RE: In need of CF training, your opinions
> My team is in need of some advanced CF training, and I'd like > to get people's opinions, reviews of any courses they've had. > > Google turns up a few examples, some of them nearby, some > not. A few of these offer a 3-day Advanced CFMX course, and I > want to know if it's the same course taught everwyere or if > there are differences. Also, if anybody has taken this > course, what did you think about it? > > roundpeg.com > ledet.com > scottantall.com > figleaf.com > accelebrate.com > bluestarlearning.com The course is the same at every Adobe Authorized Training Center. If you can find the trainer on adobe.com, they're an authorized training center. I'm an instructor who teaches that course. My own observation about the course is that it's hard to define "advanced". For some people, the content of the course is overwhelmingly difficult. For others, it's quite easy. People have different ideas about what's advanced and what isn't. So, you should definitely look at the course outline to see if it covers what you need to know. http://training.figleaf.com/Courses/Advanced_ColdFusion_Training.cfm I would like to note that the Advanced CFMX 8 course was developed for Adobe by Fig Leaf Software. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners http://training.figleaf.com/ WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR developers! http://www.webmaniacsconference.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304565 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: In need of CF training, your opinions
alan rogers wrote: > https://www.roundpeg.com/home.cfm?main=training&Action=classinfo&classid=209 That appears to be the official Advanced ColdFusion Developer course (ACFD100) from Adobe. It should be the same in every training center, except if you fly over to the Netherlands you can get me as your instructor :) Jochem ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:302763 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: In need of CF training, your opinions
Sounds all fair enough. Figure I would just ask the question ;o) Never know what people really mean when they say 'advanced' Mark On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:58 PM, alan rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mark > > My team has never had any formal CF training, and there are a lot of things > we are being asked to do now that we just kind of have to figure out on our > own. Everybody on my team learned CF on the fly at some point a long time > ago, and we grow and learn new things occasionally, but I think we're way > behind the curve there. No time just to play around, we just learn as we're > forced to do it .. like webservices and component objects for example. > > If you look here: > https://www.roundpeg.com/home.cfm?main=training&Action=classinfo&classid=209 > > It's a 3-day "advanced" CF course. I think my guys could benefit from a lot > of these things. We already know something about a lot of these, but its all > trial and error. Some formal instruction would be good to improve our > applications and really understand how to use more advanced features > available in CF 7/8. > > Yes, I'd like to get them to frameworks also, particularly fusebox 5.5, but > that never seems to be included together with such things as cfcomponent > objects, webservices, flex, flash forms etc. > > > From: Mark Mandel > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:12:23 +1100 > > > Alan, > > When you say 'advanced', what do you mean? > > Do you mean just advanced features? (not even sure what that means), > or do you mean things like Framework training? > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:302558 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
In need of CF training, your opinions
Hi Mark My team has never had any formal CF training, and there are a lot of things we are being asked to do now that we just kind of have to figure out on our own. Everybody on my team learned CF on the fly at some point a long time ago, and we grow and learn new things occasionally, but I think we're way behind the curve there. No time just to play around, we just learn as we're forced to do it .. like webservices and component objects for example. If you look here: https://www.roundpeg.com/home.cfm?main=training&Action=classinfo&classid=209 It's a 3-day "advanced" CF course. I think my guys could benefit from a lot of these things. We already know something about a lot of these, but its all trial and error. Some formal instruction would be good to improve our applications and really understand how to use more advanced features available in CF 7/8. Yes, I'd like to get them to frameworks also, particularly fusebox 5.5, but that never seems to be included together with such things as cfcomponent objects, webservices, flex, flash forms etc. From: Mark Mandel Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:12:23 +1100 Alan, When you say 'advanced', what do you mean? Do you mean just advanced features? (not even sure what that means), or do you mean things like Framework training? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:302557 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: In need of CF training, your opinions
Paul, can you tell me a little more about why you like that? On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM, cf-talk > > Subject: In need of CF training, your opinions > From: Paul Ihrig > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:31:45 -0400 > Thread: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:55855#302533 > > figleaf > -- One must know that one is not in order to be able to understand that we are. -- Wei Wu Wei ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:302547 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: In need of CF training, your opinions
Alan, When you say 'advanced', what do you mean? Do you mean just advanced features? (not even sure what that means), or do you mean things like Framework training? If it's the latter there are several groups out there that do that sort of thing, I believe FireMoss and Alagad do MG training, I can't remember if anyone does ColdSpring training, and I'm not sure if Luis does ColdBox training, but it would be worth pinging him. I'm pretty sure that GretaBizTools provides MachII training. I'll be starting to write up the Transfer curriculum after cf.Objective(), so that will hopefully soon be available as well. Mark On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:21 AM, alan rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My team is in need of some advanced CF training, and I'd like to get people's > opinions, reviews of any courses they've had. > > Google turns up a few examples, some of them nearby, some not. A few of > these offer a 3-day Advanced CFMX course, and I want to know if it's the same > course taught everwyere or if there are differences. Also, if anybody has > taken this course, what did you think about it? > > > roundpeg.com > ledet.com > scottantall.com > figleaf.com > accelebrate.com > bluestarlearning.com > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:302545 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: In need of CF training, your opinions
We subscribe to Lynda.com. Lots of subjects but the training is not lead by a live teacher so you cannot ask questions. It is very affordable though. I recently did the flex training and learned a lot! -Original Message- From: alan rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: In need of CF training, your opinions My team is in need of some advanced CF training, and I'd like to get people's opinions, reviews of any courses they've had. Google turns up a few examples, some of them nearby, some not. A few of these offer a 3-day Advanced CFMX course, and I want to know if it's the same course taught everwyere or if there are differences. Also, if anybody has taken this course, what did you think about it? roundpeg.com ledet.com scottantall.com figleaf.com accelebrate.com bluestarlearning.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:302534 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: In need of CF training, your opinions
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In need of CF training, your opinions
My team is in need of some advanced CF training, and I'd like to get people's opinions, reviews of any courses they've had. Google turns up a few examples, some of them nearby, some not. A few of these offer a 3-day Advanced CFMX course, and I want to know if it's the same course taught everwyere or if there are differences. Also, if anybody has taken this course, what did you think about it? roundpeg.com ledet.com scottantall.com figleaf.com accelebrate.com bluestarlearning.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:302523 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF training
Aye, been there done that, just thought somebody from the area might be aware of something new available here. Bob > -Original Message- > From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:45 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF training > > Go to the adobe site and they should have a listing of classes... > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Bob Imperial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:06 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF training > > Does anyone out there know of any instructor led CF courses in the > Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill area of NC? > > Bob > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281117 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF training
Go to the adobe site and they should have a listing of classes... Eric -Original Message- From: Bob Imperial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF training Does anyone out there know of any instructor led CF courses in the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill area of NC? Bob ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281094 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
CF training
Does anyone out there know of any instructor led CF courses in the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill area of NC? Bob ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281010 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF Training Resources in Florida
> A project manager friend of mine just got hired at a Florida government > IT position. Their shop uses ColdFusion and the developers there are in > need of professional level CF training and he contacted me asking about > resources for CF training. Their location is in Tallahassee. Is anyone > aware of CF training resources in that area? Has your friend considered onsite training? If you have enough people, this can be considerably less expensive, and somewhat tailored to your specific environment. I just returned from onsite CF training in Florida, actually. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore and Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254247 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF Training Resources in Florida
Howdy, A project manager friend of mine just got hired at a Florida government IT position. Their shop uses ColdFusion and the developers there are in need of professional level CF training and he contacted me asking about resources for CF training. Their location is in Tallahassee. Is anyone aware of CF training resources in that area? Thanks. -- Chris Montgomery ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF training in Akron/Cleveland
Anyone know of places in Akron or Cleveland that provide Cold Fusion training? Thanks, Chad ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:244988 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CF Training
Hi All, Just a shot in the dark here but I'd like to take an advanced CF Training in the Toronto area but thery need at least 3 persons to give the class and we are only 2 registered right now.. and we were 2 in montreal but they need 5 to give the class in montreal so we accepted to go to toronto... So I'm trying the list to see if there is no one willing to take that course so it will happen... The course is with Northern Objects (http://www.northernobjects.com/assets/Files/adcf.txt) and is on the 28th of june in Toronto for 3 days (it was on the 21st of june in montreal) Thanks and sorry for the off topic Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
OT: onsite CF training recommendations
I have recently started a new job with a great company. Some of my team members have come up through the ranks of the company and we would like to get them some solid CF foundation training. We prefer on site. If any of you have had good experiences with a training outfit, please send me their info off list. Thanks!! ~~ Stephenie Hamilton UPS World Wide Logistics Internation Shipment Resolution Application Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: CF Training
> What is the general consensus about who has the best > CF training? Why, of course, that would be Fig Leaf Software (http://training.figleaf.com/), according to the CFDJ Readers Choice Awards: http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/CFDJRCA.pdf Seriously, though, I don't really know of any general consensus beyond that. I like to think that we offer very good training, of course. It would be pretty convenient for you, also, if you're in the DC office. If you're in Kansas or Arizona, well, consider it a busman's holiday! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
CF Training
I am still learning CF, but I would like to take some training courses to become better acquainted with how to better utilize CF in my code. My new boss is an ASP programmer and would like it (if she had it her way) to sway me from coding in CF to coding in ASP. I happen to think CF is easier than anything else I have worked with, so I would like to continue to use it for most of my web pages and applications. What is the general consensus about who has the best CF training? Thanks, Aimee Clark Web Developer Stinson Morrison Hecker LLP 816-691-3461 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: in need of CF training docs
There is an Macromedia interactive skillbuilding CD available - its quite good Paul Melanophy Web Applications Developer 133 - 137 Lisburn Road Belfast N. Ireland BT9 7AG T +44 (0) 28 9022 3224 F +44 (0) 28 9022 3223 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] W http://www.biznet-solutions.com -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 March 2002 17:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: in need of CF training docs The best way I have found is just using the product documentation in CF 5 http://127.0.0.1/cfdocs/Developing_ColdFusion_Applications/contents.htm "Success is a journey, not a destination!!" Doug Brown - Original Message - From: "Greg Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: in need of CF training docs > I am going to be training 3 VB programmers at my work on how to use > ColdFusion 5, and before I make up my own tutorial, I was wondering if > anyone had any training docs. Any advice on a training method or approach is > welcome as well. Thanks! > === === > Greg Jordan > Unified Health Services > Web Project Manager > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 51 Germantown Court > Cordova, TN 38018 > PH - (901) 843-2667 x261 > FAX - (901) 843-2672 > > > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: in need of CF training docs
The best way I have found is just using the product documentation in CF 5 http://127.0.0.1/cfdocs/Developing_ColdFusion_Applications/contents.htm "Success is a journey, not a destination!!" Doug Brown - Original Message - From: "Greg Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: in need of CF training docs > I am going to be training 3 VB programmers at my work on how to use > ColdFusion 5, and before I make up my own tutorial, I was wondering if > anyone had any training docs. Any advice on a training method or approach is > welcome as well. Thanks! > === > Greg Jordan > Unified Health Services > Web Project Manager > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 51 Germantown Court > Cordova, TN 38018 > PH - (901) 843-2667 x261 > FAX - (901) 843-2672 > > > __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
in need of CF training docs
I am going to be training 3 VB programmers at my work on how to use ColdFusion 5, and before I make up my own tutorial, I was wondering if anyone had any training docs. Any advice on a training method or approach is welcome as well. Thanks! Greg Jordan Unified Health Services Web Project Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 51 Germantown Court Cordova, TN 38018 PH - (901) 843-2667 x261 FAX - (901) 843-2672 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Good CF training/conference/seminar?
Ryan, I asked some of the people who attended the first class to email you directly with their feedback on the class. (I don't know if they are subscribed to CF-Talk or not.) Hal Helms == See ColdFusionTraining.com for info on "Best Practices with ColdFusion & Fusebox" training == -Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Good CF training/conference/seminar? Can anyone who has been to several ColdFusion seminars recommend a good one? I'm looking at "Best Practices with ColdFusion and Fusebox", is this a good one? I tried searching the archives to see what people were saying about it, but all I could find is Hal's signature. >:| Also considering cf_west, but I don't really have any idea what the agenda is there. Trying to get the best/most training for my buck. Not looking for beginner stuff, either. Thanks for any info. Ryan ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Good CF training/conference/seminar?
Can anyone who has been to several ColdFusion seminars recommend a good one? I'm looking at "Best Practices with ColdFusion and Fusebox", is this a good one? I tried searching the archives to see what people were saying about it, but all I could find is Hal's signature. >:| Also considering cf_west, but I don't really have any idea what the agenda is there. Trying to get the best/most training for my buck. Not looking for beginner stuff, either. Thanks for any info. Ryan ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Online CF training!
I've just launched a new tool on SecretAgents.com: Online CF Training that EVERY CF developer can afford! $10 for a years subscription, view as many viewlets as you want. It's easier than watching TV, and cheaper! http://www.secretagents.com/products/index.cfm?fuseaction=product&product_id=6 Steve Nelson Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CF Training?
Hi, Anyone know where I can take these classes in Charlotte, NC? Thanks, Mike Wilson Leo Schuman wrote: > > Hi all, > > In the interest of full disclosure, I'll state up front that I'm an > Allaire Certified Instructor, and am V.P. of Technical Services for > DevTech, an Allaire Authorized Training Center and Allaire Premier > Partner with offices in Portland and Seattle. > The folks at Allaire put together a very solid curriculum. > > Your mileage, of course, may vary ... and I regularly plug Forta's > books in my classes (one o' these days I'm gonna ask him for a > kickback! ). It all comes down to how *you* learn best. > > Leo Schuman, JD > V.P. Technical Services > Advanced Allaire Certified Instructor > DevTech, Inc. > > http://www.dev-tech.com > > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a >message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. > > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a >message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. > > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a >message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Michael C. Wilson, CTO - Xion Media P - 704.398.2454 / F - 704.398.2063 http://www.xionmedia.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: CF Training?
Dude! I'll got get certified if you can bring me over before the Olympics! :) Just kidding... -Kev > -Original Message- > From: Nick Slay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 12:55 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CF Training? > > > Sorry.. I missed the original posting so don't know where you are > based... > but if you're in Australia then drop me a line!! We're looking for > someone to can train in CF!! > > > > > At 21:43 4/06/00 -0700, you wrote: > >Sharon, > > > >Truer words were never spoken!.. As a company that has recently been very > >agressive in hiring CF folke, I can tell you that a URL is worth > a thousand > >words. High school dropout? No problem. If you've got the "stuff", then > >companies like ours overlook that kinda stuff.. :) > > > >Gregory > > > >--- > >annex.com, Inc. - http://www.annex.com/ > >--- > >- If you EcoBuild it, they will come. - > >- http://www.ecobuilder.com/ - > >--- > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Sharon DiOrio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:38 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: CF Training? > > > > > > > > > My recommendation to anyone wanting to get more into CF is to find a > > > company that specializes in it. It's the only way you'll get > > > to see what > > > CF is really capable of. Most corporations don't use 1/10th of the CF > > > power available to them. I believe that in order to get > > > really good with > > > the software, you'll need to be challenged by people wanting > > > more than you > > > can deliver, and surrounded by people who can show you how > > > it's done. I > > > won't say that you can't get good learning by yourself, but > > > it takes a lot > > > more effort on your part. > > > > > > Check out the Allaire Partners on the allaire website. I'm > > > sure there is > > > one near you. When you interview, tell them exactly what > > > you're looking > > > for: an opportunity to become a CF guru. Most of them will > > > be thrilled to > > > talk to you. And these days, having URLs means a lot more > > > than a degree. > > > > > > If actually changing jobs isn't an option now, then join your > > > nearest CFUG. > > > Network your hiney off and find a couple of "coding > > > partners" who would be > > > willing to share ideas, code, and provide a CF sounding board. > > > > > > Sharon > >- > - > >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > >To Unsubscribe visit > >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/c f_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in >the body. === Nick Slay Technical Director Webbods Pty Ltd (ACN 086 160 189) PO Box 4047 Copacabana NSW 2251 Tel:02 4381 0284 Mob:0414 810284 === Join the BodNews mailing list for News/Announcements and Offers from Webbods. Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'subscribe bodnews' in the subject line. === Proud Sponsors of the Northern Eagles NRL Side 2000!!! -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CF Training?
Hi all! I really appreciate all the info from those who responded to my original post. I have decided to take the Advanced CF course this summer in Seattle (my husband and I live north of Seattle). It will be well worth the investment and also nice to have certified professionals to answer questions pertaining to the advanced material. I am looking forward to an exciting career in CF. Please feel free to lend any further advice to my email address. Regards, Christine [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Leo Schuman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 7:50 PM Subject: CF Training? > Hi all, > > In the interest of full disclosure, I'll state up front that I'm an > Allaire Certified Instructor, and am V.P. of Technical Services for > DevTech, an Allaire Authorized Training Center and Allaire Premier > Partner with offices in Portland and Seattle. This means I know a lot > about the classes, and have a financial interest in promoting them. > And, I believe I have a relevant perspective to share here. > > Ben Forta's books are a great way to learn *IF* you have the time and > discipline to work through them, cover to cover. The Allaire courses > (the "basic" Fast Track to ColdFusion, and Advanced ColdFusion > Development) cover much, though not all, of what these books have to > offer, in 3 days each. > > To me, the "how should I go about learning ColdFusion" question has two > main angles: > > Learning Style - are you disciplined enough to hit the books and work > them hard, evenings and weekends, by yourself while holding down > another job? Many people learn better in a classroom environment, > where topics can be presented and absorbed in a logical flow of bite- > size chunks, during a three day period set aside to focus on taking in > new information. > > Cost - for you, is it less expensive to buy a book, and then devote a > few months of evening and weekend work to get up to speed, or is it a > more cost-effective use of your time to attend an intense classroom > experience and get the core skills under your belt in about a week? > > The Allaire courses are "intense" according to virtually all student > feedback I've ever received (I've taught close to 200 students, with > another round beginning tomorrow morning), which is why my company has > a second-round "re-audit" policy. Sometimes once is not enough, as > there's a LOT in these classes. But, my students leave with a solid > toolbelt of useful ColdFusion techniques strapped around their waist. > The folks at Allaire put together a very solid curriculum. > > Your mileage, of course, may vary ... and I regularly plug Forta's > books in my classes (one o' these days I'm gonna ask him for a > kickback! ). It all comes down to how *you* learn best. > > Leo Schuman, JD > V.P. Technical Services > Advanced Allaire Certified Instructor > DevTech, Inc. > > http://www.dev-tech.com > > > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. > -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CF Training?
I love this thread. And I appreciate the advice and encouragement from the ones of you farther down the road. Could someone comment on how to interpret the jobs listings we find online? I personally am ready to find a great company to work for, but the listings I find tend to put up some awfully steep requirements, including all sorts of other experience besides CF. Like many, I've dabbled with Perl, CGI, ASP and half a dozen authoring programs. But it's intimidating to think a company is wanting strong skills in all of these. More comments, please! Thanks, John Allred "Gregory Gooden (Annex)" wrote: > > Sharon, > > Truer words were never spoken!.. As a company that has recently been very > agressive in hiring CF folke, I can tell you that a URL is worth a thousand > words. High school dropout? No problem. If you've got the "stuff", then > companies like ours overlook that kinda stuff.. :) > > Gregory > > --- > annex.com, Inc. - http://www.annex.com/ > --- > - If you EcoBuild it, they will come. - > - http://www.ecobuilder.com/ - > --- > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sharon DiOrio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:38 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CF Training? > > > > > > My recommendation to anyone wanting to get more into CF is to find a > > company that specializes in it. It's the only way you'll get > > to see what > > CF is really capable of. Most corporations don't use 1/10th of the CF > > power available to them. I believe that in order to get > > really good with > > the software, you'll need to be challenged by people wanting > > more than you > > can deliver, and surrounded by people who can show you how > > it's done. I > > won't say that you can't get good learning by yourself, but > > it takes a lot > > more effort on your part. > > > > Check out the Allaire Partners on the allaire website. I'm > > sure there is > > one near you. When you interview, tell them exactly what > > you're looking > > for: an opportunity to become a CF guru. Most of them will > > be thrilled to > > talk to you. And these days, having URLs means a lot more > > than a degree. > > > > If actually changing jobs isn't an option now, then join your > > nearest CFUG. > > Network your hiney off and find a couple of "coding > > partners" who would be > > willing to share ideas, code, and provide a CF sounding board. > > > > Sharon > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a >message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- John Allred / Jackson, Mississippi Mississippi Counties http://www.mscounties.com/ -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
CF Training?
Hi all, In the interest of full disclosure, I'll state up front that I'm an Allaire Certified Instructor, and am V.P. of Technical Services for DevTech, an Allaire Authorized Training Center and Allaire Premier Partner with offices in Portland and Seattle. This means I know a lot about the classes, and have a financial interest in promoting them. And, I believe I have a relevant perspective to share here. Ben Forta's books are a great way to learn *IF* you have the time and discipline to work through them, cover to cover. The Allaire courses (the "basic" Fast Track to ColdFusion, and Advanced ColdFusion Development) cover much, though not all, of what these books have to offer, in 3 days each. To me, the "how should I go about learning ColdFusion" question has two main angles: Learning Style - are you disciplined enough to hit the books and work them hard, evenings and weekends, by yourself while holding down another job? Many people learn better in a classroom environment, where topics can be presented and absorbed in a logical flow of bite- size chunks, during a three day period set aside to focus on taking in new information. Cost - for you, is it less expensive to buy a book, and then devote a few months of evening and weekend work to get up to speed, or is it a more cost-effective use of your time to attend an intense classroom experience and get the core skills under your belt in about a week? The Allaire courses are "intense" according to virtually all student feedback I've ever received (I've taught close to 200 students, with another round beginning tomorrow morning), which is why my company has a second-round "re-audit" policy. Sometimes once is not enough, as there's a LOT in these classes. But, my students leave with a solid toolbelt of useful ColdFusion techniques strapped around their waist. The folks at Allaire put together a very solid curriculum. Your mileage, of course, may vary ... and I regularly plug Forta's books in my classes (one o' these days I'm gonna ask him for a kickback! ). It all comes down to how *you* learn best. Leo Schuman, JD V.P. Technical Services Advanced Allaire Certified Instructor DevTech, Inc. http://www.dev-tech.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CF Training?
Thank-you all for the response!! It's very encouraging and sound advise all around. Thanks again, Christine > Join a startup or any firm that will take you as a web developer (HTML, > CFML, SQL, VB, etc). Ideally they will already have a senior CF developer > that you can pick up a few things from. You'll want to get at least 12-18 > months under your belt after which you can pick which company you want to > join. In my case I came from an econ background, took 8 months of classes in > C/C++ at GWU, and was asked up by a startup web firm/friends to do HTML, ASP > and CF.. so basically self taught as are a lot of people here. Just remember > not to shy away from the challenging stuff, or stuff you haven't done. Thats > where you learn the most. > -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: CF Training?
Sorry.. I missed the original posting so don't know where you are based... but if you're in Australia then drop me a line!! We're looking for someone to can train in CF!! At 21:43 4/06/00 -0700, you wrote: >Sharon, > >Truer words were never spoken!.. As a company that has recently been very >agressive in hiring CF folke, I can tell you that a URL is worth a thousand >words. High school dropout? No problem. If you've got the "stuff", then >companies like ours overlook that kinda stuff.. :) > >Gregory > >--- >annex.com, Inc. - http://www.annex.com/ >--- >- If you EcoBuild it, they will come. - >- http://www.ecobuilder.com/ - >--- > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sharon DiOrio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:38 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CF Training? > > > > > > My recommendation to anyone wanting to get more into CF is to find a > > company that specializes in it. It's the only way you'll get > > to see what > > CF is really capable of. Most corporations don't use 1/10th of the CF > > power available to them. I believe that in order to get > > really good with > > the software, you'll need to be challenged by people wanting > > more than you > > can deliver, and surrounded by people who can show you how > > it's done. I > > won't say that you can't get good learning by yourself, but > > it takes a lot > > more effort on your part. > > > > Check out the Allaire Partners on the allaire website. I'm > > sure there is > > one near you. When you interview, tell them exactly what > > you're looking > > for: an opportunity to become a CF guru. Most of them will > > be thrilled to > > talk to you. And these days, having URLs means a lot more > > than a degree. > > > > If actually changing jobs isn't an option now, then join your > > nearest CFUG. > > Network your hiney off and find a couple of "coding > > partners" who would be > > willing to share ideas, code, and provide a CF sounding board. > > > > Sharon >-- >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk >To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in >the body. === Nick Slay Technical Director Webbods Pty Ltd (ACN 086 160 189) PO Box 4047 Copacabana NSW 2251 Tel:02 4381 0284 Mob:0414 810284 === Join the BodNews mailing list for News/Announcements and Offers from Webbods. Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'subscribe bodnews' in the subject line. === Proud Sponsors of the Northern Eagles NRL Side 2000!!! -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: CF Training?
Sharon, Truer words were never spoken!.. As a company that has recently been very agressive in hiring CF folke, I can tell you that a URL is worth a thousand words. High school dropout? No problem. If you've got the "stuff", then companies like ours overlook that kinda stuff.. :) Gregory --- annex.com, Inc. - http://www.annex.com/ --- - If you EcoBuild it, they will come. - - http://www.ecobuilder.com/ - --- > -Original Message- > From: Sharon DiOrio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CF Training? > > > My recommendation to anyone wanting to get more into CF is to find a > company that specializes in it. It's the only way you'll get > to see what > CF is really capable of. Most corporations don't use 1/10th of the CF > power available to them. I believe that in order to get > really good with > the software, you'll need to be challenged by people wanting > more than you > can deliver, and surrounded by people who can show you how > it's done. I > won't say that you can't get good learning by yourself, but > it takes a lot > more effort on your part. > > Check out the Allaire Partners on the allaire website. I'm > sure there is > one near you. When you interview, tell them exactly what > you're looking > for: an opportunity to become a CF guru. Most of them will > be thrilled to > talk to you. And these days, having URLs means a lot more > than a degree. > > If actually changing jobs isn't an option now, then join your > nearest CFUG. > Network your hiney off and find a couple of "coding > partners" who would be > willing to share ideas, code, and provide a CF sounding board. > > Sharon -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
CF Training?
Hi all, In the interest of full disclosure, I'll state up front that I'm an Allaire Certified Instructor, and am V.P. of Technical Services for DevTech, an Allaire Authorized Training Center and Allaire Premier Partner with offices in Portland and Seattle. This means I know a lot about the classes, and have a financial interest in promoting them. And, I believe I have a relevant perspective to share here. Ben Forta's books are a great way to learn *IF* you have the time and discipline to work through them, cover to cover. The Allaire courses (the "basic" Fast Track to ColdFusion, and Advanced ColdFusion Development) cover much, though not all, of what these books have to offer, in 3 days each. To me, the "how should I go about learning ColdFusion" question has two main angles: Learning Style - are you disciplined enough to hit the books and work them hard, evenings and weekends, by yourself while holding down another job? Many people learn better in a classroom environment, where topics can be presented and absorbed in a logical flow of bite- size chunks, during a three day period set aside to focus on taking in new information. Cost - for you, is it less expensive to buy a book, and then devote a few months of evening and weekend work to get up to speed, or is it a more cost-effective use of your time to attend an intense classroom experience and get the core skills under your belt in about a week? The Allaire courses are "intense" according to virtually all student feedback I've ever received (I've taught close to 200 students, with another round beginning tomorrow morning), which is why my company has a second-round "re-audit" policy. Sometimes once is not enough, as there's a LOT in these classes. But, my students leave with a solid toolbelt of useful ColdFusion techniques strapped around their waist. The folks at Allaire put together a very solid curriculum. Your mileage, of course, may vary ... and I regularly plug Forta's books in my classes (one o' these days I'm gonna ask him for a kickback! ). It all comes down to how *you* learn best. Leo Schuman, JD V.P. Technical Services Advanced Allaire Certified Instructor DevTech, Inc. http://www.dev-tech.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CF Training?
My recommendation to anyone wanting to get more into CF is to find a company that specializes in it. It's the only way you'll get to see what CF is really capable of. Most corporations don't use 1/10th of the CF power available to them. I believe that in order to get really good with the software, you'll need to be challenged by people wanting more than you can deliver, and surrounded by people who can show you how it's done. I won't say that you can't get good learning by yourself, but it takes a lot more effort on your part. Check out the Allaire Partners on the allaire website. I'm sure there is one near you. When you interview, tell them exactly what you're looking for: an opportunity to become a CF guru. Most of them will be thrilled to talk to you. And these days, having URLs means a lot more than a degree. If actually changing jobs isn't an option now, then join your nearest CFUG. Network your hiney off and find a couple of "coding partners" who would be willing to share ideas, code, and provide a CF sounding board. Sharon At 08:47 PM 6/4/2000 -0400, Marco Gil wrote: >Christine, > >I find myself in a very similar boat. I am currently in the midst of a >career change... I have done about 3 websites from scratch using Cold >Fusion, some more advanced than others but still not utilizing everything >that CF has to offer. > >If you come across any replies that you found very informative with regards >to further pursuing a career in CF development, by all means forward it to >me. Thanks again and I hope you find what you're looking for because I to >am looking for the same :) > >Regards, > >Marco >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- Original Message - >From: "Christine Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 10:10 PM >Subject: CF Training? > > >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >> >> --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset="iso-8859-1" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> Hi all! >> I have read CFWACK4.0 cover to cover (along with doing all the = >> exercises) and am starting on the Advanced book. I'm wondering if I = >> should attend the training courses by Allaire, FT to CF and Advanced CF = >> development. I have starting writing applications on the side for = >> people, but I would like to make this my full-time career (I love this = >> stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door for a career in = >> CF? My background (I'll keep this short) is a BA in Biology with a = >> minor in math and some misc additional courses that mean just as little. = >> The important stuff I've been working on though is self-study in CF, = >> SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects Fusion and Access. Please advise!! >> Thanks, Christine >> >> --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0 >> Content-Type: text/html; >> charset="iso-8859-1" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> >> >> > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> >> >> >> >> >> Hi all! >> I have read = >> CFWACK4.0 cover to=20 >> cover (along with doing all the exercises) and am starting on the = >> Advanced=20 >> book. I'm wondering if I should attend the training courses by = >> Allaire, FT=20 >> to CF and Advanced CF development. I have starting writing = >> applications on=20 >> the side for people, but I would like to make this my full-time career = >> (I love=20 >> this stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door = >> for a=20 >> career in CF? My background = >> (I'll keep this=20 >> short) is a BA in Biology with a minor in math and some = >> misc additional=20 >> courses that mean just as little. The important stuff I've = >> been=20 >> working on though is self-study in CF, SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects = >> Fusion and=20 >> Access. Please advise!! >> =20 > >> = >> =20 >> Thanks, =20 >> Christine >> >> --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0-- >> >> -- > >> Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk >> To Unsubscribe visit > >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or >send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in >the body. > >--- --- >Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk >To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. > -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CF Training?
Christine, I find myself in a very similar boat. I am currently in the midst of a career change... I have done about 3 websites from scratch using Cold Fusion, some more advanced than others but still not utilizing everything that CF has to offer. If you come across any replies that you found very informative with regards to further pursuing a career in CF development, by all means forward it to me. Thanks again and I hope you find what you're looking for because I to am looking for the same :) Regards, Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Christine Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 10:10 PM Subject: CF Training? > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi all! > I have read CFWACK4.0 cover to cover (along with doing all the = > exercises) and am starting on the Advanced book. I'm wondering if I = > should attend the training courses by Allaire, FT to CF and Advanced CF = > development. I have starting writing applications on the side for = > people, but I would like to make this my full-time career (I love this = > stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door for a career in = > CF? My background (I'll keep this short) is a BA in Biology with a = > minor in math and some misc additional courses that mean just as little. = > The important stuff I've been working on though is self-study in CF, = > SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects Fusion and Access. Please advise!! > Thanks, Christine > > --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > > Hi all! > I have read = > CFWACK4.0 cover to=20 > cover (along with doing all the exercises) and am starting on the = > Advanced=20 > book. I'm wondering if I should attend the training courses by = > Allaire, FT=20 > to CF and Advanced CF development. I have starting writing = > applications on=20 > the side for people, but I would like to make this my full-time career = > (I love=20 > this stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door = > for a=20 > career in CF? My background = > (I'll keep this=20 > short) is a BA in Biology with a minor in math and some = > misc additional=20 > courses that mean just as little. The important stuff I've = > been=20 > working on though is self-study in CF, SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects = > Fusion and=20 > Access. Please advise!! > =20 > = > =20 > Thanks, =20 > Christine > > --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0-- > > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Thank-you all for the response!! It's very encouraging and sound advise all around. Thanks again, Christine > Join a startup or any firm that will take you as a web developer (HTML, > CFML, SQL, VB, etc). Ideally they will already have a senior CF developer > that you can pick up a few things from. You'll want to get at least 12-18 > months under your belt after which you can pick which company you want to > join. In my case I came from an econ background, took 8 months of classes in > C/C++ at GWU, and was asked up by a startup web firm/friends to do HTML, ASP > and CF.. so basically self taught as are a lot of people here. Just remember > not to shy away from the challenging stuff, or stuff you haven't done. Thats > where you learn the most. > -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Thank-you all for the response! It is encouraging and sound advise all around. Thanks again, Christine [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Join a startup or any firm that will take you as a web developer (HTML, CFML, SQL, VB, etc). Ideally they will already have a senior CF developer that you can pick up a few things from. You'll want to get at least 12-18 months under your belt after which you can pick which company you want to join. In my case I came from an econ background, took 8 months of classes in C/C++ at GWU, and was asked up by a startup web firm/friends to do HTML, ASP and CF.. so basically self taught as are a lot of people here. Just remember not to shy away from the challenging stuff, or stuff you haven't done. Thats where you learn the most. > > Hi all! > I have read CFWACK4.0 cover to cover (along with doing all the = > exercises) and am starting on the Advanced book. I'm wondering if I = > should attend the training courses by Allaire, FT to CF and Advanced CF = > development. I have starting writing applications on the side for = > people, but I would like to make this my full-time career (I love this = > stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door for a career in = > CF? My background (I'll keep this short) is a BA in Biology with a = > minor in math and some misc additional courses that mean just as little. = > The important stuff I've been working on though is self-study in CF, = > SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects Fusion and Access. Please advise!! > Thanks, Christine > > --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > > Hi all! > I have read = > CFWACK4.0 cover to=20 > cover (along with doing all the exercises) and am starting on the = > Advanced=20 > book. I'm wondering if I should attend the training courses by = > Allaire, FT=20 > to CF and Advanced CF development. I have starting writing = > applications on=20 > the side for people, but I would like to make this my full-time career = > (I love=20 > this stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door = > for a=20 > career in CF? My background = > (I'll keep this=20 > short) is a BA in Biology with a minor in math and some = > misc additional=20 > courses that mean just as little. The important stuff I've = > been=20 > working on though is self-study in CF, SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects = > Fusion and=20 > Access. Please advise!! > =20 > = > =20 > Thanks, =20 > Christine > > --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0-- > > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. > -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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You've already got a great set of technologies under your belt. That's a good start. I've taken the FT course already, and I strongly advise taking it if you're serious about ColdFusion as a career. A fair amount of what the course covers is stuff that you've already done throughout the book (I went the same route that you did...doing Forta's book first, then FT. What I found about the class is that it cemented my CF knowledge...kind of filled in the holes. I'm now working as a CF developer for an internet startup, and loving every minute of it. I'll be taking the Adv. CF class in the next couple of months (this month, if I can manage it). Fact is, training is always a good thing, and if you're just starting out, being able to show that you're a self-starter by explaining what you're teaching yourself, as well as showing that you're investing in your own skills by paying for the courses, and that you've been trained by authorized trainers, a lot of employers will give your resume a second look in a pile of people with the same or more experience. I'd also suggest trying to go to the Allaire CF Developer's Conference later this year. It's a GREAT place to rub elbows with potential employers, as well as learn a LOT of things you won't find in books. Check out the Allaire website for more details. The other thing is to find the CFUG (ColdFusion Users Group) in your area. Another great place to find people who represent companies hiring CF developers. Some of these companies will hire with part of the offer being sending you for more CF training. Good luck... -Kev > -Original Message- > From: Christine Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 10:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CF Training? > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi all! > I have read CFWACK4.0 cover to cover (along with doing all the = > exercises) and am starting on the Advanced book. I'm wondering if I = > should attend the training courses by Allaire, FT to CF and Advanced CF = > development. I have starting writing applications on the side for = > people, but I would like to make this my full-time career (I love this = > stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door for a career in = > CF? My background (I'll keep this short) is a BA in Biology with a = > minor in math and some misc additional courses that mean just as little. = > The important stuff I've been working on though is self-study in CF, = > SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects Fusion and Access. Please advise!! > Thanks, Christine > > --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > > Hi all! > I have read = > CFWACK4.0 cover to=20 > cover (along with doing all the exercises) and am starting on the = > Advanced=20 > book. I'm wondering if I should attend the training courses by = > Allaire, FT=20 > to CF and Advanced CF development. I have starting writing = > applications on=20 > the side for people, but I would like to make this my full-time career = > (I love=20 > this stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door = > for a=20 > career in CF? My background = > (I'll keep this=20 > short) is a BA in Biology with a minor in math and some = > misc additional=20 > courses that mean just as little. The important stuff I've = > been=20 > working on though is self-study in CF, SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects = > Fusion and=20 > Access. Please advise!! > =20 > = > =20 > Thanks, =20 > Christine > > --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0-- > > -- > > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Christine Hmmm... I think that there is more than one "right way" to get your foot in the door. You seem to be self-motivated, or you wouldn't have gotten this far. You might consider this approach: 1) get access to a web site with CF & SQL (preferably SQL Server) and possibly ASP... this should cost $50/month or less 2) Your goal is to build a portfolio of real web applications to illustrate your skills 3) Pick 3 major applications you would like to implement, e.g: shopping cart community bulletin board personnel system forum accounting Content Syndication 4) Now, start small, expand on the apps in the CFWACK and evolve them into [more] complete applications that fit the app set you want in your portfolio... For example, you could build a personal picture album application that allows: upload and captioning of pictures; storing the pictures in files and the data in a database; retrieving and displaying these; maintaining the files. The techniques you develop will apply to most of the major apps (above). 5) Look around and see what others are doing and how they do it (good and bad)... this, and other HOF lists are a good source of URLS. This process will get you started and identify what you don't know that you need to learn. At some point, you'll have a little experience, some goals, some partial progress towards those goals, and lots of questions... lots of questions. So, now, is a good time to get the most out of the formal training courses... ...you'll have real questions about real problems that *you* have encountered. When you attend the class(es), you'll know exactly what you want to learn, and you'll make damn sure that you learn it. You'll be amazed... almost everything in the classes will address *your* specific questions/problems and you can use the techniques/examples in *your* applications. That's a start! Dick > >Hi all! > I have read CFWACK4.0 cover to cover (along with doing all the = >exercises) and am starting on the Advanced book. I'm wondering if I = >should attend the training courses by Allaire, FT to CF and Advanced CF = >development. I have starting writing applications on the side for = >people, but I would like to make this my full-time career (I love this = >stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door for a career in = >CF? My background (I'll keep this short) is a BA in Biology with a = >minor in math and some misc additional courses that mean just as little. = > The important stuff I've been working on though is self-study in CF, = >SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects Fusion and Access. Please advise!! > Thanks, Christine -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all! I have read CFWACK4.0 cover to cover (along with doing all the = exercises) and am starting on the Advanced book. I'm wondering if I = should attend the training courses by Allaire, FT to CF and Advanced CF = development. I have starting writing applications on the side for = people, but I would like to make this my full-time career (I love this = stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door for a career in = CF? My background (I'll keep this short) is a BA in Biology with a = minor in math and some misc additional courses that mean just as little. = The important stuff I've been working on though is self-study in CF, = SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects Fusion and Access. Please advise!! Thanks, Christine --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all! I have read = CFWACK4.0 cover to=20 cover (along with doing all the exercises) and am starting on the = Advanced=20 book. I'm wondering if I should attend the training courses by = Allaire, FT=20 to CF and Advanced CF development. I have starting writing = applications on=20 the side for people, but I would like to make this my full-time career = (I love=20 this stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door = for a=20 career in CF? My background = (I'll keep this=20 short) is a BA in Biology with a minor in math and some = misc additional=20 courses that mean just as little. The important stuff I've = been=20 working on though is self-study in CF, SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects = Fusion and=20 Access. Please advise!! =20 = =20 Thanks, =20 Christine --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0-- -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CF Training in Columbus Ohio :: : ? : :: When?
There are two classes in Cinci at Allaire there. John On Wed, 31 May 2000, Paul Ihrig wrote: > > I need to get back on board with this stuff. > to many little things to build & am wasting way to > much time in the books looking for answers. > > If the are any certified trainers in Columbus, please let me know. > > I need all the CF classes. > > if you would travel to train, send me some pricing please. > The reseller here still has not been certified. > > If I was a real programmer I would try it myself. > > thanks > -paul > -- > Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk > To Unsubscribe visit >http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a >message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. Visit www.cfworkshop.com ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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I need to get back on board with this stuff. to many little things to build & am wasting way to much time in the books looking for answers. If the are any certified trainers in Columbus, please let me know. I need all the CF classes. if you would travel to train, send me some pricing please. The reseller here still has not been certified. If I was a real programmer I would try it myself. thanks -paul -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
