[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Yes, it does, thanks. On 10/11/06, Charlie Arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chris, I think you're looking at the wrong screen, mate. > > Are you expecting that to look like those in figures 2.1 and 5.1 in the User > Guide? They are what it seems you're expecting, showing creation of an > Eclipse debug configuration. The steps to get to that screen is in section 5 > of the manual. > > You say you are configuring "as per the manual". What you see is from using > Window>Preferences, which is discussed only in section 7 on setting up the > license. > > Does this help you get sorted? > > /charlie > http://www.carehart.org/blog/ > > -Original Message- > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Chris Velevitch > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:10 AM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger > > I've just downloaded and installed FusionDebug, but I can't config it as the > configuration dialog as per the manual is missing. Has anyone seen this > before? > > > Chris > -- > Chris Velevitch > Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group > m: 0415 469 095 > www.flashdev.org.au > > > > > > > -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Chris, I think you're looking at the wrong screen, mate. Are you expecting that to look like those in figures 2.1 and 5.1 in the User Guide? They are what it seems you're expecting, showing creation of an Eclipse debug configuration. The steps to get to that screen is in section 5 of the manual. You say you are configuring "as per the manual". What you see is from using Window>Preferences, which is discussed only in section 7 on setting up the license. Does this help you get sorted? /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Velevitch Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:10 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger I've just downloaded and installed FusionDebug, but I can't config it as the configuration dialog as per the manual is missing. Has anyone seen this before? Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Hahaha. Nicer I meant making it work. Cause right now Its not working at all. What I am scared of is that we have coded our application in such a way that the debugger won't be able to work it out. Its simular to spectra. OLD SCHOOL. We already bought the licence oddly enough the company bought it for us even though we are movin to .NET.go figure. Anyway I will drop them an email and hopefully get an answer this time. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Go back to where you downloaded it http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/downloads.php And you see a link to the user guide. Without a license you get 20days to use it. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Velevitch Sent: Wednesday, 11 October 2006 2:10 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger I've just downloaded and installed FusionDebug, but I can't config it as the configuration dialog as per the manual is missing. Has anyone seen this before? Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Jeremy, please do drop a note directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sure they will both love to hear about the problem and, as in Andrew's case, may offer a bug fix. I'm not aware of that problem myself. As for "tutorials/best practices available that show how to make debugging CFC a bit nicer", do you mean specifically with regard to using FusionDebug to debug them? Or do you mean in general? And if you mean with regard to FD, I'd ask "a bit nicer" than what? What's the issue (other than this one seeming bug)? Not being cheeky or defensive--just email's tendency to make things come off that way! :-) /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:13 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger Thats amazing as I haven't been able to achieve even that result. I found that if I ran the debugger or should I say it was running, I called my coldfusion page which had a CFC invoked in it. I got an error along the lines of its to "big to show the results". I have never seen an error like this before. Thinking it was my programming issue, I looked all over the place for the bug, then I turned OFF debugging and the error went away. We are calling a CFC within a CFC but still it should be able to handle that I would assume. IS there any tutorials/best practices available that show how to make debugging CFC a bit nicer. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Thats amazing as I haven't been able to achieve even that result. I found that if I ran the debugger or should I say it was running, I called my coldfusion page which had a CFC invoked in it. I got an error along the lines of its to "big to show the results". I have never seen an error like this before. Thinking it was my programming issue, I looked all over the place for the bug, then I turned OFF debugging and the error went away. We are calling a CFC within a CFC but still it should be able to handle that I would assume. IS there any tutorials/best practices available that show how to make debugging CFC a bit nicer. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Charlie, FD support sent me an update, and it now works for me and it was discovered in some cases to be a bug. Thanks for you interest though. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Charlie, I have already provided that feedback to Ben as well, but never heard anything back since. And I agree, and even told them that the product shows huge promise. Just noted a few things that I didn't like about it. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart Sent: Tuesday, 10 October 2006 1:16 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger Right: when you're in the method itself you do have the info. I'll ask the guys about having access to it always (since if it's stored in a variable, it would seem it should be accessible to dig into as a struct or array). May be some challenge they can't overcome, though. Remember: they did all this on their own, no integration assistance with Adobe, so let's give 'em credit for what they *have* done. It's also the first release. I'm sure there's more to come. /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:28 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger Charlie, When you create an object (CFC component) it is held in memory as an object with properties, so if I instantiate that the variable contains the words coldfusion component in FD, and there is no way to go back into that object to see its variables or methods after it has been defined as a variable. Hope that makes a bit more sense. Onky when you step back into this via a method call does this info become available to you. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Right: when you're in the method itself you do have the info. I'll ask the guys about having access to it always (since if it's stored in a variable, it would seem it should be accessible to dig into as a struct or array). May be some challenge they can't overcome, though. Remember: they did all this on their own, no integration assistance with Adobe, so let's give 'em credit for what they *have* done. It's also the first release. I'm sure there's more to come. /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:28 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger Charlie, When you create an object (CFC component) it is held in memory as an object with properties, so if I instantiate that the variable contains the words coldfusion component in FD, and there is no way to go back into that object to see its variables or methods after it has been defined as a variable. Hope that makes a bit more sense. Onky when you step back into this via a method call does this info become available to you. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Charlie, When you create an object (CFC component) it is held in memory as an object with properties, so if I instantiate that the variable contains the words coldfusion component in FD, and there is no way to go back into that object to see its variables or methods after it has been defined as a variable. Hope that makes a bit more sense. Onky when you step back into this via a method call does this info become available to you. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Mark, besides Andrew, still others with experience with mix-ins may have more thoughts. I've not myself used them--but CFML is CFML. There's no reason I can imagine why FD would fail to work with any CFML at all. Andrew, as for "The only thing that annoys me is that CFC's are shown as component's but you can't delve into their properties", can you explain what you mean? You absolutely can see the THIS scope of a CFC instance (and of course VAR scope of a method). What more about "delving in to their properties" are you finding a challenge with? Sorry if I'm revealing some ignorance my self with this question. Fortunately, the folks from Intergral are (or at least were) on this list, so they too may chime in with thoughts on this or other topics you or others may raise. /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:20 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger Mark, I think it does, when I did testing against MG:U I didn't really pay to much attention, but it seemed to from what I can recall. I know if you call super.method() it will go to that method / function so I guess it does:-) The only thing that annoys me is that CFC's are shown as component's but you can't delve into their properties. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Mark, I think it does, when I did testing against MG:U I didn't really pay to much attention, but it seemed to from what I can recall. I know if you call super.method() it will go to that method / function so I guess it does:-) The only thing that annoys me is that CFC's are shown as component's but you can't delve into their properties. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Monday, 9 October 2006 10:55 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger Does anyone know if the FD supports mixins? Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Does anyone know if the FD supports mixins? Mark On 10/9/06, Charlie Arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jeremy, there are known instances where breakpoints may not fire. The good > news is that it's not a bug in the product, but either simply a setup issue > or CF optimizing the code such that the CFML source no longer exactly > matches the underlying Java classes (not FD's problem, in other words). > > In the case of the setup issues, those are pretty easily resolved as > discussed in this FAQ: > > http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/support.html#breakpoints4 > > It also discusses the issue of code being optimized by the compiler. The > solution is simply to recompile the CFC while the debugger is running (open > the CFC, edit and save it). > > Be sure to read the documentation. It's not very long (about 40 pages). > Pages 26 and 39 also cover the recompilation issue: > > http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/helpDocs/FusionDebug_User_Guide.pd > f > > Let us know how that goes. > > /charlie > http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Jeremy, there are known instances where breakpoints may not fire. The good news is that it's not a bug in the product, but either simply a setup issue or CF optimizing the code such that the CFML source no longer exactly matches the underlying Java classes (not FD's problem, in other words). In the case of the setup issues, those are pretty easily resolved as discussed in this FAQ: http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/support.html#breakpoints4 It also discusses the issue of code being optimized by the compiler. The solution is simply to recompile the CFC while the debugger is running (open the CFC, edit and save it). Be sure to read the documentation. It's not very long (about 40 pages). Pages 26 and 39 also cover the recompilation issue: http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/helpDocs/FusionDebug_User_Guide.pd f Let us know how that goes. /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 7:43 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger Charlie, You will be happy to know that my company bought it last week. Which if you recall I was going mental about how crap it washow the tide turns. However we haven't got it working with CFC's. It works perfectly if you use their example code. But when you put any kind of break points into a CFC it ignores it and just displays the page. Has anyone else had the same issue, or am I missing something. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Charlie, You will be happy to know that my company bought it last week. Which if you recall I was going mental about how crap it washow the tide turns. However we haven't got it working with CFC's. It works perfectly if you use their example code. But when you put any kind of break points into a CFC it ignores it and just displays the page. Has anyone else had the same issue, or am I missing something. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
thanks for the info, i will take a look jamie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
FusionDebug: www.fusiondebug.com I'll also point out several blog entries I've done on it: http://carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/fusiondebug Besides entries on getting your started using it, and helping explain why you should, I also offer some tips and traps to save you heartache (as can happen with any software). In case folks missed it, I also pointed out that the company has dropped the price through October and also introduced a new "community edition" for just US$99, also through October. That last point may be of most interest to some. See more at: http://carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2006/9/29/fusiondebug_discounted_p ricing I also did an interview/review for 30 minutes on the Coldfusion Weekly Podcast (more in a blog entry in the series above), and will have an article in the upcoming CFDJ and FusionAuthority Quarterly Update (a different article in each). No, I don't work for the guys. :-) I just sensed that here was a great tool that hardly anyone was noticing, and one thing led to another. /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 3:37 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] cfdebugger hi there a few weeks ago i saw a new eclipse plugin for debugging cf apps. (no more headaches) i cant for the life of me remember what it is called Jamie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
