Re: [Chevelle-List] '72 El Camino body on a '67 frame?
68-72 are the same
[Chevelle-List] '72 El Camino body on a '67 frame?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Always one to look for an easier way, there's a '72 El Camino body in the local paper at an attractive price. Since my '67 El Camino was rear ended and most of the body parts were crunched to the point of needing replacement or scraping, I'm wondering if the frame-to-body mounting points are the same for the two years of vehicle. Anyone know? Also, in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia, what are the vehicle registration issues for such a mismatch? Spud [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Heck, I'd be happy with a couple of ramps built into the floor just so I wouldn't have to jack up the vehicle in order to lay under it! ;^) Brad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
Wayne: did you have the trusses engineered or did you get a permit to cut them ? i bet you didn't did you ? :) larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
At 06:20 PM 01/15/2002, you wrote: The EPA has a real problem with "pits" because of circulation and drainage issues. To commercially build a pit to code ,I think, is so expensive and they're so difficult and such a pain in the butt that everyone just went to lifts. There's alot of cheapie lifts out there so be careful. There's only one you, what are you worth? Hey given the choice, I'd pony up for the good onerather have a lift than a pit due to it's ability to stop at any height Kelly C. Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
Re:Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Steve: yea you can fall into it, lots of work to built one (steps, floor drain, etc.) very limited to what you can work on compared to a lift.but if you don't have the height and depth a pit may be the answer. how many who want a lift have thought about height and depth of garage? without going into great details some of the lifts need 12-14 feet high ceilings when there is a car on the hoist. also if you got a car on hoist can you open the garage door? a chevelle is about 16 1/2 feet long unless you do a roll up door you need 17 feet minimum just to get car in (20 feet deep is tight) so with an 7-8 foot high door it would have to be another 10 feet back for hard ware (door in up position). so for a lift unless it is just the shortie (3-4 feet high?) you need at least 30 feet in depth (35 feet would be better) and 12-14 foot in ceiling height. Larry Alot of good thought but noy 100% right. I have a garage and it's ceiling was 9'6" in the lift Bay and 24 ft wide. the roof is a 4/12 pitch. By plating the truss with 2X10 and cutting out the center on two truss. I can lift the lift full hight and drive a car under it. As for the track on the 8ft wide by 7 ft, high door .I got track extenders and raised the track up 12in. vertically and along the ceiling. I know can put the door up with either the 64 conv or 65 El Camino on the lift. A 12 ft ceiling is the answer and a 9ft door. Wayne Wayne - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List You might want to check your local building codes, anonymously, for items like pits and drains. Speaking from experience, if the health dept gets involved with you project, you might wish you had never mentioned it. In my last garage, a double, I wanted a pit and a drain in the other stall. The health dept required me to install a drainage pit for the drain at a cost of around $1,500 and the 2' pit I wanted was a hazard and I needed to install a removable railing. I was over budget and gave up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul G. Ferguson Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ? Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I built one of those out of cement blocks into our old barn floor. It works great. When we poured the floor we framed out the pit so that 3/4 inch was recessed over the blocks. That way we cut plywood to be the deck when the pit was not in use. I do of course worry about carbon monoxide being heavier than air and never use the pit around a running engine. Paul G. Ferguson 185-01 Union Turnpike Fresh Meadows, NY 11366 (718) 454-1800 Fax 454-1876 "Work like you don't need the money, Love like you've never been hurt and Dance like no one is watching." - Original Message - From: "Cecil "Steve" Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ? > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Josh, > Once upon a time they used to put a narrow "pit" with stairs in the > middle of one side of a garage so you could just walk under your car to work > on it. Might be something to consider, since you are building from scratch, > and working on cars is a priority. Anyone see any down side to that? > > > Steve > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Josh Campbell > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ? > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > When I build my garage this summer (already dozed out the spot) I'm buying a > lift or I'll make one, but I will have one They make life sooo much > nicer. > Josh > > > >From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ? > >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:22:08 -0600 > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > >Superior advertises in our magazine. Al Hemstreet offers a discount to our > >members. Bet he would do the same for ACES members. > >Clint Hooper > >LT5 Registry > >Wichita Falls,Tx > >(940) 855-6636 anytime > >'90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 > >TX TAGS: USA ZR1 > >http://www.LT5Registry.com/ > >- Original Message - > >From: John Nasta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > or: http://www.superlifts.com > > > > > > > >- > >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Car Seats (as in Kids)
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Here's a weird question for the group. My '67 is my daily driver, and I take my daughter to school in it 3 days a week, likely soon to be 5 days. She is still small enough that she uses the five point harness in her car seat, but some time soon she will graduate to using the seat as a booster. This is where the issue comes in. The booster seats are made to use the 3 point lap/shoulder belt on the car, and I only have lap belts. As far as I know, there is no hard point to mount a shoulder belt in the rear (preferred position for the seats), but there is one I could use for a front shoulder belt. I dont like the idea of using a lap belt alone if I could help it. The shoulder belt kits that will work for the Chevelle are the old style two part belts that also might not work with the seat, and I have not had success retrofitting the unified modern style retracting lap/shoulder belts. My only thoughts are that I could modify the retracting belts to work with the Chevelle, or go whole hog and install four point belts (which really means I need a cage for mounting). Any thoughts? Brad Waller '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I'm game! Do ya she'll notice the 50 series rubber hangin out past the fenders?? *laugh* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List How bout one of those 455 toronado and front wheel drive trannies to smoke those front tires off the rims. Oh guess the wife wouldnt think the same of it as the rest of us would. Just a thought. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:15:49 -0500 > >Speaking of being cooked - I'm having S**T for luck - Just changed the oil >in my wife's car, It looked like fudge swirl Looks like I'm cutting up >her saturn to accept a big block > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > Sounds like you cooked them :) _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
The EPA has a real problem with "pits" because of circulation and drainage issues. To commercially build a pit to code ,I think, is so expensive and they're so difficult and such a pain in the butt that everyone just went to lifts. There's alot of cheapie lifts out there so be careful. There's only one you, what are you worth? Mark
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List How bout one of those 455 toronado and front wheel drive trannies to smoke those front tires off the rims. Oh guess the wife wouldnt think the same of it as the rest of us would. Just a thought. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:15:49 -0500 > >Speaking of being cooked - I'm having S**T for luck - Just changed the oil >in my wife's car, It looked like fudge swirl Looks like I'm cutting up >her saturn to accept a big block > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > Sounds like you cooked them :) _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sorry Brian - my mistake - I was actually referring to I.M Shrejk about the overheat issue -- i.e: "One blew a lower radiator hose and my son didn't shut it off until steam started coming out under the car." Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List The motor never overheated. It hasn't gotten over 200 degrees. It has a small trace of smoke when it idles out of one side and it will let out a puff of smoke when it has been driven, Ishut it off, and come back and start it again. Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibu. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Speaking of being cooked - I'm having S**T for luck - Just changed the oil in my wife's car, It looked like fudge swirl Looks like I'm cutting up her saturn to accept a big block -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:06 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsionSounds like you cooked them :)
Re: [Chevelle-List] (NC) Oil-sucking Oldses
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List i have the simple solution for 307 Olds engines, replace em with a 350 chevy :). Thats what I did on my 86 Cutlass. The 307 from 86-88 is very difficult to get high performance parts for. If you choose to go this route, do what I did and go and strip down a V-8 Monte Carlo. Take all the pullies, engine brackets, motor mounts, frame mounts, PS Pump, Altenator, AC Compressor, etc. I would suggest going the chevy engine swap if your 307 is on its last legs. 350's are alot cheaper to rebuild or build up than a 307 Olds. Also a very good idea to dump that TH 200 or TH2004R tranny for a TH350 during a Olds to chevy swap The only problem is the computer junk carb and distributor wise. i simply eliminated the computer control from mine altogether. The only good thing the Olds 307 has to offer is the fact that most of them are roller engines, other than that I consider them boat anchors not worth building up. Putting a mostly stock 350 in my 86 Cutlass shaved 3 seconds off its 1/4 time, Best et with the 307 was 17.24, the 350 runs 14.62. The 17 sec ET was after I had made a few "modifications" to the 307, but internally it was stock. It ran an embarrasing 19.22 when I first got it. This is just an opinion too, but I like the chevy setup a whole lot better. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Sounds like you cooked them :)
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List The motor never overheated. It hasn't gotten over 200 degrees. It has a small trace of smoke when it idles out of one side and it will let out a puff of smoke when it has been driven, Ishut it off, and come back and start it again. Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibu. >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:54:13 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Ouch - I think you're dead on the mark with regards to the rings. >If the motor got that hot, I surprized the head gaskets are still intact. >You could use a ball hone to break the glaze on the cylinder bores and add >a >new set of rings...assuming that you want to go that far... > >It's also pretty realistic that the valve seals are failing as well. Does >it >smoke when you start it? > >I'm in the process of replacing the heads on my 383 smblk. It never >overheated, but one cast iron head actually rotted thru and started leaking >on number 5 cylinder last week. Bought a pair of Aluminum Perform RPM 64 >cc'd heads \new RPM intake and am trashing the old castings - > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of I. M. Shrejk >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >I am sorry, but I have not been following the "oil consumption" topic that >closely. However, some of the recent answers started me wondering about >the >two Oldsmobiles I also own. Both are the "Y" type 307 CID engines. If >anyone has owned one of these they know they run forever. These are >everyday drivers. > >Anyway, in both cases, the engines started excessive oil burning after >overheating. One blew a lower radiator hose and my son didn't shut it off >until steam started coming out under the car. > >In the other case, I was cruising along the interstate and my temperature >guage started climbing and ended up in the red zone. I shut it off when I >noticed a leak in the thermostat gasket. I bought a couple gallons of >Prestone which got me to my destination. Again, I stopped when the temp >climbed into the red area and added 50:50 antifreeze to the overfill tank. > >My conclusion was that the rings were shot so I just keep putting oil in as >required. Before these disasters, I could go 2000 miles without adding >oil. > Now it is a quart every 300 to 500 miles depending upon the type of >driving. > >Does anyone think that this could be something as simple as worn valve >seals? If so, is there any way to inspect them or check them without >removing the springs? > > > >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:33:31 -0500 > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > >Hey Brian - > >Yup, I believe Fel-Pro or Sealed-Power has them. Perfect Circle (P&C) is > >another. Just make sure you match them to your valve stem diameter. They > >usually fit inside the spring with plenty of cleareance. Lastly If your >are > >going to an umbrella style, I would discard the steel shield that goes > >under > >the retainer, and add a shim of the same thickness to maintain the corret > >seat pressure with the valve closed...Hopes this helps... > > > >Nick > > >. > >_ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] (NC) Oil-sucking Oldses
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Ditto Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] (NC) Oil-sucking Oldses Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I.M. Shrejk wrote: > two Oldsmobiles I also own. Both are the "Y" type 307 CID engines. If > > Anyway, in both cases, the engines started excessive oil burning after > overheating. One blew a lower radiator hose and my son didn't shut it off > until steam started coming out under the car. > > In the other case, I was cruising along the interstate and my temperature > guage started climbing and ended up in the red zone. I shut it off when I > noticed a leak in the thermostat gasket. I bought a couple gallons of > Prestone which got me to my destination. Again, I stopped when the temp > climbed into the red area and added 50:50 antifreeze to the overfill tank. > > Does anyone think that this could be something as simple as worn valve > seals? If so, is there any way to inspect them or check them without > removing the springs? You didn't say how many miles are on these engines but if the mileage is high I would guess it's not inconceivable that overheated oil could've brought about the demise of aged oil seals. And yes, you have to disassemble the valves to replace the seals. Of course, once you've done that you'll probably want to install some new springs...and since the top end's open you could do a cam swap as well... ;^) Brad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Ouch - I think you're dead on the mark with regards to the rings. If the motor got that hot, I surprized the head gaskets are still intact. You could use a ball hone to break the glaze on the cylinder bores and add a new set of rings...assuming that you want to go that far... It's also pretty realistic that the valve seals are failing as well. Does it smoke when you start it? I'm in the process of replacing the heads on my 383 smblk. It never overheated, but one cast iron head actually rotted thru and started leaking on number 5 cylinder last week. Bought a pair of Aluminum Perform RPM 64 cc'd heads \new RPM intake and am trashing the old castings - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of I. M. Shrejk Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I am sorry, but I have not been following the "oil consumption" topic that closely. However, some of the recent answers started me wondering about the two Oldsmobiles I also own. Both are the "Y" type 307 CID engines. If anyone has owned one of these they know they run forever. These are everyday drivers. Anyway, in both cases, the engines started excessive oil burning after overheating. One blew a lower radiator hose and my son didn't shut it off until steam started coming out under the car. In the other case, I was cruising along the interstate and my temperature guage started climbing and ended up in the red zone. I shut it off when I noticed a leak in the thermostat gasket. I bought a couple gallons of Prestone which got me to my destination. Again, I stopped when the temp climbed into the red area and added 50:50 antifreeze to the overfill tank. My conclusion was that the rings were shot so I just keep putting oil in as required. Before these disasters, I could go 2000 miles without adding oil. Now it is a quart every 300 to 500 miles depending upon the type of driving. Does anyone think that this could be something as simple as worn valve seals? If so, is there any way to inspect them or check them without removing the springs? >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:33:31 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Hey Brian - >Yup, I believe Fel-Pro or Sealed-Power has them. Perfect Circle (P&C) is >another. Just make sure you match them to your valve stem diameter. They >usually fit inside the spring with plenty of cleareance. Lastly If your are >going to an umbrella style, I would discard the steel shield that goes >under >the retainer, and add a shim of the same thickness to maintain the corret >seat pressure with the valve closed...Hopes this helps... > >Nick > . _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List no problem - Good luck!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Nick Thanks for the help. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] (NC) Oil-sucking Oldses
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List In a message dated 1/15/02 11:31:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I.M. Shrejk, Sorry to hear of your Olds engine problems. If you want to replace the engine, we've got a good running Olds 350 from a 70 Cutlass Supreme. It was rebuilt recently. You can have it for $500. Sincerely, Trevor Baker http://www.autoobsession.com/";>Auto Obsession 805-306-0795 Shop 805-660-2253 Cell To subscribe to our email group and be notified when we acquire more parts or parts cars, and to find out about upcoming shows and swap meets, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] (NC) Oil-sucking Oldses
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I.M. Shrejk wrote: > two Oldsmobiles I also own. Both are the "Y" type 307 CID engines. If > > Anyway, in both cases, the engines started excessive oil burning after > overheating. One blew a lower radiator hose and my son didn't shut it off > until steam started coming out under the car. > > In the other case, I was cruising along the interstate and my temperature > guage started climbing and ended up in the red zone. I shut it off when I > noticed a leak in the thermostat gasket. I bought a couple gallons of > Prestone which got me to my destination. Again, I stopped when the temp > climbed into the red area and added 50:50 antifreeze to the overfill tank. > > Does anyone think that this could be something as simple as worn valve > seals? If so, is there any way to inspect them or check them without > removing the springs? You didn't say how many miles are on these engines but if the mileage is high I would guess it's not inconceivable that overheated oil could've brought about the demise of aged oil seals. And yes, you have to disassemble the valves to replace the seals. Of course, once you've done that you'll probably want to install some new springs...and since the top end's open you could do a cam swap as well... ;^) Brad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Nick Thanks for the help. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I am sorry, but I have not been following the "oil consumption" topic that closely. However, some of the recent answers started me wondering about the two Oldsmobiles I also own. Both are the "Y" type 307 CID engines. If anyone has owned one of these they know they run forever. These are everyday drivers. Anyway, in both cases, the engines started excessive oil burning after overheating. One blew a lower radiator hose and my son didn't shut it off until steam started coming out under the car. In the other case, I was cruising along the interstate and my temperature guage started climbing and ended up in the red zone. I shut it off when I noticed a leak in the thermostat gasket. I bought a couple gallons of Prestone which got me to my destination. Again, I stopped when the temp climbed into the red area and added 50:50 antifreeze to the overfill tank. My conclusion was that the rings were shot so I just keep putting oil in as required. Before these disasters, I could go 2000 miles without adding oil. Now it is a quart every 300 to 500 miles depending upon the type of driving. Does anyone think that this could be something as simple as worn valve seals? If so, is there any way to inspect them or check them without removing the springs? >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:33:31 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Hey Brian - >Yup, I believe Fel-Pro or Sealed-Power has them. Perfect Circle (P&C) is >another. Just make sure you match them to your valve stem diameter. They >usually fit inside the spring with plenty of cleareance. Lastly If your are >going to an umbrella style, I would discard the steel shield that goes >under >the retainer, and add a shim of the same thickness to maintain the corret >seat pressure with the valve closed...Hopes this helps... > >Nick > . _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Cabin Fever- Winter blahs - time for shows?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Ok guys, although I am a recent Chevelle owner, I am starting to get the desire to get out and see some Chevelles and meet with some of the great guys I have been chatting with. At least planning a trip can get me pumped up once in a while. Otherwise the winter is keeping us northern/midwestern boys tied down. I have been to Pigeon Forge Tenn. a couple of times, and both times there was some sort of car show going on. What a great place to meet people and have a car show. I love it there. Hotel prices are usually pretty good too because they have so many of them. I noticed the following shows coming up there: Grand Spring Run. I am assuming this is an open class? April 19-22 http://www.hemmings.com/carclubcentral/event_detail.cfm?ID=38340 and a Camero, Chevelle/Elky & Nova show June 14, the weekend after the Nashville show. Those thinking of taking more than a week off might like the back to back Tennessee shows? http://www.hemmings.com/carclubcentral/event_detail.cfm?ID=38926 Anyone got their rides warming up yet? Steve - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Brian - Yup, I believe Fel-Pro or Sealed-Power has them. Perfect Circle (P&C) is another. Just make sure you match them to your valve stem diameter. They usually fit inside the spring with plenty of cleareance. Lastly If your are going to an umbrella style, I would discard the steel shield that goes under the retainer, and add a shim of the same thickness to maintain the corret seat pressure with the valve closed...Hopes this helps... Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Would I just ask for the umbrella type seals? Or is it from an aftermarket manufacturer. I did use the stock type. I know this because I took each valve out and just cleaned up/polished the rough casting in the intake and exhaust ports and reinstalled it back the way it came out before I put the heads on the engine. >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:08:49 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Hey Brian - Your Valves seals (if the stock o-ring type) aren't the best >type to use and usually get brittle and fall off. This could be the case >you >have now. The guides are decent, just no seal to keep most of the oil away. >You can always replace them with a late model P&C or umbrella type. The P&C >type are factory one that just slip over the stock valve guide and are held >in place with a steel spring band. The umbrella types just slip over the >valve stem. You can replace them on with the heads on the motor \ while in >the car. It's not complicated, but it is tedious. > >Nick > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:37 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Thanks. I kinda thought that too. I dont know which way the guides were >done. I guess I will find out. Also this morning, I made a point to check >after it was warmed up and I do see a light trace of blue smoke coming out >of one side of the exhaust at idle. If it was still the guides or valve >stem >seals, would it be doing this? > > > >From: "Kent Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:24:05 -0600 > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > >Brian, > > > >It sure sounds like the valve guides and/or valve stem seals. Do you > >know if the valve guides were replaced or were they "knurled" ? I have >not > >had much luck with "knurled" valve guides. Once the knurled ridges wear > >down, then the gap between the valve stem and the valve guide is even > >larger, allowing for additional oil consumption. Much better to have the > >valve guides replaced and honed to size, and use quality valve stem >seals. > > > > It doesn't sound like the rings are bad, if they were, you would be > >smoking while driving. What is likely happening is that, when the engine > >is > >shut off, the oil is seeping past the valve stem seals, down the valve, > >into > >the cylinder. Then when the engine is started, you have a brief puff of > >smoke. > > > > Good Luck. > > > >Kent > >'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) > > > > > > > >- > >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >_ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL
Re: [Chevelle-List] BBC VS SBC
In a message dated 1/15/2002 9:15:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://members.home.net/oldszone/Tech/Dually.html Wow a 2 big block chevelle / too bad they weren't chevy big blocks but what the heck!
RE: [Chevelle-List] compression ratio
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I've had good luck with 5-6LBs of boost and 8.8 - 9:1 compression on big blocks and small blocks. Carb jetting, Ignition timing, and grade of gas is extremely critical at this point. Check out MSD's product line for Boost retard controlls...npv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Emil Dusek Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] compression ratio Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List David, it depends on what amount of boost you are planning to run, what octane you will be using and type of head(iron vs aluminum). You absolutely can have a blower w/nitrous. Each power adder compliments the other and the total is greater then the sum of the parts. A rough estimate is an additional 25%hp to whatever nitrous jet size you are using. Emil Dusek:71SS-502 NA 93Z,383,Vortech,Nitrous(2-stages) >David Hovanessian wrote>> >I was wondering what would be a good compression ratio and is it >possible to have a supercharger/blower and >nos? I was wondering for a 383 and a 454 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] BBC VS SBC
Espcially if they are two 8-71 feed 600inch Mountain Motors (too much for my wallet)!!! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:40 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] BBC VS SBCOh yes it does! Two big blocks!
Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
brad : a ladder would be fine but i doubt if code would allow it. i will get my code books out and also ask my teacher tonight. i really don't think you want to be down in a pit with a ladder. also i think even a ladder will take up 3-3 1/2 feet clearance beyond the car. i really think a pit if built right (sump pump, air removal, lights, safety, etc.) is almost cost prohibitive. Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] BBC VS SBC
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > Doesnt get much better than a big block chevelle!! >> Oh yes it does! Two big blocks! If anyone didn't see the 70 Chevelle with 2 big blocks for sale on EBay last year: http://members.home.net/oldszone/Tech/Dually.html -- Cliff http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] building up a 70
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List First of all i am located in Madison, MS. The body is rough. Nothing can be used off it but it could be restored just requires a lot more money than i am willing to spend. It does have all the glass and window mechanisms though it excellent shape. The frame is good besides a slightly enlarged area around the front left body mount and that bar the goes along the very back of the frame is slightly pulled down on the bottom part like someone tried to pull it from there but is easily fixed. The dash is good and no not an SS. I do have a near perfect front bumper and SS rear bumper with pad that i listed for sale on chevelles.com. The driver side mirror is aight and it has the licences plate holder and all front clip besides hood. But i am not sure if i would use any of the interior if anyone has something they need i can sure look and reply with its condition but i still have everything i took out of it. Let me know if you have any other questions. Michael >From: "Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] building up a 70 >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:10:01 -0800 > >hey Michael, >tell us us more about the '70parts car -- whats left of the >body/interior?. >and where are ya located? > > > > > Rob Means >"be good,if not,be good at it > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: Michael Ishee > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:31 PM > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] building up a 70 > > > As for as young people being into only rice burners (and criticize me if >you will but I like most I see), I have a '69 Chevelle with a 454,TH350, >and 12 bolt with 4.10 gears and I am 18. I just recently purchased this. >Once of my first modifications besides the suspension is putting in a >Richmond ROD 6 speed and lower gears for better cruising and top end. I >also have a '70 parts car if you need something let me know and I might be >able to get it. > > Thanks > > Michael > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mabs, Kenneth > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:51 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] building up a 70 > > > > boy am i glad to here this. i thought all teenagers were caught up in >that fast and furious crap. atleast some of us still know what to drive. >i have a 70 chevelle with a 350 and a TH350. i am 16 and just started on >my resoration a few months ago but i go away to school so i dont have much >time to work on the chevelle. i think keeping the 350 and rebuilding it >would save you more money than buying a bbc. check and make sure the small >block is a 4 bolt main and look into rebuilding that instead. you can fix >up a 350 with the right heads and a strong cam and still be able to roast >any rice burner out there. plus if you save the money that way you will be >able to fix the same engine up with more horse power. you'll be able to >eat up any honda with a little tender love and care towards your chevelle > > > > [Mabs, Kenneth] -Original Message- > From: David Hovanessian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:40 PM > To: chevelle-list > Subject: [Chevelle-List] building up a 70 > > I have got a 70 Chevelle with a 350 and a turbo 350 tranny. I am >about to get a job so I can start building my baby into a mean chevy. I am >tired of hearing all my fellow classmates talk about their damn hondas and >how fast they are. Well anyways I am wanting to put a big block into it >like a 454 or something like that. If I do that I am also going to replace >the tranny with a 400 turbo and probably the rearend. I am in auto service >at tech school and we just took apart an engine and rebuilt it. I do feel >pretty comfortable with that part of the rebuild. I was just going to ask >how hard is it to put in a 12 bolt rear end. What I mean what all is >involved in it and what special tools are needed. I am also wondering >about the suspension and the other things involved. Any advice would be >greatly appreciated. I am planning on getting the motor out of a junkyard >so I will have some money left over to build it up to where nothing can >touch me. Would this be a good approach or would buying a block and crap >be better. Please tell me your opionons and where I should go on the net >to find my stuff that I should look into buying. > > Thank you for reading this > > Dave > > P.S. I am only 16 so I will have to save as much money as I can and go >with the most important stuff before anything else. > > > > > >-
Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Larry wrote: > something i forgot to add if you did build a pit. a 6 foot deep pit would > need stairs with risers and treads. it would take 9 risers (at 8 inch max.) > and 8 treads (minimum 10 inches- 12 inches would be better) to get down. 9 x > 8 = 72 inch rise and 8 x 10 or 12 = 80 (7 1/2 feet) to 96 (8 feet) inch run. Hmmm...what about a ladder built into either the front or back? It might make carrying stuff down into the pit more difficult but it would reduce the overall length. A friend of mine has an in-ground lift that he got from an old service station years ago. We used it for a transmission swap last summer and it made all the difference in the world. He already had the pole barn so overhead space wasn't an issue but when he hit bedrock 3 feet into the ground his headaches began... ;^) Brad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] BBC VS SBC
Oh yes it does! Two big blocks!
Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > I think they quit doing that because of a potential build up of > flammable fumes in the pit. I was told this years ago. Urban legend?? No, it's not an UL. Recipe for shop disaster: take one pit that people can fall into add many years of oil and grease to the floor and walls waft in some solvent and gasoline fumes drop in one incandescent light for a ignition source and try to find the way out through the flames without bashing your head on the bottom of the car :( Now there are some things you can do to make them safer: 1) build or buy grates to cover it when not in use 2) keep it clean We put down cardboard and then disposed of it as soon as it got oily. c) suck out fumes with an air exhaust (made out of vacuum cleaner PVC and poured into the walls) close to the pit floor and a fan on the far end for when you are using it. Just some ideas that we use to keep our pit safe. -- Cliff http://www.ucalgary.ca/~csimpson/Chevelle.html - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
something i forgot to add if you did build a pit. a 6 foot deep pit would need stairs with risers and treads. it would take 9 risers (at 8 inch max.) and 8 treads (minimum 10 inches- 12 inches would be better) to get down. 9 x 8 = 72 inch rise and 8 x 10 or 12 = 80 (7 1/2 feet) to 96 (8 feet) inch run. so taking a 17 foot car and wanting to be able to get under it would take a pit a minimum of 17 + 8 = 25 feet. plus you would want room in front of car and back of it. a minimum pit (25 feet) needs at least 30 feet above ground to be workable and probably 35 feet. Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] compression ratio
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List David, it depends on what amount of boost you are planning to run, what octane you will be using and type of head(iron vs aluminum). You absolutely can have a blower w/nitrous. Each power adder compliments the other and the total is greater then the sum of the parts. A rough estimate is an additional 25%hp to whatever nitrous jet size you are using. Emil Dusek:71SS-502 NA 93Z,383,Vortech,Nitrous(2-stages) >David Hovanessian wrote>> >I was wondering what would be a good compression ratio and is it >possible to have a >supercharger/blower and >nos? I was wondering for a 383 and a 454 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Would I just ask for the umbrella type seals? Or is it from an aftermarket manufacturer. I did use the stock type. I know this because I took each valve out and just cleaned up/polished the rough casting in the intake and exhaust ports and reinstalled it back the way it came out before I put the heads on the engine. >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:08:49 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Hey Brian - Your Valves seals (if the stock o-ring type) aren't the best >type to use and usually get brittle and fall off. This could be the case >you >have now. The guides are decent, just no seal to keep most of the oil away. >You can always replace them with a late model P&C or umbrella type. The P&C >type are factory one that just slip over the stock valve guide and are held >in place with a steel spring band. The umbrella types just slip over the >valve stem. You can replace them on with the heads on the motor \ while in >the car. It's not complicated, but it is tedious. > >Nick > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:37 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Thanks. I kinda thought that too. I dont know which way the guides were >done. I guess I will find out. Also this morning, I made a point to check >after it was warmed up and I do see a light trace of blue smoke coming out >of one side of the exhaust at idle. If it was still the guides or valve >stem >seals, would it be doing this? > > > >From: "Kent Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:24:05 -0600 > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > >Brian, > > > >It sure sounds like the valve guides and/or valve stem seals. Do you > >know if the valve guides were replaced or were they "knurled" ? I have >not > >had much luck with "knurled" valve guides. Once the knurled ridges wear > >down, then the gap between the valve stem and the valve guide is even > >larger, allowing for additional oil consumption. Much better to have the > >valve guides replaced and honed to size, and use quality valve stem >seals. > > > > It doesn't sound like the rings are bad, if they were, you would be > >smoking while driving. What is likely happening is that, when the engine > >is > >shut off, the oil is seeping past the valve stem seals, down the valve, > >into > >the cylinder. Then when the engine is started, you have a brief puff of > >smoke. > > > > Good Luck. > > > >Kent > >'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) > > > > > > > >- > >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >_ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
Steve: yea you can fall into it, lots of work to built one (steps, floor drain, etc.) very limited to what you can work on compared to a lift.but if you don't have the height and depth a pit may be the answer. how many who want a lift have thought about height and depth of garage? without going into great details some of the lifts need 12-14 feet high ceilings when there is a car on the hoist. also if you got a car on hoist can you open the garage door? a chevelle is about 16 1/2 feet long unless you do a roll up door you need 17 feet minimum just to get car in (20 feet deep is tight) so with an 7-8 foot high door it would have to be another 10 feet back for hard ware (door in up position). so for a lift unless it is just the shortie (3-4 feet high?) you need at least 30 feet in depth (35 feet would be better) and 12-14 foot in ceiling height. Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] building up a 70
hey Michael, tell us us more about the '70parts car -- whats left of the body/interior?. and where are ya located? Rob Means"be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Michael Ishee To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:31 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] building up a 70 As for as young people being into only rice burners (and criticize me if you will but I like most I see), I have a 69 Chevelle with a 454,TH350, and 12 bolt with 4.10 gears and I am 18. I just recently purchased this. Once of my first modifications besides the suspension is putting in a Richmond ROD 6 speed and lower gears for better cruising and top end. I also have a 70 parts car if you need something let me know and I might be able to get it. Thanks Michael -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mabs, KennethSent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:51 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] building up a 70 boy am i glad to here this. i thought all teenagers were caught up in that fast and furious crap. atleast some of us still know what to drive. i have a 70 chevelle with a 350 and a TH350. i am 16 and just started on my resoration a few months ago but i go away to school so i dont have much time to work on the chevelle. i think keeping the 350 and rebuilding it would save you more money than buying a bbc. check and make sure the small block is a 4 bolt main and look into rebuilding that instead. you can fix up a 350 with the right heads and a strong cam and still be able to roast any rice burner out there. plus if you save the money that way you will be able to fix the same engine up with more horse power. you'll be able to eat up any honda with a little tender love and care towards your chevelle [Mabs, Kenneth] -Original Message-From: David Hovanessian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:40 PMTo: chevelle-listSubject: [Chevelle-List] building up a 70 I have got a 70 Chevelle with a 350 and a turbo 350 tranny. I am about to get a job so I can start building my baby into a mean chevy. I am tired of hearing all my fellow classmates talk about their damn hondas and how fast they are. Well anyways I am wanting to put a big block into it like a 454 or something like that. If I do that I am also going to replace the tranny with a 400 turbo and probably the rearend. I am in auto service at tech school and we just took apart an engine and rebuilt it. I do feel pretty comfortable with that part of the rebuild. I was just going to ask how hard is it to put in a 12 bolt rear end. What I mean what all is involved in it and what special tools are needed. I am also wondering about the suspension and the other things involved. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I am planning on getting the motor out of a junkyard so I will have some money left over to build it up to where nothing can touch me. Would this be a good approach or would buying a block and crap be better. Please tell me your opionons and where I should go on the net to find my stuff that I should look into buying. Thank you for reading this Dave P.S. I am only 16 so I will have to save as much money as I can and go with the most important stuff before anything else. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List With the talk of underground pits, we have a relatively new lube shop a few blocks away and they have a huge underground work pit to service four vehicles at once, complete with huge oil storage tanks. Maybe there's been a regulation update to allow them? One way in/out. Wouldn't want to be down there if there was an eruption of one of the tanks, that's for sure. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com > > I can easily see that. Say you're working in the pit and the > car's gas line > ruptures or there is an exhaust fume buildup. You wouldn't want to be down > there then. > > John Nasta > Old Car Network > http://oldcarnetwork.com > > > -Original Message- > I think they quit doing that because of a potential build up of > flammable fumes in the pit. I was told this years ago. Urban legend?? > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I can easily see that. Say you're working in the pit and the car's gas line ruptures or there is an exhaust fume buildup. You wouldn't want to be down there then. John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com -Original Message- I think they quit doing that because of a potential build up of flammable fumes in the pit. I was told this years ago. Urban legend?? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Brian - Your Valves seals (if the stock o-ring type) aren't the best type to use and usually get brittle and fall off. This could be the case you have now. The guides are decent, just no seal to keep most of the oil away. You can always replace them with a late model P&C or umbrella type. The P&C type are factory one that just slip over the stock valve guide and are held in place with a steel spring band. The umbrella types just slip over the valve stem. You can replace them on with the heads on the motor \ while in the car. It's not complicated, but it is tedious. Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks. I kinda thought that too. I dont know which way the guides were done. I guess I will find out. Also this morning, I made a point to check after it was warmed up and I do see a light trace of blue smoke coming out of one side of the exhaust at idle. If it was still the guides or valve stem seals, would it be doing this? >From: "Kent Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:24:05 -0600 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Brian, > >It sure sounds like the valve guides and/or valve stem seals. Do you >know if the valve guides were replaced or were they "knurled" ? I have not >had much luck with "knurled" valve guides. Once the knurled ridges wear >down, then the gap between the valve stem and the valve guide is even >larger, allowing for additional oil consumption. Much better to have the >valve guides replaced and honed to size, and use quality valve stem seals. > > It doesn't sound like the rings are bad, if they were, you would be >smoking while driving. What is likely happening is that, when the engine >is >shut off, the oil is seeping past the valve stem seals, down the valve, >into >the cylinder. Then when the engine is started, you have a brief puff of >smoke. > > Good Luck. > >Kent >'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks. I kinda thought that too. I dont know which way the guides were done. I guess I will find out. Also this morning, I made a point to check after it was warmed up and I do see a light trace of blue smoke coming out of one side of the exhaust at idle. If it was still the guides or valve stem seals, would it be doing this? >From: "Kent Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:24:05 -0600 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Brian, > >It sure sounds like the valve guides and/or valve stem seals. Do you >know if the valve guides were replaced or were they "knurled" ? I have not >had much luck with "knurled" valve guides. Once the knurled ridges wear >down, then the gap between the valve stem and the valve guide is even >larger, allowing for additional oil consumption. Much better to have the >valve guides replaced and honed to size, and use quality valve stem seals. > > It doesn't sound like the rings are bad, if they were, you would be >smoking while driving. What is likely happening is that, when the engine >is >shut off, the oil is seeping past the valve stem seals, down the valve, >into >the cylinder. Then when the engine is started, you have a brief puff of >smoke. > > Good Luck. > >Kent >'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I think they quit doing that because of a potential build up of flammable fumes in the pit. I was told this years ago. Urban legend?? Reed Cecil \"Steve\" Martin wrote: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Josh, > Once upon a time they used to put a narrow "pit" with stairs in the > middle of one side of a garage so you could just walk under your car to work > on it. Might be something to consider, since you are building from scratch, > and working on cars is a priority. Anyone see any down side to that? > > Steve > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Josh Campbell > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ? > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > When I build my garage this summer (already dozed out the spot) I'm buying a > lift or I'll make one, but I will have one They make life sooo much > nicer. > Josh > > >From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Auto Lifts in your garage ? > >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:22:08 -0600 > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > >Superior advertises in our magazine. Al Hemstreet offers a discount to our > >members. Bet he would do the same for ACES members. > >Clint Hooper > >LT5 Registry > >Wichita Falls,Tx > >(940) 855-6636 anytime > >'90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 > >TX TAGS: USA ZR1 > >http://www.LT5Registry.com/ > >- Original Message - > >From: John Nasta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > or: http://www.superlifts.com > > > > > > > >- > >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Car Covers (wolf?)
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Great memory! That is the place. I bought a cover for my ElCamino from them in 98. I want to buy from them again. Thanks, Reed "Rodney." wrote: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Just going from memory, but wasn't it http://www.bigskycarcovers.com/ ? > > Rodney. > 71 Chevelle > Phoenix, AZ > > - Original Message - > From: "Reed McManus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Car Covers (wolf?) > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > I got my car cover from a mail order warehouse in Montanna (?). I got > the information from another list member. Any one familiar with that > company? > Reed > > Dave Henderson wrote: > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > > I had earlier asked about car covers and a few people told me they > > just bought Wolf covers from NPD. I looked in their magazine and I > > saw nothing that mentioned a cover by the name of Wolf but did see a > > lot of other covers that looked to be a very good investment. For > > reference I am looking on page 10 and 11 in the catalogue. I would > > appreciate anyone's advise that has had any experience with these > > covers or tell me where I can find a Wolf cover. > > > > Thanks > > > > Michael > > > > For what its worth, I got mine from Lordco Auto Parts, here in > > Victoria. They have a website (lordco.com,) and I expect that they > > will do mailorder. > > > > I am very pleased with mine. I'd buy another, if I had another car to > > put it on. :-) > > > > Dave. > > -- > > C'est de la bombe, sur le beat je vais me lacher > > paré ou pas paré, mon style est enclenché... > > -Dubmatique > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [Chevelle-List] building up a 70
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Tom - Include me when you email that info out. Tks.. Denny/GA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > David, > > I'll dig the specs out and email em to you tomorrow. > > The first 454 cost me 2500 including me buying the engine and getting it machined > The second was 5000 me buying the engine and getting it machined. > But anyways, i'll zip it on over to you tomorrow night. > > Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
