Re: i think im gettin hacked
death to all OT nazi's "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" - Original Message - From: "Ben Arledge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:10 AM Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked Dude, I'm 99% sure it's a hardware issue. Call Sony's Help Desk and get them to figure out the exact problem and solution. This thread should be moved to CF-Community as it is a bit OT... Ben -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 3, 2003 8:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked seriously tho, no one has ever had this happen...WOW! ...tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping & reporting www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked ok, or ill get rocky to take a dump on it. ...tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping & reporting www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Casey C Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked When it starts to go off, kick the hell out of the machine and see if it stops. C "Tony Weeg" 04/03/2003 08:49 AM Please respond to cf-talk To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: i think im gettin hacked it's a siren. its not a sound that I have ever heard...and all processes seem/appear to be normal in my task manager. and I don't see a process that is getting any cpu time at all...im tellin you, this is freaky ...tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping & reporting www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked Get pstools from www.sysinternals.com, and see what owns the process. Chould be a outlook meeting alert ? WG -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2003 16:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked by the way... if I restart the machine...and do not login...it happens if I restart the machine...and login...it happens if I restart the machine...and login as a different user...it happens speakers on/speakers off, system down, system updoes this sound like a virus? or really can a bios or mboard or cpu problem, trigger a siren from my speakers? ...tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping & reporting www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked that's the thing, they arent, I can play music all day long on them, I can play music fine for like 1-3 minutes, and then the freakin siren.no mic either :) ...tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping & reporting www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked Tony - your speakers could be fried. Or, if you have a microphone attached, make sure it isn't near the speakers (maybe it's feed back). -mk -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked not coming from the box, the sound...that is... its coming from my speakers? ...tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping & reporting www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked Sounds like it could be a heat issue. Pop the case off and check your fans. Most motherboards will start doing this if the CPU fan stops spinning. Dan Phillips www.CFXHosting.com 1-866-239-4678 x105 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:41 AM To
Re: Scanning a Drivers License
its not encrypted - Original Message - From: "Robert Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: RE: Scanning a Drivers License Good question. I doubt that they are encrypted, though. But I could be completely wrong, as I have never worked with drivers licenses. But here is why I do not think they would be. I am originally from MD, and when I was in MD about a year and a half ago, all the clubs and liqueur stores had card readers that when they took your DL, they swiped it and it displayed your age to them, ensuring that it was not fake and was real. I would imagine this data could not be retrieved if it was encrypted and I doubt they would make the key publicly available if it was encrypted. Thanks! Robert Bailey Famous for nothing -Original Message- From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Scanning a Drivers License What about encryption? Wouldn't DL information somehow be encrypted? Regards, Dave Bosky Sr. Multimedia Web Designer Horry Telephone Cooperative, Inc. office: (843)369-8613 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Scanning a Drivers License Not sure if you could use a smartcard reader, which I think reads track 1 and 2, and I am pretty sure that most DL's are on these tracks except the CA drivers license, which is on track 3. Anyway, I have worked with magnetic card readers using Java, and it really was not a hard task to do, with Smart Cards and credit cards anyway. You can pick up the readers for about 80 dollars or so, at least you could about 8 months ago, the last time I worked with them. I would contact the vendor to make sure that it will read a drivers license, though. A good place to start would be http://www.javapos.com/index.html If you can use the smart card readers, there are a few java and C products out there that can get you on your way. Check out the Javapos site, thanks Sun!, for some really good information to start with. Thanks! Robert Bailey Famous for nothing -Original Message- From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Scanning a Drivers License > Hi All, > Has anyone here done anything with interfacing with a drivers license > scanner? > A client of mine has made request for an application that can read a drivers > license mag strip. There doesn't seem to be a lot of info available on the > web about this. http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=Ma gnetic+Stripe+Readers+programming You will need to write something in C or Java most likely WG ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Scanning a Drivers License
Just get a cherry keyboard with a mag strip reader and then you can work with that - Original Message - From: "Duane Boudreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: Scanning a Drivers License Hi All, Has anyone here done anything with interfacing with a drivers license scanner? A client of mine has made request for an application that can read a drivers license mag strip. There doesn't seem to be a lot of info available on the web about this. Duane ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
JetNexus for IIS
http://www.preactholdings.com/performance/ Anyone use this software we're looking at using this software for compression on our CF servers anyone have any thoughts and comments? "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of gum" -- Rodey Piper in They Live -- Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer Ediets.com ICQ - 417645 Aim - Bill Ediets 954-360-9022 x159 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Bulk Datasource update
thanks for the help guys :) - Original Message - From: "Pete Freitag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:58 PM Subject: RE: Bulk Datasource update Yes I have done this before. Your going to want to export the following keys: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Allaire\ColdFusion\CurrentVersion\DataSources HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC Create two reg files, and then just double click the reg file on the server you want to backup on. If your only using OLE DB datasources, then I believe you only need to backup the first key. This should work on CF5 and below. _ Pete Freitag CTO, CFDEV.COM http://www.cfdev.com/ -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Bulk Datasource update Is there anyway besides having CF5 Enterprise to save datasources into a handy package and just import them into another server? We have about 30 servers we have to mods datasources on and i told them we can just get enterprise licenses to manage that but i figured maybe we can do something with the Registery Keys. Anyone know if you can use registrykeys to export the settings and then import the new keys into the new servers registry to update all the datasources? Any help is greatly appreciated thanks! -- Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer Ediets.com ICQ - 417645 Aim - Bill Ediets 954-360-9022 x159 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Bulk Datasource update
Is there anyway besides having CF5 Enterprise to save datasources into a handy package and just import them into another server? We have about 30 servers we have to mods datasources on and i told them we can just get enterprise licenses to manage that but i figured maybe we can do something with the Registery Keys. Anyone know if you can use registrykeys to export the settings and then import the new keys into the new servers registry to update all the datasources? Any help is greatly appreciated thanks! -- Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer Ediets.com ICQ - 417645 Aim - Bill Ediets 954-360-9022 x159 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website
Open IE and right click on a link and you have save as. And then you can also copy and paste text from the screen. Stuff like that. You can take pictures and set them as your background for your display - Original Message - From: "Mike Chambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website When you talk about save as, and save as background, are you talking about the entire flash movie, or elements within the movie? In regards to the browser: http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001871.cfm mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website > Its amusing how they blame it on the evil browser though ;) > > I love html and i actually hate alot of things about flash. I hate you cant > right click and view page location, do save as, set as background. If they > could get all that into flash then i'll be fine with the passing of html > until then get that "pretty" crap outta here. > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website
www.macromedia.com/security/ - Original Message - From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:35 PM Subject: RE: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website :) no lynching here mang. I just happened to see it on cnn.com this morning, and thought id pass it along!! that's allsec. bulletins? where? ...tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping & reporting www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website http://www.macromedia.com/security That news is a week old... ;o) Sign up for the security bulletins Tony :oD Stephen (going home before Tony lynches him...) === CF-Europe http://www.cf-europe.org/ Olymia Conference Centre, London 29-30 May 2003 Keynote by Ben Forta and Tim Buntel Discount tickets before March 14th 2003 - Original Message - From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: RE: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website > http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/03/07/macromedia.warns/index.html > > just to throw a little bit of flame on the fire :) > > ...tony > > Tony Weeg > Senior Web Developer > UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > Information System Design > Navtrak, Inc. > Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping & reporting > www.navtrak.net > 410.548.2337 > > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:40 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website > > > Thought this link might be of interest to you all. > > http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001871.cfm > > Its an article on Mike Chamber's blog, by Tony Lopez, Executive Producer > of > Macromedia. > > Please note the links to the survey and feedback pages at the bottom of > the > article. These are the appropriate places to make a response. > > Regards > > Stephen > == > CF-Europe http://www.cf-europe.org/ > Olymia Conference Centre, London > 29-30 May 2003 > Keynote by Ben Forta and Tim Buntel > Discount tickets before March 14th 2003 > > - Original Message - > From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:14 PM > Subject: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website > > > > Except for the Download page that tells Opera users to "Please Use a > > Supported Browser". Baby steps, I guess. Hopefully they'll get that > > working at some point soon. > > > > The home page is working great. So, as a developer who's doing some > > remoting, some RIAs (regardless of how *that* thread pans out), I'm > > intensly curious: What *exactly* was the problem, and will it effect > > me, as I build RIAs? > > > > Willy > > > > > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/03 05:18AM >>> > > Ahh good I am quite happy now that it was finally fixed so I can see > > the > > site. > > That song on the front page is nice for all of 2 seconds and then it > > burns > > into your skull lol. > > > > But looks like its not quite as laggy as it was in ie other 2 days. > > > > Kudos MM for at least letting those people who like a good browser :) > > (Opera) to use your site. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Sean A Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:31 AM > > Subject: Re: The New Macromedia Website > > > > > > On Thursday, Mar 6, 2003, at 14:08 US/Pacific, Adrocknaphobia Jones > > wrote: > > > For the last few years I've been telling upper management that I can > > > cut > > > costs, raise quality, and employ less developers. Cold Fusion is the > > > solution for us. Am I supposed to go to them and say, I need 3 times > > > the > > > budget per project and quadruple my department size > > > > I'm not sure why you think you need to do this? No one is forcing you > > to abandon CF nor forcing you to use Flash - you can continue to sell > > your "CF is cheap" position and continue building great sites, > > quickly. > > CF is great for that. > > > > > But last month I > > > noticed a large part of this community actively learning .NET. > > > > I'd hope large parts of this community would be constantly learning > > about technology. That's what makes everyone a better programmer. > > That's why people take courses, for example. > > > > > My underlying issue is that Macromedia is very fickle. I can't tell > > you > > > where they are going to be in a year. Which mean I don't know where > > I, > > > a > > > MM developer will be in a year either. > > > > Well, I don't think anyone can realisti
Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website
Yes if you could copy and paste from within flash, open links in new windows and do everything you could with HTML in standard i would be happy with flash. it is extremly annoying and i would hope flash EVENTUALLY lets you do the same type things you can with html if it is the thing MM wants to become the standard it has to allow to do the things people have been doing for 10 years. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website Yes, but the controls that HTML has all adhere to the interface standards of the host OS. This is in contrast to Flash widgets that look and feel differently not only within Flash in general, but in just about every Flash UI environment you go to. And the scrollwheel not working is just another example of how Flash RIA's are going to confuse and frustrate the users because they don't behave "right". I love the Flash RIA concept. I intend to use it in some situations. But I feel that it has a long, long way to go before it meets the useability needs of a general audience. It's almost like there needs to be a way to call OS controls within Flash, but then we're sort of getting into Java RIA territory. -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:43 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website > > > HTML hardly has any controls, compared to c/s environments such > as VC++, VB, or Java. > > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Wheatley) > Date: Friday, March 7, 2003 9:26 am > Subject: Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website > > > I was reading Dave Watts post about HTML sucking earlier and i am > > reallycurious dave why do you think it sucks. Sure it has a few > > weak points but > > all the nice pretty flash is just pretty and its > > really a pain in the ass how they implemented it on macromedia. I > > use the > > site everyday i dont need pretty i need it to work and html does that > > nicely. Of course html is annoying because its stateless yadda yadda. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Stephen Moretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:40 AM > > Subject: Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website > > > > > > Thought this link might be of interest to you all. > > > > http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001871.cfm > > > > Its an article on Mike Chamber's blog, by Tony Lopez, Executive > > Producer of > > Macromedia. > > > > Please note the links to the survey and feedback pages at the > > bottom of the > > article. These are the appropriate places to make a response. > > > > Regards > > > > Stephen > > == > > CF-Europe http://www.cf-europe.org/ > > Olymia Conference Centre, London > > 29-30 May 2003 > > Keynote by Ben Forta and Tim Buntel > > Discount tickets before March 14th 2003 > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:14 PM > > Subject: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website > > > > > > > Except for the Download page that tells Opera users to "Please > > Use a > > > Supported Browser". Baby steps, I guess. Hopefully they'll get > > that> working at some point soon. > > > > > > The home page is working great. So, as a developer who's doing some > > > remoting, some RIAs (regardless of how *that* thread pans out), I'm > > > intensly curious: What *exactly* was the problem, and will it > > effect> me, as I build RIAs? > > > > > > Willy > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/03 05:18AM >>> > > > Ahh good I am quite happy now that it was finally fixed so I can see > > > the > > > site. > > > That song on the front page is nice for all of 2 seconds and > > then it > > > burns > > > into your skull lol. > > > > > > But looks like its not quite as laggy as it was in ie other 2 days. > > > > > > Kudos MM for at least letting those people who like a good > > browser :) > > > (Opera) to use your si
Re: The New Macromedia Website
Yes BETA MAX rocked! - Original Message - From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: RE: The New Macromedia Website > > However, to put things bluntly, HTML sucks. > > Html might suck.. but it has driven internet..to where > it is today. Sure. That doesn't change the fact that it really, really sucks as an application interface. And who's to say that the internet wouldn't be in a better place today had things turned out differently? I've got a VHS VCR at home. Beta VCRs were much better (I used to have one). But I have a VHS because, well, that's the standard. That doesn't make it suck any less. > CFMX was re-written in Java as J2EE application, giving > developers the leverage to implement scalable applications... > and be productive(ROI). MM did a really good job...but > released too soon. I know plenty of people running CFMX production servers right now. They might disagree with your conclusion about releasing too soon. Maybe if you want to use ODBC to talk to your AS400 DB2, but that's a pretty small segment of users I suspect. > As for Flash and RIA.. its just another hype... > If anything is going to replace.. html...that will probably > be an open source technique..approved my W3C etc.. and when > all browser vendors agree to implement the alternative(RIA) > to "html"... that might be reality... If all browsers today support Flash, why would we need to wait for browser vendors to implement some other, as-yet-nonexistent standard? (I know SVG exists, I'm talking about nonexistent implementations.) Flash isn't perfect, but it's got a huge headstart over any competitors in that space. > until then.. "HTML" will rock.. JUST FACT! :) The fact is, we'll all continue using HTML for a while. I take issue with your argument that it'll "rock". It'll continue to suck for application interfaces. But someday, we'll all look back and shake our heads in disbelief that we actually used to write those things. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website
haha its probably just a trick to get people to get the latest player so they can view the new MM site :) j/k - Original Message - From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:29 AM Subject: RE: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/03/07/macromedia.warns/index.html just to throw a little bit of flame on the fire :) ...tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping & reporting www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website Thought this link might be of interest to you all. http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001871.cfm Its an article on Mike Chamber's blog, by Tony Lopez, Executive Producer of Macromedia. Please note the links to the survey and feedback pages at the bottom of the article. These are the appropriate places to make a response. Regards Stephen == CF-Europe http://www.cf-europe.org/ Olymia Conference Centre, London 29-30 May 2003 Keynote by Ben Forta and Tim Buntel Discount tickets before March 14th 2003 - Original Message - From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:14 PM Subject: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website > Except for the Download page that tells Opera users to "Please Use a > Supported Browser". Baby steps, I guess. Hopefully they'll get that > working at some point soon. > > The home page is working great. So, as a developer who's doing some > remoting, some RIAs (regardless of how *that* thread pans out), I'm > intensly curious: What *exactly* was the problem, and will it effect > me, as I build RIAs? > > Willy > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/03 05:18AM >>> > Ahh good I am quite happy now that it was finally fixed so I can see > the > site. > That song on the front page is nice for all of 2 seconds and then it > burns > into your skull lol. > > But looks like its not quite as laggy as it was in ie other 2 days. > > Kudos MM for at least letting those people who like a good browser :) > (Opera) to use your site. > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Sean A Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:31 AM > Subject: Re: The New Macromedia Website > > > On Thursday, Mar 6, 2003, at 14:08 US/Pacific, Adrocknaphobia Jones > wrote: > > For the last few years I've been telling upper management that I can > > cut > > costs, raise quality, and employ less developers. Cold Fusion is the > > solution for us. Am I supposed to go to them and say, I need 3 times > > the > > budget per project and quadruple my department size > > I'm not sure why you think you need to do this? No one is forcing you > to abandon CF nor forcing you to use Flash - you can continue to sell > your "CF is cheap" position and continue building great sites, > quickly. > CF is great for that. > > > But last month I > > noticed a large part of this community actively learning .NET. > > I'd hope large parts of this community would be constantly learning > about technology. That's what makes everyone a better programmer. > That's why people take courses, for example. > > > My underlying issue is that Macromedia is very fickle. I can't tell > you > > where they are going to be in a year. Which mean I don't know where > I, > > a > > MM developer will be in a year either. > > Well, I don't think anyone can realistically argue the new site hasn't > been fully sign-posted. Anyone who is surprised by our RIA deployment > has, frankly, been living under a stone :) > > And it is purely evolution. It's CF on the back end, several of the > apps are pure CF. Nothing shocking there. We have just four RIAs on > the > new site - there are five pure CF applications. People have been using > Flash UIs on CF apps for quite some time, certainly prior to the MX > launches. > > Macromedia has been roundly criticized for not using our own > technology > and for being a few releases behind the leading edge. Now we're up to > date. You can't really criticize us for pushing the envelope... > > Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture > Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. > tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 > aim/iChat: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com > An Architect's View -- http://www.macromedia.com/go/arch_blog > > Announcing Macromedia DevNet Subscriptions > Maximize your power with our new premium software subscription > Find out more: http://www.macromedia.com/go/devnetsubs > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscr
Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website
I was reading Dave Watts post about HTML sucking earlier and i am really curious dave why do you think it sucks. Sure it has a few weak points but all the nice pretty flash is just pretty and its really a pain in the ass how they implemented it on macromedia. I use the site everyday i dont need pretty i need it to work and html does that nicely. Of course html is annoying because its stateless yadda yadda. - Original Message - From: "Stephen Moretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website Thought this link might be of interest to you all. http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001871.cfm Its an article on Mike Chamber's blog, by Tony Lopez, Executive Producer of Macromedia. Please note the links to the survey and feedback pages at the bottom of the article. These are the appropriate places to make a response. Regards Stephen == CF-Europe http://www.cf-europe.org/ Olymia Conference Centre, London 29-30 May 2003 Keynote by Ben Forta and Tim Buntel Discount tickets before March 14th 2003 - Original Message - From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:14 PM Subject: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website > Except for the Download page that tells Opera users to "Please Use a > Supported Browser". Baby steps, I guess. Hopefully they'll get that > working at some point soon. > > The home page is working great. So, as a developer who's doing some > remoting, some RIAs (regardless of how *that* thread pans out), I'm > intensly curious: What *exactly* was the problem, and will it effect > me, as I build RIAs? > > Willy > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/03 05:18AM >>> > Ahh good I am quite happy now that it was finally fixed so I can see > the > site. > That song on the front page is nice for all of 2 seconds and then it > burns > into your skull lol. > > But looks like its not quite as laggy as it was in ie other 2 days. > > Kudos MM for at least letting those people who like a good browser :) > (Opera) to use your site. > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Sean A Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:31 AM > Subject: Re: The New Macromedia Website > > > On Thursday, Mar 6, 2003, at 14:08 US/Pacific, Adrocknaphobia Jones > wrote: > > For the last few years I've been telling upper management that I can > > cut > > costs, raise quality, and employ less developers. Cold Fusion is the > > solution for us. Am I supposed to go to them and say, I need 3 times > > the > > budget per project and quadruple my department size > > I'm not sure why you think you need to do this? No one is forcing you > to abandon CF nor forcing you to use Flash - you can continue to sell > your "CF is cheap" position and continue building great sites, > quickly. > CF is great for that. > > > But last month I > > noticed a large part of this community actively learning .NET. > > I'd hope large parts of this community would be constantly learning > about technology. That's what makes everyone a better programmer. > That's why people take courses, for example. > > > My underlying issue is that Macromedia is very fickle. I can't tell > you > > where they are going to be in a year. Which mean I don't know where > I, > > a > > MM developer will be in a year either. > > Well, I don't think anyone can realistically argue the new site hasn't > been fully sign-posted. Anyone who is surprised by our RIA deployment > has, frankly, been living under a stone :) > > And it is purely evolution. It's CF on the back end, several of the > apps are pure CF. Nothing shocking there. We have just four RIAs on > the > new site - there are five pure CF applications. People have been using > Flash UIs on CF apps for quite some time, certainly prior to the MX > launches. > > Macromedia has been roundly criticized for not using our own > technology > and for being a few releases behind the leading edge. Now we're up to > date. You can't really criticize us for pushing the envelope... > > Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture > Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. > tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 > aim/iChat: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com > An Architect's View -- http://www.macromedia.com/go/arch_blog > > Announcing Macromedia DevNet Subscriptions > Maximize your power with our new premium software subscription > Find out more: http://www.macromedia.com/go/devnetsubs > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provi
Re: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website
Its amusing how they blame it on the evil browser though ;) I love html and i actually hate alot of things about flash. I hate you cant right click and view page location, do save as, set as background. If they could get all that into flash then i'll be fine with the passing of html until then get that "pretty" crap outta here. - Original Message - From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website Except for the Download page that tells Opera users to "Please Use a Supported Browser". Baby steps, I guess. Hopefully they'll get that working at some point soon. The home page is working great. So, as a developer who's doing some remoting, some RIAs (regardless of how *that* thread pans out), I'm intensly curious: What *exactly* was the problem, and will it effect me, as I build RIAs? Willy >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/03 05:18AM >>> Ahh good I am quite happy now that it was finally fixed so I can see the site. That song on the front page is nice for all of 2 seconds and then it burns into your skull lol. But looks like its not quite as laggy as it was in ie other 2 days. Kudos MM for at least letting those people who like a good browser :) (Opera) to use your site. - Original Message - From: "Sean A Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:31 AM Subject: Re: The New Macromedia Website On Thursday, Mar 6, 2003, at 14:08 US/Pacific, Adrocknaphobia Jones wrote: > For the last few years I've been telling upper management that I can > cut > costs, raise quality, and employ less developers. Cold Fusion is the > solution for us. Am I supposed to go to them and say, I need 3 times > the > budget per project and quadruple my department size I'm not sure why you think you need to do this? No one is forcing you to abandon CF nor forcing you to use Flash - you can continue to sell your "CF is cheap" position and continue building great sites, quickly. CF is great for that. > But last month I > noticed a large part of this community actively learning .NET. I'd hope large parts of this community would be constantly learning about technology. That's what makes everyone a better programmer. That's why people take courses, for example. > My underlying issue is that Macromedia is very fickle. I can't tell you > where they are going to be in a year. Which mean I don't know where I, > a > MM developer will be in a year either. Well, I don't think anyone can realistically argue the new site hasn't been fully sign-posted. Anyone who is surprised by our RIA deployment has, frankly, been living under a stone :) And it is purely evolution. It's CF on the back end, several of the apps are pure CF. Nothing shocking there. We have just four RIAs on the new site - there are five pure CF applications. People have been using Flash UIs on CF apps for quite some time, certainly prior to the MX launches. Macromedia has been roundly criticized for not using our own technology and for being a few releases behind the leading edge. Now we're up to date. You can't really criticize us for pushing the envelope... Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 aim/iChat: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com An Architect's View -- http://www.macromedia.com/go/arch_blog Announcing Macromedia DevNet Subscriptions Maximize your power with our new premium software subscription Find out more: http://www.macromedia.com/go/devnetsubs ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website
Ahh good I am quite happy now that it was finally fixed so I can see the site. That song on the front page is nice for all of 2 seconds and then it burns into your skull lol. But looks like its not quite as laggy as it was in ie other 2 days. Kudos MM for at least letting those people who like a good browser :) (Opera) to use your site. - Original Message - From: "Sean A Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:31 AM Subject: Re: The New Macromedia Website On Thursday, Mar 6, 2003, at 14:08 US/Pacific, Adrocknaphobia Jones wrote: > For the last few years I've been telling upper management that I can > cut > costs, raise quality, and employ less developers. Cold Fusion is the > solution for us. Am I supposed to go to them and say, I need 3 times > the > budget per project and quadruple my department size I'm not sure why you think you need to do this? No one is forcing you to abandon CF nor forcing you to use Flash - you can continue to sell your "CF is cheap" position and continue building great sites, quickly. CF is great for that. > But last month I > noticed a large part of this community actively learning .NET. I'd hope large parts of this community would be constantly learning about technology. That's what makes everyone a better programmer. That's why people take courses, for example. > My underlying issue is that Macromedia is very fickle. I can't tell you > where they are going to be in a year. Which mean I don't know where I, > a > MM developer will be in a year either. Well, I don't think anyone can realistically argue the new site hasn't been fully sign-posted. Anyone who is surprised by our RIA deployment has, frankly, been living under a stone :) And it is purely evolution. It's CF on the back end, several of the apps are pure CF. Nothing shocking there. We have just four RIAs on the new site - there are five pure CF applications. People have been using Flash UIs on CF apps for quite some time, certainly prior to the MX launches. Macromedia has been roundly criticized for not using our own technology and for being a few releases behind the leading edge. Now we're up to date. You can't really criticize us for pushing the envelope... Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 aim/iChat: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com An Architect's View -- http://www.macromedia.com/go/arch_blog Announcing Macromedia DevNet Subscriptions Maximize your power with our new premium software subscription Find out more: http://www.macromedia.com/go/devnetsubs ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT Domain registration
Nah i hate those hard core crazy anti-spammers feed them C4 for all i care. And i've used registerfly for almost a year and a half now with 0 dns server problems. I am 100% happy with them they are awesome. And i'm normally very picky. And lets not get into SPEWS and the other crap those boneheads do :) I would try godaddy but i dont want to pay 20 to use their dns servers i have my own but its nicer to not really have to worry about them too much. cheers - Original Message - From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:58 AM Subject: Re: OT Domain registration The problem with GoDaddy is that they charge $20. per year extra to use their name servers. I do not need domain names masked. I have several clients with Registerfly, and the problem with them is that every 90 days or so, their DNS servers get corrupted (maybe from Phreakers) and mission critical sites are typically offline and without mail until They can get them fixed up and propagated again. They are the ones asking me to search out a more reliable registrar. Network Solutions are in themselves spammers, and also sell their address lists to other spammers. I use Register.com myself for my own domains, but these clients do not wish to pay their prices although I consider them as the easiest to use and most reliable of all. I do not want to run my own name servers, because they are all on the same network, and DNS is much more reliable with dispersed name servers. I do use DNS caching, however, As for filling in fake information for the WHOIS, There are rules currently in effect that if you cannot be reliably contacted through WHOIS, then upon complaint, your registration can be revoked. There is a rising groundswell of anti-spammer activists that are searching out and filing complaints with ICANN. More info can be found at http://www.dshield.org. As for spam harvested from WHOIS databases, I use a filtering server running Postfix on Linux that effectively blocks all that spam. Anyone with a domain name can subscribe to this filtering server which then sends your email on to you after filtering for open proxy, open relay, spamcop.bl, and virus scanning. It even blocks the Nigerian scam mail. This way you are assured of getting clean email to your server, and there is no delay in delivery. File attachments that are not virus infected are permitted. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: Re: OT Domain registration | thats a great reason TO use them i hate putting real info into a domain to | be harvested or given out its nobodies business anyway :). | | But i still like registerfly.com better | | - Original Message - | From: "Hugo Ahlenius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:57 AM | Subject: RE: OT Domain registration | | | With GoDaddy -- a reason not to use them: | | They offer a service with the domain registration where the owner is not | presented in any whois, which are being used by shady domains. | | | | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT Domain registration
thats a great reason TO use them i hate putting real info into a domain to be harvested or given out its nobodies business anyway :). But i still like registerfly.com better - Original Message - From: "Hugo Ahlenius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:57 AM Subject: RE: OT Domain registration With GoDaddy -- a reason not to use them: They offer a service with the domain registration where the owner is not presented in any whois, which are being used by shady domains. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT Domain registration
www.registerfly.com very happy with them cheap price, fast dns updates good support - Original Message - From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 8:32 AM Subject: Re: OT Domain registration Does anyone have a recommendation for a domain registrar, other than Network Solutions any verisign affiliate or register.com? I need one that provides free DNS as well. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Yes that would be a dream come true lol. Yea m$ does mix up their site a bit you cant do one search to find everything they dont put all the technet articles into the search and you have to sometimes bounce to different parts of the site. Their site reminds me of MANY sites crammed into 1 lol - Original Message - From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! Tell me about it... it sure would be nice on all of us if all the browsers would get together and use a single standard but that isn't the case (and probably wont ever be the case :) It just would be nice if it was :) Site runs fine for me too, the only complaint I have it that I was actually getting used to finding things on the site and now I have to start all over... but hey, at least it's better then trying to find something on Microsofts web site ;) Pablo - Original Message - From: "Bruce Sorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! > You know that MM is not the only site that does not work well with Opera. > Wells Fargo Bank's On-Line banking does not work well either. There are a > few others that do not work with Opera, so MM is not the only one out there > that is not checking for that browser. Why not apply yourself to the QA > department if Opera compatibility is such an issue? > Personally I do not have any problems loading the new site in IE. I am > viewing it on a Dell Inspiron, 1.5 GHZ Pentium 4 processor with a half a gig > of RAM, and it is running just fine. Maybe Opera needs to get on board and > make their browser work with other companies sites? > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:43 AM > Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! > > > > That is the biggest load of BS i've heard all day. Its a website! > > Test the crap before you upload it, if you dont have a QA deptment get > one. > > If you do have one fire the people because they obviously don't know what > > they are doing. > > You can't release a site that doesn't even let you see the front page with > a > > browser like Opera. > > > > I run it on IE and its slow as anything. Its like macromedia never stops > to > > think before it releases things lol. > > > > Hopefully they fix the opera thing quickly. I mean its only a browser with > > 10%, and growing, of the market. > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM > > Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! > > > > > > The new macromedia.com is certainly a "next generation" site, and > > unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention > > below. I hope people can take the time to let us know when they find > > things like this by going to the following URL: > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html > > > > I remember when I first used OS X (also a complete re-write and "next > > generation" project) it was VERY rough at first, and had issue ranging > > from performance to compatibility. Over time, however, it has really > > been refined into an excellent and extremely advanced OS. To some > > extent, these types of issues are the price you pay when you take big > > steps forward. Someone has to be pushing the envelope, though, and I'm > > glad it's Macromedia. > > > > Christian > > > > On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Jillian Carroll wrote: > > > > > I'm surprised MM would launch this site given: > > > > > > - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to > > > be watching > > > - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has > > > matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc. > > > > > > For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers: > > > > > > - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended) > > > - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen) > > > - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links > > > that are visible, aren't functional) > > > >
Re: New MM.com
Oh I'm being far from obtuse my friend. And I've already said on the feedback form their site is broken ;) And where is the anger in that post? So who's obtuse now lol - Original Message - From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: RE: New MM.com jeez, someones a little agro. Agreed it a huge step and there are issues but it is a massive step in web design. Vent your anger at the wishform/feedback and help instead of being obtuse. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 17:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New MM.com Nah its just another example of macromedia. :) Kinda makes me laugh in a way - Original Message - From: "Mike Chambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: Re: New MM.com One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the market (does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the Macromedia site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: Re: New MM.com > AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like horses*it > to me ;) > The stupid flash just loops loading over and over. > I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then i'm a > little worried. > If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser market > well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore > unfortunately until they fix the problem. > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
LOL i wouldnt take a pay cut to work for a company like MM :) Maybe MM needs to follow w3c standards. And i know other sites are not supported but i bring it upto them whenever i find it. When CNN.com launched a new look me and about 50 others emailed them about the problems with THEIR site NOT our browser :) and cnn had it fixed in 2 days. You know that MM is not the only site that does not work well with Opera. Wells Fargo Bank's On-Line banking does not work well either. There are a few others that do not work with Opera, so MM is not the only one out there that is not checking for that browser. Why not apply yourself to the QA department if Opera compatibility is such an issue? Personally I do not have any problems loading the new site in IE. I am viewing it on a Dell Inspiron, 1.5 GHZ Pentium 4 processor with a half a gig of RAM, and it is running just fine. Maybe Opera needs to get on board and make their browser work with other companies sites? - Original Message - From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! > That is the biggest load of BS i've heard all day. Its a website! > Test the crap before you upload it, if you dont have a QA deptment get one. > If you do have one fire the people because they obviously don't know what > they are doing. > You can't release a site that doesn't even let you see the front page with a > browser like Opera. > > I run it on IE and its slow as anything. Its like macromedia never stops to > think before it releases things lol. > > Hopefully they fix the opera thing quickly. I mean its only a browser with > 10%, and growing, of the market. > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! > > > The new macromedia.com is certainly a "next generation" site, and > unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention > below. I hope people can take the time to let us know when they find > things like this by going to the following URL: > > http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html > > I remember when I first used OS X (also a complete re-write and "next > generation" project) it was VERY rough at first, and had issue ranging > from performance to compatibility. Over time, however, it has really > been refined into an excellent and extremely advanced OS. To some > extent, these types of issues are the price you pay when you take big > steps forward. Someone has to be pushing the envelope, though, and I'm > glad it's Macromedia. > > Christian > > On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Jillian Carroll wrote: > > > I'm surprised MM would launch this site given: > > > > - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to > > be watching > > - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has > > matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc. > > > > For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers: > > > > - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended) > > - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen) > > - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links > > that are visible, aren't functional) > > > > - Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser) > > > > - IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly) > > > > It's unfortunate. > > > > -- > > Jillian > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM > >> To: CF-Talk > >> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! > >> > >> > >> I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to > >> look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick), > >> but I cant see how you could have failed to find the > >> exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11 > >> To: CF-Talk > >> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! > >> > >> > >> Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash > >> everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards... > >> > >>
Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Yea but it wasnt googles man page ;) - Original Message - From: "Benoit Hediard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! > If it's a beta version, why is it public then? Sometimes when you are trying to experiment new things, you don't have any choices than to experiment "live". Look at Google News (http://news.google.com/), it has been launch to the public several months ago (nearly a year) and it is still Google News "Beta". Benoit Hediard www.benorama.com > -Message d'origine- > De : Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : mercredi 5 mars 2003 17:21 > À : CF-Talk > Objet : RE: New Macromedia.com launched! > > > If it's a beta version, why is it public then? > > I mean, I wouldn't think that it's a good practice to put your beta's > directly out to the public. > > Just my 2 cents. > > Scott > > -Original Message- > From: Benoit Hediard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:00 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! > > > Come on guys... it is a Beta version. > Is there only "never happy" people on this list? > > > Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere... > > it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards... > > I disagree about the "bad design" and "confusing things" arguments (... > agree about the "slow" one). > The organisation of the site seems to be much clear than the previous > one. > > The home page is not intended to ColdFusion Developers... but any kind > of > audience, that's why it requires a "flashy" brand/corporate look&feel. > If you don't like it, just go directly to > http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/, you don't have to go > through it. > (there was already a big marketing flash movie in the previous home > page) > > > They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a > > pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map > > Not very hard... > Select "Product > ColdFusion MX" on the home page, and then you'll get a > direct access to the exchange. > (and it will remember this setting) > > > That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't make > > me feel the site is any more responsive... > > > > Hopefully they revise this... > > > > Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of > > files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen block > > to select show newest... a change from how it historically has > worked... > > Once you have selected "Newest", it will also remember this settings for > your next visit (no changes to your historical habits). > > Come on guys, move forward... > > > Benoit Hediard > www.benorama.com > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New MM.com
Nah its just another example of macromedia. :) Kinda makes me laugh in a way - Original Message - From: "Mike Chambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: Re: New MM.com One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the market (does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the Macromedia site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: Re: New MM.com > AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like horses*it > to me ;) > The stupid flash just loops loading over and over. > I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then i'm a > little worried. > If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser market > well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore > unfortunately until they fix the problem. > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
And nothing against you Christian i'm sure if it was upto you they would "test" these things first so you didn't have to listen to us complain :) - Original Message - From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! The new macromedia.com is certainly a "next generation" site, and unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention below. I hope people can take the time to let us know when they find things like this by going to the following URL: http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html I remember when I first used OS X (also a complete re-write and "next generation" project) it was VERY rough at first, and had issue ranging from performance to compatibility. Over time, however, it has really been refined into an excellent and extremely advanced OS. To some extent, these types of issues are the price you pay when you take big steps forward. Someone has to be pushing the envelope, though, and I'm glad it's Macromedia. Christian On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Jillian Carroll wrote: > I'm surprised MM would launch this site given: > > - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to > be watching > - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has > matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc. > > For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers: > > - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended) > - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen) > - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links > that are visible, aren't functional) > > - Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser) > > - IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly) > > It's unfortunate. > > -- > Jillian > >> -Original Message- >> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! >> >> >> I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to >> look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick), >> but I cant see how you could have failed to find the >> exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange >> >> -Original Message- >> From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11 >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! >> >> >> Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash >> everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards... >> >> They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite >> a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the >> site map >> >> That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't >> make me feel the site is any more responsive... >> >> Hopefully they revise this... >> >> Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of >> files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen >> block to select show newest... a change from how it >> historically has worked... >> >> But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :) >> >> -p >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 - >> >>> I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button >> problem >>> which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much >>> cleaner. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59 >>> To: CF-Talk >>> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! >>> >>> >>> Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's >> supposed to >>> :) >>> >>> Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it >> over a modem >>> though! >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45 >>> To: CF-Talk >>> Subject: New Macromedia.com launched! >>> >>> Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :) >>> >>> The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks >> excellent (if a >>> little slow in places). >>> >>> Well done MM. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
That is the biggest load of BS i've heard all day. Its a website! Test the crap before you upload it, if you dont have a QA deptment get one. If you do have one fire the people because they obviously don't know what they are doing. You can't release a site that doesn't even let you see the front page with a browser like Opera. I run it on IE and its slow as anything. Its like macromedia never stops to think before it releases things lol. Hopefully they fix the opera thing quickly. I mean its only a browser with 10%, and growing, of the market. - Original Message - From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! The new macromedia.com is certainly a "next generation" site, and unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention below. I hope people can take the time to let us know when they find things like this by going to the following URL: http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html I remember when I first used OS X (also a complete re-write and "next generation" project) it was VERY rough at first, and had issue ranging from performance to compatibility. Over time, however, it has really been refined into an excellent and extremely advanced OS. To some extent, these types of issues are the price you pay when you take big steps forward. Someone has to be pushing the envelope, though, and I'm glad it's Macromedia. Christian On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Jillian Carroll wrote: > I'm surprised MM would launch this site given: > > - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to > be watching > - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has > matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc. > > For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers: > > - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended) > - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen) > - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links > that are visible, aren't functional) > > - Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser) > > - IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly) > > It's unfortunate. > > -- > Jillian > >> -Original Message- >> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! >> >> >> I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to >> look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick), >> but I cant see how you could have failed to find the >> exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange >> >> -Original Message- >> From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11 >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! >> >> >> Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash >> everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards... >> >> They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite >> a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the >> site map >> >> That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't >> make me feel the site is any more responsive... >> >> Hopefully they revise this... >> >> Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of >> files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen >> block to select show newest... a change from how it >> historically has worked... >> >> But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :) >> >> -p >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 - >> >>> I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button >> problem >>> which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much >>> cleaner. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59 >>> To: CF-Talk >>> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! >>> >>> >>> Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's >> supposed to >>> :) >>> >>> Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it >> over a modem >>> though! >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45 >>> To: CF-Talk >>> Subject: New Macromedia.com launched! >>> >>> Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :) >>> >>> The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks >> excellent (if a >>> little slow in places). >>> >>> Well done MM. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusi
Re: New MM.com
yea i'm opera 7.01 - Original Message - From: "Willy Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Re: New MM.com Yeah, not to add fuel to the fire, but I can't see it at all in Opera 7. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 08:00AM >>> AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like horses*it to me ;) The stupid flash just loops loading over and over. I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then i'm a little worried. If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser market well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore unfortunately until they fix the problem. -- Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer Ediets.com ICQ - 417645 Aim - Bill Ediets 954-360-9022 x159 - Original Message - From: "Benoit Hediard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: RE: New MM.com Congratulations to Sean and all the team. The new site is great. I like very much the new design and the way the site and the information are organized. One little simple detail that I enjoy, it remembers your latest selection in the home page. For example, if you have choosen "Products > ColdFusion MX" and "Solutions > Developers", the next time you come, the home page will have them already selected (I suppose this is based on new Shared Objects capabilities). Very simple but efficient personalization... Ok, it is a little bit slow on my PIII 500... but I'm sure it will get better. As for the back/forward buttons in Flash, it seems to be pretty well handled by the 4 RIAs (home, exchange, membership and download). For the moment, it seems to be stable... I haven't seen any error pages... ColdFusionMX+FlashMX unleashed upon the masses! Bravo! Benoit Hediard www.benorama.com > -Message d'origine- > De : Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > EnvoyT : mercredi 5 mars 2003 14:02 > + : CF-Talk > Objet : Re: New MM.com > > > Paul Hastings wrote: > > i come from a rather bandwidth poor part of the world & was prepared for > > p*ss-poor performance. i was surprised at how well bandwidth > was used, even > > the slower portions didn't seem that slow. > > Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. I > don't know if there is some traffic shaping that allows only a limited > number of connections/limited speed or if Flash gets all the components > sequentially or something, but there are very few sites that take 4 > seconds to load (yes, I am spoiled). CPU and the connection never max > out on my end. > As a result, I switched to the HTML version. > > Jochem > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New MM.com
AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like horses*it to me ;) The stupid flash just loops loading over and over. I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then i'm a little worried. If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser market well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore unfortunately until they fix the problem. -- Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer Ediets.com ICQ - 417645 Aim - Bill Ediets 954-360-9022 x159 - Original Message - From: "Benoit Hediard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: RE: New MM.com Congratulations to Sean and all the team. The new site is great. I like very much the new design and the way the site and the information are organized. One little simple detail that I enjoy, it remembers your latest selection in the home page. For example, if you have choosen "Products > ColdFusion MX" and "Solutions > Developers", the next time you come, the home page will have them already selected (I suppose this is based on new Shared Objects capabilities). Very simple but efficient personalization... Ok, it is a little bit slow on my PIII 500... but I'm sure it will get better. As for the back/forward buttons in Flash, it seems to be pretty well handled by the 4 RIAs (home, exchange, membership and download). For the moment, it seems to be stable... I haven't seen any error pages... ColdFusionMX+FlashMX unleashed upon the masses! Bravo! Benoit Hediard www.benorama.com > -Message d'origine- > De : Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : mercredi 5 mars 2003 14:02 > À : CF-Talk > Objet : Re: New MM.com > > > Paul Hastings wrote: > > i come from a rather bandwidth poor part of the world & was prepared for > > p*ss-poor performance. i was surprised at how well bandwidth > was used, even > > the slower portions didn't seem that slow. > > Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. I > don't know if there is some traffic shaping that allows only a limited > number of connections/limited speed or if Flash gets all the components > sequentially or something, but there are very few sites that take 4 > seconds to load (yes, I am spoiled). CPU and the connection never max > out on my end. > As a result, I switched to the HTML version. > > Jochem > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: PHP versus CF Development Speed?
php is slow and evil compared to CF! hehe i found that php fusebox3 was almost as fast as writing fb3 cf code - Original Message - From: "Alexander Sherwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:30 PM Subject: Re: PHP versus CF Development Speed? At 02:28 PM 2/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Anyone have any good case studies or articles explaining development time >coparisons between CF and PHP? I've statistics stating ASP takes 60% more >dev time than CF. Anyone have any numbers comparing CF to PHP? At least 60%, I would imagine! >***Sterling Financial Investment Group, Inc. (SFIG) is a member >ofNASD/MSRB/NFA/SIPC. Email transmissions may be monitored. SFIG >cannotaccept orders to buy or sell via email. Please visit >www.mysterling.com formore information.*** > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: FBX3 AND CFMX
Umm fusebox will cure you cold, you didnt get the Memo? - Original Message - From: "John Quarto-vonTivadar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: FBX3 AND CFMX > Bastardized fusebox is simply that -- bastardized fusebox. It's sort of > saying the application is "sort of MVC" or that the database is "sort of > backed up" -- it is or it isn't. well that's like CFC being "sort of" OO, now isn't it? :) > thus there's no way to maintain and extend a single core. > Instead, each developer does their own thing. > actually in Fusebox 4 you will be able to extend the core quite easily using "plugins". And you will also pick your choice of cores so that the end results in CF or PHP or ASP etc. > That said, I'll reemphasize that it's easier to big a decent methodology of > the shelf and get the project done instead of trying to build your own. FB3 > is a great contribution to CF for that reason alone. > One of the key points to Fusebox that was overlooked in the last few days -- and I was surprised at this since Andrew was a great example of the point -- is that Fusebox doesn't try to be "better" than some framework that an individual developer like him could do. It's neither better nor worse, just an agreed upon way of doing things. In fact, for his projects his own framework is likely better since he's so familiar with it (which also explains why there isn't a pressing need for him to learn Fusebox). But the missed point is that his skillset, as tied to his own framework, is highly limiting his opportunities to work with other people, because now they have a learning curve of learning "his" framework, or he theirs. Now, again, if you run your own shop and have a handful of people that work for you, then you might not need this at all. Perfect! If that is all you want to do, then you're absolutely correct that that is all you need. Or if you're a larger shop that has a vested interest in a "secret" methodology -- much like the people of Florence at one time gave Michaelangelo's David a FigLeaf, which only serves to create interest in what is covered up-- then any open publically known framework, Fusebox or otherwise, has to be spun a certain way since the heart of the business centers on one's "secret sauce". Being the owner of several patented processes, I can confirm that is just as legitimate a business concern as any other. But in much larger organizations -- some recent "convertees" to Fusebox among our own clients include Dell Computers, UPS, the Perth Mint, and the the Canadian government's Natural Resources division -- the payoff of Fusebox is tremendous -- the organization gets a known standard framework (notice I'm not saying a known "standard", but a known "standard framework"). When they hire someone who knows Fusebox then they know they are getting someone who does pretty darn close to what they already do -- so that new hire will be able to get up to speed much quicker. And for developers, learning Fusebox is a highly portable investment -- not only can they use it for their "own" projects but they can work on other outside projects without learning something totally new nor have to deliver projects done in a 'proprietary' framework that the client has no idea how to maintain and they can leverage the time they've spent investing in Fusebox for multiple purposes. Not a bad idea during a recession. Finally to the end-customer, Fusebox also has advantages: they aren't tied to maintaining their code only with the people who wrote it. They spend less money doing the maintenance because it's based on some publically known framework. They spend less money getting projects developed because they can compare bids as apples-to-apples when it's based on a common framework especially when combined with Persuasive Architecture. The idea is less that of a religion -- despite the sometimes over-zelaous claims of some Fusebox adherents that it will cure everything including the common cold -- and more of an "agreement to agree", a "lingua franca" if you will. You know, English is not the perfect language -- it spells poorly relative to its pronounciation (linguists call that "poor phonography" which sounds too close to "see teens get it on with farm animals" to ever be used in the mainstream, ha ha). On the other hand, Hungarian, which has good phonography, is a very nice language and if I were a native Hungarian speaker I'd probably love to speak it with my parents and with friends. Yet, if I wanted to get along in the world, esp today's world of business and technology, I would be crazy not to learn English. Does that make English "better"? Depends on the metric. Do people have their own ways to speaking English? Yes, just ask any Australian or fan of "The Sopranos." Is there any quasi-central body for promoting a "standard English" . Kinda -- but in the end people pretty much talk any way they like. So it is wit
Re: Clustered Session Vars
But you should really switch to client vars stored in a db if you can help it at all you'll solve alot of your problems for clustercats. Except in the situations where you have too much data for a client var to handle but most things you should be ok. - Original Message - From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:05 PM Subject: RE: Clustered Session Vars > Well, we have a cluster of 3 servers, all of which are being > looked after by ClusterCats. The cfapplication tags in the > Application.cfm on each server has the setdomaincookies > variable set to "yes", but session vars do not appear to be > working across the cluster. Is there something else that > must be done to accomplish this? In CF 5 and earlier, Session variables can not "work across the cluster". If you want to use Session variables in a clustered environment, you'll have to configure your cluster to use "sticky sessions", which will direct a new user to the least-busy server, but will then redirect all subsequent requests from that user to the same server. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Invalid Object
sp_changeobjectowner to change the owner of a table sp_changedbowner to change the owner of a table in sql2k - Original Message - From: "Scott Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: RE: Invalid Object > -- Original Message -- > From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> Error Executing Database Query. > >> [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]Invalid > >> object name 'securityUsers'. > > > >I think that the most common cause for this is that the database name isn't > >specified in the datasource, in which case the default database for the > >login (which is often the master database) is where the database server > >looks for the tables. > > This is amazingly similar to the problem I had over the weekend. In my case, CF wasn't regonizing tables "owned" by my cfuser name, but it did recognize tables "owened" by "dbo". So, I had to find a way to change all the table owners to "dbo". I couldn't find a way to do this in the documentation, so I ended up copying the tables through "Export Data" which created new tables with "dbo" as the owner. I then had to do the same sort of thing with the stored procedures. > > With 110+ tables (on which I had to re-set the PK and default value info) and probably 40 stored procedures, it was pretty tedious, but it worked. > > I'm sure there was a better way, but I couldn't find it. > > Scott > > Scott Brady > http://www.scottbrady.net/ > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: changing the file extension of cfm to html?
map the HTML extensions to the coldfusion dll look at your site in IIS and then see how it is done for .cfm and do the same for .htm .html - Original Message - From: "Chris Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: changing the file extension of cfm to html? > How woudl I go about changing the file extension of coldfusion files from > cfm, or having both html and cfm files get sent to the coldfusion server? > > -- > Chris Edwards > Web Application Developer > Outer Banks Internet, Inc. > 252-441-6698 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.OuterBanksInternet.com > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: client variables issue
in your CFAPPLICATIOn tag in the application.cfm as well as making sure its enabled in the CFADMIN. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:23 PM Subject: RE: client variables issue > I guess my main question is. > > I don't see where to "enable client variables" > I have a datasource set up fine that was setting my > cfid/cftoken correctly, when I tried to set my first > client variable...i got this crap :( > > help. > > ..tony > > Tony Weeg > Senior Web Developer > Information System Design > Navtrak, Inc. > Fleet Management Solutions > www.navtrak.net > 410.548.2337 > > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:20 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: client variables issue > > > hi all. > > odd thing, im getting this error when trying to set a client > variable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > output="client.wddx_reportSettings"> > > > > Exception during WDDX operation. > coldfusion.runtime.NoOperScope$ScopeDisabledException: The requested > scope CLIENT has not been enabled.. > > The Error Occurred in C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Application.cfm: line 59 > > 57 : > 58 : > 59 : output="client.wddx_reportSettings"> > 60 : > 61 : > > any ideas? > > .tony > > Tony Weeg > Senior Web Developer > Information System Design > Navtrak, Inc. > Fleet Management Solutions > www.navtrak.net > 410.548.2337 > > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Good CFX Tag to do bulk mailing
I looked at it. It had some errors on the RC2 version and it was not quite what i was looking for an actual replacement to using the CF MAIL ENGINE. Just putting it inot the /spool directory wasnt quite fast enough ;) no worries though Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Cantrell, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: RE: Good CFX Tag to do bulk mailing > Jochem has a nice custom tag to replace cfmail - not cfx though. > http://jochem.vandieten.net/coldfusion/customtags/advancedemail/ > > > And then from the makers of Active Edit - java CFX. > http://www.cfdev.com/activmail/ > > > Adam. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:43 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Good CFX Tag to do bulk mailing > > > > > > Anyone have a good CFX tag to do bulk mailing that will also > > allow it to be sent out to a specific server. > > CFMAIL is too slow but I want to see if anyone has any good > > CFX tags to do it before I start to write my own. > > > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Good CFX Tag to do bulk mailing
And i will revise my claim ;) Any application that can do 5000 Messages a minute Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Pete Freitag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: RE: Good CFX Tag to do bulk mailing > Check out ActivMail: http://www.cfdev.com/activmail/ > > _ > Pete Freitag > CTO, CFDEV.COM > http://www.cfdev.com/ > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:43 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Good CFX Tag to do bulk mailing > > > Anyone have a good CFX tag to do bulk mailing that will also allow it to be > sent out to a specific server. > CFMAIL is too slow but I want to see if anyone has any good CFX tags to do > it before I start to write my own. > > > Bill Wheatley > Senior Database Developer > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > EDIETS.COM > 954.360.9022 X159 > ICQ 417645 > > __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Good CFX Tag to do bulk mailing
Anyone have a good CFX tag to do bulk mailing that will also allow it to be sent out to a specific server. CFMAIL is too slow but I want to see if anyone has any good CFX tags to do it before I start to write my own. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Perl SCript
I used to have a Perl script that would function as a find and replace that was recursive as well anyone have any good Perl Scripts that would handle that ? :) Its going to be on unix so it has to be a perl script or another linux util. I'm digging around so i'll probably find one eventually, but any help is appreciated danks Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: SQL Injection Attacks (scrubbers cont.)
:) thats why i said for places that can not do CFQUERYparam bad boy skimming messages!! Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:00 PM Subject: RE: SQL Injection Attacks (scrubbers cont.) > > Not everyone has cfqueryparam available we are on CF4 for a > > few more months so we're SOL. > > > > But you could therotically still do something like > > > > select * > > from blah > > where userdata; select * from blah > > > > which would be interprated as a 2nd query. CFQUERY param > > might fix that it might come down to the old "better safe > > then sorry" > > No, in my experience, CFQUERYPARAM would prevent that second SQL statement > from being executed, assuming that the variable you were using contained > "userdata; select * from blah". When you use CFQUERYPARAM, CF builds a > prepared statement, which separates the SQL from the variables, and any SQL > code contained within the variables won't be treated as SQL, but rather as > literal data. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > voice: (202) 797-5496 > fax: (202) 797-5444 > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: SQL Injection Attacks (scrubbers cont.)
Not everyone has cfqueryparam available we are on CF4 for a few more months so we're SOL. But you could therotically still do something like select * from blah where userdata; select * from blah which would be interprated as a 2nd query. CFQUERY param might fix that it might come down to the old "better safe then sorry" Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:28 PM Subject: SQL Injection Attacks (scrubbers cont.) > It seems to me there are two different issues here, that only partially overlap. > > 1. data is input into a field - say an varchar/ntext/text/memo field - that will be used to display onto a page. The user could include all sorts of nasties, both simple and complex. Injected SQL isn't much of a danger here, if at all. For a field like this at the very least you need a scrubber like CodeCleaner (which for the sake of argument strips out the CFQUERY statements someone would wrap around the aforementioned SQL), or something you've home-grown. > > 2. Data is used - possibly from a form input but maybe not - in a WHERE statement; i.e. SQL injection. cfqueryparam fixes that rather handily all on its own. Malicious code of another nature isn't likely to be of any use in a WHERE clause, but cfqueryparam handles this as well. > > So my ideal system scrubs the form inputs, and further lumps them into a cfqueryparam on general principles. My WHERE clause uses cfqueryparam only. I should be pretty safe. > > What have I missed on the above? > __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: SFTP Clients
i use securefx ahh didnt know they had a commandline option kewlio Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:09 PM Subject: Re: SFTP Clients > I use vandyke's Secure FX... tho, it's a gui, but it does come with > command line things too. http://www.vandyke.com/ > > On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Bill Wheatley wrote: > > > Anyone know any good SFTP clients you can do scripting with. > > Preferably something light for a production server. > > I dont want to open up FTP on the server so i want to use SFTP (Secure via ssh). > > I am sure there has to be a sftp command line client somewhere :) > > > > thanks > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > -- > > Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - http://www.web-rat.com/ | > Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion | > http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/ | > http://www.flashCFM.com/ - webRat (Moderator)| > http://www.ultrashock.com/ - webRat (Back-end Moderator) | > > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
SFTP Clients
Anyone know any good SFTP clients you can do scripting with. Preferably something light for a production server. I dont want to open up FTP on the server so i want to use SFTP (Secure via ssh). I am sure there has to be a sftp command line client somewhere :) thanks Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Studio MX was Re: homesite+
Yea but some people don't need all that bullcrap! Though I thought I didn't need it but man I got my copy and damn if I don't like fireworks and freehand. One day if MM keeps up the good work they can give photosh!t a run for its money. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Dave Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:43 PM Subject: Re: homesite+ > It also comes with Studio MX. > > Dave > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:19 PM > Subject: Re: homesite+ > > > It is only available with Dreamweaver MX. > > At 01:10 PM 9/3/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >where would one get this nifty little creature? > > > >all I see is homesite 5 references. > > > >..tony > > > > -- > Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Need a Web Developer? Contact me! > AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 > -- > My CFMX Book: > <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-20> > My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com > My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com > > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ColdFusion Studio?
Homesite+ which ships with DWMX but we filled out the Homesite+ survey awhile back and hopefully they will continue development with it. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Troy Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: ColdFusion Studio? > It use to be called ColdFusion Studio 5. > Is there a new name for it now? > If so, what is it? > > Thanks, > Troy > > -- > - > Troy Simpson > Applications Analyst/Programmer, MCSE, OCPDBA > North Carolina State University Libraries > Campus Box 7111 | Raleigh | North Carolina > ph.919.515.3855 | fax.919.513.3330 > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Women programmers
lol wtf :) umm dupe post or my mail server here is going crazy Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Women programmers > :) Much less we have female cf people here. > > And for the times the guys have to sit through the sexist male jokes and > cracks then 1 female crack wont kill anyone. > Geez... > > Bill Wheatley > Senior Database Developer > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > EDIETS.COM > 954.360.9022 X159 > ICQ 417645 > - Original Message - > From: "Susan Hamilton-Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:25 PM > Subject: RE: Women programmers > > > > C'mon guys, lay off the cutesy sexist stuff, okay? Geez... > > > > Susan Hamilton Allen > > Web Programmer > > Pfingsten Publishing, L.L.C. > > Seven Hills, OH 44131 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:54 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Women programmers > > > > > > I see alot less work getting done in those environments *wink* j/k > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ben Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:56 AM > > Subject: RE: Women programmers > > > > > > > > So will we see that trend in programming to? > > > > > > I hope so. ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben Johnson > > > Information Architect > > > www.architekture.com > > > [p] 720.934.2179 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Women programmers
man our mail server is being slow lately i posted that hours ago lol Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Women programmers > it was a joke deal :) > > Bill Wheatley > Senior Database Developer > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > EDIETS.COM > 954.360.9022 X159 > ICQ 417645 > - Original Message - > From: "Susan Hamilton-Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:25 PM > Subject: RE: Women programmers > > > > C'mon guys, lay off the cutesy sexist stuff, okay? Geez... > > > > Susan Hamilton Allen > > Web Programmer > > Pfingsten Publishing, L.L.C. > > Seven Hills, OH 44131 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:54 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Women programmers > > > > > > I see alot less work getting done in those environments *wink* j/k > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ben Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:56 AM > > Subject: RE: Women programmers > > > > > > > > So will we see that trend in programming to? > > > > > > I hope so. ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben Johnson > > > Information Architect > > > www.architekture.com > > > [p] 720.934.2179 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Intellectual property (was RE: programmer vs. developer)
but if you read his later post hes right. If you dont have a agreement you need to get one signed to keep the company from saying you work done on personal time is there work. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Jillian Carroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: RE: Intellectual property (was RE: programmer vs. developer) > Re: no agreement, not bound > > That is really bad advice Matt. > > The laws still exist protecting intellectual property... I've had colleagues > go to court with this very battle. > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:21 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Intellectual property (was RE: programmer vs. developer) > > > If you didn't sign an agreement then you are not bound to one. This puts > the work on them to prove that everything you produce was done on > company time with company resources. > > I suggest you get your own IP agreement and force your employer to sign > it thus protecting yourself. > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > V: 415-577-8070 > F: 415-341-8906 > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:08 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Intellectual property (was RE: programmer vs. developer) > > > > "little shops" don't really have an intellectual property agreement, > but > > none the less... their term of "everything you develop for us" is > rather > > broad in scope... some assume that it also covers off-hour times, some > > assume that as a salaried employee, you're never 'off', you're just > not at > > your desk (e.g. You've been given permission to physically leave the > > building). > > > > ~Todd > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Matt Liotta wrote: > > > > > You should have signed an intellectual property agreement when you > were > > > hired. It details you rights in this regard. As with all legal > matters, > > > you are advised to seek counsel from a professional. > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > President & CEO > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > V: 415-577-8070 > > > F: 415-341-8906 > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:02 AM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: Intellectual property (was RE: programmer vs. developer) > > > > > > > > > > > > "Finally, I think this expectation that most of us have about > being a > > > > programmer 24/7 demonstrates the relative immaturity of our field; > > > after > > > > all, it really should be just like any other job, instead of being > a > > > hobby > > > > that you happen to get paid for. Sure, it's nice to enjoy your > work, > > > but > > > > work is just one part of the life of a well-rounded person." > > > > > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave, > > > > > > > > Curious question for you. To those of us that enjoy programming > as a > > > > hobby and actually do research on our own outside of work time. > How > > > does > > > > intellectual property fit into this. The reason why I bring this > up > > > is > > > > because well, due to the immaturity of most comapnies wanting > their > > > > developers to work 24/7, basically anything I concieve of is by > right > > > of > > > > employment contract, theirs. In their eyes, a salaried employee > is > > > > something akin to a ... well... a wageslave. > > > > > > > > Take the little company I work for. They'd love it if I worked > for > > > them > > > > 24/7. The partners would get a kick out of it, especially if they > > > could > > > > purchase another SUV within a few months. However, I have been > > > hesitant > > > > to hand over anything,
Re: Women programmers
:) Much less we have female cf people here. And for the times the guys have to sit through the sexist male jokes and cracks then 1 female crack wont kill anyone. Geez... Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Susan Hamilton-Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: RE: Women programmers > C'mon guys, lay off the cutesy sexist stuff, okay? Geez... > > Susan Hamilton Allen > Web Programmer > Pfingsten Publishing, L.L.C. > Seven Hills, OH 44131 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:54 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Women programmers > > > I see alot less work getting done in those environments *wink* j/k > > Bill Wheatley > Senior Database Developer > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > EDIETS.COM > 954.360.9022 X159 > ICQ 417645 > - Original Message - > From: "Ben Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:56 AM > Subject: RE: Women programmers > > > > > So will we see that trend in programming to? > > > > I hope so. ;) > > > > > > > > Ben Johnson > > Information Architect > > www.architekture.com > > [p] 720.934.2179 > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Women programmers
it was a joke deal :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Susan Hamilton-Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: RE: Women programmers > C'mon guys, lay off the cutesy sexist stuff, okay? Geez... > > Susan Hamilton Allen > Web Programmer > Pfingsten Publishing, L.L.C. > Seven Hills, OH 44131 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:54 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Women programmers > > > I see alot less work getting done in those environments *wink* j/k > > Bill Wheatley > Senior Database Developer > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > EDIETS.COM > 954.360.9022 X159 > ICQ 417645 > - Original Message - > From: "Ben Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:56 AM > Subject: RE: Women programmers > > > > > So will we see that trend in programming to? > > > > I hope so. ;) > > > > > > > > Ben Johnson > > Information Architect > > www.architekture.com > > [p] 720.934.2179 > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Women programmers
I see alot less work getting done in those environments *wink* j/k Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Ben Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: RE: Women programmers > > So will we see that trend in programming to? > > I hope so. ;) > > > > Ben Johnson > Information Architect > www.architekture.com > [p] 720.934.2179 > > > > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: programmer vs. developer
I agree you'll find alot of people who don't know and who didn't goto college. But I can pretty much say that you'll find people from college that don't know either. I know I understand all those concepts and I never went to college I've been doing software in all forms for 8 years now. I've taken training from gurus to cover all the bases and to me more knowledge is a huge motivation for me its awesome to learn more and more. I am also going to College classes in free time (not much with side work and teaching CF) to get a degree so I don't have to ever be told I'm not giving you this job because I gave it to someone with a college degree instead. My view is you'll find people who don't know crap anywhere, for the people that goto college and don't know crap you should feel worse for since they spent all the money and time and SHOULD have learned by didn't. But on the norm I agree that you will find many people who don't know the more detailed parts of "programming/developing/yadda yadda" Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Paul Wille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: programmer vs. developer > Dan, > You make a reasonable point. My experience is all that dictates my responses here. Also, the type of projects my company brings in. When my team is building a complex exterprise-level application, I want developers/programmers who can understand everything from performance tuning to properly-formed queries/Stored Procs. All that I've found thusfar is a lack of that kind of knowledge in many people, except those that come from a Software Engineering background. > > Does that mean that I wouldn't hire a perfectly competant developer/programmer who did NOT go to college for it? Not necessarily, but I would want to make sure that the person had a good foundational understanding of the type of development we do here. > > --Paul > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: programmer vs. developer
Developer is just another way to say programmer since programmer is a "Dorky" type work. I'm a programmer i dont care if its just asp its still programming. I do C++ & C & JSP and the rest of the shit out there. And if i want to be called programmer i will. But lately the trend is to be called developer becuase programmer is the "geek" version. IMHO. Its same old crap where someone says because you do CF you're not as much a real programmer as someone who does C or ASP even because its more complicated. Being complicated does not a programming langauage make. CF is simplistic but i've seen some awesomely complex CF apps before. Its all in the eyes of the beholder. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Fitch, Tyler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:13 PM Subject: RE: programmer vs. developer > Yes, > > We program. But in the grand scheme of things, for demographic purposes > we are considered developers, not just MM but to the computer world. > Programmers beat us to the programming way back when computers were > invented. They got first rights to use that name in generic terms. > > We don't do what they do. We program web pages/applications, but are > considered 'developers'. > > I'm glad you feel so strongly about it, but I think it doesn't really > matter and you definitely shouldn't be losing any sleep over it. That's > just me. > > t > > ** > Tyler M. Fitch > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > http://isitedesign.com > ** > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:52 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: programmer vs. developer > > > In MMs mind, a programmer is one who uses a compiled language like Java > or C++. A developer is someone who uses a scripting language like CF. > This is a totally artificial distinction and one I reject on every > level. I program. So do you. We're programmers. > > > > whats the difference? > > > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: debugging info in cfmx
yea there is a setting in CFADMIn to make it look like CF i dont remember the name though Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: debugging info in cfmx > is there any cool way to revert back to the way cf5 > used to display debugging info @ the bottom of pages? > > I mean, its like they took a huge step back in that department > and its now really strung out data.versus the old > way cf5 used to display the data at the bottom of pages.very neat > and concise... > > > ..tony > > Tony Weeg > Senior Web Developer > Information System Design > Navtrak, Inc. > Fleet Management Solutions > www.navtrak.net > 410.548.2337 > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Homesite+ WTF?
would be we cant get any licenses for it from any vendors we were using cfstudio 4.01 (shudder) Its ok its not too big a thing but with a little thought they could have figured a way to non cripple it. Just like i will be so excited in xp SP1 when i have to get the real java back instead of the MS java. Which i could care less but i'm sure it will screw something up and thats what i care about. That these big wig idiots sit in there meetings and make decisions without taking into account the feelings of there customer base. But when i take over the world that will all change :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Homesite+ WTF? > Why is this MM's fault? Granted, they didn't clearly explain that the > tool has been crippled due to the lawsuit, but ... you have to understand > that the lawsuit wasn't settled until way /after/ Studio MX was released > and that it had just started 2 weeks before Studio MX came out... > > If you're that dissatisfied with it, re-install CFStudio 5 and download > the CFMX tag updaters and help file updaters that everyone has or start > getting used to DWMX. > > ~Todd > > On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Bill Wheatley wrote: > > > Man MM is a bunch of idiots sometimes :) > > > > I'm sure there's a super complex way to say REMOVING a toolbar is violation > > of a copyright but chrips sake. > > Oh well another example of MM. > > > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > -- > > Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - http://www.web-rat.com/ | > Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion | > http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/ | > http://www.flashCFM.com/ - webRat (Moderator)| > http://www.ultrashock.com/ - webRat (Back-end Moderator) | > > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Homesite+ WTF?
Man MM is a bunch of idiots sometimes :) I'm sure there's a super complex way to say REMOVING a toolbar is violation of a copyright but chrips sake. Oh well another example of MM. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: RE: Homesite+ WTF? > It is. I brought this up ages ago when Studio MX was released. > > On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) wrote: > > > I think its linked with the Adobe lawsuit > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 21 August 2002 15:43 > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Homesite+ WTF? > > > > > > Ok i just noticed in Homesite+ you cant just remove toolbars from homesite > > unless they are custom?? > > > > Please tell me someone has fixed this?? wtf is the reason for doing that > > besides aggravating people who dont want certain toolbars on the screen. > > > > Thanks for the help :) > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > -- > > Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - http://www.web-rat.com/ | > Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion | > http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/ | > http://www.flashCFM.com/ - webRat (Moderator)| > http://www.ultrashock.com/ - webRat (Back-end Moderator) | > > > __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Homesite+ WTF?
Ok i just noticed in Homesite+ you cant just remove toolbars from homesite unless they are custom?? Please tell me someone has fixed this?? wtf is the reason for doing that besides aggravating people who dont want certain toolbars on the screen. Thanks for the help :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Urgent: sql 7 recovering
Anyone ever seen a situation where the db goes into recovery when it gets done it just sits there and does nothing?? SQL 7 cluster just gets to 100% for the recovery then it just says there and does nothing. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
bah html email is the best thing to happen to email :) Outlook express is great if you are not a common non technical person off the street. And i look at it like this, webpages can look horrible with green on red or pink on red so i guess emails can too. If it gets too painful i just tell it to use my color scheme instead of theirs. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Email lists > > Jochem > > > > PS Never email me in HTML, chances are your email will just be a number > > in the filter report :) > > HTML email is a pox... It gives people too much control over the medium of > the message ... especially if the recipient is using <> Outlook ( > express or otherwise ) since Microsoft has decided not to allow users of > their email client to make their own decisions about the formatting of their > incoming email. > > Even if the sender isn't intending to do anything unpleasant with the > message ( like embedding javascript that will continually throw up popup > advertising ), I often find the sender's formatting simply repulsive, i.e. > they'll put down on top of ... Who > can possibly look at that and not get a headache? > > Isaac Dealey > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > > www.turnkey.to > 954-776-0046 > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ClusterCats server name issue
I found it automatically goes to that when the server in charge is unavailable so it has to boot you to another box so it actually shows you the URL of the box you are on. Its unavoidable i think unless possibly you keep your CLuster cats control server out of the loop and just let it manage the cluster but thats impractical for most of us Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Matt Kornguth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: ClusterCats server name issue > In attempting to go to http://www.foo.com, ClusterCats seems to be working properly, however the URL that appears in the browser's address line is either http://www1.foo.com or http://www2.foo.com. > > Anyone know if there is a way to suppress the numeric server identifier? Documentation is ... well ... inadequate. > > Thanks in advance, > Matt > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
'' is not a valid integer
We get this error for some CF STudio computers when we try to open the VSS project through CF studio 4.5 projects tab. Anyone seen it before? The project file is checked in and the error only happens to 2 people. Any ideas? thanks Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email Parser
exactly that kinda check ;) lol just seeing if there is something already available so i can build off it to the needs we have. Going through 7 million records you think cf can handle it without going crazy? :) I think i'll have to do it into groups so it doesnt blow up. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Ben Forta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: RE: Email Parser > And don't forget all the AOL users who forget the .com or the aol.com > (just providing their screen name). That one feels like an epidemic > sometimes. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:12 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Email Parser > > > well Just to first regexp check to make sure the emails in the right > format > > then I want to add something to check it against a list of OBVIOUS > mistakes > > like we have about 25 million emails that are not emailing out and alot > of hatmail.com or hotmal.com > > typos for hotmail.com so I want to check for those matches and update > the record to hotmail.com something like that :) > > thanks > > Bill Wheatley > Senior Database Developer > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > EDIETS.COM > 954.360.9022 X159 > ICQ 417645 > - Original Message - > From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: Email Parser > > > > What's your definition of INVALID? Do you mean a regular expression to > > > check an email or do you mean a nslookup to check a mx record? > > > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Bill Wheatley wrote: > > > > > Anyone know any good places to get a CF based or PERL based email > > > parser to check for INVALID emails? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Bill Wheatley > > > Senior Database Developer > > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM > > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > > ICQ 417645 > > > > > > > > > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email Parser
well Just to first regexp check to make sure the emails in the right format then I want to add something to check it against a list of OBVIOUS mistakes like we have about 25 million emails that are not emailing out and alot of hatmail.com or hotmal.com typos for hotmail.com so I want to check for those matches and update the record to hotmail.com something like that :) thanks Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Email Parser > What's your definition of INVALID? Do you mean a regular expression to > check an email or do you mean a nslookup to check a mx record? > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Bill Wheatley wrote: > > > Anyone know any good places to get a CF based or PERL based email parser > > to check for INVALID emails? > > > > Thanks > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > > > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Email Parser
Anyone know any good places to get a CF based or PERL based email parser to check for INVALID emails? Thanks Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Studio MX and Homesite - Where is Homesite?
look in the homesite+ directory on the studio MX cd ;) i had the same issues. Now you're going to have to download the VTM & HELP files from the web becuase homesite+ doesnt come with CF HELP *go figure* if you need those links i can try to dig them up if vern doesnt have them handy :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Matthew R. Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: Studio MX and Homesite - Where is Homesite? > Hi all, > I just bought MX Studio - where is Homesite? I need to do a > site-wide find and replace. Can I do it in DWMX? > > Matthew Small > IT Supervisor > Showstopper National Dance Competitions > 3660 Old Kings Hwy > Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 > 843-357-1847 > > > > > > __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
DWMX & Webservice & Web services types
I have a question that I'm curious about. I've been playing around with DWMX to put webservices into a page since its pretty snazzy. I goto www.xmethods.com and I notice they have like 4 or 5 different type of services. Cold, .net, soap, glue etc etc I cant always the methods onto the page via DWMX. Is this because CFMX doesn't support .net services yet? or is this a bug in DWMX or what? Enlighten me those who have not played with webservices yet. PS this is a prime topical to write and FAQ about for the HOF lists if nobody else does I'll write about it once I figure it all our myself :) Danks Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: (Admin) Behavior
ahh screw paypal its been damn near 4 months since they froze my account I sent them everything they wanted and STILL NO ACCOUNT f'em ;) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Ryan Kime" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior > >If the behavior of flaming simple, common > >or any other question continues, I'm going > >to be forced to assign homework to the flamer. > > Better than homework, how about a "flame jar"??? If the community decides > that the person has sent a flame, then that person should (on good faith) > donate $1 through PayPal to help fund the CF-Talk list. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:24 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: (Admin) Behavior > > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: new to CF
ok here goes. The DSN is the what you set the name of the datasource so that you can use that name when you are in Coldfusion and you need to reference that datasource. Example. You make a datasource called Plants to store your plant database. Then in cf you can use throughout CF you use datasources and it has to matchup to whatever the name in the CF administrator. For access you probably dont have to set a username and password so you should just be able to select the file and walla. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 > I am really new to CF, about 1hr, and am having a bit of trouble ... I am > using a CFMX stand-alone server with windows 98 (were just testing some > development stuff). I am trying to add a new data source, more specifically > a MS access 97 database. I am using the JDBC-ODBC Bridge driver, but I > don't understand what the ODBC DSN field is for and how to make it all > connect together ... if any one out there can help it would be greatly > appreciated! > __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: (Admin) Behavior
All hail mikey, mikey d is the messiah! Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:30 PM Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > Absolutely agreed Shawn...Anyone who has time to help make this community > better, should do so. I myself am designing a web interface for employers and > people hunting for work to be able to post via the web to look at resumes, > code samples and job opportunities. Now if Michael does not want to use it > when it is done, at least the offer will be made. Michael is always trying to > give us "The Community" what we want as far as list features go, and our > support of him is just as important. > > > > > Douglas Brown > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "Shawn Grover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:19 PM > Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior > > > > Hate to say it Matt, but I think you picked a losing battle here. > > > > From my humble perspective, the CF-Talk List is THE source for information > > regarding CF issues, outside of the manuals, and a few books out there. As > > for being the number one community, well, You're here, so is Dave, and > > Michael, and Ben,and a ton of others ranging from novice to God in terms of > > coding skill. Does that not describe a community? And if Micael is doing > > this on his own time, isn't that philanthopic enough? Is it wrong for him > > to hint that help paying the bills for supporting the community is > > appreciated? I think not. > > > > Matt, you ARE a good programmer, and you DO know your stuff. I've seen that > > simply by watching the list over the past year and a half. But, your > > comments are sometimes a little rougher than I think they were intended (I > > hope). Please keep in mind that written text does not convey the facial > > features, or tone of voice that sometimes need to be seen to understand the > > meaning. > > > > My thoughts > > > > Shawn Grover > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:40 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior > > > > > > There are plenty of other people contributing to the ColdFusion > > community everyday and have been for quite some time. I don't see any of > > them asking jokingly or not for Macromedia to pay them. The whole point > > of contributing to the community is to do it for philanthropic reasons. > > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > V: 415-577-8070 > > F: 415-341-8906 > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:18 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > > > > > > I didn't ask for a job, I was jokingly suggesting it and it went on > > from > > > there. If I really wanted a job with MM, I would have offered to move > > to > > > the west coast to take the community managers position when it was > > being > > > filled. I'm quite happy here. > > > Now for the fact. I do make a living in ColdFusion. It's what I do and > > > have been doing for the last 7 years. I also support my community with > > the > > > lists and other features. I'd love to do a lot more but can't due to > > the > > > time and money issues. A consultant has to deal with this reality. If > > I > > > could find a solid company who would put up with me servicing the > > > community or even profit from it, I would. It's just not the right > > climate > > > now. > > > > > > > It awfully presumptuous for people who to suggest who Macromedia > > should > > > > hire. Further, it seems ridiculous to ask for a job with Macromedia > > like > > > > was just done. Macromedia already has an evangelist (Ben Forta) and > > a > > > > community manager (Vernon Viehe). If you don't like them or what > > they do > > > > that is one issue, but suggestion they hire someone else is simply > > not > > >
Re: (Admin) Behavior
:) yea that can be our community project to keep the jackholes out lol Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Matthew R. Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:46 PM Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior > I've got an idea - I'd be happy to write a small app that would let us > vote on people who flame. If a particular person gets enough votes, > then Michael D. is notified that the list is tired of this person. Then > he can deal with the person any way that he wants - remove him, > reprimand, torture, etc. > > > Matthew Small > IT Supervisor > Showstopper National Dance Competitions > 3660 Old Kings Hwy > Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 > 843-357-1847 > > > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: (Admin) Behavior
yea have you ever read his BIO lol. That explains it all :) Yea his tude gets on my nerves sometimes but those types you just gotta let do their own thing and have their say and just try to not let it annoy you too much. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:33 PM Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > What is up this dude MATT? is it just me or do other ppl also get > pissed by this dude's comments? > > Joe > > > - Original Message - > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:56 PM > Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior > > > > It awfully presumptuous for people who to suggest who Macromedia should > > hire. Further, it seems ridiculous to ask for a job with Macromedia like > > was just done. Macromedia already has an evangelist (Ben Forta) and a > > community manager (Vernon Viehe). If you don't like them or what they do > > that is one issue, but suggestion they hire someone else is simply not > > the way to approach it. > > > > Michael, if you really want to make a living working for the ColdFusion > > community I suggest you either apply for a job with Macromedia through > > the normal channels or better yet; start your own ColdFusion community > > portal. If you make it the number one spot for ColdFusion developers to > > go then I am sure you will be able to find plenty of ad revenue from > > companies like Macromedia. > > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > V: 415-577-8070 > > F: 415-341-8906 > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:38 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > > > > > > At 01:23 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > > >If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any other question > > > continues, > > > >I'm going to be forced to assign homework to the flamer. > > > >"If your so good at this that you can bash someone else for asking > > the > > > >question, then you have to write up a short FAQ to answer the > > question". > > > I > > > >think that if enough of these FAQs are written then maybe it'll cut > > down > > > >on what some feel are easy or silly > > > > > > Excellent idea. I agree that the same question gets asked over and > > over, > > > but it isn't the end of the world. This is one of the two best lists > > I've > > > ever been on, largely because I can feel free to ask a question that > > some > > > people would label stupid. > > > > > > >questions. I can't do this alone until someone decides to pay me for > > > >hosting the lists and community work. I barely have enough time as > > is. > > > >(Yes, this is a hint to Macromedia) > > > > > > I think you should be hired on as a technology evangelist - this list > > is > > > probably one of the greatest marketing machines MM has access to. > > > > > > T > > > > > > > > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: (Admin) Behavior
:) Some people just got that attitude lol Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:56 PM Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior > It awfully presumptuous for people who to suggest who Macromedia should > hire. Further, it seems ridiculous to ask for a job with Macromedia like > was just done. Macromedia already has an evangelist (Ben Forta) and a > community manager (Vernon Viehe). If you don't like them or what they do > that is one issue, but suggestion they hire someone else is simply not > the way to approach it. > > Michael, if you really want to make a living working for the ColdFusion > community I suggest you either apply for a job with Macromedia through > the normal channels or better yet; start your own ColdFusion community > portal. If you make it the number one spot for ColdFusion developers to > go then I am sure you will be able to find plenty of ad revenue from > companies like Macromedia. > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > V: 415-577-8070 > F: 415-341-8906 > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > > From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:38 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > > > > At 01:23 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > >If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any other question > > continues, > > >I'm going to be forced to assign homework to the flamer. > > >"If your so good at this that you can bash someone else for asking > the > > >question, then you have to write up a short FAQ to answer the > question". > > I > > >think that if enough of these FAQs are written then maybe it'll cut > down > > >on what some feel are easy or silly > > > > Excellent idea. I agree that the same question gets asked over and > over, > > but it isn't the end of the world. This is one of the two best lists > I've > > ever been on, largely because I can feel free to ask a question that > some > > people would label stupid. > > > > >questions. I can't do this alone until someone decides to pay me for > > >hosting the lists and community work. I barely have enough time as > is. > > >(Yes, this is a hint to Macromedia) > > > > I think you should be hired on as a technology evangelist - this list > is > > probably one of the greatest marketing machines MM has access to. > > > > T > > > > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Undeliverable Mail
They have a CUSTOM tag on the tag gallery that lets you automatically move and retry them over time until they are finally deleted if they are not working right. What version and platform are you on? CF 4 & 4.5 were Notorious for having horrible mail handlers and they really sucked the big monkey :). But CF5 the problems really declined greatly and cfmx is pretty snappy so if you have any other questions ask away. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Charlie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:55 PM Subject: Undeliverable Mail > I just discovered there are 100+ emails messages sitting the undeliverable folder of CFUSION/mail on our production server..i have sorted thru and forwarded any essential info to our clientsIS there a good practice to follow with regards to this..my first thought was to schedule a process that retrieved these emails and forwarded them to someone at our company ( 10 employees, hosting 50+ sites) to address the undelivered mail??? > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Re: (Admin) Behavior
lol that opened a can of worms :) Now all the atheists are gonna be pissed cause they dont believe in "lord" hehe Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Marlon Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:49 PM Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > Allright, everybody look to the person on their left. Now look to the > person on your right > > and repeat > > *Kumbaya* *Kumbaya* my Lord, *kumbaya* *Kumbaya* my Lord, *kumbaya* > *Kumbaya* my Lord, *kumbaya* > Oh Lord *kumbaya* Someone's crying my Lord, *kumbaya* Someone's crying > my Lord > > :) > > Thane Sherrington wrote: > > >At 01:23 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > > > > >>If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any other question continues, > >>I'm going to be forced to assign homework to the flamer. > >>"If your so good at this that you can bash someone else for asking the > >>question, then you have to write up a short FAQ to answer the question". I > >>think that if enough of these FAQs are written then maybe it'll cut down > >>on what some feel are easy or silly > >> > >> > > > >Excellent idea. I agree that the same question gets asked over and over, > >but it isn't the end of the world. This is one of the two best lists I've > >ever been on, largely because I can feel free to ask a question that some > >people would label stupid. > > > > > > > >>questions. I can't do this alone until someone decides to pay me for > >>hosting the lists and community work. I barely have enough time as is. > >>(Yes, this is a hint to Macromedia) > >> > >> > > > >I think you should be hired on as a technology evangelist - this list is > >probably one of the greatest marketing machines MM has access to. > > > >T > > > > > __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: (Admin) Behavior
True its a great Resource but MM is too farsighted to see what they have in the HOF lists. Hay vern and christine (sp) you should get MM to pay Mikey and give him a job. Besides i'm sure a good percentage of us are MM shareholders, we can hold a vote on it lol. All in favor say yea! :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:37 PM Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > At 01:23 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > >If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any other question continues, > >I'm going to be forced to assign homework to the flamer. > >"If your so good at this that you can bash someone else for asking the > >question, then you have to write up a short FAQ to answer the question". I > >think that if enough of these FAQs are written then maybe it'll cut down > >on what some feel are easy or silly > > Excellent idea. I agree that the same question gets asked over and over, > but it isn't the end of the world. This is one of the two best lists I've > ever been on, largely because I can feel free to ask a question that some > people would label stupid. > > >questions. I can't do this alone until someone decides to pay me for > >hosting the lists and community work. I barely have enough time as is. > >(Yes, this is a hint to Macromedia) > > I think you should be hired on as a technology evangelist - this list is > probably one of the greatest marketing machines MM has access to. > > T > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: (Admin) Behavior
Dave i think you're wrong on that one becuase we all know Dave Watts was hatched in a Programmer Breeding colony. From birth trained in the arts of programming and eventually CF. :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Dave Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > What's so ludicrous about flaming less experienced programmers, is that many > times more effort is put into the flame than if they'd just have answered > the question. Everyone one of us was a beginner at some point! > > Dave > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:27 PM > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > > > Here here ;) I don't like when people get flamed because they haven't > encountered a problem before and decide its better to have a little help > then to try to figure it out themselves. > > hehe Yea MM pay Mikey for hosting, he's helped us out more then anything MM > ever provides for us developers. > > Bill Wheatley > Senior Database Developer > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > EDIETS.COM > 954.360.9022 X159 > ICQ 417645 > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:23 PM > Subject: (Admin) Behavior > > > > First I want to be a parent here. I hate doing so but sometimes its > needed. > > If someone asks a question on the list and another person thinks it to > simple, that other person has 3 choices; either answer it, point the > questioner to the place where the answer is or not post at all. People > should not be afraid to post their questions because they feel that someone > will flame them or their question will be silly or simple. This is a list > for all. > > If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any other question continues, > I'm going to be forced to assign homework to the flamer. > > "If your so good at this that you can bash someone else for asking the > question, then you have to write up a short FAQ to answer the question". I > think that if enough of these FAQs are written then maybe it'll cut down on > what some feel are easy or silly questions. I can't do this alone until > someone decides to pay me for hosting the lists and community work. I barely > have enough time as is. (Yes, this is a hint to Macromedia) > > > > Michael Dinowitz > > Master of the House of Fusion > > http://www.houseoffusion.com > > > > > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: (Admin) Behavior
Here here ;) I don't like when people get flamed because they haven't encountered a problem before and decide its better to have a little help then to try to figure it out themselves. hehe Yea MM pay Mikey for hosting, he's helped us out more then anything MM ever provides for us developers. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: (Admin) Behavior > First I want to be a parent here. I hate doing so but sometimes its needed. > If someone asks a question on the list and another person thinks it to simple, that other person has 3 choices; either answer it, point the questioner to the place where the answer is or not post at all. People should not be afraid to post their questions because they feel that someone will flame them or their question will be silly or simple. This is a list for all. > If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any other question continues, I'm going to be forced to assign homework to the flamer. > "If your so good at this that you can bash someone else for asking the question, then you have to write up a short FAQ to answer the question". I think that if enough of these FAQs are written then maybe it'll cut down on what some feel are easy or silly questions. I can't do this alone until someone decides to pay me for hosting the lists and community work. I barely have enough time as is. (Yes, this is a hint to Macromedia) > > Michael Dinowitz > Master of the House of Fusion > http://www.houseoffusion.com > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Fw: Differences between CF 4 - CF5
Oops sorry i meant to send this thread to cf-talk not cfcommunity ;) Sowwie Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: Differences between CF 4 - CF5 > Ok guys we're updating to CF5 here finally :) YEA! > > And the IT guy doesnt take my word for the differences between Cf4 & 5 and does anyone have a > > PDF that shows differences/issues from going from CF4 to CF5 or CF4 to 4.5 from 4.5 to 5.0? > > so i can show him and make him happy danka > > > Bill Wheatley > Senior Database Developer > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > EDIETS.COM > 954.360.9022 X159 > ICQ 417645 > > __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Password protecting browsable web directories
Why not use HTACCESS? or cant you use that with the evil IIS :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 4:18 PM Subject: Password protecting browsable web directories > I've got a client that wants a simple web-accessible file store where > employees can download files. The simplest approach is just to enable > directory browsing and to allow administrators to FTP to the web site to > upload the files. Now they want to password protect the directory. I don't > want to use NT user accounts. > > If I use CF for login management, I must create index files in each > directory, but I lose the simple web server based 'browsability' of the > directory tree. What are the alternatives? Do I need to create an > application that mimics the web server behavior? > > Jim > > __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Finding a good Session management system.
Use client variables if they are going to be less then 32k (i think it was) or you will mess up your client variable storage and have to rebuild them. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Stephen Moretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Finding a good Session management system. > Bah Humbug > > Use Client variables Just don't forget that you must change the default > client store from registry to a datasource (whatever the operating system > you're running on) otherwise your registry will either fill up quickly or > just slow your application down horrendously. > > Better ways of handling your session variables. > Copy your entire session scop to a request variable in Application.cfm and > back again in onRequestEnd.cfm. This way during the users request to site > whatever session variable you need is in the request scope. No messing with > cflocks in the rest of your code Make sure you do a Duplicate() rather > than StructCopy or request.session = session > > Or you could buy CFMX and do away with cflocking (unless there's going to be > any kind of race condition) > > Regards > > Stephen > > > Don't use session variables, > > but use cookies which maintain session state when the browser is open > > and deleted when closed. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Adams, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:54 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Finding a good Session management system. > > > > > > ** > > WESTMINSTER CITY COUNCIL > > Please refer to the disclaimer beneath this message > > ** > > > > Hi, > > > > I have been building CF sites for a while now and I am always finding > myself > > creating/deleting and checking for session variables or changing them into > > request variables. It always seems to me that there must be a better way > in > > which to use them. A way that lets me create them easily, delete them, > keep > > track of them with out have to write tons of code and does not add loads > of > > time to the running of my applications.. > > Does anyone know of or have any tips on how I can easily handle the > > management of session variables. > > > > Thanks > > > > Stephen > > > > > > ** > > Westminster City Council switchboard: > > +44 20 7641 6000 > > ** > > This E-Mail may contain information which is > > privileged, confidential and protected from > > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient > > of this E-mail or any part of it, please telephone > > Westminster City Council immediately on receipt. > > You should not disclose the contents to any other > > person or take copies. > > ** > > > > > > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
DWMX integration with VSS
SO what's the story in DWMX integration with VSS? How Studio let you create a project and link that to your source control so you could maintain version control. Btw ;) when you have a really big project in CF STUDIO like 13000 files. Anyway to make it work a little faster, tips tricks, hints? Thanks Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Little Nervous
umm I don't think I want to have fun with IT in the middle of a seminar :) They might get the wrong idea Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "William H. Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Little Nervous > First, break a leg! > > Second, don't talk too fast. > > Third, have fun with it! > > will > > > William H. Bowen > Webmaster > ALSTOM's T&D Energy Automation & Information Business > > "Your friendly neighborhood Webmaster" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.esca.com/ > > 425.739.3629 Voice > 425.466.7016 Cell > 425.739.3690 FAX > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:04 AM > Subject: OT: Little Nervous > > > > I'm going to be doing a seminar tonight with a friend in Miami about > Macromedia MX line. I'll be doing CF and some of the other products and my > friend will be doing the remainder of the MX line for his graphics side of > it. > > > > And then after that I'm going to start teaching a CF class at the CADD > institute of Miami. So I'm a little nervous since this would be my first > paid group learning I will be doing. :) I already talked with Adam C. about > his tips now anyone else have any other tips. > > Besides - Don't forget to zip your fly lol. > > > > Though I'm excited and I'm sure it will be great so we'll just have to > see! > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > > > > __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: Little Nervous
ROFL Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Tangorre, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:13 PM Subject: RE: OT: Little Nervous > If you get nervous, picture Hal Helms, Ben Forta, etc... in their skibbys :-) > > Problem solved. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:04 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: OT: Little Nervous > > > Break a leg. :) > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Bill Wheatley wrote: > > > I'm going to be doing a seminar tonight with a friend in Miami about Macromedia MX line. I'll be doing CF and some of the other products and my friend will be doing the remainder of the MX line for his graphics side of it. > > > > And then after that I'm going to start teaching a CF class at the CADD institute of Miami. So I'm a little nervous since this would be my first paid group learning I will be doing. :) I already talked with Adam C. about his tips now anyone else have any other tips. > > Besides - Don't forget to zip your fly lol. > > > > Though I'm excited and I'm sure it will be great so we'll just have to see! > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > > > > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Little Nervous
I'm going to be doing a seminar tonight with a friend in Miami about Macromedia MX line. I'll be doing CF and some of the other products and my friend will be doing the remainder of the MX line for his graphics side of it. And then after that I'm going to start teaching a CF class at the CADD institute of Miami. So I'm a little nervous since this would be my first paid group learning I will be doing. :) I already talked with Adam C. about his tips now anyone else have any other tips. Besides - Don't forget to zip your fly lol. Though I'm excited and I'm sure it will be great so we'll just have to see! Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: The drive wars - was hardware question.
Agreed :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:10 AM Subject: RE: The drive wars - was hardware question. > Bill, > > While I generally agree with you regarding SCSI when it comes to datbase > servers, I would disagree in regard to web servers. We have multiple CF web > servers in a cluster. the "file access" mostly hits the template cache. > Once they are booted the disks do relatively little other than system > tasks - assuming you have adequate memory and your template cache is large > enough. We baselined it very carefully and came to the conclusion that for > THIS specicific purpose, IDE was sufficient. The number concurrent users > seems to make no appreciable impact (we serve as many as 5 million requests > on a typical business day) on the performance of the disk. The chief > factor in the decision should be the amount of disk activity. Note, since > they are NOT hot swappable, I would not try this arrangement outside of a > cluster as it would result in down-time. We use Raid 1 for redundacy and > keep spares handy - but we have needed them no more frequently than the scsi > spares. > > As far as the enterprise goes - buy the best hardware you can afford for > your Datbase server, have hot spares on board and a good backup db server > (that you keep current with log shipping or replication or whatever). That's > where the critical data lives. IMO, I'd rather have a cluster of 4 > inexpensive web servers running through a hardward load balancer than 1 > expensive web server. > > -Mark > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:48 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: The drive wars - was hardware question. > > > Bah IDE just doesn't function as well when you have concurrent users doing > things on the drive. > IDE ATA100 is nice for when its just me or a few people banging out stuff on > the drives. But if you have > a good load of processes having to read and write to the drive you need to > have SCSI. I have ATA133 at home it rocks > but we also have 15k SCSI drives at work and I couldn't even think to put > our stuff on IDE drives. IDE is not their yet for enterprise level business, > it will work but its like towing a boat with a Economy class ford escort. :) > > But then again what do I know. > > > Bill Wheatley > Senior Database Developer > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > EDIETS.COM > 954.360.9022 X159 > ICQ 417645 > - Original Message - > From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:30 AM > Subject: RE: The drive wars - was hardware question. > > > > We have both IDE and SCSI (some are hot swap and some are no) in a large > > data center with many different kinds of systems. We see BOTH kinds of > > drives fail infrequently. IMO, if you have a server without a hot backup > > server, or one that's not in a cluster, using a hot-swappable SCSI setup > is > > something you should seriously consider - especially for a DB server. > > However, we use IDE quite successfully in several situations. > > > > -mk > > > > > > > > > > __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: The drive wars - was hardware question.
Bah IDE just doesn't function as well when you have concurrent users doing things on the drive. IDE ATA100 is nice for when its just me or a few people banging out stuff on the drives. But if you have a good load of processes having to read and write to the drive you need to have SCSI. I have ATA133 at home it rocks but we also have 15k SCSI drives at work and I couldn't even think to put our stuff on IDE drives. IDE is not their yet for enterprise level business, it will work but its like towing a boat with a Economy class ford escort. :) But then again what do I know. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:30 AM Subject: RE: The drive wars - was hardware question. > We have both IDE and SCSI (some are hot swap and some are no) in a large > data center with many different kinds of systems. We see BOTH kinds of > drives fail infrequently. IMO, if you have a server without a hot backup > server, or one that's not in a cluster, using a hot-swappable SCSI setup is > something you should seriously consider - especially for a DB server. > However, we use IDE quite successfully in several situations. > > -mk > > > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF5/linux problem
:) I used to have the same problem I tried running CF in debug mode with GDB attached to see the dumps but it just wasn't working right. We never did figure out what was wrong completely but I did have to do the cron restarts as well as you. Hopefully on CF-LINUX list Jesse n. can help you out a bit more then I can. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Terry Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: CF5/linux problem > Hey folks, > > I'm encountering a strange problem that maybe some of you have run into before. > > Config: CF5, linux 7.2, Apache/CF5 EAPI module, mysql > > I have one template that runs many times a minute. However, under cfstat, a thread running this > template seems to hang somewhat randomly -- every few hours or so. Under cfstat it is listed as a > running request. What happens is that 10 such requests over time end up running and CF > grinds to a halt. The template timeout of 45 seconds is ignored. My current solution is to > cron-restart httpd every 12 hours -- not a pretty solution. > > The strange part: the template does NOT seem to be caught in a loop. If I restart Apache, > these infinitely-running threads disappear, and I get server.log entries: > > "Warning","TID=11275","07/15/02","07:42:05","Template: /template.cfm, Ran: 5258 seconds." > "Error","TID=8200","07/15/02","07:42:06","Unable to write reply -- client browser stopped waiting for request. " > > If I create a new template with an intentional loop and run it, restarting Apache does not remove the thread > from the running list. > > So, it SEEMS to me that CF is done with the template but that Apache is doing something weird. > Maybe? > > Does anyone have any experience or ideas? I'm not entirely sure how to debug this one. > > Thanks, > Terry > > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Strange Time problem
or that :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Debbie Dickerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Strange Time problem > There were timestamp issues with mail in 4.5.0 and 4.5.1. What version specifically are you running? I'd suggest at applying the service pack if you haven't already done so. > > -Original Message- > From: Frank Mamone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:46 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Strange Time problem > > > There's a strange time problem on our CF 4.5 servers. Mail sent to our SMTP server via CFMAIL shows a Sent timestamp of 1 hour ahead of the system time. > > Anyone seen this before? > > Frank Mamone > > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Strange Time problem
Is your Bios clock the same as your Software/system clock? Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Frank Mamone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: Strange Time problem > There's a strange time problem on our CF 4.5 servers. Mail sent to our SMTP server via CFMAIL shows a Sent timestamp of 1 hour ahead of the system time. > > Anyone seen this before? > > Frank Mamone > > __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope
:) oh and I do like CFMX in case you might get the idea I don't lol Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Ben Forta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:06 PM Subject: RE: Storing Queries in Application Scope > Douglas, > > Well, if you are planning to wait for an SP you could end up waiting for > a long long time, there is no SP scheduled at this time. > > And while there have been posts here about problems upgrading, realize > that there are a couple of thousand subscribers to this list (and far > less than that are regular contributors) and that is a very small > percentage of the CF user base - the reality is that most users have not > experienced upgrade problems at all. With the exception of COM (which is > being looked at) and the documented changes (e.g. advanced security, > dynamic database connections) this has actually been a very painless > upgrade for most (far less painful than say CF3.x to CF4 or CF4 to > CF4.5). > > Hope this helps. > > --- Ben > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:54 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > This really is a problem with upgrading to MX. I would hate to re-write > and entire application just because MX does not seem to play well with > CF5 code. I have seen so many posts regarding problems people are having > with MX and am wondering if I should just wait until a SP comes out for > it. What are everone elses thoughts? > > > > > Douglas Brown > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:44 AM > Subject: RE: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > > It really depends on how your application is put together. If you > > followed some of the standard ways CF applications were put together, > > then CFMX will smoke CF 5. However, if you had taken the time to write > > > applications that were designed to smoke every other application > > server on the market with CF 5, you are pretty much screwed with CFMX. > > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > V: 415-577-8070 > > F: 415-341-8906 > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:42 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > > > > Really? Our CFMX smokes any of our CF5 installs! You sure you don't > > have > > > debug on? ;-) > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:27 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > > > > Yup now we're at cfmx which cf5 still is faster then though mx does > > alot > > > of > > > neat things 5 doesn't. Maybe someday someone can make J2EE run a > > little > > > faster lol. > > > > > > Bill Wheatley > > > Senior Database Developer > > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM > > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > > ICQ 417645 > > > - Original Message - > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:21 AM > > > Subject: Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > > > > > > > > *sniff sniff* ahh, the good old CF3 days, back when there were a > > > > zillion restrictions on cfoutput Pound signs everywhere > > > > cfloops that counted slower than you saying the numbers > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: Zac Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Date: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:14 am > > > > Subject: Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > > > > > > > Dave Watts wrote: > > > > > >>Why can I not just reference my queries at > > > > > >>application.[queryName].[value] throughout my > > > > > &g
Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope
Wow I've been thinking about something. Since MM took over Allaire we haven't had /any/ SP's for Coldfusion. Either that says the products are perfect or they don't give a damn lol. I mean I know they have all those hotfixes when we bitch enough to get them to allocate their more limiting resources since layoffs. :) Its a pain installing all the hotfixes one by one, it might be easier for them to release a SP but I'm sure MM is just trying to recoup the massive jack they've spend to make the MX line. Oh well one day they'll get back to the Allaire roots of their product. Lol One time Ben actually got me a call from Amy Lewis who was a VP and on the board of allaire. That's freaking how great they were about trying to do the right thing with their customers. Though I find it very hard to think I'm gonna get a call from anyone higher then Lower Management from that company. Of course I still keep buying their products so I can hope my money helps them get some better CS eventually. lol maybe let a few of the old Team Allaire guys on TMM. Oh well a programmer can dream. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Ben Forta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:06 PM Subject: RE: Storing Queries in Application Scope > Douglas, > > Well, if you are planning to wait for an SP you could end up waiting for > a long long time, there is no SP scheduled at this time. > > And while there have been posts here about problems upgrading, realize > that there are a couple of thousand subscribers to this list (and far > less than that are regular contributors) and that is a very small > percentage of the CF user base - the reality is that most users have not > experienced upgrade problems at all. With the exception of COM (which is > being looked at) and the documented changes (e.g. advanced security, > dynamic database connections) this has actually been a very painless > upgrade for most (far less painful than say CF3.x to CF4 or CF4 to > CF4.5). > > Hope this helps. > > --- Ben > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:54 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > This really is a problem with upgrading to MX. I would hate to re-write > and entire application just because MX does not seem to play well with > CF5 code. I have seen so many posts regarding problems people are having > with MX and am wondering if I should just wait until a SP comes out for > it. What are everone elses thoughts? > > > > > Douglas Brown > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:44 AM > Subject: RE: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > > It really depends on how your application is put together. If you > > followed some of the standard ways CF applications were put together, > > then CFMX will smoke CF 5. However, if you had taken the time to write > > > applications that were designed to smoke every other application > > server on the market with CF 5, you are pretty much screwed with CFMX. > > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > V: 415-577-8070 > > F: 415-341-8906 > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:42 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > > > > Really? Our CFMX smokes any of our CF5 installs! You sure you don't > > have > > > debug on? ;-) > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:27 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > > > > Yup now we're at cfmx which cf5 still is faster then though mx does > > alot > > > of > > > neat things 5 doesn't. Maybe someday someone can make J2EE run a > > little > > > faster lol. > > > > > > Bill Wheatley > > > Senior Database Developer > > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM > > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > > ICQ 41764
Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope
I know they all have their pros and cons. I think the pros for MX outweigh and performance things that i've been using. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > Yup now we're at cfmx which cf5 still is faster then > > though mx does alot of neat things 5 doesn't. Maybe > > someday someone can make J2EE run a little faster lol. > > I've heard 2 things about the speed of MX ... > > 1) that it's inherently much faster than CF5 > > 2) that code optimized for CF5 > is _much_ slower on MX than on CF5 > > Not sure how much truth is in those statements in general... Based on some > of the stuff I've seen on MX, I'd be inclined to agree that it's inherently > faster... I ran the CFMX code validator on an application of mine with > several _thousand_ files and it returned results in less than a second > iirc... I wouldn't expect that kind of processing speed from anything that > parses templates for code validation in CF5... Could be that it uses a C++ > com object to accomplish the task tho... I wouldn't know... > > Isaac Dealey > www.turnkey.to > 954-776-0046 > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope
Yup now we're at cfmx which cf5 still is faster then though mx does alot of neat things 5 doesn't. Maybe someday someone can make J2EE run a little faster lol. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope > *sniff sniff* ahh, the good old CF3 days, back when there were a > zillion restrictions on cfoutput Pound signs everywhere > cfloops that counted slower than you saying the numbers > > - Original Message - > From: Zac Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:14 am > Subject: Re: Storing Queries in Application Scope > > > Dave Watts wrote: > > >>Why can I not just reference my queries at > > >>application.[queryName].[value] throughout my > > >>application? > > > > > > > > > You can. This is actually described near the bottom of the > > technote.I'm not > > > sure why the writer bothered with all that copying queries to > > arrays > > stuff > > > at the top. > > > > and the coding style is bad way to many #'s where they aren't need and > > they don't lock! but it's cf 3.0 code :-) > > > > z > > > > > > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Online or CBT training
I never learned from any online courses cause they just really never did any good if you have time fly out to Atlanta area and goto one of adams courses they are awesome and worth the trip. You come back and for months afterwards just picking the chunks of knowledge out of your head. And sometimes even if you already know all the things in the world like i thought :) you still learn enough to just go wow. As being in a room with 5 other people you have time to go over Best practices and think about issues and come up with some solutions. Oh well If you find any good online courses let us know but i doubt their are any of substance. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:44 AM Subject: Online or CBT training > I've gone through three books on CF. (The "in Seven Days" one, CFWACK, and > Professional CF 5.) Are there any good CBTs or online courses I can > take? I'm too far away from anywhere to take a classroom-based course. > > T > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ot button question
magic fairy dust? i think you're stuck with using a graphic as nothing in standard html 3 forms lets you make that so pretty unless its a graphic Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Joshua Tipton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: ot button question > Does anyone know how to create a button that looks like the xp start > button with the curves besides using a graphic? > > > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF5 debugging question
Yea use the list cf-linux and ask on their cause I know Jesse watched that list if not this one. He can tell you how to do it I don't work at the place anymore so I don't remember. BUT I might have the emails at home so I'll check and see if I have them and if so I'll forward them off to you on how to do it, well that is if Jesse doesn't help you out first he's awesome. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "SoW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: Re: CF5 debugging question > Hi Bill, > > I'm running linux. Do you happen to know where i might be able to find that > info > on how to debug? Thanks. > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:33 PM > Subject: Re: CF5 debugging question > > > > There is something jesse noller had me do before by editing the CF script > to > > have it attach to a debugger but that was on linux ;) i dont know what > > windows would do. What it did was make a Core dump when you ran so that we > > could dtrace what the problem was. > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > - Original Message - > > From: "SoW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:23 PM > > Subject: Re: CF5 debugging question > > > > > > > Thanks Bill, > > > > > > Problem is that the pages NEVER exit, so logging for pages taking longer > > > than XX > > > seconds never logs anything. During the duration of these hanging > threads > > > the DB > > > is running just fine, low load. I wish there was some way for me to > kill > > CF > > > when > > > this happens and be able to determine somehow what exactly was running. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:06 PM > > > Subject: Re: CF5 debugging question > > > > > > > > > > You can try turning on logging for pages that take longer then XX > > seconds > > > > and then monitoring your log files. > > > > Make sure your DB is not being bogged down or that would slow down CF > > > > execution. Or that you are getting more concurrent hits then you have > > > > allowed in CF studio. Should be set to have 5 or 6 per processor for > the > > # > > > > of concurrent hits. > > > > > > > > I noticed sometimes the TIMEOUT was ignored but I remember reading why > > > that > > > > happened because in some stages CF does NOT use that to kill a page if > > it > > > > runs too long like on db queries and some other processing. Jesse > might > > be > > > > able to better say what exactly. > > > > > > > > Hope helps a little bit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Wheatley > > > > Senior Database Developer > > > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > > > EDIETS.COM > > > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > > > ICQ 417645 > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "SoW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:56 PM > > > > Subject: CF5 debugging question > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > > > CF5 runs fine for hours and then all of a sudden I get a single > thread > > > or > > > > two that just run forever (as reported by cfstat). The 45 second > > timeout > > > I > > > > have is simply ignored by these threads. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any idea on how I can determine what templates are > > > > getting in this state? They run forever, slowing down the server > until > > I > > > > restart it. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF5 debugging question
There is something jesse noller had me do before by editing the CF script to have it attach to a debugger but that was on linux ;) i dont know what windows would do. What it did was make a Core dump when you ran so that we could dtrace what the problem was. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "SoW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: Re: CF5 debugging question > Thanks Bill, > > Problem is that the pages NEVER exit, so logging for pages taking longer > than XX > seconds never logs anything. During the duration of these hanging threads > the DB > is running just fine, low load. I wish there was some way for me to kill CF > when > this happens and be able to determine somehow what exactly was running. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:06 PM > Subject: Re: CF5 debugging question > > > > You can try turning on logging for pages that take longer then XX seconds > > and then monitoring your log files. > > Make sure your DB is not being bogged down or that would slow down CF > > execution. Or that you are getting more concurrent hits then you have > > allowed in CF studio. Should be set to have 5 or 6 per processor for the # > > of concurrent hits. > > > > I noticed sometimes the TIMEOUT was ignored but I remember reading why > that > > happened because in some stages CF does NOT use that to kill a page if it > > runs too long like on db queries and some other processing. Jesse might be > > able to better say what exactly. > > > > Hope helps a little bit > > > > > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > - Original Message - > > From: "SoW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:56 PM > > Subject: CF5 debugging question > > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > CF5 runs fine for hours and then all of a sudden I get a single thread > or > > two that just run forever (as reported by cfstat). The 45 second timeout > I > > have is simply ignored by these threads. > > > > > > Does anyone have any idea on how I can determine what templates are > > getting in this state? They run forever, slowing down the server until I > > restart it. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF5 debugging question
You can try turning on logging for pages that take longer then XX seconds and then monitoring your log files. Make sure your DB is not being bogged down or that would slow down CF execution. Or that you are getting more concurrent hits then you have allowed in CF studio. Should be set to have 5 or 6 per processor for the # of concurrent hits. I noticed sometimes the TIMEOUT was ignored but I remember reading why that happened because in some stages CF does NOT use that to kill a page if it runs too long like on db queries and some other processing. Jesse might be able to better say what exactly. Hope helps a little bit Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "SoW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: CF5 debugging question > Hi folks, > > CF5 runs fine for hours and then all of a sudden I get a single thread or two that just run forever (as reported by cfstat). The 45 second timeout I have is simply ignored by these threads. > > Does anyone have any idea on how I can determine what templates are getting in this state? They run forever, slowing down the server until I restart it. > > Thanks! > > __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFCookie?
yea ie 6 lets you block 3rd party cookies or cookies for specific domains Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Tony Carcieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: CFCookie? > Dave, > > Can't you also block 3rd party cookies from being set in your browser > settings? > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:53 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CFCookie? > > > > Yea that's what I thought ;) SO I was wondering what these > > ASP boneheads are smoking thinking they are going to be > > able to read an ediets.com Cookie from their site. > > No, they won't be able to read the cookie that you set on your server. > However, you could reference an image or other file on their server, and > send the value that you want as a URL attribute. Then, they could set a > cookie when the browser requests that file. That's how shared ad servers > track people across multiple sites. Newer browser may display a warning when > this is done, though, about the use of a third-party cookie. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > voice: (202) 797-5496 > fax: (202) 797-5444 > > __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFCookie?
Yea that's what I thought ;) SO I was wondering what these ASP boneheads are
smoking thinking they are going to be able to read an ediets.com Cookie from
their site. Duh
But I figured I might have missed something
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
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From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: CFCookie?
> Cookies are not available to other domains/sites for security reasons.
>
> HTH,
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Greg Luce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:13 PM
> Subject: CFCookie?
>
>
> > I need a cookie to be read by another site. Can someone explain how this
> > works? What's the difference between CFCookie and cfset cookie.blah =
> > ..? Of course my site is CF, but the other site is ASP. They just want
> > verification that the user is logged in.
> >
> > I tried this:
> > And I can't see it in my C:\Documents and Settings\Greg\Local
> > Settings\Temporary Internet Files directory.
> >
> > Here's the code I need to see the cookie on the other end:
> > <%
> > 'this is the code that prevents unauthorized users from viewing these
> > pages.
> > thebrowser=trim(request.servervariables("HTTP_USER_AGENT"))
> > if not instr(thebrowser,"Robot) allrec") > 0 then
> > eDCookie=Trim(Request.Cookies("eD"))
> > if eDCookie<>"OK" then response.Redirect("/NotAuthorized.asp")
> > end if
> > %>
> >
> >
> > Greg Luce
> > eDiets.com
> > 3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd
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Re: New ColdFusion MX Master Class training course
And if i know adams classes the food is awesome :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:16 AM Subject: New ColdFusion MX Master Class training course > The August ColdFusion MX Master Class filled up so quickly that we decided > to add another one in August (with a one-week breather in between for > sanity's sake) to accommodate people who didn't reserve their seats in time > for the earlier class. > > Maximum class size is only three students, and both David and I teach the > class together so there's plenty of personalized mentoring throughout the > course. > > If you want to rocket yourself deep into MX and gain some solid experience > with all the new features and functionality then we'd be honored to have you > in our class! :) > > Respectfully, > > Adam Phillip Churvis > Advanced Intensive ColdFusion MX Training > http://www.ColdFusionTraining.com > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone: 770-446-8866 > > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Site monitoring services
Hay i had a question there was a website that used to monitor your site for you and let you know when it was done anyone remember a URL for a site like that? I am trying to prove to my isp that my site is down more then the AUP says so i wanna stickem! Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Sql 7 SHOWCONTIG
I want to use CF to run a SHOWCONTIG and send the results via an email and i'm
thinking of a way to get it to show em the results.
Can i set the results into an OUT VARIABLE and then have CF take that out var and
display that?
DECLARE @id int, @indid int
SET @id = OBJECT_ID('tblBenefit')
SELECT @indid = indid
FROM sysindexes
WHERE id = @id
AND name = 'aunmind'
DBCC SHOWCONTIG (@id, @indid)
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
EDIETS.COM
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