RE: Multi-Level CFTREE from a query?
You didn't used to be able to do this easily in SQL Server, though I think you can now. In Oracle, it's easy using the START WITH and CONNECT BY syntax: http://www.adp-gmbh.ch/ora/sql/connect_by.html -Original Message- From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Multi-Level CFTREE from a query? Joe Celko's nested tree model works nicely. It was in the book SQL For Smarties I believe. Greg On 7/17/07, Richard Colman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of an example of how to populate a multi-lvel CFTREE control from a query. There are doc examples showing hard coding the levels, but I can't seem to find one showing how to populate from a query. TNX if you can provide a pointer. Rick Colman ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284084 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Next Capitol Hill User Group (CHUG) Meeting: 7/25/07 3:00 PM
Folks, please feel free to forward this on to friends, colleagues, distribution lists on the House side, LOC, other agencies, anyone around Capitol Hill doing web application development: If you're interested in ColdFusion, Flex, ActionScript, JavaScript, AJAX, XML and web application development in general, please join us at the next meeting of the http://www.capitolhillusergroup.org/: Wednesday July 25th 3-5 PM in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, Room 192 When we last CHUGged, we talked shop and demoed ten new features of ColdFusion MX8 (due out any old day now!) At our next meeting, Matt's going to walk us through prototyping in Flex, Jason's going to play a bit with the Google AJAX Feed API and Brad's going to show off something Top Secret. And if you've been working on something you'd like to share, just let us know - the stage is yours! We'll also list our top ten ColdFusion/Flex resources on the web and hand out some slick Adobe swag! We'll talk about some news highlights, recap the CFUnited and FlexManiacs conferences and try to settle on a recurring date and time for future CHUG meetings. Please RSVP at http://www.capitolhillusergroup.org/index.cfm?event=showRSVPFormmeeting ID=BBADC841-F364-7101-6613B3AE80885568 And if you cant make it, you might keep in touch on our mailing list at http://groups.google.com/group/capitolhillusergroup ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283702 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Next meeting of the Capitol Hill User Group: 6/19 3PM
Capitol Hill User Group (CHUG) Organizational Meeting and ColdFusion 8 6/19/07 3:00 PM Senate Dirksen Office Building - Room 192 In our next meeting we'll deal with some organizational issues, and we want to hear from YOU so we make sure the group best meets your needs. We'll also demo some of the great new features in ColdFusion 8. Note: anyone with anything to do with web development on Capitol Hill is welcome. Dirksen is open to the public. All are welcome! RSVP at http://www.capitolhillusergroup.org/ ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280753 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Inaugural Meeting of the Capitol Hill User Group with Special Guests Ben Forta, Tim Buntel and Adam Wayne Lehman!
Just a reminder: The inaugural meeting of the Capitol Hill User Group (CHUG) is THIS Thursday at 1 PM in room 138 of the Dirksen Senate Office Building! Ben Forta, Tim Buntel and Adam Wayne Lehman are confirmed! RSVP http://www.capitolhillusergroup.org/ to be notified if anything changes. And join the CHUG mailing list at http://groups.google.com/group/capitolhillusergroup to be notified of future events. Hope you can make it and feel free to pass this on! -Original Message- From: Blum, Jason (SAA) Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:14 PM To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Inaugural Meeting of the Capitol Hill User Group with Special Guests Ben Forta, Tim Buntel and Adam Wayne Lehman! RSVP at http://www.capitolhillusergroup.org/ Please join us at the inaugural meeting of the Capitol Hill User Group (CHUG), an Adobe User Group for U.S. Federal Government web developers who use or are interested in using Adobe web development technologies. We'll be focusing on development tools and languages like ColdFusion, Flex, ActionScript and Apollo, but hope to touch on the broader areas of Development Frameworks, XML, Web Services, Design Patterns and Object Oriented Programming in general. Ben Forta, Tim Buntel and Adam Wayne Lehman will be on hand to give us a sneak peak of the next version of ColdFusion: MX8, AKA: Scorpio. All skill levels are welcome! We'll meet in room 138 of the Dirksen Senate Office Building, May 17, from 1 to 3pm. Be sure and RSVP at http://www.capitolhillusergroup.org/ to be notified of any changes. And consider subscribing to the CHUG mailing list at http://groups.google.com/group/capitolhillusergroup to be notified of future happenings. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:278026 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Inaugural Meeting of the Capitol Hill User Group with Special Guests Ben Forta, Tim Buntel and Adam Wayne Lehman!
RSVP at http://www.capitolhillusergroup.org/ Please join us at the inaugural meeting of the Capitol Hill User Group (CHUG), an Adobe User Group for U.S. Federal Government web developers who use or are interested in using Adobe web development technologies. We'll be focusing on development tools and languages like ColdFusion, Flex, ActionScript and Apollo, but hope to touch on the broader areas of Development Frameworks, XML, Web Services, Design Patterns and Object Oriented Programming in general. Ben Forta, Tim Buntel and Adam Wayne Lehman will be on hand to give us a sneak peak of the next version of ColdFusion: MX8, AKA: Scorpio. All skill levels are welcome! We'll meet in room 138 of the Dirksen Senate Office Building, May 17, from 1 to 3pm. Be sure and RSVP at http://www.capitolhillusergroup.org/ to be notified of any changes. And consider subscribing to the CHUG mailing list at http://groups.google.com/group/capitolhillusergroup to be notified of future happenings. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276643 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: getLineNumber()?
Sandra, Dave, Sir Isaac, Thanks for throwing out some ideas. Not an urgent question - just poking around. Thanks - J -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: getLineNumber()? I notice the line number is given in the error scope. Does anyone happen to know whether its possible to grab the line number without throwing (and recovering from) an error? I.E. Something like this 7. 8. 9. CFOUTPUT 10. #getCurrentLineNumber()# 11. /CFOUTPUT 12. 13. outputs: 10 I don't think there's anything built-in to do this - it's figured out by the compiler, I think. However, you could probably write a function or custom tag that (very inefficiently) uses CFFILE to read the file in question, find the number of lines in the file up to the point of that tag, and displays that number. The problem you'd have with this is that there probably wouldn't be any way to reliably output that value more than once without feeding in the instance of the function in each call to it. I.e. #getLineNumber(1)# -- #getLineNumber(2)#, etc... I assume you wouldn't ever use this within a CFC. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:236992 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
getLineNumber()?
I notice the line number is given in the error scope. Does anyone happen to know whether its possible to grab the line number without throwing (and recovering from) an error? I.E. Something like this 7. 8. 9. CFOUTPUT 10. #getCurrentLineNumber()# 11. /CFOUTPUT 12. 13. outputs: 10 -Jason ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:236942 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
SQL syntax for Supertypes-Subtypes AKA Circular Reference AKA Entity Tree
Hello, Here's a puzzle for all you 'Joe Celko' types: Am trying to figure out how to do on SQL Server something I can do in Oracle. I think this problem is variously known as Subtypes-Supertypes, Circular Reference, Entity Tree, etc... Given this data: Columns: iEntityID, iSubEntityOf, sName 1 1 Mary 2 2 1 Fritz 3 3 1 John 4 4 2 Abu 5 5 2 Ludwig 6 6 3 Abigail 7 7 3 Josef 8 8 6 Mark 9 9 6 Ben 10 10 6 Habib 11 11 9 Paul 12 12 11 Mahatma I want to graphically represent the tree in this data - i.e. Mary is the boss; Fritz and John report to Mary; Abu and Ludwig report to Fritz; etc... The important thing is that the SubEntityOf column is kind of a foreign key to the primary key EntityID, such that the tree can be infinitely deep. I used to be able to do this in Oracle using: CFQUERY NAME=GetEntities DATASOURCE=MyDatasource SELECT iEntityID, iSubEntityOf, sName FROM Mytable WHERE NOT iEntityID START WITH iEntityID=1 CONNECT BY PRIOR iEntityID=iSubEntityOf /CFQUERY But I can't use these functions in SQL Server... Thanks! -Jason ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: Congressional Data
Hey Chuck, The House maintains http://xml.house.gov/Members/mbr107.xml but I don't know where the 108th congress is. We have http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.xml We are working towards publishing web services out to our constituents. -Jason --- Jason Blum Senior Information Technology Specialist Enterprise Systems Support U.S. Senate Sergeant at Arms Washington D.C. 20510-7294 Tel.: (202) 224-4425 Pager: (202) 224-7889 #0073 --- Subject: Congressional Data From: Chuck Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messagesthreadid =0forumid=4#134110 Hi, I did that and searching for congress data or congressional data did not turn up anything. Chuck Rodgers - Original Message - From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Congressional Data I seem to recall this data being asked for a year or so ago on this list.might want to check the archives Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Chuck Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:46 AM Subject: OT: Congressional Data Hi, I am working with an association that wants to do some advocacy work with their members. We are looking for data for zip codes and congressional districts to do lookups for Representatives in Congress. Anyone have any experience finding this kind of data? Thanks Chuck Rodgers ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Overlapping Security Sandboxes in MX?
Hey Richard, It's definitely not a looney idea. I have been wondering the same thing. -J Subject: Overlapping Security Sandboxes in MX? From: Richard Heiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messagesthreadid =26634forumid=4#133924 Hello! I teach a few ColdFusion classes and have to admin the CF Server in a lab I share with other instructors. I am thrilled with MX's security sandboxes but profoundly disappointed by the folks at MM apparently missing what to me seems like the next obvious step: overlapping security sandboxes: sandboxes that don't necessarily override extensions that are called by their local templates: Templates in Security Sandbox A are denied access to resource C. But templates in sandbox A can invoke or call or include templates in security sandbox B which are granted access resource C. So each student codes in a sandbox that has alone access to some resource. And their assignment is to first expose that resource to classmates as a CFC, and second to invoke everyone else's CFC's. But think also about the implications for coordinating a team of developers: everyone works on his or her own black box and is essentially forced to build off each others' code because they are not able to access certain core resources in their own code. So far, none of this can be achieved except via web services. All code called, invoked or included by a template is subject to THAT template's local security sandbox settings. Sigh... So what does everyone think? Would this be totally amazing? Or is it just looney? Anyone have any idea how I might bounce this off someone up at MM? Cheers! -Richard ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: clarification
Brian Simmons at CentraSoft.com is always quick to respond if you have any concerns about their questions. -j -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: clarification Does anyone know what this will output and why? #5 * True + yes - (Y 'Es')# Possible answers are: 0, 1, 5, Yes, An Error Will Be Shown ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: An ISP's Dream: Extensions in one sandbox, client code in another
Hey Jochem, Really appreciate your thoughts on this... Suppose you do want all of your students to be able to experiment with CFML. You want them to learn about SQL perhaps within the confines of QoQ. But you know they come and go every year and aren't around long enough to learn advanced best practices. SO you do things like enforce strict tag attributes and have CFAdmin check all locks. But they're not really ready to write complex stored procedures and outer joins with nested selects or something. So, you package these in custom tags and disable their CFQUERY to prevent them from even trying it. CFML is so wonderful because it is so easy to pick up. But it is powerful and as the language evolves, it might be helpful to make the security framework even more flexible to allow a campus ISP to perhaps host tiered contribution groups. (If you hang my server, you get bumped down to the novice group where you can only call custom tags...) Am trying to think of better examples. Again, thanks. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: An ISP's Dream: Extensions in one sandbox, client code in another Blum, Jason (SAA) wrote: Yes, the CFEXECUTE was a bad example. Suppose instead you hosted all a University's various colleges' websites on one server. Make that fraternities and student societies and I do :-) None of them had particularly good developers and instead of teaching them all SQL and relational database theory You would be surprised how little CS students know about databases. I much prefer EE students as webmaster :-) you just gave them backend logins to a CMS which you then queried on the front end. You even packaged that query in a custom tag or component. It's all working so well that you now want to discourage new grad students from even trying their own sql queries in their code, but instead to tie only into your custom tag. And this is the part that would not work (at least for us). The thing is that they all have different needs and they all want to integrate with different backend systems. The rowing society wants to tie his user db into a reservation system for the boats. Fraternities want to tie it into a database for bookkeeping the beer. Student houses want to tie it into a system to keep track of who will attend dinner. And they are students, so they want to do it the hard way no matter how easy you make it. How do you keep the calling templates' sandbox restrictions from extending to their use of your custom tag? You don't. Not in the way CF works (but I think it is a Java thing so you might have more luck with C customtags). But in your scenario, why not just install PHPNuke for them and give them the admin password of that? If you don't want them to write code, why not go the whole way and write a content management system and let them use that, don't even give them FTP access to a server. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: An ISP's Dream: Extensions in one sandbox, client code in another
Jochem and Michael, Interesting ideas - thanks! I think I have done a poor job of describing the scenario. Ben Forta's Maybe We Should Try a Separation (CFDJ Vol 4 Issue 10) really got me to thinking: there are so many good reasons for code reuse (faster development time, centralized (policable) code, easier debugging, etc.) But getting developers to tie into existing resources is hopeless, particularly when your community of developers comes and goes and is rarely around long enough to really respond to your efforts to get them to reuse codes and build off each others' functionality. So forget about my scattered scenario and emphasis on databases: just consider this question: How could you set up a server architecture (whether internally via security sandboxes or externally via web service syndication servers) that would encourage a development culture whose members were free to develop however whatever they wanted, but faced strong incentives to first utilize each others' reusable code? Remember two things: First, the community we are considering suffers from frequent turn around. Some of its members are pretty clever - most just want to get something up and aren't always that interested in looking under the hood. Second, Their needs in functionality are generally pretty uniform. Sure they have their own data and different presentation layers. But they all have the same basic poll, announcements, staff directory kinds of features on their website. In other words, one good developer could probably do 95% of all the functionality they need. So how best to not merely advertise what that developer has done, but go further and place strong incentives in their development methodology to consider tying first into that developers' components and other extensions? Seems to me the best way would be to put everyone in one sandbox denied certain tags and ports, etc... but let them all post, per your developers' approval, concise reusable code into another sandbox without restrictions. Think of the implications for users both novice and advanced, for the administrators' responsibility to ensure a secure and available environment! -Jason -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: An ISP's Dream: Extensions in one sandbox, client code in another Michael T. Tangorre wrote: Just plan for it... have two databases running on a server so when one is mangled you can switch to the other one and vice versa Now in a real world situation, resources are limited to some extent or should be anyway. We have long since adopted the position that it is easier to just buy extra harddisks as to set, maintain, measure and enforce quota on disk use, bandwidth use and databases :-) (If university provides you with a bunch of switch ports and power plugs for free, business rules change quite a lot.) Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFC Addressing
Hi Sean, Thank you - I see what you mean. Actually the same is true even within a single instance between multiple security sandboxes. It's such a shame because ISP's would benefit so enormously from the ability to not allow clients to query a database (i.e. restricting it in their sandbox) - but allowing them to invoke a CFC in another sandbox that could query that database. Certainly you can do this invoking the CFC as a Web Service. But invoking it without having to run up and down the protocol stack would be awfully nice! Thanks for your thoughts on this... -Jason -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFC Addressing On Saturday, Aug 2, 2003, at 05:59 US/Pacific, Jason Blum wrote: Does anyone happen to know whether one's calling template and one's CFCs can reside in separate security sandboxes? For instance, could an ISP put all client sites in one default security sandbox with few permissions/tags/etc, but then allow them to tie into CFCs in another sandbox that does have all permissions. This would make security, availability and code reuse realitic goals! The security system is per instance, i.e., each CFMX instance has its own sandbox security. If you had multiple CFMX (for J2EE) instances on a server, you could define the same shared CFC directory as a custom tag path in each instance and therefore reuse CFCs across multiple instances. However, the security applied would be that for each individual CFMX instance, therefore the same CFCs would be subject to potentially different security rules in each CFMX instance. Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
An ISP's Dream: Extensions in one sandbox, client code in another
This question was tacked on to another discussion, but thought I might solicit more feedback by starting its own thread? From an ISP's perspective, would it not be a God-send to put all clients in one big, heavily restricted sandbox (no datasources, etc.) and all datasource-accessing CFC's and other extensions in another sandbox to which only the ISP administrator has posting rights? We would aggressively advertise the contents of the latter to the clients using UDDI or just some kind of MM Exchange kind of catalog. Clients would always be free to develop their own CFC's and extensions, but would rapidly find tying into existing middle layer functionality an increasingly appealing alternative. Or consider a simpler example: You don't want clients CFEXECUTING some local executable. But you do want to allow them to drop into their code a custom tag that can execute that local executable because in that tag you have some logic or something that lets you fix parameters or something. So far, testing suggests the calling template's sandbox restrictions always override anything they call or invoke, except obviously a remote web service - but what a shame to have to go up and down the protocol stack... Have I missed something fundamental or would this not be a boon to ISP's?! -Jason ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: An ISP's Dream: Extensions in one sandbox, client code in another
Hi Jochem, Yes, the CFEXECUTE was a bad example. Suppose instead you hosted all a University's various colleges' websites on one server. None of them had particularly good developers and instead of teaching them all SQL and relational database theory, you just gave them backend logins to a CMS which you then queried on the front end. You even packaged that query in a custom tag or component. It's all working so well that you now want to discourage new grad students from even trying their own sql queries in their code, but instead to tie only into your custom tag. (This may sound very controlling, but the fact is you have no time to play help desk to these kids, they come and go so frequently, why rebuild the wheel when they can reuse code, etc., etc... So you disable CFQUERY in their sandbox, but of course not in the sandbox containing the custom tags... How do you keep the calling templates' sandbox restrictions from extending to their use of your custom tag? -Jason -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: An ISP's Dream: Extensions in one sandbox, client code in another Blum, Jason (SAA) wrote: From an ISP's perspective, would it not be a God-send to put all clients in one big, heavily restricted sandbox (no datasources, etc.) and all datasource-accessing CFC's and other extensions in another sandbox to which only the ISP administrator has posting rights? Apart from the fact that it can't be done because of the Java security model, what does it give you that sandboxes don't give you now? Or consider a simpler example: You don't want clients CFEXECUTING some local executable. With a shared instance that is a very bad idea indeed. But you do want to allow them to drop into their code a custom tag that can execute that local executable because in that tag you have some logic or something that lets you fix parameters or something. I don't really see a reason why customers would want to run any executable at all. And if they want it really bad they can always get hosting running their own instance. Or go up and down the protocol stack. Have I missed something fundamental or would this not be a boon to ISP's?! I would not want to be hosted on a server where I can't write my own logic to access databases and/or the file system. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: grrrrr ... CFSchedule
I have been using probes for all my scheduled tasks since moving up to MX. Probes are under tools in CF5, but I don't know if they offer the same functionality. I realize of course they are probably the same underlying engine - but for some reason, I have not experienced any problem with probes even though they are the same tasks as were not being run as scheduled tasks. Well I have seen one problem - or quirk: probes that I have long since deleted still show up as failing in the MX Application log. I should figure out why, but keeps getting pushed to the back burner given that everything seems to be working fine. -j -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: gr ... CFSchedule I have always tested my schedule scripts by having it email me at the end for testing, and executed it with CFSCHEDULE the first time around just to make sure it was completing. Very helpful when you are on a shared host and do not have access to the admin to make sure it was added correctly -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: gr ... CFSchedule Howard Owens wrote: snip Any suggestions on why the scheduled events trigger but don't produce any results? I've always been able to get it to work, but the formula for success has not always been entirely straightforward. This may sound strange at first, but have you tried waiting for 24 hours to see if the thing kicks in? I've had my server monitor running for months on my home-based cf server. Then I had to fiddle with something in cfschedule (I forget what, exactly) for another task and suddenly the thing went dead as a doornail. Couldn't get it to restart despite tinkering with all kinds of stuff. After a bit I gave up and went on to other things, but was very surprised to see it had fired up again the next day, beginning at the start time of the event -- despite the fact that the starting *date* was in the past. I've also had success using '' action=UPDATE '' in my cfschedule statement. All of the above is for CF 4.5.1sp2. As an aside MX scheduling behaved just fine after an upgrade overtop of cf 4.5x. Shots in the dark, maybe, but who knows... --- Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com - Retail http://foohbar.org - ColdFusion Tools --- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
CFMX hangs periodically
There has been a pretty serious discussion thread going on in the ColdFusion Macromedia Online Forum since October: CFMX hangs periodically: http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=143thr eadid=468954 I'm too new to this community to recognize names of cf-talk participants in the macromedia forums, so I was curious to know whether anybody here has been experiencing problems with CFMX. Maybe I missed such an exchange already. But, I'll try to summarize the CFMX hangs periodically discussion thread: Everybody seems to be running CFMX with at least updater 1 on 2K with SP3. Most are using IIS 5.0. A few people said the problem was IIS and that the webserver that comes bundled with MX was great. Somebody else said they saw the same problems in MX on Linux. Basically, jrun.exe just stops running occasionally. Thread counts on the jrun.exe climbs very high. Handle count also climbs very high. Most report no spiking in CPU or memory or anything except queued requests. There was some of the usual talk about properly locking Application variables and vulnerability to race conditions. But I know I, for one, am not using ANY Application variables right now because I have stripped down my server to running a single application to see if it continues to lock up occasionally - it does. Some have tried scheduling a java garbage collection routine and restarting jrun.exe. Others have reported no success with this solution. Some report a correlation with heavy load. Others, like myself, see no such correlation (as I am typing, my server just locked up again.) I can inflict 2000% plus load testing on my box with no impact on performance. But then I can go home for a few hours and it'll invariably fail before bedtime. Some are using SQL Server - others Oracle. I see that Lee Fuller actually did bring this up in this cf-talk mailing list and according to his post in the forum, solved the issue by going back to ColdFusion 5. -This after working closely with MM support. I guess I am just wondering if that's it... I am really reluctant to do this because many of my applications are built on CFMX components... But maybe abandoning MX is the only solution??? Funny thing is, all of my apps ran just fine on this same configuration for almost two months. Nothing has changed. NOTHING! Anyway, this struck me as a pretty serious issue that Macromedia has not really been addressing - but it seemed to not get much play time on cf-talk so I thought I'd ask whats up? -j ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
CFHTTP URL=https.....
When I added USERAGENT=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) to the CFHTTP tag, I stopped having problems CFHTTP-ing https pages... But now I've got a new https page which keeps failing, though I can see it in any browser. Dumping CFHTTP gives me: FileContent: Connection Failure Text: Yes StatusCode: unavailable Anybody got any idea what I am doing wrong? tx! ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: CF 5 Scheduler fails
I've usually been able to get scheduled tasks to run ok, but they fail eventually, often without anything in the scheduler log, as if their execution was simply forgotten. From what I've heard, the scheduler is widely regarded as pretty unreliable. I've had some success running templates from the NT, 2K or crontab (UNIX) schedulers. The only trick there is that you have to run them in Netscape so that you can include a script to close the window onload. I posted an earlier message inviting recommendations for better solutions - am now scrolling through to see if anyone responded... -J -Original Message- From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:Dave.Bosky;htcinc.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 5 Scheduler fails What's the deal with the scheduler function in cfadmin? Every task I schedule to run fails. BROWSER DATETIME 11/11/02 23:59:36 DETAIL DIAGNOSTICS Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. MESSAGE Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. TEMPLATE C:\CFUSION\SCRIPTS\CFEXECTASK.CFM TYPE COM.ALLAIRE.COLDFUSION.HTTPFAILURE Thanks, Dave HTC Disclaimer: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: CF 5 Scheduler fails
That's rich! We're running MX update 1 on 2K. I'll try it out and report back... -Original Message- From: Ryan Farrell [mailto:farrellt;nuovotech.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF 5 Scheduler fails After getting a few months of support from Allaire, we've been running a weekly-scheduled series of scripts successfully for about a year now. We are CF 5 on Solaris. The trick was to always schedule a task so that the start date was actually a week prior to when you wanted the task to begin. So, if I wanted something to run every Wednesday starting tomorrow, I would enter the task with a start date of last week. I'm not sure if this works for daily or monthly events, but it is the official solution that we received from the Allaire engineers. Ryan -Original Message- From: Blum, Jason (SAA) [mailto:Jason_Blum;saa.senate.gov] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF 5 Scheduler fails I've usually been able to get scheduled tasks to run ok, but they fail eventually, often without anything in the scheduler log, as if their execution was simply forgotten. From what I've heard, the scheduler is widely regarded as pretty unreliable. I've had some success running templates from the NT, 2K or crontab (UNIX) schedulers. The only trick there is that you have to run them in Netscape so that you can include a script to close the window onload. I posted an earlier message inviting recommendations for better solutions - am now scrolling through to see if anyone responded... -J -Original Message- From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:Dave.Bosky;htcinc.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 5 Scheduler fails What's the deal with the scheduler function in cfadmin? Every task I schedule to run fails. BROWSER DATETIME 11/11/02 23:59:36 DETAIL DIAGNOSTICS Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. MESSAGE Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. TEMPLATE C:\CFUSION\SCRIPTS\CFEXECTASK.CFM TYPE COM.ALLAIRE.COLDFUSION.HTTPFAILURE Thanks, Dave HTC Disclaimer: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Referencing component packages
Forta, New Riders and others all say that you can call put all your components in one folder and then reference them just as you would an include, style sheet, whatever. But I am absolutely stumped on how to do this. Have followed their instructions very carefully and played with variations but cannot seem to do it. If /MySite/index.cfm wants to instate /MySite/components/Query.cfc then CFINVOKE COMPONENT=components/Query... works great. But going back up the directory structure, say from: /MySite/admin/index.cfm CFINVOKE COMPONENT=../components/Query... seems to be impossible without setting up a mapping in CFAdmin... I've tried dot notation, forward slashes, backward slashes, from the wwwroot, from the root drive, ExpandPath, etc., etc Anybody know what I am doing wrong??? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Referencing component packages
Yeah, that's what I would have thought. And that's precisely that all the books and MX documentation say. But it isn't working for me... Thanks for the response though! -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:marlon;mcmoyer.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Referencing component packages I believe it should be cfinvoke Component=mySite.components.query Blum, Jason (SAA) wrote: Forta, New Riders and others all say that you can call put all your components in one folder and then reference them just as you would an include, style sheet, whatever. But I am absolutely stumped on how to do this. Have followed their instructions very carefully and played with variations but cannot seem to do it. If /MySite/index.cfm wants to instate /MySite/components/Query.cfc then CFINVOKE COMPONENT=components/Query... works great. But going back up the directory structure, say from: /MySite/admin/index.cfm CFINVOKE COMPONENT=../components/Query... seems to be impossible without setting up a mapping in CFAdmin... I've tried dot notation, forward slashes, backward slashes, from the wwwroot, from the root drive, ExpandPath, etc., etc Anybody know what I am doing wrong??? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: WHYYYYY!!!!!!
Maybe I can jump in on this thread with a related question - Dave and others keep emphasizing that it isn't necessary to lock in MX. I am using a large Application.Array for a number of values and strings which I then loop through to output. The array is being written to and read from at least a dozen times a minute - I do this because I figured it would be best to just keep it in memory given how frequently it gets referenced. But then I keep getting the same symptom - MX freezes up at 100% CPU every four or five hours. Plenty of memory and storage. Again, not locking Application variables because I thought it was unnecessary. So, 1, is it in fact necessary in MX and 2, Is an Application.array the best place to store this kind of thing? Thanks! -Jason -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 1:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: WHY!! i havent used locks on session vars, havent needed to, and having never formally learned cf, not really 100% down with the thought process behind locking session var setting... The thought process is very simple. If you're running CF 5 or earlier, and you're using session variables, and you don't lock them, bad things will happen. Memory variables can be accessed by concurrent requests, and CF doesn't handle that well, by default. While you might not think session variables would be used by concurrent requests, there are many possible cases in which more than one request from the same user might be running concurrently. any good books on that topic? A book would be overkill, just for this topic. If you're using CF 5 or earlier, just follow these simple rules: 1. Dvery time you put Session, Application or Server in your code, use CFLOCK around it. 2. If you're using any version of CF which supports the SCOPE attribute (4.5+, I think), use that with your CFLOCK tags around memory variables. 3. If you're reading a memory variable, use TYPE=READONLY in your CFLOCK; if you may change the variable's value, use TYPE=EXCLUSIVE. 4. There is no rule 4. 5. Reread rule 1. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 : dream :: design :: develop : MXDC 02 :: Join us at this all day conference for designers developers to learn tips, tricks, best practices and more for the entire Macromedia MX suite. September 28, 2002 :: http://www.mxdc02.com/ (Register today, seats are limited!) :: __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF from command line
Ben Forta offers this tip on his website: Invoke ColdFusion From the Command Line: ColdFusion usually processes requests received from clients (such as Web browsers or WAP devices). But should you ever need ColdFusion to process a page without initiating it from a browser you can do so via CF's CGI interface - cfml.exe. Although intended to provide support for Web servers not natively supported by ColdFusion, this command-line program has another use in that it lets you initiate CF requests on demand. http://www.forta.com/cf/tips/index.cfm?age=666 ..Is this not available in MX? __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Help troubleshooting MX freezing up each day
Hey all! Just wondering if anyone might have any suggestions on what to look for in troubleshooting why my MX server freezes up each day. (Win 2K, 1 GB RAM, tons of free HD space - a brand new system.) It's a dedicated server, only this one application running. It is a kind of Enterprise monitoring system. Ten templates each contain various tests, like HTTP requests, directory counts, etc. The results of each test are saved to a large 2-d Application.array. The results are also appended to a log file. All templates are scheduled tasks which run every five minutes, rarely simultaneously as their schedules are offset by a minute. Users request another template which just loops through that Application.array to output all the test results in one place. This page also has javascript to refresh every 4 minutes. Not using CFAdmin scheduler because too unstable. Instead, Windows 2000 Scheduled tasks HTTP requests all templates through Netscape (because Netscape permits Javascript to close window on pageload). No datasources - all just Application variables and reading and writing to files. Very little traffic - less than an average of 5 requests a minute. There are a couple client variables to toggle alarm on and off and other preferences. No session variables. Whole system works great but just freezes up an average of once every other day (never at the same time) - Restarting the MX server is all I can do. I am not locking Application variables because I thought it was unnecessary in MX. The only thing I can think of is that every once in a while, two templates just happen to append to the same log file at the same time? Or maybe you do have to lock Application variables? I know there are probably a million things to look at - perhaps someone could direct me to some good documentation on the subject? I've looked everywhere I can think of... Thank you so much for any help anyone can provide! -Jason __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Help troubleshooting MX freezing up each day
Thanks Marius - I agree and have added locks around file reads and writes - will see how it works... One follow up question though: I was under the impression that MX locks file and variables reads/writes automatically. And indeed, Page 187 of CFML Reference says In the ColdFusion Administrator, Server section, the Locking page sets locking options according to scope... I don't see any such section - does anyone know what they are talking about? I thought I was pretty familiar with the adminterface but don't see this anywhere... -jason -Original Message- From: Marius Milosav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Help troubleshooting MX freezing up each day While locking the applications doesn't hurt, I think you should lock the cffile process (with named locks) when writing to the log file. This way you are single threading access to the file. Marius Milosav www.scorpiosoft.com It's not about technology, it's about people. Virtual Company (VICO) Application Demo www.scorpiosoft.com/vicodemo/login.cfm - Original Message - From: Blum, Jason (SAA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: Help troubleshooting MX freezing up each day Hey all! Just wondering if anyone might have any suggestions on what to look for in troubleshooting why my MX server freezes up each day. (Win 2K, 1 GB RAM, tons of free HD space - a brand new system.) It's a dedicated server, only this one application running. It is a kind of Enterprise monitoring system. Ten templates each contain various tests, like HTTP requests, directory counts, etc. The results of each test are saved to a large 2-d Application.array. The results are also appended to a log file. All templates are scheduled tasks which run every five minutes, rarely simultaneously as their schedules are offset by a minute. Users request another template which just loops through that Application.array to output all the test results in one place. This page also has javascript to refresh every 4 minutes. Not using CFAdmin scheduler because too unstable. Instead, Windows 2000 Scheduled tasks HTTP requests all templates through Netscape (because Netscape permits Javascript to close window on pageload). No datasources - all just Application variables and reading and writing to files. Very little traffic - less than an average of 5 requests a minute. There are a couple client variables to toggle alarm on and off and other preferences. No session variables. Whole system works great but just freezes up an average of once every other day (never at the same time) - Restarting the MX server is all I can do. I am not locking Application variables because I thought it was unnecessary in MX. The only thing I can think of is that every once in a while, two templates just happen to append to the same log file at the same time? Or maybe you do have to lock Application variables? I know there are probably a million things to look at - perhaps someone could direct me to some good documentation on the subject? I've looked everywhere I can think of... Thank you so much for any help anyone can provide! -Jason __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Is it necessary to parse XML in order to use it as a dat
I'm trying to code for both MX and 5 -Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Internet Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:02 PM To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Internet Subject: RE: Is it necessary to parse XML in order to use it as a dat What version CF you using? -- Original Message -- From: Blum, Jason (SAA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:35:00 -0400 Another newbie question: I am just trying to figure out how this whole xml thing works - I keep seeing examples of serializing in WDDX in which the sample code creates a text file like: ?xml version=1.0 ? contact_information person last_nameBlum/last_name first_nameJason/first_name /person person last_nameCostanza/last_name first_nameGoerge/first_name /person /contact_information and then serializes it... and then takes output and deserializes it back into a structure. At what point does this involve parsing Isn't WDDX just recognizing the beginning and end tags and forming a structure out of them dumbly without being aware of what those tags mean? That's all I'm after because then I can loop through the structure and output it different ways... I guess I understood the whole point of XML to be to allow the client to do that outputting in different ways but since I can't assume the client is the latest version of IE, I figured I should do it for them by hitting the server. When I hear talk of installing a parser in ColdFusion, my head spins, particularly because all I want to do is access this xml file like a datasource and I know I could just write a custom tag to create a structure out of the fields... That said, I know I am missing the point so I figured who better to ask then the cf community! Thanks for your help! -Jason __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Is it necessary to parse XML in order to use it as a datasou
Another newbie question: I am just trying to figure out how this whole xml thing works - I keep seeing examples of serializing in WDDX in which the sample code creates a text file like: ?xml version=1.0 ? contact_information person last_nameBlum/last_name first_nameJason/first_name /person person last_nameCostanza/last_name first_nameGoerge/first_name /person /contact_information and then serializes it... and then takes output and deserializes it back into a structure. At what point does this involve parsing Isn't WDDX just recognizing the beginning and end tags and forming a structure out of them dumbly without being aware of what those tags mean? That's all I'm after because then I can loop through the structure and output it different ways... I guess I understood the whole point of XML to be to allow the client to do that outputting in different ways but since I can't assume the client is the latest version of IE, I figured I should do it for them by hitting the server. When I hear talk of installing a parser in ColdFusion, my head spins, particularly because all I want to do is access this xml file like a datasource and I know I could just write a custom tag to create a structure out of the fields... That said, I know I am missing the point so I figured who better to ask then the cf community! Thanks for your help! -Jason __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
*** Scheduled Tasks in CFAdministrator ***
Hello all! Has anyone else had trouble with the reliability of scheduled tasks in CFAdministrator? I am running nine of them, all more or less identical (just simple HTTP requests to make sure certain servers are up and running), repeating every half hour. And they pretty much work fine, except that every day or two, one (never the same one) stops running for hours. According to the scheduler log, it just literally stops being executed. I guess I could schedule them in Windows 2000 task scheduler, but I don't know how to do that for a specific URL - anybody? Thanks! -Jason __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
