RE: SQL Server and Nulls

[DURETTE, STEVEN J]

Dbfield=

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rharri...@aimg.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 3:58 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: SQL Server and Nulls


In an update query, to a tinyint field which allows nulls, I have the update

dbfield=#mydatefield#

If mydatefield has no value, sql is throwing an error. The field allows
nulls. I've never had to say if "" then NULL before.  What the heck?


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Re: SQL Server and Nulls

[John M Bliss]

dbfield = 

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Robert Harrison  wrote:

>
> In an update query, to a tinyint field which allows nulls, I have the
> update
>
> dbfield=#mydatefield#
>
> If mydatefield has no value, sql is throwing an error. The field allows
> nulls. I've never had to say if "" then NULL before.  What the heck?
>
>
> Robert Harrison
> Full Stack Developer
> AIMG
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> Direct Line: 516-302-4345
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>
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Re: Embedding CF in CMS Content

[Akos Fortagh]

We needed to do something similar and we actually wrote the content to a file 
and included that.
It worked perfectly. 

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Re: Embedding CF in CMS Content

[Russ Michaels]

when you need to put dynamic content then you should never allow CODE,
instead use macros
e.g.
[include:filename]

you then parse the content before displaying to process the macros.
read this article for more info:
http://www.michaels.me.uk/post.cfm/content-management-processing-dynamic-content


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RE: Embedding CF in CMS Content

[Robert Harrison]

Thanks.  I found another way around it.   Just dealing with something that
was already put together strangely, where some embedded functional code into
a CMS WYSIWYG editor.

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Re: Embedding CF in CMS Content

[Jon Clausen]

No, CF won’t evaluate the output of a database query - nor should it.  That 
would pose all sorts of security and stability concerns.  A better solution is 
to incorporate the dynamic content you want in to your CMS as a module.  Most 
CMS systems have a method for including custom modular content.


On April 17, 2015 at 12:59:12 PM, Robert Harrison (rharri...@aimg.com) wrote:


I have a situation where I need to embed a CFINCLUDE in a CMS data field  
which is output. How do I get the include to render? Can I even do that?  



Example is like #mydata# . the include is in the mydata  
output. Can I evaluate or something?  



Thanks  







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Re: ColdFusion 11 CFHTTP issue with HTTPS and proxy

[Larry Lyons]

This Ray Camden blog post may help:

http://www.raymondcamden.com/2014/05/22/Important-note-about-ColdFusion-11-and-CFHTTP

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> Hi all,
> 
> I'm working with Adobe support on this issue but I wanted to post it 
> out to this group in case anyone has ideas on how to deal with this 
> situation.
> 
> We've got some internal only CF apps that live behind a web proxy on 
> our network.  In CF 9 we could make CFHTTP requests to external vendor 
> sites over HTTPS, with the proxy attributes set correctly, everything 
> worked great.  Now we're in the process of moving to CF 11 and this no 
> longer works (only with URLs that are accessed over HTTPS, like our 
> payment processor, HTTP requests are fine).
> 
> As a test I set up two CFHTTP calls using the same URL, one over HTTP 
> and one over HTTPS.  On CF 11 when I use the CFHTTP tag for the HTTP 
> URL (with proxy settings and credentials) I get a 200 OK response and 
> the page contents (perfect).  When I try the exact same tag with the 
> HTTPS URL, I get a 407 Proxy Authentication Required (boo).
> 
> I've tried different JVMs, different platforms (Windows 7, Server 2012, 
> Mac OS X) with no difference.
> 
> What I discovered when I did a packet capture was that for the HTTP 
> request (CF 9 or CF 11) I had a "Proxy-Authorization" header with the 
> credentials Base64 encoded.  For the HTTPS request, CF 9 has that same 
> Proxy-Authorization header, but CF 11 does not.  In fact there are 
> quite a few request headers missing in the HTTP request for HTTPS in 
> CF 11.
> 
> I tried to manually add the header using the CFHTTPPARAM tag which did 
> not seem to change anything.
> 
> I've been working with support for about three weeks now and I'm not 
> making any headway.  I have confirmed for them that everything works 
> in CF 9 (running on JRun) but not in either CF 10 or CF 11 (which is 
> Tomcat based).  So I'm wondering if there's a Tomcat problem, but 
> since the shipped version of Tomcat is Adobe ColdFusion specific I'm 
> hoping that the Adobe engineers can identify a solution.
> 
> Has anyone run in to anything like this, and if so, how did you fix 
> it?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Lincoln
> 
> 
> Lincoln Milner
> Web Technical Lead
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Re: cfindex is taking forever - and one more question

[Les Mizzell]

I've optimized things as much as I could by building a number of 
collections and limiting each to a specific doc type.

Next question!!

I'm trying to return a few sentences from each doc with the search term 
highlighted. So, I use "ContextPassages" like below.



However, very rarely is #searchResults.context# actually giving me 
anything. Out of 30 returned documents, maybe only 3 return content for 
#searchResults.context#. Usually it's empty/null/

Suggestions?

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Re: Microsoft update breaks ACF10 admin?

[John M Bliss]

Thanks. Restarting the CF service fixed the issue(!)

Scary/weird.

On Sat, Apr 11, 2015, 5:44 PM M.A. Kruger  wrote:

>
> john. my ops team says to be sure you have upgraded your connectors after
> patching your cf 10 server to the latest patch level.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 11, 2015, at 2:09 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello. Yesterday, I installed Microsoft Updates for Windows Server 2012
> and
> > today, from Internet Explorer on server, I can no longer surf to:
> >
> > http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/
> >
> > It just spins and spins. Any ideas?
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: Microsoft update breaks ACF10 admin?

[M.A. Kruger]

john. my ops team says to be sure you have upgraded your connectors after 
patching your cf 10 server to the latest patch level. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2015, at 2:09 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello. Yesterday, I installed Microsoft Updates for Windows Server 2012 and
> today, from Internet Explorer on server, I can no longer surf to:
> 
> http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/administrator/
> 
> It just spins and spins. Any ideas?
> 
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> 
> 

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RE: cfindex is taking forever

[Kevin Parker]

This is not a CF solution but it may at least help with what it has to trawl
through  - in any case this will help anything else that has to call or
access the document. 

This is for PDF files but you might consider converting Office files to PDF
at your discretion of course - a properly prepared PDF version of an Office
document can be up to a quarter of the file size of the source document -
that's useful and print and view quality is not compromised.

I'm a big fan of PDF but unfortunately it's a file format that suffers a lot
from bad file preparation -  the result is unnecessarily big files amongst
other things. 

Try optimising all the PDFs to see if this reduces the size of some of the
files - I suspect it might.  You'll need to check that the output settings
(e.g. print resolution, image resolution etc.) are suitable for the end
purpose of the document but from my experience the default settings are
usually quite good.

The good news is you can automate this process over the entire file system
with Acrobat Pro's batch feature.

Hope that helps in some way!


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-Original Message-
From: Les Mizzell [mailto:lesm...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 8:23 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: cfindex is taking forever


I'm working on building a search interface for a "document depo" on a site.
The document folder has files going all the way back to 2005, and includes a
number of 10+ meg pdf files,  a few that are over 20 megs, countless Word
and Excel files, Power Point presentations

I don't have access to the CFAdministrator, so:






The collection was created successfully as far as I can tell. However,
indexing has been running (or at least the wheel on my browser is still
turning) for almost 3 hours now. I'm going to forget about it and go mow my
grass and see what's happening when I finish.

I'm thinking though ... too much stuff to index? Or is amount of time not
out of line for a very large collection of files?
Also, I've not been able to find a list of legally accepted extensions. 
I might have something listed that's just going to cause it to crap out
anyway.

Thoughts? Try something else? What exactly?



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RE: I/O Exception: Name in certificate does not match host name

[Ian Chapman]

Ok thanks Dave I'll look into that idea.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 08 April 2015 22:47
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: I/O Exception: Name in certificate does not match host name


> 3) The dev API is (real domain names replaced with "domain1" and 
> domain2) prerelease-api.domain2.com initially this gave the error:
>
> I/O Exception: Name in certificate `*.domain1.net' does not match host 
> name `prelease-api.domain2.com'
>
> I tried adding to the hosts:
>
> xx.xxx.xxx.xxx  prelease-api.domain1.net
>
> where xx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the resolving IP address of 
> prelease-api.domain2.com
>
> restarted CF and called prelease-api.domain1.net in my CFHTTP request 
> and I get a 404 error, so I no longer get the IO error but I'm not 
> hitting the correct server/application

It's possible they're looking for host headers to figure out how to resolve
requests. You might be able to specify the host header separately within
your CFHTTP request, but I've never tried it to be honest.

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Re: cfindex is taking forever

[Byron Mann]

Not in front of a computer right now, but there is an option in the
CFcollection tag to list or get a collection details (something like that).
Pretty sure that gives you the record or document count and maybe even size
.

I think that is accessible while indexing is happening. You could possibly
write a quick script to see how far along things are.

On Apr 8, 2015 6:51 PM, "Les Mizzell"  wrote:
>
>
>  > That doesn't actually sound unreasonable, but it might be useful to
>  > come up with a document count more specific than "very large".
>
>
> Approx 3000 documents - around 3 gb of data
> ... it's still running from what I can tell.
>
> ~


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Re: cfindex is taking forever

[Les Mizzell]

 > That doesn't actually sound unreasonable, but it might be useful to
 > come up with a document count more specific than "very large".


Approx 3000 documents - around 3 gb of data
... it's still running from what I can tell.

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Re: cfindex is taking forever

[Russ Michaels]

you also have to take your disk iops into consideration. If you are on a
VPS then this will give you much slower disk performance, especially if its
not SSD, and actions like this can take a lot longer.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Les Mizzell  wrote:

>
>  > I'm going to forget about it and go mow my grass and see what's
> happening when I finish.
>
> Well crap, somebody stole my lawnmower. This is why we can't have nice
> things
>
> 

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Re: cfindex is taking forever

[Dave Watts]

> The collection was created successfully as far as I can tell. However,
> indexing has been running (or at least the wheel on my browser is still
> turning) for almost 3 hours now. I'm going to forget about it and go mow
> my grass and see what's happening when I finish.
>
> I'm thinking though ... too much stuff to index? Or is amount of time
> not out of line for a very large collection of files?

That doesn't actually sound unreasonable, but it might be useful to
come up with a document count more specific than "very large".

> Thoughts? Try something else? What exactly?

Have you considered Solr instead of Verity? Not that this would solve
the problem of indexing a lot of files, specifically.

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Re: cfindex is taking forever

[Les Mizzell]

 > I'm going to forget about it and go mow my grass and see what's 
happening when I finish.

Well crap, somebody stole my lawnmower. This is why we can't have nice 
things

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Re: I/O Exception: Name in certificate does not match host name

[Dave Watts]

> 3) The dev API is (real domain names replaced with "domain1" and domain2)
> prerelease-api.domain2.com initially this gave the error:
>
> I/O Exception: Name in certificate `*.domain1.net' does not match host name
> `prelease-api.domain2.com'
>
> I tried adding to the hosts:
>
> xx.xxx.xxx.xxx  prelease-api.domain1.net
>
> where xx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the resolving IP address of prelease-api.domain2.com
>
> restarted CF and called prelease-api.domain1.net in my CFHTTP request and I
> get a 404 error, so I no longer get the IO error but I'm not hitting the
> correct server/application

It's possible they're looking for host headers to figure out how to
resolve requests. You might be able to specify the host header
separately within your CFHTTP request, but I've never tried it to be
honest.

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RE: I/O Exception: Name in certificate does not match host name

[Ian Chapman]

I've tried it that way but no dice, let show you what I have tried:

1) Exported the cert and imported into the Truststore (this should not have
been needed as it is a Thawte issued certificate which is already in the
trsutstore and lack of record in the truststore causes a different IO
error). This caused no change.


2) The live API is api.domain2.com initially this gave the error:

(note: real domain names replaced with "domain1" and "domain2")

I/O Exception: Name in certificate `api.domain1.net' does not match host
name `api.domain2.com'

So I added to the hosts:

xx.xxx.xxx.xxx  api.domain1.net

where xx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the resolving IP address of api.domain2.com

restarted CF and called api.domain1.net in my CFHTTP request and this works
and I can connect to the live API when the time comes.


3) The dev API is (real domain names replaced with "domain1" and domain2)
prerelease-api.domain2.com initially this gave the error:

I/O Exception: Name in certificate `*.domain1.net' does not match host name
`prelease-api.domain2.com'

I tried adding to the hosts:

xx.xxx.xxx.xxx  prelease-api.domain1.net

where xx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the resolving IP address of prelease-api.domain2.com

restarted CF and called prelease-api.domain1.net in my CFHTTP request and I
get a 404 error, so I no longer get the IO error but I'm not hitting the
correct server/application






What Dave said.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I think you'll need to update the hosts file so that:
> >
> > prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com
> >
> > ...points to the right IP and then refer to:
> >
> > prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com
> >
> > ...in your code. That should make everything "line up."
>
> I think this is nearly right, except that you'll need to find the IP 
> address for prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com and create a hosts entry 
> for prerelease-api.domain.com that points to this IP address.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: I/O Exception: Name in certificate does not match host name

[John M Bliss]

What Dave said.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I think you'll need to update the hosts file so that:
> >
> > prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com
> >
> > ...points to the right IP and then refer to:
> >
> > prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com
> >
> > ...in your code. That should make everything "line up."
>
> I think this is nearly right, except that you'll need to find the IP
> address for prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com and create a hosts entry
> for prerelease-api.domain.com that points to this IP address.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
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> (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
> authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
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Re: I/O Exception: Name in certificate does not match host name

[Dave Watts]

> I think you'll need to update the hosts file so that:
>
> prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com
>
> ...points to the right IP and then refer to:
>
> prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com
>
> ...in your code. That should make everything "line up."

I think this is nearly right, except that you'll need to find the IP
address for prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com and create a hosts entry
for prerelease-api.domain.com that points to this IP address.

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Re: I/O Exception: Name in certificate does not match host name

[Byron Mann]

Think what you might need is to add the SSL certificate to the java cacerts
file as a trusted certificate.  Then any sub-name for the domain will work.

https://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/import-certificates-certificate-stores-coldfusion.html

This is a nice plugin for the CF Administrator to manage the cacerts, as
opposed to messing with the command line.

http://certman.riaforge.org/

~Byron



On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Ian Chapman 
wrote:

>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Some time ago I posted a question about an error we were getting with MX7.1
>
> http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353955
>
> I have a similar problem but I believe the client is using a widlcard
> certificate so I get the error:
>
> I/O Exception: Name in certificate `*.domain.net' does not match host
> name `prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com'
>
> The difference this time is the '*.domain.net', previously it was for a
> determined sub domain so an aaddition to the host file resolved it.
>
> I've trid a number of things with the host file but as it's a wildcard I
> don't see what I would add to the hosts as any number of subdomains on
> domain.net could resovle to a number of IP's.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian.
>
> 

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Re: I/O Exception: Name in certificate does not match host name

[John M Bliss]

I think you'll need to update the hosts file so that:

prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com

...points to the right IP and then refer to:

prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com

...in your code. That should make everything "line up."

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Ian Chapman 
wrote:

>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Some time ago I posted a question about an error we were getting with MX7.1
>
> http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353955
>
> I have a similar problem but I believe the client is using a widlcard
> certificate so I get the error:
>
> I/O Exception: Name in certificate `*.domain.net' does not match host
> name `prerelease-api.anotherdomain.com'
>
> The difference this time is the '*.domain.net', previously it was for a
> determined sub domain so an aaddition to the host file resolved it.
>
> I've trid a number of things with the host file but as it's a wildcard I
> don't see what I would add to the hosts as any number of subdomains on
> domain.net could resovle to a number of IP's.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian.
>
> 

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Re: ACF10 mail and Windows Server 2012

[John M Bliss]

No. Interestingly, it appears that some carriage returns / line feeds
remain. The ones that got stripped out are ones inside of:


#loop.output#



...where that carriage return / line feed between #loop.output# and 
is not coming through and all elements of the loop are output on one line.
This worked in my 32 bit environment. Encoding issue?

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:

>
> Have you looked at the raw source of the email to make sure that CF is not
> placing the text in an html mailpart?
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:21 PM John M Bliss  wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes. The code didn't change. Just moved from 32 bit Windows Server 2003
> > to 64 bit Windows Server 2012 and 32 bit ACF10 to 64 bit ACF10.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Russ Michaels 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > are you sure you do not have the emails set to send as HTML ?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:19 PM, John M Bliss 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > In the SMTP Server properties, I changed the IP from one of the IP's
> on
> > > the
> > > > box to "all unassigned" and it worked.
> > > >
> > > > Next question: resulting plaintext emails appear to have carriage
> > > returns /
> > > > line feeds stripped out. Any idea how to get those back?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:52 AM, John M Bliss 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Working on configuring ACF10 mail on Windows Server 2012. I
> followed
> > > > these
> > > > > steps:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > http://blog.hyperfive.com/2013/07/how-to-setup-internal-
> > smtp-service-for.html
> > > > >
> > > > > ...but, in ACF10 admin interface Server Settings > Mail when I set
> > Mail
> > > > > Server to localhost, check Verify mail server connection, and click
> > > > Submit,
> > > > > I get Connection Verification Failed!
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas what I'm missing?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: ACF10 mail and Windows Server 2012

[Dean Lawrence]

Have you looked at the raw source of the email to make sure that CF is not
placing the text in an html mailpart?

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:21 PM John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> Yes. The code didn't change. Just moved from 32 bit Windows Server 2003
> to 64 bit Windows Server 2012 and 32 bit ACF10 to 64 bit ACF10.
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > are you sure you do not have the emails set to send as HTML ?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:19 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > In the SMTP Server properties, I changed the IP from one of the IP's on
> > the
> > > box to "all unassigned" and it worked.
> > >
> > > Next question: resulting plaintext emails appear to have carriage
> > returns /
> > > line feeds stripped out. Any idea how to get those back?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:52 AM, John M Bliss 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Working on configuring ACF10 mail on Windows Server 2012. I followed
> > > these
> > > > steps:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://blog.hyperfive.com/2013/07/how-to-setup-internal-
> smtp-service-for.html
> > > >
> > > > ...but, in ACF10 admin interface Server Settings > Mail when I set
> Mail
> > > > Server to localhost, check Verify mail server connection, and click
> > > Submit,
> > > > I get Connection Verification Failed!
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas what I'm missing?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: ACF10 mail and Windows Server 2012

[John M Bliss]

Yes. The code didn't change. Just moved from 32 bit Windows Server 2003
to 64 bit Windows Server 2012 and 32 bit ACF10 to 64 bit ACF10.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> are you sure you do not have the emails set to send as HTML ?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:19 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:
>
> >
> > In the SMTP Server properties, I changed the IP from one of the IP's on
> the
> > box to "all unassigned" and it worked.
> >
> > Next question: resulting plaintext emails appear to have carriage
> returns /
> > line feeds stripped out. Any idea how to get those back?
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:52 AM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Working on configuring ACF10 mail on Windows Server 2012. I followed
> > these
> > > steps:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://blog.hyperfive.com/2013/07/how-to-setup-internal-smtp-service-for.html
> > >
> > > ...but, in ACF10 admin interface Server Settings > Mail when I set Mail
> > > Server to localhost, check Verify mail server connection, and click
> > Submit,
> > > I get Connection Verification Failed!
> > >
> > > Any ideas what I'm missing?
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: Ajax Post Value on CF Side

[Robert Harrison]

Solved.  The problem was I was overcomplicating this and treating it like
JSON just like everyone else has been advising. 

With an AJAX post, the string: Object {name: "rid", value: "1"}

Appears to Coldfusion as form values.  The values #form.name# and
#form.value# give me "rid" and "1".

Too simple, so it confused me.  


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Re: Ajax Post Value on CF Side

[Dean Lawrence]

Once you convert it into a CF structure using deserializeJSON, you can then
use cfdump to see how CF interprets it.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:31 PM Robert Harrison  wrote:

>
> Let me make this simpler.  The value being send via an ajax post is:
>
> Object {name: "rid", value: "1"}
>
> If I just want to dump that value/object how to I do it?   I have no idea
> what name CF see that as.
>
> Robert Harrison
> Full Stack Developer
> AIMG
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> Direct Line: 516-302-4345
> www.aimg.com
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Ajax Post Value on CF Side

[Robert Harrison]

Let me make this simpler.  The value being send via an ajax post is:

Object {name: "rid", value: "1"}

If I just want to dump that value/object how to I do it?   I have no idea
what name CF see that as.

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Re: Ajax Post Value on CF Side

[Dean Lawrence]

You can very easily convert it to a structure using the deserializeJSON
function in CF. Here is a link with some examples of working with JSON in
ColdFusion. http://www.learncfinaweek.com/week1/JSON/

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:55 AM Robert Harrison  wrote:

>
> I'm sending an Ajax post to a CF page.  The post data looks like (below) in
> the counsel:
>
>
>
> Object {name: "rid", value: "1"}
>
>
>
> How in the heck to I get that value on the ColdFusion page?
>
>
>
>
>
> Robert Harrison
> Full Stack Developer
> AIMG
>   rharri...@aimg.com
> Main Office: 704-321-1234  ext.118
> Direct Line: 516-302-4345
>   www.aimg.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: ACF10 mail and Windows Server 2012

[Byron Mann]

Careful with that, make sure you aren't opening up an open mail relay if
you have public IP space on the server.

You can do a check with some online tools like this.

http://mxtoolbox.com/supertoolmobile.aspx

On Apr 7, 2015 8:20 AM, "John M Bliss"  wrote:
>
>
> In the SMTP Server properties, I changed the IP from one of the IP's on
the
> box to "all unassigned" and it worked.
>


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Re: ACF10 mail and Windows Server 2012

[Byron Mann]

Careful with that, make sure you aren't opening up an open mail relay if
you have public IP space on the server.

You can do a check with some online tools like this.

http://mxtoolbox.com/supertoolmobile.aspx

On Apr 7, 2015 8:20 AM, "John M Bliss"  wrote:
>
>
> In the SMTP Server properties, I changed the IP from one of the IP's on
the
> box to "all unassigned" and it worked.
>


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Re: Ajax Post Value on CF Side

[Jon Clausen]

With JQuery:

var post_data = $('#myform').serializeArray();

$.post('/mycfpage',post_data,function(data){
//do stuff with JSON data here
var name = data.name;
var value = data.value;

//then manipulate the DOM from there

},'json');




On April 7, 2015 at 11:55:47 AM, Robert Harrison (rharri...@aimg.com) wrote:


I'm sending an Ajax post to a CF page. The post data looks like (below) in 
the counsel: 



Object {name: "rid", value: "1"} 



How in the heck to I get that value on the ColdFusion page? 





Robert Harrison 
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 rharri...@aimg.com 
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Direct Line: 516-302-4345 
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Re: Ajax Post Value on CF Side

[Phillip Vector]

Looks like a basic JSON value. Just parse it and you should have it put
into a variable.

or am I not understanding the question? I have yet to have my morning
coffee.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Robert Harrison  wrote:

>
> I'm sending an Ajax post to a CF page.  The post data looks like (below) in
> the counsel:
>
>
>
> Object {name: "rid", value: "1"}
>
>
>
> How in the heck to I get that value on the ColdFusion page?
>
>
>
>
>
> Robert Harrison
> Full Stack Developer
> AIMG
>   rharri...@aimg.com
> Main Office: 704-321-1234 ext.118
> Direct Line: 516-302-4345
>   www.aimg.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: ACF10 mail and Windows Server 2012

[Russ Michaels]

are you sure you do not have the emails set to send as HTML ?


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:19 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> In the SMTP Server properties, I changed the IP from one of the IP's on the
> box to "all unassigned" and it worked.
>
> Next question: resulting plaintext emails appear to have carriage returns /
> line feeds stripped out. Any idea how to get those back?
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:52 AM, John M Bliss  wrote:
>
> > Working on configuring ACF10 mail on Windows Server 2012. I followed
> these
> > steps:
> >
> >
> >
> http://blog.hyperfive.com/2013/07/how-to-setup-internal-smtp-service-for.html
> >
> > ...but, in ACF10 admin interface Server Settings > Mail when I set Mail
> > Server to localhost, check Verify mail server connection, and click
> Submit,
> > I get Connection Verification Failed!
> >
> > Any ideas what I'm missing?
> >
> > --
> > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> >
>
>
>
> --
> John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
>
>
> 

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Re: ACF10 mail and Windows Server 2012

[John M Bliss]

In the SMTP Server properties, I changed the IP from one of the IP's on the
box to "all unassigned" and it worked.

Next question: resulting plaintext emails appear to have carriage returns /
line feeds stripped out. Any idea how to get those back?

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:52 AM, John M Bliss  wrote:

> Working on configuring ACF10 mail on Windows Server 2012. I followed these
> steps:
>
>
> http://blog.hyperfive.com/2013/07/how-to-setup-internal-smtp-service-for.html
>
> ...but, in ACF10 admin interface Server Settings > Mail when I set Mail
> Server to localhost, check Verify mail server connection, and click Submit,
> I get Connection Verification Failed!
>
> Any ideas what I'm missing?
>
> --
> John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
>



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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Russ Michaels]

the only person arguing here is you, you seem very insistent on getting the
last word and one-upping everyone today.
All I have done is assert a fact I know to be true.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Andrew Scott 
wrote:

>
> Russ,
>
> *sigh* I think you're arguing with the wrong guy. Yes, that is what
> happens. Under a default install of IIS, the setting for the error pages is
> as described in the picture in the last link I sent. There is no denying
> that is the default setting, then on top of that I clearly stated that YOU
> MUST CHANGE the ColdFusion sending of Status codes for the ColdFusion
> error, I also clearly stated that YOU DO NOT have to change any IIS setting
> to do this. I then clearly provided a link to back up that YOU DO NOT have
> to change any IIS setting.
>
> Now I believe you're arguing with the wrong person and what you are arguing
> back at me, is not what I have said at all!
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
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>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>
> >
> > clealry I do know better than you, I suggest you take off your arrogamce
> > hat for a while and actually try it with a clean install of IIS and you
> > will find out that I am correct and that CF errors are not displayed by
> > default, just a 500 server error.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Andrew Scott 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ​rotflmao, as a hosting provider you should know better.​
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Andrew Scott
> > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Russ Michaels 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > sorry but you are wrong, as a hosting provider I deal with this all
> the
> > > > time on many many servers.
> > > > what I said below is correct.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Andrew Scott <
> andr...@andyscott.id.au>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Russ,
> > > > >
> > > > > By default IIS is set to either send Detailed if local or Custom if
> > > > remote,
> > > > > if one is changing this setting on a remote server it is likely to
> > be a
> > > > > production server and should not be be touched. At least this is
> the
> > > way
> > > > I
> > > > > read that, but again you don't need to touch any IIS setting when
> > > dealing
> > > > > with ColdFusion errors at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which can be explained in more detail here.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.iis.net/learn/troubleshoot/diagnosing-http-errors/how-to-use-http-detailed-errors-in-iis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Andrew Scott
> > > > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > > > > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Russ Michaels  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > by default IIS will display a 500 server error if it gets back a
> CF
> > > > error
> > > > > > page as it doesn't know what to do with it as it doesn't send a
> > valid
> > > > > error
> > > > > > code that matches any IIS errors.
> > > > > > In order to see the REAL cf error you have to turn on detailed
> > error
> > > > > > messages in IIS, or you have to create a custom error page to
> > display
> > > > > > instead of the 500 server error.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Michael Grant]

My own personal, and albeit completely anecdotal, experience bears out what
Russ has written. By default you get the crappy 500 error, which the first
time I encountered it kept me running in circles for a while because I
didn't think it was coming from CF.

Hopefully the OP is at least being entertained if not helped.

MG





On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> clealry I do know better than you, I suggest you take off your arrogamce
> hat for a while and actually try it with a clean install of IIS and you
> will find out that I am correct and that CF errors are not displayed by
> default, just a 500 server error.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Andrew Scott 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > ​rotflmao, as a hosting provider you should know better.​
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew Scott
> > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > sorry but you are wrong, as a hosting provider I deal with this all the
> > > time on many many servers.
> > > what I said below is correct.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Andrew Scott 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Russ,
> > > >
> > > > By default IIS is set to either send Detailed if local or Custom if
> > > remote,
> > > > if one is changing this setting on a remote server it is likely to
> be a
> > > > production server and should not be be touched. At least this is the
> > way
> > > I
> > > > read that, but again you don't need to touch any IIS setting when
> > dealing
> > > > with ColdFusion errors at all.
> > > >
> > > > Which can be explained in more detail here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.iis.net/learn/troubleshoot/diagnosing-http-errors/how-to-use-http-detailed-errors-in-iis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Andrew Scott
> > > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > > > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Russ Michaels 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > by default IIS will display a 500 server error if it gets back a CF
> > > error
> > > > > page as it doesn't know what to do with it as it doesn't send a
> valid
> > > > error
> > > > > code that matches any IIS errors.
> > > > > In order to see the REAL cf error you have to turn on detailed
> error
> > > > > messages in IIS, or you have to create a custom error page to
> display
> > > > > instead of the 500 server error.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

Russ,

*sigh* I think you're arguing with the wrong guy. Yes, that is what
happens. Under a default install of IIS, the setting for the error pages is
as described in the picture in the last link I sent. There is no denying
that is the default setting, then on top of that I clearly stated that YOU
MUST CHANGE the ColdFusion sending of Status codes for the ColdFusion
error, I also clearly stated that YOU DO NOT have to change any IIS setting
to do this. I then clearly provided a link to back up that YOU DO NOT have
to change any IIS setting.

Now I believe you're arguing with the wrong person and what you are arguing
back at me, is not what I have said at all!



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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> clealry I do know better than you, I suggest you take off your arrogamce
> hat for a while and actually try it with a clean install of IIS and you
> will find out that I am correct and that CF errors are not displayed by
> default, just a 500 server error.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Andrew Scott 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > ​rotflmao, as a hosting provider you should know better.​
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew Scott
> > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > sorry but you are wrong, as a hosting provider I deal with this all the
> > > time on many many servers.
> > > what I said below is correct.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Andrew Scott 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Russ,
> > > >
> > > > By default IIS is set to either send Detailed if local or Custom if
> > > remote,
> > > > if one is changing this setting on a remote server it is likely to
> be a
> > > > production server and should not be be touched. At least this is the
> > way
> > > I
> > > > read that, but again you don't need to touch any IIS setting when
> > dealing
> > > > with ColdFusion errors at all.
> > > >
> > > > Which can be explained in more detail here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.iis.net/learn/troubleshoot/diagnosing-http-errors/how-to-use-http-detailed-errors-in-iis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Andrew Scott
> > > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > > > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Russ Michaels 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > by default IIS will display a 500 server error if it gets back a CF
> > > error
> > > > > page as it doesn't know what to do with it as it doesn't send a
> valid
> > > > error
> > > > > code that matches any IIS errors.
> > > > > In order to see the REAL cf error you have to turn on detailed
> error
> > > > > messages in IIS, or you have to create a custom error page to
> display
> > > > > instead of the 500 server error.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Russ Michaels]

clealry I do know better than you, I suggest you take off your arrogamce
hat for a while and actually try it with a clean install of IIS and you
will find out that I am correct and that CF errors are not displayed by
default, just a 500 server error.





On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Andrew Scott 
wrote:

>
> ​rotflmao, as a hosting provider you should know better.​
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>
> >
> > sorry but you are wrong, as a hosting provider I deal with this all the
> > time on many many servers.
> > what I said below is correct.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Andrew Scott 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Russ,
> > >
> > > By default IIS is set to either send Detailed if local or Custom if
> > remote,
> > > if one is changing this setting on a remote server it is likely to be a
> > > production server and should not be be touched. At least this is the
> way
> > I
> > > read that, but again you don't need to touch any IIS setting when
> dealing
> > > with ColdFusion errors at all.
> > >
> > > Which can be explained in more detail here.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.iis.net/learn/troubleshoot/diagnosing-http-errors/how-to-use-http-detailed-errors-in-iis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Andrew Scott
> > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Russ Michaels 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > by default IIS will display a 500 server error if it gets back a CF
> > error
> > > > page as it doesn't know what to do with it as it doesn't send a valid
> > > error
> > > > code that matches any IIS errors.
> > > > In order to see the REAL cf error you have to turn on detailed error
> > > > messages in IIS, or you have to create a custom error page to display
> > > > instead of the 500 server error.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

​rotflmao, as a hosting provider you should know better.​

Regards,
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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> sorry but you are wrong, as a hosting provider I deal with this all the
> time on many many servers.
> what I said below is correct.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Andrew Scott 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Russ,
> >
> > By default IIS is set to either send Detailed if local or Custom if
> remote,
> > if one is changing this setting on a remote server it is likely to be a
> > production server and should not be be touched. At least this is the way
> I
> > read that, but again you don't need to touch any IIS setting when dealing
> > with ColdFusion errors at all.
> >
> > Which can be explained in more detail here.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.iis.net/learn/troubleshoot/diagnosing-http-errors/how-to-use-http-detailed-errors-in-iis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew Scott
> > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > by default IIS will display a 500 server error if it gets back a CF
> error
> > > page as it doesn't know what to do with it as it doesn't send a valid
> > error
> > > code that matches any IIS errors.
> > > In order to see the REAL cf error you have to turn on detailed error
> > > messages in IIS, or you have to create a custom error page to display
> > > instead of the 500 server error.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Russ Michaels]

sorry but you are wrong, as a hosting provider I deal with this all the
time on many many servers.
what I said below is correct.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Andrew Scott 
wrote:

>
> Russ,
>
> By default IIS is set to either send Detailed if local or Custom if remote,
> if one is changing this setting on a remote server it is likely to be a
> production server and should not be be touched. At least this is the way I
> read that, but again you don't need to touch any IIS setting when dealing
> with ColdFusion errors at all.
>
> Which can be explained in more detail here.
>
>
> http://www.iis.net/learn/troubleshoot/diagnosing-http-errors/how-to-use-http-detailed-errors-in-iis
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>
> >
> > by default IIS will display a 500 server error if it gets back a CF error
> > page as it doesn't know what to do with it as it doesn't send a valid
> error
> > code that matches any IIS errors.
> > In order to see the REAL cf error you have to turn on detailed error
> > messages in IIS, or you have to create a custom error page to display
> > instead of the 500 server error.
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

Russ,

By default IIS is set to either send Detailed if local or Custom if remote,
if one is changing this setting on a remote server it is likely to be a
production server and should not be be touched. At least this is the way I
read that, but again you don't need to touch any IIS setting when dealing
with ColdFusion errors at all.

Which can be explained in more detail here.

http://www.iis.net/learn/troubleshoot/diagnosing-http-errors/how-to-use-http-detailed-errors-in-iis




Regards,
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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> by default IIS will display a 500 server error if it gets back a CF error
> page as it doesn't know what to do with it as it doesn't send a valid error
> code that matches any IIS errors.
> In order to see the REAL cf error you have to turn on detailed error
> messages in IIS, or you have to create a custom error page to display
> instead of the 500 server error.
>
>


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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Russ Michaels]

by default IIS will display a 500 server error if it gets back a CF error
page as it doesn't know what to do with it as it doesn't send a valid error
code that matches any IIS errors.
In order to see the REAL cf error you have to turn on detailed error
messages in IIS, or you have to create a custom error page to display
instead of the 500 server error.



On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I guess my installs of IIS work, cause the only time I have to make any
> > changes is in CF where it says send HTTP status codes, nothing more and
> > nothing less.
>
> That's good for you! But there are many installs of IIS out there
> besides your own, and those installs might be configured differently
> from yours for a variety of reasons.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
> (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
> authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Dave Watts]

> You're right Dave you may need to re-read the threads again, because I am
> well aware of the error status pages. I was mainly talking to Charles about
> Friendly Error messages when you dropped by, if you are confused by that,
> this is not my problem.

You wrote an email. I responded to that email. If your goal is to
communicate clearly with other people, it is your problem if you are
unable to do that.

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

You're right Dave you may need to re-read the threads again, because I am
well aware of the error status pages. I was mainly talking to Charles about
Friendly Error messages when you dropped by, if you are confused by that,
this is not my problem.

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:20 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > Whatever Dave, like I said this option is for ASP only.
> >
> > Here is a support article that a quick Google search dug up, if you can
> > provide where in IIS you make this change I will eat my words.
> >
> > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/294807?wa=wsignin1.0
>
> I'm not sure what posting a page about an IE issue has to do with IIS.
> It sounds like you're talking about one thing and I'm talking about
> another.
>
> IIS has the ability to postprocess any sort of server-side error
> messages (or any other responses for that matter). This is not
> specific to ASP.NET - it applies to all messages that pass through
> IIS. Here's a screenshot I just put together demonstrating this
> feature.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/tBfFfC9.png
>
> In this screenshot, the only thing I've changed from the default
> behavior is the "Edit Error Pages Settings" - the default value is the
> third radio button.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
> (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
> authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Dave Watts]

> Whatever Dave, like I said this option is for ASP only.
>
> Here is a support article that a quick Google search dug up, if you can
> provide where in IIS you make this change I will eat my words.
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/294807?wa=wsignin1.0

I'm not sure what posting a page about an IE issue has to do with IIS.
It sounds like you're talking about one thing and I'm talking about
another.

IIS has the ability to postprocess any sort of server-side error
messages (or any other responses for that matter). This is not
specific to ASP.NET - it applies to all messages that pass through
IIS. Here's a screenshot I just put together demonstrating this
feature.

http://i.imgur.com/tBfFfC9.png

In this screenshot, the only thing I've changed from the default
behavior is the "Edit Error Pages Settings" - the default value is the
third radio button.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
1-202-527-9569
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
(SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

Mark, going back to your original problem. I am not sure if you have IPv4 &
IPv6 installed, but I just double checked that the local loop backs
addresse for IpV4 & V6 are in my IP debugging list. Can you try adding them
both in and restarting ColdFusion and lets us know how you go.

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:01 AM, Andrew Scott 
wrote:

> Whatever Dave, like I said this option is for ASP only.
>
> Here is a support article that a quick Google search dug up, if you can
> provide where in IIS you make this change I will eat my words.
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/294807?wa=wsignin1.0
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
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>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
>>
>> > This in IIS
>> >
>> > "friendly error messages"
>> >
>> > Has nothing to do with ColdFusion output, nothing at all.
>>
>> No, but that's not what I responded to. Here's what I responded to,
>> specifically:
>>
>> "I am very well aware after nearly 20 years of CF Development how it
>> works, IIS doesn't capture CF errors at all. It only displays what is
>> sent to it, in ColdFusion's case if it is not sending the status codes
>> it usually ends up with a blank page. You can make any adjustments to
>> IIS you like it will make no difference."
>>
>> This has not been true, in my experience. And all it takes is one case
>> where it's not true, to be able to state categorically that it's not
>> always true.
>>
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> 1-202-527-9569
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>>
>> Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
>> (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
>> authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>>
>> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

Whatever Dave, like I said this option is for ASP only.

Here is a support article that a quick Google search dug up, if you can
provide where in IIS you make this change I will eat my words.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/294807?wa=wsignin1.0



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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > This in IIS
> >
> > "friendly error messages"
> >
> > Has nothing to do with ColdFusion output, nothing at all.
>
> No, but that's not what I responded to. Here's what I responded to,
> specifically:
>
> "I am very well aware after nearly 20 years of CF Development how it
> works, IIS doesn't capture CF errors at all. It only displays what is
> sent to it, in ColdFusion's case if it is not sending the status codes
> it usually ends up with a blank page. You can make any adjustments to
> IIS you like it will make no difference."
>
> This has not been true, in my experience. And all it takes is one case
> where it's not true, to be able to state categorically that it's not
> always true.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
> (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
> authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Dave Watts]

> This in IIS
>
> "friendly error messages"
>
> Has nothing to do with ColdFusion output, nothing at all.

No, but that's not what I responded to. Here's what I responded to,
specifically:

"I am very well aware after nearly 20 years of CF Development how it
works, IIS doesn't capture CF errors at all. It only displays what is
sent to it, in ColdFusion's case if it is not sending the status codes
it usually ends up with a blank page. You can make any adjustments to
IIS you like it will make no difference."

This has not been true, in my experience. And all it takes is one case
where it's not true, to be able to state categorically that it's not
always true.

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1-202-527-9569
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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

Charles it is neither here nor there. ColdFusion Robust Exceptions need
this setting to be enabled in ColdFusion, the display friendly error
messages is a browser option and is not something one has to touch anyway.
The other option in IIS is the setting of Custom ASP errors, there is no
other setting in IIS that deals with Friendly error messages. So if you
don't have ASP installed like myself, you will not even see these options
at all.

Now as ColdFusion requires you to have the setting I clearly stated earlier
in the thread, that means Robust Exceptions will be displayed and if you
have the other options set attached to the end of your pages output. There
is NO setting in IIS that can or will need to be touched if this section of
ColdFusion is not working, I made that very clear as well.

I just checked 3 servers here that doesn't have ASP.Net installed, not one
of these servers has any setting that can adjust friendly error messages,
but there is this option in IE if you use IE that is. The only thing I know
of is when you use ASP.Net so that it displays more info than the friendly
message that is displayed. In ASP.Net this is the same as turning on Robust
Exceptions in ColdFusion.





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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles <
char...@sheehanmiles.net> wrote:

>
> I believe the issue here, is that when you have the status code option set
> in ColdFusion, ColdFusion uses an H TTP status of 200, even for error pages.
>
> If you don't have that option, ColdFusion sends out status codes of 500 or
> whatever with there's an eeror. IIS does intercept those.
>
> Forget the imperfect language, I'm dictating to my phone
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Andrew Scott 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > But Dave.
> >
> > This in IIS
> >
> > "friendly error messages"
> >
> > Has nothing to do with ColdFusion output, nothing at all.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew Scott
> > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:23 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I guess my installs of IIS work, cause the only time I have to make any
> >>> changes is in CF where it says send HTTP status codes, nothing more and
> >>> nothing less.
> >>
> >> That's good for you! But there are many installs of IIS out there
> >> besides your own, and those installs might be configured differently
> >> from yours for a variety of reasons.
> >>
> >> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> >> 1-202-527-9569
> >> http://www.figleaf.com/
> >> http://training.figleaf.com/
> >>
> >> Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
> >> (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
> >> authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Charles Sheehan-Miles]

I believe the issue here, is that when you have the status code option set in 
ColdFusion, ColdFusion uses an H TTP status of 200, even for error pages.

If you don't have that option, ColdFusion sends out status codes of 500 or 
whatever with there's an eeror. IIS does intercept those.

Forget the imperfect language, I'm dictating to my phone


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Andrew Scott  wrote:
> 
> 
> But Dave.
> 
> This in IIS
> 
> "friendly error messages"
> 
> Has nothing to do with ColdFusion output, nothing at all.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:23 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I guess my installs of IIS work, cause the only time I have to make any
>>> changes is in CF where it says send HTTP status codes, nothing more and
>>> nothing less.
>> 
>> That's good for you! But there are many installs of IIS out there
>> besides your own, and those installs might be configured differently
>> from yours for a variety of reasons.
>> 
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> 1-202-527-9569
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>> 
>> Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
>> (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
>> authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> 
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

But Dave.

This in IIS

"friendly error messages"

Has nothing to do with ColdFusion output, nothing at all.


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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:23 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I guess my installs of IIS work, cause the only time I have to make any
> > changes is in CF where it says send HTTP status codes, nothing more and
> > nothing less.
>
> That's good for you! But there are many installs of IIS out there
> besides your own, and those installs might be configured differently
> from yours for a variety of reasons.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
> (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
> authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Dave Watts]

> I guess my installs of IIS work, cause the only time I have to make any
> changes is in CF where it says send HTTP status codes, nothing more and
> nothing less.

That's good for you! But there are many installs of IIS out there
besides your own, and those installs might be configured differently
from yours for a variety of reasons.

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1-202-527-9569
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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

I guess my installs of IIS work, cause the only time I have to make any
changes is in CF where it says send HTTP status codes, nothing more and
nothing less.

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I am very well aware after nearly 20 years of CF Development how it
> works,
> > IIS doesn't capture CF errors at all. It only displays what is sent to
> it,
> > in ColdFusion's case if it is not sending the status codes it usually
> ends
> > up with a blank page. You can make any adjustments to IIS you like it
> will
> > make no difference.
>
> That has not been my experience. More than once I've had to change IIS
> settings to view CF's error messages.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
> (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
> authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Dave Watts]

> I am very well aware after nearly 20 years of CF Development how it works,
> IIS doesn't capture CF errors at all. It only displays what is sent to it,
> in ColdFusion's case if it is not sending the status codes it usually ends
> up with a blank page. You can make any adjustments to IIS you like it will
> make no difference.

That has not been my experience. More than once I've had to change IIS
settings to view CF's error messages.

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1-202-527-9569
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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

David,

I am very well aware after nearly 20 years of CF Development how it works,
IIS doesn't capture CF errors at all. It only displays what is sent to it,
in ColdFusion's case if it is not sending the status codes it usually ends
up with a blank page. You can make any adjustments to IIS you like it will
make no difference.


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On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:20 PM, David Phelan 
wrote:

>
> Andrew,
>
> IIS will capture CF errors and display friendly error messages if it is
> set to.  The debugging output, however, should display regardless of this
> setting as, as you stated, it is not an error.  I would look at the source
> to see if the output is being generated and simply being hidden by a code
> or CSS change.  I know  that I've had that happen to me.  Also check to see
> that the setting in the CF admin has not changes to display the output in
> "dockable" state.  If you have your browser set to open everything in new
> tabs, the output would be on a different tab.  I would also, as Russ
> stated, look for CFSETTING tags that might be disabling the output.
>
> But if it suddenly stopped working, then I would suspect an unclosed tag
> or CSS change.
>
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au]
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 2:17 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working
>
>
> Not to mention the display friendly error messages in IIS, is for ASP!!
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > yes that is true, however debug output is not an error, it is the
> > debugging information that added to the bottom of a page.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[David Phelan]

Andrew,

IIS will capture CF errors and display friendly error messages if it is set to. 
 The debugging output, however, should display regardless of this setting as, 
as you stated, it is not an error.  I would look at the source to see if the 
output is being generated and simply being hidden by a code  or CSS change.  I 
know  that I've had that happen to me.  Also check to see that the setting in 
the CF admin has not changes to display the output in "dockable" state.  If you 
have your browser set to open everything in new tabs, the output would be on a 
different tab.  I would also, as Russ stated, look for CFSETTING tags that 
might be disabling the output.

But if it suddenly stopped working, then I would suspect an unclosed tag or CSS 
change.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] 
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 2:17 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working


Not to mention the display friendly error messages in IIS, is for ASP!!

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On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> yes that is true, however debug output is not an error, it is the 
> debugging information that added to the bottom of a page.
>
>




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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

Not to mention the display friendly error messages in IIS, is for ASP!!

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On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> yes that is true, however debug output is not an error, it is the debugging
> information that added to the bottom of a page.
>
>


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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Russ Michaels]

yes that is true, however debug output is not an error, it is the debugging
information that added to the bottom of a page.


On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles <
char...@sheehanmiles.net> wrote:

>
> With all due respect, that’s simply not true.  IIS, depending on your
> settings, will replace coldfusion errors with a blank 500 error page.  A
> simple google search turn up dozens and dozens of times that question was
> asked and resolved by changing IIS settings. That’s how I fixed my dev
> machine a week ago.
>
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13426984/500-internal-server-error-for-sql-server-error
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Andrew Scott 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > IIS friendly error messages has absolutely nothing to do with Robust
> > debugging.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew Scott
> > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles <
> > char...@sheehanmiles.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I had this recently... The problem wasn't Coldfusion at all, it was IIS.
> >> Even locally I couldn't get debugging. Check website settings and make
> sure
> >> "friendly error messages" or whatever it turned off (sorry I'm not at a
> >> computer so can't remember the exact terminology)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

That is correct and why there is a setting in ColdFusion to pass on the
correct HTTP status code to IIS.

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On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles <
char...@sheehanmiles.net> wrote:

>
> With all due respect, that’s simply not true.  IIS, depending on your
> settings, will replace coldfusion errors with a blank 500 error page.  A
> simple google search turn up dozens and dozens of times that question was
> asked and resolved by changing IIS settings. That’s how I fixed my dev
> machine a week ago.
>
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13426984/500-internal-server-error-for-sql-server-error
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Andrew Scott 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > IIS friendly error messages has absolutely nothing to do with Robust
> > debugging.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew Scott
> > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles <
> > char...@sheehanmiles.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I had this recently... The problem wasn't Coldfusion at all, it was IIS.
> >> Even locally I couldn't get debugging. Check website settings and make
> sure
> >> "friendly error messages" or whatever it turned off (sorry I'm not at a
> >> computer so can't remember the exact terminology)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Charles Sheehan-Miles]

With all due respect, that’s simply not true.  IIS, depending on your settings, 
will replace coldfusion errors with a blank 500 error page.  A simple google 
search turn up dozens and dozens of times that question was asked and resolved 
by changing IIS settings. That’s how I fixed my dev machine a week ago.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13426984/500-internal-server-error-for-sql-server-error


> On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Andrew Scott  wrote:
> 
> 
> IIS friendly error messages has absolutely nothing to do with Robust
> debugging.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles <
> char...@sheehanmiles.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I had this recently... The problem wasn't Coldfusion at all, it was IIS.
>> Even locally I couldn't get debugging. Check website settings and make sure
>> "friendly error messages" or whatever it turned off (sorry I'm not at a
>> computer so can't remember the exact terminology)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Andrew Scott]

IIS friendly error messages has absolutely nothing to do with Robust
debugging.


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On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles <
char...@sheehanmiles.net> wrote:

>
> I had this recently... The problem wasn't Coldfusion at all, it was IIS.
> Even locally I couldn't get debugging. Check website settings and make sure
> "friendly error messages" or whatever it turned off (sorry I'm not at a
> computer so can't remember the exact terminology)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>


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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Russ Michaels]

The most common cause is that you have a CFSETTING in your code somewhere
that is preventing the debug output.
Have you tried simply creating a simple test page outside of your
application to check if the debug output works ?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Mark Spence  wrote:

>
> I have added 127.0.0.1 as a ip to serve debug output to, and I have also
> removed all ips to have debug info served to all ips.  Neither results in
> output.
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:59 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>
> >
> > Do you have any ip restrictions set for the debug output?
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Mark Spence 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > For some reason, suddenly debug output has stopped working on my
> > development machine.  I'm not sure why.  I have tried turning it off and
> > on, restarting the server, restarting the box.  Nothing has helped.
> Google
> > has failed me.  Running on windows 8.1 and IIS.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Charles Sheehan-Miles]

I had this recently... The problem wasn't Coldfusion at all, it was IIS. Even 
locally I couldn't get debugging. Check website settings and make sure 
"friendly error messages" or whatever it turned off (sorry I'm not at a 
computer so can't remember the exact terminology)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Mark Spence  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have added 127.0.0.1 as a ip to serve debug output to, and I have also
> removed all ips to have debug info served to all ips.  Neither results in
> output.
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:59 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Do you have any ip restrictions set for the debug output?
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Mark Spence 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> For some reason, suddenly debug output has stopped working on my
>> development machine.  I'm not sure why.  I have tried turning it off and
>> on, restarting the server, restarting the box.  Nothing has helped.  Google
>> has failed me.  Running on windows 8.1 and IIS.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Mark Spence]

I have added 127.0.0.1 as a ip to serve debug output to, and I have also
removed all ips to have debug info served to all ips.  Neither results in
output.

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:59 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> Do you have any ip restrictions set for the debug output?
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Mark Spence 
> wrote:
>
>
> For some reason, suddenly debug output has stopped working on my
> development machine.  I'm not sure why.  I have tried turning it off and
> on, restarting the server, restarting the box.  Nothing has helped.  Google
> has failed me.  Running on windows 8.1 and IIS.
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Enable Request Debugging Output not working

[Russ Michaels]

Do you have any ip restrictions set for the debug output?


On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Mark Spence  wrote:


For some reason, suddenly debug output has stopped working on my
development machine.  I'm not sure why.  I have tried turning it off and
on, restarting the server, restarting the box.  Nothing has helped.  Google
has failed me.  Running on windows 8.1 and IIS.




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Re: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[anene.quorium]

Hi guys,

I havehave

Sent from Samsung tablet


Mike K  wrote:


You probably know already, but I'll say it just in case ... you can rarely
have a 100% clean list. I have found that even after you just clean up
a list, your next mailing will have rejects in it.   Even if it's only a
few minutes since you last cleaned it up.

Your error handling needs to be able to differentiate between temporary
problems (e.g. mailbox full)  and permanent problems (e.g. that user not
known here) .  Your block of ip addresses can be blocked if someone in
the same data centre gets flagged as a spammer.   And that can be only
transient too, so next time you try to bulk email some of the ones that
were rejected as "sender address blocked" are not rejected now.

Then there are the ones that are rejected because their mailbox is full.
It might be full because it's an inactive email address (i.e. permanent) ,
or simply that they have been on vacation and havent picked up email for a
while (i.e. temporary).  Or they might be in arrears with the credit
department at their email hosting service,  which will be cleared again
once they pay their bill.

I usually flag bouncing email addresses  but still include them in the next
couple of emails.  If they bounce 3 times I consider them to be dead and
remove them from the list.


-- 
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
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Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP ans SSL

[Al Musella, DPM]

Paypal support is useless. I contacted them 3 times for another issue 
last week and they couldn't help at all

At 04:11 PM 4/3/2015, you wrote:
>Best option is to contact PayPal support with that question. They should be
>able to point you to the valid certs.


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Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP ans SSL

[Michael van Leest]

Best option is to contact PayPal support with that question. They should be
able to point you to the valid certs.

Good luck, Michael

On Friday, April 3, 2015, Al Musella, DPM  wrote:

>
> So then is the symantec certificate newer? Should I also add
> that?  What is the link to it? They have so many certificates on paypal
>
>
>
> >Verisign certificate products have been taken over by Symantec.
> >
> >2015-04-03 18:54 GMT+02:00 <>:
> >
> > >
> > >  >>Payments were getting processed but the results
> > > confirmation didn't work. This is on Coldfusion 8.
> > >
> > > That was exactly the problem, on CF 9 also.
> > >
> > >  >>the certificate needed is the Verisign G5 certificate
> > >
> > > In my case, the certificate I got from the Paypal site was a Symantec
> > > certificate.
> > > That is probably the problem: Paypal must have moved from Verisign to
> > > Symantec, which is logical since both Paypal ans Symantec are
> > owned by eBay.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP ans SSL

[Al Musella, DPM]

So then is the symantec certificate newer? Should I also add 
that?  What is the link to it? They have so many certificates on paypal



>Verisign certificate products have been taken over by Symantec.
>
>2015-04-03 18:54 GMT+02:00 <>:
>
> >
> >  >>Payments were getting processed but the results
> > confirmation didn't work. This is on Coldfusion 8.
> >
> > That was exactly the problem, on CF 9 also.
> >
> >  >>the certificate needed is the Verisign G5 certificate
> >
> > In my case, the certificate I got from the Paypal site was a Symantec
> > certificate.
> > That is probably the problem: Paypal must have moved from Verisign to
> > Symantec, which is logical since both Paypal ans Symantec are 
> owned by eBay.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[anene.quorium]

Hi guys,

I have a rule of thumb. NEVER DELETE ANY DATA. Be it an obsolete email, a 
diseased customer, etc. I just flag the as NOT TO BE USED. This is because over 
time, someone may decide to activate that data and become your next biggest 
buyer.

Also, with respect to newsletters, I have over 17,000 emails in my list. (I 
know its not as much as yours), but after spending so much with the likes of 
icontact and campaign monitor, I decided to get ingenious. So I segmented the 
list into minor groups of 2,000. Then I churned our this flow in my code:

1. Select all from list table, but group by list name- this is so I can select 
which list to sent to at a time.

2. Put selected list(s) in a table, then loop through each list one by one, 
confirming:

a) if there are valid emails, using the inValid function, else, isolate (don't 
delete)

b) last contact we had with it. This is to watch out for excessive newsletters 
sent to a particular email weekly

c) etc

3. Loop through emails and Send newsletters to each in the batch, using page 
refresh. By this, I can send to as much as 100 emails in every 10 seconds.

Well, its old fashioned, but I get to save newsletters marketing funds. 

Hehe ;)



Best regards,
Chuka Anene
www.Quorium.org

Sent from Samsung tablet


Mike K  wrote:


You probably know already, but I'll say it just in case ... you can rarely
have a 100% clean list. I have found that even after you just clean up
a list, your next mailing will have rejects in it.   Even if it's only a
few minutes since you last cleaned it up.

Your error handling needs to be able to differentiate between temporary
problems (e.g. mailbox full)  and permanent problems (e.g. that user not
known here) .  Your block of ip addresses can be blocked if someone in
the same data centre gets flagged as a spammer.   And that can be only
transient too, so next time you try to bulk email some of the ones that
were rejected as "sender address blocked" are not rejected now.

Then there are the ones that are rejected because their mailbox is full.
It might be full because it's an inactive email address (i.e. permanent) ,
or simply that they have been on vacation and havent picked up email for a
while (i.e. temporary).  Or they might be in arrears with the credit
department at their email hosting service,  which will be cleared again
once they pay their bill.

I usually flag bouncing email addresses  but still include them in the next
couple of emails.  If they bounce 3 times I consider them to be dead and
remove them from the list.


-- 
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
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Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP ans SSL

[Michael van Leest]

Verisign certificate products have been taken over by Symantec.

2015-04-03 18:54 GMT+02:00 <>:

>
>  >>Payments were getting processed but the results
> confirmation didn't work. This is on Coldfusion 8.
>
> That was exactly the problem, on CF 9 also.
>
>  >>the certificate needed is the Verisign G5 certificate
>
> In my case, the certificate I got from the Paypal site was a Symantec
> certificate.
> That is probably the problem: Paypal must have moved from Verisign to
> Symantec, which is logical since both Paypal ans Symantec are owned by eBay.
>
>
> 

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Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP ans SSL

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>Payments were getting processed but the results
confirmation didn't work. This is on Coldfusion 8.

That was exactly the problem, on CF 9 also.

 >>the certificate needed is the Verisign G5 certificate

In my case, the certificate I got from the Paypal site was a Symantec 
certificate.
That is probably the problem: Paypal must have moved from Verisign to Symantec, 
which is logical since both Paypal ans Symantec are owned by eBay.


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Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP ans SSL

[Al Musella, DPM]

When I read these messages, I checked one of my old websites that 
uses paypal integration services and found  that it stopped 
working.  Payments were getting processed but the results 
confirmation didn't work. This is on Coldfusion 8.
Thanks to this thread I found the problem and fixed it.. but just to 
make it faster for others...
the certificate needed is the Verisign G5 certificate which you can 
get at 
https://knowledge.verisign.com/support/mpki-for-ssl-support/index?page=content&actp=CROSSLINK&id=SO5624

To see if you have it installed - and to install it if you don't, use:

https://github.com/webdevsourcerer/CF-CertMan
and install the version for your coldfusion version.

After installing, you need to restart the cold fusion service.

For those that like details, the paypal notice is at 
https://ppmts.custhelp.com/ci/fattach/get/471495/1425083092/redirect/1/filename/2015%20Merchant%20Security%20System%20Upgrade%20Guide%20(U.S.%20English).pdf

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Re: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Kelly Matthews]

Have any of you tried Amazon SES for email?  I paid to clean my list and then 
started using them. 
I can send out 20,000 emails for $2. It’s so much cheaper. I do use a software 
program called Sendy
 in conjunction with Amazon which cost $50 (one time). 

Just thought I’d mention it, but it’s about 2% of the cost to send emails. 

Kelly


> On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Rob Voyle  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Folks
> 
> Robert details all the steps to keeping an email list "clean and valid".
> Having done that in the past and for a list of 5000 addresses I would say it 
> is a 
> far better deal to go with one of the email newsletter companies. Having 
> tried 
> several I can highly recommend mailchimp http://mailchimp.com/
> 
> They offer several benefits.
> 
> 1. They clean the bounced email and keep the list valid. (no programing to 
> write 
> and validate)
> 
> 2. They have deals with ISPs to recognize their bulk email as legit. When I 
> was 
> doing that privately it was a headache to stay on top of all the ISP's spam 
> protections and have my server continually validated. (And if you are on a 
> shared server forget it as you will be vulnerable to all the other user's bad 
> practices and reputation)
> 
> 3. The time saving was well worth the $s
> 
> 4. If you do decide to use a provider check their rules about establishing 
> your 
> list. (some such as icontact will require you to do a new optin on your 
> already 
> established list, and then they will block anyone who does not "re-optin". 
> Those 
> address could then never be resubsbcribed even by their owner.)
> 
> Rob
> Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
> Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
> For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
> Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
>to Resolve Grief and Resentment
> http://www.appreciativeway.com/
> 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Robert Harrison]

I agree that using a third part service is highly desirable, but depending
on the integration and the client it may not be feasible. I clearly have
clients that would never allow their mail list or the mail content to be
placed on any third-party server for compliance and/or security reasons...
real or perceived.

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Re: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Dean Lawrence]

You can also utilize a tool like BoogieBounce by Boogie Tools (
http://www.boogietools.com/). I've used this in the past and it works
great. It allows you to determine the cause of a rejected email (hard
bounce, soft bounce, server unreachable, etc.) and then programmatically
deal with it as needed. I would agree though, over the years I have
switched to using 3rd party mailing services for lists, as the number of
man-hours and headaches caused by managing the email are not worth it.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:37 AM Robert Harrison  wrote:

>
> It is true that using a service like Mail Chimp to validate a mail list is
> an easy way to validate a mail list, but the steps I detailed are a valid
> alternative for any full blown system you may be managing.
>
> I've written systems that have opt-in, opt-out features and utilize a
> variety of merged lists, like customer lists, prospect lists, interest
> lists, etc.  These are lists which are constantly changing based on user
> actions and other factors.  If you're managing a dynamic, living list,
> those
> steps probably are the most valid. For one-offs, the service, as you
> suggest, is probably the best solution.
>
>
> Robert Harrison
> Full Stack Developer
> AIMG
> rharri...@aimg.com
> Main Office: 704-321-1234  ext.118
> Direct Line: 516-302-4345
> www.aimg.com
>
>
> 

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RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Robert Harrison]

> I never use anything but Mail Chimp for bulk mail sends

Honestly, I too highly recommend a service like Mail Chimp or Constant
Contact, or Emma.  They clearly have their place and the headache of getting
blacklisted is miserable, but sometimes you have a situation where the
options and functions are built-into and integrated with the core site (or
sites).  In that case it may be best to 'roll you own' as they say.

Thanks

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RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Robert Harrison]

It is true that using a service like Mail Chimp to validate a mail list is
an easy way to validate a mail list, but the steps I detailed are a valid
alternative for any full blown system you may be managing.  

I've written systems that have opt-in, opt-out features and utilize a
variety of merged lists, like customer lists, prospect lists, interest
lists, etc.  These are lists which are constantly changing based on user
actions and other factors.  If you're managing a dynamic, living list, those
steps probably are the most valid. For one-offs, the service, as you
suggest, is probably the best solution.  
 

Robert Harrison
Full Stack Developer
AIMG
rharri...@aimg.com
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Direct Line: 516-302-4345
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Re: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Maureen]

+1 for Mail Chimp.  I was preparing to post about this but Robert did
a better job of explaining than I could.  I never use anything but
Mail Chimp for bulk mail sends.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Rob Voyle  wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
>
> Robert details all the steps to keeping an email list "clean and valid".
> Having done that in the past and for a list of 5000 addresses I would say it 
> is a
> far better deal to go with one of the email newsletter companies. Having tried
> several I can highly recommend mailchimp http://mailchimp.com/

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Re: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Rob Voyle]

Hi Folks

Robert details all the steps to keeping an email list "clean and valid".
Having done that in the past and for a list of 5000 addresses I would say it is 
a 
far better deal to go with one of the email newsletter companies. Having tried 
several I can highly recommend mailchimp http://mailchimp.com/

 They offer several benefits.

1. They clean the bounced email and keep the list valid. (no programing to 
write 
and validate)

2. They have deals with ISPs to recognize their bulk email as legit. When I was 
doing that privately it was a headache to stay on top of all the ISP's spam 
protections and have my server continually validated. (And if you are on a 
shared server forget it as you will be vulnerable to all the other user's bad 
practices and reputation)

3. The time saving was well worth the $s

4. If you do decide to use a provider check their rules about establishing your 
list. (some such as icontact will require you to do a new optin on your already 
established list, and then they will block anyone who does not "re-optin". 
Those 
address could then never be resubsbcribed even by their owner.)

Rob
Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
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RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Robert Harrison]

The CFTRY and CFCATCH method described earlier is a great method for a
partial scrub. That method will scrub those email addresses which are
malformed or have invalid syntax. That's a great start, but there are two
additional things you should do as well:

 

1.   Use the FAILTO feature of the CFMAIL tag and send the failed mail
to an alternate return address.  This will allow you to identify the mail
where the email address has a valid syntax but is undeliverable.  Of course,
you'll need to parse through the mail to see why it's undeliverable based on
the system messages. Some will be hard failures which are undeliverable
because the email address is invalid or the account is discontinued. Those
are sure fire mails to remove. Others will be soft failures with messages
"mailbox full" or "temporarily unable to connect with server".  Those are
suspect mails and if you keep a history of those, you may see some patterns
like a mail box which is always full.  After several of those type returns
you can probably assume no one is collecting the mail and purge those as
well.



2.   You should also be sure to provide an "Unsubscribe" option on the
mail.  I'd assume you are most likely doing that as that's required by the
CAN SPAM ACT.  You can hook that up to a query so people can just do it
themselves with no action needed from you. 

 

When sending bulk mail to a mail list it's important that you clean the list
of failed mail and provide an opt-out option. Failure to do either could get
your mail server blacklisted. and that's a headache you don't want to deal
with.  A high rate of failed mail and no opt-out feature will get you
blacklisted very quickly. 

 

If you are going to this a lot,  it's also a good idea you allow the mail so
spool (cfmail spoolenable="yes") and you may even want to write a trickle
program to slow down the outbound mail stream.  If you have a bunch a mail
going to the same server (or servers) and you're not trickling the mail, the
server will try to send a bunch very quickly and your mail server could make
multiple connections to the other server. Too many concurrent connections is
another thing that's sets of the SPAM alarms and could also get you
blacklisted.

 

Lastly, to ensure your mail does not go the SPAM box, be sure you test the
content in a SPAM RATING service.  There are a lot of filters you can run
the mail content through and get a rating telling you how 'spamy' the mail
looks. There are a bunch of things they look - various trigger words like
FREE, BUY NOW, VIAGRA, etc., malformed HTML, too many pictures and not
enough text content, etc.

 

Hope this was helpful. 

 

 

Robert Harrison

Full Stack Developer

AIMG

rharri...@aimg.com

Main Office: 704-321-1234  ext.118

Direct Line: 516-302-4345

www.aimg.com

 

 

 



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Re: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Russ Michaels]

Dave,

you can validate your email addresses automatically simply by using the
Likes of Mailchip, which will validate allthe email addresses when you
submit them and remove the bogus ones, it will also automatically remove
bounce addresses for you as well.


On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Dave Long  wrote:

>
> Thanks so much to all and to Mike and William, I will be putting your
> advice
> on the top of my list of things to do. The list in question has
> approximately 5,500 names but, by the time it is cleaned up, will probably
> be closer to 5,000.
>
> The idea of not disturbing subscribers unnecessarily is most attractive.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: William Seiter [mailto:will...@seiter.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 7:32 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list
>
>
> Dave,
>
> You could have your code 'automatically' scrub the list and use a 'log' to
> keep track of the changes.  This way you won't have to do a test run.
> Also, you could set up your code on a 'dummy' email server that will send
> the email but trap it prior to being mailed, this way you don't have to
> bother your recipients list.
> Also, you could create an email validation loop so that you can 'verify'
> the
> list without the concern for sending an email out at all (instead of doing
> a
> 'cfmail' tag, you would do the validation of the email address).
>
> I don't know how large your recipient's list is, but I would try to not
> bother them with testing emails.
>
> Just my 2 pence,
> William
>
>
> ------
> William Seiter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 3:55 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list
>
>
> Thanks to all. The scheme worked perfectly. Next I will have to warn my
> recipients that a test is coming so I can remove invalid recipients.
>
> Unless maybe you can suggest a method to delete them as they occur. I
> intend
> to add a confirmation message requirement to our contact form, which should
> have been there all along, but a means of automatically cleaning the
> existing mailing list would help everyone... me most of all though.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Dave Long
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick [mailto:cfh...@kchost.net]
> Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 5:20 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list
>
>
> 
>
>  Run you CFMAIL..
>
>   Mark email bad in database 
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 5:12 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list
>
>
> I am trying to send a mass mailing to a somewhat carelessly created list of
> contacts using e-mail addresses which were not verified at the time of
> entry. Whenever the cfloop tag comes to an erroneous recipient, it quits
> and
> throws an error. Is there anything I can do to the code to make it keep
> going?
>
> Here's the code:
>
> 
>  from="#Form.Sender#"
> to="#Recipient#"
> subject="#Form.Subject#"
> type="HTML"
> >
>  href="http://www.northgoods.com/global.css"; type="text/css" /> bgcolor="black">
> 
> 
> 
>  bgcolor="black">
> 
> #Form.Message#
> 
> 
> 
>  color="##FF6600">If you would like to be removed fromour mailing list,
> please click here:
>  href="http://www.northgoods.com/unsubscribe.cfm?delEmail=#Recipient#";
> title="UNSUBSCRIBE"> color="white">UNSUBSCRIBE
> You will receive one last
> message from us to confirm your removal from our
> list. 
> 
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Dave Long]

Thanks so much to all and to Mike and William, I will be putting your advice
on the top of my list of things to do. The list in question has
approximately 5,500 names but, by the time it is cleaned up, will probably
be closer to 5,000. 

The idea of not disturbing subscribers unnecessarily is most attractive.

Thanks again.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: William Seiter [mailto:will...@seiter.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 7:32 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list


Dave,

You could have your code 'automatically' scrub the list and use a 'log' to
keep track of the changes.  This way you won't have to do a test run.  
Also, you could set up your code on a 'dummy' email server that will send
the email but trap it prior to being mailed, this way you don't have to
bother your recipients list.
Also, you could create an email validation loop so that you can 'verify' the
list without the concern for sending an email out at all (instead of doing a
'cfmail' tag, you would do the validation of the email address).

I don't know how large your recipient's list is, but I would try to not
bother them with testing emails.

Just my 2 pence,
William


--
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 3:55 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list


Thanks to all. The scheme worked perfectly. Next I will have to warn my
recipients that a test is coming so I can remove invalid recipients. 

Unless maybe you can suggest a method to delete them as they occur. I intend
to add a confirmation message requirement to our contact form, which should
have been there all along, but a means of automatically cleaning the
existing mailing list would help everyone... me most of all though.

Thanks again for your help.

Dave Long

-Original Message-
From: Rick [mailto:cfh...@kchost.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 5:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list




 Run you CFMAIL..

  Mark email bad in database 



-Original Message-
From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 5:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list


I am trying to send a mass mailing to a somewhat carelessly created list of
contacts using e-mail addresses which were not verified at the time of
entry. Whenever the cfloop tag comes to an erroneous recipient, it quits and
throws an error. Is there anything I can do to the code to make it keep
going?

Here's the code:



http://www.northgoods.com/global.css"; type="text/css" />





#Form.Message#



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Re: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Mike K]

You probably know already, but I'll say it just in case ... you can rarely
have a 100% clean list. I have found that even after you just clean up
a list, your next mailing will have rejects in it.   Even if it's only a
few minutes since you last cleaned it up.

Your error handling needs to be able to differentiate between temporary
problems (e.g. mailbox full)  and permanent problems (e.g. that user not
known here) .  Your block of ip addresses can be blocked if someone in
the same data centre gets flagged as a spammer.   And that can be only
transient too, so next time you try to bulk email some of the ones that
were rejected as "sender address blocked" are not rejected now.

Then there are the ones that are rejected because their mailbox is full.
It might be full because it's an inactive email address (i.e. permanent) ,
or simply that they have been on vacation and havent picked up email for a
while (i.e. temporary).  Or they might be in arrears with the credit
department at their email hosting service,  which will be cleared again
once they pay their bill.

I usually flag bouncing email addresses  but still include them in the next
couple of emails.  If they bounce 3 times I consider them to be dead and
remove them from the list.


-- 
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
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RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[William Seiter]

Dave,

You could have your code 'automatically' scrub the list and use a 'log' to
keep track of the changes.  This way you won't have to do a test run.  
Also, you could set up your code on a 'dummy' email server that will send
the email but trap it prior to being mailed, this way you don't have to
bother your recipients list.
Also, you could create an email validation loop so that you can 'verify' the
list without the concern for sending an email out at all (instead of doing a
'cfmail' tag, you would do the validation of the email address).

I don't know how large your recipient's list is, but I would try to not
bother them with testing emails.

Just my 2 pence,
William


--
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 3:55 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list


Thanks to all. The scheme worked perfectly. Next I will have to warn my
recipients that a test is coming so I can remove invalid recipients. 

Unless maybe you can suggest a method to delete them as they occur. I intend
to add a confirmation message requirement to our contact form, which should
have been there all along, but a means of automatically cleaning the
existing mailing list would help everyone... me most of all though.

Thanks again for your help.

Dave Long

-Original Message-
From: Rick [mailto:cfh...@kchost.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 5:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list




 Run you CFMAIL..

  Mark email bad in database 



-Original Message-
From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 5:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list


I am trying to send a mass mailing to a somewhat carelessly created list of
contacts using e-mail addresses which were not verified at the time of
entry. Whenever the cfloop tag comes to an erroneous recipient, it quits and
throws an error. Is there anything I can do to the code to make it keep
going?

Here's the code:



http://www.northgoods.com/global.css"; type="text/css" />





#Form.Message#



If you would like to be removed fromour mailing list,
please click here:
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RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Dave Long]

Thanks to all. The scheme worked perfectly. Next I will have to warn my
recipients that a test is coming so I can remove invalid recipients. 

Unless maybe you can suggest a method to delete them as they occur. I intend
to add a confirmation message requirement to our contact form, which should
have been there all along, but a means of automatically cleaning the
existing mailing list would help everyone... me most of all though.

Thanks again for your help.

Dave Long

-Original Message-
From: Rick [mailto:cfh...@kchost.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 5:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list




 Run you CFMAIL..

  Mark email bad in database 



-Original Message-
From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 5:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list


I am trying to send a mass mailing to a somewhat carelessly created list of
contacts using e-mail addresses which were not verified at the time of
entry. Whenever the cfloop tag comes to an erroneous recipient, it quits and
throws an error. Is there anything I can do to the code to make it keep
going?

Here's the code:



http://www.northgoods.com/global.css"; type="text/css" />





#Form.Message#



If you would like to be removed fromour mailing list,
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RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Rick]

 Run you CFMAIL..

  Mark email bad in database




-Original Message-
From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 5:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list


I am trying to send a mass mailing to a somewhat carelessly created list of
contacts using e-mail addresses which were not verified at the time of
entry. Whenever the cfloop tag comes to an erroneous recipient, it quits and
throws an error. Is there anything I can do to the code to make it keep
going?

Here's the code:



http://www.northgoods.com/global.css"; type="text/css" />





#Form.Message#



If you would like to be removed fromour mailing list,
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http://www.northgoods.com/unsubscribe.cfm?delEmail=#Recipient#";
title="UNSUBSCRIBE">UNSUBSCRIBE
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RE: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Mark A Kruger]

Dave,

A) What is the error. Fixing the error will keep your loop going.
B) Using a try/catch INSIDE the loop will allow you to keep it going - with
the caveat that you will miss whatever email throws the error so you might
want to log that inside the catch.

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 5:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list


I am trying to send a mass mailing to a somewhat carelessly created list of
contacts using e-mail addresses which were not verified at the time of
entry. Whenever the cfloop tag comes to an erroneous recipient, it quits and
throws an error. Is there anything I can do to the code to make it keep
going?

Here's the code:



http://www.northgoods.com/global.css"; type="text/css" />





#Form.Message#



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Re: Handling invalid recipient in mailing list

[Bryan Stevenson]

You  may want to add a cftry/cfcatch (around the cfmail block) so when 
the error occurs it can be handled gracefully via cfcatch (like tagging 
the recipient record as having a bad address) and the loop will keep 
going - valid recipients get their mail and the others can be cleansed 
from the list ;-)

HTH

Cheers

*Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm.
President & CEO
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS™
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On 2015-04-02 3:11 PM, Dave Long wrote:
> I am trying to send a mass mailing to a somewhat carelessly created list of
> contacts using e-mail addresses which were not verified at the time of
> entry. Whenever the cfloop tag comes to an erroneous recipient, it quits and
> throws an error. Is there anything I can do to the code to make it keep
> going?
>
> Here's the code:
>
>   
>  from="#Form.Sender#"
>   to="#Recipient#"
>   subject="#Form.Subject#"
>   type="HTML"
>   >
>  href="http://www.northgoods.com/global.css"; type="text/css" /> bgcolor="black">
>   
>   
>   
>bgcolor="black">
>   
>   #Form.Message#
>   
>   
>   
>color="##FF6600">If you would like to be removed fromour mailing list,
> please click here:
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Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP ans SSL

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>you need to import the certificate to the java
cacerts as a trusted certificate to by-pass the security matching.

That was the trick. I imported the Paypal certificate and now it works.
Thanks a lot.


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RE: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[UXB Internet]

>  Please don't do it off-list, several of us could be interested.

In case anyone is interested, as Claude recommended, It was relatively easy
to check for the foreign script injection by myturfads.com.   There is a
test page with the code located at http://www.uxb.net/adtest/ that will look
to see if your client is seeing the Google ad being replaced by the
myturfads.com 

In case you are wondering what I am talking about.   Some ISP's are using a
proxy technology that in real time intercepts the Google Ad JavaScript code
and replaces it with their own advertising from a company (MyTurf -
www.myturfads.com) that specializes in injecting local advertising into
existing ad spaces for Local ISP's.They replace the google or double
click JS code with their own and can add/inject  pop-up and video ads into
sites that only use text or image advertising from Google. Very Annoying!

Based on the testing I have done with one of my more trafficked sites that
have ads on them (hce.halomaps.org) there are at least two ISP's that are
using the ad-replacement proxy technology in three different regions:
Brewster NY, Denver CO.  and  Boise ID.  NY and CO were Comcast and  ID was
CenturyLink.  I am seeing multiple IPS from each area, mostly in the same B
and C blocks.

The way the test page works is that after loading it looks for any script
called from "myturfads.com" on the page and then lists the scripts and warns
if one was found.  If one was found it performs an AJAX call and sends me an
email with the client IP. 

I have contacted and opened a case with Google about this and they were very
interested, but of course I only get to deal with the front line support
person so I have no idea what they intend.  I also contacted a copyright law
firm and they were interested but because it is Google's Code and not mine
that is being replaced an infringement case would be tough.  Not only that
but apparently there is no case law that says the ISP cannot replace or
inject scripts. To proceed further it would require I cover legal research
costs to see  if there was a case to be had.It gets all muddy,
especially now with the FCC's new Net Neutrality regulations still not fully
defined and already under legal attack.

I find this behavior on the part of the ISP's abhorrent and dangerous.
Right now they are replacing advertising and stealing revenue from the
advertiser and Web Publisher. But they could just as easily replace articles
or any real content on the fly as well.  And the worst of it is that there
is apparently no legal precedent to the contrary. 

Thanks for listening.


Dennis Powers
UXB Internet - A website Design and Hosting Company 
P.O. Box 6028, Wolcott, CT 06716 - T:203-879-2844
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Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP and SSL

[Wil Genovese]

If they have disable the older SSL protocols here are two blog posts I did on 
how to handle that with CFHTTP and your Java version.

Java Version
http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/2014/11/24/ColdFusion-JVM-SSL-CA-CERTS-and-POODLE

CFHTTP and JVM switches 
http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/2014/12/8/Preventing-SSLv3-Fallback-in-ColdFusion

If they have disabled TLSv1.0 then we could have bigger troubles.

Regards,
Wil



Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

wilg...@trunkful.com
www.trunkful.com

> On Apr 1, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
> 
> 
> I suspect they disabled various ssl protocols due to poodle, you should ask
> them. The default response ro poodle was to disable everything except
> latest tls version, which is not supported out of the box by the jvm that
> ships with cf9.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 18:33 PM, <> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I have an application under CF 9 with a paiment module using Paypal.
> At the end of the process, Paypal acknowledges the paiement and my app
> calls a Paypal page to validate the whole operation. This is done with a
> CFHTTP call
> This application has been working fine for years with no modification, bur
> all of a sudden starting March 23rd, I get this error:
> I/O Exception: peer not authenticated
> It appears to be an error with the SSL certificate, but how come ?
> The Paypal site is verified by Verisign.
> What ca I do?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP and SSL

[Russ Michaels]

I suspect they disabled various ssl protocols due to poodle, you should ask
them. The default response ro poodle was to disable everything except
latest tls version, which is not supported out of the box by the jvm that
ships with cf9.


On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 18:33 PM, <> wrote:


Hi,
I have an application under CF 9 with a paiment module using Paypal.
At the end of the process, Paypal acknowledges the paiement and my app
calls a Paypal page to validate the whole operation. This is done with a
CFHTTP call
This application has been working fine for years with no modification, bur
all of a sudden starting March 23rd, I get this error:
I/O Exception: peer not authenticated
It appears to be an error with the SSL certificate, but how come ?
The Paypal site is verified by Verisign.
What ca I do?




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Re: File Upload/Management

[Russ Michaels]

There is a cffilemanager, also if you look on the Ckeditor site they also
do a file manager, don't recall if there is a xf version. Tinymce also do
one I believe.


On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 21:03 PM, Robert Harrison  wrote:


I have a client who wants to be able to manage a file library on the server
with multi-file uploads, file renaming, and directory organization.

I've used Plupload and it's a good tool for multi file uploads, but I'm not
really familiar with any tools that allows for directory management on the
server. They want to be able to browse, upload, rename, and add descriptions
of files; almost like an FTP program but something that runs in the browser
and can be integrated into forms.

Anyone familiar with any plugs-ins or third-party packages that may be
useful...  any links to any packages you may know of would be helpful.

Thanks

Robert Harrison
Full Stack Developer
AIMG
rharri...@aimg.com 
Main Office: 704-321-1234  ext.118
Direct Line: 516-302-4345
www.aimg.com





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RE: Sudden error with CFHTTP and SSL

[Kurt Kaptein]

Try taking the restricted ip addresses out of your paypal account - we ran
into this as well and after 2 days of battling it, this did fix the issue
for us

Sincerely,

Kurt Kaptein
President
Spectrum Net Designs, Inc
PO Box 806
Grandville, MI 49468

Ph: 616-538-2914
Toll Free: 866-773-2638
Fax: 616-538-5691

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Email: k...@spectrumnetdesigns.com

-Original Message-
From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 3:29 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP and SSL


This sounds like it could be the Poodle vulnerability that I faced a few
months back when Chase Paymentech disabled SSL 3.0. What version of Java is
the server running? Java 7 allows SSL 3.0 to negotiate using TLS. I had to
convince my host to update from Java 6.



On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:33 PM, <> wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I have an application under CF 9 with a paiment module using Paypal.
> At the end of the process, Paypal acknowledges the paiement and my app 
> calls a Paypal page to validate the whole operation. This is done with 
> a CFHTTP call This application has been working fine for years with no 
> modification, bur all of a sudden starting March 23rd, I get this 
> error:
> I/O Exception: peer not authenticated
> It appears to be an error with the SSL certificate, but how come ?
> The Paypal site is verified by Verisign.
> What ca I do?
>
>
> 



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Re: Test

[Michael Grant]

Not working. Please try again.


On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:29 PM, <> wrote:

>
> Is this list working?
>
>
> 

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Re: Sudden error with CFHTTP and SSL

[Michael Grant]

This sounds like it could be the Poodle vulnerability that I faced a few
months back when Chase Paymentech disabled SSL 3.0. What version of Java is
the server running? Java 7 allows SSL 3.0 to negotiate using TLS. I had to
convince my host to update from Java 6.



On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:33 PM, <> wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I have an application under CF 9 with a paiment module using Paypal.
> At the end of the process, Paypal acknowledges the paiement and my app
> calls a Paypal page to validate the whole operation. This is done with a
> CFHTTP call
> This application has been working fine for years with no modification, bur
> all of a sudden starting March 23rd, I get this error:
> I/O Exception: peer not authenticated
> It appears to be an error with the SSL certificate, but how come ?
> The Paypal site is verified by Verisign.
> What ca I do?
>
>
> 

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Re: Azure Storage

[Bobby]

Sorry about the double post. The list was acting up yesterday.

On 3/30/15, 9:49 AM, "Bobby"  wrote:

>
>Anyone managed to get Azure blob storage working in CF? There are very few
>examples out there and virtually none in CF.
>
>I©öm mostly just having issues with the authorization header
>formatting/encoding and wondered if anyone had any working examples.
>
>Unfortunately, this is a CF8 project.
>
>
>
>

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