[cfaussie] Re: JSON

2009-07-15 Thread Raymond Camden

As others have said, while you CAN turn a CFC into JSON, it isn't a
valid translation - much like how duplicate() on CFCs in the old days
would "work", but not return a valid CFC.


On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:32 AM, CyberAngel wrote:
>
> Paul, you are right you can't serialize a component or object to JSon.
>
> I think Gavin when you dump it out to the browser it tends to look like an
> Array, it is an Array of objects that can also have many hidden variables
> and other things that will not be viewable with a cfdump.
>
> Your best option is to turn it to a query, or run a ORMSession query to
> return the data you are looking for.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Paul Kukiel
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> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: JSON
>
>
> I'm pretty sure you can't serialize a component ( ORM or
> otherwise ).  You could write a toStruct method on the component and
> serialize the struct to send that as JSOn.
>
> Paul
>
>
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: JSON

2009-07-14 Thread Raymond Camden

I don't think size matters - any more than it does with anything else
in CF. Technically, I could create a CF array with 1 billion elements,
but I might run out of RAM. I'd think you would have more trouble
making the large object than serializing it (although the string
generated may be 'bigger' RAM wise). I guess I personally wouldn't
worry about it.

Max depth? Not that I know of.

You mentioned complex obs - are you trying to serialize a CFC? If so,
you can't. Well, you _can_, but you just get the This scope variables.

Maybe you can share more about the object you are trying to serialize?


On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Gavin Baumanis wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I seem to be having an issue with serialisation of objects to JSON
> objects.
>
> I thought initially that it was a cfdate object issue. But I can
> serialize individual datetime objects just fine.
> The only things left - that I don't know the answer to are;
>
> is there a max size that can be converted?
> Is there a max depth? can I have nested objects and serialise the
> "top" object and expect it all to work?
>
> Technically I have no idea what I am talking about - which makes it a
> little hard to ask for help...
> All I know is that I can serialze simple data values and deserialize
> them fine and dandy - but it doesn't seem to want to work for me with
> a complex object graph.
>
> Gavin.
>
>
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: CF8 bug with CFDOCUMENT

2009-02-18 Thread Raymond Camden

So wait, you said you copied the arg. So I assume you did



Is that what you did? I'm asking because you say at the end "I don't
think you can VAR the local variable."


On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Matthew  wrote:
>
> Thanks Ryan and Ray for the responses. The code worked perfectly fine
> in CF7. I've just logged the bug with Adobe.
>
> By the way: the simple fix is just to create a new local variable in
> the function and assign the argument variable to the local variable
> (it's a waste but at least it gets my code working again) - NOTE: I
> don't think you can VAR the local variable so it's still really a bug.
>
> Cheers
> Matthew
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: CF8 bug with CFDOCUMENT

2009-02-17 Thread Raymond Camden

Interesting. I know that there is a cfdocument scope inside
cfdocumentitem tag. I wonder if that is part of the conflict?

Worse comes to worse, you can generate your headers in DDX.


On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:04 PM, ryanhoppitt  wrote:
>
> I get the same error as you.
>
> I noticed that outputting #structKeyList(arguments)# within
>  reveals a single key called "attributes" which
> appears to be a blank struct. Seems whatever code is behind
>  is operating in a whole other scope.
>
> Seems fine for output in the document body though.
>
>
> On Feb 18, 11:45 am, Matthew  wrote:
>> Someone must be running CF8 and can try the code? Anyone?
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Clear query cache

2008-11-12 Thread Raymond Camden



There ya go. :) That assumes Y is a query. Here is a more fuller, but
still a bit pseudo-code, example:



  
  select id, name
  from states
  

  


Obviously this could be wrapped up into a CFC.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:43 PM, George Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you Raymond. I've tried the first one - it didn't work. I'll try the
> second one.
>
> Would you be able to give me an example how to put cache in the Application
> scope?
>
> Thanks,
> George
>
> 2008/11/13 Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> You have two methods:
>>
>> 1) 
>>
>> This clears ALL cached queries on the entire box.
>>
>> 2) You can rerun the query with a timespan of 0,0,0,0.
>>
>> Note - the SQL must be the exact same, and that includes white space!
>>
>> Personally I cache my queries in the Application or Session scope.
>> Makes it a lot easier to clear.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:22 PM, George Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've got a query in a CFC with a cache setting:
>> > cachedWithin="#CreateTimeSpan(7,0,0,0)#". I've updated the query but how
>> > can
>> > I clear or reset the cache so I can see the updated query result now?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > George
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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[cfaussie] Re: Clear query cache

2008-11-12 Thread Raymond Camden

You have two methods:

1) 

This clears ALL cached queries on the entire box.

2) You can rerun the query with a timespan of 0,0,0,0.

Note - the SQL must be the exact same, and that includes white space!

Personally I cache my queries in the Application or Session scope.
Makes it a lot easier to clear.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:22 PM, George Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got a query in a CFC with a cache setting:
> cachedWithin="#CreateTimeSpan(7,0,0,0)#". I've updated the query but how can
> I clear or reset the cache so I can see the updated query result now?
>
> Thanks,
> George
>
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Orientation of x-axis labels in a bar graph

2008-11-12 Thread Raymond Camden

Just as an FYI, 9 out of 10 cfchart questions I get can be answered by
going to the chart editor. It is rather powerful.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Seona Bellamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Thanks Cassie and Steve. I'd never even known that was there! Time to
> start playing I guess. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
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[cfaussie] Re: Finding the scope of variable was found in

2008-11-12 Thread Raymond Camden

Does this help?

http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2008/10/6/Ask-a-Jedi-Finding-where-a-variable-is-defined



On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Brontojoris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've inherited a CF app that has A LOT of unscoped variables, which
> are sometimes coming from the FORM, URL, or QUERY scopes.
>
> Does anyone know of a code snippet that will show me where ColdFusion
> found that variable?
>
> I understand that CF will walk down the scope tree until it finds the
> variable (Function > Thread > Query > Arguments > Variables > CGI >
> File> URL > Form > Cookie > Client ), so I'm wondering if there is
> some sort of magic internal Coldfusion function can access that will
> return to me where CF found the variable.
>
> Thanks,
> Joris
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: CFIMAGE performance

2008-10-25 Thread Raymond Camden

I find that a lot of people don't realize that there are multiple
quality/speed settings. I agree that a 40k image shouldn't take long
to resize, but _have_ you tried the other quality settings?

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ofcourse i read the docs. If i didn't I wouldn't know how to implement it in
> the first place now would I.
>
> Regardless of the "prettyness" setting, its a 40k image. It shouldn't take
> that long to resize it.
>
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[cfaussie] Re: CFIMAGE performance

2008-10-24 Thread Raymond Camden

Did you read the docs? CF8s image resize feature has about 15 or so
options for how to resize. These range from "Really pretty and slow"
to "Really fast and not so pretty." CF defaults to really pretty. You
should try playing around with the resize options to find a good
medium for you.

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just jpg's which are about 40k each
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFIMAGE performance
>
>
> I mean what sort of images, jpeg 1mb?
>
> what are you doing with them?
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Working with?
>>
>> CF8.1 on 64bit OS. The images arent even that big either
>>
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>> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFIMAGE performance
>>
>>
>> yep, I have found it to be generally pretty fast, what you working with?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>> Anyone here using CFIMAGE and/or related functions and finding it it
>>> incredibly slow?
>>>
>>> Resize 20 images takes for ever!
>>>
>>> Any pointers on speeding it up?
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> >
>>>
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[cfaussie] Re: CFIMAGE supported image types

2008-10-22 Thread Raymond Camden

getReadableImageFormats()
getWriteableImageFormats()

Maybe show your code?

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are there images you cant use with CFIMAGE ?
>
> I am having an issue with a jog image and it just wont save.  The image
> loads ok, resizes but when i try to write it out to the file system again it
> just errors saying the file doesnt exists.  Well derr.. of course not, i am
> trying to write it.  Its like the original image is there and then cf
> deleted it in prep to write it out again but fails.
>
> It is just on a specific image.  Am happy to send the image to some people
> to test it..
>
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[cfaussie] Re: Adserving software

2008-07-15 Thread Raymond Camden

Thanks for the support Mike. :)

Let me also add that I wrote Harlan back when I had a love affair with
Flash Forms. Please forgive me...

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I dont know what your needs are Zac, but you could do a whole lot
> worse than Ray's Harlan.   I've used it myself.
>
> Then it became the basis for the spec I used for my own system.  My
> final spec is really Harlan with a whole bunch of customisations to
> suit the specifics of our radio station's needs and the specificis of
> how we  sell and administer ads on the radio station.   We just had to
> change some fo the tracking and billing aspects to match what we do on
> the station's on air ads.
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[cfaussie] Re: Adserving software

2008-07-15 Thread Raymond Camden

If you want CF/OS, you can try Harlan, my ad server software, but it
is quite old and I haven't updated it in a while. (Mainly cuz I
haven't gotten any requests too - not because I don't want to update
it.)

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Zac Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> anyone got any recommendations?
>
> I have found this one http://www.openx.org/en/products/demo
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[cfaussie] Re: Per application mapping

2008-07-03 Thread Raymond Camden

I'd argue that it doesn't. Maybe it's me just being picky, and I'm far
from an OO expert. I guess I felt like you said it was -required-, and
while I think everyone should drop app.cfm like a bad hairdo, I don't
think it is _required_ for an OO site.


On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> eh? You have events? you have properties? what part of this isn't OO? As
> whilst Coldfusion will route event argumnets to the various event handlers
> automaticaly for you, it does begin the OO composition does it not.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure this comment really makes sense. Having a OO designed
>> model isnt' really something that forces you to use Application.cfc.
>> The main thing App.cfc gives you is more fine grained control over
>> application events and settings.
>>
>> That being said - Rony, definitely switch. If something breaks, its
>> your code's fault. I'd be willing to bet you guys used onRequest and
>> that broke your web service/flash remoting calls. The fix for that is
>> to just remove it. ;)
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > Application.CFC is the only way to fly as you set yourself up for better
>> > OO
>> > composition.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Rony Fayyad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well one of my colleagues was saying that using application.cfc broke
>> >> some
>> >> of the application. Can't recall what it was but that is why we have
>> >> not
>> >> moved into the application.cfc yet.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your feedback Mark. Much appreciated.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> >> Behalf Of Mark Mandel
>> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 2:18 PM
>> >> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Per application mapping
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yup, you can only do it application.cfc
>> >>
>> >> Why don't you convert the application.cfm to a .cfc, it's usually
>> >> pretty
>> >> straight forward.
>> >>
>> >> Mark
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Rony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> I have utilised the CF8 per application mapping in a couple of my
>> >> projects that all use application.cfc.
>> >>
>> >> Now, I am working on a project that uses application.cfm. Doing what i
>> >> did in the application.cfc for other projects DID NOT work for the
>> >> application.cfm
>> >>
>> >> Does the per application setting ONLY work for application.cfc and NOT
>> >> application.cfm?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >>
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[cfaussie] Re: Per application mapping

2008-07-03 Thread Raymond Camden

I'm not sure this comment really makes sense. Having a OO designed
model isnt' really something that forces you to use Application.cfc.
The main thing App.cfc gives you is more fine grained control over
application events and settings.

That being said - Rony, definitely switch. If something breaks, its
your code's fault. I'd be willing to bet you guys used onRequest and
that broke your web service/flash remoting calls. The fix for that is
to just remove it. ;)

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Application.CFC is the only way to fly as you set yourself up for better OO
> composition.
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Rony Fayyad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Well one of my colleagues was saying that using application.cfc broke some
>> of the application. Can't recall what it was but that is why we have not
>> moved into the application.cfc yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback Mark. Much appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Mark Mandel
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 2:18 PM
>> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Per application mapping
>>
>>
>>
>> Yup, you can only do it application.cfc
>>
>> Why don't you convert the application.cfm to a .cfc, it's usually pretty
>> straight forward.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Rony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have utilised the CF8 per application mapping in a couple of my
>> projects that all use application.cfc.
>>
>> Now, I am working on a project that uses application.cfm. Doing what i
>> did in the application.cfc for other projects DID NOT work for the
>> application.cfm
>>
>> Does the per application setting ONLY work for application.cfc and NOT
>> application.cfm?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
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>> W: www.compoundtheory.com
>>
>> >>
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[cfaussie] Re: CFLIB.org re-release - lots of CF code - check it out

2008-06-10 Thread Raymond Camden

Right. That's it though. Home Page. Libraries. UDF. Period. You can go
from UDF to library - note on top there is a link back to the parent
library for a UDF. The only thing you can't do is quickly go back to
the list of all libraries. But really though - the site is _far_
smaller now.

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> There isnt any other way to navigate other than the libraries from what I
> can see
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[cfaussie] Re: CFLIB.org re-release - lots of CF code - check it out

2008-06-09 Thread Raymond Camden

Thanks for the mention Barry. If anyone has any questions or
objections, I'm on the list, so ask away.

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The new http://www.cflib.org/ is now live! and it looks a lot better too!
>
> for those that might not have known (or forgotten), CFLib is a
> repository of a vast number of utility functions and helpers (all
> written in CFScript). it's been around since CF5.0 days.
>
> you shouldn't need to write your own date functions, or conversions
> from queries to arrays of structs: it's already been done!
>
> thanks to David Harris (CFugNewZealand) for the heads-up of the re-release
>
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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-06-02 Thread Raymond Camden

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:16 AM, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good stuff. What sort of Coopers?

Heh just teasing. I know I made the mistake of saying I liked Fosters
before on this list. ;) Since then I've had the chance to taste
Coopers and I do like it. (Although haven't had it in a while.)

> Previously you said " So if anyone wants to help w/ Seeker, just say the
> word."
> I'm wondering, what would the process be to get this collaboration going?
>
> Note I use the word collaborate, not contribute :) :)

Well the bug tracker is turned on, so feel free to use it. ;)

FYI, I've had one user say that the Lucene bits don't seem to ship
with his version of CF. If you get class issues, just download the
JARs from lucene.apache.org.

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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-06-02 Thread Raymond Camden

I released the update this morning. I had a few Coopers to celebrate.
Now I'm done for the day...

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> sent in some bug reports on Seeker. I got around to looking at them
> and have made some pretty critical bug fixes, including one bonehead
> one where results wouldn't be returned if one match was found. I'm
> about to head out to a party, but please check seeker.riaforge.org for
> an update soon.
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:33 PM, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I didn't mean to dismiss it completely, it I've used it and had issues,
>>> that's all. Just sharing what I know.
>>> The limit is easily reached if you're indexing a DB, for example.
>>
>> I don't know - I haven't hit the limit yet - but I'm not working w/
>> big DBs normally.
>>
>>
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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-31 Thread Raymond Camden

FYI, and this is totally by coincidence - a few weeks ago someone had
sent in some bug reports on Seeker. I got around to looking at them
and have made some pretty critical bug fixes, including one bonehead
one where results wouldn't be returned if one match was found. I'm
about to head out to a party, but please check seeker.riaforge.org for
an update soon.

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:33 PM, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I didn't mean to dismiss it completely, it I've used it and had issues,
>> that's all. Just sharing what I know.
>> The limit is easily reached if you're indexing a DB, for example.
>
> I don't know - I haven't hit the limit yet - but I'm not working w/
> big DBs normally.
>
>
>> Oooh... AND it doesn't run natively on OSX (after thought).
>
> Yeah, that does bug me. :)
>
>> You can also install the CF/verity server on a separate machine, but this is
>> only allowed to communicate with one other CF server. Ie: Not much chop when
>> servicing a cluster of CF servers. You'll need a CF Enterprise Ed. license
>> for you 'master' verity server too.
>>
>> Not sure why I'm saying all this... I'm in Japan and really should get out
>> of the hotel, but it's raining hard.
>> All in all, I was just trying to punch the air and get the people interested
>> in working together on a free alternative, using Lucene.
>
> Just so it's clear - I'd like to see the Lucene code worked on by
> others as well, I'm just saying I think Verity is a darn good option
> as well, and it's bundled in and free.
>
> So if anyone wants to help w/ Seeker, just say the word.
>



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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-31 Thread Raymond Camden

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:33 PM, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I didn't mean to dismiss it completely, it I've used it and had issues,
> that's all. Just sharing what I know.
> The limit is easily reached if you're indexing a DB, for example.

I don't know - I haven't hit the limit yet - but I'm not working w/
big DBs normally.


> Oooh... AND it doesn't run natively on OSX (after thought).

Yeah, that does bug me. :)

> You can also install the CF/verity server on a separate machine, but this is
> only allowed to communicate with one other CF server. Ie: Not much chop when
> servicing a cluster of CF servers. You'll need a CF Enterprise Ed. license
> for you 'master' verity server too.
>
> Not sure why I'm saying all this... I'm in Japan and really should get out
> of the hotel, but it's raining hard.
> All in all, I was just trying to punch the air and get the people interested
> in working together on a free alternative, using Lucene.

Just so it's clear - I'd like to see the Lucene code worked on by
others as well, I'm just saying I think Verity is a darn good option
as well, and it's bundled in and free.

So if anyone wants to help w/ Seeker, just say the word.

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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

That number sounds right to me as well.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:26 PM, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it's 250,000 documents, or something like that. The number might be
> wrong but it's the number of documents that is the limit. Also 1 document =
> 1 database row if you're indexing a database, etc.
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>

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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:36 PM, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The verity in CF is capped at (x) documents and is/was expensive to expand.
> I also recall having an index on one CF server was not so esy to use on
> another CF server. I recall having to expose verify functionality as a web
> service so other servers could invoke the same search. Meaning the server
> with the index was a single point of failure. What do you disagree with Ray?
> I did say 'maybe'... of course a jedi could make it work any which way he
> liked :)
>

Yes, there is a cap, but it's pretty high. I don't have the # in front
of me, but for most users it will be more than fine. I'd say the
majority of users. Not everyone. But the majority.

I haven't had issues using verity from one server on another - but I
haven't tried it yet. I assume by server you mean both on the same
box, just different CF servers.

As for what I disagree with - it was your blanket dismissal of the
whole thing I guess. :) I'm not saying it's perfect - but for what it
does - and to have it bundled in for free- it kicks major butt.

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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

When was the last time it was worked on? I think last time I checked
it was abandoned. The URL seems dea for sure.

I also respectfully disagree with you about Verity. But that's another topic.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:14 AM, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wouldn't it make sense to collaborate more on (cf)Lucene? I know of a few
> people who have worked on it. I don't quite get why so multiple variants of
> the same thing need to exists. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with
> that... but it could all be *better*. Maybe if it was good enough Adobe
> could drop Verity...?
>
> My 2c - ditch Verity. From experience it only works practically with one CF
> instance. Try to scale up/out and you're going to have some issues, maybe :P
>

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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

Yeah it could. If I remember right, CF7 had a huge update to Verity.
That being said though - not sure why it wouldn't work fine in CF6.
It's not a complex search.


On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This app is on CF6.01 by the way if that makes any difference
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Raymond Camden
> Sent: Saturday, 31 May 2008 12:46 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: verity quirks
>
>
> And if I may plug myself - my Seeker project (seeker.riaforge.org) is
> another CF Lucene wrapper.
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Dmitry Yakhnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I guess first part of your question is a correct statement =)
>>
>> Try to switch to cfLucene if possible, I am using it with number of
> websites, so far only positive experience.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Dmitry Yakhnov
>> Technical Director
>>
>> Yakhnov Studio
>> http://www.yakhnov.info/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Steve Onnis
>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:17 PM
>> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [cfaussie] verity quirks
>>
>>
>> I have a process of indexing pdf documents and searching but it is
>> driving me mental
>>
>> For example, I have a document that has "Victoria" in it. If I search
> "vic"
>> I get a result but if I search for "victoria" I get nothing.  Even if
>> I search for "vict" I get nothing.
>>
>> Is verity just crap or am I doing something wrong here?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
>
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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

And if I may plug myself - my Seeker project (seeker.riaforge.org) is
another CF Lucene wrapper.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Dmitry Yakhnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I guess first part of your question is a correct statement =)
>
> Try to switch to cfLucene if possible, I am using it with number of websites, 
> so far only positive experience.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dmitry Yakhnov
> Technical Director
>
> Yakhnov Studio
> http://www.yakhnov.info/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve 
> Onnis
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] verity quirks
>
>
> I have a process of indexing pdf documents and searching but it is driving
> me mental
>
> For example, I have a document that has "Victoria" in it. If I search "vic"
> I get a result but if I search for "victoria" I get nothing.  Even if I
> search for "vict" I get nothing.
>
> Is verity just crap or am I doing something wrong here?
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>



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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

Oh I'm sorry. I thought you wanted to confirm the PDF was in there.
You _have_ confirmed that, right?

Also, Verity does not store your content. That wouldn't be efficient.
Instead it creates an index of your content.


On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah but it wont give me the actual content of the collection item. Ill get
> the summary but that's it.
>
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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

Do a search for * or %, I forget which, but one of those returns all.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is there any way to see the data that has been indexed in a collection?  I
> want to see if the text in the pdf is being indexed correctly.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Raymond Camden
> Sent: Saturday, 31 May 2008 12:19 AM
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> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: verity quirks
>
>
> Odd. So I just made a collection. I used cfdcoument to make a PDF:
>
> 
> This is a document with Victoria in it. It is a test for Verity to see if it
> can find the name ok.
> 
>
> I put this PDF into my collection. I then used my VerityTester tool
> (http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2007/10/17/ColdFusion-Administrator
> -Extension--Verity-Searcher)
> to quickly test and I had no problems finding victoria. My tool only
> does:
>
>  criteria="#form.search#" name="result" status="meta"
> startrow="#url.start#" maxrows="#max#">
>
> Are you 100% sure that the PDF is in collection?
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Let me play with this a bit.
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have tried natural, explicit and simple.  Also tried using the
>>>  thing
>>>
>>> >> name="papers" suggestions="Never" type="EXPLICIT" />
>>>
>>> Is what I currently have and just doesn't seem to pic up words in the
>>> documents, such as what I have mentioned.
>>>
>>> Driving me nuts
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>



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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

Odd. So I just made a collection. I used cfdcoument to make a PDF:


This is a document with Victoria in it. It is a test for Verity to see
if it can find the name ok.


I put this PDF into my collection. I then used my VerityTester tool
(http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2007/10/17/ColdFusion-Administrator-Extension--Verity-Searcher)
to quickly test and I had no problems finding victoria. My tool only
does:



Are you 100% sure that the PDF is in collection?

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let me play with this a bit.
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I have tried natural, explicit and simple.  Also tried using the 
>> thing
>>
>> > name="papers" suggestions="Never" type="EXPLICIT" />
>>
>> Is what I currently have and just doesn't seem to pic up words in the
>> documents, such as what I have mentioned.
>>
>> Driving me nuts
>>

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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

Let me play with this a bit.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have tried natural, explicit and simple.  Also tried using the 
> thing
>
>  name="papers" suggestions="Never" type="EXPLICIT" />
>
> Is what I currently have and just doesn't seem to pic up words in the
> documents, such as what I have mentioned.
>
> Driving me nuts
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Raymond Camden
> Sent: Friday, 30 May 2008 11:17 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: verity quirks
>
>
> What type of search did you? basic, etc?
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I don't want to search for "vic"
>>
>> I want to search for "victoria" and its in the document.  There is
>> nothing else in the document that has the string "vic" in it so I am
>> wondering why it will find "vic" but not "victoria"
>>
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[cfaussie] Re: verity quirks

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

What type of search did you? basic, etc?

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> I don't want to search for "vic"
>
> I want to search for "victoria" and its in the document.  There is nothing
> else in the document that has the string "vic" in it so I am wondering why
> it will find "vic" but not "victoria"
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[cfaussie] Re: CFWINDOW question

2008-01-31 Thread Raymond Camden

CF makes it easy enough to do Ajax requests. Why not just make the
request, asynchronously, and then alert the user when done. That gives
you the same result basically - not slowing the user down while a slow
process works.

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> Dynamically
>
> The debug is coming from an included file and I cant use cfflush in it so am
> trying a few different ideas
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Andrew Scott
> Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2008 4:41 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFWINDOW question
>
>
> No... Is it dynamically loaded content or embedded in the template content?
>
>
>
> Andrew Scott
> Senior Coldfusion Developer
> Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
> www.aegeon.com.au
> Phone: +613  9015 8628
> Mobile: 0404 998 273
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Steve Onnis
> Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2008 4:38 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] CFWINDOW question
>
>
> Is it possible to use CFFLUSH when using CFWINDOW?
>
> I want some progress information to display inside the window but it seems
> to show the progress animation until the whole page has completed
>
> Steve
>
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[cfaussie] Re: blogging for "fun and profit" (BlogCFC Vs Wordpress)

2008-01-19 Thread Raymond Camden

I definitely want to ditto FeedBurner. It is a great tool. They also
do 'generic' blog stats as well as feed stats, so you can do it all
with them, but as Scott says, it doesn't hrt to have multiple sources.
All together I have FB for feed stats, FB for web stats, and Google
Analytics for web stats.

About the only thing I'm not sure I agree with is the 'feeds with full
articles' thing. My feeds are a mix of full articles and article
previews. Any long article is normally syndicated in a short form. I
think this helps keep the feed size down, and I think it helps drive
more traffic. I do seem to notice more hits for articles like that.

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>
> In my experience most of your reader share going to find you via other means
> than mostly Google (curious to see what others have found in this btw). My
> blog is in the top 5% of Microsoft blogs (fair whack of readers) and
> majority of my readership simply find me, add me to their RSS Reading agent
> of choice and leave it at that. The ones that don't are usually the ones
> that come from external linking and usually to throw some abuse / support my
> way on whatever today's topic is.
> The key to it is to ensure your blog RSS serves up the complete post from
> end to end. As you don't want to make them read "to get more" as that just
> ticks them off further and not only that i've found if you do, it reduces
> your chances of them "sharing" you around (sounds like a prison story).
>

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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-18 Thread Raymond Camden

Ugh. I swear I'm not this dumb. I forgot that I was hitting another
machine, so my "localhost" URLs won't work.

Dumb dumb. Sorry again.

On Jan 18, 2008 3:43 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dang, I was finally ready to post, now the code isn't working anymore.
> I just get an image expired error right out of the box. Want me to
> send you a copy Simon?
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 10:41 PM, Simon Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There is no need to call cfchart at all.  The important thing is letting
> > webcharts understand the connection between webcharts and CF server and
> > licence which is all done in that little snippet.
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-18 Thread Raymond Camden

Dang, I was finally ready to post, now the code isn't working anymore.
I just get an image expired error right out of the box. Want me to
send you a copy Simon?

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> There is no need to call cfchart at all.  The important thing is letting
> webcharts understand the connection between webcharts and CF server and
> licence which is all done in that little snippet.
>
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-18 Thread Raymond Camden

Actually, Charlie's article doesn't cover the fact that this route
lets you bypass the cfchart limitation. Charlie does link to this
article,

http://www.intersuite.com/client/index.cfm/2005/11/15/ColdFusion-Tip-Using-the-included-webcharts3d-engine-in-CFMX-7

which _does_ mention it, so I'll point folks here as well.

On Jan 18, 2008 12:32 AM, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I seem to recall that last time we discussed this, Charlie Arehart blogged
> it.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> http://learncf.com
>
>
>
>
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Simon Haddon
>  Sent: Friday, 18 January 2008 3:40 PM
>
>  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question
>
>
>
>
> Sure.  It would help the CF community.  Would be nice to have some
> recognition I guess.
>
>
> On 18/01/2008, Raymond Camden < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  I did a quick test - restarted CF, and your code works just fine w/o a
>  cfchart running at all.
>
>  So you cool with me blogging this?
>
>  On Jan 17, 2008 9:51 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Do you mean once per server, or request? Cuz it works fine alone on a
>  > page w/o a cfchart.
>  >
>  > On Jan 17, 2008 9:19 PM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > As I said in my post like 10 posts ago, it doesn't seem to work unless
> you
>  > > run the CFCHART tags first somewhere.  Its like the CCFCHART stuff
> loads
>  > > something else into the cfserver also
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > So try run a cfchart graph first and then this will run fine
>  > >
>  > >
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

I did a quick test - restarted CF, and your code works just fine w/o a
cfchart running at all.

So you cool with me blogging this?

On Jan 17, 2008 9:51 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you mean once per server, or request? Cuz it works fine alone on a
> page w/o a cfchart.
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 9:19 PM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > As I said in my post like 10 posts ago, it doesn't seem to work unless you
> > run the CFCHART tags first somewhere.  Its like the CCFCHART stuff loads
> > something else into the cfserver also
> >
> >
> > So try run a cfchart graph first and then this will run fine
> >
> >
>
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

Do you mean once per server, or request? Cuz it works fine alone on a
page w/o a cfchart.

On Jan 17, 2008 9:19 PM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As I said in my post like 10 posts ago, it doesn't seem to work unless you
> run the CFCHART tags first somewhere.  Its like the CCFCHART stuff loads
> something else into the cfserver also
>
>
> So try run a cfchart graph first and then this will run fine
>
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

Wow, it works in Flash too. Thank you SO much!

On Jan 17, 2008 9:02 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, sorry for all the emails. I now see I have to send to the code the
> proper URL that CF uses for stuff:
>
> http://localhost/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm?graphCache=wc50&graphID=
>
> And... I got a gauge chart!!
>
> Thanks guys. Do you mind if I blog this? I'll be sure to steal credit
> and pretend I discovered it myself.
>
> Also - is this only for PNG charts, not Flash charts?
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 8:56 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ok, so I got the code to run, and it created some HTML. But if I
> > display the HTML, it gives me a broken image. And what is the JS file
> > it is trying to load?
> >
> >   > SRC="http://localhost/529728614012.PNG";
> > id="Images_529728614012_PNG" name="Images_529728614012_PNG"
> > usemap="#Images_529728614012_PNG_map" border="0"/>  > cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1' style='visibility: hidden;display:
> > none; position:absolute;font-family: Arial;font-size: 13px;
> > font-weight:700;background:#00;foreground:#FF;color:#FF;-moz-opacity:.50;-opacity:.50;filter:alpha(opacity=50);border:1px
> > solid #FF;' name='GP1200624881598AAAB'
> > id='GP1200624881598AAAB'>  > name='Images_529728614012_PNG_map'>  > coords='0,0,1,1'/>  > coords="155,92,166,101,258,251,240,261,157,106"/>   > language="javascript" src="<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://localhost/script.js"">http://localhost/script.js"</a>;>
> >
> >
> > On Jan 17, 2008 8:54 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Ack, sorry, type is the image format. I'm still trying...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 17, 2008 8:53 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Scratch that. I think you meant for us to find the style based on the
> > > > chart type. Mine wasg auge.
> > > >
> > > > So get this. I try your code, and I get the same error I got with 
> > > > cfchart:
> > > >
> > > > Unsupported type: gauge
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 17, 2008 8:48 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I'm having issues duplicating this. I created a WCP file, saved it so
> > > > > CF can read it, and I noticed that my file has no  > > > > so the string funcs fail.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 17, 2008 7:26 PM, Simon Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is how we use webcharts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. We save the project (WCP file) in a folder accessible by the CF 
> > > > > > server.
> > > > > > We use to save just WC3D style sheet but realised that we could 
> > > > > > just grab
> > > > > > that from the WCP file at run time and saving one project file is 
> > > > > > easier to
> > > > > > maintain than 2 files for each chart.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Create the XML Style from the WCP project.  Could have parsed the
> > > > > > document into XML then then grabbed the frameChart element but this 
> > > > > > appeared
> > > > > > to be simplier and quicker. (example below)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  > > > > > findNoCase("
> > > > > >  > > > > > findNoCase("",sChartStyle)>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  > > > > > encoding="UTF-8"?>
> > > > > > #mid(sChartStyle,iStart,iEnd-iStart+13)#
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

Ok, sorry for all the emails. I now see I have to send to the code the
proper URL that CF uses for stuff:

http://localhost/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm?graphCache=wc50&graphID=

And... I got a gauge chart!!

Thanks guys. Do you mind if I blog this? I'll be sure to steal credit
and pretend I discovered it myself.

Also - is this only for PNG charts, not Flash charts?

On Jan 17, 2008 8:56 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, so I got the code to run, and it created some HTML. But if I
> display the HTML, it gives me a broken image. And what is the JS file
> it is trying to load?
>
>   SRC="http://localhost/529728614012.PNG";
> id="Images_529728614012_PNG" name="Images_529728614012_PNG"
> usemap="#Images_529728614012_PNG_map" border="0"/>  cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1' style='visibility: hidden;display:
> none; position:absolute;font-family: Arial;font-size: 13px;
> font-weight:700;background:#00;foreground:#FF;color:#FF;-moz-opacity:.50;-opacity:.50;filter:alpha(opacity=50);border:1px
> solid #FF;' name='GP1200624881598AAAB'
> id='GP1200624881598AAAB'>  name='Images_529728614012_PNG_map'>  coords='0,0,1,1'/>  coords="155,92,166,101,258,251,240,261,157,106"/>   language="javascript" src="<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://localhost/script.js"">http://localhost/script.js"</a>;>
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 8:54 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ack, sorry, type is the image format. I'm still trying...
> >
> >
> > On Jan 17, 2008 8:53 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Scratch that. I think you meant for us to find the style based on the
> > > chart type. Mine wasg auge.
> > >
> > > So get this. I try your code, and I get the same error I got with cfchart:
> > >
> > > Unsupported type: gauge
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 17, 2008 8:48 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I'm having issues duplicating this. I created a WCP file, saved it so
> > > > CF can read it, and I noticed that my file has no  > > > so the string funcs fail.
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 17, 2008 7:26 PM, Simon Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > This is how we use webcharts.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. We save the project (WCP file) in a folder accessible by the CF 
> > > > > server.
> > > > > We use to save just WC3D style sheet but realised that we could just 
> > > > > grab
> > > > > that from the WCP file at run time and saving one project file is 
> > > > > easier to
> > > > > maintain than 2 files for each chart.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Create the XML Style from the WCP project.  Could have parsed the
> > > > > document into XML then then grabbed the frameChart element but this 
> > > > > appeared
> > > > > to be simplier and quicker. (example below)
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >  > > > > findNoCase("
> > > > >  > > > > findNoCase("",sChartStyle)>
> > > > > 
> > > > >  > > > > encoding="UTF-8"?>
> > > > > #mid(sChartStyle,iStart,iEnd-iStart+13)#
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

Ok, so I got the code to run, and it created some HTML. But if I
display the HTML, it gives me a broken image. And what is the JS file
it is trying to load?

 http://localhost/529728614012.PNG";
id="Images_529728614012_PNG" name="Images_529728614012_PNG"
usemap="#Images_529728614012_PNG_map" border="0"/>  http://localhost/script.js"</a>;>

On Jan 17, 2008 8:54 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ack, sorry, type is the image format. I'm still trying...
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 8:53 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Scratch that. I think you meant for us to find the style based on the
> > chart type. Mine wasg auge.
> >
> > So get this. I try your code, and I get the same error I got with cfchart:
> >
> > Unsupported type: gauge
> >
> >
> > On Jan 17, 2008 8:48 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm having issues duplicating this. I created a WCP file, saved it so
> > > CF can read it, and I noticed that my file has no  > > so the string funcs fail.
> > >
> > > On Jan 17, 2008 7:26 PM, Simon Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > This is how we use webcharts.
> > > >
> > > > 1. We save the project (WCP file) in a folder accessible by the CF 
> > > > server.
> > > > We use to save just WC3D style sheet but realised that we could just 
> > > > grab
> > > > that from the WCP file at run time and saving one project file is 
> > > > easier to
> > > > maintain than 2 files for each chart.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Create the XML Style from the WCP project.  Could have parsed the
> > > > document into XML then then grabbed the frameChart element but this 
> > > > appeared
> > > > to be simplier and quicker. (example below)
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >     
> > > >  > > > findNoCase("
> > > >  > > > findNoCase("",sChartStyle)>
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > #mid(sChartStyle,iStart,iEnd-iStart+13)#
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

Ack, sorry, type is the image format. I'm still trying...

On Jan 17, 2008 8:53 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scratch that. I think you meant for us to find the style based on the
> chart type. Mine wasg auge.
>
> So get this. I try your code, and I get the same error I got with cfchart:
>
> Unsupported type: gauge
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 8:48 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm having issues duplicating this. I created a WCP file, saved it so
> > CF can read it, and I noticed that my file has no  > so the string funcs fail.
> >
> > On Jan 17, 2008 7:26 PM, Simon Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is how we use webcharts.
> > >
> > > 1. We save the project (WCP file) in a folder accessible by the CF server.
> > > We use to save just WC3D style sheet but realised that we could just grab
> > > that from the WCP file at run time and saving one project file is easier 
> > > to
> > > maintain than 2 files for each chart.
> > >
> > > 2. Create the XML Style from the WCP project.  Could have parsed the
> > > document into XML then then grabbed the frameChart element but this 
> > > appeared
> > > to be simplier and quicker. (example below)
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ",sChartStyle)>
> > >         
> > > 
> > > #mid(sChartStyle,iStart,iEnd-iStart+13)#
> > > 
> > > 
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

Scratch that. I think you meant for us to find the style based on the
chart type. Mine wasg auge.

So get this. I try your code, and I get the same error I got with cfchart:

Unsupported type: gauge

On Jan 17, 2008 8:48 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having issues duplicating this. I created a WCP file, saved it so
> CF can read it, and I noticed that my file has no  so the string funcs fail.
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 7:26 PM, Simon Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is how we use webcharts.
> >
> > 1. We save the project (WCP file) in a folder accessible by the CF server.
> > We use to save just WC3D style sheet but realised that we could just grab
> > that from the WCP file at run time and saving one project file is easier to
> > maintain than 2 files for each chart.
> >
> > 2. Create the XML Style from the WCP project.  Could have parsed the
> > document into XML then then grabbed the frameChart element but this appeared
> > to be simplier and quicker. (example below)
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > ",sChartStyle)>
> > 
> > 
> > #mid(sChartStyle,iStart,iEnd-iStart+13)#
> > 
> > 
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

I'm having issues duplicating this. I created a WCP file, saved it so
CF can read it, and I noticed that my file has no  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is how we use webcharts.
>
> 1. We save the project (WCP file) in a folder accessible by the CF server.
> We use to save just WC3D style sheet but realised that we could just grab
> that from the WCP file at run time and saving one project file is easier to
> maintain than 2 files for each chart.
>
> 2. Create the XML Style from the WCP project.  Could have parsed the
> document into XML then then grabbed the frameChart element but this appeared
> to be simplier and quicker. (example below)
>
> 
>
> 
> 
> ",sChartStyle)>
> 
> 
> #mid(sChartStyle,iStart,iEnd-iStart+13)#
> 
> 
>
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

Dale, as I was trying to make clear - I was aware of the GUI program,
but if you use the XML form them for something like the Gauge chart,
you get an error in cfchart. So you can't just take the XML all the
time and use it as is.

On Jan 17, 2008 5:40 PM, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes,
>
> It's a well known fact that you can design and use other chart types. The
> GUI program to do this is included with ColdFusion.
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

Wow. SO this is all very interesting. Just a few days ago a user
pinged me about Guage charts. I had saw that the webcharts editor had
it, but it didn't work in CF. Now I'm going to give it a go again.

On Jan 17, 2008 7:26 PM, Simon Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is how we use webcharts.
>
> 1. We save the project (WCP file) in a folder accessible by the CF server.
> We use to save just WC3D style sheet but realised that we could just grab
> that from the WCP file at run time and saving one project file is easier to
> maintain than 2 files for each chart.
>
> 2. Create the XML Style from the WCP project.  Could have parsed the
> document into XML then then grabbed the frameChart element but this appeared
> to be simplier and quicker. (example below)
>
> 
>
> 
> 
> ",sChartStyle)>
> 
> 
> #mid(sChartStyle,iStart,iEnd-iStart+13)#
> 
> 
>
> 3. Create the chart model XML (example below)
>
>  hint="Get chart model">
> 
>
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> Beef
> Sheep
> 1990
> 1991
> 1992
> 1993
> 1994
> 1995
> 1996
> 1997
> 1998
> 1999
> 2000
> 2001
> 2002
> 2003
> 2004
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 4.  Call the webcharts engine directly
> 
> oMyWebChart =
> createObject("Java","com.gp.api.jsp.MxServerComponent");
> oMyApp = getPageContext().getServletContext();
> oSvr = oMyWebChart.getDefaultInstance(oMyApp);
> oMyChart2 = oSvr.newImageSpec();
> oMyChart2.width = this.chartXSize;
> oMyChart2.height= this.chartYSize;
> oMyChart2.type = this.chartType;
> oMyChart2.style = "#chartStyle#";
> oMyChart2.model = "#chartModel#";
> 
> 
> 
>
> #oSvr.getImageTag(oMyChart2,"#this.analURL#")#
>
> 
> replace(chartImgTag,"#this.analURL#Images/","#this.analURL#","All")>
>
> 5.  Use the resultant HTML in your web page.
>
>
> So there is probably some errors in the code presented here as I have just
> cut and past from our analysis engine but it will work with a little
> tweeking.
>
> Hope it helps.
>
> Simon Haddon
>
>
>
>
> On 18/01/2008, Simon Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes. You can bypass the limitations with the XML and a little Java.  Or
> you can bypass by using all Java.  In the Webcharts3D designer you can cut /
> paste / modify the generated Java to use or you can use the XML and hook
> directly into the charts engine.  Entierh way you totally bypass any
> limitation presented by the cfcharts tags.  This is how we generate our
> graphs for exactly that reason
> >
> > I will find the examples and attach them in a short while
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Simon
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18/01/2008, Raymond Camden < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > So wait - you mean using the Java engine from CF, right? Because even
> > > if you use the XML approach, taking the XML from the designer tool,
> > > the limitations apply.
> > >
> > > Are you saying that a CFer could bypass these limitations?
> > >
> > > On Jan 17, 2008 3:10 PM, Simon Haddon < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > You are right if you are using the CF tags but what Steve is talking
> about
> > > > is accessing the Webcharts3D engine directly.  This allows you to
> access the
> > > > styles that are available in the designer with no limitations that I
> have
> > > > come across yet.
> > > >
> > > > You just have to approach the charting system differently using the
> xml or
> > > > java code directly.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Simon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 18/01/2008, Raymond Camden < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Just don't forget that the Chart Editor supports chart types that CF
> > > > > doesn't - like the guages.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 17, 2008 5:00 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > &g

[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

So wait - you mean using the Java engine from CF, right? Because even
if you use the XML approach, taking the XML from the designer tool,
the limitations apply.

Are you saying that a CFer could bypass these limitations?

On Jan 17, 2008 3:10 PM, Simon Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are right if you are using the CF tags but what Steve is talking about
> is accessing the Webcharts3D engine directly.  This allows you to access the
> styles that are available in the designer with no limitations that I have
> come across yet.
>
> You just have to approach the charting system differently using the xml or
> java code directly.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon
>
>
>
> On 18/01/2008, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Just don't forget that the Chart Editor supports chart types that CF
> > doesn't - like the guages.
> >
> > On Jan 17, 2008 5:00 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Would love some.  As i said i cant seem to find the import path so any
> help
> > > would be greatJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > > Of Simon Haddon
> > >  Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2008 9:32 PM
> > >  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > >  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Absolutely.  You can use the webcharts3D package to build the XML for
> you
> > > then use it directly or you can open up the java objects.  However the
> > > easiest way is to use the XML directly .  That way you can just cut and
> past
> > > a new XML format document in when required.
> > >
> > >  If you want some sample code I can give it to you tomorrow.
> > >
> > >  Cheers,
> > >  Simon
> > >
> > >
> > > On 17/01/2008, Steve Onnis < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if you can access the underlying chart functions like
> they
> > > show you in the webCharts builder?
> > >
> > > for example they show this is a way to access it using JSP
> > >
> > > <%@ taglib prefix="ct" uri="/WEB-INF/wc3d50.tld" %>
> > >   > > getImageURL="/getImage.jsp"
> > >  style="   yDepth=\"1\"
> > > leftAxisPlacement=\"Back\">  
> > >   > > style=\"DateTimePattern\" pattern=\"-mm-dd\"/>  > > pattern=\"#,##0.###\"/>  
> > >  > > showMarkers=\"false\">  
> "
> > >  >
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  2006-12-01
> > >  2006-12-06
> > >  2006-12-11
> > >  2006-12-18
> > >  2006-12-25
> > >  2007-01-02
> > >   > > col5="400.0">Sample 0:
> > >   > > col5="420.0">Sample 1:
> > >  
> > >  
> > >
> > > Can this be converted to CFML? I tried to convert the import to a
> CFIMPORT
> > > but didnt work
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve Onnis
> > > Director / Head Developer
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  --
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> > >  Simon Haddon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  >
> > >
> >
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question

2008-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden

Just don't forget that the Chart Editor supports chart types that CF
doesn't - like the guages.

On Jan 17, 2008 5:00 AM, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Would love some.  As i said i cant seem to find the import path so any help
> would be greatJ
>
>
>
> steve
>
>
>
>
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Simon Haddon
>  Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2008 9:32 PM
>  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCHART question
>
>
>
>
>
> Absolutely.  You can use the webcharts3D package to build the XML for you
> then use it directly or you can open up the java objects.  However the
> easiest way is to use the XML directly .  That way you can just cut and past
> a new XML format document in when required.
>
>  If you want some sample code I can give it to you tomorrow.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Simon
>
>
> On 17/01/2008, Steve Onnis < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know if you can access the underlying chart functions like they
> show you in the webCharts builder?
>
> for example they show this is a way to access it using JSP
>
> <%@ taglib prefix="ct" uri="/WEB-INF/wc3d50.tld" %>
>   getImageURL="/getImage.jsp"
>  style="   leftAxisPlacement=\"Back\">  
>   style=\"DateTimePattern\" pattern=\"-mm-dd\"/>  pattern=\"#,##0.###\"/>  
>  showMarkers=\"false\">   "
>  >
>  
>  
>  2006-12-01
>  2006-12-06
>  2006-12-11
>  2006-12-18
>  2006-12-25
>  2007-01-02
>   col5="400.0">Sample 0:
>   col5="420.0">Sample 1:
>  
>  
>
> Can this be converted to CFML? I tried to convert the import to a CFIMPORT
> but didnt work
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Onnis
> Director / Head Developer
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Australia : 1300 856 623
>  International : +61 3 9882 5875
>
> 0401 667 996
>
> www.inevative.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
>  Cheers
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>
>
>
>  >
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[cfaussie] Re: blogging for "fun and profit" (BlogCFC Vs Wordpress)

2008-01-15 Thread Raymond Camden

Just in case you didn't know, BlogCFC has support for Google Sitemaps
built in. Has for a while. :)

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>
> many thanx Taco.
>
> this is exactly what I'm hearing from Marketing.
>
> but how does this happen and how can it be countered? Perhaps the
> Google sitemaps generator plugin for Wordpress helps there?
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[cfaussie] Re: should DateFormat() be depricated (in favour ofLSDateFormat())?

2008-01-09 Thread Raymond Camden

Sorry - I meant Tom Jordhal, Harwood was another old timer who is
long, long gone.

On Jan 9, 2008 9:14 AM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wouldn't assume there was a reason. It sounds like you want to know
> why Adobe did it, and you will probably never find out why. Shoot, the
> guys who did it were back in the Allaire days, and most of the old CF
> coders are gone now. Even me (I worked on the structSort function
> believe it or not).
>
> It _would_ be kind of cool if we could get a hold of one of the
> engineers who was around in the old days (like I said, only 1 or 2
> still exist, like Tom Harwood) and interview them about some of the
> thought processes behind how stuff was done.
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2008 1:41 AM, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I think a few of you are missing what I am trying to say.
> >
> > I am still trying to confirm this 100%, but so far I have looked at
> > the code and found that the code is in fact identical in both
> > DateFormat() & LSDateFormat(). The only difference that I can see is
> > that LSDateFormat has a wrapper to the main code to use local, then
> > calles DateFormat().
> >
>
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[cfaussie] Re: should DateFormat() be depricated (in favour ofLSDateFormat())?

2008-01-09 Thread Raymond Camden

I wouldn't assume there was a reason. It sounds like you want to know
why Adobe did it, and you will probably never find out why. Shoot, the
guys who did it were back in the Allaire days, and most of the old CF
coders are gone now. Even me (I worked on the structSort function
believe it or not).

It _would_ be kind of cool if we could get a hold of one of the
engineers who was around in the old days (like I said, only 1 or 2
still exist, like Tom Harwood) and interview them about some of the
thought processes behind how stuff was done.


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> I think a few of you are missing what I am trying to say.
>
> I am still trying to confirm this 100%, but so far I have looked at
> the code and found that the code is in fact identical in both
> DateFormat() & LSDateFormat(). The only difference that I can see is
> that LSDateFormat has a wrapper to the main code to use local, then
> calles DateFormat().
>

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[cfaussie] Re: should DateFormat() be depricated (in favour ofLSDateFormat())?

2008-01-08 Thread Raymond Camden

On Jan 8, 2008 4:50 PM, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree with what you have stated, but it would have been better to enhance
> one function than create a separate one, just my opinion that's all and they
> have alpha and beta testers that can check for breakage.
>

Heh, they can have 1000 alpha testers, and that's still a drop in the
bucket to the _millions_ of lines of code out there. Trust me - the
backwards compat thing bugs me too, but I can definitely understand
Adobe's position here.

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[cfaussie] Re: should DateFormat() be depricated (in favour ofLSDateFormat())?

2008-01-08 Thread Raymond Camden

Andrew, consider the fact that while you are a Software Engineer, you
need to look at Adobe, and CFML, as a Vendor. They cannot afford to
willy nilly break backwards compat. You have no idea how many lines of
code out there use stuff like parameterExists. Yes - the language
would be 'nicer' without deprecated tags, but you need to look at this
from Adobe's view.

On Jan 7, 2008 4:58 PM, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyway, I speak from a Software Engineer point of view and I do not see any
> reason for 2 functions that technically do the same thing.
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[cfaussie] Re: should DateFormat() be depricated (in favour of LSDateFormat())?

2008-01-07 Thread Raymond Camden

setLocale isn't server wide, not even application wide. It is request
based. If you want it app wide, you need to add it to
onRequestStart().

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>
> I'd really like to keep this going but I'm confused about who is
> talking to who :(
>
> @Andrew I don't agree it's a hack, I could accept that it's a necessary evil.
>
> @hakal I totally agree that date strings are evil and probably at the
> heart of the problems.
>
> Someone mentioned using setlocale()... Feel free to correct me, but
> isn't that a server wide function? Changing the locale this way
> *could* cause problems to other apps. It'd be nice if it was an
> application property instead.
>

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[cfaussie] Re: CFINDEX document titles

2007-10-26 Thread Raymond Camden

Um - did you see my reply yesterday? I suggested following up the
initial index with another one to set the titles.

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>
> anyone?
>
>  
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> To:  cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] CFINDEX document  titles
>
>
>
>
> Anyone  know if you can force a document title in an index?  I am indexing 
> PDFs and  i want to define the title regardless of if the pdf has a title or 
> not.   The docs say its "optional" and "Provides a title for the document if 
> one cannot  be extracted from the document." but i want to define it 
> regardless with my own  value using the title attribute of the tag.
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Onnis
> Director / Head Developer
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[cfaussie] Re: CFINDEX document titles

2007-10-25 Thread Raymond Camden
I don't believe you can when Verity is doing file based indexing. BUT - you
could do an update to the index after the initial index.

On 10/25/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  Anyone know if you can force a document title in an index?  I am indexing
> PDFs and i want to define the title regardless of if the pdf has a title or
> not.  The docs say its "optional" and "Provides a title for the document if
> one cannot be extracted from the document." but i want to define it
> regardless with my own value using the title attribute of the tag.
>
>
>
> Steve Onnis Director / Head Developer
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>  <http://www.novahost.com.au> <http://www.threesquares.com.au>
> <http://www.smsonline.com.au>
>
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfire 1.0 Release

2007-09-26 Thread Raymond Camden

Just in case folks don't know the url:

http://coldfire.riaforge.org

On 9/26/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
>
> As an evangelist to Firebug for Firefox, I am pleased that one of my wish
> lists for Coldfire has been implemented. I could not be happy with this
> level of information, doesn't bet the line debugger but can be first port of
> call before doing a line debug.
>
>
>
> Just an FYI that I love these 2 products.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Andrew Scott
>  Senior Coldfusion Developer
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[cfaussie] Re: Cannot find key in struct.

2007-09-19 Thread Raymond Camden

Hey Mark - this is pretty interesting. This is the first time I've
used a real use for structFind. Do you mind if I blog this? Or if you
do - let me know and Ill link to it.


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> I use StructFind() a lot - simply because I tend to encapsulate
> struct's behind getter's and setters quite regualrly.
>
> So Inside a CFC you would find me writing:
>
> 
>
> As ColdFusion doesn't support syntax like:
>
> 
>
> Mark
>
> On 9/19/07, Adam Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > If you try and output "struct[key]" and the key doesn't exists that it 
> > > will
> > > error
> >
> > Sure.  As with structFind().
> >
> > Hence my question.
> >
> >
> > > I think maybe you have confused the meaning of your message :)
> >
> > Maybe.  Or maybe... not.
> >
> > --
> > Adam
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> W: www.compoundtheory.com
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> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Cannot find key in struct.

2007-09-18 Thread Raymond Camden

structKeyExists should be used to determine if a struct has a key.

structFind determines if there is a value for a key in a struct. And
it does NOT have much use IMHO.


On 9/18/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> structFind is used to determine is a structure has a key
>
> If you try and output "struct[key]" and the key doesn't exists that it will
> error
>
> I think maybe you have confused the meaning of your message :)
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: cfaussie
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Cannot find key in struct.
>
>
> Hi Chris
> I've never quite understood why people use:
>
> structFind(struct, key)
>
> instead of just
>
> struct[key]
>
> ?
>
> I'm not sure if this would have any bearing on your issue, but it might be
> interesting to see the difference in behaviour.
>
> --
> Adam
>
>
>
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>
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] red balloon guys

2007-09-13 Thread Raymond Camden

The guys behind red balloon are on this list - right? If so - can you
email me directly please.

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[cfaussie] Re: learncf.com is Coming!

2007-08-30 Thread Raymond Camden

Heh, well, I still think it is a community site - it is just an
_edited_ community site. ;) One reason it has editorial approval is
that, like CFLib, the idea wasn't to provide 10 solutions for a task,
but one "best" solution. (And of course we all know 'best' is a matter
of opinion, but if you look at most cookbooks I think you will see one
main solution provided to a problem. And CFlib does have a few dupes
in it -mainly because it is a bit hard to keep track of 1000 udfs. ;)


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> Thanks, I'm not looking to rectify it. I'm just talking :)
>
> I think you should be protective of your site, it's a 'Ray Camden'
> site, complete with personal service. It's not necessarily a
> 'communal' site, right...? (no harm intended)

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[cfaussie] Re: learncf.com is Coming!

2007-08-30 Thread Raymond Camden

I do vet the entries - please feel free to resubmit to me directly
([EMAIL PROTECTED]). That isn't a promise to publish it - but a
promise that I'll give it a look.

I will admit to being a bit protective about my sites and that DOES
limit things. Maybe I need to trust my common man more. ;)

On 8/30/07, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I should try to avoid being so emotive. Although I am
> passionate about my CF :)
>
> Um, from memory I may have submitted some stuff to the site and as far
> as I know it never appeared. If it did appear that's great too.
> Although I only checked a few times and then forgot about it ;)
>
> It's totally cool. My stuff was basic and boring, but I enjoyed the
> exercise. I understand you were vetting the contributions - it's just
> a bit 'closed circle'.
> My point was that a collaborative platform of sorts is perhaps more
> open and allows more people to contribute, good, bad or otherwise.
>
> Where is that email of Charlie's... *looking*
>
> On 8/31/07, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Can you speak a bit more about how you were "heart broken" by cfcookbook?
> >
> > On 8/30/07, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Barry, bad press, huuh? Okay I just need to say I wasn't having a go
> > > at Dale. 'mozz' is aussie, right. Was trying to be funny.
> > >
> > > I don't know about Ante's but in general I do believe in CF and the
> > > more sites the more people the better :)
> > >
> > > To be clear - you've got my support, and I'm not a 'knocker'. I do try
> > > to contribute too and I'm offering to do more if I can.
> > >
> > > I might be reluctant to pot anything to learncf... I've already been
> > > heart broken by coldfusioncookbook.com :( Charlie made a good point
> > > and suggested some good ideas (on another thread). He seemed to be
> > > thinking more collaboratively (2.0?) about how the community could
> > > share and relate all the CF stuff out there. It seemed to slip though
> > > to the keeper, but I found it interesting. Dare I say that the
> > > traditional 'submit your stuff to my site' approach doesn't lend
> > > itself to collaboration or alow for transparent moderating or
> > > whatever.
> > >
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[cfaussie] Re: learncf.com is Coming!

2007-08-30 Thread Raymond Camden

Can you speak a bit more about how you were "heart broken" by cfcookbook?

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> Barry, bad press, huuh? Okay I just need to say I wasn't having a go
> at Dale. 'mozz' is aussie, right. Was trying to be funny.
>
> I don't know about Ante's but in general I do believe in CF and the
> more sites the more people the better :)
>
> To be clear - you've got my support, and I'm not a 'knocker'. I do try
> to contribute too and I'm offering to do more if I can.
>
> I might be reluctant to pot anything to learncf... I've already been
> heart broken by coldfusioncookbook.com :( Charlie made a good point
> and suggested some good ideas (on another thread). He seemed to be
> thinking more collaboratively (2.0?) about how the community could
> share and relate all the CF stuff out there. It seemed to slip though
> to the keeper, but I found it interesting. Dare I say that the
> traditional 'submit your stuff to my site' approach doesn't lend
> itself to collaboration or alow for transparent moderating or
> whatever.
>

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[cfaussie] Re: learncf.com is Coming!

2007-08-28 Thread Raymond Camden

To be anal - the function returns a structure. It also contains the
total # of rows I believe. I'm just warning folks in case they try to
use it w/ returntype="query".

On 8/27/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> I think perhaps you don't understand the following line
>
> 
>
>
>
> According to the docs
>
>
> Converts query data to a structure that contains a paged subset of the
> query. Used in CFC functions that return data to Ajax format cfgrid controls
> in response to a bind
>
> Expression.

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[cfaussie] Re: Any way to get a list of all cftags?

2007-08-27 Thread Raymond Camden

In case people do doubt Charlie, I'll back him up here. I used this
method myself in a few apps myself, even the old Spectra.

On 8/27/07, Charlie Arehart (lists account) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'll throw out that for the same reason, it wouldn't have worked if one
> tried to say "if running cf8, do cfdbinfo, else do whatever". That, too,
> would fail on other than CF8 because the appearance of the CFDBINFO in the
> page would trigger the compile error.
>
> I'll share a trick I figured out when needing to do things like this in my
> former life with New Atlanta: you could do "if running cf8, cfinclude file
> to do cfdbinfo, else do whatever".

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[cfaussie] Re: learncf.com is Coming!

2007-08-27 Thread Raymond Camden

It's odd you would say that. < and > only work in cfscript. Thats a
minor change - but does show that the feature isn't dead. I think the
people you are trying to help would benefit from being exposed to both
since they will be exposed to both in the real world.


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> I also feel that they are not continuing the development of CFSCRIPT making
> it a good candidate to become depreciated.

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[cfaussie] Re: Request for content

2007-08-23 Thread Raymond Camden

Trust - I didn't take offense. I'll take it as a personal challenge to
ensure I always try to provide demos where appropriate.

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>
> I don't think there is any assertion against ray.
>
> I actually said that Ray particularly does lots of great tutorials. His
> would have to be my Favourite CF Blog, he does so much stuff I actually
> wonder if he has a job.
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[cfaussie] Re: Request for content

2007-08-22 Thread Raymond Camden

Actually, I tend to have a working example of everything. :) (I try to
anyway. ;)

On 8/22/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I need to get this out soon.
>
> Ray especially, but others like Ben, Charlie, Sean and Others do great
> tutorials, the problem with them is.
>
> 1. They are all over the place (ie different blogs)
> 2. They are not categorised easily (ie show me all cfgrid tutorials)
> 3. They do generally NOT have working examples.
> 4. You generally can not download all necessary code and assets in a
> single zip.
>
> Number 3. is my pet hate, you look at a cool new tutorial from Ray
> think that sounds good, but you cant see what it looks like without
> putting the code on a CF server somewhere.

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[cfaussie] Re: Request for content

2007-08-21 Thread Raymond Camden

You cna also use the OPML feed at coldfusionbloggers.org. This has a
list of all the feeds we aggregate.

On 8/20/07, Rod Higgins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If anyone out there has a coldfusion blog or a favourite cold fusion
> resource we would love to know. We are currently putting together the
> content for www.bmug.org.au and need to add in as many CF blogs, resources,
> etc we can find. Please send through any CF related content references to
> daniel.bartleywebdaemon.com.au. Daniel will be collating the links and
> will require the URL, a description and the author (if known).
>
> Cheers.
>  >
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[cfaussie] Re: cfsetting enablecfoutputonly not working

2007-08-19 Thread Raymond Camden

Most of the time problems with cfsetting involve stacking.
cfsetting/cfoutputonly (if folks dont mind, I'll call it cfsetting
only for now on, even though cfsetting does other things) is NOT a
flag. It is a stack. What do I mean by that? If you use the tag twice
to enable the setting, and then do it ONCE to turn it off - guess what
- it is still enabled. To disable it you would need to do it twice.

On 8/18/07, Simon Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At a first guess I would say you are using cfinclude between a start end
> cfoutput tag.  ie:
>
> 
>
> Do that appears to override any cfoutputonly directive.  In fact it is one
> thing that annoys me about fusebox and the first thing I cnage when using a
> new version is to comment ou the cfoutput tags surrounding the cfinclude
> tag.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon
>
>
> On 18/08/07, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm having some issues with cfsetting, hoping someone can enlighten me.
> > I have the following in onRequestStart
> >
> >  >   name="onRequestStart"
> >   output="false"
> >   returntype="void">
> >
> >   
> >  
> >
> > Then in one of the pages I have the following code
> >
> > <cfsavecontent
> variable="inlineJavaScript"><cfoutput>
> > function togglePostcode() {
> >  var liPostcode = document.getElementById( 'li-postcode' );
> >  var liState = document.getElementById ( 'li-state' );
> >
> >  if ( liState.style.display == 'none' || liState.style.display == '' ) {
> >   liState.style.display = 'block';
> >   liPostcode.style.display = 'none';
> >  } else {
> >   liState.style.display = 'none';
> >   liPostcode.style.display = 'block';
> >  }
> > }
> > </cfoutput></cfsavecontent>
> > 
> > I have the script tag around it all so I can the nice colour coding in
> dreamweaver, I'm expecting it not to output the  tags, but
> it does! Even though they are outside  tags.
> > I've done a search, and there is only one cfsetting tag in the app,
> anybody any idea why it is still outputting stuff outside output tags?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Code Highlighting

2007-08-03 Thread Raymond Camden

Btw - I did think the color coding you see in use at RIAForge would be
used in BlogCFC, and it was in my blog for a while,. but it was a bit
buggy sometimes with CF code.

On 8/3/07, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nope, he isn't on the book.
>
> On 8/3/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Actually,
> >
> > He was a contributor to Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Application Development.
> >
> > Is he still in CF land, perhaps helping with some CF8 titles?
> >
> > Regards
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of Raymond Camden
> > Sent: Friday, 3 August 2007 12:59 PM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Code Highlighting
> >
> >
> > Just as a warning, the code there is pretty old. I never was able to
> > find the original developer, he seems to have dropped off the planet.
> > I'd love to try something new.
> >
> > On 8/2/07, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > The whole of blogCFC is released under the apache license, so you can
> > > pinch away. You can read the T&C on the site.
> > >
> > > Dale Fraser wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes,
> > > >
> > > > I realise that, but I want to use it. I'm not sure if Ray wrote it or
> > > > just uses it, i'm pretty sure I cant just pinch it out of Blog CFC, Id
> > > > rather find the developer and check the licence.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Dale Fraser
> > > >
> > > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > > *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > *On Behalf Of *Haikal Saadh
> > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 2 August 2007 7:00 PM
> > > > *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > > > *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Code Highlighting
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You just answered you own question: http://blogcfc.riaforge.org/
> > > >
> > > > Dale Fraser wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Taco,
> > > >
> > > > But I'm referring to the *type of thing that Blog CFC does*, formats
> > > > and color codes CF code, there is probably a legitimate source for
> > > > this somewhere.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Dale Fraser
> > > >
> > > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ===
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> >
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> >
> > > >
> >
>
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[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Code Highlighting

2007-08-03 Thread Raymond Camden

Nope, he isn't on the book.

On 8/3/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Actually,
>
> He was a contributor to Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Application Development.
>
> Is he still in CF land, perhaps helping with some CF8 titles?
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Raymond Camden
> Sent: Friday, 3 August 2007 12:59 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Code Highlighting
>
>
> Just as a warning, the code there is pretty old. I never was able to
> find the original developer, he seems to have dropped off the planet.
> I'd love to try something new.
>
> On 8/2/07, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The whole of blogCFC is released under the apache license, so you can
> > pinch away. You can read the T&C on the site.
> >
> > Dale Fraser wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes,
> > >
> > > I realise that, but I want to use it. I'm not sure if Ray wrote it or
> > > just uses it, i'm pretty sure I cant just pinch it out of Blog CFC, Id
> > > rather find the developer and check the licence.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Dale Fraser
> > >
> > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > *On Behalf Of *Haikal Saadh
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, 2 August 2007 7:00 PM
> > > *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > > *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Code Highlighting
> > >
> > >
> > > You just answered you own question: http://blogcfc.riaforge.org/
> > >
> > > Dale Fraser wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Taco,
> > >
> > > But I'm referring to the *type of thing that Blog CFC does*, formats
> > > and color codes CF code, there is probably a legitimate source for
> > > this somewhere.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Dale Fraser
> > >
> > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
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>
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[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Code Highlighting

2007-08-02 Thread Raymond Camden

Just as a warning, the code there is pretty old. I never was able to
find the original developer, he seems to have dropped off the planet.
I'd love to try something new.

On 8/2/07, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The whole of blogCFC is released under the apache license, so you can
> pinch away. You can read the T&C on the site.
>
> Dale Fraser wrote:
> >
> > Yes,
> >
> > I realise that, but I want to use it. I'm not sure if Ray wrote it or
> > just uses it, i'm pretty sure I cant just pinch it out of Blog CFC, Id
> > rather find the developer and check the licence.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> > *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *On Behalf Of *Haikal Saadh
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 2 August 2007 7:00 PM
> > *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Code Highlighting
> >
> >
> > You just answered you own question: http://blogcfc.riaforge.org/
> >
> > Dale Fraser wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Taco,
> >
> > But I'm referring to the *type of thing that Blog CFC does*, formats
> > and color codes CF code, there is probably a legitimate source for
> > this somewhere.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
>
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] Re: This should be easy:-)

2007-07-24 Thread Raymond Camden

Nope.

On 7/24/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone know if CF8 can handle this expression?
>
> 
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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books

2007-07-22 Thread Raymond Camden

Weird. Ok - so let me get back to mucking up coldfusionbloggers.org
with a new update.

On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Have no idea,
>
> I don't think people do, just Peter Tilbrook :)
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Raymond Camden
> Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 1:15 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
>
>
> Wait - so I did miss out - but people insure books? For what?
>
> On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Guys!
> >
> > Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content.
> >
> > If you read my comment it said "Besides the CF8 ones, the others are
> > worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with
> > the insurance."
> >
> > I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I
> don't
> > think they are worth insuring.
> > Regards
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of Raymond Camden
> > Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
> >
> >
> > Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well
> > done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well.
> > I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors,
> > but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless.
> >
> > I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as
> well.
> >
> > On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble
> giving
> > > them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Dale Fraser
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Peter Tilbrook
> > >  Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM
> > >  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > >  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I actually bought a copy of Forta's "Advanced CF 7" from McGills a few
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > months ago. maybe it was the last one.  Actually I haven't used it
> > >  > much, its just not "Advanced" enough, it more of a beginner's or
> maybe
> > >  > intermediate book if you ask me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and
> > improving
> > > at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to
> > create.
> > >
> > >  History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up
> > > there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold
> > > several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version
> will
> > > do better again.
> > >
> > >  Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very
> > > conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about
> > $3,120.00.
> > > I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic
> > > (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a
> massive
> > > $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the
> user
> > > group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need
> > to
> > > update my contents insurance in case of a disaster.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  >
> > >
> >
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books

2007-07-22 Thread Raymond Camden

Wait - so I did miss out - but people insure books? For what?

On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Guys!
>
> Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content.
>
> If you read my comment it said "Besides the CF8 ones, the others are
> worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with
> the insurance."
>
> I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't
> think they are worth insuring.
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Raymond Camden
> Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
>
>
> Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well
> done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well.
> I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors,
> but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless.
>
> I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well.
>
> On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> >
> >
> > Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving
> > them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> >
> >
> > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of Peter Tilbrook
> >  Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM
> >  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I actually bought a copy of Forta's "Advanced CF 7" from McGills a few
> >
> >
> >
> > > months ago. maybe it was the last one.  Actually I haven't used it
> >  > much, its just not "Advanced" enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe
> >  > intermediate book if you ask me.
> >
> >
> >
> >  ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and
> improving
> > at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to
> create.
> >
> >  History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up
> > there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold
> > several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will
> > do better again.
> >
> >  Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very
> > conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about
> $3,120.00.
> > I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic
> > (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive
> > $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user
> > group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need
> to
> > update my contents insurance in case of a disaster.
> >
> >
> >
> >  >
> >
>
>
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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books

2007-07-22 Thread Raymond Camden

Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well
done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well.
I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors,
but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless.

I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well.

On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Peter,
>
>
>
> Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving
> them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Peter Tilbrook
>  Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM
>  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
>
>
>
>
> > I actually bought a copy of Forta's "Advanced CF 7" from McGills a few
>
>
>
> > months ago. maybe it was the last one.  Actually I haven't used it
>  > much, its just not "Advanced" enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe
>  > intermediate book if you ask me.
>
>
>
>  ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving
> at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create.
>
>  History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up
> there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold
> several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will
> do better again.
>
>  Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very
> conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00.
> I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic
> (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive
> $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user
> group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to
> update my contents insurance in case of a disaster.
>
>
>
>  >
>


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[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books

2007-07-21 Thread Raymond Camden

Just a friendly reminder, it is

Forta, et all

Or however it is said. Lots of people work on the CFWACK series (including me :)

On 7/18/07, Stephen M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I actually bought a copy of Forta's "Advanced CF 7" from McGills a few
> months ago. maybe it was the last one.  Actually I haven't used it
> much, its just not "Advanced" enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe
> intermediate book if you ask me.
>
> I also got a couple of CSS books from there which have been OK.  But I
> do think that Amazon and eBay have proved to be too much competition
> for these highly specialised books.  I can understand why "The
> Technical Bookshop" went out of business.
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
> On Jul 18, 3:29 pm, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Those were the first 2 I went to. A&R was were I went 9 months ago and
> > thought their selection was good but now it's disimal (especially
> > because half the section is taken up selling old IT books on sale -
> > whats the point?)! McGills has the best computer section out of the 5
> > I went to however no CF.
> >
> > If you go at the weekend and discover I'm wrong please let me know
> > that I'm blind!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Matthew
> >
> > On Jul 18, 3:19 pm, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Mathew,
> >
> > > There are 2 very good book stores in the CBD, Angus and Robertson and
> > > McGills both with 2 doors of each other. I haven't been to either for a 
> > > few
> > > years, but both have separate areas for Computer related books. McGills is
> > > upstairs and is huge, and A&R is on the corner virtually next door from
> > > memory and that shop was 100% computer books.
> >
> > > I would be disappointed if this is no longer the case, I was planning to
> > > head in there this weekend.
> >
> > > Andrew Scott
> > > Senior Coldfusion Developer
> > > Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au
> > > Phone: +613  8676 4223
> > > Mobile: 0404 998 273
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> >
> > > Of Matthew
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM
> > > To: cfaussie
> > > Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books
> >
> > > Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in
> > > Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past
> > > few days in search of "Ben Forta's Advance CF..." (or any CF book) but
> > > can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop
> > > "computer" sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year
> > > - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was
> > > twice as big!
> >
> > > Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon
> > > realised that a book won't make you an expert in months!
> >
> > > Apologies if this is off-topic.
> > > Cheers
>
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] Re: CF8 Release Date Rumor

2007-07-17 Thread Raymond Camden

It will be 3 books.

On 7/17/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the closed GMC (Gold Media Candidate) is any indication I am thinking
> August. That would be for electronic purchase/download as it would take a
> while to master the DVD's and manuals. Expect another huge hit with Ben
> Forta's (et al) CFWACK - expected to be at least two tomes as the language
> has grown so much over the years.
>
>
>
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[cfaussie] Re: column order

2007-07-04 Thread Raymond Camden

I don't know. I can say that it isn't important, not to WDDX I mean.
The order of columns in a query, or keys in a struct, are not relevant
to the data structure. It may be important to you, but it isn't part
of the 'concept' of query or struct. If you need the order, keep it
elsewhere. For example, store the  query in mystruct.data, and your
preferred column list order in mystruct.mycolumnlist.

On 7/3/07, Mark Ireland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Yes Ray, I do mean cfquery.columnList
>
> As a temp fix I am passing a list of column names in the order I want. Its
> for a YUI datatable.
>
> So how is column order preserved in a wddxPacket?
>
> >From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: [cfaussie] Re: column order
> >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:01:27 -0500
> >
> >
> >What do you mean by column order not in cfquery? Do you mean
> >cfquery.columnList?
> >
> >On 6/27/07, Mark Ireland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > How can I work out how it is that the column order is preserved in a
> > > wddxPacket and not in a cfquery?
> > >
> > >  >output="wddxQueryOutput">
> > >  > >
> >recordsetElem=xmlsearch(xmlparse(wddxQueryOutput),"/wddxPacket/data/recordset")>
> > > 
> > >
> > > _
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> > >
> > > >
> > >
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[cfaussie] Re: column order

2007-06-29 Thread Raymond Camden

What do you mean by column order not in cfquery? Do you mean cfquery.columnList?

On 6/27/07, Mark Ireland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> How can I work out how it is that the column order is preserved in a
> wddxPacket and not in a cfquery?
>
> 
>  recordsetElem=xmlsearch(xmlparse(wddxQueryOutput),"/wddxPacket/data/recordset")>
> 
>
> _
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[cfaussie] Re: Hacker attack closes major (ColdFusion powered) tourism website

2007-06-25 Thread Raymond Camden

I wonder if it is this site:

http://www.discovertasmania.com.au

Which I was able to "break" in 30 seconds:

http://www.discovertasmania.com.au/home/index.cfm?SiteID=89aalalal

Geeze - it should be against the law to deploy a site w/o an error
checker. (Not that I've ever done that. Ahem)

On 6/25/07, ACTCFUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tourism Tasmania's website had to be closed for a day after a hacker's
> tag was found on one of the pages.
>
> More at:
>
> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21965355-2,00.html
>
>
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Verity indexing documents

2007-06-25 Thread Raymond Camden
I do not believe so. But - you could obviously do the indexing yourself and
provide a summary in one of the four custom columns.

On 6/21/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Is there any way to control what verity uses for the summary value when
> indexing documents?  I am indexing some pdf documents and the summary is
> coming from some obscure location on the second page of the document and
> doesn't really give a good summary of the file.
>
> Steve Onnis Director / Head Developer
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> +61 3 9001 2258
>
> 0401 667 996
>
> www.inevative.com.au
>  <http://www.novahost.com.au> <http://www.threesquares.com.au>
> <http://www.smsonline.com.au>
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[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?

2007-06-05 Thread Raymond Camden



:)

On 6/5/07, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Um where the code 'breaks' in your example. This isn't valid struct usage.
> Just the same as you can't do this...
>
> 
>
> Or did I miss something? Ie; this would 'break' it too...
>
> IsDefined(" ! ")
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> On 6/5/07, David Harris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > and if you get a bit carried away with struct key names, you can break
> > it too...
> >
> > EG:
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > #isDefined(" myStruct.some value here")# 
> >
> > #structKeyExists(myStruct, "some value
> here")#
> > 
> >
> > On Jun 5, 9:46 pm, David Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > One place to NOT use isDefined is on the CGI scope...
> > >
> > > try this:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > isDefined("cgi.bob") = #isDefined("cgi.bob")#
> > > 
> > > 
> > > structKeyExists(cgi, "bob") = #structKeyExists(cgi,"bob")#
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > >From what I remeber, the CGI is a "magic" scope...
> > >
> > > 
> > > Because some browsers do not support some CGI variables, ColdFusion
> > > always returns True when it tests for the existence of a CGI variable,
> > > regardless of whether the browser supports the variable.
> > > 
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
>


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[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?

2007-06-04 Thread Raymond Camden

Err, how am I wrong? I said there was a speed difference, and you
agreed? Or did you think I meant it was ALWAYS faster? If so - I
misspoke and you are right to correct me.

On 6/4/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually Ray is wrong so to speak...
>
> It is a known fact and even though in some cases it makes no difference as
> the speed differences are very slight, but it is personal preference and
> nothing more. As far as best practice goes, I would be more concerned on how
> to optimise the server processing if it is needed.
>

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[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?

2007-06-04 Thread Raymond Camden

structKeyExists runs quicker - but I hesitate to say isDefined is
"bad". Personally I'd use what feels best to you. It's not like one
will take 0.002 ms and the other will take 2 hours.

On 6/4/07, grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> My patchy memory keeps nagging at me not to use isDefined().
> Am I off-base or do I remember something about it being best-practice to
> avoid isDefined()?
>
> Who's got the low-down?
> Grant
>
>  >
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[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion hurts ASP & Java

2007-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden

On 5/30/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is evident to me that while Adobe need to better market ColdFusion than
> was done by Macromedia, Java and ASP people are quick to jump in with the
> it's crap, I thought it was dead type of comments. Funny that these people
> are even bothering to read such ColdFusion articles, what are they looking
> for if they have moved on. I know I'm not reading any Dig articles on ASP or
> Java releases.


Dale, this is an OFF TOPIC response. Please don't think I ignored the
rest. I wanted to "pick" on you a bit about that last line. I hope you
really don't ignore those articles. As a developer, I find that by
looking at other languages and how they sol eproblems, it gives me
ideas for my own development as well. Shoot - I'd kill for a "web
development" magazine that focused on _all_ the major languages, even
the dreaded ASP. I just enjoy looking at code.

And sometimes...

sometimes

PHP/ASP/Etc - actually do things better than CF does.

I know - heresy. ;)

I think a good example of this the cache support in Dot Net. Now I am
NOT a Dot Net person, so I may get the particulars wrong, but if I
remember right, Dot Net has a pretty darn fancy cache scope. It makes
our cfcache tag look pretty puny. Id love to see that rolled into CF.
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[cfaussie] Re: Here We Go!

2007-05-29 Thread Raymond Camden

It is here

http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2007/5/29/Adobe-releases-public-release-candidate-of-ColdFusion-8--AKA-Scorpio#comments

On 5/29/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> Isn't it bed time in the US, are you up waiting for something.
>
> _ O _ _ _ _ _ _ O _
>
> Hmm, can you believe that 80 words match this pattern.
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Raymond Camden
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 1:51 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Here We Go!
>
>
> o
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist.
>
> On 5/29/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My refresh finger is getting sore.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ray, can we buy a vowel.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> >
> >
> > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of George Lu
> >  Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 1:34 PM
> >  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Here We Go!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think it's getting release :)
> >
> >
> > On 30/05/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Here we go.
> >
> >  http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8
> >
> >  Labs has just changed the Scorpio links to Coldfusion 8 links.
> >
> >  I wonder why? :P
> >
> >  Regards
> >  Dale Fraser
> >
> >  http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  >
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Here We Go!

2007-05-29 Thread Raymond Camden

o

Sorry, couldn't resist.

On 5/29/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> My refresh finger is getting sore.
>
>
>
> Ray, can we buy a vowel.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of George Lu
>  Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 1:34 PM
>  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Here We Go!
>
>
>
>
> I think it's getting release :)
>
>
> On 30/05/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  Here we go.
>
>  http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8
>
>  Labs has just changed the Scorpio links to Coldfusion 8 links.
>
>  I wonder why? :P
>
>  Regards
>  Dale Fraser
>
>  http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
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[cfaussie] Re: Release Candidate? Where's the Public Beta?

2007-05-29 Thread Raymond Camden

I'm not trying to be a jerk here. My blog posts were vague, and IF
they are about what you think they are, I promise you I was given
permission.

Listen - do what you guys want. I'm just saying that you probably
should not be talking about getting the RC.

I'll leave it at that.

On 5/29/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ray,
>
> Are you serious.
>
> Drink Coffee
> And
> Stop Downloading MP3s
>
> I think you are somewhat responsible for these discussions.
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Raymond Camden
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:13 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Release Candidate? Where's the Public Beta?
>
>
> Folks - not to play the snitch or anything, but talking about the
> private beta, and releases within it, is supposed to be kept secret.
>
> Just saying...
>
> On 5/29/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I got the email as did others here.
> >
> > Regards
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of Andrew Scott
> > Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:04 AM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Release Candidate? Where's the Public Beta?
> >
> >
> > No and I haven't received an email either and can't log into the beta
> > section for some reason.
> >
> >
> > Andrew Scott
> > Senior Coldfusion Developer
> > Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
> > www.aegeon.com.au
> > Phone: +613  8676 4223
> > Mobile: 0404 998 273
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Release Candidate? Where's the Public Beta?

2007-05-29 Thread Raymond Camden

Folks - not to play the snitch or anything, but talking about the
private beta, and releases within it, is supposed to be kept secret.

Just saying...

On 5/29/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I got the email as did others here.
>
> Regards
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>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Andrew Scott
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:04 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Release Candidate? Where's the Public Beta?
>
>
> No and I haven't received an email either and can't log into the beta
> section for some reason.
>
>
> Andrew Scott
> Senior Coldfusion Developer
> Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
> www.aegeon.com.au
> Phone: +613  8676 4223
> Mobile: 0404 998 273
>
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[cfaussie] Re: cfindex on CFMX7 with 1 record queries

2007-05-23 Thread Raymond Camden

I'm still confused. You compare an update of 1 row to an update of 100
rows. Normally cfindex is slower when you compare the following:

You have 100 rows to update.
Option A: Loop over each row and insert one at a time.
Option B: Insert all at once as a query.

Does this describe what you are doing?

On 5/23/07, Pat Branley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> when you say not super fast, but fast how long would you expect a 1
> record index to take ? on our servers this can be 10 seconds and
> upwards per CFINDEX call. hence the need to call cfindex via a
> schedule.
>
> but if i do the same cfindex call with 100 rows it may only take 20-30
> seconds.
>
> this causes a problem when i need to re-index a whole site, (which is
> infrequent i know) because i cant use my schedule with a one-at-a-time
> cfindex loop like i could in 6.1 to re-index as its waay to slow (a
> cfindex on 6.1 was like 1-2 seconds for a 1 row query).
>
> So i guess i need to change my schedules so that i minimise the amount
> of calls to CFINDEX. eg. if i need to re-index 1 row then i call
> CFINDEX and take the hit in the scheduled task, but if i need to re-
> index 100 i still have the same number of cfindex calls because i
> combine the data into 1 big query. Does that sound like a better
> solution ?
>
> Does anyone else on the list notice the performance hit with CFINDEX
> calls ? maybe its our setup causing the problem...
>
> Pat
>
> On May 23, 2:21 pm, "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 5/22/07, Pat Branley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > So do you know of a 'best practice' methodology for dealing with
> > > verity indexing of database content ?
> >
> > I'm not aware of such a document. I know that when I teach Verity I
> > talk about the importance of keeping your index in sync with your db.
> > So for example, any Create/Edit/Delete operation needs to ensure it
> > updates th ecollection.
> >
> > > Ive never really seen anywhere that does a mass update of the index
> > > since most of the time only 1 record changes per cycle of a scheduled
> > > task.
> >
> > Right, and that _should_  work fine. But you were doing a mass index
> > one row at a time, right?
> >
> > > normally we would update the index after you have saved a record to
> > > the database. However, because of the overhead of calling cfindex, its
> > > too slow to call on page save. So we call it via a scheduled task. the
> > > schedule normally looks like (abstractly):
> >
> > Again though - didn't you say you were doing _lots_ of updates? If you
> > update your index with ONE record, it should be fast. Not super fast,
> > but fast.
> >
> > -r
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> >
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[cfaussie] Re: cfindex on CFMX7 with 1 record queries

2007-05-22 Thread Raymond Camden

On 5/22/07, Pat Branley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So do you know of a 'best practice' methodology for dealing with
> verity indexing of database content ?

I'm not aware of such a document. I know that when I teach Verity I
talk about the importance of keeping your index in sync with your db.
So for example, any Create/Edit/Delete operation needs to ensure it
updates th ecollection.

> Ive never really seen anywhere that does a mass update of the index
> since most of the time only 1 record changes per cycle of a scheduled
> task.

Right, and that _should_  work fine. But you were doing a mass index
one row at a time, right?


> normally we would update the index after you have saved a record to
> the database. However, because of the overhead of calling cfindex, its
> too slow to call on page save. So we call it via a scheduled task. the
> schedule normally looks like (abstractly):

Again though - didn't you say you were doing _lots_ of updates? If you
update your index with ONE record, it should be fast. Not super fast,
but fast.

-r

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[cfaussie] Re: cfindex on CFMX7 with 1 record queries

2007-05-22 Thread Raymond Camden

I've done a few presentations on Verity in the past. CF7 had a major
update, hence the reason there are a lot of new features in CF7 in
terms on Verity. As for this particular point, I guess I woul dhave
always assumed that one update versus N would be quicker.

On 5/22/07, Pat Branley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> After all this time (see my initial post on 22 Nov 2005!) i think i
> may have discovered why the verity indexing process appears painfully
> slow in CF7 vs CF6.1. See the thread below:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=143&threadid=1009996&enterthread=y
>
> Notice that the post by the team member mentions the 'record-at-a-
> time' vs bulk processing of verity 5.5. After some initial testing
> with my indexing schedules i can see this working. For example, in our
> systems after the user updates a record the system then puts a flag in
> the table that this record requires re-indexing. The scheduled task
> then loops over all the records that require re-indexing calling
>  separately on each row. If i change this process to call
> CFINDEX only once for all the rows in the whole table, the time taken
> is slightly slower than that of a cfindex on 1 row, but massively
> faster than the combined time to process all the rows individually.
>
> What is slightly annoying is that its taken a year for me to find this
> information. Nobody seems to blog much about verity and theres no
> recommended way you should work with CFINDEX listed in the docs.
> Considering this is a pretty big change from the functionality in
> CF6.1, I would have thought someone would have documented it
> somewhere?
>
> Or i have I just missed some blindly obvious piece of information
> thats on page 1 of cfdocs ?
>
> Pat
>
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[cfaussie] Re: Fosters (was RE: [cfaussie] Re: Verity Custom Fields)

2007-05-16 Thread Raymond Camden

Ok, last message and I swear I'll let the thread die. The Coopers was
great. I still think Fosters is pretty darn good, but the Coopers was
even better.

On 5/14/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> btw ever in Seattle, hit this place up:
> http://www.taphousegrill.com/beers.html
>
> 160 beers on tap.. it was umm... magical.. and fuzzy... about after
> the 20th beer sample i actually thought i was at home :) hehehe.
>
> On 5/13/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Mix it with VB - to make a "Black and Tan". Is almost palatable.
> >
> > On 13/05/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Toby, How can Yarra Mud be good for you?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/13/07, Toby Tremayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bah you're all heathens.  Get some decent ale into you - a Guinness will
> > > sort you right out ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Toby
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  >
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[cfaussie] Re: Fosters (was RE: [cfaussie] Re: Verity Custom Fields)

2007-05-12 Thread Raymond Camden

My last post - I promise. A month ago a friend gave me a bag of beer -
random beer - which is as about a good a gift as you can get. I just
opened the beer fridge (yes, we have one just for beer), and there is
a Coopers in there. I'll try it tonight.

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> Actually, I've been constantly reverting back to Coopers or Heineken's
> (that or depending on the local Micro-breweries in town) when I'm in
> the US. So Raymond if you stumble on one that's close to Aussie beer,
> let me know!
>
> p.s

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[cfaussie] Re: Fosters (was RE: [cfaussie] Re: Verity Custom Fields)

2007-05-09 Thread Raymond Camden

No particular reason. I don't respond much on cf-talk as the traffic
is way high.

On 5/9/07, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think most of them (us) would be asleep now.
>
>  Ray, I say this with absolute respect... why did you join this group?
> (other than because aussies are generally nice people). I'm just curious. I
> mean how many emails can one guy read?
>
>  Btw, I've only started posting recently myself :)
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[cfaussie] Re: Fosters (was RE: [cfaussie] Re: Verity Custom Fields)

2007-05-09 Thread Raymond Camden

So what would you guys recommend? Coopers? Anything else for 'real'
Aussie beer. I'd have to actually -find- it in Louisiana. ;)

(Sorry if I'm OT folks, I'm a bit new to this list.)

On 5/9/07, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charlie, I think you've summed it up perfectly.
> I was in the US recently and was disturbed by how many people drank Fosters.
> I had to set the record straight many times.
>
> Then I tried Bud, Samuel Adams and so on. Ewww! I started to understand the
> need for Fosters over there.
>
> Fear not, I've heard Coopers is embarking on work domination. Coming to a
> store near you... if the boat ever arrives.

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[cfaussie] Re: Verity Custom Fields

2007-05-08 Thread Raymond Camden

No, but I drank a Fosters. Does that count?

On 5/8/07, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray I hope you typed in an aussie accent :)
>
> On 5/8/07, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Toby is right. It has to be a simple value. Although you can WDDX
> > encode if you really want to.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can you put complex values into the custom fields?
> > >
> > > Am wondering if i can put a structure in there or of they will only
> > > handle simple string values.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
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[cfaussie] Re: Verity Custom Fields

2007-05-08 Thread Raymond Camden

Toby is right. It has to be a simple value. Although you can WDDX
encode if you really want to.

On 5/7/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Can you put complex values into the custom fields?
>
> Am wondering if i can put a structure in there or of they will only
> handle simple string values.
>
> Steve
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>
> >
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