Re: cfmail causing problems for our server

2014-12-16 Thread Will Swain

Mandrill is excellent. We've used it for a while. Just whack their smtp
server into the cf admin and off you go. It's more customisable than that
of course, but the base function of running your mail through their servers
should do the job.

On 10 December 2014 at 23:35, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:


 if it is just bulk SMTP you need then www.mandrill.com allows 12,000 per
 month for free.
 For something more advanced try www.sendgrid.com, they also offer an API
 which allows you to send emails without using CFMAIL or SMTP which has its
 benefits.

 If you want an actual mailing list manager then mailchimp.com


 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:

 
  My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to
 intermittent
  e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider
 tells
  me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering
  blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and
  additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail
  service instead.
 
  Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell
 the
  DB?
 
  Thank you.
 
  Dave Long
  NorthGoods Merchant Services
 
 
 
 
 

 

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RE: cfmail causing problems for our server

2014-12-10 Thread Robert Harrison

Use a mail relay like STMP.com.  Just change the smtp server for your mail
blast to send through the relay.  


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-Original Message-
From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:23 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: cfmail causing problems for our server


My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent
e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells
me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering
blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and
additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail
service instead.

Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the
DB?

Thank you.

Dave Long
NorthGoods Merchant Services






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Re: cfmail causing problems for our server

2014-12-10 Thread Steve Milburn

Amazon SES was made for just this type of scenario.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:


 My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent
 e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells
 me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering
 blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and
 additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail
 service instead.

 Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the
 DB?

 Thank you.

 Dave Long
 NorthGoods Merchant Services




 

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Re: cfmail causing problems for our server

2014-12-10 Thread Jon Clausen

My recommendation would be to have them create a MailChimp or Vertical Response 
(Constant Contact, Exact Target, etc.) account and just send emails through 
their API.  VR’s API is especially easy to send custom HTML through 
(http://developers.verticalresponse.com/docs/read/api_reference/emails ).  Then 
you can also ensure CAN-SPAM compliance as well.

If you’re using a CMS to send the mail through, then you might need to create a 
module to hook in to the main mailing list feature, but the long-term result 
would be better.

Jon

On Dec 10, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:

 
 My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent
 e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells
 me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering
 blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and
 additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail
 service instead.
 
 Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the
 DB?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Dave Long
 NorthGoods Merchant Services
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: cfmail causing problems for our server

2014-12-10 Thread Rob Voyle

I use and like mail chimp
Rob


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div Original message /divdivFrom: Dave Long 
d...@northgoods.com /divdivDate:12/10/2014  12:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
/divdivTo: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com /divdivSubject: cfmail 
causing problems for our server /divdiv
/div
My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent
e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells
me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering
blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and
additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail
service instead.

Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the
DB?

Thank you.

Dave Long
NorthGoods Merchant Services






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RE: cfmail causing problems for our server

2014-12-10 Thread Dave Long

Thanks, everyone. I'll check them out.

-Original Message-
From: Rob Voyle [mailto:robvo...@voyle.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 12:42 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: cfmail causing problems for our server


I use and like mail chimp
Rob


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

div Original message /divdivFrom: Dave Long
d...@northgoods.com /divdivDate:12/10/2014  12:23 PM  (GMT-06:00)
/divdivTo: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com /divdivSubject:
cfmail causing problems for our server /divdiv /div My customer's site
allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent e-mail notifications
regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells me that use of cfmail
to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering blacklisting when we use it
to notify subscribers of event changes and additions. He (the hosting
provider) insists we use a third party e-mail service instead.

Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the
DB?

Thank you.

Dave Long
NorthGoods Merchant Services








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Re: cfmail causing problems for our server

2014-12-10 Thread Russ Michaels

if it is just bulk SMTP you need then www.mandrill.com allows 12,000 per
month for free.
For something more advanced try www.sendgrid.com, they also offer an API
which allows you to send emails without using CFMAIL or SMTP which has its
benefits.

If you want an actual mailing list manager then mailchimp.com


On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:


 My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent
 e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells
 me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering
 blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and
 additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail
 service instead.

 Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the
 DB?

 Thank you.

 Dave Long
 NorthGoods Merchant Services




 

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Re: cfmail and special characters

2014-09-13 Thread Uwe Degenhardt

Hi David, thank you.
I ended up with a workaround similar to it:

cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist 
verfuegbar type=HTML
Sehr geehrter ...,
Mit freundlichen Grouml;ssen
/cfmail

So for ü (e.g.) I typed: uuml;

Not nice, but at least it works.
Uwe


 Have you tried using HTMLEditFormat?

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 IT Security  Web Technologies

 Emerging Health
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 www.montefiore.org

 
 From: Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:51 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: cfmail and special characters

 Hi Philipp,
 thanks. Unfortunately, that doesn't work either.
 Has anybody any other ideas ?

 @Philipp,  can  you  send  me  one  cfmail-code  snippet  with special
 characters that runs on your CF8/Linux-box as an example ?

 Uwe


 am Mittwoch, 10. September 2014 um 09:24 schrieben Sie:



 Uwe,

 try cfmail charset=utf-8“...

 Gruß,

 Philipp


 Am 10.09.2014 um 09:17 schrieb Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de:


 Hi Everybody,
 to be honest: I am pulling my hair out !
 I have a problem with cfmail and special characters.
 The german umlaute seem to be displayed wrong.
 This is the code:

 cfcontent type=text/html; charset=utf-8
 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/
 cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist 
 verfuegbar
 CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=utf-8
 Sehr geehrter ...,
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 /cfmail

 I have also tried:

 cfcontent type=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/
 cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist 
 verfuegbar
 CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=iso-8859-1
 Sehr geehrter ...,
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 /cfmail

 Concerning the  last  line  I  always  got: Mit freundlichen Gr??en instead 
 of Mit
 freundlichen Grüßen

 I  tried  this  on  my  ColdFusion  8  box with Windows. Absolutely no
 problem  at  all. When I switch to Linux (Debian or CentOS) it doesn't
 work.

 I  also  tried  to  change  the charset on my linux boxes. No positive
 result. I tried to change the Mail Charset Settings in CF already.
 With also no positive results.

 Has anybody any other ideas ?

 Uwe









 

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RE: cfmail and special characters

2014-09-12 Thread David Phelan

Have you tried using HTMLEditFormat?

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From: Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:51 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cfmail and special characters

Hi Philipp,
thanks. Unfortunately, that doesn't work either.
Has anybody any other ideas ?

@Philipp,  can  you  send  me  one  cfmail-code  snippet  with special
characters that runs on your CF8/Linux-box as an example ?

Uwe


am Mittwoch, 10. September 2014 um 09:24 schrieben Sie:



 Uwe,

 try cfmail charset=utf-8“...

 Gruß,

 Philipp


 Am 10.09.2014 um 09:17 schrieb Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de:


 Hi Everybody,
 to be honest: I am pulling my hair out !
 I have a problem with cfmail and special characters.
 The german umlaute seem to be displayed wrong.
 This is the code:

 cfcontent type=text/html; charset=utf-8
 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/
 cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist 
 verfuegbar
 CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=utf-8
 Sehr geehrter ...,
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 /cfmail

 I have also tried:

 cfcontent type=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/
 cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist 
 verfuegbar
 CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=iso-8859-1
 Sehr geehrter ...,
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 /cfmail

 Concerning the  last  line  I  always  got: Mit freundlichen Gr??en instead 
 of Mit
 freundlichen Grüßen

 I  tried  this  on  my  ColdFusion  8  box with Windows. Absolutely no
 problem  at  all. When I switch to Linux (Debian or CentOS) it doesn't
 work.

 I  also  tried  to  change  the charset on my linux boxes. No positive
 result. I tried to change the Mail Charset Settings in CF already.
 With also no positive results.

 Has anybody any other ideas ?

 Uwe









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Re: cfmail and special characters

2014-09-10 Thread Philipp Cielen

Uwe, 

try cfmail charset=utf-8“...

Gruß,

Philipp


 Am 10.09.2014 um 09:17 schrieb Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de:
 
 
 Hi Everybody,
 to be honest: I am pulling my hair out !
 I have a problem with cfmail and special characters.
 The german umlaute seem to be displayed wrong.
 This is the code:
 
 cfcontent type=text/html; charset=utf-8
 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/
 cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist 
 verfuegbar
 CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=utf-8
 Sehr geehrter ...,
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 /cfmail
 
 I have also tried:
 
 cfcontent type=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/
 cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist 
 verfuegbar
 CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=iso-8859-1
 Sehr geehrter ...,
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 /cfmail
 
 Concerning the  last  line  I  always  got: Mit freundlichen Gr??en instead 
 of Mit
 freundlichen Grüßen
 
 I  tried  this  on  my  ColdFusion  8  box with Windows. Absolutely no
 problem  at  all. When I switch to Linux (Debian or CentOS) it doesn't
 work.
 
 I  also  tried  to  change  the charset on my linux boxes. No positive
 result. I tried to change the Mail Charset Settings in CF already.
 With also no positive results.
 
 Has anybody any other ideas ?
 
 Uwe
 
 
 
 

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Re: cfmail and special characters

2014-09-10 Thread Uwe Degenhardt

Hi Philipp,
thanks. Unfortunately, that doesn't work either.
Has anybody any other ideas ?

@Philipp,  can  you  send  me  one  cfmail-code  snippet  with special
characters that runs on your CF8/Linux-box as an example ?

Uwe


am Mittwoch, 10. September 2014 um 09:24 schrieben Sie:



 Uwe, 

 try cfmail charset=utf-8“...

 Gruß,

 Philipp


 Am 10.09.2014 um 09:17 schrieb Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de:
 
 
 Hi Everybody,
 to be honest: I am pulling my hair out !
 I have a problem with cfmail and special characters.
 The german umlaute seem to be displayed wrong.
 This is the code:
 
 cfcontent type=text/html; charset=utf-8
 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/
 cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist 
 verfuegbar
 CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=utf-8
 Sehr geehrter ...,
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 /cfmail
 
 I have also tried:
 
 cfcontent type=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/
 cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist 
 verfuegbar
 CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=iso-8859-1
 Sehr geehrter ...,
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 /cfmail
 
 Concerning the  last  line  I  always  got: Mit freundlichen Gr??en instead 
 of Mit
 freundlichen Grüßen
 
 I  tried  this  on  my  ColdFusion  8  box with Windows. Absolutely no
 problem  at  all. When I switch to Linux (Debian or CentOS) it doesn't
 work.
 
 I  also  tried  to  change  the charset on my linux boxes. No positive
 result. I tried to change the Mail Charset Settings in CF already.
 With also no positive results.
 
 Has anybody any other ideas ?
 
 Uwe
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: CFMAIL - SASL

2013-11-08 Thread Russ Michaels

SMTP authentication is an SMTP setting on the mail server not a cfmail
setting, cfmail simply sends the username/password to authenticate.



On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Robert Harrison
rob...@austin-williams.comwrote:


 I'm trying to set up CFMAIL to use a relay server for one of my clients.
 The relay service says:

 Make sure  that SMTP authentication (SASL) is turned ON

 I don't see any such setting in CFMAIL.  Anyone know what this means?

 Thanks


 Robert Harrison
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 Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
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Re: CFMAIL - SASL

2013-11-08 Thread Russ Michaels

if you want all emails to send using the same details, just set them in the
cfadmin.


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:

 SMTP authentication is an SMTP setting on the mail server not a cfmail
 setting, cfmail simply sends the username/password to authenticate.



 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Robert Harrison 
 rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:


 I'm trying to set up CFMAIL to use a relay server for one of my clients.
 The relay service says:

 Make sure  that SMTP authentication (SASL) is turned ON

 I don't see any such setting in CFMAIL.  Anyone know what this means?

 Thanks


 Robert Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services

 Austin  Williams
 Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
 T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

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RE: CFMAIL - SASL

2013-11-08 Thread Robert Harrison

Thanks... that probably will not be the case.  I'll send the bulk email through 
the service. I'll probably keep the forms and such using the internal server.


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-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFMAIL - SASL


if you want all emails to send using the same details, just set them in the 
cfadmin.


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:

 SMTP authentication is an SMTP setting on the mail server not a cfmail 
 setting, cfmail simply sends the username/password to authenticate.



 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Robert Harrison  
 rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:


 I'm trying to set up CFMAIL to use a relay server for one of my clients.
 The relay service says:

 Make sure  that SMTP authentication (SASL) is turned ON

 I don't see any such setting in CFMAIL.  Anyone know what this means?

 Thanks


 Robert Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services

 Austin  Williams
 Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
 T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

 Blog:  http://www.austin-williams.com/blog
 Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_

 



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Re: CFMAIL - SASL

2013-11-08 Thread Jochem van Dieten

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Robert Harrison wrote:

 I'm trying to set up CFMAIL to use a relay server for one of my clients.
 The relay service says:

 Make sure  that SMTP authentication (SASL) is turned ON

 I don't see any such setting in CFMAIL.  Anyone know what this means


SASL is an authentication protocol. Your best bet is to make sure you use
both TLS and a username and password.

Jochem


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Re: cfmail Exchange 2010

2013-09-09 Thread Cameron Childress

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:

 We moved to google apps and never looked back. I now use hmail or smarter
 mail for smtp which is stress free.


+1

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RE: cfmail Exchange 2010

2013-09-06 Thread Rick Sanders

Dave I want to thank you for your help. I resolved the issue.

Because my Exchange server and CF server are on different machines I had to 
create a new receive connector allowing relay from the IP address of my CF 
server. Out of the box, Exchange doesn't allow any relay from a remote machine.

Your note made me realize this and I was able to resolve it:
 That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange 
 server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each 
 individual IP address that you want to allow.

Have a great weekend.

Kind Regards,

Rick Sanders
T: 902-401-7689
W: www.webenergy.ca



-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:33 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cfmail  Exchange 2010


 OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the 
 account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com

 I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the 
 people in my query. The emails are valid.
 However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them.
 Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and 
 I don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I 
 tested and can send to my gmail account from the 
 t...@mycompany.commailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems.

 My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange 
 server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and tried 
 with and without TLS and the settings are fine.

 By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have 
 to specifically configure it to do so. Messages to Exchange mailboxes on 
 that server don't need to be proxied, so they get delivered.

 Thanks for the info, but my Exchange server is set up to send to the 
 outside world. My send connector type is SMTP. I even tried relaying 
 through my ISP as a smart host and still no sending to outside addresses 
 from my Cold fusion Server.

 That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange 
 server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each 
 individual IP address that you want to allow.

In any case, you can verify this easily enough yourself. Open a telnet 
connection to your Exchange server from your CF server's console, and try to 
send an email that way. Google smtp telnet for more information on how to do 
that.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and 
provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training 
centers, online, or onsite.



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Re: cfmail Exchange 2010

2013-09-06 Thread Dave Watts

 Have a great weekend.

You too!

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RE: cfmail Exchange 2010

2013-09-06 Thread Russ Michaels

We had an exchange server once and it was a nightmare and the guy who was
supposed to manage it had clearly bitten off more thsn he could chew and
barely knew what he was doing and it was falling over all the time.
I spent a few days working on it and would have tore my hair out if if I
had any.
I have worked with many mail servers over the years and exchange makes
simple things complicated, tskes 100 times longer to do anything and many
things cannot even be done via the gui. Everything seems to be a bolt on
after thought.

We moved to google apps and never looked back. I now use hmail or smarter
mail for smtp which is stress free.

Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
cfmldeveloper.com
cflive.net
cfsearch.com
On 6 Sep 2013 22:01, Rick Sanders r...@webenergy.ca wrote:


 Dave I want to thank you for your help. I resolved the issue.

 Because my Exchange server and CF server are on different machines I had
 to create a new receive connector allowing relay from the IP address of my
 CF server. Out of the box, Exchange doesn't allow any relay from a remote
 machine.

 Your note made me realize this and I was able to resolve it:
  That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange
  server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each
  individual IP address that you want to allow.

 Have a great weekend.

 Kind Regards,

 Rick Sanders
 T: 902-401-7689
 W: www.webenergy.ca



 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:33 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: cfmail  Exchange 2010


  OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the
  account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com
 
  I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the
 people in my query. The emails are valid.
  However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them.
  Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and
  I don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I
  tested and can send to my gmail account from the t...@mycompany.com
 mailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems.
 
  My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange
  server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and
 tried with and without TLS and the settings are fine.
 
  By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have
  to specifically configure it to do so. Messages to Exchange mailboxes
 on that server don't need to be proxied, so they get delivered.
 
  Thanks for the info, but my Exchange server is set up to send to the
  outside world. My send connector type is SMTP. I even tried relaying
  through my ISP as a smart host and still no sending to outside
 addresses from my Cold fusion Server.
 
  That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange
  server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each
  individual IP address that you want to allow.

 In any case, you can verify this easily enough yourself. Open a telnet
 connection to your Exchange server from your CF server's console, and try
 to send an email that way. Google smtp telnet for more information on how
 to do that.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA
 Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at
 our training centers, online, or onsite.



 

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Re: cfmail Exchange 2010

2013-09-04 Thread Dave Watts

 OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the account I 
 set up t...@mycompany.com
 mailto:t...@mycompany.com

 I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the people 
 in my query. The emails are valid.
 However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them. Anyone 
 outside doesn't get them. I tested
 with my gmail account and I don't receive the email. But I get it on my 
 exchange account. I tested and can send
 to my gmail account from the t...@mycompany.commailto:t...@mycompany.com 
 directly no problems.

 My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange server. I've 
 tested the mail settings in the Cold
 fusion admin and tried with and without TLS and the settings are fine.

By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have
to specifically configure it to do so. Messages to Exchange mailboxes
on that server don't need to be proxied, so they get delivered.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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RE: cfmail Exchange 2010

2013-09-04 Thread Rick Sanders

Thanks for the info, but my Exchange server is set up to send to the outside 
world. My send connector type is SMTP. I even tried relaying through my ISP as 
a smart host and still no sending to outside addresses from my Cold fusion 
Server.

Kind Regards,

Rick Sanders
T: 902-401-7689
W: www.webenergy.ca



-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 5:18 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cfmail  Exchange 2010


 OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the 
 account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com

 I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the people 
 in my query. The emails are valid.
 However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them. 
 Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and I 
 don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I tested and 
 can send to my gmail account from the 
 t...@mycompany.commailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems.

 My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange 
 server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and tried with 
 and without TLS and the settings are fine.

By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have to 
specifically configure it to do so. Messages to Exchange mailboxes on that 
server don't need to be proxied, so they get delivered.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and 
provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training 
centers, online, or onsite.



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Re: cfmail Exchange 2010

2013-09-04 Thread Dave Watts

 OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the
 account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com

 I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the 
 people in my query. The emails are valid.
 However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them.
 Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and I
 don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I tested and 
 can send to my gmail account from
 the t...@mycompany.commailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems.

 My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange
 server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and tried 
 with and without TLS and the settings are fine.

 By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have to 
 specifically configure it to do so. Messages
 to Exchange mailboxes on that server don't need to be proxied, so they get 
 delivered.

 Thanks for the info, but my Exchange server is set up to send to the outside 
 world. My send connector type is
 SMTP. I even tried relaying through my ISP as a smart host and still no 
 sending to outside addresses from my
 Cold fusion Server.

That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange
server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each
individual IP address that you want to allow.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: cfmail Exchange 2010

2013-09-04 Thread Dave Watts

 OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the
 account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com

 I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the 
 people in my query. The emails are valid.
 However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them.
 Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and I
 don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I tested and 
 can send to my gmail account from
 the t...@mycompany.commailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems.

 My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange
 server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and tried 
 with and without TLS and the settings are fine.

 By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have to 
 specifically configure it to do so. Messages
 to Exchange mailboxes on that server don't need to be proxied, so they get 
 delivered.

 Thanks for the info, but my Exchange server is set up to send to the outside 
 world. My send connector type is
 SMTP. I even tried relaying through my ISP as a smart host and still no 
 sending to outside addresses from my
 Cold fusion Server.

 That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange
 server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each
 individual IP address that you want to allow.

In any case, you can verify this easily enough yourself. Open a telnet
connection to your Exchange server from your CF server's console, and
try to send an email that way. Google smtp telnet for more
information on how to do that.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: CFMail Question

2013-07-03 Thread Robert Sneed

Thanks a lot for your help Mark!
The following suggestion worked perfectly.
cfifstructKeyExists(form,'maillist')YescfelseNo/cfif

Robert

Robert,


Since the box is either checked or Unchecked that's all you need. You
don't really need to worry about the value at all. If the form field shows
up then the user checked the box. That's how checkboxes work.

Subscribe To Newsletter? cfif
structKetyExists(form,'maillist')YescfelseNo/cfif

Notice I use structkey exists. Also you do not need pound signs around
#form.mailist# unless you intend for it to be displayed :)

Here's another approach for you.

In the checkbox attributes set value=1 (instead of zero). Then wherever
you set up default values add this cfparam.


cfparam name=form.maillist default=0/


Then you can leverage the YesNoFormat(  ) function of CF... 

Subscribe To e-Newsletter?  #yesNoFormat(form.maillist)#


Good luck!



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I hope someone can help me with this. I'm kind of stuck on the conditional..

I have a newsletter signup form that includes a check box that is check by
default.

label for=mailListinput checked=checked id=mailList name=mailList
tabindex=14 type=checkbox value=0 width=5px /span
class=checkboxI would like to receive your e-newsletter./span/label

I'm trying to email the answer, yes or no, based on whether or not the box
is checked. Here is the conditional code between my cfmail/cfmail tags..

Subscribe to e-newsletter? cfif isDefined(form.mailList) AND
Len(form.mailList)cfif NOT
Compare(#form.mailList#,0)yescfelseno/cfif/cfif

If someone checks the box I get the sentence Subscribe to e-newsletter?
Yes in an email. If someone does not check the box I get Subscribe to
e-newsletter? I can't figure out how to get the No to show up in the
email when the box is not checked.

I feal like I'm close here but just can't seem to get the No answer
emailed when the box is not checked.

Thanks a lot for your help!!

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RE: CFMail Question

2013-07-03 Thread Mark A Kruger

Glad to help :)

-Original Message-
From: Robert Sneed [mailto:robertsn...@rhsneed.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:49 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFMail Question


Thanks a lot for your help Mark!
The following suggestion worked perfectly.
cfifstructKeyExists(form,'maillist')YescfelseNo/cfif

Robert

Robert,


Since the box is either checked or Unchecked that's all you need. 
You don't really need to worry about the value at all. If the form 
field shows up then the user checked the box. That's how checkboxes work.

Subscribe To Newsletter? cfif
structKetyExists(form,'maillist')YescfelseNo/cfif

Notice I use structkey exists. Also you do not need pound signs around 
#form.mailist# unless you intend for it to be displayed :)

Here's another approach for you.

In the checkbox attributes set value=1 (instead of zero). Then 
wherever you set up default values add this cfparam.


cfparam name=form.maillist default=0/


Then you can leverage the YesNoFormat(  ) function of CF... 

Subscribe To e-Newsletter?  #yesNoFormat(form.maillist)#


Good luck!



Mark Kruger - CFG
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
O: 402.932.3318
E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com
Skype: markakruger




I hope someone can help me with this. I'm kind of stuck on the
conditional..

I have a newsletter signup form that includes a check box that is check 
by default.

label for=mailListinput checked=checked id=mailList
name=mailList
tabindex=14 type=checkbox value=0 width=5px /span 
class=checkboxI would like to receive your 
e-newsletter./span/label

I'm trying to email the answer, yes or no, based on whether or not the 
box is checked. Here is the conditional code between my cfmail/cfmail
tags..

Subscribe to e-newsletter? cfif isDefined(form.mailList) AND 
Len(form.mailList)cfif NOT 
Compare(#form.mailList#,0)yescfelseno/cfif/cfif

If someone checks the box I get the sentence Subscribe to e-newsletter?
Yes in an email. If someone does not check the box I get Subscribe to 
e-newsletter? I can't figure out how to get the No to show up in the 
email when the box is not checked.

I feal like I'm close here but just can't seem to get the No answer 
emailed when the box is not checked.

Thanks a lot for your help!!



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Re: CFMail Question

2013-06-28 Thread Justin Scott

By default the form field will only exist if the checkbox is checked,
so you could do:

Subscribe to newsletter?
cfoutput#yesNoFormat(isDefined(form.mailList))#/cfoutput

As an aside, in the anti-spam and e-mail deliverability communities it
is generally considered a bad practice to have these sorts of options
checked by default.


-Justin



On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Robert Sneed robertsn...@rhsneed.com wrote:

 I hope someone can help me with this. I'm kind of stuck on the conditional.

 I have a newsletter signup form that includes a check box that is check by 
 default.

 label for=mailListinput checked=checked id=mailList name=mailList 
 tabindex=14 type=checkbox value=0 width=5px /span 
 class=checkboxI would like to receive your e-newsletter./span/label

 I'm trying to email the answer, yes or no, based on whether or not the box is 
 checked. Here is the conditional code between my cfmail/cfmail tags.

 Subscribe to e-newsletter? cfif isDefined(form.mailList) AND 
 Len(form.mailList)cfif NOT 
 Compare(#form.mailList#,0)yescfelseno/cfif/cfif

 If someone checks the box I get the sentence Subscribe to e-newsletter? Yes 
 in an email. If someone does not check the box I get Subscribe to 
 e-newsletter? I can't figure out how to get the No to show up in the email 
 when the box is not checked.

 I feal like I'm close here but just can't seem to get the No answer emailed 
 when the box is not checked.

 Thanks a lot for your help!!

 

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RE: CFMail Question

2013-06-28 Thread Mark A Kruger

Robert,


Since the box is either checked or Unchecked that's all you need. You
don't really need to worry about the value at all. If the form field shows
up then the user checked the box. That's how checkboxes work.

Subscribe To Newsletter? cfif
structKetyExists(form,'maillist')YescfelseNo/cfif

Notice I use structkey exists. Also you do not need pound signs around
#form.mailist# unless you intend for it to be displayed :)

Here's another approach for you.

In the checkbox attributes set value=1 (instead of zero). Then wherever
you set up default values add this cfparam.


cfparam name=form.maillist default=0/


Then you can leverage the YesNoFormat(  ) function of CF... 

Subscribe To e-Newsletter?  #yesNoFormat(form.maillist)#


Good luck!



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www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
O: 402.932.3318
E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com
Skype: markakruger




-Original Message-
From: Robert Sneed [mailto:robertsn...@rhsneed.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:17 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CFMail Question


I hope someone can help me with this. I'm kind of stuck on the conditional.

I have a newsletter signup form that includes a check box that is check by
default.

label for=mailListinput checked=checked id=mailList name=mailList
tabindex=14 type=checkbox value=0 width=5px /span
class=checkboxI would like to receive your e-newsletter./span/label

I'm trying to email the answer, yes or no, based on whether or not the box
is checked. Here is the conditional code between my cfmail/cfmail tags.

Subscribe to e-newsletter? cfif isDefined(form.mailList) AND
Len(form.mailList)cfif NOT
Compare(#form.mailList#,0)yescfelseno/cfif/cfif

If someone checks the box I get the sentence Subscribe to e-newsletter?
Yes in an email. If someone does not check the box I get Subscribe to
e-newsletter? I can't figure out how to get the No to show up in the
email when the box is not checked.

I feal like I'm close here but just can't seem to get the No answer
emailed when the box is not checked.

Thanks a lot for your help!! 



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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

2013-06-21 Thread Zad I

So are you saying that some emails with no body are sending? You should
test this to be sure.
I would still change these emails if I were you and add a body as it seems
that solves the issue.
Plus emails eith no body will br blocked by some mail filters.

Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
 On 19 Jun 2013 14:11, Zad I zadi...@gmail.com wrote:

 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

2013-06-21 Thread Zad I

Yes, we regularly send out emails to both internal and external users with no 
body in the email.  The only content that it includes is an attachment and 
subject.  But I guess it might be a good thing to include content from here on 
end, especially if it falls within the rules of RFC email compliance.  

Occasionally, I've seen this error happen right after a failed connectivity 
issue with ColdFusion and the SMTP server. If any emails just so happen to be 
in queue during the time of the SMTP connection error, then the mails in the 
spool folder all get sent to the Undeliverable folder. Then when our custom 
script kicks in to re-spool, it goes right back to undeliverable folder. The 
error in the logs gives us the same message about the body missing.  

So are you saying that some emails with no body are sending? You should
test this to be sure.
I would still change these emails if I were you and add a body as it seems
that solves the issue.
Plus emails eith no body will br blocked by some mail filters.

Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
 On 19 Jun 2013 14:11, Zad I zadi...@gmail.com wrote:

 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

2013-06-19 Thread Zad I

Hmmm, if it is enforced then why so randomly?  I would've expected this to 
occur on every instance.  You do bring up a good point though in terms of 
reaching external users who may have rules that are a bit more strict than the 
norm.  Except, this seems to occur locally before it can even hit externally.  


it is actually an RFC that an email must have a body, so I suspect that is
now enforced in javax.mail.which is a good thing, as this means it is RFC
compliant.
As you have said that adding a body to these messages makes them send, then
you have already found the solution, just add a body to the original emails.





 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

2013-06-19 Thread Russ Michaels

So are you saying that some emails with no body are sending? You should
test this to be sure.
I would still change these emails if I were you and add a body as it seems
that solves the issue.
Plus emails eith no body will br blocked by some mail filters.

Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
 On 19 Jun 2013 14:11, Zad I zadi...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hmmm, if it is enforced then why so randomly?  I would've expected this to
 occur on every instance.  You do bring up a good point though in terms of
 reaching external users who may have rules that are a bit more strict than
 the norm.  Except, this seems to occur locally before it can even hit
 externally.


 it is actually an RFC that an email must have a body, so I suspect that is
 now enforced in javax.mail.which is a good thing, as this means it is RFC
 compliant.
 As you have said that adding a body to these messages makes them send,
 then
 you have already found the solution, just add a body to the original
 emails.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

2013-06-18 Thread Wil Genovese

Please attach the code used to generate the emails. We will need that to have 
any ideas on why they are not working.


Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

wilg...@trunkful.com
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Zad I zadi...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Ever since upgrading to CF10, we've been having some odd issues with our 
 automated ColdFusion emails.  The processes always functioned properly in the 
 past, but lately we've been getting some very out of the ordinary issues 
 which I'll describe further below.
 
 We discover the problem usually from contacts who usually receive these 
 emails on a daily basis with or without attachments.  We'll go to the CFMAIL 
 directory for the corresponding server and find a slew of emails stuck in the 
 'Undelivr' emails.  In some cases, we can just move these emails to the Spool 
 folder and they process fine, but in most cases they result in one of the two 
 errors below:
 
 Error 1: In an email which normally does not contain a body and contains an 
 attachment, the follow error is what we found in the logs:
 -
 Error,scheduler-1,01/15/13,14:09:56,,javax.mail.MessagingExce ption: 
 missing body for message
 javax.mail.MessagingException: missing body for message
at coldfusion.mail.MailImpl.createMessage(MailImpl.java:696)
at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliver(MailSpooler.java:1295)
at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.sendMail(MailSpooler.java:1197)
at 
 coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliverFast(MailSpooler.java:1657)
at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.run(MailSpooler.java:1567)
at coldfusion.scheduling.ThreadPool.run(ThreadPool.java:211)
at coldfusion.scheduling.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:71)
 ---
 Placing these emails that have always been sent out this way in the past 
 without an attachment in the spool directory causes it to go right back in 
 the 'Undelivr' folder and resulting in the same error.  We ended up having to 
 modify the email file and add random content in the body message, place it 
 back in the spool directory, and it went through.  - Mind boggling.
 
 Error 2:
 --
 Error,scheduler-2,02/04/13,09:08:17,,javax.mail.MessagingExce ption: 
 Exception reading response;   nested exception is:  
 java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
 
 Both errors occur randomly and we have not been able to find out what causes 
 them randomly from time to time.  All other emails go through fine, but 
 certain emails will never go out and end up in the 'Undelivr' folder. 
 
 We are running them on Windows Server 2008 64bit. 
 
 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

2013-06-18 Thread Russ Michaels

it is actually an RFC that an email must have a body, so I suspect that is
now enforced in javax.mail.which is a good thing, as this means it is RFC
compliant.
As you have said that adding a body to these messages makes them send, then
you have already found the solution, just add a body to the original emails.



On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Zad I zadi...@gmail.com wrote:


 Ever since upgrading to CF10, we've been having some odd issues with our
 automated ColdFusion emails.  The processes always functioned properly in
 the past, but lately we've been getting some very out of the ordinary
 issues which I'll describe further below.

 We discover the problem usually from contacts who usually receive these
 emails on a daily basis with or without attachments.  We'll go to the
 CFMAIL directory for the corresponding server and find a slew of emails
 stuck in the 'Undelivr' emails.  In some cases, we can just move these
 emails to the Spool folder and they process fine, but in most cases they
 result in one of the two errors below:

 Error 1: In an email which normally does not contain a body and contains
 an attachment, the follow error is what we found in the logs:
 -
 Error,scheduler-1,01/15/13,14:09:56,,javax.mail.MessagingExce
 ption: missing body for message
 javax.mail.MessagingException: missing body for message
 at
 coldfusion.mail.MailImpl.createMessage(MailImpl.java:696)
 at
 coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliver(MailSpooler.java:1295)
 at
 coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.sendMail(MailSpooler.java:1197)
 at
 coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliverFast(MailSpooler.java:1657)
 at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.run(MailSpooler.java:1567)
 at
 coldfusion.scheduling.ThreadPool.run(ThreadPool.java:211)
 at
 coldfusion.scheduling.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:71)
 ---
 Placing these emails that have always been sent out this way in the past
 without an attachment in the spool directory causes it to go right back in
 the 'Undelivr' folder and resulting in the same error.  We ended up having
 to modify the email file and add random content in the body message, place
 it back in the spool directory, and it went through.  - Mind boggling.

 Error 2:
 --
 Error,scheduler-2,02/04/13,09:08:17,,javax.mail.MessagingExce
 ption: Exception reading response;   nested exception is:
  java.net.SocketException: Connection reset

 Both errors occur randomly and we have not been able to find out what
 causes them randomly from time to time.  All other emails go through fine,
 but certain emails will never go out and end up in the 'Undelivr' folder.

 We are running them on Windows Server 2008 64bit.

 

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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-06 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades

Russ,

I think you have missed my point. There are thousands of posts on the 
Adobe Forums, where people have documented that they have some issue or 
another, where often they haven't even tried to dig down to the true 
core of those issues. There are many times where someone says this 
doesn't work, and place the blame in the wrong direction. I'm not 
saying that this is the case here, I'm just saying that, in my 
experience these problems typically exist outside of the application 
server. Not saying there aren't hiccups, or that things have always been 
perfect, but I am saying this requires full examination before pointing 
fingers. I am also saying that, personally, I have always discovered 
that these issues are not in the app server, but in some external system 
or process.

Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Adobe Community Professional
Adobe Certified Expert
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

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On 4/5/2013 12:00 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
 Steve,

 I think you have missed the point.
 Other people do have this issue and have had this issue, it is documented
 on the Adobe forums, as I have mentioned, so it is not a one
 off co-occurrence, as an Adobe Community Professional, I would have
 thought you would use the Adobe forums and be aware of common issues.
 Many more people could be having this issue than documented or realised
 simply because they are not aware of the missing emails.
 Your scenario is unique to you, it doesn't apply to every one else.

 We for example run servers with hundreds of websites, all sending emails
 to different destinations, we have absolutely no idea if any of those
 emails do not get sent and no way to tell unless a client tells us, and
 they would have no way to know unless someone tells them.







 On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
 cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:

 You would think that's the case, but it really wasn't. Ours was a lead
 generation system for sales people. When leads were submitted on the
 sites (2000+), they were cataloged in the db, available in an admin
 interface, and emailed to the salespeople, or their CRM systems, etc. If
 the client saw a lead in the admin that was not received by them, or
 their CRM, they were very quick to raise the flag, because that would
 mean they might be losing leads (and potential sales). So, while we
 might not have been notified of every instance, it's unlikely that there
 were very many we wouldn't have heard about.

 We experienced issues. But, in the end, each issue could be explained.
 One time the systems team changed the IP address of the SMTP server. My
 boss had originally configured the mail settings in the servers with IPs
 instead of domain names. It took 5 hours to respool all of the messages.
 Another time one client stopped receiving all comms from their site.
 Turns out they had their email hosted through a third party, and the IP
 of our SMTP server had been blacklisted because of another client doing
 bulk emailers. That same blacklist was used by multiple mail service
 providers.

 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
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 On 4/5/2013 6:50 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
 Dozens is literally nothing out of 800k per day. Imagine saying you are
 aware of every tv show on every channel, every day, how would you know
 of a
 glitch or disruption  in any of those programmes unless you are watching
 them all or someone tells you. Even if someone told you about a couple of
 channels, there are hundreds of others you are still unaware of.
 The chances of you being aware of or told of every missing email when you
 send large qualtities is almost impossible.
 So anyone certainly could have this issue without realising. I am not
 saying that you do have this issue, simply that you could.

 If you check the Adobe forums you will see those other reports I
 mentioned
 of this same issue.

 Regards
 Russ Michaels
 www.michaels.me.uk
 www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
 www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
 On Apr 5, 2013 11:30 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
 cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:

 I've had dozens of reports of missing mail, and it has always come down
 to something other than CF. The email address was wrong, the SMTP server
 was down, the domain of the sender had been blacklisted, something along
 these kind of lines.

 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe 

Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-06 Thread Russ Michaels

it has been shown on all the reported instances I saw that the mails in
question never reached the smtp server as did not show in the mail  logs on
the  server despite cf saying hey were sent, and were not in undelivered
folder, they simply vanished.
I'm afraid I can't think of any better ways to explain it, and I don't
really have the time or inclination to go trudging through the forums
trying to prove it to you, so a non believer you must remain.

Regards
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www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
On Apr 6, 2013 6:05 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:


 Russ,

 I think you have missed my point. There are thousands of posts on the
 Adobe Forums, where people have documented that they have some issue or
 another, where often they haven't even tried to dig down to the true
 core of those issues. There are many times where someone says this
 doesn't work, and place the blame in the wrong direction. I'm not
 saying that this is the case here, I'm just saying that, in my
 experience these problems typically exist outside of the application
 server. Not saying there aren't hiccups, or that things have always been
 perfect, but I am saying this requires full examination before pointing
 fingers. I am also saying that, personally, I have always discovered
 that these issues are not in the app server, but in some external system
 or process.

 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 http://cutterscrossing.com


 Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010

 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book

 The best way to predict the future is to help create it

 On 4/5/2013 12:00 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
  Steve,
 
  I think you have missed the point.
  Other people do have this issue and have had this issue, it is documented
  on the Adobe forums, as I have mentioned, so it is not a one
  off co-occurrence, as an Adobe Community Professional, I would have
  thought you would use the Adobe forums and be aware of common issues.
  Many more people could be having this issue than documented or realised
  simply because they are not aware of the missing emails.
  Your scenario is unique to you, it doesn't apply to every one else.
 
  We for example run servers with hundreds of websites, all sending emails
  to different destinations, we have absolutely no idea if any of those
  emails do not get sent and no way to tell unless a client tells us, and
  they would have no way to know unless someone tells them.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
  cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:
 
  You would think that's the case, but it really wasn't. Ours was a lead
  generation system for sales people. When leads were submitted on the
  sites (2000+), they were cataloged in the db, available in an admin
  interface, and emailed to the salespeople, or their CRM systems, etc. If
  the client saw a lead in the admin that was not received by them, or
  their CRM, they were very quick to raise the flag, because that would
  mean they might be losing leads (and potential sales). So, while we
  might not have been notified of every instance, it's unlikely that there
  were very many we wouldn't have heard about.
 
  We experienced issues. But, in the end, each issue could be explained.
  One time the systems team changed the IP address of the SMTP server. My
  boss had originally configured the mail settings in the servers with IPs
  instead of domain names. It took 5 hours to respool all of the messages.
  Another time one client stopped receiving all comms from their site.
  Turns out they had their email hosted through a third party, and the IP
  of our SMTP server had been blacklisted because of another client doing
  bulk emailers. That same blacklist was used by multiple mail service
  providers.
 
  Steve 'Cutter' Blades
  Adobe Community Professional
  Adobe Certified Expert
  Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
  
  http://cutterscrossing.com
 
 
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  The best way to predict the future is to help create it
 
  On 4/5/2013 6:50 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
  Dozens is literally nothing out of 800k per day. Imagine saying you are
  aware of every tv show on every channel, every day, how would you know
  of a
  glitch or disruption  in any of those programmes unless you are
 watching
  them all or someone tells you. Even if someone told you about a couple
 of
  channels, there are hundreds of others you are still unaware of.
  The chances of you being aware of or told of every missing email when
 you
  send large qualtities is almost impossible.
  

Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-06 Thread Dave Watts

 it has been shown on all the reported instances I saw that the mails in
 question never reached the smtp server as did not show in the mail  logs on
 the  server despite cf saying hey were sent, and were not in undelivered
 folder, they simply vanished.

So if you have one log file that says CF sent the message
successfully, and another log file that says that your mail server
didn't receive a message, why do you assume that the mail server log
is right and the CF log is wrong? I mean, there's a big difference
between just failing to deliver a message, and both failing to deliver
a message but also logging that the message was sent!

I can think of one case where I've run into a similar issue, and the
root case was a spam filtering measure on the recipient server. CF
said it had been sent, but the recipient system (Postini) did not list
it. It turned out to be a feature in Postini called Blatant Spam
Blocking which caused the incoming message to be dropped and not
delivered or even logged by Postini.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-06 Thread WebSite CFTalk

Where is the like button in here :-)

Sendt fra min iPad

Den 6. apr. 2013 kl. 21:23 skrev Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com:

 
 it has been shown on all the reported instances I saw that the mails in
 question never reached the smtp server as did not show in the mail  logs on
 the  server despite cf saying hey were sent, and were not in undelivered
 folder, they simply vanished.
 
 So if you have one log file that says CF sent the message
 successfully, and another log file that says that your mail server
 didn't receive a message, why do you assume that the mail server log
 is right and the CF log is wrong? I mean, there's a big difference
 between just failing to deliver a message, and both failing to deliver
 a message but also logging that the message was sent!
 
 I can think of one case where I've run into a similar issue, and the
 root case was a spam filtering measure on the recipient server. CF
 said it had been sent, but the recipient system (Postini) did not list
 it. It turned out to be a feature in Postini called Blatant Spam
 Blocking which caused the incoming message to be dropped and not
 delivered or even logged by Postini.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/
 
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 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-05 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades

I've had dozens of reports of missing mail, and it has always come down 
to something other than CF. The email address was wrong, the SMTP server 
was down, the domain of the sender had been blacklisted, something along 
these kind of lines.

Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Adobe Community Professional
Adobe Certified Expert
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

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On 4/4/2013 5:26 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
 This has been reported many times on the forums.
 You say it has not happened to you, but how would know unless someone
 actually contacted you to say they had not reveived an email and you
 investigated it.  In most cases of missing email, someone simply resends it
 and your none the wiser.

 Regards
 Russ Michaels
 www.michaels.me.uk
 www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
 www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
 On Apr 4, 2013 9:48 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
 cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:

 That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that
 has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP
 server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran
 processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day.

 When you say there is no record on the mail server, do you mean the
 recipient server? Or the SMTP server? Is there a spam filtering server
 in between somewhere? Does your CF server authenticate with your SMTP
 server on send? What sort of security checks and balances are setup on
 your SMTP server?

 If you have an entry in the CF Sent Mail log, then there was a valid
 handoff of your message to your SMTP server. If the hand off fails, it
 drops to the Undelivered folder.

 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 http://cutterscrossing.com


 Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010

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 On 4/4/2013 12:15 PM, Brian Cain wrote:
 I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail
 messages.  The mail log show the messages being delivered to the mail
 server, but there is no record on the mail server.  I found this thread on
 Adobe's website (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585718), but there never
 seemed to be an actual resolution of the issue.  I have tried contacting
 Adobe support, but that has led to nowhere.  Most messages go out, but i
 need 100% reliability for this.  Seeing as the problem is not with the
 CFMAIL tag, or my mail server (everything worked fine before we migrated to
 CF9 last year), I need an alternative that will completely bypass the CF
 engine all together.
 I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions.



 

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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-05 Thread Russ Michaels

Dozens is literally nothing out of 800k per day. Imagine saying you are
aware of every tv show on every channel, every day, how would you know of a
glitch or disruption  in any of those programmes unless you are watching
them all or someone tells you. Even if someone told you about a couple of
channels, there are hundreds of others you are still unaware of.
The chances of you being aware of or told of every missing email when you
send large qualtities is almost impossible.
So anyone certainly could have this issue without realising. I am not
saying that you do have this issue, simply that you could.

If you check the Adobe forums you will see those other reports I mentioned
of this same issue.

Regards
Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
On Apr 5, 2013 11:30 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:


 I've had dozens of reports of missing mail, and it has always come down
 to something other than CF. The email address was wrong, the SMTP server
 was down, the domain of the sender had been blacklisted, something along
 these kind of lines.

 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 http://cutterscrossing.com


 Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010

 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book

 The best way to predict the future is to help create it

 On 4/4/2013 5:26 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
  This has been reported many times on the forums.
  You say it has not happened to you, but how would know unless someone
  actually contacted you to say they had not reveived an email and you
  investigated it.  In most cases of missing email, someone simply resends
 it
  and your none the wiser.
 
  Regards
  Russ Michaels
  www.michaels.me.uk
  www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
  www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
  On Apr 4, 2013 9:48 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
  cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:
 
  That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that
  has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP
  server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran
  processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day.
 
  When you say there is no record on the mail server, do you mean the
  recipient server? Or the SMTP server? Is there a spam filtering server
  in between somewhere? Does your CF server authenticate with your SMTP
  server on send? What sort of security checks and balances are setup on
  your SMTP server?
 
  If you have an entry in the CF Sent Mail log, then there was a valid
  handoff of your message to your SMTP server. If the hand off fails, it
  drops to the Undelivered folder.
 
  Steve 'Cutter' Blades
  Adobe Community Professional
  Adobe Certified Expert
  Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
  
  http://cutterscrossing.com
 
 
  Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010
 
 
 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
 
  The best way to predict the future is to help create it
 
  On 4/4/2013 12:15 PM, Brian Cain wrote:
  I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail
  messages.  The mail log show the messages being delivered to the mail
  server, but there is no record on the mail server.  I found this thread
 on
  Adobe's website (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585718), but there
 never
  seemed to be an actual resolution of the issue.  I have tried contacting
  Adobe support, but that has led to nowhere.  Most messages go out, but i
  need 100% reliability for this.  Seeing as the problem is not with the
  CFMAIL tag, or my mail server (everything worked fine before we
 migrated to
  CF9 last year), I need an alternative that will completely bypass the CF
  engine all together.
  I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions.
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-05 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades

You would think that's the case, but it really wasn't. Ours was a lead 
generation system for sales people. When leads were submitted on the 
sites (2000+), they were cataloged in the db, available in an admin 
interface, and emailed to the salespeople, or their CRM systems, etc. If 
the client saw a lead in the admin that was not received by them, or 
their CRM, they were very quick to raise the flag, because that would 
mean they might be losing leads (and potential sales). So, while we 
might not have been notified of every instance, it's unlikely that there 
were very many we wouldn't have heard about.

We experienced issues. But, in the end, each issue could be explained. 
One time the systems team changed the IP address of the SMTP server. My 
boss had originally configured the mail settings in the servers with IPs 
instead of domain names. It took 5 hours to respool all of the messages. 
Another time one client stopped receiving all comms from their site. 
Turns out they had their email hosted through a third party, and the IP 
of our SMTP server had been blacklisted because of another client doing 
bulk emailers. That same blacklist was used by multiple mail service 
providers.

Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Adobe Community Professional
Adobe Certified Expert
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

http://cutterscrossing.com


Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010
https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book

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On 4/5/2013 6:50 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
 Dozens is literally nothing out of 800k per day. Imagine saying you are
 aware of every tv show on every channel, every day, how would you know of a
 glitch or disruption  in any of those programmes unless you are watching
 them all or someone tells you. Even if someone told you about a couple of
 channels, there are hundreds of others you are still unaware of.
 The chances of you being aware of or told of every missing email when you
 send large qualtities is almost impossible.
 So anyone certainly could have this issue without realising. I am not
 saying that you do have this issue, simply that you could.

 If you check the Adobe forums you will see those other reports I mentioned
 of this same issue.

 Regards
 Russ Michaels
 www.michaels.me.uk
 www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
 www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
 On Apr 5, 2013 11:30 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
 cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:

 I've had dozens of reports of missing mail, and it has always come down
 to something other than CF. The email address was wrong, the SMTP server
 was down, the domain of the sender had been blacklisted, something along
 these kind of lines.

 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 http://cutterscrossing.com


 Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010

 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book

 The best way to predict the future is to help create it

 On 4/4/2013 5:26 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
 This has been reported many times on the forums.
 You say it has not happened to you, but how would know unless someone
 actually contacted you to say they had not reveived an email and you
 investigated it.  In most cases of missing email, someone simply resends
 it
 and your none the wiser.

 Regards
 Russ Michaels
 www.michaels.me.uk
 www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
 www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
 On Apr 4, 2013 9:48 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
 cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:

 That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that
 has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP
 server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran
 processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day.

 When you say there is no record on the mail server, do you mean the
 recipient server? Or the SMTP server? Is there a spam filtering server
 in between somewhere? Does your CF server authenticate with your SMTP
 server on send? What sort of security checks and balances are setup on
 your SMTP server?

 If you have an entry in the CF Sent Mail log, then there was a valid
 handoff of your message to your SMTP server. If the hand off fails, it
 drops to the Undelivered folder.

 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 http://cutterscrossing.com


 Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010


 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
 The best way to predict the future is to help create it

 On 4/4/2013 12:15 PM, Brian Cain wrote:
 I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail
 messages.  The 

Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-05 Thread Russ Michaels

Steve,

I think you have missed the point.
Other people do have this issue and have had this issue, it is documented
on the Adobe forums, as I have mentioned, so it is not a one
off co-occurrence, as an Adobe Community Professional, I would have
thought you would use the Adobe forums and be aware of common issues.
Many more people could be having this issue than documented or realised
simply because they are not aware of the missing emails.
Your scenario is unique to you, it doesn't apply to every one else.

We for example run servers with hundreds of websites, all sending emails
to different destinations, we have absolutely no idea if any of those
emails do not get sent and no way to tell unless a client tells us, and
they would have no way to know unless someone tells them.







On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:


 You would think that's the case, but it really wasn't. Ours was a lead
 generation system for sales people. When leads were submitted on the
 sites (2000+), they were cataloged in the db, available in an admin
 interface, and emailed to the salespeople, or their CRM systems, etc. If
 the client saw a lead in the admin that was not received by them, or
 their CRM, they were very quick to raise the flag, because that would
 mean they might be losing leads (and potential sales). So, while we
 might not have been notified of every instance, it's unlikely that there
 were very many we wouldn't have heard about.

 We experienced issues. But, in the end, each issue could be explained.
 One time the systems team changed the IP address of the SMTP server. My
 boss had originally configured the mail settings in the servers with IPs
 instead of domain names. It took 5 hours to respool all of the messages.
 Another time one client stopped receiving all comms from their site.
 Turns out they had their email hosted through a third party, and the IP
 of our SMTP server had been blacklisted because of another client doing
 bulk emailers. That same blacklist was used by multiple mail service
 providers.

 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 http://cutterscrossing.com


 Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010

 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book

 The best way to predict the future is to help create it

 On 4/5/2013 6:50 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
  Dozens is literally nothing out of 800k per day. Imagine saying you are
  aware of every tv show on every channel, every day, how would you know
 of a
  glitch or disruption  in any of those programmes unless you are watching
  them all or someone tells you. Even if someone told you about a couple of
  channels, there are hundreds of others you are still unaware of.
  The chances of you being aware of or told of every missing email when you
  send large qualtities is almost impossible.
  So anyone certainly could have this issue without realising. I am not
  saying that you do have this issue, simply that you could.
 
  If you check the Adobe forums you will see those other reports I
 mentioned
  of this same issue.
 
  Regards
  Russ Michaels
  www.michaels.me.uk
  www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
  www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
  On Apr 5, 2013 11:30 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
  cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:
 
  I've had dozens of reports of missing mail, and it has always come down
  to something other than CF. The email address was wrong, the SMTP server
  was down, the domain of the sender had been blacklisted, something along
  these kind of lines.
 
  Steve 'Cutter' Blades
  Adobe Community Professional
  Adobe Certified Expert
  Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
  
  http://cutterscrossing.com
 
 
  Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010
 
 
 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
 
  The best way to predict the future is to help create it
 
  On 4/4/2013 5:26 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
  This has been reported many times on the forums.
  You say it has not happened to you, but how would know unless someone
  actually contacted you to say they had not reveived an email and you
  investigated it.  In most cases of missing email, someone simply
 resends
  it
  and your none the wiser.
 
  Regards
  Russ Michaels
  www.michaels.me.uk
  www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
  www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
  On Apr 4, 2013 9:48 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
  cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:
 
  That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that
  has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP
  server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran
  processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day.
 
  When you say there 

RE: CFMail alternative

2013-04-05 Thread Robert Harrison

 Other people do have this issue and have had this issue, it is documented on 
 the Adobe forums

Could you send a link to that?  I ask because we have a custom built email 
module that uses CFMAIL. It works much like Constant Contact.  It let's users 
build mailers from templates, send bulk mail (ten or thousands per site), 
tracks the opens, tracks clicks, etc. We have it deployed on more than 50 sites 
and there is an open rate and click trough rate similar to or even higher than 
what we normally get from a campaign running Constant Contact.  There have 
sometimes been problems but we've always trace them to spam filters, 
blacklists, or something not CF related.

If there's a problem with CFMAIL and not a problem with server management or 
the typical mail server issues, I'd like to review it. I have hundreds of 
thousands mails running through CFMAIL and too much at stake not to be aware of 
a CF problem... so far I've seen no indication of a problem with CFMAIL, but 
new information is always appreciated.

Thanks

Robert Harrison 
Director of Interactive Services

Austin  Williams
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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-05 Thread Russ Michaels

I do not have a bookmarked link, so you would need to search the forums to
find the threads.



On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Robert Harrison
rob...@austin-williams.comwrote:


  Other people do have this issue and have had this issue, it is
 documented on the Adobe forums

 Could you send a link to that?  I ask because we have a custom built email
 module that uses CFMAIL. It works much like Constant Contact.  It let's
 users build mailers from templates, send bulk mail (ten or thousands per
 site), tracks the opens, tracks clicks, etc. We have it deployed on more
 than 50 sites and there is an open rate and click trough rate similar to or
 even higher than what we normally get from a campaign running Constant
 Contact.  There have sometimes been problems but we've always trace them to
 spam filters, blacklists, or something not CF related.

 If there's a problem with CFMAIL and not a problem with server management
 or the typical mail server issues, I'd like to review it. I have hundreds
 of thousands mails running through CFMAIL and too much at stake not to be
 aware of a CF problem... so far I've seen no indication of a problem with
 CFMAIL, but new information is always appreciated.

 Thanks

 Robert Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services

 Austin  Williams
 Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
 T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

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 Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_

 

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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-04 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 but there is no record on the mail server

Are you sure the mesages are not in the undelivered folder?
I was having the same issue until I realized that my mail server had a limit of 
1000 messages sent per hour.
So after this limit was reached, messages were simply refused and stored by CF 
in the undelivered.
Removing the limit solved the problem.


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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-04 Thread Russ Michaels

if you want to bypass cfmail then take a look at sendgrid.net, they have an
API for sending mail, so you get more control, more reporting, and bypass
cfmail and your mailserver altogether.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Brian Cain bcc9...@gmail.com wrote:


 I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail messages.
  The mail log show the messages being delivered to the mail server, but
 there is no record on the mail server.  I found this thread on Adobe's
 website (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585718), but there never seemed
 to be an actual resolution of the issue.  I have tried contacting Adobe
 support, but that has led to nowhere.  Most messages go out, but i need
 100% reliability for this.  Seeing as the problem is not with the CFMAIL
 tag, or my mail server (everything worked fine before we migrated to CF9
 last year), I need an alternative that will completely bypass the CF engine
 all together.

 I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions.

 

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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-04 Thread Brian Cain

Positive they are not there.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM,  wrote:


  but there is no record on the mail server

 Are you sure the mesages are not in the undelivered folder?
 I was having the same issue until I realized that my mail server had a
 limit of 1000 messages sent per hour.
 So after this limit was reached, messages were simply refused and stored
 by CF in the undelivered.
 Removing the limit solved the problem.


 

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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-04 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades

That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that 
has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP 
server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran 
processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day.

When you say there is no record on the mail server, do you mean the 
recipient server? Or the SMTP server? Is there a spam filtering server 
in between somewhere? Does your CF server authenticate with your SMTP 
server on send? What sort of security checks and balances are setup on 
your SMTP server?

If you have an entry in the CF Sent Mail log, then there was a valid 
handoff of your message to your SMTP server. If the hand off fails, it 
drops to the Undelivered folder.

Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Adobe Community Professional
Adobe Certified Expert
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

http://cutterscrossing.com


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On 4/4/2013 12:15 PM, Brian Cain wrote:
 I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail messages.  
 The mail log show the messages being delivered to the mail server, but there 
 is no record on the mail server.  I found this thread on Adobe's website 
 (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585718), but there never seemed to be an 
 actual resolution of the issue.  I have tried contacting Adobe support, but 
 that has led to nowhere.  Most messages go out, but i need 100% reliability 
 for this.  Seeing as the problem is not with the CFMAIL tag, or my mail 
 server (everything worked fine before we migrated to CF9 last year), I need 
 an alternative that will completely bypass the CF engine all together.

 I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions.

 

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Re: CFMail alternative

2013-04-04 Thread Russ Michaels

This has been reported many times on the forums.
You say it has not happened to you, but how would know unless someone
actually contacted you to say they had not reveived an email and you
investigated it.  In most cases of missing email, someone simply resends it
and your none the wiser.

Regards
Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
On Apr 4, 2013 9:48 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:


 That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that
 has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP
 server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran
 processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day.

 When you say there is no record on the mail server, do you mean the
 recipient server? Or the SMTP server? Is there a spam filtering server
 in between somewhere? Does your CF server authenticate with your SMTP
 server on send? What sort of security checks and balances are setup on
 your SMTP server?

 If you have an entry in the CF Sent Mail log, then there was a valid
 handoff of your message to your SMTP server. If the hand off fails, it
 drops to the Undelivered folder.

 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 http://cutterscrossing.com


 Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010

 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book

 The best way to predict the future is to help create it

 On 4/4/2013 12:15 PM, Brian Cain wrote:
  I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail
 messages.  The mail log show the messages being delivered to the mail
 server, but there is no record on the mail server.  I found this thread on
 Adobe's website (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585718), but there never
 seemed to be an actual resolution of the issue.  I have tried contacting
 Adobe support, but that has led to nowhere.  Most messages go out, but i
 need 100% reliability for this.  Seeing as the problem is not with the
 CFMAIL tag, or my mail server (everything worked fine before we migrated to
 CF9 last year), I need an alternative that will completely bypass the CF
 engine all together.
 
  I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions.
 
 

 

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Re: CFMAIL Not getting to mail server

2012-11-27 Thread Carl Von Stetten

If the mail log doesn't show the messages as being bounced and 
undeliverable (and the messaged don't end up in the cfmail\undelivr 
folder in your ColdFusion install directory), then the problem is likely 
with your downstream mail server, not with ColdFusion.  Did you 
propagate the same SMTP server settings from your CF7 install to your 
CF9 install?

-Carl V.
On 11/27/2012 2:23 PM, Brian Cain wrote:
 Hello All,

 I recently migrated to CF 9 from 7, and there seems to be an issue with not 
 all cfmail messages going out.  I an not getting any errors, and the log 
 files in CF actually show the messages in the mail sent log, but there is no 
 trace of them after that on my mail server or the client end.  This problem 
 did not start happening until after I migrated to CF9, and there have been no 
 changes in the code or environment beyond that.  This does not happen to all 
 messages, but it happens often enough that is a problem.

 Does anyone have any ideas of how to fix this issues.  I found some threads 
 about this issue and other people experiencing it, but no solutions or help 
 from Adobe on a permanent fix.

 Thanks,
 Brian Cain

 

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Re: CFMAIL Problem with new TLDs

2012-10-01 Thread Dave Watts

 On CF9, cfmail seems to be having a problem sending email to some of the 
 newer address, like som...@sprucegrove.ca .
 This is a valid email address, but CF9 CFMAIL is chocking on this and a other 
 valid addresses that use the newer two
 character TLDs.

 If I try to send to that address, CFMAIL bombs and halts. If I wrap it in 
 CFTRY with a CFCATCH to show me the failures,
 it's failing on several of the new TLDs.

 Does anyone know if there is a patch for this or something?

This is almost certainly a problem with the SMTP server you're using,
rather than CF. You can easily verify this sort of thing (and
generally debug SMTP problems) by using a telnet session on your CF
server to attempt to connect and send a message through your SMTP
server.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: CFMAIL Problem with new TLDs

2012-09-27 Thread Russ Michaels

CF will try to send an email to any address you give it, even a complete
nonsense address, it is the SMTP server that will reject it. I have never
had any issues sending emails to 2 letter TLD's such as .co or .ca
So you should firstly investigate DNS and SMTP issues

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com
 wrote:


 On CF9, cfmail seems to be having a problem sending email to some of the
 newer address, like som...@sprucegrove.ca . This is a valid email
 address, but CF9 CFMAIL is chocking on this and a other valid addresses
 that use the newer two character TLDs.

 If I try to send to that address, CFMAIL bombs and halts. If I wrap it in
 CFTRY with a CFCATCH to show me the failures, it's failing on several of
 the new TLDs.

 Does anyone know if there is a patch for this or something?

 Thanks

 Robert Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services

 Austin  Williams
 Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
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Re: CFMAIL Problem with new TLDs

2012-09-27 Thread Cameron Childress

The .ca domain belongs to Canada and is 24 years old (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ca).

I suspect your problem lies elsewhere.

-Cameron

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com
   On CF9, cfmail seems to be having a problem sending email to some of the
  newer address, like som...@sprucegrove.ca . This is a valid email
  address, but CF9 CFMAIL is chocking on this and a other valid addresses
  that use the newer two character TLDs.
 
  If I try to send to that address, CFMAIL bombs and halts. If I wrap it in
  CFTRY with a CFCATCH to show me the failures, it's failing on several of
  the new TLDs.
 
  Does anyone know if there is a patch for this or something?



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RE: cfmail settings

2012-08-30 Thread Robert Harrison

Try changing to:

 cfmail server=127.0.0.1


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From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:44 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cfmail settings


 I have just upgraded to windows server 2008 CF9

 My web email forms aren't working:
 in cfmail server=localhost

 in the coldfusion administrator the mail server is left blank

 used to work but isn't now. any ideas

Your old server presumably had the IIS 6 SMTP server enabled. Your new one 
doesn't. You will need to enable that (and probably install it first - it's not 
a default component with IIS 7).

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RE: cfmail settings

2012-08-30 Thread Robert Harrison

And also be sure you've enabled the internal mail server in IIS. 


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-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:27 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: cfmail settings


Try changing to:

 cfmail server=127.0.0.1


Robert Harrison
Director of Interactive Services

Austin  Williams
Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:44 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cfmail settings


 I have just upgraded to windows server 2008 CF9

 My web email forms aren't working:
 in cfmail server=localhost

 in the coldfusion administrator the mail server is left blank

 used to work but isn't now. any ideas

Your old server presumably had the IIS 6 SMTP server enabled. Your new one 
doesn't. You will need to enable that (and probably install it first - it's not 
a default component with IIS 7).

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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RE: cfmail settings

2012-08-30 Thread Andy Tyrone

  I have just upgraded to windows server 2008 CF9
 
  My web email forms aren't working:
  in cfmail server=localhost
 
  in the coldfusion administrator the mail server is left blank
 
  used to work but isn't now. any ideas
 
 Your old server presumably had the IIS 6 SMTP server enabled. Your new one
 doesn't. You will need to enable that (and probably install it first -
it's
 not a default component with IIS 7).

Also, make sure you set the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) service
startup type to automatic; I installed SMTP on a 2008 R2 VPS a few months
ago and discovered post-reboot about a week later (after emails stopped
arriving) that the service wasn't set to automatic startup by default!

Andy


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Re: cfmail settings

2012-08-29 Thread Russ Michaels

if your CFMAIL tags are specifying a SERVER then you do not need anything
in the cfadmin.
If they are not specifying a server thent hey will us ethe cfadmin
settings, so you need to set them.

I presume you do actually have a SMTP server setup and configured on
localhost right ?


On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote:


 Hi Folks
 I have just upgraded to windows server 2008 CF9

 My web email forms aren't working:
 in cfmail server=localhost

 in the coldfusion administrator the mail server is left blank

 used to work but isn't now. any ideas
 Thanks
 Rob



 

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Re: cfmail settings

2012-08-29 Thread Dave Watts

 I have just upgraded to windows server 2008 CF9

 My web email forms aren't working:
 in cfmail server=localhost

 in the coldfusion administrator the mail server is left blank

 used to work but isn't now. any ideas

Your old server presumably had the IIS 6 SMTP server enabled. Your new
one doesn't. You will need to enable that (and probably install it
first - it's not a default component with IIS 7).

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Re: cfmail to Exchange using TLS

2012-05-23 Thread Russ Michaels

The encryption level is determined by the cert. You can generate any type
of cert yourself and it will do the same job but it will not be trusted in
a browser is not provided by a known ca. The encryption is done by the
cert on the mailserver so nothing to install on cf side.
Why type of cert did you generate?
On May 23, 2012 6:41 PM, David Phelan phelan.dav...@gmail.com wrote:


 I am developing a solution for my company to be able to send email from our
 CF 8 application using TLS for security reasons and have a couple things
 that I would like to get clarified.

 I looked at the headers of the emails sent by my solution and I noticed
 that the transfer encoding was only 7 bit.  The certificate that we are
 using on the development box is self signed so I am hoping that is the
 reason for the low encoding level, but I'm not sure.  What I would like to
 clarify is the following:


   1. Is the self signed certificate the reason for the encoding level?
   2. Will a genuine certificate from a reputable source improve the
   encoding level?
   3. Do I need to install a certificate somewhere in ColdFusion?
   4. Is this a limitation of the CF 8 cfmail tag?
   5. Is this something that needs to be addressed on the Exchange server?
   6. Am I off the mark on this completely?

 I have no experience sending secured email from CF so any help or advice
 would be appreciated.

 TIA

 --
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 ColdFusion/Flex Application Developer
 phelan.dav...@gmail.com


 

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Re: cfmail to Exchange using TLS

2012-05-23 Thread Dave Watts

 I am developing a solution for my company to be able to send email from our
 CF 8 application using TLS for security reasons and have a couple things
 that I would like to get clarified.

 I looked at the headers of the emails sent by my solution and I noticed
 that the transfer encoding was only 7 bit.  The certificate that we are
 using on the development box is self signed so I am hoping that is the
 reason for the low encoding level, but I'm not sure.  What I would like to
 clarify is the following:

   1. Is the self signed certificate the reason for the encoding level?
   2. Will a genuine certificate from a reputable source improve the
   encoding level?
   3. Do I need to install a certificate somewhere in ColdFusion?
   4. Is this a limitation of the CF 8 cfmail tag?
   5. Is this something that needs to be addressed on the Exchange server?
   6. Am I off the mark on this completely?

 I have no experience sending secured email from CF so any help or advice
 would be appreciated.

I think the answer to (6) is yes. The certificate should have
nothing to do with the actual content of the email, and is just used
to establish an encrypted connection.

That said, if you're looking at the headers sent before the encrypted
connection is established, you might not see anything beyond the
standard 7-bit transfer encoding that SMTP supports. ESMTP and 8-bit
MIME are required for more complex transfer encodings. I suspect you
don't really get to see that information before the encrypted
connection is established.

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Re: cfmail issue

2011-10-05 Thread Michael Grant

Most of the time when I've used CFMail and Gmail I've had to use TLS and
SSL.
Try adding this: port=465 useSSL=true useTLS=true

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Jude Blacklaw judeblack...@gmail.comwrote:


 I am having an issue with cfmail.

 I sent regular emails like this

 cfmail from=b...@bobsdomain.com to=custo...@theirdomain.com server=
 smtp.gmail.com username=usern...@domain.com password=password
 subject=whatever

 And most of the time they work fine.
 But when legitimate emails end up in the undelivered folder, I have to move
 it back into the spool, but they will then fail every time with a useless
 error.
 I have googled this and discovered that this is because CF doesn't have the
 username/password any more so the authentication against the SMTP server
 thus fails. I have checked this and it is true, CF is not sending the
 username/password when emails are respooled.
 So how on earth how you meant to respool failed emails ?

 

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Re: cfmail issue

2011-10-05 Thread Michael Grant

I should add that this may not do anything to fix your problem of
respooling, however it may minimize the failures in the first place.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:

 Most of the time when I've used CFMail and Gmail I've had to use TLS and
 SSL.
 Try adding this: port=465 useSSL=true useTLS=true


 On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Jude Blacklaw judeblack...@gmail.comwrote:


 I am having an issue with cfmail.

 I sent regular emails like this

 cfmail from=b...@bobsdomain.com to=custo...@theirdomain.com server=
 smtp.gmail.com username=usern...@domain.com password=password
 subject=whatever

 And most of the time they work fine.
 But when legitimate emails end up in the undelivered folder, I have to
 move it back into the spool, but they will then fail every time with a
 useless error.
 I have googled this and discovered that this is because CF doesn't have
 the username/password any more so the authentication against the SMTP server
 thus fails. I have checked this and it is true, CF is not sending the
 username/password when emails are respooled.
 So how on earth how you meant to respool failed emails ?

 

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Re: cfmail issue

2011-10-05 Thread Jude Blacklaw

thanks Michael, but I am already doing that with gmail, it is in fact required 
to use TLS.

But this issue is not specific to gmail, the problem occurs with ANY SMTP 
server where you pass the auth details in the CFMAIL tag.
It of course works fine if I specify the server and auth details in the cfadmin 
mail settings as these will be used for re-spooled emails as well, but alas I 
cannot do that as each customer/website needs to use their own outgoing SMTP 
server. 

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Re: cfmail issue

2011-10-05 Thread Michael Grant

Can you write a scheduled task to pull the headers and body from the
messages in the Undelivr folder and resend them?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Jude Blacklaw judeblack...@gmail.comwrote:


 thanks Michael, but I am already doing that with gmail, it is in fact
 required to use TLS.

 But this issue is not specific to gmail, the problem occurs with ANY SMTP
 server where you pass the auth details in the CFMAIL tag.
 It of course works fine if I specify the server and auth details in the
 cfadmin mail settings as these will be used for re-spooled emails as well,
 but alas I cannot do that as each customer/website needs to use their own
 outgoing SMTP server.

 

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Re: cfmail doesn't work for cferror tag

2011-08-16 Thread Russ Michaels

I think cferror may be limited as to what you can put in the error template,
my memory is quite rusty but I think this is to avoid you causing an error
in the error template.
how about if you set error.cfm as the default error template in the cfadmin,
does it work then ? I know this method has no restrictions and you can do
whatever you like in the error template.


On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Nathan Chen nathan.c...@cu.edu wrote:


 Hi,



 In my application.cfm I have:

 cferror

 template=error.cfm

 type=exception

 exception=any



 In my error.cfm page I have some friendly text for end users and plus
 this:

 cfmail to=nathan.c...@cu.edu from=nathan.c...@cu.edu subject=CF
 Error Occurred:  type=html

 Text for myself here.

 /cfmail



 I haven't even placed any #error.variable# insde the cfmail yet but the
 result is that error.cfm gets displayed but wouldn't send out email to
 me, and the mail.log on Admin doesn't record it. There is nothing in the
 mail spool folder either.  If I take the above cfmail portion and place
 them in a separate cfm and run it, it does send out email. That means
 the connection between this CF server(CF 8) and my organization's mail
 server is ok.


 Can anyone tell me if there is a syntax error here?





 Nathan



 

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RE: cfmail doesn't work for cferror tag

2011-08-16 Thread Nathan Chen

Russ,

Thanks for taking time to reply. The only thing I see on Admin (under
Settings) is Missing Template Handler and Side-wide Error Handler. I am
not sure if this is the right place that you were referring to? Or were
you talking about another area I don't know?

Nathan

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:44 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cfmail doesn't work for cferror tag


I think cferror may be limited as to what you can put in the error
template,
my memory is quite rusty but I think this is to avoid you causing an
error
in the error template.
how about if you set error.cfm as the default error template in the
cfadmin,
does it work then ? I know this method has no restrictions and you can
do
whatever you like in the error template.


On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Nathan Chen nathan.c...@cu.edu wrote:


 Hi,



 In my application.cfm I have:

 cferror

 template=error.cfm

 type=exception

 exception=any



 In my error.cfm page I have some friendly text for end users and plus
 this:

 cfmail to=nathan.c...@cu.edu from=nathan.c...@cu.edu subject=CF
 Error Occurred:  type=html

 Text for myself here.

 /cfmail



 I haven't even placed any #error.variable# insde the cfmail yet but
the
 result is that error.cfm gets displayed but wouldn't send out email to
 me, and the mail.log on Admin doesn't record it. There is nothing in
the
 mail spool folder either.  If I take the above cfmail portion and
place
 them in a separate cfm and run it, it does send out email. That means
 the connection between this CF server(CF 8) and my organization's mail
 server is ok.


 Can anyone tell me if there is a syntax error here?





 Nathan



 



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Re: cfmail doesn't work for cferror tag

2011-08-16 Thread Russ Michaels

yes that is correct, set the site wide error handler to error.cfm, the file
must also exist in the default website that hosts the cfadmin ot it wont
save.

Russ

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Nathan Chen nathan.c...@cu.edu wrote:


 Russ,

 Thanks for taking time to reply. The only thing I see on Admin (under
 Settings) is Missing Template Handler and Side-wide Error Handler. I am
 not sure if this is the right place that you were referring to? Or were
 you talking about another area I don't know?

 Nathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:44 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: cfmail doesn't work for cferror tag


 I think cferror may be limited as to what you can put in the error
 template,
 my memory is quite rusty but I think this is to avoid you causing an
 error
 in the error template.
 how about if you set error.cfm as the default error template in the
 cfadmin,
 does it work then ? I know this method has no restrictions and you can
 do
 whatever you like in the error template.


 On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Nathan Chen nathan.c...@cu.edu wrote:

 
  Hi,
 
 
 
  In my application.cfm I have:
 
  cferror
 
  template=error.cfm
 
  type=exception
 
  exception=any
 
 
 
  In my error.cfm page I have some friendly text for end users and plus
  this:
 
  cfmail to=nathan.c...@cu.edu from=nathan.c...@cu.edu subject=CF
  Error Occurred:  type=html
 
  Text for myself here.
 
  /cfmail
 
 
 
  I haven't even placed any #error.variable# insde the cfmail yet but
 the
  result is that error.cfm gets displayed but wouldn't send out email to
  me, and the mail.log on Admin doesn't record it. There is nothing in
 the
  mail spool folder either.  If I take the above cfmail portion and
 place
  them in a separate cfm and run it, it does send out email. That means
  the connection between this CF server(CF 8) and my organization's mail
  server is ok.
 
 
  Can anyone tell me if there is a syntax error here?
 
 
 
 
 
  Nathan
 
 
 
 



 

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Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

2010-12-10 Thread Ian Skinner

  On 12/10/2010 9:04 AM, Rick Root wrote:
 [Error,scheduler-4,12/10/10,11:40:51,,Could not connect to
 SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421
 and
 [Error,mailWorker-6,12/10/10,10:50:29,,Could not connect to
 SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421


Does the user that your ColdFusion run as have permissions to make 
connections to the mail server?


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Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

2010-12-10 Thread Steven Durette

Smtp error 421 is the service is not available and the connection will be 
closed 

It is from the smtp server not ColdFusion, so you issue is the smtp server.

Steve

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On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Rick Root rick.r...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 We've been having significantly more trouble getting CF to send mail
 to our MDaemon server ... after we upgraded to CF9, we started seeing
 a lot of these errors in the mail.log:
 
 [Error,scheduler-4,12/10/10,11:40:51,,Could not connect to
 SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421
 and
 [Error,mailWorker-6,12/10/10,10:50:29,,Could not connect to
 SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421
 
 (the only difference there is the thread that is logging the error I guess)
 
 However, the mail server is absolutely up and running and the vast
 majority of our mail IS going out.
 
 In the mail settings, we have Maintain connection.. checked ... the
 timeout is set to 60 seconds..
 
 Would a connection timeout be reported as  response 421?
 
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Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

2010-12-10 Thread Rick Root

AH, so Could not connect to SMTP Server reported by coldfusion is
not really correct because it DID connect to the SMTP server, it just
couldn't send the message.

Okay, makes sense.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Steven Durette st...@durette.org wrote:

 Smtp error 421 is the service is not available and the connection will be 
 closed

 It is from the smtp server not ColdFusion, so you issue is the smtp server.

 Steve

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Rick Root rick.r...@gmail.com wrote:


 We've been having significantly more trouble getting CF to send mail
 to our MDaemon server ... after we upgraded to CF9, we started seeing
 a lot of these errors in the mail.log:

 [Error,scheduler-4,12/10/10,11:40:51,,Could not connect to
 SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421
 and
 [Error,mailWorker-6,12/10/10,10:50:29,,Could not connect to
 SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421

 (the only difference there is the thread that is logging the error I guess)

 However, the mail server is absolutely up and running and the vast
 majority of our mail IS going out.

 In the mail settings, we have Maintain connection.. checked ... the
 timeout is set to 60 seconds..

 Would a connection timeout be reported as  response 421?

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Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

2010-12-10 Thread Steven Durette

Actually the CF error is correct. CF tried to connect to the smtp server and 
all it got back was error 421. So connection couldn't be made.

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Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

2010-12-10 Thread Rick Root

Found a setting in MDaemon that restricted the maximum concurrent
incoming connections.  Since CF was set to 30 threads and we have 3
isntances, and MDaemon set to only accept 50 incoming connections,
that was PROBABLY causing the issue.

Thanks all.

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Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored

2010-11-21 Thread Stefan Richter

thanks everyone.
I'll try it using my GApps account instead - I do have the site set up under it 
already so hopefulyl that'll work.

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Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored

2010-11-21 Thread Stefan Richter

Hmm that didn't really work either (Google Apps).
I've got site.com set up under my google Apps account as an authorised domain. 
However when I send mail via CF and specify the sender as i...@site.com it now 
shows as my primary Google Apps domain. So I guess unless I set up a standalone 
Apps account I won't be able to send mail this way. 
I'll probably have to use my own mailserver then?

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Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored

2010-11-21 Thread Dave Watts

 Hmm that didn't really work either (Google Apps).
 I've got site.com set up under my google Apps account as an authorised 
 domain. However when I send mail via CF and specify the sender as
 i...@site.com it now shows as my primary Google Apps domain. So I guess 
 unless I set up a standalone Apps account I won't be able to send
 mail this way.
 I'll probably have to use my own mailserver then?

Right, it's going to use your primary domain when you mail through
Apps. You could set up an Apps domain just for this site, if you
remove the domain alias from your Apps domain configuration.

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Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored

2010-11-20 Thread Dave Watts

 I've configured mail in CF Admin using smtp.gmail.com with my personal GMail 
 account details (username and password). Mail is being sent
 without problems.

 However users of one of the websites where I use the CFMAIL tag and a 'from' 
 address of i...@site.com tell me that the email arrives as having
 been sent from me, using my GMail address. What am I missing? Shouldn't the 
 'from' in CFMail take priority? That's what I seem to remember
 always happened when I used my own SMTP server in the past.

 BTW I am not specifying server details or credentials in the CFMail tag 
 itself, they are only specified in CFadmin.

Rex nailed it - Gmail doesn't allow you to set this.

As a workaround, you can set up a Google Apps domain for either the
primary domain or a subdomain of site.com - presumably a subdomain,
unless they're willing to migrate from their current mail system to
Apps.

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Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored

2010-11-19 Thread Jacob Munson

I believe this is a setting in gmail itself.  There is a section in the
settings called Send mail as:

Sent with my Droid
On Nov 19, 2010 2:14 PM, Stefan Richter ste...@flashcomguru.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I've configured mail in CF Admin using smtp.gmail.com with my personal
GMail account details (username and password). Mail is being sent without
problems.

 However users of one of the websites where I use the CFMAIL tag and a
'from' address of i...@site.com tell me that the email arrives as having
been sent from me, using my GMail address. What am I missing? Shouldn't the
'from' in CFMail take priority? That's what I seem to remember always
happened when I used my own SMTP server in the past.

 BTW I am not specifying server details or credentials in the CFMail tag
itself, they are only specified in CFadmin.

 Cheers

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Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored

2010-11-19 Thread rex

Google's mail servers do not allow you to spoof the FROM email 
address.  It will always come from the authenticated account.

i.e.  If I'm using google's mail servers, and login as 
thisper...@gmail.com, I cannot send from thatper...@gmail.com or 
anotherper...@site.com

Stefan Richter wrote:
 Hi all,
 I've configured mail in CF Admin using smtp.gmail.com with my personal GMail 
 account details (username and password). Mail is being sent without problems. 

 However users of one of the websites where I use the CFMAIL tag and a 'from' 
 address of i...@site.com tell me that the email arrives as having been sent 
 from me, using my GMail address. What am I missing? Shouldn't the 'from' in 
 CFMail take priority? That's what I seem to remember always happened when I 
 used my own SMTP server in the past.

 BTW I am not specifying server details or credentials in the CFMail tag 
 itself, they are only specified in CFadmin.

 Cheers 

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Re: CFMAIL Speed Issue

2010-11-11 Thread Russ Michaels

how do you generate the emails, is it a mailmerge from a database, in which
case could it be the database query causing the problem ?


On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm having an odd issue with CFMAIL that comes and goes and Im not seeing
 a
 reason for it.

 Environment:
 2 load balanced 64-bit windows 2003 servers with 8GB RAM and 2GHz Quad-core
 processors running CF8

 I have a mailer process which processes 1000 messages at a time and
 alternates between the 2 web servers for relay (modifying the server
 attribute of the cfmail tag).  Normally, this process can handle 1000
 messages in under 15 seconds.  From time to time (now being one of those
 times) it will take 3+ minutes to generate them.

 From what I can tell, the bottleneck is in the generating phase (where it
 actually creates the messages and drops them in the Spool directory).  The
 background process which actually sends the email files off to the relay
 servers seems to be running normal.

 I've tried setting the spooler to the disk or to memory and the speed is
 the
 same (maybe slightly faster via the memory setting, but still takes several
 minutes to complete 1000 messages).  I've got the following jvm settings:

 *java.args=-server -Xms3072m -Xmx5120m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false
 -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch*

 Frankly I don't really know what some of that does but I know we are using
 up a crapload of memory which I assume would be a good thing.

 There's nothing else really running on these servers except IIS and CF8.
 I'm at a loss right now.  Any ideas would be helpful.

 Thanks!

 -Jake


 

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RE: CFMAIL Speed Issue

2010-11-11 Thread Stephens, Larry V

Do you use cfmail parameters for naming the server, user and password? I'm on 
HostMySite and I'm not forced to use these parameters but I've found it's at 
least 300x faster (a few seconds compared to 3-5 minutes) if I do.


 

-Original Message-
From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:18 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CFMAIL Speed Issue


I'm having an odd issue with CFMAIL that comes and goes and Im not seeing a 
reason for it.

Environment:
2 load balanced 64-bit windows 2003 servers with 8GB RAM and 2GHz Quad-core 
processors running CF8

I have a mailer process which processes 1000 messages at a time and alternates 
between the 2 web servers for relay (modifying the server attribute of the 
cfmail tag).  Normally, this process can handle 1000 messages in under 15 
seconds.  From time to time (now being one of those
times) it will take 3+ minutes to generate them.

From what I can tell, the bottleneck is in the generating phase (where it 
actually creates the messages and drops them in the Spool directory).  The 
background process which actually sends the email files off to the relay 
servers seems to be running normal.

I've tried setting the spooler to the disk or to memory and the speed is the 
same (maybe slightly faster via the memory setting, but still takes several 
minutes to complete 1000 messages).  I've got the following jvm settings:

*java.args=-server -Xms3072m -Xmx5120m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false 
-XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch*

Frankly I don't really know what some of that does but I know we are using up a 
crapload of memory which I assume would be a good thing.

There's nothing else really running on these servers except IIS and CF8.
I'm at a loss right now.  Any ideas would be helpful.

Thanks!

-Jake




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RE: CFMAIL Speed Issue

2010-11-11 Thread Russ Michaels

That would imply an issue with the default SMTP server set in the cfadmin
then, if you are specifying a different server in the cfmail tags to speed
it up.

-Original Message-
From: Stephens, Larry V [mailto:steph...@indiana.edu] 
Sent: 11 November 2010 13:45
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFMAIL Speed Issue


Do you use cfmail parameters for naming the server, user and password? I'm
on HostMySite and I'm not forced to use these parameters but I've found it's
at least 300x faster (a few seconds compared to 3-5 minutes) if I do.


 

-Original Message-
From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:18 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CFMAIL Speed Issue


I'm having an odd issue with CFMAIL that comes and goes and Im not seeing a
reason for it.

Environment:
2 load balanced 64-bit windows 2003 servers with 8GB RAM and 2GHz Quad-core
processors running CF8

I have a mailer process which processes 1000 messages at a time and
alternates between the 2 web servers for relay (modifying the server
attribute of the cfmail tag).  Normally, this process can handle 1000
messages in under 15 seconds.  From time to time (now being one of those
times) it will take 3+ minutes to generate them.

From what I can tell, the bottleneck is in the generating phase (where it
actually creates the messages and drops them in the Spool directory).  The
background process which actually sends the email files off to the relay
servers seems to be running normal.

I've tried setting the spooler to the disk or to memory and the speed is the
same (maybe slightly faster via the memory setting, but still takes several
minutes to complete 1000 messages).  I've got the following jvm settings:

*java.args=-server -Xms3072m -Xmx5120m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false
-XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch*

Frankly I don't really know what some of that does but I know we are using
up a crapload of memory which I assume would be a good thing.

There's nothing else really running on these servers except IIS and CF8.
I'm at a loss right now.  Any ideas would be helpful.

Thanks!

-Jake






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Re: CFMAIL Speed Issue

2010-11-11 Thread Jake Churchill

IIS on the local box is what relays and no params are needed

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Stephens, Larry V steph...@indiana.eduwrote:


 Do you use cfmail parameters for naming the server, user and password? I'm
 on HostMySite and I'm not forced to use these parameters but I've found it's
 at least 300x faster (a few seconds compared to 3-5 minutes) if I do.




 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:18 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: CFMAIL Speed Issue


 I'm having an odd issue with CFMAIL that comes and goes and Im not seeing
 a reason for it.

 Environment:
 2 load balanced 64-bit windows 2003 servers with 8GB RAM and 2GHz Quad-core
 processors running CF8

 I have a mailer process which processes 1000 messages at a time and
 alternates between the 2 web servers for relay (modifying the server
 attribute of the cfmail tag).  Normally, this process can handle 1000
 messages in under 15 seconds.  From time to time (now being one of those
 times) it will take 3+ minutes to generate them.

 From what I can tell, the bottleneck is in the generating phase (where it
 actually creates the messages and drops them in the Spool directory).  The
 background process which actually sends the email files off to the relay
 servers seems to be running normal.

 I've tried setting the spooler to the disk or to memory and the speed is
 the same (maybe slightly faster via the memory setting, but still takes
 several minutes to complete 1000 messages).  I've got the following jvm
 settings:

 *java.args=-server -Xms3072m -Xmx5120m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false
 -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch*

 Frankly I don't really know what some of that does but I know we are using
 up a crapload of memory which I assume would be a good thing.

 There's nothing else really running on these servers except IIS and CF8.
 I'm at a loss right now.  Any ideas would be helpful.

 Thanks!

 -Jake




 

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Re: CFMAIL Speed Issue

2010-11-11 Thread Jake Churchill

however, on one of the boxes there was a username/password set up in the
mail section of cfadmin.  I removed it and I'll see if that helps.  Thanks
for the suggestion.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote:

 IIS on the local box is what relays and no params are needed


 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Stephens, Larry V 
 steph...@indiana.eduwrote:


 Do you use cfmail parameters for naming the server, user and password? I'm
 on HostMySite and I'm not forced to use these parameters but I've found it's
 at least 300x faster (a few seconds compared to 3-5 minutes) if I do.




 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:18 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: CFMAIL Speed Issue


 I'm having an odd issue with CFMAIL that comes and goes and Im not seeing
 a reason for it.

 Environment:
 2 load balanced 64-bit windows 2003 servers with 8GB RAM and 2GHz
 Quad-core processors running CF8

 I have a mailer process which processes 1000 messages at a time and
 alternates between the 2 web servers for relay (modifying the server
 attribute of the cfmail tag).  Normally, this process can handle 1000
 messages in under 15 seconds.  From time to time (now being one of those
 times) it will take 3+ minutes to generate them.

 From what I can tell, the bottleneck is in the generating phase (where it
 actually creates the messages and drops them in the Spool directory).  The
 background process which actually sends the email files off to the relay
 servers seems to be running normal.

 I've tried setting the spooler to the disk or to memory and the speed is
 the same (maybe slightly faster via the memory setting, but still takes
 several minutes to complete 1000 messages).  I've got the following jvm
 settings:

 *java.args=-server -Xms3072m -Xmx5120m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false
 -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch*

 Frankly I don't really know what some of that does but I know we are using
 up a crapload of memory which I assume would be a good thing.

 There's nothing else really running on these servers except IIS and CF8.
 I'm at a loss right now.  Any ideas would be helpful.

 Thanks!

 -Jake




 

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Re: CFMail Send Problem

2010-11-09 Thread Sean Henderson

Experiencing the same issue (blank message body) this past week (as of 
11/09/10) as described in this post of 11/12/2003.

No changes to the template(s) calling CFMail - just started sending blank 
message bodies. Spam score says negative 1 (-1) where a score of 3 or more is 
spam, so that's not it.  CF says it left the building fine.  Records in db say 
there was indeed message content.  Thankfully only happening on our test system 
(in office), not in production (co-lo).  Anyone figure this out? Was it an 
ISP/content filtering issue?

Thanks, Sean
stack: CFMX6.1 (j2sdk1.4.2_11), SQL2K Std, Win2K3 Std R2 SP2.

 ... weird problem occurring with an email send out using CFMail 6.1 from
 a SQL2000 db.  Seems that SOME recipients of the message get a blank/empty
 message body (subject line, to and from fields are OK).
 ... doesn't seem to be email client specific 
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Re: CFMail Send Problem

2010-11-09 Thread Jake Churchill

This might have sommething to do with sending multipart MIME messages.
Perhaps one person's client is set to only display plain text and the
message does not contain that part.

Sent from my Droid

On Nov 9, 2010 12:23 PM, Sean Henderson shender...@followup.net wrote:


Experiencing the same issue (blank message body) this past week (as of
11/09/10) as described in this post of 11/12/2003.

No changes to the template(s) calling CFMail - just started sending blank
message bodies. Spam score says negative 1 (-1) where a score of 3 or more
is spam, so that's not it.  CF says it left the building fine.  Records in
db say there was indeed message content.  Thankfully only happening on our
test system (in office), not in production (co-lo).  Anyone figure this out?
Was it an ISP/content filtering issue?

Thanks, Sean
stack: CFMX6.1 (j2sdk1.4.2_11), SQL2K Std, Win2K3 Std R2 SP2.

 ... weird problem occurring with an email send out using CFMail 6.1 from
 a SQL2000 db.  Seems that SOME recipients of the message get a blank/empty
 message body (subject line, to and from fields are OK).
 ... doesn't seem to be email client specific
 Thanks, Mark




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Re: CFMail Send Problem

2010-11-09 Thread Wil Genovese

What he said - the message body may look blank, but view the raw source of the 
received email to see what is really there. There could be an encoding issue.


Wil Genovese

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A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. 

On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Jake Churchill wrote:

 
 This might have sommething to do with sending multipart MIME messages.
 Perhaps one person's client is set to only display plain text and the
 message does not contain that part.
 
 Sent from my Droid
 
 On Nov 9, 2010 12:23 PM, Sean Henderson shender...@followup.net wrote:
 
 
 Experiencing the same issue (blank message body) this past week (as of
 11/09/10) as described in this post of 11/12/2003.
 
 No changes to the template(s) calling CFMail - just started sending blank
 message bodies. Spam score says negative 1 (-1) where a score of 3 or more
 is spam, so that's not it.  CF says it left the building fine.  Records in
 db say there was indeed message content.  Thankfully only happening on our
 test system (in office), not in production (co-lo).  Anyone figure this out?
 Was it an ISP/content filtering issue?
 
 Thanks, Sean
 stack: CFMX6.1 (j2sdk1.4.2_11), SQL2K Std, Win2K3 Std R2 SP2.
 
 ... weird problem occurring with an email send out using CFMail 6.1 from
 a SQL2000 db.  Seems that SOME recipients of the message get a blank/empty
 message body (subject line, to and from fields are OK).
 ... doesn't seem to be email client specific
 Thanks, Mark
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: cfmail and Groupwise-SMTP

2010-09-06 Thread Russ Michaels

in the mail settings you need to set *Error Log Severity to warning or error
I believe

Russ
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On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Thomas Stichnoth i...@stichnoth.net wrote:


 Hello,



 curious:

 Im using a Groupwise-SMTP-Server with CF8. Delivery of Mails is working.
 But, when I try to send mail with an illegal recipient, I get no error in
 the Coldfusion-Logs (debug=yes), Status 250 OK.

 If I try the same via Telnet, I get the an error (550)

 Any Idea?



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Re: CFMAIL isn't working at all

2010-07-07 Thread Tom Chiverton

On Tuesday 06 Jul 2010 14:15:10 you wrote:
 What happens if you log in as the same user that CF is running as
 (cfusion), and attempt to send mail to sendmail via telnet?

Or use a packet monitor like tethereal to see what is going on at the network 
level on the SMTP port.

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Re: CFMAIL isn't working at all

2010-07-06 Thread Mike Kear

I find CFMAIL issues amongst the most difficult to debug, because you get
such vague or even non-existent indications of problems.Often the only
indication you get that your CFMAIL is wrong, is you dont receive any email.



[A] I would check that you have all the required settings for your mail
server.  For example, in our system, the username is the full complete email
address, not just the part to the left of the @.

[B] Check that you have the server= attribute and the username= and
password=  correct in the CFMAIL tag.   Our system blocks any mail coming
from anywhere that doesnt have the correct authentication to prevent
spammers exploiting our mail server.  Yours may well be the same.   Your
support people at eworks.in will be able to tell you this.

[C] check that you have no syntax errors in the message.  If your message is
built using coldfusion, and you have an error in your code there,   you'll
not get an error message,  you'll just get nothing at all. I would
verify that you can indeed send emails using CFMAIL by sending one with a
very simple content like TEST  to eliminate this as a  possible culprit.

[D]  check that your isp doesnt block some ports.   My isp (iinet.net.au)
for example,  blocks port 25 by default to help reduce hacking, but can be
enabled if you need it  (we do in order to pass mail through to the remote
mail server).

In this case, I think you're not making a connection to the server,  but
once you get through that obstacle, the others may well show themselves too.
 I think the most likely is [D] above.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
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On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Sagar Gupta jupi...@eworks.in wrote:


 Hello everyone,



 I'm trying to send emails using the CFMAIL tag. I know how it is done and
 have tried every possible way to figure out why it isn't working.
 Coldfusion
 9 64-bit is running on a CentOS 5.4 x64 box with Apache 64-bit installed.
 It
 is neither sending email through smtp.gmail.com (Google App account) nor
 with localhost (sendmail server.)



 I've tried following way so far:



 1.   Tried to verify my mail server connections (both to Gmail and
 sendmail) using the Coldfusion administrator, however, always get following
 error: Connection Verification Failed!

 2.   Enabled mail log and have set the log level to Debug. Still don't
 see any error in the mail.log file. It does keep updating with spool
 related
 information but no error or details about connection to the mail server.

 3.   I know correct port and SSL settings required to connect to the
 Gmail smtp server.

 4.   Coldfusion is running as user cfusion in developer mode.

 5.   This is a new installation on a fresh CentOS box at a client's
 site
 and I've tried reinstalling Coldfusion a couple of times already.

 6.   Coldfusion is connected properly with Apache version 2.2_15.

 7.   I tried sending email using sendmail using the command-line and it
 went through.

 8.   I also tried to send email using a PHP script and it works,
 however, I can't rely on it as it deliver email very slow and I need to fix
 my installation.

 9.   If I enter localhost in SMTP field, uncheck SSL and check Verify
 connection and hit the Submit button in the CF Administrator, it gives
 Connection Verification Failed! Error instantly. However, with Gmail, when
 the SSL and Verify connection is checked, and port is set to 465 it take a
 while (about 20-40 seconds) to give the message Connection Verification
 Failed! I'm passing correct login credentials each time. As I mentioned in
 the point above it does work from command-line and PHP work with same mail
 server settings and login credentials and same CentOS box/Apache
 installation.

 10.   IP, host name, trusted users, network config and Firewall all seems
 to
 be setup quite properly.



 Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong here? Where should I look in
 my server to get more details? Again, neither sendmail nor Gmail works.
 I've
 looked in server.log and mail.log. Not sure what's happening.



 Best,

 Sagar Gupta



 

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Re: CFMAIL isn't working at all

2010-07-06 Thread Matthew Williams

  Doesn't CentOS come with a firewall enabled by default?  That, and 
maybe IPTables?  If your connection won't verify, I doubt that mail will 
ever go out.  You may need to poke about CentOS to open ports to allow 
outbound to the google mail servers.


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RE: CFMAIL isn't working at all

2010-07-06 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Check name resolution and FW on that CentOS server. Your error makes me
think name resolution (are you using 127.0.0.1 for the sendmail server?)

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-Original Message-
From: Sagar Gupta [mailto:jupi...@eworks.in] 
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CFMAIL isn't working at all


Hello everyone,

 

I'm trying to send emails using the CFMAIL tag. I know how it is done and
have tried every possible way to figure out why it isn't working. Coldfusion
9 64-bit is running on a CentOS 5.4 x64 box with Apache 64-bit installed. It
is neither sending email through smtp.gmail.com (Google App account) nor
with localhost (sendmail server.)

 

I've tried following way so far:

 

1.   Tried to verify my mail server connections (both to Gmail and
sendmail) using the Coldfusion administrator, however, always get following
error: Connection Verification Failed! 

2.   Enabled mail log and have set the log level to Debug. Still don't
see any error in the mail.log file. It does keep updating with spool related
information but no error or details about connection to the mail server.

3.   I know correct port and SSL settings required to connect to the
Gmail smtp server.

4.   Coldfusion is running as user cfusion in developer mode.

5.   This is a new installation on a fresh CentOS box at a client's site
and I've tried reinstalling Coldfusion a couple of times already.

6.   Coldfusion is connected properly with Apache version 2.2_15.

7.   I tried sending email using sendmail using the command-line and it
went through.

8.   I also tried to send email using a PHP script and it works,
however, I can't rely on it as it deliver email very slow and I need to fix
my installation.

9.   If I enter localhost in SMTP field, uncheck SSL and check Verify
connection and hit the Submit button in the CF Administrator, it gives
Connection Verification Failed! Error instantly. However, with Gmail, when
the SSL and Verify connection is checked, and port is set to 465 it take a
while (about 20-40 seconds) to give the message Connection Verification
Failed! I'm passing correct login credentials each time. As I mentioned in
the point above it does work from command-line and PHP work with same mail
server settings and login credentials and same CentOS box/Apache
installation.

10.   IP, host name, trusted users, network config and Firewall all seems to
be setup quite properly.

 

Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong here? Where should I look in
my server to get more details? Again, neither sendmail nor Gmail works. I've
looked in server.log and mail.log. Not sure what's happening.

 

Best,

Sagar Gupta





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Re: CFMAIL isn't working at all

2010-07-06 Thread Dave Watts

 I'm trying to send emails using the CFMAIL tag. I know how it is done and
 have tried every possible way to figure out why it isn't working. Coldfusion
 9 64-bit is running on a CentOS 5.4 x64 box with Apache 64-bit installed. It
 is neither sending email through smtp.gmail.com (Google App account) nor
 with localhost (sendmail server.)

I recommend that you focus on getting CF working with sendmail before
you try using Google Apps, as that'll greatly simplify
troubleshooting.

 1.       Tried to verify my mail server connections (both to Gmail and
 sendmail) using the Coldfusion administrator, however, always get following
 error: Connection Verification Failed!

At this point, you might as well stop. If you get an error here, CF
won't send mail.

What happens if you log in as the same user that CF is running as
(cfusion), and attempt to send mail to sendmail via telnet?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: cfmail

2010-04-19 Thread Rob Parkhill

just add a cfif around the mail

cfif qgetdetails.recordcount gt 0

cfmail.

/cfmail
/cfif

Rob

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Damo Drumm
damien.dr...@quinn-group.comwrote:


 Hi
 Ive the below code and im trying to get it to check first that the
 confirmation field in the comments table is equal to 1 before it send

 at the minute its sending anyway

 any tips
 Thanks

 cfquery name=qgetdetails datasource=#test#
 Select *
 From comments
 where confirmation = 1
 /cfquery


 cfmail to=t...@123.com
bcc=t...@123,t...@123
from=m...@test.com
subject=Test

 Persons Name:#Name#
 Persons Email:#Email#
 Comments:#comments#
 /cfmail

 

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Re: cfmail

2010-04-19 Thread John M Bliss

 cfif qgetdetails.recordcount

cfmail ...

/cfif

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Damo Drumm
damien.dr...@quinn-group.comwrote:


 Hi
 Ive the below code and im trying to get it to check first that the
 confirmation field in the comments table is equal to 1 before it send

 at the minute its sending anyway

 any tips
 Thanks

 cfquery name=qgetdetails datasource=#test#
 Select *
 From comments
 where confirmation = 1
 /cfquery


 cfmail to=t...@123.com
bcc=t...@123,t...@123
from=m...@test.com
subject=Test

 Persons Name:#Name#
 Persons Email:#Email#
 Comments:#comments#
 /cfmail

 

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RE: cfmail

2010-04-19 Thread Rick Faircloth

Try the code below.  I added:

cfif qgetdetails.recordcount gt 0

/cfif

Rick


cfquery name=qgetdetails datasource=#test#
Select *
From comments
where confirmation = 1
/cfquery

cfif qgetdetails.recordcount gt 0

cfmail to=t...@123.com 
bcc=t...@123,t...@123 
from=m...@test.com 
subject=Test
   
Persons Name:#Name#
Persons Email:#Email#
Comments:#comments#
/cfmail

/cfif



-Original Message-
From: Damo Drumm [mailto:damien.dr...@quinn-group.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:53 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: cfmail


Hi
Ive the below code and im trying to get it to check first that the
confirmation field in the comments table is equal to 1 before it send

at the minute its sending anyway

any tips
Thanks

cfquery name=qgetdetails datasource=#test#
Select *
From comments
where confirmation = 1
/cfquery


cfmail to=t...@123.com 
bcc=t...@123,t...@123 
from=m...@test.com 
subject=Test
   
Persons Name:#Name#
Persons Email:#Email#
Comments:#comments#
/cfmail 



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RE: cfmail

2010-04-19 Thread Tiffany Trott

cfif qgetdetails.results gt 1 blah/cfif ? Rudimentary but would work

Tiffany Trott
Freelance CF Developer
codedaw...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Damo Drumm [mailto:damien.dr...@quinn-group.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:52 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: cfmail


Hi
Ive the below code and im trying to get it to check first that the
confirmation field in the comments table is equal to 1 before it send

at the minute its sending anyway

any tips
Thanks

cfquery name=qgetdetails datasource=#test#
Select *
From comments
where confirmation = 1
/cfquery


cfmail to=t...@123.com 
bcc=t...@123,t...@123 
from=m...@test.com 
subject=Test
   
Persons Name:#Name#
Persons Email:#Email#
Comments:#comments#
/cfmail 



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Re: cfmail with gmail - second question

2010-01-29 Thread rex

According to 
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=13287 
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=13287 gmail 
requires either SSL or TLS to send email from a client

I tried your code, but added the following and it worked:
port=465
useSSL=true

I haven't tried it, but if you want to use TLS instead of  SSL, you can do
port=587
useTLS=true


TechInfo wrote:
 Did you try putting ALL the attributes into the attributeCollection?  
 Even the port and useSSL ??  I just read that it is an all or 
 nothing collection.

 Jevo

 Matthew Smith wrote:
   
 I posted earlier about using cfmail with google hosted mail.  I was told it 
 would require cf8.  We ended up upgrading the account to cf8, but I still 
 can't get it to work.  Here is what I have.  The page runs without error, I 
 just don't ever receive the test mail:

 cfset mailAttributes = {
 server=smtp.gmail.com,
 username=webs...@website.com,
 password=password,
 from=webs...@website.com,
 to=rece...@gmail.com,
 subject=Eat my shorts
 }
 /

 cfmail port=465 useSSL=true
 attributeCollection=#mailAttributes#
   
 
 port 465, SSL enabled/cfmail
 
   
 cfmail port=587 useTLS=true
 attributeCollection=#mailAttributes#
   
 
 port 587, TLS enabled/cfmail
 
   
 cfmail port=465 useSSL=true useTLS=true
 attributeCollection=#mailAttributes#
   
 
 port 465, SSL and TLS enabled/cfmail
 
   

 

 

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Re: cfmail with gmail - second question

2010-01-28 Thread TechInfo

Did you try putting ALL the attributes into the attributeCollection?  
Even the port and useSSL ??  I just read that it is an all or 
nothing collection.

Jevo

Matthew Smith wrote:
 I posted earlier about using cfmail with google hosted mail.  I was told it 
 would require cf8.  We ended up upgrading the account to cf8, but I still 
 can't get it to work.  Here is what I have.  The page runs without error, I 
 just don't ever receive the test mail:

 cfset mailAttributes = {
 server=smtp.gmail.com,
 username=webs...@website.com,
 password=password,
 from=webs...@website.com,
 to=rece...@gmail.com,
 subject=Eat my shorts
 }
 /

 cfmail port=465 useSSL=true
 attributeCollection=#mailAttributes#
   
 port 465, SSL enabled/cfmail
 

 cfmail port=587 useTLS=true
 attributeCollection=#mailAttributes#
   
 port 587, TLS enabled/cfmail
 

 cfmail port=465 useSSL=true useTLS=true
 attributeCollection=#mailAttributes#
   
 port 465, SSL and TLS enabled/cfmail
 


 

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Re: cfmail through google

2010-01-20 Thread Matthew Smith

To my knowledge there is no way to use cfmail with gmail on CF7.  The
appropriate hooks (TLS/SSL) were not added into cfmail until CF8.

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Re: cfmail through google

2010-01-20 Thread Larry Lyons

To my knowledge there is no way to use cfmail with gmail on CF7.  The
appropriate hooks (TLS/SSL) were not added into cfmail until CF8.

About the only way to do this as far as I can see is to use the javaMail 
packages from Sun to access GMail under CFMX 7. see 
http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/

I have some old code at home that did something similar. I'll see if I can dig 
it up and post it.

hth,
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Re: cfmail through google

2010-01-20 Thread denstar

There's a cfjavamail tag for railo that should be easy to modify to
work with CF7.

http://trac.getrailo.org/railotags/wiki/CfJavaMail

There is a folder with some mxunit tests that work for GMail a couple
directories up in the repo (link to source is at the top of the wiki
page).

:den

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