RE: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts
2. AHP does the windows updates every weekend so you can count on a random restart on Saturday or Sunday. Most places do the Windows update once a month. 3. A few months ago a Windows Update caused our VPS to go up and down like a yo-yo and it took a couple days before they could get it straightened out. This is why I only ever host on Linux... Not that you shouldn't use Linux, but no one should be blindly applying Windows updates to production servers. The vast majority of Windows patches aren't even needed in a properly-configured production environment. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293753 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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I'm using AHP, too. Everything may not be instant and 24/7, but you can't be the price for cutting-edge hardware and good specs on the account at a price of $69.99 per month. I even checked into hostmysite recently for a VPS with CF8, but the least expensive was $120 per month and if you run over the 400 GB per month transfer for a few consecutive months, they force you to move to a dedicated server for at least $400 per month. With AHP, I can get a second VPS with 250 GB of transfer for another $70 per month and still on spend $20 month per month and hostmysite and have 500 GB per month transfer. Cost/Benefit... Rick -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts Does AHP have a generator system in place? I could not find anything about their infrastructure on their site. Yes, their servers are all colocated at Internap which is the same facility that houses Adobe, TimeWarner, and other large sites. Their generators can keep the servers up for at least 2 weeks before needing to be refueled. I'm surprised there's no information on their site about their infrastructure, but their website does indeed need an overhaul so will have to mention it so it can be included. Anyone wishing additional information can certainly request it by email. I just have had too many issues with my sites being down due to power outages in the past, including a fairly long one in the time I was with Vivio (4+ hours on a business day). With a previous host, the power company accidentally cut a power line near their location and my sites were all down for several days until it got resolved. My parents live in an area that never had a major power outage for 20+ years until a couple years ago when the entire area was without power for more than a week. So even if a host has had a previous good record of uptime, without generator backup it's basically just playing the lottery that such a disaster does not happen and take everything down. I'm glad to know they are working on this, as I had only minor nits otherwise with their service. ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293749 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts
On Nov 19, 2007 6:36 AM, John Blayter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. AHP does the windows updates every weekend so you can count on a random restart on Saturday or Sunday. Most places do the Windows update once a month. 3. A few months ago a Windows Update caused our VPS to go up and down like a yo-yo and it took a couple days before they could get it straightened out. This is why I only ever host on Linux... I was disappointed when HMS dropped Linux for shared hosting (recently) so now you have to go to the VPS offering but otherwise, I agree with Will about the great customer service at HMS. I am extremely happy with all the sites I have hosted with them - every one on Linux! -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293751 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts
-Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts 2. AHP does the windows updates every weekend so you can count on a random restart on Saturday or Sunday. Most places do the Windows update once a month. 3. A few months ago a Windows Update caused our VPS to go up and down like a yo-yo and it took a couple days before they could get it straightened out. This is why I only ever host on Linux... Not that you shouldn't use Linux, but no one should be blindly applying Windows updates to production servers. The vast majority of Windows patches aren't even needed in a properly-configured production environment. True dat. ;^) Also I won't personally host with a company that takes that much control out of your hands. YOU should determine how any software will affect your application and YOU should determine the best time to install it. A host should (I think) inform you of important updates and I would say it's reasonable to require those certain rare patches that might affect their network. But control should still be in your hands. Also I just have to say that Linux/Unix isn't a panacea for this. Better in some ways, no doubt, worse in others - in my experience the end result is a wash. (I spent many years working with Enterprise Windows Systems and the past several years working with Enterprise AIX systems.) In my experience downtime is about equal with both... and those WTF moments (or hours...) are universal. Although to be fair nearly every case that comes to mind the root cause was human error and of those left over pretty much all were vendor software issues. In short if you want to run a fully stable OS keep all people away from it and don't ever install anything. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293758 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts
Does AHP have a generator system in place? I could not find anything about their infrastructure on their site. Yes, their servers are all colocated at Internap which is the same facility that houses Adobe, TimeWarner, and other large sites. Their generators can keep the servers up for at least 2 weeks before needing to be refueled. I'm surprised there's no information on their site about their infrastructure, but their website does indeed need an overhaul so will have to mention it so it can be included. Anyone wishing additional information can certainly request it by email. I just have had too many issues with my sites being down due to power outages in the past, including a fairly long one in the time I was with Vivio (4+ hours on a business day). With a previous host, the power company accidentally cut a power line near their location and my sites were all down for several days until it got resolved. My parents live in an area that never had a major power outage for 20+ years until a couple years ago when the entire area was without power for more than a week. So even if a host has had a previous good record of uptime, without generator backup it's basically just playing the lottery that such a disaster does not happen and take everything down. I'm glad to know they are working on this, as I had only minor nits otherwise with their service. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293742 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Thanks for bringing this post to my attention. With regards to generator backup, we do realize that this is one of the chinks in our armor, and as you said, we are very much working toward implementing a solution for this. Generators are amazingly expensive and it will be difficult to implement, but we are working toward that. All of our servers, switches, and routers are on a distributed UPS system, which handles 99.9% of power problems that occur in our area, but even so, getting a generator system online is our current priority in improving our infrastructure. Does AHP have a generator system in place? I could not find anything about their infrastructure on their site. Regarding out of date software, I'm happy to report that this is something we've remedied. Any new VPS Account will now use CentOS 4 instead of CentOS 3 as it was previously. If you need something even more modern then what's included with CentOS 4, we'll be happy to work with you to get that installed. In some cases, we'll even perform the upgrade for you for free when we set up your VPS Account. Just ask us about it. We want you to succeed and if using bleeding edge software will help you do that, we're all for it. We continually strive to offer better services and improve our infrastructure, so it pays to check back from time to time to see how we've improved. ;) Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ BlueDragon Alliance Member Adobe Solution Partner Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: Same here. I use viviotech vps and they are great at responding to support tickets and keep on top of other support related issues that come up in their forums. I used them for a short time myself but dropped them due to the lack of proper infrastructure/generator backup. I understand they are working on getting that in place, but in the meantime, a long power outage means your site will be down. I also found their Linux VPS servers full of out-of-date software which meant a lot of extra work trying to get the latest stuff installed. I've had very good luck in the past with HMS for dedicated servers and I'd guess their VPS plans are equally good and often recommend them. Personally though, I'm on a tighter budget though than their prices allow so use AHP Hosting and have been fairly happy with them (him) so far. Being a one-person shop myself I am more accepting of not having 24/7 support, and have found the response fast and generally knowledgeable. He also gave me a discount code for my customers to use to get an even better price when they signup, a nice little incentive for those on the fence about moving to a VPS plan. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293656 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Same here. I use viviotech vps and they are great at responding to support tickets and keep on top of other support related issues that come up in their forums. I used them for a short time myself but dropped them due to the lack of proper infrastructure/generator backup. I understand they are working on getting that in place, but in the meantime, a long power outage means your site will be down. I also found their Linux VPS servers full of out-of-date software which meant a lot of extra work trying to get the latest stuff installed. I've had very good luck in the past with HMS for dedicated servers and I'd guess their VPS plans are equally good and often recommend them. Personally though, I'm on a tighter budget though than their prices allow so use AHP Hosting and have been fairly happy with them (him) so far. Being a one-person shop myself I am more accepting of not having 24/7 support, and have found the response fast and generally knowledgeable. He also gave me a discount code for my customers to use to get an even better price when they signup, a nice little incentive for those on the fence about moving to a VPS plan. ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293635 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Been using Viux for a while. Top-end VPS is a pretty good deal at 125 + 20 before add-ons. http://hosting.viux.com/services/virtual/virtual-extreme-windows.asp Dedicated starts at 245 + 20. Mik At 10:34 PM 11/18/2007, John Blayter wrote: I am looking for a good VPS or Dedicated CF host. My budget is about $200 a month max. I have been having some serious issues with AHP hosting and I need to switch while I still can. Thanks for the recommendations! - John Michael Muller Admin, MontagueMA.net Website work (413) 863-0030 cell (413) 320-5336 skype: michaelBmuller http://www.MontagueMA.net Eschew Obfuscation ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293580 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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I'm a 4 yr CrystalTech customer, but I've become disappointed with them over the last year or so. I get some of the most entertaining responses from their support. I'd rather just ask James, Jim, or some of the other bright folks on the list, because I sure can't rely on CT. I needed something more stable for some projects. The disruptor talked me into hostmysite's VPS. I can honestly say these people have totally blown me away. I had forgotten what it's like to have good support. If you have a problem, shoot'em an email, and more than likely you'll get a quick response/solution. I've even had some problems configuring software I installed on the VPS. HMS Support logged in and made the changes for me. Completely above and beyond the call of duty. If I had emailed CT, I would've gotten, What is MySQL? This is makin' me gag to type it, but thanks to dave for the VPS recommendation. Will ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293582 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Here are some of the issues that I have had with AHP. 1. The base server that I was on crashed over the weekend and I think that our total downtime was 20+ hours before we were successfully moved to another server. 2. AHP does the windows updates every weekend so you can count on a random restart on Saturday or Sunday. Most places do the Windows update once a month. 3. A few months ago a Windows Update caused our VPS to go up and down like a yo-yo and it took a couple days before they could get it straightened out. 4. From what I can tell... its just one person @ AHP and thats it... Our projects are starting to get to the size that I need a true hosting company with technical staff on location 24x7. 5. They are in a good data center but I have had a couple of times where for some reason my request would die somewhere in their network before it got to my VPS. I ended up having to email the trace rt to the data center to have them fix it. HTH, John I am looking for a good VPS or Dedicated CF host. My budget is about $200 a month max. I have been having some serious issues with AHP hosting and I need to switch while I still can. CrystalTech.com has some amazing dedicated server packages for half that. Lots of free (and quality) software and extras. I've been using a dedicated server from them (an older, $89/month server) for several years and have nothing but good things to say about them. Jim Davis ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293584 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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I've been a Viviotech VPS and Dedicated server customer for some time now. I have no complaints. Yves On Nov 18, 2007 11:34 PM, John Blayter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for a good VPS or Dedicated CF host. My budget is about $200 a month max. I have been having some serious issues with AHP hosting and I need to switch while I still can. Thanks for the recommendations! - John ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293585 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts
-Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts I'm a 4 yr CrystalTech customer, but I've become disappointed with them over the last year or so. I get some of the most entertaining responses from their support. I'd rather just ask James, Jim, or some of the other bright folks on the list, because I sure can't rely on CT. Not for nothing (and I'm a very happy CT customer) but you won't get good service from CT on questions dealing with (most) software. They don't want to support it. ;^) They will (for a HUGE fee) but that fee represents their unwillingness to get into your specific configuration. If you consider them only network and hardware (plug and chug) support you'll have a much better experience. Nearly every complaint I've seen about CT deals with support for non-system software (CF, IIS, Apache, etc). Again, they will do that, but they just don't want to and their prices and attitudes reflect that. To be fair they don't actually advertise this as a feature of their service. Of course I've had my box, with no fundamental configuration changes, for over three years. I may be in a nicely isolated rut. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293590 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Not for nothing (and I'm a very happy CT customer) but you won't get good service from CT on questions dealing with (most) software. They don't want to support it. ;^) You're exactly right. Just like when my CF mappings magically disappeared multiple times after I created them. I emailed support and they replied, the cleaners must've deleted them I'm like, O k! Hey, it just broke my e-comm site when it happened, no big deal. ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293592 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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On Nov 19, 2007 9:50 AM, Yves Arsenault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been a Viviotech VPS and Dedicated server customer for some time now. I have no complaints. Yves Same here. I use viviotech vps and they are great at responding to support tickets and keep on top of other support related issues that come up in their forums. ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293594 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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The cleaners? WTF is that? Mik At 03:27 PM 11/19/2007, Will Tomlinson wrote: Not for nothing (and I'm a very happy CT customer) but you won't get good service from CT on questions dealing with (most) software. They don't want to support it. ;^) You're exactly right. Just like when my CF mappings magically disappeared multiple times after I created them. I emailed support and they replied, the cleaners must've deleted them I'm like, O k! Hey, it just broke my e-comm site when it happened, no big deal. Michael Muller Admin, MontagueMA.net Website work (413) 863-0030 cell (413) 320-5336 skype: michaelBmuller http://www.MontagueMA.net Eschew Obfuscation ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293596 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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The cleaners? WTF is that? Mik At 03:27 PM 11/19/2007, Will Tomlinson wrote: Not for nothing (and I'm a very happy CT customer) but you won't get good service from CT on questions dealing with (most) software. They don't want to support it. ;^) You're exactly right. Just like when my CF mappings magically disappeared multiple times after I created them. I emailed support and they replied, the cleaners must've deleted them I'm like, O k! Hey, it just broke my e-comm site when it happened, no big deal. Michael Muller Admin, MontagueMA.net Website work (413) 863-0030 cell (413) 320-5336 skype: michaelBmuller http://www.MontagueMA.net Eschew Obfuscation ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293595 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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The cleaners? WTF is that? Heck, *YOU* tell ME! I have no idea... ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293598 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts
-Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts Not for nothing (and I'm a very happy CT customer) but you won't get good service from CT on questions dealing with (most) software. They don't want to support it. ;^) You're exactly right. Just like when my CF mappings magically disappeared multiple times after I created them. I emailed support and they replied, the cleaners must've deleted them I'm like, O k! The Cleaners? Was this before or after you requested assistance? In my experience they run NOTHING on my server. (I wouldn't actually want them to help with most application problems since they know less than I do and are more likely to screw it up than help.) They don't even install system updates - the only exception that I can remember was the system patch to prevent Code Red since it had a broader network impact. When they did they sent emails before and after. Other than that (when an unpatched machine can compromise the network) you're totally on your own (in my experience). Jim Davis ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293600 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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You know Guy with a mop and a broom dusting in the server room, taking out the trash, fiddling with Coldfusion mappings... Same old story :) -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts The cleaners? WTF is that? Heck, *YOU* tell ME! I have no idea... ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293603 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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You know Guy with a mop and a broom dusting in the server room, taking out the trash, fiddling with Coldfusion mappings... Same old story :) I figured it was this guy: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm606/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293605 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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thanks for sharing the info! they definitely look less like a viable option for me now, despite the good price all... --- Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293606 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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I am looking for a good VPS or Dedicated CF host. My budget is about $200 a month max. I have been having some serious issues with AHP hosting and I need to switch while I still can. Thanks for the recommendations! - John ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293569 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts
You can save a lot of that $200 with Viviotech for a VPS. You can get a decent dedicated server from them for around that price. On Nov 19, 2007 12:34 PM, John Blayter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for a good VPS or Dedicated CF host. My budget is about $200 a month max. I have been having some serious issues with AHP hosting and I need to switch while I still can. Thanks for the recommendations! -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293570 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts
care to share what sort of problems you are having? i am considering their cf8 vps hosting for the next big project, and would like to know what to look out for... so far they seemed like a very good option... tia --- Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293571 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts
-Original Message- From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts I am looking for a good VPS or Dedicated CF host. My budget is about $200 a month max. I have been having some serious issues with AHP hosting and I need to switch while I still can. CrystalTech.com has some amazing dedicated server packages for half that. Lots of free (and quality) software and extras. I've been using a dedicated server from them (an older, $89/month server) for several years and have nothing but good things to say about them. Jim Davis ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293572 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: VPS or Dedicated CF Hosts
Do you have your own cfm license? That will play some part in the decision. I have had 3 vps server and they were ok, certainly better than shared but just recently moved to a big dedicated box and there is just no comparison IMO. But then again I got a pretty good setup and its more that 3x what you want to pay monthly but it's definitely worth it. (hms) I see Jim has recommended a ct, personally I think they are a bunch of idiots over there. A friend of mine has a ded box there and it's a nightmare. As a quick example, he had me write him some cf code and he put it on there but couldnt get it to run because he put it outside the webroot and didnt know how to make virtual mapping. He called ct tech support and they said they could do it and charged him $175 to do it but then called back and said they would need to re-install cfm to get it right and they would charge his cc $460 more to do that. I told him to call HMS and tell them what the deal is and ask if they would help him and of course they did and 3 minutes later he was good to go even though he wasnt a hms clients. Anyways, I would say it's just like a shared server.. you get what you pay for. You can get the bigger cfm vps at hms for around $189. maybe Wilber will pitch in as he just switched from ct to one of those at hms. I am looking for a good VPS or Dedicated CF host. My budget is about $200 a month max. I have been having some serious issues with AHP hosting and I need to switch while I still can. Thanks for the recommendations! - John ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293573 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
