[Chevelle-List] Upgrading to a factory high-torque starter?
Hey guys, I upgraded the starter in my 67 barracuda to a high-torque mini-starter and I'm absolutely in love with it.. I'd like to do something similar for my Chevelle. I bought my barracuda starter from the local autozone (application was an '88 Dodge RamCharger, though I think any late 80's would have done it) for $89.99.. Much better than the $150+ for a new one plus its a lifetime warrantied part.. My question is-- Is there a similar exchange for my 71 Chevelle? It's an L48 350ci motor so there's no oddball qualities about it.. Any late model Chevies use a gear-reduction starter that I can just pick up remanufactured at the local parts store? Thanks! Raj 67 barracuda coupe (starts by barely bumping the key...) 71 Chevelle SS (grinds for a bit before starting..)
Re: RE: [Chevelle-List] Still Undecided
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I have over $1,500 in my 12 bolt housing, gears, moser axles, c-clip eliminators, and brakes. If I did it over I would have spent the extra and gone with the 9inch. This decision would be based on strength and the fact that I race the car and have swapped gears 3 times in the last 5 years. The 12 bolt will not fail on a cruiser. I have been abusing it for 13 years running 10-11 seconds in the 1/4. Walt Thanks Walt, good info. Just cruiser plans for this one. Might make a couple of trips down the 1/4 someday just to see what it will do when I'm finished. .. Denny - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size
OK thanks for the help. I have agreed with the 40 series, but what about 275-40-17. They shouldn't be much of a taller tire then 235-60-14 that I a using now, considering the sidewall difference. Lojac - Original Message - From: Galen and Melissa Love To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size Another point to consider: a taller sidewall (such as a 60 or 70 series) will deflect more and is more likely to rub the quarter panel under hard cornering. With that said,I wouldn't expect any clearance problems with the 275-60-15. I've got 275-50-15's on 10" wheels on my Chevelle, and they're a perfect fit. I trimmed the innerwheelwell lip on the quarter panel, and in 5 years time, it's never rubbed. If you want to see how the tires look on the car, here's a link to my site: http://www.phys.ksu.edu/~grl4338 Galen - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size The reason a 60 will clear better than a 50 is because when you go with a 60 the widest tire available is a 275, where with a 50 you can go to a 295. The narrower, but taller tire will give more fender clearance. This will also affect the final drive ratio - something else to consider when drastically changing tire sizes. If you follow this link, there is a tire height calculator along with some other good info... http://www.ring-pinion.com/calc-tire.html cYa- Herb - Original Message - From: Mabs, Kenneth To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:45 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size if you went with 60's instead of the 50's you have now wouldn't that just increase the size of your sidewall? how would this help from damaging your quarter panel? -Original Message-From: Craig Cerena Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:41 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size My SS came with P295/50/R15. I think that they will possible rub and damage the quarter panel if I hit a pot hole. I'm going to try and sell them and replace with 60's. They look great on the car but I don't want to damage anything. Craig - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size I am running 275 60 15's on my 70 with 4.10 gears, 75 mph is 3500 RPM's. Funny thing is it gets 15 mpg on highway with the 4.10's and a 500 HP 454. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List According to what other people have said, a 275-40-17 should have a 110mm sidewall height (about 4.33 inches). Multiply that by 2 and add it to your 17-inch rim for total tire height of 25.66 inches. A 235-60-14 gives you 141mm sidewall (5.68 inches) times 2, plus 14 inches = 26.36 inches. Feel free to check my math and correct me if I'm wrong. John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com Original Message: --- OK thanks for the help. I have agreed with the 40 series, but what about 275-40-17. They shouldn't be much of a taller tire then 235-60-14 that I a using now, considering the sidewall difference. Lojac - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: [Chevelle-List] Still Undecided -- c-clip question
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Is there any machining required for C-clip eliminators? ie- is it something I can accomplish in my garage over the weekend? It's one thing I haven't done to my 12-bolt, but probably should for as much as I race the car. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [Chevelle-List] Still Undecided Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I have over $1,500 in my 12 bolt housing, gears, moser axles, c-clip eliminators, and brakes. If I did it over I would have spent the extra and gone with the 9inch. This decision would be based on strength and the fact that I race the car and have swapped gears 3 times in the last 5 years. The 12 bolt will not fail on a cruiser. I have been abusing it for 13 years running 10-11 seconds in the 1/4. Walt Thanks Walt, good info. Just cruiser plans for this one. Might make a couple of trips down the 1/4 someday just to see what it will do when I'm finished. .. Denny - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Still Undecided -- c-clip question
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I used Moser eliminators. I had to cut a small amount of the axle housing off(1/2 inch). The eliminators can be pressed on or some use the heat method. Heat the eliminator ring with a torch drop it on the axleshaft and hope it goes to where you want it. Once it stops it is going to stay. I have used the heat method on stock axles successfully. When I purchased my Moser axles I let them put them on before shipping. Walt = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Is there any machining required for C-clip eliminators? ie- is it something I can accomplish in my garage over the weekend? It's one thing I haven't done to my 12-bolt, but probably should for as much as I race the car. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [Chevelle-List] Still Undecided Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I have over $1,500 in my 12 bolt housing, gears, moser axles, c-clip eliminators, and brakes. If I did it over I would have spent the extra and gone with the 9inch. This decision would be based on strength and the fact that I race the car and have swapped gears 3 times in the last 5 years. The 12 bolt will not fail on a cruiser. I have been abusing it for 13 years running 10-11 seconds in the 1/4. Walt Thanks Walt, good info. Just cruiser plans for this one. Might make a couple of trips down the 1/4 someday just to see what it will do when I'm finished. .. Denny - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List John's math is right on for the 275/40/17, but according to the tire height calculator on Randy's Ring Pinion web page, a 235/60/14 is only 25.102 tall. I know I've posted this link a couple times already, but here it is again: http://www.ring-pinion.com/calc-tire.html . This page has a nice collection of automotive calculators including a tire height calculator. Just type in the three parts of your tire size, such as 275, 40, 17, then click calculate and it will tell you how tall your tire is. I think this is especially helpful if you're trying to move up in wheel size but want to maintain the same overall height of your old tires. HTH... cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES #3509 http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List According to what other people have said, a 275-40-17 should have a 110mm sidewall height (about 4.33 inches). Multiply that by 2 and add it to your 17-inch rim for total tire height of 25.66 inches. A 235-60-14 gives you 141mm sidewall (5.68 inches) times 2, plus 14 inches = 26.36 inches. Feel free to check my math and correct me if I'm wrong. John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com Original Message: --- OK thanks for the help. I have agreed with the 40 series, but what about 275-40-17? They shouldn't be much of a taller tire then 235-60-14 that I am using now, considering the sidewall difference. Lojac - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Upgrading to a factory high-torque starter?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List What is the benefit of upgrading to a high torque starter? Thanks Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of richard a schaefer Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Upgrading to a factory high-torque starter? Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List There is a stock GM hi-torque starter.Unfortunately I don't know the specific application where you can go to a parts store get one off the shelf.It is different than the stock version by a connection from the battery post of the solenoid into the starter body. You can see pictures below. The first is definitely stock GM - not ure about the summit/sallee. http://my.stratos.net/~killerklown/Sale/ http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/Proform/images/66268d.jpg http://store.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/norm/SUM-G1665_m.jpg A standard starter does not have this connection. I went to a starter rebuild shop and the counter guy knew exactly what I needed. I did one more search found this at www.advanceauto.com http://www.partsamerica.com/product_images/img/pt/ATR3560S.jpg I looked for a starter for a 1970 402 chevelle. The connection is very obvious in this picture.If its a stock type GM starter doesn't have this connection, it is not a high torque version. Their price is $58.00 I paid about the same. rick schaefer 72 El Camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html TPI 350-700r4 http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L Team Chevelle # 0038 ACES #0140 Hey guys, I upgraded the starter in my 67 barracuda to a high-torque mini-starter and I'm absolutely in love with it.. I'd like to do something similar for my Chevelle. I bought my barracuda starter from the local autozone (application was an '88 Dodge RamCharger, though I think any late 80's would have done it) for $89.99.. Much better than the $150+ for a new one plus its a lifetime warrantied part.. My question is-- Is there a similar exchange for my 71 Chevelle? It's an L48 350ci motor so there's no oddball qualities about it.. Any late model Chevies use a gear-reduction starter that I can just pick up remanufactured at the local parts store? Thanks! Raj 67 barracuda coupe (starts by barely bumping the key...) 71 Chevelle SS (grinds for a bit before starting..) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] My new motor....
Thats funny..I have $4200 into my 454 as well. My dad was visiting one day and asked how much I had into the motor. After I told him he laughed and said,"That's the total amount you paid for your 72 Torino with all the bells and whistles back in 72." Then I said, "Shhhdon't tell my wife that." Hee hee Bill Vander Werf NoNeck wrote: DON"T LET MY WIFE SEE THIS!!I have about $4200 into the motor. (This doesn't include many of the almost new items I had added to the motor previously. RPM intake, the carb rebuild, headers, valve covers, roller rockers, fuel pump, Proform distributor, plug wires and looms, water pump, motor mounts, and about half of the stainless ARP bolts.)Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jana's Elky down
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List BEEN GONE 4 A COUPLE 'O DAYS. How does one go about buying it back? when i did it i just told my agent i was interested in doing so and he took care of it. Rob Means be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kelly C. Hanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Jana's Elky down Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List If they do total it, you can probably buy it back REALLY cheap,then repair it and still come out ahead,as it looks totally fixable from the pics ya sent. Send Jana our best wishes.. Thanks, yeah I've heard of people doing that before, I'm gonna check the value this morning and see what it's worth so when the estimates come in I'll know what they might do ahead of time. How does one go about buying it back? Kelly C. Hanna El Camino Country www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jana's Elky down
lucky you that it is at least a f**d. mine is telling me she wants a tricked out import. AAAH!!! QUICKget them kids some medical attention! Rob Means"be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Jana's Elky down Don: can't tell them anything? The poor kid must take after his mother's side. lucky you that it is at least a f**d. mine is telling me she wants a tricked out import. Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jana's Elky down
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List At 07:32 AM 02/25/2002 -0800, you wrote: lucky you that it is at least a f**d. mine is telling me she wants a tricked out import. Well, imports are ok IF it's like this one... http://home.earthlink.net/~oobusdoobus/RICE.HTML [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] help !!!! manual trans + Computer problems
Hi, Sorry for the long post ! does somebody have a bellhousing lying around ?? if yes, please measure it trans mounting to engine mounting flange. I could also need to know the measure of the clutch pressure plate(flywheel mounting to the contact point of the release bearing) I have 0,4" less space than I should have to mount the release bearing. and I thougt that there might be some thinner clutches or longer bellhousings around. Any ideas. I also keep getting the messages twice, if I look at them directly on internet they are normal (once) but when I download I keep getting them twice. Larry (Z) Please mail me some pictures of your project off list. thanks !! André in (right now) sunny Italy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Vander WerfSent: 25. februar 2002 16:49To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] My new motorThats funny..I have $4200 into my 454 as well. My dad was visiting one day and asked how much I had into the motor. After I told him he laughed and said,"That's the total amount you paid for your 72 Torino with all the bells and whistles back in 72." Then I said, "Shhhdon't tell my wife that." Hee hee Bill Vander Werf NoNeck wrote: DON"T LET MY WIFE SEE THIS!!I have about $4200 into the motor. (This doesn't include many of the almost new items I had added to the motor previously. RPM intake, the carb rebuild, headers, valve covers, roller rockers, fuel pump, Proform distributor, plug wires and looms, water pump, motor mounts, and about half of the stainless ARP bolts.)Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com
RE: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List John, The calculation of the 17 sounds ok, but i think the 14 is wrong 235 x 0,6 = 141mm 141mm /25,4 = 5,55 5,55 x 2 = 11,1 11,1 + 14 = 25,1 the 14 is 25,1 tall Kind Regards André -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: 25. februar 2002 14:42 To: Chevelle List Subject:Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear Tire Size Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List According to what other people have said, a 275-40-17 should have a 110mm sidewall height (about 4.33 inches). Multiply that by 2 and add it to your 17-inch rim for total tire height of 25.66 inches. A 235-60-14 gives you 141mm sidewall (5.68 inches) times 2, plus 14 inches = 26.36 inches. Feel free to check my math and correct me if I'm wrong. John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com Original Message: --- OK thanks for the help. I have agreed with the 40 series, but what about 275-40-17. They shouldn't be much of a taller tire then 235-60-14 that I a using now, considering the sidewall difference. Lojac - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Car show in May.
I'm sorry, I thought you were in CT too. I could have swore Jakesaid you had been to his place. Oh well. cYa- Herb - Original Message - From: NoNeck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Car show in May. I thought he was still in CT? Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com
[Chevelle-List] Any RPM #7104 users?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Is anyone on the list using a Performer RPM #7104 intake (the #7104's the Q-Jet model) on a mild 350? I have a fresh 350 that's basically stock (ordinary heads, CR in the mid 8s) except for the cam (212/212, .446/.446) and would like to replace the '68 iron intake (#3919803) with something a little better. I already have a Performer #2101 but the #7104 keeps crossing my mind. Thanks! Brad O. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jana's Elky down
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List TRUE,TRUE Rob Means be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dave Corgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Jana's Elky down Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List At 07:32 AM 02/25/2002 -0800, you wrote: lucky you that it is at least a f**d. mine is telling me she wants a tricked out import. Well, imports are ok IF it's like this one... http://home.earthlink.net/~oobusdoobus/RICE.HTML [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Super Chevy
Rob: with enough cubic inches ya win anywhere :) ! Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] help !!!! manual trans + Computer problems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:46:51 +0100 Tigergutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: does somebody have a bellhousing lying around ?? if yes, please measure it trans mounting to engine mounting flange. I have a lakewood in the shed and it is 6 3/8 inches. I can't help with the rest. rick I could also need to know the measure of the clutch pressure plate (flywheel mounting to the contact point of the release bearing) I have 0,4 less space than I should have to mount the release bearing. and I thougt that there might be some thinner clutches or longer bellhousings around. Any ideas. I also keep getting the messages twice, if I look at them directly on internet they are normal (once) but when I download I keep getting them twice. Larry (Z) Please mail me some pictures of your project off list. thanks !! André in (right now) sunny Italy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Vander Werf Sent: 25. februar 2002 16:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] My new motor Thats funny..I have $4200 into my 454 as well. My dad was visiting one day and asked how much I had into the motor. After I told him he laughed and said,That's the total amount you paid for your 72 Torino with all the bells and whistles back in 72. Then I said, Shhhdon't tell my wife that.Hee hee Bill Vander Werf NoNeck wrote: DONT LET MY WIFE SEE THIS!!I have about $4200 into the motor. (This doesn't include many of the almost new items I had added to the motor previously. RPM intake, the carb rebuild, headers, valve covers, roller rockers, fuel pump, Proform distributor, plug wires and looms, water pump, motor mounts, and about half of the stainless ARP bolts.)Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] manufacturing scripts emblems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I am talking with a machinist about manufacturing some scripts and emblems that are not currently available as repros. We are working on the first couple already. The guy is already manufacturing scripts and emblems for antique motorcycles, and his work is excellent. If anybody has been searching for a script or emblem that they can't find anywhere, please let me know. We will make anything that there is a demand for. So cast your vote to have your favorite script or emblem reproduced. For every piece, we will also need a sample to work from. So in many cases I will need somebody to send a used piece that we can use as a model (doesn't matter if they are weathered or pitted, as long as we can see what they are supposed to look like, where the mounting pins are, what color paint [if any] is supposed to be there, etc.). Those pieces will be returned, and we will give you a break on the repro for helping us out. Thanks, John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] help !!!! manual trans + Computer problems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sorry guys, I meant 0,4 (10mm) Kind Regards André -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Ishee Sent: 25. februar 2002 21:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Chevelle-List] help manual trans + Computer problems Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Larry I dont believe that .04 and 4/10 are the same thing. .4=4/10 Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] help manual trans + Computer problems Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:25:17 EST In a message dated 2/25/2002 9:10:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: andre when you say 0.4 in? are we talking 4/10 (. 04) of an inch or ??/ Larry (z) _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] help !!!! manual trans + Computer problems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List What I mean is. Available space is 6.3 (160mm) and I need 6,7 (170mm) Sorry about all the confusion, but you know, I'm a metric guy. Guys, thanks for the match at the Olympics. Needless to say that I am quite proud that small Norway (4,5 million inhabitants) took as many gold medals as BIG USA. Kind Regards André -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Ishee Sent: 25. februar 2002 21:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Chevelle-List] help manual trans + Computer problems Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Larry I dont believe that .04 and 4/10 are the same thing. .4=4/10 Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] help manual trans + Computer problems Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:25:17 EST In a message dated 2/25/2002 9:10:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: andre when you say 0.4 in? are we talking 4/10 (. 04) of an inch or ??/ Larry (z) _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 350 slip
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey out there..It seems I started my car the other day and after putting it in rev. I tried to put it in park and it stayed in rev. I had to shift from 1 to park a couple of times to get it to stay??? Is there an easy fix for this that i can do? what do you all think it is? fluid is full. I have a turbo 350 with a shift kit, 350 engine bored 20 over. thanks mike Chevelle owners Join this site! http://pub45.ezboard.com/bchevellemusclecars - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] 350 slip
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sounds like you need to adjust the linkage and/or replace some linkage bushings. John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com -Original Message- Hey out there..It seems I started my car the other day and after putting it in rev. I tried to put it in park and it stayed in rev. I had to shift from 1 to park a couple of times to get it to stay??? Is there an easy fix for this that i can do? what do you all think it is? fluid is full. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 350 slip
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sounds like a linkage problem. Check that first. Emil Dusek michael andrews wrote: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey out there..It seems I started my car the other day and after putting it in rev. I tried to put it in park and it stayed in rev. I had to shift from 1 to park a couple of times to get it to stay??? Is there an easy fix for this that i can do? what do you all think it is? fluid is full. I have a turbo 350 with a shift kit, 350 engine bored 20 over. thanks mike Chevelle owners Join this site! http://pub45.ezboard.com/bchevellemusclecars - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Air Lift Kits
Has anyone used the Air Lift Kits on their rear suspension? I was thinking about it and was looking for some feedback before making the purchase. Better yet, does anyone know of a complete kit that is offered for a 69 Chevelle. When I say complete I mean bags, compressor, air tank, hardware, fittings, and four way independent adjustment. I am looking for a bolt on kit. I saw this on Horsepower TV. They used it on a Dodge truck, but said identical kits were available for passenger cars. I went to their website, but there was not any information about the kit that they installed. Thanks, Lojac
Re: [Chevelle-List] help !!!! manual trans + Computer problems
Michael: I'm bad. slip of the mind i knew that. larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] help !!!! manual trans + Computer problems
What is really bad is I just started a refresher math class? Now I feel real smart! Larry
RE: [Chevelle-List] Jana's Elky down
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Now that that's a rice rocket! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Corgill Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Jana's Elky down Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List At 07:32 AM 02/25/2002 -0800, you wrote: lucky you that it is at least a f**d. mine is telling me she wants a tricked out import. Well, imports are ok IF it's like this one... http://home.earthlink.net/~oobusdoobus/RICE.HTML [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] manufacturing scripts emblems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hi John, You might want to consider reproducing the front grille emblem for the '66 El Camino. Not only are they hard to find (almost impossible) but no body is making them. If you're serious about doing this, I might be persuaded to let you use mine... cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES #3509 http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm I am talking with a machinist about manufacturing some scripts and emblems that are not currently available as repros. We are working on the first couple already. The guy is already manufacturing scripts and emblems for antique motorcycles, and his work is excellent. If anybody has been searching for a script or emblem that they can't find anywhere, please let me know. We will make anything that there is a demand for. So cast your vote to have your favorite script or emblem reproduced. For every piece, we will also need a sample to work from. So in many cases I will need somebody to send a used piece that we can use as a model (doesn't matter if they are weathered or pitted, as long as we can see what they are supposed to look like, where the mounting pins are, what color paint [if any] is supposed to be there, etc.). Those pieces will be returned, and we will give you a break on the repro for helping us out. Thanks, John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Desktop dyno-ing Josh's 454
Josh, The only heads I could find that were similar to yours are the GM 702. They're oval port and have the same size valves. The only difference is they're closed chamber and I believe yours are open chamber. I don't think that will matter, Desktop Dyno doesn't ask about that. The other thing I need to know is the partnumber for your cam. Thanks. Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES #3509http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm - Original Message - From: NoNeck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] My new motor Thanks Herb. They're 781's. They have the original size valves in them. (2.06/1.72?) Wouldn't the porting change the HP for desktop dyno, or no? Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] My new motor Josh, What's the casting number on your heads? I might be able to find the flow numbers for them and then I'll run it on Dyno 2000. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES #3509http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm - Original Message - From: NoNeck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] My new motor If anybody cares, we posted some new pics and specs of my motor and some specs. Hopefully it will go innext weekend. http://www.noneckschevelle.com/album6x.htm http://www.noneckschevelle.com/album6x.htm Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com
RE: [Chevelle-List] manufacturing scripts emblems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks Herb, A good place to start would be to take a straight-on picture, and include a ruler in the picture. That would at least give me a sense of scale the level of difficulty to produce the piece. Is it similar at all to the 1966 Chevelle grill emblem? I have a couple of those here. If the only difference is that it says El Camino instead of Chevelle (same size, font, etc.), I don't think we would need a model. I'm serious. This guy is already making motorcycle restoration parts and wants to get into the car parts. He is also doing custom fabrications for racing applications, and remanufacturing parts for Wankel rotary engines that are no longer available. Thanks, John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com -Original Message- Hi John, You might want to consider reproducing the front grille emblem for the '66 El Camino. Not only are they hard to find (almost impossible) but no body is making them. If you're serious about doing this, I might be persuaded to let you use mine... cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES #3509 http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] 17 Wheels
What exactly is backspacing? What type of backspacing am I going to need to get these 275/40R17 under the rear on my 69 Chevelle? What is the bolt pattern for the 69 Chevelle? Thanks, Lojac
RE: [Chevelle-List] Jana's Elky down
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List That belongs in Bryan's Rice Rocket Hall of Shame http://www.riceboypage.com/shame/ -Original Message- Well, imports are ok IF it's like this one... http://home.earthlink.net/~oobusdoobus/RICE.HTML - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] manufacturing scripts emblems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List John, You might start with a good catalog such as YO and see what's NOT out there yet and ask about the popularity of those items - like Chevelle 300 or 300 Deluxe scripting. Might just be a market for those. How about 66 and 67 grille and rear panel badges of SS454 or SS502? A lot of guys are running a 454 or a 502 in later years as well. Take any year 396 badge and duplicate in 454 and 502. I think there are some 502 badges starting to show up, but probably not for the majority of years. Other possible numbers might be 406 or 468...I think the 383 is being done. Someone suggested (tongue-in-cheek) about SSC badging for Super Sport Clone. Might sell, who knows? Just curious, are these to be castings or CNC machined from stock? Dale I'm serious. This guy is already making motorcycle restoration parts and wants to get into the car parts. He is also doing custom fabrications for racing applications, and remanufacturing parts for Wankel rotary engines that are no longer available. Thanks, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Air Lift Kits
I saw that on tv also. You can buy complete kits from Air Ride Technologies. I dont know the actual website, so just search for it on yahoo. -Tim
Re: [Chevelle-List] Air Lift Kits
I hooked up the electrical and air lines for a 79 Ford truck system. The truck was used for spraying crops, big tank and alot of weight. It come complete and had easy adjustment. DaveIngersoll,OntarioMy web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Air Lift Kits I saw that on tv also. You can buy complete kits from Air Ride Technologies. I dont know the actual website, so just search for it on yahoo. -Tim
RE: [Chevelle-List] manufacturing scripts emblems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks Dale, but with all due respect, that's like the substitute teacher asking who's not here? I would rather have people tell me what they have been searching for and have not been able to find. It not only shows that the part is not available, but also that there is a demand for it. About those 300 emblems, I think the problem is that most people who have a 300 would rather buy SS badges than 300 badges. It sounds like something that would appeal to a very limited market. I like the idea of the SS 454 502 emblems though. I would need to have some for reference though. Anybody have one that they would be willing to loan temporarily? I also like Herb's idea for the 66 El Camino nameplate, and might have to take him up on borrowing that for a little while. The goal here will of course be to make exact reproductions. I am not familiar with machining terminology, so I don't know what CNC means (copper, nickel, chrome?). The plan so far is that if it was made out of pot metal originally, we will make it out of pot metal; if it was anodized aluminum, we will make it out of anodized aluminum, etc. etc. The guy is very confident though that he can stamp or cast just about anything, as long as he has an original as a model. His motorcycle emblems are very nicely made, and he also makes mechanical parts that are no longer available. John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com -Original Message- You might start with a good catalog such as YO and see what's NOT out there yet and ask about the popularity of those items - like Chevelle 300 or 300 Deluxe scripting. Might just be a market for those. How about 66 and 67 grille and rear panel badges of SS454 or SS502? A lot of guys are running a 454 or a 502 in later years as well. Take any year 396 badge and duplicate in 454 and 502. I think there are some 502 badges starting to show up, but probably not for the majority of years. Other possible numbers might be 406 or 468...I think the 383 is being done. Someone suggested (tongue-in-cheek) about SSC badging for Super Sport Clone. Might sell, who knows? Just curious, are these to be castings or CNC machined from stock? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] manufacturing scripts emblems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey John, I don't know about the feasibility of doing these, since they were pretty limited production, but I could use a couple Concours Estate rear quarter emblems for my 69 wagon! Sincerely, Trevor Baker A HREF=http://www.autoobsession.com/;Auto Obsession/A 805-306-0795 Shop 805-660-2253 Cell To subscribe to our email group and be notified when we acquire more parts or parts cars, and to find out about upcoming shows and swap meets, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] manufacturing scripts emblems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I am not familiar with machining terminology, so I don't know what CNC means (copper, nickel, chrome?). CNC = Computer Numerically Controlled - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 17 Wheels
I'm sure someone on the list will post a nice picture to show how backspacing is measured. Basically, it's the distance from the mounting face of the wheel to the inside edge of the wheel. If you're planning on running a 10" wide wheel, I can tell you that 5.5" of backspacing (the same thing I'm running on my '71) will fit very well. Galen - Original Message - From: Lojac To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 17" Wheels What exactly is backspacing? What type of backspacing am I going to need to get these 275/40R17 under the rear on my 69 Chevelle? What is the bolt pattern for the 69 Chevelle? Thanks, Lojac
RE: [Chevelle-List] manufacturing scripts emblems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks Herb, I'll ask. I'm sure that is one that can be answered. JN I am not familiar with machining terminology, so I don't know what CNC means (copper, nickel, chrome?). CNC = Computer Numerically Controlled - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] manufacturing scripts emblems
Supply and demand :) care to have 800 buck emblems ? Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] Desktop dyno-ing Josh's 454
Hey Herb, thanks! The engine builder predicted around 500HP. Guess he was in the ballpark! I'll keep you all posted on the progress this weekend! Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Desktop dyno-ing Josh's 454 Josh, Disregard my request for the cam part number, I found it. So here's what Dyno 2000 predicts for your engine: RPMHP Torque 2000 175 460 2500 218 458 3000 260 455 3500 319 479 4000 374 491 4500 437 510 5000 482 506 5500 505 482 6000 512 448 6500 495 400 7000 483 362 Keep in mind, the flow numbers I used were for a similar, but still different head casting than what you're using. It's strange how the torque dips down in the 2500-3000 range and then comes back strong at 3500. Regardless, you'll have a fun time driving this baby around! cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES #3509http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm
Re: [Chevelle-List] Desktop dyno-ing Josh's 454
Hey herb: think you could run a motor for me? Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] 350 slip
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List when my auto would not go into park , I found out it was loose bolts at the firewall, (i had the column out for some reason and didnt tighten these bolts very well and it gave me problems ) GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Desktop dyno-ing Josh's 454
No problem Larry. I'll need the CID, intake type, carb CFM,compression, header description (big tube, small tube, mufflers, etc), cam specs (lift, advertised dur., lobe sep, intake centerline), and head casting numbers (if I don't have the flow info for your particular heads, I'll try to use something close). cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES #3509http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Desktop dyno-ing Josh's 454 Hey herb: think you could run a motor for me? Larry (z)
Re:RE: [Chevelle-List] help !!!! manual trans + Computer problems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Andre Just the bellhousing. From Engine mounting surface to trans mount surface. rick -- Tigergutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Tigergutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] help manual trans + Computer problems Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:11:58 +0100 Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Richard, Is that included the plate or is it just the bellhousing ? Thanks ! Kind Regards André -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of richard a schaefer Sent: 24. februar 2002 19:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Chevelle-List] help manual trans + Computer problems Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:46:51 +0100 Tigergutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: does somebody have a bellhousing lying around ?? if yes, please measure it trans mounting to engine mounting flange. I have a lakewood in the shed and it is 6 3/8 inches. I can't help with the rest. rick I could also need to know the measure of the clutch pressure plate (flywheel mounting to the contact point of the release bearing) I have 0,4 less space than I should have to mount the release bearing. and I thougt that there might be some thinner clutches or longer bellhousings around. Any ideas. I also keep getting the messages twice, if I look at them directly on internet they are normal (once) but when I download I keep getting them twice. Larry (Z) Please mail me some pictures of your project off list. thanks !! André in (right now) sunny Italy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Vander Werf Sent: 25. februar 2002 16:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] My new motor Thats funny..I have $4200 into my 454 as well. My dad was visiting one day and asked how much I had into the motor. After I told him he laughed and said,That's the total amount you paid for your 72 Torino with all the bells and whistles back in 72. Then I said, Shhhdon't tell my wife that.Hee hee Bill Vander Werf NoNeck wrote: DONT LET MY WIFE SEE THIS!!I have about $4200 into the motor. (This doesn't include many of the almost new items I had added to the motor previously. RPM intake, the carb rebuild, headers, valve covers, roller rockers, fuel pump, Proform distributor, plug wires and looms, water pump, motor mounts, and about half of the stainless ARP bolts.)Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Choke help
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List what are the specs of the carb? how much are you asking? -Original Message- From: Jeff Fischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Choke help Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Great! Anyone want to buy a used carb cheap? :) At 03:21 PM 2/22/2002 -0800, you wrote: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List From: Jeff Fischer Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Choke help Thank You John, the carb is a Rochester 7042210QE 0872 Hey, I can answer this! I found a great Q-Jet tuning paper at this great page of reference papers: http://www.corvettefaq.com/engine.asp Or, to download it directly, click here: http://www.corvettefaq.com/c3/QJet_Tuning_Paper.doc It decodes your carb as: 70 Pre-1976 Q-Jet 42 1972 is the exact year 2 49-State Carburetor 1 Chevrolet 0 Automatic Transmission This is as far as the paper decodes, but... QE Sorry, no idea 0872 Don't know, but I would guess August, 1972? Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
