DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

2005-03-29 Thread Doug Strickland
Hello.
I am having many problems in my attempts to integrate Dreamweaver MX and MS 
Visual Source Safe.
Here's what's currently happening...

Background: There are a few of us developing an application. We have been 
instructed to develop and test on our local machines...We have a source safe db 
already created, and need to be able to check our cf code in and out from VSS.
Once the files are ready to move to the 'build' machine, we check them into 
source safe, and they will be deployed to the server (probably using VSS Shadow 
folders).

I created all that I needed in VSS, to include setting up a 'Working Folder'. 
The VSS is located on another box (in the same domain).
Next, I opened up Dreamweaver (which is running on my local machine), and 
created a 'New Site'. 
I set up my 'Local Site' (under 'Local Info') to read from the folder I set up 
in VSS as my 'Working Folder'. Next, my 'Remote Site'(under 'Remote Info') is 
set up with the 'Access' option set to SourceSafe Database (version: 1.02), and 
I also set the proper settings under the 'Settings' tab. Also, I have checked 
the two check boxes (one that states: 'Automatically upload files to server on 
save’ and the other which states: 'Check out files when opening'). Lastly, my 
Testing Server is set up to place files on my local box. From here I can view 
the application through my local box (I have CF and IIS installed on my box).

Ok, so here's what I run into...

I double click on a file from the 'Files' window, while under the 'Local View', 
make some changes, save the file, and close it. While the file was open, the 
file did not show as 'checked out' in VSS (even if I rt-clicked the file and 
said check out, it still does not appear to be checked out in VSS). The changes 
I made to the file now appear under the Local View, and the Testing Server 
view. However, they do not appear under the Remote view. So I right-click on 
the file in the 'File' window while in 'Local View', and select 
'Synchronize...', this says that it will update the 'Remote Folder', however, 
it comes and tells me that synchronization is not necessary. If I select the 
file I edited/saved in the 'File' window, and 'Put' it, that does not put it 
into the remote site either.

Now, if I switch to the 'Remote View' under the 'File' window, and dbl-click a 
file, it will open the file, and check it out from VSS as well 
(automatically)...I can check in from here as well. I just can not get any of 
the changes I made to this 'remote view'.

Any information would be greatly appreciated. I am open to anything.
Also, I had found this yesterday, but don't know how involved this solution 
would be...or if it is the only solution... hopefully not :)
Or maybe I need to get 'Contribute'.

Thanks!
-Doug

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Re: DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

2005-03-29 Thread Doug Strickland
I forgot to paste the link to what I found yesterday :)
here it is: 
http://www.macromedia.com/support/dreamweaver/downloads/scheaderfile.html

 Also, I had found this yesterday, but don't know how involved this 
 solution would be...or if it is the only solution... hopefully not :)
 Or maybe I need to get 'Contribute'.

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RE: DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

2005-03-29 Thread Ian Skinner
I didn't quite follow all your original post, but it seems a bit different then 
what I have set up.  Here is what I have set up that seems to work (though we 
haven't quite officially started using this yet).

VSS set up on Remote machine.

Dreamweaver setup:
Local - points to file server mapped drive (u://websites/) that is backed up 
every night.
Testing - points to local web root (c://websites/) that is configured to run CF 
on development machine.
Remote - points to VSS data repository.

Thus when I check out files from the remote directory to the local, they are 
locked in VSS and unlocked on my machine.  I can then develop and test locally 
as long as I need to by moving files between the local and testing directories. 
 Once I am satisfied that I have a new working files, I check the files back 
into the VSS.  All this can be done inside of DW.

The VSS repository has also been set up with a publish directory.  So when we 
have a new version of an entire application, I can open the VSS client, and 
publish the files from the repository to our Development/Staging server for 
final verification before moving to production.

All this seems to be working well in our testing.  Once we are done with some 
server building and restructuring then we plan to start using this process in 
all our web development.


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-Original Message-
From: Doug Strickland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

I forgot to paste the link to what I found yesterday :)
here it is:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/dreamweaver/downloads/scheaderfile.html

 Also, I had found this yesterday, but don't know how involved this
 solution would be...or if it is the only solution... hopefully not :)
 Or maybe I need to get 'Contribute'.



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Re: DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

2005-03-29 Thread Doug Strickland
Thanks Ian...
Sorry for my original post, I confused myself when I re-read it.
Your set-up sounds pretty much identical to mine.

I just had a couple questions from your reply, if that's ok...

Dreamweaver setup:
  Local - points to file server mapped drive (u://websites/) that is

Question:
Is this (u://websites/) the same directory that you set-up in VSS as your 
'Working Folder'? The reason I ask, is because this is the way mine is set-up.

 Thus when I check out files from the remote directory to the local, 
  they are locked in VSS and unlocked on my machine.

Question:
When you say that you check out files from the remote directory to the local, 
I was curious to know how you go about doing this(just to make sure I'm doing 
it correctly).
Here is how I am doing it:
While in DW, under the 'Files' Window, I switch to 'Remote View'...I then 
select the file that I want to check out, and commence to checking it out.
I then switch to my 'Local View', and when I dbl-click on the file I just 
checked out, it says it's read only, and that I can view it, or check it out. I 
just don't understand why I'm seeing this second check out prompt.
Thanks for your time.


V/R,
Doug


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RE: DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

2005-03-29 Thread Ian Skinner
Replies Inline. HTH

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-Original Message-
From: Doug Strickland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

Thanks Ian...
Sorry for my original post, I confused myself when I re-read it.
Your set-up sounds pretty much identical to mine.

I just had a couple questions from your reply, if that's ok...

Dreamweaver setup:
  Local - points to file server mapped drive (u://websites/) that is
Question:

Is this (u://websites/) the same directory that you set-up in VSS as your
'Working Folder'? The reason I ask, is because this is the way mine is
set-up.

No, I think that is the difference.  Only my Remote View is pointed to the 
VSS repository.  Here are my current settings for the Remote Info for the one 
site currently using VSS.
Access: SourceSafe Database
Settings...
Database Path: \\Prog-test01\Webprojects\srcsafe.ini
Project: $/CFprojects/cps (I believe this is the VSS working directory 
you speak of, but I'm not sure.)
Username: iskinner
Password: [empty]

 Thus when I check out files from the remote directory to the local,
  they are locked in VSS and unlocked on my machine.

Question:
When you say that you check out files from the remote directory to the
local, I was curious to know how you go about doing this(just to make
sure I'm doing it correctly).
Here is how I am doing it:
While in DW, under the 'Files' Window, I switch to 'Remote View'...I then
select the file that I want to check out, and commence to checking it
out.
I then switch to my 'Local View', and when I dbl-click on the file I just
checked out, it says it's read only, and that I can view it, or check it
out. I just don't understand why I'm seeing this second check out prompt.
Thanks for your time.

I just select the files I want and use the check-out/check-in arrows above the 
file panel in DW.  When I check-in I get a dialog box where I can provide the 
VSS note for the check-in.

V/R,
Doug

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Re: DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

2005-03-29 Thread Doug Strickland
Ian,

Yes that did help, thanks!
It's up and running correctly!
My Project path was wrong (i.e. Project: $/CFprojects/cps, under Remote View) 
...Once I corrected that everything went smoothly.

Also, I just wanted to let explain what I was talking about when referring to 
the Working Folder in my earlier post.

We have the same set-up as you, our VSS is on another server...
While in VSS, if you rt-click on your project, the second option down should be 
Set Working Folder...; from here you can traverse your local box and place 
the files that are in your project, locally on your box (wherever you specify). 
Then when you (in VSS) hit the SourceSafe tab (or Ctrl+G) it will put the 
'latest and greatest' in that local directory. And this local directory, is 
where I am pointing my DW 'Local Info' to, that way we are always working with 
the latest version from source safe.

Sorry to ramble on.
Thanks for the help!


V/R,
Doug

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RE: DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

2005-03-29 Thread Ian Skinner
Ok, I remember that, yes, my u drive folder is the VSS working folder.  And 
you can upload/download the files either with the VSS client or DW check-in/out 
tools between this folder and the SourceSafe repository.


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-Original Message-
From: Doug Strickland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

Ian,

Yes that did help, thanks!
It's up and running correctly!
My Project path was wrong (i.e. Project: $/CFprojects/cps, under Remote
View) ...Once I corrected that everything went smoothly.

Also, I just wanted to let explain what I was talking about when
referring to the Working Folder in my earlier post.

We have the same set-up as you, our VSS is on another server...
While in VSS, if you rt-click on your project, the second option down
should be Set Working Folder...; from here you can traverse your local
box and place the files that are in your project, locally on your box
(wherever you specify). Then when you (in VSS) hit the SourceSafe tab
(or Ctrl+G) it will put the 'latest and greatest' in that local
directory. And this local directory, is where I am pointing my DW 'Local
Info' to, that way we are always working with the latest version from
source safe.

Sorry to ramble on.
Thanks for the help!


V/R,
Doug



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Re: DreamweaverMX and MS Visual Source Safe Integration Help

2005-03-29 Thread Doug Strickland
And you can upload/download the files either with the VSS client or DW 
check-in/out tools between this folder and the SourceSafe repository.

I didn't realize that you could upload/download between the working folder 
and the SourceSafe repository with the DW check-in/out tools...I'll have to 
check that out, thanks.

-Doug

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OT: Visual Source Safe DEV/PROD Setup

2005-02-04 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
I want to do the following for our cf stuff and not sure about the last
step:

 

Setup a project in VSS.

Check files out to a test server, make changes there.

Check files in.

(Here is the part I don't know about) Make them automatically copy to
the live server

 

How do other people setup a dev/prod environment with VSS?

 

Thanks.

 

Kevin 

 



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Re: OT: Visual Source Safe DEV/PROD Setup

2005-02-04 Thread Robert Munn
I strongly recommend against automatic deployment to your production 
environment on check-in. You should really have three environments: dev, test, 
and prod. Build code in dev and check that it all works. Then you can check in 
your code in dev. Deploy from dev to test and check that it works. Then deploy 
to prod. 

How you deploy your code is up to you. We have CF Enterprise at my company and 
I use the Archive and Deploy features in the CF Admin for production 
deployments. The technology/method of deployment is secondary. The key is good 
process.

Kevin wrote:

Setup a project in VSS.

Check files out to a test server, make changes there.

Check files in.

(Here is the part I don't know about) Make them automatically copy to
the live server

 

How do other people setup a dev/prod environment with VSS?

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RE: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-26 Thread Kevin Roche
Hi,

Is the RDS service running?

I have a problem sometimes when I reboot that RDS does not start up as it
should. Forcing a start from the Services Control Panel fixes it.

I have no idea why, as it only happens very occasionally I have never taken
the time to investigate. I suspect that it is somthing to do with running
CF5 and CFMX on the same machine as it only happened after the CFMX install.

Kevin

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Sent: 26 January 2005 04:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 5 RDS  Visual Source Safe


have u tried setting an RDS password?

Doug

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:36:25 -0400, Rob Sherman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As a follow up, it may have nothing to do with VSS..  RDS just doesn't
work.  My co-worker has ColdFusion Studio 5 and can't connect via RDS either
and is prompted with the same error message Unable to Authenticate..  even
though the ColdFusion 5 server is set to not require a password for RDS.

 This is a windows 2k server, does anyone have any suggestions that would
relate to IIS to ensure RDS will work?

 - Rob

 We use this configuration regulary and it works fine for us so I
 reckon it must be your DWMX config.  Does RDS work through the
 browser?





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RE: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-26 Thread Martin Parry
Kevin..

RDS uses an HTTP port (80 as far as I'm aware) and routes itself through
IIS (This is proven when you stop the IIS site with CFIDE in it and RDS
stops working).

What you could try is setting up another IP address or domain name (e.g.
mxbox.myserver.com) and have IIS resolve it, but ONLY allow MX to
integrate with it by removing all CF5 application configuration (in
IIS). In homesite or whatever, connect to the new domain name rather
than the IP of the server. You'll also have to make a virtual directory
to the MX CFIDE folder too. It ight work.. It might not..
 
Does that make sense ?

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion 5 RDS  Visual Source Safe

Hi,

Is the RDS service running?

I have a problem sometimes when I reboot that RDS does not start up as
it
should. Forcing a start from the Services Control Panel fixes it.


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Re: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-26 Thread Rob Sherman
Hi Doug,  yes, I've tried setting an RDS password and still get the same 
results.

- Rob

have u tried setting an RDS password?

Doug

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RE: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-26 Thread Dave Merrill
RDS can use whatever port you define for the web site that serves it and in
the properties of each defined RDS server on the clients. That port does
need to be open in both directions between client and server. Can the
clients bring up a telnet connection to the server on that port? (That'd be
80 if you haven't changed it, maybe 8500 if you're using the built-in MX
server w its defaults.)

Dave Merrill


 RDS uses an HTTP port (80 as far as I'm aware) and routes itself through
 IIS (This is proven when you stop the IIS site with CFIDE in it and RDS
 stops working).

 What you could try is setting up another IP address or domain name (e.g.
 mxbox.myserver.com) and have IIS resolve it, but ONLY allow MX to
 integrate with it by removing all CF5 application configuration (in
 IIS). In homesite or whatever, connect to the new domain name rather
 than the IP of the server. You'll also have to make a virtual directory
 to the MX CFIDE folder too. It ight work.. It might not..

 Does that make sense ?

 Martin Parry
 Macromedia Certified Developer
 http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk



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Re: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-26 Thread Rob Sherman
Hi Kevin,
Yes the RDS service is running.  I've tried rebooting it and changing the log 
on roles and both with the same result.

-Rob


Hi,

Is the RDS service running?

I have a problem sometimes when I reboot that RDS does not start up as it
should. Forcing a start from the Services Control Panel fixes it.


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Re: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-26 Thread Rob Sherman
Hi Dave,
I have no problem accessing port 80 on the server, and the website set up in 
IIS is also using port 80 so there aren't any other limitations or deviations 
from that.

Here is something new I've discovered while going through this process of 
elimination.  I also have a staging server (next to it) with the same kind of 
install.  I have been able to successfully connect via RDS to the staging 
server.  The only difference that I can see between Dev and Staging is that at 
one point someone enabled Advanced Security on DEV and not on Staging.  Now 
Advanced Security was disabled on DEV recently - no configuration of any kind 
was set up but now the CFAdmin has the configuration menu on DEV and Staging 
does not.

- Rob

RDS can use whatever port you define for the web site that serves it and in
the properties of each defined RDS server on the clients. That port does
need to be open in both directions between client and server. Can the
clients bring up a telnet connection to the server on that port? (That'd be
80 if you haven't changed it, maybe 8500 if you're using the built-in MX
server w its defaults.)

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RE: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-25 Thread Calvin Ward
Assign a password in RDS and then see if that works through DWMX?

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Rob Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ColdFusion 5 RDS  Visual Source Safe 

Hi gang,
I've tried finding an answer to this and am stumped.  I have a ColdFusion 5
instal
(windows 2k server), no RDS password required in the admin.  Visual Source
Safe is
set up with workspace directories.  I'm using Dreamweaver MX 2004 for the
editor and
set up a site that uses Visual Source Safe Database as it's 'remote info'.
Database
path is a network share, Project is set up correctly, username is in there,
but we
use blank passwords (don't ask).

Here is the magical issue, I can never use RDS to do anything in DW2004 -
not even
open the database tab.  It prompts for username and password even though one
is not
enabled in the CF5 Admin.  No matter what combo I use, it always says it
can't
authenticate, more specifically Unable to authenticate on RDS server using
current
security information!.

We don't use sandbox security.  I also have no problem checking in/out
files,
modifying, etc.  It's just RDS that is whack..  any suggestions?

Sincerely,


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Re: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-25 Thread Rob Sherman
Hi Calvin,
Thanks for the suggestion.  It's been tried and with the same results.  I 
suspect it has something to do with the use of Visual Source Safe as the remote 
portion of the site settings.

- Rob

Assign a password in RDS and then see if that works through DWMX?

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Re: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-25 Thread Neil Middleton
We use this configuration regulary and it works fine for us so I
reckon it must be your DWMX config.  Does RDS work through the
browser?


On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:31:27 -0400, Rob Sherman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Calvin,
 Thanks for the suggestion.  It's been tried and with the same results.  I 
 suspect it has something to do with the use of Visual Source Safe as the 
 remote portion of the site settings.
 
 - Rob
 
 Assign a password in RDS and then see if that works through DWMX?
 
 - Calvin
 
 
 

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Re: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-25 Thread Rob Sherman
It could possibly be the DWMX config, but I'm not sure where to start in 
debugging that setup, afterall everything else works, just not RDS 
specifically.  When you say Does RDS work through the browser do you mean web 
browser?

-Rob


We use this configuration regulary and it works fine for us so I
reckon it must be your DWMX config.  Does RDS work through the
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Re: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-25 Thread Rob Sherman
As a follow up, it may have nothing to do with VSS..  RDS just doesn't work.  
My co-worker has ColdFusion Studio 5 and can't connect via RDS either and is 
prompted with the same error message Unable to Authenticate..  even though 
the ColdFusion 5 server is set to not require a password for RDS.

This is a windows 2k server, does anyone have any suggestions that would relate 
to IIS to ensure RDS will work?

- Rob

We use this configuration regulary and it works fine for us so I
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Re: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-25 Thread Douglas Knudsen
have u tried setting an RDS password?

Doug

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:36:25 -0400, Rob Sherman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As a follow up, it may have nothing to do with VSS..  RDS just doesn't work.  
 My co-worker has ColdFusion Studio 5 and can't connect via RDS either and is 
 prompted with the same error message Unable to Authenticate..  even though 
 the ColdFusion 5 server is set to not require a password for RDS.
 
 This is a windows 2k server, does anyone have any suggestions that would 
 relate to IIS to ensure RDS will work?
 
 - Rob
 
 We use this configuration regulary and it works fine for us so I
 reckon it must be your DWMX config.  Does RDS work through the
 browser?
 
 

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ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-24 Thread Rob Sherman
Hi gang,
I've tried finding an answer to this and am stumped.  I have a ColdFusion 5 
instal
(windows 2k server), no RDS password required in the admin.  Visual Source Safe 
is
set up with workspace directories.  I'm using Dreamweaver MX 2004 for the 
editor and
set up a site that uses Visual Source Safe Database as it's 'remote info'.  
Database
path is a network share, Project is set up correctly, username is in there, but 
we
use blank passwords (don't ask).

Here is the magical issue, I can never use RDS to do anything in DW2004 - not 
even
open the database tab.  It prompts for username and password even though one is 
not
enabled in the CF5 Admin.  No matter what combo I use, it always says it can't
authenticate, more specifically Unable to authenticate on RDS server using 
current
security information!.

We don't use sandbox security.  I also have no problem checking in/out files,
modifying, etc.  It's just RDS that is whack..  any suggestions?

Sincerely,


Rob Sherman

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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-11 Thread Stephenie Hamilton

Any way to get Homesite with VSS to auto check a file back in when you
save/close it? Or do you always have to manually check it in?

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Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Jeffry Houser

  I'm sure this (or similar issues) have come up before, but... I can't log 
into the archives (I have no idea what my username and password is), I 
can't register because it says I'm already registered, and when I click the 
go here if you forgot link nothing happens.  There is nothing in the CF 
FAQ (I looked) and I tried searching on Macromedia KB (all links are broken 
from the search) and on Google.

  With all that said, here is my query.

  How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?

  I came onto a project and they want to use VSS.  That's is all fine and 
dandy.  They provided me with a copy.  They already have the VSS database 
set up, which I am accessing via a mapped drive.
  The CF Studio documentation talks about setting up a project in CF Studio 
and then integrating it with VSS.  But, how do I take the VSS database and 
turn it into a CF Studio project?

  It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.  That 
doesn't do much good if I am accessing the file remotely via RDS.  Checking 
it back in will copy the unchanged version back up to the site.  That 
doesn't seem like the ideal situation.

  I think I'm probably missing something important with regards to Source 
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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Thomas Chiverton

   How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?

Very well, I've used it in the past.

   It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.  That
   I think I'm probably missing something important with regards to Source
 Control.

Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able to edit
it ?

I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project, and then
use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when ya
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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Jeffry Houser

At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?

Very well, I've used it in the past.

It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.  That
I think I'm probably missing something important with regards to Source
  Control.

Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able to edit
it ?

I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project, and then
use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when ya
done.

  It is all becoming clear (sort of)
  However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A, wouldn't I 
have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any effect?


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Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Patric Stumpe

Hi Jeffry,

when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on the
server. At least it should be.

Patric


JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?

Very well, I've used it in the past.

It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.  That
I think I'm probably missing something important with regards to Source
  Control.

Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able to edit
it ?

I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project, and then
use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when ya
done.

JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A, wouldn't I 
JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any effect?


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Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Jeffry Houser

  Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF Studio 
project with files over RDS, though.
  It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this morning, 
though.


At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Jeffry,

when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on the
server. At least it should be.

Patric


JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
 
 Very well, I've used it in the past.
 
 It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.  That
 I think I'm probably missing something important with regards to 
 Source
   Control.
 
 Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able to edit
 it ?
 
 I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project, and 
 then
 use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when ya
 done.

JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A, 
wouldn't I
JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any effect?


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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Lee Fuller

On a slightly different note..  Anyone have experience with Dreamweaver
MX and VSS?  Work as well as Studio/VSS?

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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Ken Wilson

I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are based on local or
mapped drives.

Ken



-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


  Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF Studio 
project with files over RDS, though.
  It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this morning, 
though.


At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Jeffry,

when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on the 
server. At least it should be.

Patric


JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
 
 Very well, I've used it in the past.
 
 It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.
That
 I think I'm probably missing something important with regards 
   to
 Source
   Control.
 
 Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able 
 to edit it ?
 
 I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project, 
 and
 then
 use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when

 ya done.

JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A,
wouldn't I
JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any 
JH effect?


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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Jeffry Houser

  That would be on par with what I'm seeing.

  So, I'm suppose to work on a remote server via RDS in conjunction with 
visual source safe, and it just ain't seeming possible.  Ain't life 
grand.  : chuckle:  I guess it is time for a local copy of some sort.

  Thanks all!

At 09:53 AM 10/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are based on local or
mapped drives.

Ken



-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


   Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF Studio
project with files over RDS, though.
   It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this morning,
though.


At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
 Hi Jeffry,
 
 when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on the
 server. At least it should be.
 
 Patric
 
 
 JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
  How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
  
  Very well, I've used it in the past.
  
  It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.
That
  I think I'm probably missing something important with regards
to
  Source
Control.
  
  Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able
  to edit it ?
  
  I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project,
  and
  then
  use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when

  ya done.
 
 JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
 JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A,
 wouldn't I
 JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any
 JH effect?
 
 
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 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-20JH 
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Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Patric Stumpe

Weel that's what I mean to recall too. Jeff said he had a mapped
drive, so it shouldn't be a problem. And VSS-Server allows to publish
a project (if needed) to an online server. I think it's a very good
solution for a concurrent users working with CFStudio. The only sad
thing is to connect to the VSS-Server via Internet. I tested
SourceOffSite, but that screwed (kind of) my checked in/out files with
where users with LAN-connection to the server worked also on the
project. Hrmm... Perhaps I'll try to get my VPN working sometime...

Patric



KW I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are based on local or
KW mapped drives.

KW Ken



KW -Original Message-
KW From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
KW Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
KW To: CF-Talk
KW Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


KW   Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF Studio 
KW project with files over RDS, though.
KW   It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this morning, 
KW though.


KW At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Jeffry,

when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on the 
server. At least it should be.

Patric


JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
 
 Very well, I've used it in the past.
 
 It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.
KW That
 I think I'm probably missing something important with regards 
   to
 Source
   Control.
 
 Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able 
 to edit it ?
 
 I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project, 
 and
 then
 use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when

 ya done.

JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A,
wouldn't I
JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any 
JH effect?


JH --
JH Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JH Need a Web Developer?  Contact me!
JH AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
JH --
JH My CFMX Book: 
JH http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-20
JH 
JH My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com
JH My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com

JH


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Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Jeffry Houser

At 04:05 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Weel that's what I mean to recall too. Jeff said he had a mapped
drive, so it shouldn't be a problem.

   I have a mapped drive to the VSS database.  But, only RDS or FTP access 
to the actual files I'm working on.
  : groans:
  Luckily, I think they are the same server.. so my username / password 
combo might work.
  Unluckily, the server seems down, so I can't test the theory.


And VSS-Server allows to publish
a project (if needed) to an online server. I think it's a very good
solution for a concurrent users working with CFStudio. The only sad
thing is to connect to the VSS-Server via Internet. I tested
SourceOffSite, but that screwed (kind of) my checked in/out files with
where users with LAN-connection to the server worked also on the
project. Hrmm... Perhaps I'll try to get my VPN working sometime...

Patric



KW I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are based on local or
KW mapped drives.

KW Ken



KW -Original Message-
KW From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
KW Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
KW To: CF-Talk
KW Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


KW   Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF Studio
KW project with files over RDS, though.
KW   It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this morning,
KW though.


KW At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
 Hi Jeffry,
 
 when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on the
 server. At least it should be.
 
 Patric
 
 
 JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
  How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
  
  Very well, I've used it in the past.
  
  It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.
KW That
  I think I'm probably missing something important with regards
to
  Source
Control.
  
  Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able
  to edit it ?
  
  I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project,
  and
  then
  use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when

  ya done.
 
 JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
 JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A,
 wouldn't I
 JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any
 JH effect?
 
 
 JH --
 JH Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 JH Need a Web Developer?  Contact me!
 JH AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
 JH --
 JH My CFMX Book:
 JH 
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-20JH 
 JH My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com
 JH My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com
 
 JH
 

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Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Patric Stumpe

Ahh, should have read your initial post more carefully. Sorry.

But wouldn't it be too easy if everthing would work instantly..? :)

Patric


JH At 04:05 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Weel that's what I mean to recall too. Jeff said he had a mapped
drive, so it shouldn't be a problem.

JHI have a mapped drive to the VSS database.  But, only RDS or FTP access 
JH to the actual files I'm working on.
JH   : groans:
JH   Luckily, I think they are the same server.. so my username / password 
JH combo might work.
JH   Unluckily, the server seems down, so I can't test the theory.


And VSS-Server allows to publish
a project (if needed) to an online server. I think it's a very good
solution for a concurrent users working with CFStudio. The only sad
thing is to connect to the VSS-Server via Internet. I tested
SourceOffSite, but that screwed (kind of) my checked in/out files with
where users with LAN-connection to the server worked also on the
project. Hrmm... Perhaps I'll try to get my VPN working sometime...

Patric



KW I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are based on local or
KW mapped drives.

KW Ken



KW -Original Message-
KW From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
KW Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
KW To: CF-Talk
KW Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


KW   Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF Studio
KW project with files over RDS, though.
KW   It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this morning,
KW though.


KW At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
 Hi Jeffry,
 
 when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on the
 server. At least it should be.
 
 Patric
 
 
 JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
  How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
  
  Very well, I've used it in the past.
  
  It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.
KW That
  I think I'm probably missing something important with regards
to
  Source
Control.
  
  Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able
  to edit it ?
  
  I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project,
  and
  then
  use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when

  ya done.
 
 JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
 JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A,
 wouldn't I
 JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any
 JH effect?
 
 
 JH --
 JH Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 JH Need a Web Developer?  Contact me!
 JH AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
 JH --
 JH My CFMX Book:
 JH 
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-20JH 
 JH My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com
 JH My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com
 
 JH
 

KW

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OT: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

This is OT but I'm wondering if anyone in the JEdit community has heard
anything about a source/version control plugin? I'm less concerned about
versioning and the like, but it'd be nice to have access to a simple
checkout/checkin service to prevent simultaneous overwrites, and/or a
document comparison tool.


 Weel that's what I mean to recall too. Jeff said he had a mapped
 drive, so it shouldn't be a problem. And VSS-Server allows to publish
 a project (if needed) to an online server. I think it's a very good
 solution for a concurrent users working with CFStudio. The only sad
 thing is to connect to the VSS-Server via Internet. I tested
 SourceOffSite, but that screwed (kind of) my checked in/out files with
 where users with LAN-connection to the server worked also on the
 project. Hrmm... Perhaps I'll try to get my VPN working sometime...

 Patric



 KW I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are based on local or
 KW mapped drives.

 KW Ken



 KW -Original Message-
 KW From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 KW Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
 KW To: CF-Talk
 KW Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


 KW   Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF Studio
 KW project with files over RDS, though.
 KW   It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this
 morning,
 KW though.


 KW At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Jeffry,

when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on the
server. At least it should be.

Patric


JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
 
 Very well, I've used it in the past.
 
 It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.
 KW That
 I think I'm probably missing something important with regards
   to
 Source
   Control.
 
 Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able
 to edit it ?
 
 I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project,
 and
 then
 use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when

 ya done.

JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A,
wouldn't I
JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any
JH effect?


JH --
JH Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JH Need a Web Developer?  Contact me!
JH AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
JH --
JH My CFMX Book:
JH http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-20
JH 
JH My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com
JH My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com

JH


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Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Jeffry Houser

At 04:34 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Ahh, should have read your initial post more carefully. Sorry.

  Not a problem.


But wouldn't it be too easy if everthing would work instantly..? :)

  Yep.. way too easy.


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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Costas Piliotis

Just to add my pennies here, you have a setting in VSS - your working
folder where the file is extracted to for changes.  You can leave it as the
same location the actual file is, and then you can edit (and test) in its
proper location.  There's no harm, because you can always roll back your
changes.

VSS integrates with studio really nicely, but I find it takes FOREVER to
load a project, so I actually check out my files through the VSS gui and
then edit them in CFStudio.  That way I don't have to wait 10 minutes for
the damn project to load my list of files...

Good luck.  I like the way VSS works with cfStudio.  PVCS works really
nicely with it too...

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


   How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?

Very well, I've used it in the past.

   It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.  That
   I think I'm probably missing something important with regards to 
 Source Control.

Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able to edit
it ?

I think the way round it is to check things out to a local project, and then
use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server when ya
done.

Tom Chiverton
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion





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RE: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Joshua Miller

Jedit supports MS Visual Source Safe using the SourceControl plugin and
CVS using the JEditCVS plugin. Both can be had using the built-in plugin
installed (Plugins  Plugin Manager  Install Plugins) or from
http://plugins.jedit.org

Thanks,

Joshua Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF
Studio


This is OT but I'm wondering if anyone in the JEdit community has heard
anything about a source/version control plugin? I'm less concerned about
versioning and the like, but it'd be nice to have access to a simple
checkout/checkin service to prevent simultaneous overwrites, and/or a
document comparison tool.


 Weel that's what I mean to recall too. Jeff said he had a mapped 
 drive, so it shouldn't be a problem. And VSS-Server allows to publish 
 a project (if needed) to an online server. I think it's a very good 
 solution for a concurrent users working with CFStudio. The only sad 
 thing is to connect to the VSS-Server via Internet. I tested 
 SourceOffSite, but that screwed (kind of) my checked in/out files with

 where users with LAN-connection to the server worked also on the 
 project. Hrmm... Perhaps I'll try to get my VPN working sometime...

 Patric



 KW I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are based on local

 KW or mapped drives.

 KW Ken



 KW -Original Message-
 KW From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 KW Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
 KW To: CF-Talk
 KW Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


 KW   Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF 
 KW Studio project with files over RDS, though.
 KW   It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this
 morning,
 KW though.


 KW At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Jeffry,

when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on 
the server. At least it should be.

Patric


JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
 
 Very well, I've used it in the past.
 
 It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.
 KW That
 I think I'm probably missing something important with regards

   to
 Source
   Control.
 
 Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able

 to edit it ?
 
 I think the way round it is to check things out to a local 
 project, and
 then
 use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server 
 when

 ya done.

JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A,
wouldn't I
JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any 
JH effect?


JH --
JH Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JH Need a Web Developer?  Contact me!
JH AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
JH --
JH My CFMX Book: 
JH http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-
JH 20
JH 
JH My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com
JH My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com

JH


 KW
 

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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Fitch, Tyler

Hi Lee,

I've found VSS with DWMX to be way, way, way better than any usage of
projects in studio ever was.

The VSS integration is one of the main reasons I switched early on.

Cheers,

t

**
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http://isitedesign.com
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-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


On a slightly different note..  Anyone have experience with Dreamweaver
MX and VSS?  Work as well as Studio/VSS?


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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Ken Wilson

Any idea if Dreamweaver supports the SCC API  that would allow use of
other types of Source Control? Or did they intentionally tie it
exclusively to the MS product for some reason?

Ken



-Original Message-
From: Fitch, Tyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


Hi Lee,

I've found VSS with DWMX to be way, way, way better than any usage of
projects in studio ever was.

The VSS integration is one of the main reasons I switched early on.

Cheers,

t

**
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Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer http://isitedesign.com
**

-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


On a slightly different note..  Anyone have experience with Dreamweaver
MX and VSS?  Work as well as Studio/VSS?



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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Kevin Gilchrist

Now if only it would support CVS.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


Any idea if Dreamweaver supports the SCC API  that would allow use of
other types of Source Control? Or did they intentionally tie it
exclusively to the MS product for some reason?

Ken



-Original Message-
From: Fitch, Tyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


Hi Lee,

I've found VSS with DWMX to be way, way, way better than any usage of
projects in studio ever was.

The VSS integration is one of the main reasons I switched early on.

Cheers,

t

**
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Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer http://isitedesign.com
**

-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


On a slightly different note..  Anyone have experience with Dreamweaver
MX and VSS?  Work as well as Studio/VSS?




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Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Cathy Taylor

I'd like to know this as well. We used PVCS client with CF Studio and have
found it just won't even hook into DW as far as we can tell.

Cathy

- Original Message -
From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


 Any idea if Dreamweaver supports the SCC API  that would allow use of
 other types of Source Control? Or did they intentionally tie it
 exclusively to the MS product for some reason?

 Ken



 -Original Message-
 From: Fitch, Tyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:59 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


 Hi Lee,

 I've found VSS with DWMX to be way, way, way better than any usage of
 projects in studio ever was.

 The VSS integration is one of the main reasons I switched early on.

 Cheers,

 t

 **
 Tyler M. Fitch
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer http://isitedesign.com
 **

 -Original Message-
 From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:45 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


 On a slightly different note..  Anyone have experience with Dreamweaver
 MX and VSS?  Work as well as Studio/VSS?



 
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RE: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

Anything open-source? I've used VSS and I like it well enough -- I just
don't know that I'll have the cash to license it soon...

 Jedit supports MS Visual Source Safe using the SourceControl plugin and
 CVS using the JEditCVS plugin. Both can be had using the built-in plugin
 installed (Plugins  Plugin Manager  Install Plugins) or from
 http://plugins.jedit.org

 Thanks,

 Joshua Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF
 Studio


 This is OT but I'm wondering if anyone in the JEdit community has heard
 anything about a source/version control plugin? I'm less concerned about
 versioning and the like, but it'd be nice to have access to a simple
 checkout/checkin service to prevent simultaneous overwrites, and/or a
 document comparison tool.


 Weel that's what I mean to recall too. Jeff said he had a mapped
 drive, so it shouldn't be a problem. And VSS-Server allows to publish
 a project (if needed) to an online server. I think it's a very good
 solution for a concurrent users working with CFStudio. The only sad
 thing is to connect to the VSS-Server via Internet. I tested
 SourceOffSite, but that screwed (kind of) my checked in/out files with

 where users with LAN-connection to the server worked also on the
 project. Hrmm... Perhaps I'll try to get my VPN working sometime...

 Patric



 KW I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are based on local

 KW or mapped drives.

 KW Ken



 KW -Original Message-
 KW From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 KW Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
 KW To: CF-Talk
 KW Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


 KW   Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF
 KW Studio project with files over RDS, though.
 KW   It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this
 morning,
 KW though.


 KW At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Jeffry,

when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on
the server. At least it should be.

Patric


JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
 
 Very well, I've used it in the past.
 
 It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.
 KW That
 I think I'm probably missing something important with regards

   to
 Source
   Control.
 
 Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able

 to edit it ?
 
 I think the way round it is to check things out to a local
 project, and
 then
 use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server
 when

 ya done.

JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A,
wouldn't I
JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any
JH effect?


JH --
JH Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JH Need a Web Developer?  Contact me!
JH AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
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JH http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-
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JH 
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RE: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Lee Fuller

Great.. That answers that..   Thanks!

Lee


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| 
| 
| Hi Lee,
| 
| I've found VSS with DWMX to be way, way, way better than any 
| usage of projects in studio ever was.
| 
| The VSS integration is one of the main reasons I switched early on.
| 
| Cheers,
| 
| t
| 
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| 
| 
| On a slightly different note..  Anyone have experience with 
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| 
| 
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Re: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Howie Hamlin

What about freevcs?

http://www.freevcs.org/index.htm

Regards,

Howie

- Original Message - 
From: S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: RE: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


 Anything open-source? I've used VSS and I like it well enough -- I just
 don't know that I'll have the cash to license it soon...
 
  Jedit supports MS Visual Source Safe using the SourceControl plugin and
  CVS using the JEditCVS plugin. Both can be had using the built-in plugin
  installed (Plugins  Plugin Manager  Install Plugins) or from
  http://plugins.jedit.org
 
  Thanks,
 
  Joshua Miller
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:46 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: OT: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF
  Studio
 
 
  This is OT but I'm wondering if anyone in the JEdit community has heard
  anything about a source/version control plugin? I'm less concerned about
  versioning and the like, but it'd be nice to have access to a simple
  checkout/checkin service to prevent simultaneous overwrites, and/or a
  document comparison tool.
 
 
  Weel that's what I mean to recall too. Jeff said he had a mapped
  drive, so it shouldn't be a problem. And VSS-Server allows to publish
  a project (if needed) to an online server. I think it's a very good
  solution for a concurrent users working with CFStudio. The only sad
  thing is to connect to the VSS-Server via Internet. I tested
  SourceOffSite, but that screwed (kind of) my checked in/out files with
 
  where users with LAN-connection to the server worked also on the
  project. Hrmm... Perhaps I'll try to get my VPN working sometime...
 
  Patric
 
 
 
  KW I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are based on local
 
  KW or mapped drives.
 
  KW Ken
 
 
 
  KW -Original Message-
  KW From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  KW Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
  KW To: CF-Talk
  KW Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio
 
 
  KW   Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF
  KW Studio project with files over RDS, though.
  KW   It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this
  morning,
  KW though.
 
 
  KW At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
 Hi Jeffry,
 
 when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on
 the server. At least it should be.
 
 Patric
 
 
 JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
  How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
  
  Very well, I've used it in the past.
  
  It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file locally.
  KW That
  I think I'm probably missing something important with regards
 
to
  Source
Control.
  
  Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be able
 
  to edit it ?
  
  I think the way round it is to check things out to a local
  project, and
  then
  use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server
  when
 
  ya done.
 
 JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
 JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A,
 wouldn't I
 JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any
 JH effect?
 
 
 JH --
 JH Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 JH Need a Web Developer?  Contact me!
 JH AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
 JH --
 JH My CFMX Book:
 JH http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-
 JH 20
 JH 
 JH My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com
 JH My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com
 
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RE: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread Joshua Miller

CVS is open source - Jedit supports CVS using the JEditCVS plugin.
http://www.cvshome.org/

Joshua Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF
Studio


Anything open-source? I've used VSS and I like it well enough -- I just
don't know that I'll have the cash to license it soon...

 Jedit supports MS Visual Source Safe using the SourceControl plugin 
 and CVS using the JEditCVS plugin. Both can be had using the built-in 
 plugin installed (Plugins  Plugin Manager  Install Plugins) or from 
 http://plugins.jedit.org

 Thanks,

 Joshua Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF

 Studio


 This is OT but I'm wondering if anyone in the JEdit community has 
 heard anything about a source/version control plugin? I'm less 
 concerned about versioning and the like, but it'd be nice to have 
 access to a simple checkout/checkin service to prevent simultaneous 
 overwrites, and/or a document comparison tool.


 Weel that's what I mean to recall too. Jeff said he had a mapped 
 drive, so it shouldn't be a problem. And VSS-Server allows to publish

 a project (if needed) to an online server. I think it's a very good 
 solution for a concurrent users working with CFStudio. The only sad 
 thing is to connect to the VSS-Server via Internet. I tested 
 SourceOffSite, but that screwed (kind of) my checked in/out files 
 with

 where users with LAN-connection to the server worked also on the 
 project. Hrmm... Perhaps I'll try to get my VPN working sometime...

 Patric



 KW I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are based on 
 KW local

 KW or mapped drives.

 KW Ken



 KW -Original Message-
 KW From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 KW Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
 KW To: CF-Talk
 KW Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


 KW   Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to fill a CF 
 KW Studio project with files over RDS, though.
 KW   It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible by me this
 morning,
 KW though.


 KW At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Jeffry,

when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes marked ni VSS on 
the server. At least it should be.

Patric


JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source Safe?
 
 Very well, I've used it in the past.
 
 It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the file 
   locally.
 KW That
 I think I'm probably missing something important with 
   regards

   to
 Source
   Control.
 
 Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how would you be 
 able

 to edit it ?
 
 I think the way round it is to check things out to a local 
 project, and
 then
 use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the RDS server 
 when

 ya done.

JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
JH   However, if all the other developers are editing on Server A,
wouldn't I
JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS to have any 
JH effect?


JH --
JH Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JH Need a Web Developer?  Contact me!
JH AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
JH --
JH My CFMX Book:
JH http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu
JH -
JH 20
JH 
JH My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com
JH My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com

JH


 KW


 

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RE: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio

2002-10-10 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

awesome, thanks. :)

 CVS is open source - Jedit supports CVS using the JEditCVS
 plugin.
 http://www.cvshome.org/

 Joshua Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:52 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual Source
 Safe and CF
 Studio


 Anything open-source? I've used VSS and I like it well
 enough -- I just
 don't know that I'll have the cash to license it soon...

 Jedit supports MS Visual Source Safe using the
 SourceControl plugin
 and CVS using the JEditCVS plugin. Both can be had using
 the built-in
 plugin installed (Plugins  Plugin Manager  Install
 Plugins) or from
 http://plugins.jedit.org

 Thanks,

 Joshua Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: JEdit Source Control -- was Re: Visual
 Source Safe and CF

 Studio


 This is OT but I'm wondering if anyone in the JEdit
 community has
 heard anything about a source/version control plugin? I'm
 less
 concerned about versioning and the like, but it'd be nice
 to have
 access to a simple checkout/checkin service to prevent
 simultaneous
 overwrites, and/or a document comparison tool.


 Weel that's what I mean to recall too. Jeff said he had
 a mapped
 drive, so it shouldn't be a problem. And VSS-Server
 allows to publish

 a project (if needed) to an online server. I think it's
 a very good
 solution for a concurrent users working with CFStudio.
 The only sad
 thing is to connect to the VSS-Server via Internet. I
 tested
 SourceOffSite, but that screwed (kind of) my checked
 in/out files
 with

 where users with LAN-connection to the server worked
 also on the
 project. Hrmm... Perhaps I'll try to get my VPN working
 sometime...

 Patric



 KW I don't believe Projects work with RDS. Project are
 based on
 KW local

 KW or mapped drives.

 KW Ken



 KW -Original Message-
 KW From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 KW Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:39 AM
 KW To: CF-Talk
 KW Subject: Re: Visual Source Safe and CF Studio


 KW   Okay, that makes sense.  I can't figure out how to
 fill a CF
 KW Studio project with files over RDS, though.
 KW   It hasn't helped that the server was inaccessible
 by me this
 morning,
 KW though.


 KW At 03:07 PM 10/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Jeffry,

when you log any file out via CFStudio it becomes
marked ni VSS on
the server. At least it should be.

Patric


JH At 01:08 PM 10/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 How does CF Studio integrate with Visual Source
 Safe?
 
 Very well, I've used it in the past.
 
 It seems to me that VSS is intended to copy the
 file
   locally.
 KW That
 I think I'm probably missing something
 important with
   regards

   to
 Source
   Control.
 
 Well, if it didn't copy it to local storage, how
 would you be
 able

 to edit it ?
 
 I think the way round it is to check things out to a
 local
 project, and
 then
 use Studio's deploy functions to send them up to the
 RDS server
 when

 ya done.

JH   It is all becoming clear (sort of)
JH   However, if all the other developers are editing
on Server A,
wouldn't I
JH have to be editing on the same server for the VSS
to have any
JH effect?


JH --
JH Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

JH Need a Web Developer?  Contact me!
JH AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
JH --
JH My CFMX Book:
JH http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/
instantcoldfu
JH -
JH 20
JH 
JH My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com
JH My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com

JH


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SOT: COM Access of MS Visual Source Safe via CF

2002-07-03 Thread Hatton Humphrey

We use VSS exclusively here and are wondering if there is a way to set 
up access of Source Safe through using a CFObject.

Anyone do this before or have experience with this?

Thanks!
Hatton

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Re: SOT: COM Access of MS Visual Source Safe via CF

2002-07-03 Thread Mike Townend

Not sure about COM, but one of my old companies used SourceSafe to create 
builds... all this was automated with batch files as you can pass 
parameters into the command line...

So if there is no COM option then you could potentially CFExecute...

HTH




At 09:17 3/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
We use VSS exclusively here and are wondering if there is a way to set
up access of Source Safe through using a CFObject.

Anyone do this before or have experience with this?

Thanks!
Hatton


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RE: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-30 Thread Bill Grover

We use VSS for all development.  We develop in ColdFusion, Visual 
FoxPro,
Visual Basic, SQL Server and a few more and all of it is in VSS.  In 
fact
when we write specification documents and prototype screens we store 
those
in VSS.

As far as CF development (or web development in general) we point all 
of our
working directories to our development web server and do everything 
there.
The only rule we have is if multiple developers are working on the 
same
project you only check out what you are working on.  The other benefit 
we
found is that we have some standard files that we use in all CF 
applications
(error trapping, common Java scripts, etc).  In this case we shared 
these
files between multiple projects so as we enhance the code all previous
projects will be updated as well.

We do everything with manual checkouts.  We have tried integrating VSS 
with
the various development packages and found that the automatic
checkin/checkout seemed to slow everything to a crawl.  We found it 
faster
to just keep a copy of VSS running and Alt-Tab to it and checkout a 
file
when we needed it.

Supposedly there is an integration between SQL Server and VSS.  I had 
one of
my developers try to get it working.  He sorta got it working but the 
way it
is implemented just didn't fit how we work very well.  You also end up
needing to install a bunch of development tools on your SQL Server.  If 
you
want more information on this let me know and I'll get the information 
on
how to do the integration.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:35 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe
 
 
 We use VSS here.
 
 Integration wise things are pretty good... we have to 
 manually check files
 in and out and it logs everything, which is the main reason 
 that it's usage
 was implemented.  It does also make things a bit less 
 confusing.  We handle
 a large number of projects, both large and small and new and 
 old... VSS
 gives us one place to look for the source of any of it.  It 
 has also helped
 us locate those frustrating what changed problems.  This 
 can be a pain for
 us where we have 8 developers and multiple devel servers.
 
 The downside is that anyone with direct access to the server 
 can bypass it.
 Oh, that plus the fact that there is no integration with MS 
 SQL Server.
 
 Good luck!
 Hatton Humphrey
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jaye Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:28 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe
 
 
  Hope this is not too OT.  Are there any dev teams uisng 
 Visual Source
  Safe for their code (or similar product)?  Did you find it useful?
 
 
  // Jaye Morris, Multimedia Designer
  
 

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Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Jaye Morris

Hope this is not too OT.  Are there any dev teams uisng Visual Source
Safe for their code (or similar product)?  Did you find it useful?


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RE: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Weaver, Anthony

At The Limited, some groups are using SourceSafe for CF source control.

We have integrated SourceSafe at the client side only.  Some use 
project
files and automatic check-in/out.  Others simply manually check in/out 
the
files.

I personally think it is great.  Some people here do not like it, but I
can't stand developing without source control.

If you would like any more information, please do not hesitate to let 
me
know.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe


Hope this is not too OT.  Are there any dev teams uisng Visual Source
Safe for their code (or similar product)?  Did you find it useful?


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RE: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey

We use VSS here.

Integration wise things are pretty good... we have to manually check files
in and out and it logs everything, which is the main reason that it's usage
was implemented.  It does also make things a bit less confusing.  We handle
a large number of projects, both large and small and new and old... VSS
gives us one place to look for the source of any of it.  It has also helped
us locate those frustrating what changed problems.  This can be a pain for
us where we have 8 developers and multiple devel servers.

The downside is that anyone with direct access to the server can bypass it.
Oh, that plus the fact that there is no integration with MS SQL Server.

Good luck!
Hatton Humphrey


 -Original Message-
 From: Jaye Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:28 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe


 Hope this is not too OT.  Are there any dev teams uisng Visual Source
 Safe for their code (or similar product)?  Did you find it useful?


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Re: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Scott Brady

Jaye Morris:
 Hope this is not too OT.  Are there any dev teams uisng Visual Source
 Safe for their code (or similar product)?  Did you find it useful?

The last place I worked used it and there weren't many problems with using
it.  And, it did make it easier to roll back code when things didn't go
quite as planned.

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Re: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Nick Texidor

I used the two together for a few years, it saved my bacon a few times
too!!

I found it very useful for several reasons including, a history of
changes, code could be recoevered in the event of deleting files, and
the ability to rollback to any previous version of the file.  All normal
source control things really.

Since switching to Linux for development, I still use Source Control in
the form of cvs. Wouldn't code without it now!

N


Jaye Morris wrote:
 
 Hope this is not too OT.  Are there any dev teams uisng Visual Source
 Safe for their code (or similar product)?  Did you find it useful?
 
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RE: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Shawn Grover

We use it extensively for all of our projects - CF and otherwise.

For our web apps, it's pretty handy for each developer to use the same
working folder on the development server.  But you have to be aware of 
who
has what checked out in that case.

VSS saved our buts once or twice when files became corrupted - we were 
able
to just retrieve the next one back in the history.

On the other hand, we did have some problems with the VSS database 
becoming
messed up.  We ended up fixing it when new servers were installed (we 
were
functional, but just had to be extra careful).

I wouldn't approach any commercial venture with out version control of 
some
sort.

Shawn Grover

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Hope this is not too OT.  Are there any dev teams uisng Visual Source
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RE: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Joel Parramore

Source control in general is a good idea for being able to work on multip
le
versions of a codebase by several developers (as well as being able to re
cover
more easily from an oops-type maneuver.  We use VSS here for both ColdF
usion
templates for web apps and desktop application development.  (ColdFusion'
s
integration with VSS appears to be fairly decent, albeit managing files t
hru
projects can be slow at times, esp. with large numbers of files in the pr
oject.)
We use VSS also in handling versioning on database scripts.  You can also
 check
out files to your own working directory and edit those separately using t
he
editor of your choice.

We also use CVS for an older set of C CGI code and various Unix/Linux scr
ipts.
I'd move to using ColdFusion with CVS if there was a decent interface to 
it from
ColdFusion.  You can check out files to a working directory and edit usin
g
ColdFusion (or editor of choice) from there with CVS, also.

And, as with any versioning system, your source control is only as good a
s long
as all users agree to use it consistently.

Regards,
Joel Parramore





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RE: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Ken Wilson

Speaking of Source Control, does anyone here have experience with Perforce.
Better yet, anyone here with experience in both VSS and Perforce that might
be able to address differences/benefits of one over the other.

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RE: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Shawn Grover

snip
And, as with any versioning system, your source control is only as good a
s long
as all users agree to use it consistently.
/snip

Agree??? I didn't have a choice.  I was pretty much told to use it, or go
elsewhere. 
(hmmm that sounds more extreme than it was...)
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RE: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Zac Belado

 Hope this is not too OT.  Are there any dev teams uisng Visual Source
 Safe for their code (or similar product)?  Did you find it useful?

Our team is currently using it for one project and while it is useful we're
looking at moving to CVS instead.

The main problem is a lack of cross platform tools (there is a Mac version
but its an older version of the database format) and the lack of net tools.
We can access CVS via a wide range of tools and also access CVS remotely.

But if you're not interested in using CVS then VSS is a much better
alternative to nothing at all.

The most useful thing, to my mind, is the history features that allow you to
see when a file was modified, by whom and even allow you to view any change
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Re: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe

2002-01-29 Thread Billy Cravens

I've used PVCS Version Manager (similar to VSS) with success in the past.
If you integrate it into Studio, it works pretty well.

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Visual Source Safe w/h CFServer 5

2002-01-01 Thread Duane Boudreau

Is there a way to integrate VSS with Server 5 if VSS was installed after
CFServer?

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OT: Visual Source Safe

2001-12-20 Thread David Brown

We currently use VSS for source control and it works well with CF. But we
also now need to include a mac user into the source control.

Is there a client for VSS for mac's?

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RE: Visual Source Safe

2001-12-20 Thread Zac Belado

 Is there a client for VSS for mac's?

Yup. I beleive that its only version 5 so you need to create a version 5 DB
to accommodate that user

http://www.metrowerks.com/desktop/MWVSS/
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Visual Source Safe

2001-01-08 Thread Nathan Stanford

Has anyone used Visual Source Safe with ColdFusion and multiple programmers?

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RE: Visual Source Safe

2001-01-08 Thread Rye Smith

Nathan,

We have multiple Developers using Visual Source Safe with Cold Fusion. are
you having a problem or Question?

-Rye
Ininet Inc.


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Re: Visual Source Safe

2001-01-08 Thread Todd Ashworth

Yes.

Todd Ashworth

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RE: Visual Source Safe

2001-01-08 Thread Dan Allison

We also use Visual Source Safe with multiple Developers.  What is the issue?

Dan

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RE: Visual Source Safe

2001-01-08 Thread Kiran Samudrala

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Re: Visual Source Safe

2001-01-08 Thread Dave Hannum

I have.  What do you want to know?

Dave



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RE: Visual Source Safe

2001-01-08 Thread Russel Madere

Ditto!

We have 8 developers, with 2 remote, on about 15 different "projects" in
VSS.

What's up?


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 Yes.

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RE: Studio and MS Visual Source Safe

2000-06-20 Thread Dan O'Keefe

I think that pricing is accurate. I checked into it for a client once
before, and could not believe it. I have been using it for a while with 4.5
and now 4.5.1, and it works pretty good. I agree that SourceSafe in and of
itself is a little clunky to get used to, but has a fair amount of features.
The is also a 3rd party product called Source OffSite, which allows you web
access to VSS. I downloaded it today and will be trying it out.

Dan

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I use Studio and Source Safe together.  I had problems with source control
integration under Studio 4.5, and from what I understand the problems still
haven't been resolved, so I'm still using Studio 4.I wouldn't do any
coding without having Source Safe to fall back on now, it's saved me from
hair-ripping-out-frustration on several occasions!!!

Not sure about the $500 per computer though...  I got VSS with VB6, and I'm
not running on a network, so I can't compare costs.  I guess the answer is,
Source Control - Definitely,  Visual Source Safe - well, it's nice, but
look at the alternatives and compare costs.





At 22:42 19/06/00 -0400, you wrote:
I am looking into some sort of Source Control product but cannot find much
info on they really work.

I know studio will integrate into MS Visual Source Safe, does anybody out
there do this? Is it really worth the $500 bucks per computer to run it?

Any help here would be great.

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Re: Studio and MS Visual Source Safe

2000-06-19 Thread Nick Slay

I use Studio and Source Safe together.  I had problems with source control 
integration under Studio 4.5, and from what I understand the problems still 
haven't been resolved, so I'm still using Studio 4.I wouldn't do any 
coding without having Source Safe to fall back on now, it's saved me from 
hair-ripping-out-frustration on several occasions!!!

Not sure about the $500 per computer though...  I got VSS with VB6, and I'm 
not running on a network, so I can't compare costs.  I guess the answer is, 
Source Control - Definitely,  Visual Source Safe - well, it's nice, but 
look at the alternatives and compare costs.





At 22:42 19/06/00 -0400, you wrote:
I am looking into some sort of Source Control product but cannot find much
info on they really work.

I know studio will integrate into MS Visual Source Safe, does anybody out
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Any help here would be great.

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OT: Using Visual Source Safe with MACS on an NT network?

2000-03-28 Thread stephen holland chang

does anyone know if you can check out files with a MAC using visual source
safe if the macs are connected through an NT server network?

thanks
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