Re: cfmail causing problems for our server
Mandrill is excellent. We've used it for a while. Just whack their smtp server into the cf admin and off you go. It's more customisable than that of course, but the base function of running your mail through their servers should do the job. On 10 December 2014 at 23:35, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: if it is just bulk SMTP you need then www.mandrill.com allows 12,000 per month for free. For something more advanced try www.sendgrid.com, they also offer an API which allows you to send emails without using CFMAIL or SMTP which has its benefits. If you want an actual mailing list manager then mailchimp.com On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote: My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail service instead. Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the DB? Thank you. Dave Long NorthGoods Merchant Services ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359845 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail causing problems for our server
Use a mail relay like STMP.com. Just change the smtp server for your mail blast to send through the relay. Robert Harrison Full Stack Developer AIMG rharri...@aimg.com Main Office: 704-321-1234 ext.121 Direct Line: 516-302-4345 www.aimg.com -Original Message- From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:23 PM To: cf-talk Subject: cfmail causing problems for our server My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail service instead. Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the DB? Thank you. Dave Long NorthGoods Merchant Services ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359792 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail causing problems for our server
Amazon SES was made for just this type of scenario. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote: My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail service instead. Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the DB? Thank you. Dave Long NorthGoods Merchant Services ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359793 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail causing problems for our server
My recommendation would be to have them create a MailChimp or Vertical Response (Constant Contact, Exact Target, etc.) account and just send emails through their API. VRs API is especially easy to send custom HTML through (http://developers.verticalresponse.com/docs/read/api_reference/emails ). Then you can also ensure CAN-SPAM compliance as well. If youre using a CMS to send the mail through, then you might need to create a module to hook in to the main mailing list feature, but the long-term result would be better. Jon On Dec 10, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote: My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail service instead. Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the DB? Thank you. Dave Long NorthGoods Merchant Services ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359794 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail causing problems for our server
I use and like mail chimp Rob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Dave Long d...@northgoods.com /divdivDate:12/10/2014 12:23 PM (GMT-06:00) /divdivTo: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com /divdivSubject: cfmail causing problems for our server /divdiv /div My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail service instead. Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the DB? Thank you. Dave Long NorthGoods Merchant Services ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359795 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail causing problems for our server
Thanks, everyone. I'll check them out. -Original Message- From: Rob Voyle [mailto:robvo...@voyle.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 12:42 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: cfmail causing problems for our server I use and like mail chimp Rob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Dave Long d...@northgoods.com /divdivDate:12/10/2014 12:23 PM (GMT-06:00) /divdivTo: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com /divdivSubject: cfmail causing problems for our server /divdiv /div My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail service instead. Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the DB? Thank you. Dave Long NorthGoods Merchant Services ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359796 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail causing problems for our server
if it is just bulk SMTP you need then www.mandrill.com allows 12,000 per month for free. For something more advanced try www.sendgrid.com, they also offer an API which allows you to send emails without using CFMAIL or SMTP which has its benefits. If you want an actual mailing list manager then mailchimp.com On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote: My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to intermittent e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider tells me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail service instead. Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell the DB? Thank you. Dave Long NorthGoods Merchant Services ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359800 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail and special characters
Hi David, thank you. I ended up with a workaround similar to it: cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist verfuegbar type=HTML Sehr geehrter ..., Mit freundlichen Grouml;ssen /cfmail So for ü (e.g.) I typed: uuml; Not nice, but at least it works. Uwe Have you tried using HTMLEditFormat? David Phelan Web Developer IT Security Web Technologies Emerging Health Montefiore Information Technology 3 Odell Plaza, Yonkers, NY 10701 914-457-6465 Office dphe...@emerginghealthit.com www.emerginghealthit.com www.montefiore.org From: Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:51 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfmail and special characters Hi Philipp, thanks. Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. Has anybody any other ideas ? @Philipp, can you send me one cfmail-code snippet with special characters that runs on your CF8/Linux-box as an example ? Uwe am Mittwoch, 10. September 2014 um 09:24 schrieben Sie: Uwe, try cfmail charset=utf-8... Gruß, Philipp Am 10.09.2014 um 09:17 schrieb Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de: Hi Everybody, to be honest: I am pulling my hair out ! I have a problem with cfmail and special characters. The german umlaute seem to be displayed wrong. This is the code: cfcontent type=text/html; charset=utf-8 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/ cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist verfuegbar CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=utf-8 Sehr geehrter ..., Mit freundlichen Grüßen /cfmail I have also tried: cfcontent type=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/ cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist verfuegbar CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=iso-8859-1 Sehr geehrter ..., Mit freundlichen Grüßen /cfmail Concerning the last line I always got: Mit freundlichen Gr??en instead of Mit freundlichen Grüßen I tried this on my ColdFusion 8 box with Windows. Absolutely no problem at all. When I switch to Linux (Debian or CentOS) it doesn't work. I also tried to change the charset on my linux boxes. No positive result. I tried to change the Mail Charset Settings in CF already. With also no positive results. Has anybody any other ideas ? Uwe ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359298 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail and special characters
Have you tried using HTMLEditFormat? David Phelan Web Developer IT Security Web Technologies Emerging Health Montefiore Information Technology 3 Odell Plaza, Yonkers, NY 10701 914-457-6465 Office dphe...@emerginghealthit.com www.emerginghealthit.com www.montefiore.org From: Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:51 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfmail and special characters Hi Philipp, thanks. Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. Has anybody any other ideas ? @Philipp, can you send me one cfmail-code snippet with special characters that runs on your CF8/Linux-box as an example ? Uwe am Mittwoch, 10. September 2014 um 09:24 schrieben Sie: Uwe, try cfmail charset=utf-8... Gruß, Philipp Am 10.09.2014 um 09:17 schrieb Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de: Hi Everybody, to be honest: I am pulling my hair out ! I have a problem with cfmail and special characters. The german umlaute seem to be displayed wrong. This is the code: cfcontent type=text/html; charset=utf-8 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/ cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist verfuegbar CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=utf-8 Sehr geehrter ..., Mit freundlichen Grüßen /cfmail I have also tried: cfcontent type=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/ cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist verfuegbar CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=iso-8859-1 Sehr geehrter ..., Mit freundlichen Grüßen /cfmail Concerning the last line I always got: Mit freundlichen Gr??en instead of Mit freundlichen Grüßen I tried this on my ColdFusion 8 box with Windows. Absolutely no problem at all. When I switch to Linux (Debian or CentOS) it doesn't work. I also tried to change the charset on my linux boxes. No positive result. I tried to change the Mail Charset Settings in CF already. With also no positive results. Has anybody any other ideas ? Uwe ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359292 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail and special characters
Uwe, try cfmail charset=utf-8... Gruß, Philipp Am 10.09.2014 um 09:17 schrieb Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de: Hi Everybody, to be honest: I am pulling my hair out ! I have a problem with cfmail and special characters. The german umlaute seem to be displayed wrong. This is the code: cfcontent type=text/html; charset=utf-8 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/ cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist verfuegbar CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=utf-8 Sehr geehrter ..., Mit freundlichen Grüßen /cfmail I have also tried: cfcontent type=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/ cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist verfuegbar CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=iso-8859-1 Sehr geehrter ..., Mit freundlichen Grüßen /cfmail Concerning the last line I always got: Mit freundlichen Gr??en instead of Mit freundlichen Grüßen I tried this on my ColdFusion 8 box with Windows. Absolutely no problem at all. When I switch to Linux (Debian or CentOS) it doesn't work. I also tried to change the charset on my linux boxes. No positive result. I tried to change the Mail Charset Settings in CF already. With also no positive results. Has anybody any other ideas ? Uwe ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359270 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail and special characters
Hi Philipp, thanks. Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. Has anybody any other ideas ? @Philipp, can you send me one cfmail-code snippet with special characters that runs on your CF8/Linux-box as an example ? Uwe am Mittwoch, 10. September 2014 um 09:24 schrieben Sie: Uwe, try cfmail charset=utf-8... Gruß, Philipp Am 10.09.2014 um 09:17 schrieb Uwe Degenhardt cf-t...@sdsolutions.de: Hi Everybody, to be honest: I am pulling my hair out ! I have a problem with cfmail and special characters. The german umlaute seem to be displayed wrong. This is the code: cfcontent type=text/html; charset=utf-8 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/ cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist verfuegbar CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=utf-8 Sehr geehrter ..., Mit freundlichen Grüßen /cfmail I have also tried: cfcontent type=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 cfset SetLocale(German (DE))/ cfmail to=x...@xxx.com from=x...@xxx.com subject=Eine neue Datei ist verfuegbar CFMAILPARAM NAME=charset VALUE=iso-8859-1 Sehr geehrter ..., Mit freundlichen Grüßen /cfmail Concerning the last line I always got: Mit freundlichen Gr??en instead of Mit freundlichen Grüßen I tried this on my ColdFusion 8 box with Windows. Absolutely no problem at all. When I switch to Linux (Debian or CentOS) it doesn't work. I also tried to change the charset on my linux boxes. No positive result. I tried to change the Mail Charset Settings in CF already. With also no positive results. Has anybody any other ideas ? Uwe ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359271 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL - SASL
SMTP authentication is an SMTP setting on the mail server not a cfmail setting, cfmail simply sends the username/password to authenticate. On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.comwrote: I'm trying to set up CFMAIL to use a relay server for one of my clients. The relay service says: Make sure that SMTP authentication (SASL) is turned ON I don't see any such setting in CFMAIL. Anyone know what this means? Thanks Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:357060 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL - SASL
if you want all emails to send using the same details, just set them in the cfadmin. On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: SMTP authentication is an SMTP setting on the mail server not a cfmail setting, cfmail simply sends the username/password to authenticate. On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: I'm trying to set up CFMAIL to use a relay server for one of my clients. The relay service says: Make sure that SMTP authentication (SASL) is turned ON I don't see any such setting in CFMAIL. Anyone know what this means? Thanks Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:357061 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFMAIL - SASL
Thanks... that probably will not be the case. I'll send the bulk email through the service. I'll probably keep the forms and such using the internal server. Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_williams -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:54 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFMAIL - SASL if you want all emails to send using the same details, just set them in the cfadmin. On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: SMTP authentication is an SMTP setting on the mail server not a cfmail setting, cfmail simply sends the username/password to authenticate. On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: I'm trying to set up CFMAIL to use a relay server for one of my clients. The relay service says: Make sure that SMTP authentication (SASL) is turned ON I don't see any such setting in CFMAIL. Anyone know what this means? Thanks Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:357062 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL - SASL
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Robert Harrison wrote: I'm trying to set up CFMAIL to use a relay server for one of my clients. The relay service says: Make sure that SMTP authentication (SASL) is turned ON I don't see any such setting in CFMAIL. Anyone know what this means SASL is an authentication protocol. Your best bet is to make sure you use both TLS and a username and password. Jochem ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:357063 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail Exchange 2010
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: We moved to google apps and never looked back. I now use hmail or smarter mail for smtp which is stress free. +1 -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf | twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc | google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356729 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail Exchange 2010
Dave I want to thank you for your help. I resolved the issue. Because my Exchange server and CF server are on different machines I had to create a new receive connector allowing relay from the IP address of my CF server. Out of the box, Exchange doesn't allow any relay from a remote machine. Your note made me realize this and I was able to resolve it: That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each individual IP address that you want to allow. Have a great weekend. Kind Regards, Rick Sanders T: 902-401-7689 W: www.webenergy.ca -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:33 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfmail Exchange 2010 OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the people in my query. The emails are valid. However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them. Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and I don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I tested and can send to my gmail account from the t...@mycompany.commailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems. My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and tried with and without TLS and the settings are fine. By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have to specifically configure it to do so. Messages to Exchange mailboxes on that server don't need to be proxied, so they get delivered. Thanks for the info, but my Exchange server is set up to send to the outside world. My send connector type is SMTP. I even tried relaying through my ISP as a smart host and still no sending to outside addresses from my Cold fusion Server. That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each individual IP address that you want to allow. In any case, you can verify this easily enough yourself. Open a telnet connection to your Exchange server from your CF server's console, and try to send an email that way. Google smtp telnet for more information on how to do that. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356720 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail Exchange 2010
Have a great weekend. You too! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356721 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail Exchange 2010
We had an exchange server once and it was a nightmare and the guy who was supposed to manage it had clearly bitten off more thsn he could chew and barely knew what he was doing and it was falling over all the time. I spent a few days working on it and would have tore my hair out if if I had any. I have worked with many mail servers over the years and exchange makes simple things complicated, tskes 100 times longer to do anything and many things cannot even be done via the gui. Everything seems to be a bolt on after thought. We moved to google apps and never looked back. I now use hmail or smarter mail for smtp which is stress free. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 6 Sep 2013 22:01, Rick Sanders r...@webenergy.ca wrote: Dave I want to thank you for your help. I resolved the issue. Because my Exchange server and CF server are on different machines I had to create a new receive connector allowing relay from the IP address of my CF server. Out of the box, Exchange doesn't allow any relay from a remote machine. Your note made me realize this and I was able to resolve it: That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each individual IP address that you want to allow. Have a great weekend. Kind Regards, Rick Sanders T: 902-401-7689 W: www.webenergy.ca -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:33 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfmail Exchange 2010 OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the people in my query. The emails are valid. However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them. Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and I don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I tested and can send to my gmail account from the t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems. My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and tried with and without TLS and the settings are fine. By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have to specifically configure it to do so. Messages to Exchange mailboxes on that server don't need to be proxied, so they get delivered. Thanks for the info, but my Exchange server is set up to send to the outside world. My send connector type is SMTP. I even tried relaying through my ISP as a smart host and still no sending to outside addresses from my Cold fusion Server. That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each individual IP address that you want to allow. In any case, you can verify this easily enough yourself. Open a telnet connection to your Exchange server from your CF server's console, and try to send an email that way. Google smtp telnet for more information on how to do that. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356725 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail Exchange 2010
OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the people in my query. The emails are valid. However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them. Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and I don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I tested and can send to my gmail account from the t...@mycompany.commailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems. My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and tried with and without TLS and the settings are fine. By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have to specifically configure it to do so. Messages to Exchange mailboxes on that server don't need to be proxied, so they get delivered. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356705 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail Exchange 2010
Thanks for the info, but my Exchange server is set up to send to the outside world. My send connector type is SMTP. I even tried relaying through my ISP as a smart host and still no sending to outside addresses from my Cold fusion Server. Kind Regards, Rick Sanders T: 902-401-7689 W: www.webenergy.ca -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 5:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfmail Exchange 2010 OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the people in my query. The emails are valid. However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them. Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and I don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I tested and can send to my gmail account from the t...@mycompany.commailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems. My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and tried with and without TLS and the settings are fine. By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have to specifically configure it to do so. Messages to Exchange mailboxes on that server don't need to be proxied, so they get delivered. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356706 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail Exchange 2010
OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the people in my query. The emails are valid. However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them. Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and I don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I tested and can send to my gmail account from the t...@mycompany.commailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems. My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and tried with and without TLS and the settings are fine. By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have to specifically configure it to do so. Messages to Exchange mailboxes on that server don't need to be proxied, so they get delivered. Thanks for the info, but my Exchange server is set up to send to the outside world. My send connector type is SMTP. I even tried relaying through my ISP as a smart host and still no sending to outside addresses from my Cold fusion Server. That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each individual IP address that you want to allow. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356707 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail Exchange 2010
OK, this is weird. I can send fine to any email address from the account I set up t...@mycompany.com mailto:t...@mycompany.com I'm doing a cfoutput query=emails and sending an email out to the people in my query. The emails are valid. However, only the people on the local Exchange server receive them. Anyone outside doesn't get them. I tested with my gmail account and I don't receive the email. But I get it on my exchange account. I tested and can send to my gmail account from the t...@mycompany.commailto:t...@mycompany.com directly no problems. My Cold Fusion server is on a different server than my Exchange server. I've tested the mail settings in the Cold fusion admin and tried with and without TLS and the settings are fine. By default, your Exchange server won't proxy SMTP messages. You have to specifically configure it to do so. Messages to Exchange mailboxes on that server don't need to be proxied, so they get delivered. Thanks for the info, but my Exchange server is set up to send to the outside world. My send connector type is SMTP. I even tried relaying through my ISP as a smart host and still no sending to outside addresses from my Cold fusion Server. That doesn't mean that any server can relay through your Exchange server (I hope!). Typically, you have to enable relay for each individual IP address that you want to allow. In any case, you can verify this easily enough yourself. Open a telnet connection to your Exchange server from your CF server's console, and try to send an email that way. Google smtp telnet for more information on how to do that. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356708 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Question
Thanks a lot for your help Mark! The following suggestion worked perfectly. cfifstructKeyExists(form,'maillist')YescfelseNo/cfif Robert Robert, Since the box is either checked or Unchecked that's all you need. You don't really need to worry about the value at all. If the form field shows up then the user checked the box. That's how checkboxes work. Subscribe To Newsletter? cfif structKetyExists(form,'maillist')YescfelseNo/cfif Notice I use structkey exists. Also you do not need pound signs around #form.mailist# unless you intend for it to be displayed :) Here's another approach for you. In the checkbox attributes set value=1 (instead of zero). Then wherever you set up default values add this cfparam. cfparam name=form.maillist default=0/ Then you can leverage the YesNoFormat( ) function of CF... Subscribe To e-Newsletter? #yesNoFormat(form.maillist)# Good luck! Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.932.3318 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger I hope someone can help me with this. I'm kind of stuck on the conditional.. I have a newsletter signup form that includes a check box that is check by default. label for=mailListinput checked=checked id=mailList name=mailList tabindex=14 type=checkbox value=0 width=5px /span class=checkboxI would like to receive your e-newsletter./span/label I'm trying to email the answer, yes or no, based on whether or not the box is checked. Here is the conditional code between my cfmail/cfmail tags.. Subscribe to e-newsletter? cfif isDefined(form.mailList) AND Len(form.mailList)cfif NOT Compare(#form.mailList#,0)yescfelseno/cfif/cfif If someone checks the box I get the sentence Subscribe to e-newsletter? Yes in an email. If someone does not check the box I get Subscribe to e-newsletter? I can't figure out how to get the No to show up in the email when the box is not checked. I feal like I'm close here but just can't seem to get the No answer emailed when the box is not checked. Thanks a lot for your help!! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356122 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFMail Question
Glad to help :) -Original Message- From: Robert Sneed [mailto:robertsn...@rhsneed.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFMail Question Thanks a lot for your help Mark! The following suggestion worked perfectly. cfifstructKeyExists(form,'maillist')YescfelseNo/cfif Robert Robert, Since the box is either checked or Unchecked that's all you need. You don't really need to worry about the value at all. If the form field shows up then the user checked the box. That's how checkboxes work. Subscribe To Newsletter? cfif structKetyExists(form,'maillist')YescfelseNo/cfif Notice I use structkey exists. Also you do not need pound signs around #form.mailist# unless you intend for it to be displayed :) Here's another approach for you. In the checkbox attributes set value=1 (instead of zero). Then wherever you set up default values add this cfparam. cfparam name=form.maillist default=0/ Then you can leverage the YesNoFormat( ) function of CF... Subscribe To e-Newsletter? #yesNoFormat(form.maillist)# Good luck! Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.932.3318 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger I hope someone can help me with this. I'm kind of stuck on the conditional.. I have a newsletter signup form that includes a check box that is check by default. label for=mailListinput checked=checked id=mailList name=mailList tabindex=14 type=checkbox value=0 width=5px /span class=checkboxI would like to receive your e-newsletter./span/label I'm trying to email the answer, yes or no, based on whether or not the box is checked. Here is the conditional code between my cfmail/cfmail tags.. Subscribe to e-newsletter? cfif isDefined(form.mailList) AND Len(form.mailList)cfif NOT Compare(#form.mailList#,0)yescfelseno/cfif/cfif If someone checks the box I get the sentence Subscribe to e-newsletter? Yes in an email. If someone does not check the box I get Subscribe to e-newsletter? I can't figure out how to get the No to show up in the email when the box is not checked. I feal like I'm close here but just can't seem to get the No answer emailed when the box is not checked. Thanks a lot for your help!! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356125 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Question
By default the form field will only exist if the checkbox is checked, so you could do: Subscribe to newsletter? cfoutput#yesNoFormat(isDefined(form.mailList))#/cfoutput As an aside, in the anti-spam and e-mail deliverability communities it is generally considered a bad practice to have these sorts of options checked by default. -Justin On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Robert Sneed robertsn...@rhsneed.com wrote: I hope someone can help me with this. I'm kind of stuck on the conditional. I have a newsletter signup form that includes a check box that is check by default. label for=mailListinput checked=checked id=mailList name=mailList tabindex=14 type=checkbox value=0 width=5px /span class=checkboxI would like to receive your e-newsletter./span/label I'm trying to email the answer, yes or no, based on whether or not the box is checked. Here is the conditional code between my cfmail/cfmail tags. Subscribe to e-newsletter? cfif isDefined(form.mailList) AND Len(form.mailList)cfif NOT Compare(#form.mailList#,0)yescfelseno/cfif/cfif If someone checks the box I get the sentence Subscribe to e-newsletter? Yes in an email. If someone does not check the box I get Subscribe to e-newsletter? I can't figure out how to get the No to show up in the email when the box is not checked. I feal like I'm close here but just can't seem to get the No answer emailed when the box is not checked. Thanks a lot for your help!! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356091 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFMail Question
Robert, Since the box is either checked or Unchecked that's all you need. You don't really need to worry about the value at all. If the form field shows up then the user checked the box. That's how checkboxes work. Subscribe To Newsletter? cfif structKetyExists(form,'maillist')YescfelseNo/cfif Notice I use structkey exists. Also you do not need pound signs around #form.mailist# unless you intend for it to be displayed :) Here's another approach for you. In the checkbox attributes set value=1 (instead of zero). Then wherever you set up default values add this cfparam. cfparam name=form.maillist default=0/ Then you can leverage the YesNoFormat( ) function of CF... Subscribe To e-Newsletter? #yesNoFormat(form.maillist)# Good luck! Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.932.3318 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger -Original Message- From: Robert Sneed [mailto:robertsn...@rhsneed.com] Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:17 AM To: cf-talk Subject: CFMail Question I hope someone can help me with this. I'm kind of stuck on the conditional. I have a newsletter signup form that includes a check box that is check by default. label for=mailListinput checked=checked id=mailList name=mailList tabindex=14 type=checkbox value=0 width=5px /span class=checkboxI would like to receive your e-newsletter./span/label I'm trying to email the answer, yes or no, based on whether or not the box is checked. Here is the conditional code between my cfmail/cfmail tags. Subscribe to e-newsletter? cfif isDefined(form.mailList) AND Len(form.mailList)cfif NOT Compare(#form.mailList#,0)yescfelseno/cfif/cfif If someone checks the box I get the sentence Subscribe to e-newsletter? Yes in an email. If someone does not check the box I get Subscribe to e-newsletter? I can't figure out how to get the No to show up in the email when the box is not checked. I feal like I'm close here but just can't seem to get the No answer emailed when the box is not checked. Thanks a lot for your help!! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356092 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10
So are you saying that some emails with no body are sending? You should test this to be sure. I would still change these emails if I were you and add a body as it seems that solves the issue. Plus emails eith no body will br blocked by some mail filters. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk On 19 Jun 2013 14:11, Zad I zadi...@gmail.com wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356034 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10
Yes, we regularly send out emails to both internal and external users with no body in the email. The only content that it includes is an attachment and subject. But I guess it might be a good thing to include content from here on end, especially if it falls within the rules of RFC email compliance. Occasionally, I've seen this error happen right after a failed connectivity issue with ColdFusion and the SMTP server. If any emails just so happen to be in queue during the time of the SMTP connection error, then the mails in the spool folder all get sent to the Undeliverable folder. Then when our custom script kicks in to re-spool, it goes right back to undeliverable folder. The error in the logs gives us the same message about the body missing. So are you saying that some emails with no body are sending? You should test this to be sure. I would still change these emails if I were you and add a body as it seems that solves the issue. Plus emails eith no body will br blocked by some mail filters. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk On 19 Jun 2013 14:11, Zad I zadi...@gmail.com wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356035 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10
Hmmm, if it is enforced then why so randomly? I would've expected this to occur on every instance. You do bring up a good point though in terms of reaching external users who may have rules that are a bit more strict than the norm. Except, this seems to occur locally before it can even hit externally. it is actually an RFC that an email must have a body, so I suspect that is now enforced in javax.mail.which is a good thing, as this means it is RFC compliant. As you have said that adding a body to these messages makes them send, then you have already found the solution, just add a body to the original emails. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356010 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10
So are you saying that some emails with no body are sending? You should test this to be sure. I would still change these emails if I were you and add a body as it seems that solves the issue. Plus emails eith no body will br blocked by some mail filters. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk On 19 Jun 2013 14:11, Zad I zadi...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, if it is enforced then why so randomly? I would've expected this to occur on every instance. You do bring up a good point though in terms of reaching external users who may have rules that are a bit more strict than the norm. Except, this seems to occur locally before it can even hit externally. it is actually an RFC that an email must have a body, so I suspect that is now enforced in javax.mail.which is a good thing, as this means it is RFC compliant. As you have said that adding a body to these messages makes them send, then you have already found the solution, just add a body to the original emails. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356018 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10
Please attach the code used to generate the emails. We will need that to have any ideas on why they are not working. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Zad I zadi...@gmail.com wrote: Ever since upgrading to CF10, we've been having some odd issues with our automated ColdFusion emails. The processes always functioned properly in the past, but lately we've been getting some very out of the ordinary issues which I'll describe further below. We discover the problem usually from contacts who usually receive these emails on a daily basis with or without attachments. We'll go to the CFMAIL directory for the corresponding server and find a slew of emails stuck in the 'Undelivr' emails. In some cases, we can just move these emails to the Spool folder and they process fine, but in most cases they result in one of the two errors below: Error 1: In an email which normally does not contain a body and contains an attachment, the follow error is what we found in the logs: - Error,scheduler-1,01/15/13,14:09:56,,javax.mail.MessagingExce ption: missing body for message javax.mail.MessagingException: missing body for message at coldfusion.mail.MailImpl.createMessage(MailImpl.java:696) at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliver(MailSpooler.java:1295) at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.sendMail(MailSpooler.java:1197) at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliverFast(MailSpooler.java:1657) at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.run(MailSpooler.java:1567) at coldfusion.scheduling.ThreadPool.run(ThreadPool.java:211) at coldfusion.scheduling.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:71) --- Placing these emails that have always been sent out this way in the past without an attachment in the spool directory causes it to go right back in the 'Undelivr' folder and resulting in the same error. We ended up having to modify the email file and add random content in the body message, place it back in the spool directory, and it went through. - Mind boggling. Error 2: -- Error,scheduler-2,02/04/13,09:08:17,,javax.mail.MessagingExce ption: Exception reading response; nested exception is: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset Both errors occur randomly and we have not been able to find out what causes them randomly from time to time. All other emails go through fine, but certain emails will never go out and end up in the 'Undelivr' folder. We are running them on Windows Server 2008 64bit. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355966 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10
it is actually an RFC that an email must have a body, so I suspect that is now enforced in javax.mail.which is a good thing, as this means it is RFC compliant. As you have said that adding a body to these messages makes them send, then you have already found the solution, just add a body to the original emails. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Zad I zadi...@gmail.com wrote: Ever since upgrading to CF10, we've been having some odd issues with our automated ColdFusion emails. The processes always functioned properly in the past, but lately we've been getting some very out of the ordinary issues which I'll describe further below. We discover the problem usually from contacts who usually receive these emails on a daily basis with or without attachments. We'll go to the CFMAIL directory for the corresponding server and find a slew of emails stuck in the 'Undelivr' emails. In some cases, we can just move these emails to the Spool folder and they process fine, but in most cases they result in one of the two errors below: Error 1: In an email which normally does not contain a body and contains an attachment, the follow error is what we found in the logs: - Error,scheduler-1,01/15/13,14:09:56,,javax.mail.MessagingExce ption: missing body for message javax.mail.MessagingException: missing body for message at coldfusion.mail.MailImpl.createMessage(MailImpl.java:696) at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliver(MailSpooler.java:1295) at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.sendMail(MailSpooler.java:1197) at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliverFast(MailSpooler.java:1657) at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.run(MailSpooler.java:1567) at coldfusion.scheduling.ThreadPool.run(ThreadPool.java:211) at coldfusion.scheduling.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:71) --- Placing these emails that have always been sent out this way in the past without an attachment in the spool directory causes it to go right back in the 'Undelivr' folder and resulting in the same error. We ended up having to modify the email file and add random content in the body message, place it back in the spool directory, and it went through. - Mind boggling. Error 2: -- Error,scheduler-2,02/04/13,09:08:17,,javax.mail.MessagingExce ption: Exception reading response; nested exception is: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset Both errors occur randomly and we have not been able to find out what causes them randomly from time to time. All other emails go through fine, but certain emails will never go out and end up in the 'Undelivr' folder. We are running them on Windows Server 2008 64bit. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355968 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
Russ, I think you have missed my point. There are thousands of posts on the Adobe Forums, where people have documented that they have some issue or another, where often they haven't even tried to dig down to the true core of those issues. There are many times where someone says this doesn't work, and place the blame in the wrong direction. I'm not saying that this is the case here, I'm just saying that, in my experience these problems typically exist outside of the application server. Not saying there aren't hiccups, or that things have always been perfect, but I am saying this requires full examination before pointing fingers. I am also saying that, personally, I have always discovered that these issues are not in the app server, but in some external system or process. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/5/2013 12:00 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: Steve, I think you have missed the point. Other people do have this issue and have had this issue, it is documented on the Adobe forums, as I have mentioned, so it is not a one off co-occurrence, as an Adobe Community Professional, I would have thought you would use the Adobe forums and be aware of common issues. Many more people could be having this issue than documented or realised simply because they are not aware of the missing emails. Your scenario is unique to you, it doesn't apply to every one else. We for example run servers with hundreds of websites, all sending emails to different destinations, we have absolutely no idea if any of those emails do not get sent and no way to tell unless a client tells us, and they would have no way to know unless someone tells them. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: You would think that's the case, but it really wasn't. Ours was a lead generation system for sales people. When leads were submitted on the sites (2000+), they were cataloged in the db, available in an admin interface, and emailed to the salespeople, or their CRM systems, etc. If the client saw a lead in the admin that was not received by them, or their CRM, they were very quick to raise the flag, because that would mean they might be losing leads (and potential sales). So, while we might not have been notified of every instance, it's unlikely that there were very many we wouldn't have heard about. We experienced issues. But, in the end, each issue could be explained. One time the systems team changed the IP address of the SMTP server. My boss had originally configured the mail settings in the servers with IPs instead of domain names. It took 5 hours to respool all of the messages. Another time one client stopped receiving all comms from their site. Turns out they had their email hosted through a third party, and the IP of our SMTP server had been blacklisted because of another client doing bulk emailers. That same blacklist was used by multiple mail service providers. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/5/2013 6:50 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: Dozens is literally nothing out of 800k per day. Imagine saying you are aware of every tv show on every channel, every day, how would you know of a glitch or disruption in any of those programmes unless you are watching them all or someone tells you. Even if someone told you about a couple of channels, there are hundreds of others you are still unaware of. The chances of you being aware of or told of every missing email when you send large qualtities is almost impossible. So anyone certainly could have this issue without realising. I am not saying that you do have this issue, simply that you could. If you check the Adobe forums you will see those other reports I mentioned of this same issue. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 5, 2013 11:30 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: I've had dozens of reports of missing mail, and it has always come down to something other than CF. The email address was wrong, the SMTP server was down, the domain of the sender had been blacklisted, something along these kind of lines. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe
Re: CFMail alternative
it has been shown on all the reported instances I saw that the mails in question never reached the smtp server as did not show in the mail logs on the server despite cf saying hey were sent, and were not in undelivered folder, they simply vanished. I'm afraid I can't think of any better ways to explain it, and I don't really have the time or inclination to go trudging through the forums trying to prove it to you, so a non believer you must remain. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 6, 2013 6:05 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: Russ, I think you have missed my point. There are thousands of posts on the Adobe Forums, where people have documented that they have some issue or another, where often they haven't even tried to dig down to the true core of those issues. There are many times where someone says this doesn't work, and place the blame in the wrong direction. I'm not saying that this is the case here, I'm just saying that, in my experience these problems typically exist outside of the application server. Not saying there aren't hiccups, or that things have always been perfect, but I am saying this requires full examination before pointing fingers. I am also saying that, personally, I have always discovered that these issues are not in the app server, but in some external system or process. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/5/2013 12:00 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: Steve, I think you have missed the point. Other people do have this issue and have had this issue, it is documented on the Adobe forums, as I have mentioned, so it is not a one off co-occurrence, as an Adobe Community Professional, I would have thought you would use the Adobe forums and be aware of common issues. Many more people could be having this issue than documented or realised simply because they are not aware of the missing emails. Your scenario is unique to you, it doesn't apply to every one else. We for example run servers with hundreds of websites, all sending emails to different destinations, we have absolutely no idea if any of those emails do not get sent and no way to tell unless a client tells us, and they would have no way to know unless someone tells them. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: You would think that's the case, but it really wasn't. Ours was a lead generation system for sales people. When leads were submitted on the sites (2000+), they were cataloged in the db, available in an admin interface, and emailed to the salespeople, or their CRM systems, etc. If the client saw a lead in the admin that was not received by them, or their CRM, they were very quick to raise the flag, because that would mean they might be losing leads (and potential sales). So, while we might not have been notified of every instance, it's unlikely that there were very many we wouldn't have heard about. We experienced issues. But, in the end, each issue could be explained. One time the systems team changed the IP address of the SMTP server. My boss had originally configured the mail settings in the servers with IPs instead of domain names. It took 5 hours to respool all of the messages. Another time one client stopped receiving all comms from their site. Turns out they had their email hosted through a third party, and the IP of our SMTP server had been blacklisted because of another client doing bulk emailers. That same blacklist was used by multiple mail service providers. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/5/2013 6:50 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: Dozens is literally nothing out of 800k per day. Imagine saying you are aware of every tv show on every channel, every day, how would you know of a glitch or disruption in any of those programmes unless you are watching them all or someone tells you. Even if someone told you about a couple of channels, there are hundreds of others you are still unaware of. The chances of you being aware of or told of every missing email when you send large qualtities is almost impossible.
Re: CFMail alternative
it has been shown on all the reported instances I saw that the mails in question never reached the smtp server as did not show in the mail logs on the server despite cf saying hey were sent, and were not in undelivered folder, they simply vanished. So if you have one log file that says CF sent the message successfully, and another log file that says that your mail server didn't receive a message, why do you assume that the mail server log is right and the CF log is wrong? I mean, there's a big difference between just failing to deliver a message, and both failing to deliver a message but also logging that the message was sent! I can think of one case where I've run into a similar issue, and the root case was a spam filtering measure on the recipient server. CF said it had been sent, but the recipient system (Postini) did not list it. It turned out to be a feature in Postini called Blatant Spam Blocking which caused the incoming message to be dropped and not delivered or even logged by Postini. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355300 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
Where is the like button in here :-) Sendt fra min iPad Den 6. apr. 2013 kl. 21:23 skrev Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com: it has been shown on all the reported instances I saw that the mails in question never reached the smtp server as did not show in the mail logs on the server despite cf saying hey were sent, and were not in undelivered folder, they simply vanished. So if you have one log file that says CF sent the message successfully, and another log file that says that your mail server didn't receive a message, why do you assume that the mail server log is right and the CF log is wrong? I mean, there's a big difference between just failing to deliver a message, and both failing to deliver a message but also logging that the message was sent! I can think of one case where I've run into a similar issue, and the root case was a spam filtering measure on the recipient server. CF said it had been sent, but the recipient system (Postini) did not list it. It turned out to be a feature in Postini called Blatant Spam Blocking which caused the incoming message to be dropped and not delivered or even logged by Postini. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355301 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
I've had dozens of reports of missing mail, and it has always come down to something other than CF. The email address was wrong, the SMTP server was down, the domain of the sender had been blacklisted, something along these kind of lines. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/4/2013 5:26 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: This has been reported many times on the forums. You say it has not happened to you, but how would know unless someone actually contacted you to say they had not reveived an email and you investigated it. In most cases of missing email, someone simply resends it and your none the wiser. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 4, 2013 9:48 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day. When you say there is no record on the mail server, do you mean the recipient server? Or the SMTP server? Is there a spam filtering server in between somewhere? Does your CF server authenticate with your SMTP server on send? What sort of security checks and balances are setup on your SMTP server? If you have an entry in the CF Sent Mail log, then there was a valid handoff of your message to your SMTP server. If the hand off fails, it drops to the Undelivered folder. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/4/2013 12:15 PM, Brian Cain wrote: I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail messages. The mail log show the messages being delivered to the mail server, but there is no record on the mail server. I found this thread on Adobe's website (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585718), but there never seemed to be an actual resolution of the issue. I have tried contacting Adobe support, but that has led to nowhere. Most messages go out, but i need 100% reliability for this. Seeing as the problem is not with the CFMAIL tag, or my mail server (everything worked fine before we migrated to CF9 last year), I need an alternative that will completely bypass the CF engine all together. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355290 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
Dozens is literally nothing out of 800k per day. Imagine saying you are aware of every tv show on every channel, every day, how would you know of a glitch or disruption in any of those programmes unless you are watching them all or someone tells you. Even if someone told you about a couple of channels, there are hundreds of others you are still unaware of. The chances of you being aware of or told of every missing email when you send large qualtities is almost impossible. So anyone certainly could have this issue without realising. I am not saying that you do have this issue, simply that you could. If you check the Adobe forums you will see those other reports I mentioned of this same issue. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 5, 2013 11:30 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: I've had dozens of reports of missing mail, and it has always come down to something other than CF. The email address was wrong, the SMTP server was down, the domain of the sender had been blacklisted, something along these kind of lines. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/4/2013 5:26 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: This has been reported many times on the forums. You say it has not happened to you, but how would know unless someone actually contacted you to say they had not reveived an email and you investigated it. In most cases of missing email, someone simply resends it and your none the wiser. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 4, 2013 9:48 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day. When you say there is no record on the mail server, do you mean the recipient server? Or the SMTP server? Is there a spam filtering server in between somewhere? Does your CF server authenticate with your SMTP server on send? What sort of security checks and balances are setup on your SMTP server? If you have an entry in the CF Sent Mail log, then there was a valid handoff of your message to your SMTP server. If the hand off fails, it drops to the Undelivered folder. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/4/2013 12:15 PM, Brian Cain wrote: I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail messages. The mail log show the messages being delivered to the mail server, but there is no record on the mail server. I found this thread on Adobe's website (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585718), but there never seemed to be an actual resolution of the issue. I have tried contacting Adobe support, but that has led to nowhere. Most messages go out, but i need 100% reliability for this. Seeing as the problem is not with the CFMAIL tag, or my mail server (everything worked fine before we migrated to CF9 last year), I need an alternative that will completely bypass the CF engine all together. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355291 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
You would think that's the case, but it really wasn't. Ours was a lead generation system for sales people. When leads were submitted on the sites (2000+), they were cataloged in the db, available in an admin interface, and emailed to the salespeople, or their CRM systems, etc. If the client saw a lead in the admin that was not received by them, or their CRM, they were very quick to raise the flag, because that would mean they might be losing leads (and potential sales). So, while we might not have been notified of every instance, it's unlikely that there were very many we wouldn't have heard about. We experienced issues. But, in the end, each issue could be explained. One time the systems team changed the IP address of the SMTP server. My boss had originally configured the mail settings in the servers with IPs instead of domain names. It took 5 hours to respool all of the messages. Another time one client stopped receiving all comms from their site. Turns out they had their email hosted through a third party, and the IP of our SMTP server had been blacklisted because of another client doing bulk emailers. That same blacklist was used by multiple mail service providers. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/5/2013 6:50 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: Dozens is literally nothing out of 800k per day. Imagine saying you are aware of every tv show on every channel, every day, how would you know of a glitch or disruption in any of those programmes unless you are watching them all or someone tells you. Even if someone told you about a couple of channels, there are hundreds of others you are still unaware of. The chances of you being aware of or told of every missing email when you send large qualtities is almost impossible. So anyone certainly could have this issue without realising. I am not saying that you do have this issue, simply that you could. If you check the Adobe forums you will see those other reports I mentioned of this same issue. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 5, 2013 11:30 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: I've had dozens of reports of missing mail, and it has always come down to something other than CF. The email address was wrong, the SMTP server was down, the domain of the sender had been blacklisted, something along these kind of lines. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/4/2013 5:26 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: This has been reported many times on the forums. You say it has not happened to you, but how would know unless someone actually contacted you to say they had not reveived an email and you investigated it. In most cases of missing email, someone simply resends it and your none the wiser. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 4, 2013 9:48 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day. When you say there is no record on the mail server, do you mean the recipient server? Or the SMTP server? Is there a spam filtering server in between somewhere? Does your CF server authenticate with your SMTP server on send? What sort of security checks and balances are setup on your SMTP server? If you have an entry in the CF Sent Mail log, then there was a valid handoff of your message to your SMTP server. If the hand off fails, it drops to the Undelivered folder. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/4/2013 12:15 PM, Brian Cain wrote: I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail messages. The
Re: CFMail alternative
Steve, I think you have missed the point. Other people do have this issue and have had this issue, it is documented on the Adobe forums, as I have mentioned, so it is not a one off co-occurrence, as an Adobe Community Professional, I would have thought you would use the Adobe forums and be aware of common issues. Many more people could be having this issue than documented or realised simply because they are not aware of the missing emails. Your scenario is unique to you, it doesn't apply to every one else. We for example run servers with hundreds of websites, all sending emails to different destinations, we have absolutely no idea if any of those emails do not get sent and no way to tell unless a client tells us, and they would have no way to know unless someone tells them. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: You would think that's the case, but it really wasn't. Ours was a lead generation system for sales people. When leads were submitted on the sites (2000+), they were cataloged in the db, available in an admin interface, and emailed to the salespeople, or their CRM systems, etc. If the client saw a lead in the admin that was not received by them, or their CRM, they were very quick to raise the flag, because that would mean they might be losing leads (and potential sales). So, while we might not have been notified of every instance, it's unlikely that there were very many we wouldn't have heard about. We experienced issues. But, in the end, each issue could be explained. One time the systems team changed the IP address of the SMTP server. My boss had originally configured the mail settings in the servers with IPs instead of domain names. It took 5 hours to respool all of the messages. Another time one client stopped receiving all comms from their site. Turns out they had their email hosted through a third party, and the IP of our SMTP server had been blacklisted because of another client doing bulk emailers. That same blacklist was used by multiple mail service providers. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/5/2013 6:50 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: Dozens is literally nothing out of 800k per day. Imagine saying you are aware of every tv show on every channel, every day, how would you know of a glitch or disruption in any of those programmes unless you are watching them all or someone tells you. Even if someone told you about a couple of channels, there are hundreds of others you are still unaware of. The chances of you being aware of or told of every missing email when you send large qualtities is almost impossible. So anyone certainly could have this issue without realising. I am not saying that you do have this issue, simply that you could. If you check the Adobe forums you will see those other reports I mentioned of this same issue. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 5, 2013 11:30 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: I've had dozens of reports of missing mail, and it has always come down to something other than CF. The email address was wrong, the SMTP server was down, the domain of the sender had been blacklisted, something along these kind of lines. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/4/2013 5:26 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: This has been reported many times on the forums. You say it has not happened to you, but how would know unless someone actually contacted you to say they had not reveived an email and you investigated it. In most cases of missing email, someone simply resends it and your none the wiser. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 4, 2013 9:48 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day. When you say there
RE: CFMail alternative
Other people do have this issue and have had this issue, it is documented on the Adobe forums Could you send a link to that? I ask because we have a custom built email module that uses CFMAIL. It works much like Constant Contact. It let's users build mailers from templates, send bulk mail (ten or thousands per site), tracks the opens, tracks clicks, etc. We have it deployed on more than 50 sites and there is an open rate and click trough rate similar to or even higher than what we normally get from a campaign running Constant Contact. There have sometimes been problems but we've always trace them to spam filters, blacklists, or something not CF related. If there's a problem with CFMAIL and not a problem with server management or the typical mail server issues, I'd like to review it. I have hundreds of thousands mails running through CFMAIL and too much at stake not to be aware of a CF problem... so far I've seen no indication of a problem with CFMAIL, but new information is always appreciated. Thanks Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355296 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
I do not have a bookmarked link, so you would need to search the forums to find the threads. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.comwrote: Other people do have this issue and have had this issue, it is documented on the Adobe forums Could you send a link to that? I ask because we have a custom built email module that uses CFMAIL. It works much like Constant Contact. It let's users build mailers from templates, send bulk mail (ten or thousands per site), tracks the opens, tracks clicks, etc. We have it deployed on more than 50 sites and there is an open rate and click trough rate similar to or even higher than what we normally get from a campaign running Constant Contact. There have sometimes been problems but we've always trace them to spam filters, blacklists, or something not CF related. If there's a problem with CFMAIL and not a problem with server management or the typical mail server issues, I'd like to review it. I have hundreds of thousands mails running through CFMAIL and too much at stake not to be aware of a CF problem... so far I've seen no indication of a problem with CFMAIL, but new information is always appreciated. Thanks Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355297 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
but there is no record on the mail server Are you sure the mesages are not in the undelivered folder? I was having the same issue until I realized that my mail server had a limit of 1000 messages sent per hour. So after this limit was reached, messages were simply refused and stored by CF in the undelivered. Removing the limit solved the problem. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355268 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
if you want to bypass cfmail then take a look at sendgrid.net, they have an API for sending mail, so you get more control, more reporting, and bypass cfmail and your mailserver altogether. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Brian Cain bcc9...@gmail.com wrote: I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail messages. The mail log show the messages being delivered to the mail server, but there is no record on the mail server. I found this thread on Adobe's website (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585718), but there never seemed to be an actual resolution of the issue. I have tried contacting Adobe support, but that has led to nowhere. Most messages go out, but i need 100% reliability for this. Seeing as the problem is not with the CFMAIL tag, or my mail server (everything worked fine before we migrated to CF9 last year), I need an alternative that will completely bypass the CF engine all together. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355269 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
Positive they are not there. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM, wrote: but there is no record on the mail server Are you sure the mesages are not in the undelivered folder? I was having the same issue until I realized that my mail server had a limit of 1000 messages sent per hour. So after this limit was reached, messages were simply refused and stored by CF in the undelivered. Removing the limit solved the problem. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355273 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day. When you say there is no record on the mail server, do you mean the recipient server? Or the SMTP server? Is there a spam filtering server in between somewhere? Does your CF server authenticate with your SMTP server on send? What sort of security checks and balances are setup on your SMTP server? If you have an entry in the CF Sent Mail log, then there was a valid handoff of your message to your SMTP server. If the hand off fails, it drops to the Undelivered folder. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/4/2013 12:15 PM, Brian Cain wrote: I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail messages. The mail log show the messages being delivered to the mail server, but there is no record on the mail server. I found this thread on Adobe's website (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585718), but there never seemed to be an actual resolution of the issue. I have tried contacting Adobe support, but that has led to nowhere. Most messages go out, but i need 100% reliability for this. Seeing as the problem is not with the CFMAIL tag, or my mail server (everything worked fine before we migrated to CF9 last year), I need an alternative that will completely bypass the CF engine all together. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355280 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail alternative
This has been reported many times on the forums. You say it has not happened to you, but how would know unless someone actually contacted you to say they had not reveived an email and you investigated it. In most cases of missing email, someone simply resends it and your none the wiser. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 4, 2013 9:48 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: That is surprising. Thirteen years with CF, from v4 thru 10, and that has never been my experience. It has always come down to the SMTP server, or the recipient, 100% of the time. One environment I ran processed upwards of 800,000 emails a day. When you say there is no record on the mail server, do you mean the recipient server? Or the SMTP server? Is there a spam filtering server in between somewhere? Does your CF server authenticate with your SMTP server on send? What sort of security checks and balances are setup on your SMTP server? If you have an entry in the CF Sent Mail log, then there was a valid handoff of your message to your SMTP server. If the hand off fails, it drops to the Undelivered folder. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 4/4/2013 12:15 PM, Brian Cain wrote: I have had an ongoing problem with ColdFusion dropping some mail messages. The mail log show the messages being delivered to the mail server, but there is no record on the mail server. I found this thread on Adobe's website (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/585718), but there never seemed to be an actual resolution of the issue. I have tried contacting Adobe support, but that has led to nowhere. Most messages go out, but i need 100% reliability for this. Seeing as the problem is not with the CFMAIL tag, or my mail server (everything worked fine before we migrated to CF9 last year), I need an alternative that will completely bypass the CF engine all together. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355288 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL Not getting to mail server
If the mail log doesn't show the messages as being bounced and undeliverable (and the messaged don't end up in the cfmail\undelivr folder in your ColdFusion install directory), then the problem is likely with your downstream mail server, not with ColdFusion. Did you propagate the same SMTP server settings from your CF7 install to your CF9 install? -Carl V. On 11/27/2012 2:23 PM, Brian Cain wrote: Hello All, I recently migrated to CF 9 from 7, and there seems to be an issue with not all cfmail messages going out. I an not getting any errors, and the log files in CF actually show the messages in the mail sent log, but there is no trace of them after that on my mail server or the client end. This problem did not start happening until after I migrated to CF9, and there have been no changes in the code or environment beyond that. This does not happen to all messages, but it happens often enough that is a problem. Does anyone have any ideas of how to fix this issues. I found some threads about this issue and other people experiencing it, but no solutions or help from Adobe on a permanent fix. Thanks, Brian Cain ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353305 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL Problem with new TLDs
On CF9, cfmail seems to be having a problem sending email to some of the newer address, like som...@sprucegrove.ca . This is a valid email address, but CF9 CFMAIL is chocking on this and a other valid addresses that use the newer two character TLDs. If I try to send to that address, CFMAIL bombs and halts. If I wrap it in CFTRY with a CFCATCH to show me the failures, it's failing on several of the new TLDs. Does anyone know if there is a patch for this or something? This is almost certainly a problem with the SMTP server you're using, rather than CF. You can easily verify this sort of thing (and generally debug SMTP problems) by using a telnet session on your CF server to attempt to connect and send a message through your SMTP server. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352794 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL Problem with new TLDs
CF will try to send an email to any address you give it, even a complete nonsense address, it is the SMTP server that will reject it. I have never had any issues sending emails to 2 letter TLD's such as .co or .ca So you should firstly investigate DNS and SMTP issues On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: On CF9, cfmail seems to be having a problem sending email to some of the newer address, like som...@sprucegrove.ca . This is a valid email address, but CF9 CFMAIL is chocking on this and a other valid addresses that use the newer two character TLDs. If I try to send to that address, CFMAIL bombs and halts. If I wrap it in CFTRY with a CFCATCH to show me the failures, it's failing on several of the new TLDs. Does anyone know if there is a patch for this or something? Thanks Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352779 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL Problem with new TLDs
The .ca domain belongs to Canada and is 24 years old ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ca). I suspect your problem lies elsewhere. -Cameron On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com On CF9, cfmail seems to be having a problem sending email to some of the newer address, like som...@sprucegrove.ca . This is a valid email address, but CF9 CFMAIL is chocking on this and a other valid addresses that use the newer two character TLDs. If I try to send to that address, CFMAIL bombs and halts. If I wrap it in CFTRY with a CFCATCH to show me the failures, it's failing on several of the new TLDs. Does anyone know if there is a patch for this or something? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352780 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail settings
Try changing to: cfmail server=127.0.0.1 Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_williams -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:44 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfmail settings I have just upgraded to windows server 2008 CF9 My web email forms aren't working: in cfmail server=localhost in the coldfusion administrator the mail server is left blank used to work but isn't now. any ideas Your old server presumably had the IIS 6 SMTP server enabled. Your new one doesn't. You will need to enable that (and probably install it first - it's not a default component with IIS 7). Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352347 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail settings
And also be sure you've enabled the internal mail server in IIS. Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_williams -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:27 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: cfmail settings Try changing to: cfmail server=127.0.0.1 Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_williams -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:44 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfmail settings I have just upgraded to windows server 2008 CF9 My web email forms aren't working: in cfmail server=localhost in the coldfusion administrator the mail server is left blank used to work but isn't now. any ideas Your old server presumably had the IIS 6 SMTP server enabled. Your new one doesn't. You will need to enable that (and probably install it first - it's not a default component with IIS 7). Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352348 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail settings
I have just upgraded to windows server 2008 CF9 My web email forms aren't working: in cfmail server=localhost in the coldfusion administrator the mail server is left blank used to work but isn't now. any ideas Your old server presumably had the IIS 6 SMTP server enabled. Your new one doesn't. You will need to enable that (and probably install it first - it's not a default component with IIS 7). Also, make sure you set the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) service startup type to automatic; I installed SMTP on a 2008 R2 VPS a few months ago and discovered post-reboot about a week later (after emails stopped arriving) that the service wasn't set to automatic startup by default! Andy ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352362 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail settings
if your CFMAIL tags are specifying a SERVER then you do not need anything in the cfadmin. If they are not specifying a server thent hey will us ethe cfadmin settings, so you need to set them. I presume you do actually have a SMTP server setup and configured on localhost right ? On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Folks I have just upgraded to windows server 2008 CF9 My web email forms aren't working: in cfmail server=localhost in the coldfusion administrator the mail server is left blank used to work but isn't now. any ideas Thanks Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352337 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail settings
I have just upgraded to windows server 2008 CF9 My web email forms aren't working: in cfmail server=localhost in the coldfusion administrator the mail server is left blank used to work but isn't now. any ideas Your old server presumably had the IIS 6 SMTP server enabled. Your new one doesn't. You will need to enable that (and probably install it first - it's not a default component with IIS 7). Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352338 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail to Exchange using TLS
The encryption level is determined by the cert. You can generate any type of cert yourself and it will do the same job but it will not be trusted in a browser is not provided by a known ca. The encryption is done by the cert on the mailserver so nothing to install on cf side. Why type of cert did you generate? On May 23, 2012 6:41 PM, David Phelan phelan.dav...@gmail.com wrote: I am developing a solution for my company to be able to send email from our CF 8 application using TLS for security reasons and have a couple things that I would like to get clarified. I looked at the headers of the emails sent by my solution and I noticed that the transfer encoding was only 7 bit. The certificate that we are using on the development box is self signed so I am hoping that is the reason for the low encoding level, but I'm not sure. What I would like to clarify is the following: 1. Is the self signed certificate the reason for the encoding level? 2. Will a genuine certificate from a reputable source improve the encoding level? 3. Do I need to install a certificate somewhere in ColdFusion? 4. Is this a limitation of the CF 8 cfmail tag? 5. Is this something that needs to be addressed on the Exchange server? 6. Am I off the mark on this completely? I have no experience sending secured email from CF so any help or advice would be appreciated. TIA -- David Phelan ColdFusion/Flex Application Developer phelan.dav...@gmail.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351316 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail to Exchange using TLS
I am developing a solution for my company to be able to send email from our CF 8 application using TLS for security reasons and have a couple things that I would like to get clarified. I looked at the headers of the emails sent by my solution and I noticed that the transfer encoding was only 7 bit. The certificate that we are using on the development box is self signed so I am hoping that is the reason for the low encoding level, but I'm not sure. What I would like to clarify is the following: 1. Is the self signed certificate the reason for the encoding level? 2. Will a genuine certificate from a reputable source improve the encoding level? 3. Do I need to install a certificate somewhere in ColdFusion? 4. Is this a limitation of the CF 8 cfmail tag? 5. Is this something that needs to be addressed on the Exchange server? 6. Am I off the mark on this completely? I have no experience sending secured email from CF so any help or advice would be appreciated. I think the answer to (6) is yes. The certificate should have nothing to do with the actual content of the email, and is just used to establish an encrypted connection. That said, if you're looking at the headers sent before the encrypted connection is established, you might not see anything beyond the standard 7-bit transfer encoding that SMTP supports. ESMTP and 8-bit MIME are required for more complex transfer encodings. I suspect you don't really get to see that information before the encrypted connection is established. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, o ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351317 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail issue
Most of the time when I've used CFMail and Gmail I've had to use TLS and SSL. Try adding this: port=465 useSSL=true useTLS=true On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Jude Blacklaw judeblack...@gmail.comwrote: I am having an issue with cfmail. I sent regular emails like this cfmail from=b...@bobsdomain.com to=custo...@theirdomain.com server= smtp.gmail.com username=usern...@domain.com password=password subject=whatever And most of the time they work fine. But when legitimate emails end up in the undelivered folder, I have to move it back into the spool, but they will then fail every time with a useless error. I have googled this and discovered that this is because CF doesn't have the username/password any more so the authentication against the SMTP server thus fails. I have checked this and it is true, CF is not sending the username/password when emails are respooled. So how on earth how you meant to respool failed emails ? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347961 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail issue
I should add that this may not do anything to fix your problem of respooling, however it may minimize the failures in the first place. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: Most of the time when I've used CFMail and Gmail I've had to use TLS and SSL. Try adding this: port=465 useSSL=true useTLS=true On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Jude Blacklaw judeblack...@gmail.comwrote: I am having an issue with cfmail. I sent regular emails like this cfmail from=b...@bobsdomain.com to=custo...@theirdomain.com server= smtp.gmail.com username=usern...@domain.com password=password subject=whatever And most of the time they work fine. But when legitimate emails end up in the undelivered folder, I have to move it back into the spool, but they will then fail every time with a useless error. I have googled this and discovered that this is because CF doesn't have the username/password any more so the authentication against the SMTP server thus fails. I have checked this and it is true, CF is not sending the username/password when emails are respooled. So how on earth how you meant to respool failed emails ? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail issue
thanks Michael, but I am already doing that with gmail, it is in fact required to use TLS. But this issue is not specific to gmail, the problem occurs with ANY SMTP server where you pass the auth details in the CFMAIL tag. It of course works fine if I specify the server and auth details in the cfadmin mail settings as these will be used for re-spooled emails as well, but alas I cannot do that as each customer/website needs to use their own outgoing SMTP server. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347963 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail issue
Can you write a scheduled task to pull the headers and body from the messages in the Undelivr folder and resend them? On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Jude Blacklaw judeblack...@gmail.comwrote: thanks Michael, but I am already doing that with gmail, it is in fact required to use TLS. But this issue is not specific to gmail, the problem occurs with ANY SMTP server where you pass the auth details in the CFMAIL tag. It of course works fine if I specify the server and auth details in the cfadmin mail settings as these will be used for re-spooled emails as well, but alas I cannot do that as each customer/website needs to use their own outgoing SMTP server. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347964 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail doesn't work for cferror tag
I think cferror may be limited as to what you can put in the error template, my memory is quite rusty but I think this is to avoid you causing an error in the error template. how about if you set error.cfm as the default error template in the cfadmin, does it work then ? I know this method has no restrictions and you can do whatever you like in the error template. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Nathan Chen nathan.c...@cu.edu wrote: Hi, In my application.cfm I have: cferror template=error.cfm type=exception exception=any In my error.cfm page I have some friendly text for end users and plus this: cfmail to=nathan.c...@cu.edu from=nathan.c...@cu.edu subject=CF Error Occurred: type=html Text for myself here. /cfmail I haven't even placed any #error.variable# insde the cfmail yet but the result is that error.cfm gets displayed but wouldn't send out email to me, and the mail.log on Admin doesn't record it. There is nothing in the mail spool folder either. If I take the above cfmail portion and place them in a separate cfm and run it, it does send out email. That means the connection between this CF server(CF 8) and my organization's mail server is ok. Can anyone tell me if there is a syntax error here? Nathan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346801 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail doesn't work for cferror tag
Russ, Thanks for taking time to reply. The only thing I see on Admin (under Settings) is Missing Template Handler and Side-wide Error Handler. I am not sure if this is the right place that you were referring to? Or were you talking about another area I don't know? Nathan -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:44 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfmail doesn't work for cferror tag I think cferror may be limited as to what you can put in the error template, my memory is quite rusty but I think this is to avoid you causing an error in the error template. how about if you set error.cfm as the default error template in the cfadmin, does it work then ? I know this method has no restrictions and you can do whatever you like in the error template. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Nathan Chen nathan.c...@cu.edu wrote: Hi, In my application.cfm I have: cferror template=error.cfm type=exception exception=any In my error.cfm page I have some friendly text for end users and plus this: cfmail to=nathan.c...@cu.edu from=nathan.c...@cu.edu subject=CF Error Occurred: type=html Text for myself here. /cfmail I haven't even placed any #error.variable# insde the cfmail yet but the result is that error.cfm gets displayed but wouldn't send out email to me, and the mail.log on Admin doesn't record it. There is nothing in the mail spool folder either. If I take the above cfmail portion and place them in a separate cfm and run it, it does send out email. That means the connection between this CF server(CF 8) and my organization's mail server is ok. Can anyone tell me if there is a syntax error here? Nathan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346804 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail doesn't work for cferror tag
yes that is correct, set the site wide error handler to error.cfm, the file must also exist in the default website that hosts the cfadmin ot it wont save. Russ On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Nathan Chen nathan.c...@cu.edu wrote: Russ, Thanks for taking time to reply. The only thing I see on Admin (under Settings) is Missing Template Handler and Side-wide Error Handler. I am not sure if this is the right place that you were referring to? Or were you talking about another area I don't know? Nathan -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:44 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfmail doesn't work for cferror tag I think cferror may be limited as to what you can put in the error template, my memory is quite rusty but I think this is to avoid you causing an error in the error template. how about if you set error.cfm as the default error template in the cfadmin, does it work then ? I know this method has no restrictions and you can do whatever you like in the error template. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Nathan Chen nathan.c...@cu.edu wrote: Hi, In my application.cfm I have: cferror template=error.cfm type=exception exception=any In my error.cfm page I have some friendly text for end users and plus this: cfmail to=nathan.c...@cu.edu from=nathan.c...@cu.edu subject=CF Error Occurred: type=html Text for myself here. /cfmail I haven't even placed any #error.variable# insde the cfmail yet but the result is that error.cfm gets displayed but wouldn't send out email to me, and the mail.log on Admin doesn't record it. There is nothing in the mail spool folder either. If I take the above cfmail portion and place them in a separate cfm and run it, it does send out email. That means the connection between this CF server(CF 8) and my organization's mail server is ok. Can anyone tell me if there is a syntax error here? Nathan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346807 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9
On 12/10/2010 9:04 AM, Rick Root wrote: [Error,scheduler-4,12/10/10,11:40:51,,Could not connect to SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421 and [Error,mailWorker-6,12/10/10,10:50:29,,Could not connect to SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421 Does the user that your ColdFusion run as have permissions to make connections to the mail server? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339983 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9
Smtp error 421 is the service is not available and the connection will be closed It is from the smtp server not ColdFusion, so you issue is the smtp server. Steve Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Rick Root rick.r...@gmail.com wrote: We've been having significantly more trouble getting CF to send mail to our MDaemon server ... after we upgraded to CF9, we started seeing a lot of these errors in the mail.log: [Error,scheduler-4,12/10/10,11:40:51,,Could not connect to SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421 and [Error,mailWorker-6,12/10/10,10:50:29,,Could not connect to SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421 (the only difference there is the thread that is logging the error I guess) However, the mail server is absolutely up and running and the vast majority of our mail IS going out. In the mail settings, we have Maintain connection.. checked ... the timeout is set to 60 seconds.. Would a connection timeout be reported as response 421? Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339984 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9
AH, so Could not connect to SMTP Server reported by coldfusion is not really correct because it DID connect to the SMTP server, it just couldn't send the message. Okay, makes sense. On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Steven Durette st...@durette.org wrote: Smtp error 421 is the service is not available and the connection will be closed It is from the smtp server not ColdFusion, so you issue is the smtp server. Steve Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Rick Root rick.r...@gmail.com wrote: We've been having significantly more trouble getting CF to send mail to our MDaemon server ... after we upgraded to CF9, we started seeing a lot of these errors in the mail.log: [Error,scheduler-4,12/10/10,11:40:51,,Could not connect to SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421 and [Error,mailWorker-6,12/10/10,10:50:29,,Could not connect to SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421 (the only difference there is the thread that is logging the error I guess) However, the mail server is absolutely up and running and the vast majority of our mail IS going out. In the mail settings, we have Maintain connection.. checked ... the timeout is set to 60 seconds.. Would a connection timeout be reported as response 421? Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339986 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9
Actually the CF error is correct. CF tried to connect to the smtp server and all it got back was error 421. So connection couldn't be made. Sent from my iPhone ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339988 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9
Found a setting in MDaemon that restricted the maximum concurrent incoming connections. Since CF was set to 30 threads and we have 3 isntances, and MDaemon set to only accept 50 incoming connections, that was PROBABLY causing the issue. Thanks all. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339989 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored
thanks everyone. I'll try it using my GApps account instead - I do have the site set up under it already so hopefulyl that'll work. Cheers Stefan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339423 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored
Hmm that didn't really work either (Google Apps). I've got site.com set up under my google Apps account as an authorised domain. However when I send mail via CF and specify the sender as i...@site.com it now shows as my primary Google Apps domain. So I guess unless I set up a standalone Apps account I won't be able to send mail this way. I'll probably have to use my own mailserver then? Regards, Stefan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339424 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored
Hmm that didn't really work either (Google Apps). I've got site.com set up under my google Apps account as an authorised domain. However when I send mail via CF and specify the sender as i...@site.com it now shows as my primary Google Apps domain. So I guess unless I set up a standalone Apps account I won't be able to send mail this way. I'll probably have to use my own mailserver then? Right, it's going to use your primary domain when you mail through Apps. You could set up an Apps domain just for this site, if you remove the domain alias from your Apps domain configuration. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339426 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored
I've configured mail in CF Admin using smtp.gmail.com with my personal GMail account details (username and password). Mail is being sent without problems. However users of one of the websites where I use the CFMAIL tag and a 'from' address of i...@site.com tell me that the email arrives as having been sent from me, using my GMail address. What am I missing? Shouldn't the 'from' in CFMail take priority? That's what I seem to remember always happened when I used my own SMTP server in the past. BTW I am not specifying server details or credentials in the CFMail tag itself, they are only specified in CFadmin. Rex nailed it - Gmail doesn't allow you to set this. As a workaround, you can set up a Google Apps domain for either the primary domain or a subdomain of site.com - presumably a subdomain, unless they're willing to migrate from their current mail system to Apps. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339419 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored
I believe this is a setting in gmail itself. There is a section in the settings called Send mail as: Sent with my Droid On Nov 19, 2010 2:14 PM, Stefan Richter ste...@flashcomguru.com wrote: Hi all, I've configured mail in CF Admin using smtp.gmail.com with my personal GMail account details (username and password). Mail is being sent without problems. However users of one of the websites where I use the CFMAIL tag and a 'from' address of i...@site.com tell me that the email arrives as having been sent from me, using my GMail address. What am I missing? Shouldn't the 'from' in CFMail take priority? That's what I seem to remember always happened when I used my own SMTP server in the past. BTW I am not specifying server details or credentials in the CFMail tag itself, they are only specified in CFadmin. Cheers Stefan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339403 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail 'from' seems to get ignored
Google's mail servers do not allow you to spoof the FROM email address. It will always come from the authenticated account. i.e. If I'm using google's mail servers, and login as thisper...@gmail.com, I cannot send from thatper...@gmail.com or anotherper...@site.com Stefan Richter wrote: Hi all, I've configured mail in CF Admin using smtp.gmail.com with my personal GMail account details (username and password). Mail is being sent without problems. However users of one of the websites where I use the CFMAIL tag and a 'from' address of i...@site.com tell me that the email arrives as having been sent from me, using my GMail address. What am I missing? Shouldn't the 'from' in CFMail take priority? That's what I seem to remember always happened when I used my own SMTP server in the past. BTW I am not specifying server details or credentials in the CFMail tag itself, they are only specified in CFadmin. Cheers Stefan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339404 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL Speed Issue
how do you generate the emails, is it a mailmerge from a database, in which case could it be the database query causing the problem ? On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having an odd issue with CFMAIL that comes and goes and Im not seeing a reason for it. Environment: 2 load balanced 64-bit windows 2003 servers with 8GB RAM and 2GHz Quad-core processors running CF8 I have a mailer process which processes 1000 messages at a time and alternates between the 2 web servers for relay (modifying the server attribute of the cfmail tag). Normally, this process can handle 1000 messages in under 15 seconds. From time to time (now being one of those times) it will take 3+ minutes to generate them. From what I can tell, the bottleneck is in the generating phase (where it actually creates the messages and drops them in the Spool directory). The background process which actually sends the email files off to the relay servers seems to be running normal. I've tried setting the spooler to the disk or to memory and the speed is the same (maybe slightly faster via the memory setting, but still takes several minutes to complete 1000 messages). I've got the following jvm settings: *java.args=-server -Xms3072m -Xmx5120m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch* Frankly I don't really know what some of that does but I know we are using up a crapload of memory which I assume would be a good thing. There's nothing else really running on these servers except IIS and CF8. I'm at a loss right now. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks! -Jake ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339107 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFMAIL Speed Issue
Do you use cfmail parameters for naming the server, user and password? I'm on HostMySite and I'm not forced to use these parameters but I've found it's at least 300x faster (a few seconds compared to 3-5 minutes) if I do. -Original Message- From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFMAIL Speed Issue I'm having an odd issue with CFMAIL that comes and goes and Im not seeing a reason for it. Environment: 2 load balanced 64-bit windows 2003 servers with 8GB RAM and 2GHz Quad-core processors running CF8 I have a mailer process which processes 1000 messages at a time and alternates between the 2 web servers for relay (modifying the server attribute of the cfmail tag). Normally, this process can handle 1000 messages in under 15 seconds. From time to time (now being one of those times) it will take 3+ minutes to generate them. From what I can tell, the bottleneck is in the generating phase (where it actually creates the messages and drops them in the Spool directory). The background process which actually sends the email files off to the relay servers seems to be running normal. I've tried setting the spooler to the disk or to memory and the speed is the same (maybe slightly faster via the memory setting, but still takes several minutes to complete 1000 messages). I've got the following jvm settings: *java.args=-server -Xms3072m -Xmx5120m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch* Frankly I don't really know what some of that does but I know we are using up a crapload of memory which I assume would be a good thing. There's nothing else really running on these servers except IIS and CF8. I'm at a loss right now. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks! -Jake ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339111 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFMAIL Speed Issue
That would imply an issue with the default SMTP server set in the cfadmin then, if you are specifying a different server in the cfmail tags to speed it up. -Original Message- From: Stephens, Larry V [mailto:steph...@indiana.edu] Sent: 11 November 2010 13:45 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFMAIL Speed Issue Do you use cfmail parameters for naming the server, user and password? I'm on HostMySite and I'm not forced to use these parameters but I've found it's at least 300x faster (a few seconds compared to 3-5 minutes) if I do. -Original Message- From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFMAIL Speed Issue I'm having an odd issue with CFMAIL that comes and goes and Im not seeing a reason for it. Environment: 2 load balanced 64-bit windows 2003 servers with 8GB RAM and 2GHz Quad-core processors running CF8 I have a mailer process which processes 1000 messages at a time and alternates between the 2 web servers for relay (modifying the server attribute of the cfmail tag). Normally, this process can handle 1000 messages in under 15 seconds. From time to time (now being one of those times) it will take 3+ minutes to generate them. From what I can tell, the bottleneck is in the generating phase (where it actually creates the messages and drops them in the Spool directory). The background process which actually sends the email files off to the relay servers seems to be running normal. I've tried setting the spooler to the disk or to memory and the speed is the same (maybe slightly faster via the memory setting, but still takes several minutes to complete 1000 messages). I've got the following jvm settings: *java.args=-server -Xms3072m -Xmx5120m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch* Frankly I don't really know what some of that does but I know we are using up a crapload of memory which I assume would be a good thing. There's nothing else really running on these servers except IIS and CF8. I'm at a loss right now. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks! -Jake ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339112 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL Speed Issue
IIS on the local box is what relays and no params are needed On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Stephens, Larry V steph...@indiana.eduwrote: Do you use cfmail parameters for naming the server, user and password? I'm on HostMySite and I'm not forced to use these parameters but I've found it's at least 300x faster (a few seconds compared to 3-5 minutes) if I do. -Original Message- From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFMAIL Speed Issue I'm having an odd issue with CFMAIL that comes and goes and Im not seeing a reason for it. Environment: 2 load balanced 64-bit windows 2003 servers with 8GB RAM and 2GHz Quad-core processors running CF8 I have a mailer process which processes 1000 messages at a time and alternates between the 2 web servers for relay (modifying the server attribute of the cfmail tag). Normally, this process can handle 1000 messages in under 15 seconds. From time to time (now being one of those times) it will take 3+ minutes to generate them. From what I can tell, the bottleneck is in the generating phase (where it actually creates the messages and drops them in the Spool directory). The background process which actually sends the email files off to the relay servers seems to be running normal. I've tried setting the spooler to the disk or to memory and the speed is the same (maybe slightly faster via the memory setting, but still takes several minutes to complete 1000 messages). I've got the following jvm settings: *java.args=-server -Xms3072m -Xmx5120m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch* Frankly I don't really know what some of that does but I know we are using up a crapload of memory which I assume would be a good thing. There's nothing else really running on these servers except IIS and CF8. I'm at a loss right now. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks! -Jake ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339113 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL Speed Issue
however, on one of the boxes there was a username/password set up in the mail section of cfadmin. I removed it and I'll see if that helps. Thanks for the suggestion. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote: IIS on the local box is what relays and no params are needed On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Stephens, Larry V steph...@indiana.eduwrote: Do you use cfmail parameters for naming the server, user and password? I'm on HostMySite and I'm not forced to use these parameters but I've found it's at least 300x faster (a few seconds compared to 3-5 minutes) if I do. -Original Message- From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFMAIL Speed Issue I'm having an odd issue with CFMAIL that comes and goes and Im not seeing a reason for it. Environment: 2 load balanced 64-bit windows 2003 servers with 8GB RAM and 2GHz Quad-core processors running CF8 I have a mailer process which processes 1000 messages at a time and alternates between the 2 web servers for relay (modifying the server attribute of the cfmail tag). Normally, this process can handle 1000 messages in under 15 seconds. From time to time (now being one of those times) it will take 3+ minutes to generate them. From what I can tell, the bottleneck is in the generating phase (where it actually creates the messages and drops them in the Spool directory). The background process which actually sends the email files off to the relay servers seems to be running normal. I've tried setting the spooler to the disk or to memory and the speed is the same (maybe slightly faster via the memory setting, but still takes several minutes to complete 1000 messages). I've got the following jvm settings: *java.args=-server -Xms3072m -Xmx5120m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch* Frankly I don't really know what some of that does but I know we are using up a crapload of memory which I assume would be a good thing. There's nothing else really running on these servers except IIS and CF8. I'm at a loss right now. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks! -Jake ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339114 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Send Problem
Experiencing the same issue (blank message body) this past week (as of 11/09/10) as described in this post of 11/12/2003. No changes to the template(s) calling CFMail - just started sending blank message bodies. Spam score says negative 1 (-1) where a score of 3 or more is spam, so that's not it. CF says it left the building fine. Records in db say there was indeed message content. Thankfully only happening on our test system (in office), not in production (co-lo). Anyone figure this out? Was it an ISP/content filtering issue? Thanks, Sean stack: CFMX6.1 (j2sdk1.4.2_11), SQL2K Std, Win2K3 Std R2 SP2. ... weird problem occurring with an email send out using CFMail 6.1 from a SQL2000 db. Seems that SOME recipients of the message get a blank/empty message body (subject line, to and from fields are OK). ... doesn't seem to be email client specific Thanks, Mark ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339011 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Send Problem
This might have sommething to do with sending multipart MIME messages. Perhaps one person's client is set to only display plain text and the message does not contain that part. Sent from my Droid On Nov 9, 2010 12:23 PM, Sean Henderson shender...@followup.net wrote: Experiencing the same issue (blank message body) this past week (as of 11/09/10) as described in this post of 11/12/2003. No changes to the template(s) calling CFMail - just started sending blank message bodies. Spam score says negative 1 (-1) where a score of 3 or more is spam, so that's not it. CF says it left the building fine. Records in db say there was indeed message content. Thankfully only happening on our test system (in office), not in production (co-lo). Anyone figure this out? Was it an ISP/content filtering issue? Thanks, Sean stack: CFMX6.1 (j2sdk1.4.2_11), SQL2K Std, Win2K3 Std R2 SP2. ... weird problem occurring with an email send out using CFMail 6.1 from a SQL2000 db. Seems that SOME recipients of the message get a blank/empty message body (subject line, to and from fields are OK). ... doesn't seem to be email client specific Thanks, Mark ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339013 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMail Send Problem
What he said - the message body may look blank, but view the raw source of the received email to see what is really there. There could be an encoding issue. Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Jake Churchill wrote: This might have sommething to do with sending multipart MIME messages. Perhaps one person's client is set to only display plain text and the message does not contain that part. Sent from my Droid On Nov 9, 2010 12:23 PM, Sean Henderson shender...@followup.net wrote: Experiencing the same issue (blank message body) this past week (as of 11/09/10) as described in this post of 11/12/2003. No changes to the template(s) calling CFMail - just started sending blank message bodies. Spam score says negative 1 (-1) where a score of 3 or more is spam, so that's not it. CF says it left the building fine. Records in db say there was indeed message content. Thankfully only happening on our test system (in office), not in production (co-lo). Anyone figure this out? Was it an ISP/content filtering issue? Thanks, Sean stack: CFMX6.1 (j2sdk1.4.2_11), SQL2K Std, Win2K3 Std R2 SP2. ... weird problem occurring with an email send out using CFMail 6.1 from a SQL2000 db. Seems that SOME recipients of the message get a blank/empty message body (subject line, to and from fields are OK). ... doesn't seem to be email client specific Thanks, Mark ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339015 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail and Groupwise-SMTP
in the mail settings you need to set *Error Log Severity to warning or error I believe Russ * On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Thomas Stichnoth i...@stichnoth.net wrote: Hello, curious: Im using a Groupwise-SMTP-Server with CF8. Delivery of Mails is working. But, when I try to send mail with an illegal recipient, I get no error in the Coldfusion-Logs (debug=yes), Status 250 OK. If I try the same via Telnet, I get the an error (550) Any Idea? Kind regards Thomas Viele Grüße Thomas Stichnoth Thomas Stichnoth Internetkonzepte und -lösungen stichnoth.net Rühmkorffstr. 18 30163 Hannover http://www.stichnoth.net Tel. 0511 / 7601528 Fax 0511 / 7601530 Priv. 0511 / 2137769 Mobil 0175 / 1768800 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336845 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL isn't working at all
On Tuesday 06 Jul 2010 14:15:10 you wrote: What happens if you log in as the same user that CF is running as (cfusion), and attempt to send mail to sendmail via telnet? Or use a packet monitor like tethereal to see what is going on at the network level on the SMTP port. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to evangelistically implement patterns as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.co ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335141 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL isn't working at all
I find CFMAIL issues amongst the most difficult to debug, because you get such vague or even non-existent indications of problems.Often the only indication you get that your CFMAIL is wrong, is you dont receive any email. [A] I would check that you have all the required settings for your mail server. For example, in our system, the username is the full complete email address, not just the part to the left of the @. [B] Check that you have the server= attribute and the username= and password= correct in the CFMAIL tag. Our system blocks any mail coming from anywhere that doesnt have the correct authentication to prevent spammers exploiting our mail server. Yours may well be the same. Your support people at eworks.in will be able to tell you this. [C] check that you have no syntax errors in the message. If your message is built using coldfusion, and you have an error in your code there, you'll not get an error message, you'll just get nothing at all. I would verify that you can indeed send emails using CFMAIL by sending one with a very simple content like TEST to eliminate this as a possible culprit. [D] check that your isp doesnt block some ports. My isp (iinet.net.au) for example, blocks port 25 by default to help reduce hacking, but can be enabled if you need it (we do in order to pass mail through to the remote mail server). In this case, I think you're not making a connection to the server, but once you get through that obstacle, the others may well show themselves too. I think the most likely is [D] above. Hope this helps. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Sagar Gupta jupi...@eworks.in wrote: Hello everyone, I'm trying to send emails using the CFMAIL tag. I know how it is done and have tried every possible way to figure out why it isn't working. Coldfusion 9 64-bit is running on a CentOS 5.4 x64 box with Apache 64-bit installed. It is neither sending email through smtp.gmail.com (Google App account) nor with localhost (sendmail server.) I've tried following way so far: 1. Tried to verify my mail server connections (both to Gmail and sendmail) using the Coldfusion administrator, however, always get following error: Connection Verification Failed! 2. Enabled mail log and have set the log level to Debug. Still don't see any error in the mail.log file. It does keep updating with spool related information but no error or details about connection to the mail server. 3. I know correct port and SSL settings required to connect to the Gmail smtp server. 4. Coldfusion is running as user cfusion in developer mode. 5. This is a new installation on a fresh CentOS box at a client's site and I've tried reinstalling Coldfusion a couple of times already. 6. Coldfusion is connected properly with Apache version 2.2_15. 7. I tried sending email using sendmail using the command-line and it went through. 8. I also tried to send email using a PHP script and it works, however, I can't rely on it as it deliver email very slow and I need to fix my installation. 9. If I enter localhost in SMTP field, uncheck SSL and check Verify connection and hit the Submit button in the CF Administrator, it gives Connection Verification Failed! Error instantly. However, with Gmail, when the SSL and Verify connection is checked, and port is set to 465 it take a while (about 20-40 seconds) to give the message Connection Verification Failed! I'm passing correct login credentials each time. As I mentioned in the point above it does work from command-line and PHP work with same mail server settings and login credentials and same CentOS box/Apache installation. 10. IP, host name, trusted users, network config and Firewall all seems to be setup quite properly. Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong here? Where should I look in my server to get more details? Again, neither sendmail nor Gmail works. I've looked in server.log and mail.log. Not sure what's happening. Best, Sagar Gupta ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335091 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL isn't working at all
Doesn't CentOS come with a firewall enabled by default? That, and maybe IPTables? If your connection won't verify, I doubt that mail will ever go out. You may need to poke about CentOS to open ports to allow outbound to the google mail servers. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335094 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFMAIL isn't working at all
Check name resolution and FW on that CentOS server. Your error makes me think name resolution (are you using 127.0.0.1 for the sendmail server?) -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Sagar Gupta [mailto:jupi...@eworks.in] Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:20 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFMAIL isn't working at all Hello everyone, I'm trying to send emails using the CFMAIL tag. I know how it is done and have tried every possible way to figure out why it isn't working. Coldfusion 9 64-bit is running on a CentOS 5.4 x64 box with Apache 64-bit installed. It is neither sending email through smtp.gmail.com (Google App account) nor with localhost (sendmail server.) I've tried following way so far: 1. Tried to verify my mail server connections (both to Gmail and sendmail) using the Coldfusion administrator, however, always get following error: Connection Verification Failed! 2. Enabled mail log and have set the log level to Debug. Still don't see any error in the mail.log file. It does keep updating with spool related information but no error or details about connection to the mail server. 3. I know correct port and SSL settings required to connect to the Gmail smtp server. 4. Coldfusion is running as user cfusion in developer mode. 5. This is a new installation on a fresh CentOS box at a client's site and I've tried reinstalling Coldfusion a couple of times already. 6. Coldfusion is connected properly with Apache version 2.2_15. 7. I tried sending email using sendmail using the command-line and it went through. 8. I also tried to send email using a PHP script and it works, however, I can't rely on it as it deliver email very slow and I need to fix my installation. 9. If I enter localhost in SMTP field, uncheck SSL and check Verify connection and hit the Submit button in the CF Administrator, it gives Connection Verification Failed! Error instantly. However, with Gmail, when the SSL and Verify connection is checked, and port is set to 465 it take a while (about 20-40 seconds) to give the message Connection Verification Failed! I'm passing correct login credentials each time. As I mentioned in the point above it does work from command-line and PHP work with same mail server settings and login credentials and same CentOS box/Apache installation. 10. IP, host name, trusted users, network config and Firewall all seems to be setup quite properly. Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong here? Where should I look in my server to get more details? Again, neither sendmail nor Gmail works. I've looked in server.log and mail.log. Not sure what's happening. Best, Sagar Gupta ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335099 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFMAIL isn't working at all
I'm trying to send emails using the CFMAIL tag. I know how it is done and have tried every possible way to figure out why it isn't working. Coldfusion 9 64-bit is running on a CentOS 5.4 x64 box with Apache 64-bit installed. It is neither sending email through smtp.gmail.com (Google App account) nor with localhost (sendmail server.) I recommend that you focus on getting CF working with sendmail before you try using Google Apps, as that'll greatly simplify troubleshooting. 1. Tried to verify my mail server connections (both to Gmail and sendmail) using the Coldfusion administrator, however, always get following error: Connection Verification Failed! At this point, you might as well stop. If you get an error here, CF won't send mail. What happens if you log in as the same user that CF is running as (cfusion), and attempt to send mail to sendmail via telnet? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsi ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335100 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail
just add a cfif around the mail cfif qgetdetails.recordcount gt 0 cfmail. /cfmail /cfif Rob On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Damo Drumm damien.dr...@quinn-group.comwrote: Hi Ive the below code and im trying to get it to check first that the confirmation field in the comments table is equal to 1 before it send at the minute its sending anyway any tips Thanks cfquery name=qgetdetails datasource=#test# Select * From comments where confirmation = 1 /cfquery cfmail to=t...@123.com bcc=t...@123,t...@123 from=m...@test.com subject=Test Persons Name:#Name# Persons Email:#Email# Comments:#comments# /cfmail ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332979 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail
cfif qgetdetails.recordcount cfmail ... /cfif On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Damo Drumm damien.dr...@quinn-group.comwrote: Hi Ive the below code and im trying to get it to check first that the confirmation field in the comments table is equal to 1 before it send at the minute its sending anyway any tips Thanks cfquery name=qgetdetails datasource=#test# Select * From comments where confirmation = 1 /cfquery cfmail to=t...@123.com bcc=t...@123,t...@123 from=m...@test.com subject=Test Persons Name:#Name# Persons Email:#Email# Comments:#comments# /cfmail ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332978 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail
Try the code below. I added: cfif qgetdetails.recordcount gt 0 /cfif Rick cfquery name=qgetdetails datasource=#test# Select * From comments where confirmation = 1 /cfquery cfif qgetdetails.recordcount gt 0 cfmail to=t...@123.com bcc=t...@123,t...@123 from=m...@test.com subject=Test Persons Name:#Name# Persons Email:#Email# Comments:#comments# /cfmail /cfif -Original Message- From: Damo Drumm [mailto:damien.dr...@quinn-group.com] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:53 AM To: cf-talk Subject: cfmail Hi Ive the below code and im trying to get it to check first that the confirmation field in the comments table is equal to 1 before it send at the minute its sending anyway any tips Thanks cfquery name=qgetdetails datasource=#test# Select * From comments where confirmation = 1 /cfquery cfmail to=t...@123.com bcc=t...@123,t...@123 from=m...@test.com subject=Test Persons Name:#Name# Persons Email:#Email# Comments:#comments# /cfmail ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332980 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: cfmail
cfif qgetdetails.results gt 1 blah/cfif ? Rudimentary but would work Tiffany Trott Freelance CF Developer codedaw...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: Damo Drumm [mailto:damien.dr...@quinn-group.com] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:52 AM To: cf-talk Subject: cfmail Hi Ive the below code and im trying to get it to check first that the confirmation field in the comments table is equal to 1 before it send at the minute its sending anyway any tips Thanks cfquery name=qgetdetails datasource=#test# Select * From comments where confirmation = 1 /cfquery cfmail to=t...@123.com bcc=t...@123,t...@123 from=m...@test.com subject=Test Persons Name:#Name# Persons Email:#Email# Comments:#comments# /cfmail ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332981 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfmail with gmail - second question
According to http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=13287 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=13287 gmail requires either SSL or TLS to send email from a client I tried your code, but added the following and it worked: port=465 useSSL=true I haven't tried it, but if you want to use TLS instead of SSL, you can do port=587 useTLS=true TechInfo wrote: Did you try putting ALL the attributes into the attributeCollection? Even the port and useSSL ?? I just read that it is an all or nothing collection. Jevo Matthew Smith wrote: I posted earlier about using cfmail with google hosted mail. I was told it would require cf8. We ended up upgrading the account to cf8, but I still can't get it to work. Here is what I have. The page runs without error, I just don't ever receive the test mail: cfset mailAttributes = { server=smtp.gmail.com, username=webs...@website.com, password=password, from=webs...@website.com, to=rece...@gmail.com, subject=Eat my shorts } / cfmail port=465 useSSL=true attributeCollection=#mailAttributes# port 465, SSL enabled/cfmail cfmail port=587 useTLS=true attributeCollection=#mailAttributes# port 587, TLS enabled/cfmail cfmail port=465 useSSL=true useTLS=true attributeCollection=#mailAttributes# port 465, SSL and TLS enabled/cfmail ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:330253 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfmail with gmail - second question
Did you try putting ALL the attributes into the attributeCollection? Even the port and useSSL ?? I just read that it is an all or nothing collection. Jevo Matthew Smith wrote: I posted earlier about using cfmail with google hosted mail. I was told it would require cf8. We ended up upgrading the account to cf8, but I still can't get it to work. Here is what I have. The page runs without error, I just don't ever receive the test mail: cfset mailAttributes = { server=smtp.gmail.com, username=webs...@website.com, password=password, from=webs...@website.com, to=rece...@gmail.com, subject=Eat my shorts } / cfmail port=465 useSSL=true attributeCollection=#mailAttributes# port 465, SSL enabled/cfmail cfmail port=587 useTLS=true attributeCollection=#mailAttributes# port 587, TLS enabled/cfmail cfmail port=465 useSSL=true useTLS=true attributeCollection=#mailAttributes# port 465, SSL and TLS enabled/cfmail ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:330249 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfmail through google
To my knowledge there is no way to use cfmail with gmail on CF7. The appropriate hooks (TLS/SSL) were not added into cfmail until CF8. Thanks to everyone for the help. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329835 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfmail through google
To my knowledge there is no way to use cfmail with gmail on CF7. The appropriate hooks (TLS/SSL) were not added into cfmail until CF8. About the only way to do this as far as I can see is to use the javaMail packages from Sun to access GMail under CFMX 7. see http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/ I have some old code at home that did something similar. I'll see if I can dig it up and post it. hth, larry ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329838 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfmail through google
There's a cfjavamail tag for railo that should be easy to modify to work with CF7. http://trac.getrailo.org/railotags/wiki/CfJavaMail There is a folder with some mxunit tests that work for GMail a couple directories up in the repo (link to source is at the top of the wiki page). :den -- I do not know whether there are gods, but there ought to be. Diogenes ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329844 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4