RE: [Chevelle-list] A/C for your 72 Chevelle
The best way to transfer freon is with a reclaimer pump. Put the tank that you'll be putting all the freon in ice. It will take the freon faster than trying to pump against higher pressures. A freon recycling,recovery machine is needed. Len
RE: [Chevelle-list] 70-72 cowl induction diagrams
I have the schematics to this, email me for them. Len
[Chevelle-list] A/C for your 72 Chevelle,my retort
Bill; I can understand that train of thought. Personally I warranty all my work, and have had no complaints. Everyone loves the new stuff. I'm sure the cars manufacturers and makers of 134-A are in bed together. It makes no sense to have to replace components in a car, and change the oil to retrofit away from R-12. We in this industry have a responsibility to retrofit leaky R-12 systems. It only makes sense not to dump more R-12 in a leaky old system.But, then charge people an astronomical amount to replace all those components to change to 134A?. It only makes sense to use a freon compatible with R-12 oil when retrofitting. I don't care what GM or Ford prefer, I'm talking from a practical stand point. Someone mentioned the flammable component, that's from "hot shot", another replacement for R-12. Bill you don't have much choice in what you use, I have plenty of reclaimer tanks, and even mentioning mixing freons makes me wonder how much hands on you do Bill. Its no problem keeping them separate, and the EPA requires labeling the tanks anyway.And besides that Bill, we both know the EPA requires you to recycle that old freon. I don't worry about "agents" Bill. I'm certified for all refrigerants and have worked for many refrigeration companies. I know the rules, and follow them. If you knew freons like you say you do, you'd be agreeing with me instead of defending 134A as a good choice for retrofitting. I haven't met one other tech who enjoys all the parts changing over pulling a deep vacuum and recharging. All my retrofits include a factory label informing shops which freon is in the system. If you've only got one bottle Bill that explains your opinions. We both also know most leaky systems come in the shop empty. Now personally I then nitrogen charge, find and fix the leak, and charge with fresh FR-12. no parts change Bill, no mixed freons, no big charge to the customer. they pay $60. Is that what your objecting to bill? Of course when your dealing with a factory warranty vehicle you use what they say. Most new cars have 134A.You do what your told, and I don't blame you. I'm a realist. I like to do what makes sense and works. On old muscle cars there is no factory warranty anymore Bill. Why change all those factory parts to retrofit to 134A? pull a vacuum and recharge it with FR-12. be done with it. Bill,I am a professional tech, and a shop owner myself. I own and operate Federation refrigeration here in Kansas city. I'm licensed and insured. I do have to answer for what I do Bill, and I do not advocate "mixing freons". I bet I have 13 different tanks on my truck right now. along with 4 sets of manifold gauges, one especially made for 134A alone. Another replacement for R-12 "in commercial systems" is MP-39. It requires an oil change frommineral to polyolester oil.Again only 80 percent of the original R-12 charge is needed. Its no fun converting leakingR-12 commercial units when removing the compressoroil and replacing it. The compressor has to be cut loose and physically dumped upside down to get the oil out. (I'm talking about the smaller units, the larger ones have oil ports)Replacing it with the same amount of polyolester oil. Just like 134A the dryers get changed, and any accumulator or other oil holding device. On my next retrofit I plan on using FR-12 instead of all that work. It keeps my customers costs down, that's what they want. Any questions? call the people who make the stuff. 1-800-555-1442. want to talk shop with me? 816-921-6984.Len Snow
RE: [Chevelle-list] A/C for your 72 Chevelle
Clint; That doesn't make any sense. All freons are separate and can be handled as such. I do this for a living. R-134A is the stuff the EPA insists you don't mix with other freons insofar as to make a law requiring us to use separate gauges for 134A. R-12, FR-12, R-22, R-502, all can be handled with the same equipment. Somebody's not giving you the facts Clint. And most probably its because they don't normally order that freon. And like I said before, its referred to with only two names. FR-12, and FRGC 12, Its not called Freeze-12. Hey let me go out to the van and get you some information...IGC InterCool Energy Corp.1-800-555-1442, very nice people in Latham NY. give them a call, they make the FR-12, and they may even remember me because I've called and told them what a great product it is. check it out for yourself. They may even have a number of a technician in your area to convert you, although they too were happy to hear it worked in cars. they made it for stationary refrigeration equipment. I can only speak from my experience. Its worked in cars for me with no oil or gasket change since the summer of 1997. just pull a vacuum in an r-12 system and recharge to 80 percent of the factory charge. I find an ounce or two more usually does it.I bet I alone have converted a hundred cars and trucks. Let me know what you find out. Len
[Chevelle-list] A/C for your 72 Chevelle
Stanley; and others on the list; I'm a refrigeration specialist. Since 1997 I have been using FR-12 to replace R-12 in the old cars. No oil change, no gasket change, "NO OIL" change. big difference to having some place chop out all your old components telling you they have to to change the oil. R-134A uses a "polyoester" oil. R-12 (and FR-12) use mineral oil. Most freons use mineral oil. I can assure you all that R-134A is junk in retrofitting your old R-12 systems. Why go through the hassle? I pull a deep vacuum and charge the system with the recommended 80 percent of the original R-12 charge.Yeah, I know no one carries FR-12 (the stores) actually you can find it if you look. Check with a refrigeration company, not a heating and cooling company. Its also cheaper than the other freons. If your in the Kansas city area bring your Chevelle by the house. I can convert you to FR-12 in 30 minutes while you watch and learn. Usual charge? $60.I use it in my service van too. This works on all Chevelles pre 90. Ever see what happens to a 134-A system that gets moisture in it? turns everything inside it to a white peanut butter substance that can't be cleaned. Gotta condemn it. (something I see allot with small commercial units that run the liquid line through the water pan to evaporate water from the evaporator). I suppose the new cars already with R-134A are okay because they were built that way. Don't forget to wash your radiator and the condenser in front of it every 6 months. a dirty condenser raises the pressure of the freon, and on a hot day it will raise quite high(250-350 lbs per square inch), thereby finding or making a leak. This little tidbit brought to you by Len Snow. Federation Refrigeration E.47th terrace Kansas city, MO 64129 (816)921-6984
RE: [Chevelle-list] A/C for your 72 Chevelle
Clint; actually it is also called Frigic 12. great stuff. got 20 lbs on the truck now.
RE: [Chevelle-list] desktop DYNO results
Thanks Brad. I was hoping for 400hp,maybe all I need is a cam and a Demon carb. Maybe I'll just settle for monster torque across the rpm band. Can you tell me anything about these 441 heads? i.e.maybe the cc's? They kept the press in studs. Len
[Chevelle-list] desktop DYNO - me too Brad! Merry X-Mas from DPeppin
Hey Brad Can you come up with anything for this combo? a 2 bolt main 1974 400 small block bored .030 over. TRW diamond top 9.5 to 1 compression pistons. The cam is a Comp cams 270H magnum cam(lift .470"). The 1974 441 casting heads were fitted with 2.02 intake and 1.90 TRW stainless valves, polished and ported. there is a set of 1.6 magnum roller rockers, eagle 1 5/8 headers hooked up to 2.5 inch exhaust through a set of Dynomax super turbos. Top this off with a edelbrock performer with a quadrajet. The ignition is an accel power coil HEI. Did I miss anything? This is pushing on a 350 turbo tranny and a 2.73 rear end. Thanks for your help! Len Merry Christmas to "the list" from Len Snow Diane Peppin.
[Chevelle-list] Graham is right
I'm all for that Graham, add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your list. The guy stiffed me for $70 on a service call to install 2 ice machines the day before they opened. I had to get everyone together;plumbers(there were no water lines) the electricians(there were no 220 outlets) on their last day to work in the joint no less. I submitted an invoice that day, and after 6 weeks of emails I get a check for partial payment and a message not to call them again. Diane about had a fit. Which reminds me; Diane wishes everyone a happy holiday season. I think I'll put it out under its own heading. Anyway, anyone who enjoys ebombing, or spamming the jerks who deserve it, have at him. Len
[Chevelle-list] Keeping the El
John
I'm a native of Ithaca, NY. though I've been out
here in Missouri a long time now(20yrs). I'm very sure you could find someplace
away from the city to store your Elky. I can understand the city troubles; but
in reality you don't want to drive it, or keep it around the city . Store it
cheaply in an old mans finished barn, about 30-50 miles out of NYNY, then you'll
find yourself making trips out of the city, and driving it if and when you get
the chance.Its the best place in the world to go cruising, and in each
small town people look up and give you the high five when they see a hot looking
ride. (try highway 20 west) I had so much fun vacationing a drive back to
upstate. The car was in primer and some guy in St.Louis offered me 10k at a gas
pump. My father once told me the best way to see the country is to move to the
city. He said he never spent more time fishing the Salmon river then when he
sold insurance in Syracuse many many years ago. Just my 2
cents
Len Snow
"Chevelle"made the old fashioned way..in the USA
Oh
yeah?, well I passed your ford yesterday ;-)
400 horses and flying low
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RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: Covering seat and foam
Rich; I'd be very interested in a copy if they cover 72 chevelle bucket seats. I'm using Diane's chevelle list email, you can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Len 72 Malibu
[Chevelle-list] SEM products for sale
Bill; I would be interested in those items. Give me an address to mail the money, or do you take paypal? Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as this is Diane's mailbox. Len Snow P.S. I promised I'd delete the spam and save her Chevelle list. I read it once in a while, and would subscribe but don't think we need twice the emails that seem to usually add up quick. Besides, I'd never have the courage to try to unsubscribe (grin) You guys are tough as nails in here. Thanks for treating Diane like one of the guys. She really enjoys this place, and always has something to tell me. I wish she were coming home soon, She's a great cook as well as a top notch Chevy mechanic. I want to try to clean up the dash she has hanging in the garage before she gets back. It would be a nice surprise. Course she'll be happy if I just do some dishes...LOL. Len
[Chevelle-list] Chevy's don't drip? ever??
Larry; Dave Larry's idea of putting a f**d on the bottom was cool, but who'd own a f*rd? I want to agree with you about Chevy's not leaking oil, but I've yet to see any car not drip something once in a while. I understand you can install drip trays between the wheel runners which makes sense. I'm just glad I can get along without a backyard buddy. I'll wait till I own a couple of nice Chevy's then get one. :-Diane
[Chevelle-list] 72 Chevelle 307 emblems
I still haven't heard from anyone on the placement of 307 emblems on the 72 Malibu. Do they go behind the MALIBU emblem on the fender? And.. If I decide to opt for the 400 Emblems to match my engine, where would they go? On my 71 Kingswood estate the 400 emblems were located on the front fenders at the bottom. I've looked at hundreds of pictures with no clue yet. Somebody send me a clue :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle special effects paint*
Rocky; I used Lens handle at Team Chevelle, (Guess I need to start my own) and got no replies to the paint question. Thankfully Carl is looking into it for me. Thanks for the advice though. :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] 72 Chevelle 307 emblems
Dale; hmm Well, I thought my original fenders had the MALIBU on them, there were other holes also which I thought held the 350. I have seen 72's with MALIBU 350 on each fender. I have a set of 307 emblems which now I imagine must have gone to an earlier model. Thanks for the pictures too. Seems I'm still a little confused. I suppose Just Malibu would be fine. I was hoping to badge the beast one way or another. Back to do it my way huh. Maybe since I'm shooting to clone it I could put the SS on the fenders and the 400 Emblems right below it. (sigh) no, I don't like that idea... I'm looking for more Ideas..:-}iane
RE: [Chevelle-list] 72 Chevelle 307 emblems
CARL! What a thought! I have a fiberglass Harwood hood that I can put the Cowl induction emblems on, and directly behind them I can add the 400 Emblems. Thereby not ruining the fenders for a possible eventual change to factory! Your a genius! That's what I call inspiration! And.. Oh wow! the 307 Emblems fit the same holes as the 400 emblems! SO if I ever changed the motor and kept the hood...wella! no problems. Thanks for the idea Carl! :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] etc.
Car porn~, open hood! Ha, now that's funny! :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] windshield antenna or ?
Larry; And my best alternative is?
[Chevelle-list] more instructions
Ed; Your post is old. This subject has been over for a while now. Glad you could finally join the "masses" though. heh heh Hey, anybody know where the 307 emblems go on a 72 Chevelle Malibu? I was thinking on the fender behind Malibu(like the Malibu 350's) and if I choose to "Do it my way" where might the 400 emblems go? same place? I remember my 71 Kingswood had them at the lower rear part of the fender on or near the trim. And the winner is71 Dark forest green metallic(today :-Diane)
RE: [Chevelle-list] more instructions
I think it would be easier to keep the interior green. But don't tempt me :-D Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] to paint original color or not?
Bill; I'm only a winner because of friends like you! :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] to paint original color or not?
Diane: Why don't we ask Guilherme what he thinks about the color change question as I am sure he is still lurking under some rock out there. Grant Grant; Guilherme hasn't shown his font since his outburst. Lets color him gone... More Chevelle questions for sticklers of the list Are new windshields available anywhere? more to the point, windshields with antenna's inside...? :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] to paint original color or not?
Thanks Trooper, I hope someone remembers where they are. ;-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] to paint original color or not?
You know what~ I thought I was going to confuse myself even more by asking everyone's opinion, and.. The majority did sway me. I should do it the way I want. Thank you ALL for your opinions. They were all very good points to consider. And the winner isI still can't decide...(sigh)
RE: [Chevelle-list] 1969 El Camino update
John; Your making good progress. Keep at it! :-Diane
[Chevelle-list] more instructions for Guilherme Cardoso
Guilherme; It's obvious you can't speak or write English well. Here is some more help. "Oops, I almost forget" should read: "Ooops, I almost forgot." The experlative; "FUC*YOU AS*HOLES" should read: "Fuc* you as*holes". All capitol letters looks like you are screaming, and I can't understand why would do such a thing. It's not the Christian thing to do. If you don't read the unsubscribe instructions when you join the list; you are due a certain amount of razzing by the members of the list, when you ask how to unsubscribe.Of course the rest of your gibberish is unreadable to a true American, so you make yourself look quite foolish. You should feel bad about using foul language to people who were only having a little fun with you. Please stay in your country and don't visit us until you have repented and learn to behave yourself in a more civilized manner. The unsubscription instructions were posted with the subscription instructions(you dork). Do yourself a favor and pray for forgiveness, you were quite rude. God will forgive you, if you ask him to... ..We might if your real nice(but it's pretty doubtful). If your still upset, well, it's your own fault. Get a sense of humor. You can find one at www.Getasenseofhumor.com If that link doesn't work try sitting on a railroad spike pointed straight up. Now go wash your mouth out with soap and tell your preacher what you've done. You've been a bad bad foreigner, and you should sell your Chevy to a nicer person. Maybe you should join www.Beemer.org, you have the right attitude. Thanks to you I now have to pray for you, and me, and I really have a busy day planned. Good luck getting unsubscribed, with any luck your mailbox will be full of replies just like mine. If you have trouble understanding them, get a dictionary to go along with your bible. If you don't read the bible, have a great time in Hell!. :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Diane's reply
Thanks guys for all the kudos. He shouldn't have used such language over a little ribbing. It's not like we force our list on him. Some people just can't take a joke. I wonder if he got of the list yet? :-Diane
[Chevelle-list] to paint original color or not?
Okay folks; I'm looking for opinions. My Chevelle is a 72 Malibu 307 from the factory. I have already changed the drums to rotors but other than that its like it was built. I have the numbers matching 307, but right now it has a 400sb built to go fast. That can be replaced with the original. THE QUESTION IS, should I paint it the original Gulf Green Metallic?(which I do not like) or paint it a color I can stomach. I know I answered my own question just now, but I want opinions. I'd like to show it some day, do you lose a lot of points for changing the color? Should I care what others think?,build it the way I want it?, or try to keep it perfectly kosher with the build sheet?. I'd like allot of opinions, THANKS!:-Diane
[Chevelle-list] Chevelle special effects paint
Carl; Rocky; I looked at Team Chevelle with no luck on paint answers to my questions. I need the steering wheel centers black paint that looks like vinyl when applied. I have a perfect picture but can't post it here. Send me your emails and I will send you a photo. I also need the rough textured paint for the chrome headlight rings that make the SS have raccoon type eyes, instead of the solid chrome look. I think its specific to 71-72 model Chevelles. Thanks Guys! :-Diane
[Chevelle-list] What me unsubscribe?!heheh
Guys; Thanks so much!. It's great being one of the group. I won't unsubscribe. Well I'm pretty darn sure I'll never ask how ;-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Any opinions? Jason Boivin
Jason, for some reason when I email you it doesn't seem like they're getting through. If you could, please send me your phone number offline so we can talk about your car. Thanks.Herb Lumpp Yeah, no kidding..selective postings seem to be the norm here...Even if the posts are specifically for Chevelles.
RE: [Chevelle-list] Who is in charge of emails here?
John;
The questions go through, just not postings with pictures
attached. And if my questions are going through,no one has answered the
question "who is in charge of postings". And I've had no reply to my paint
questions.:-{ Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Who is in charge of emails here?
Thanks Dale! :-Diane
[Chevelle-list] posting info
Clint; Thanks for the info, at least I'm getting heard. Al contacted me too. I didn't realize attachments couldn't be seen, or the emails that accompanied them. And I guess no one knows about the paint. At least I'm getting some answers. Happy Sunday! :-Diane
RE: Rocky [Chevelle-list] posting info
Thanks Rocky! I looked there but didn't find what I needed. I may not have found the paint forum Re: If you want an answer about paint, ask it on the body and paint forum at Team Chevelle. Rocky
[Chevelle-list] Who is in charge of emails here?
I've sent quite a few postings in the past week. None of them have been posted. What gives? ;-( Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Who is in charge of emails here?
Of course This one was instantly posted in less than 3 minutes. What happened to all the others? Diane~
RE: [Chevelle-list] Who is in charge of emails here?
I just tried to send the photo post again...can we not attach photos here? :-( Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Who is in charge of emails here?
Obviously I can't attach the photo and post it. So I'll try this without the photo... I have an SS steering wheel (my boyfriends) that needs the center piece repainted. The paint when dry looks just like the vinyl on the steering wheel. I stripped it and the metal underneath is smooth. I need to find this vinyl looking trim paint(for a 72 Chevelle) I'm also looking for the black rough textured paint for the chrome headlight rings. Can anyone help me? Thank you all so much!! :-Diane For a picture of the steering wheel paint email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-list] posting problems
Hello?! I've been sending emails and they are not getting posted
RE: [Chevelle-list] Question
"How do I go about posting a question to be answered by the readers?" Robert; That question can be answered by one or all of us. ;-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Front brake conversion
Yeah buddy, I went to stock rotors from drums and love it. Can't imagine stopping these beasts with drums. :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Can not open
Only works after 5 pm every other day, right? Yes that is correct and old beer can opener AKA Church Key. Works just like WD-40 on anything - Original Message - From: Dave Corgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Can not open At 09:06 AM 09/29/2003, you wrote: I can not open your e-mails ...please remove me from your list All you need is an old beer can opener from the 60'S
RE: [Chevelle-list] 1972 SS Grill
John; Yes, just two,upper and lower. upper pt.# 6261909, lower pt#6261910. Not to be confused with the center two , both part #'s are 6261925. ;-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Pelle's site
Patience Gentlemen, a lady doesn't come to the dance half dressed. Let me get some paint on it please. It's been quite an ordeal learning how to go about painting it myself and I'm still not totally prepared equipment wise. I need to get the surface rust dealt with. the guy at ppg auto store sold me some epoxy primer the other day. I found some rust trouble at the drivers rear wheel well and think I should cut out the metal or use Por 15, I don't want to buy the whole 1/4 panel and weld it in, any suggestions? it's all just inside the opening, not on the outer panel yet, about a foot max...I'd hate to bondo it. :-}iane
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RE: [Chevelle-list] 1972 SS Grill
John, actually I thought the SS only had 2... :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Plugs for Big Block?
Ken' Thanks for confirming that. I had also heard that the coil voltage could regulate spark plug gap. I.E. Accel or better means you can go from .035 to .060, is that true? I've been changing the gap on my 44RT's and have been pretty happy with .055 using an accel coil. :-Diane Diane, Yes, you are correct in what you say about spark plugs. It is not the motor size that dictates the plug that you should use but the heads that you are using. For instance, between a World Products (Dart) head and a Brodix or factory head, they can all use different plugs. It is indeed the depth of the threads in the head that dictate what plug reach you should use. Ken
RE: [Chevelle-list] Plugs for Big Block?
Trooper; I'm just guessing here but isn't the depth of the threads in the head the decider as to the length of plug? I had heard somewhere that the plug should protrude very little into the head, and not recessed to far back up the threads. Someone enlighten us please. ;-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Column to floor conversion
Hmm, good idea Larry... I'm confused though, is there another assembly I need to connect the cable from the shifter to the tranny? :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
[Chevelle-list] Column to floor conversion
My 72 Chevelle Malibu has a column shift, I have the console, and a shifter, and the cable for the shifter. I really want to do this conversion. I am planning on changing the 350 turbo to a 200R4 maybe next year with the economy the way it is. Can anyone give me a steps needed to pull this off? I also have the gauges dash I plan to install...you gotta love these cars to want to do all this...anyway, thanks up front for your ideas. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Column to floor conversion
Well, Yes, I have the wiring harness still connected to the dash. I'm sure I have the console wiring harness too. SO, I guess I need a floor shift console to proceed. Do I need to drill holes in the tunnel, and where would that be? :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Column to floor conversion
I mean, I guess I need a floor shift column duhhh Well, Yes, I have the wiring harness still connected to the dash. I'm sure I have the console wiring harness too. SO, I guess I need a floor shift console to proceed. Do I need to drill holes in the tunnel, and where would that be? :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Bagged Chevelle - Sway Bar
Gotta see the bags...pep ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] 1962-283 V-8
Jason; To the right person that motor is worth a great deal. Especially unbored and in original condition... ;-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Cool Photo
Craig; I'd like to see the photos! :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
[Chevelle-list] Chevelle talk
Joe wrote Simply tired of the chat room. Thought this was a serious information link Joe; Yeah, I remember when I remarked I thought this place was here to talk about Chevelles...I got dibbed the rest of the day for it. I think its a good place to get information on our beloved cars, and meet fellow Chevelle lovers. Sometimes the subject seems to stray...like keg drinking, and hooters pictures, but that's okay by me. interacting with other Chevy lovers is allot of fun. I'm pretty serious about my Chevelle. I posted a question tonight that I haven't heard back on, but maybe the 350 turbo change out is kicking a dead horse in here. I'm sure it isn't a new subject. I've still got lots of questions to ask... like, Do I have to get new upper A arms to use the 17 inch rims? Stuff like that. There does seem to be allot of smart people in here. Someone once told me that www.teamchevelle.com is set up for the serious questions. They do have allot of info there. Well Joe, glad it wasn't something I said. Is your Chevelle painted? any pictures you want to share? mine is still covered in primer...soon though...I hope... Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
[Chevelle-list] Chevelle mailing list
Rodney; A great site! THANKS! Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] 700R4 or 200R on a 400SB?
Thanks Dale; Really good information! Pep ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle talk
Dale; Got it, just hadn't got to read it yet :-) been a long day. Thanks for all the good ideas. I'm going to use the rpm calculator after I send this. If I can keep my eyes open long enough to get the idea... Thanks! Pep ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
[Chevelle-list] Heat shield-less
John H Yeah, its working finefor now ;-)and your welcome. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
[Chevelle-list] Testing, Joe
What's the matter Joe? You sure are touchy about things I write. I believe someone else has brought up that piece of junk you referred to, since me. Time to bark again. :-p ep ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
[Chevelle-list] 700R4 or 200R on a 400SB?
John; Forgive me my pun, your starter sounds up to the task. Iknow heat is a destroyer, From starters, to radiators, to trannys and engines Seems we've got oil coolers, tranny coolers, and I'm thinking we need an air intake cooler(but that's just the scientific mechanic in my head talking). Gas is at $1.79 today here in KC(reg unlead) with the holiday weekend coming up, I'll bet we see $1.99 by Saturday. Just a guess, seeing how it wentup .20cents a gallon since last night; when the news made a big deal about the prices in New York, and California. It looks like I'm going to convert the 350 turbo to a 700R4, or the 200R. I think it's time to think about gas mileage. Right now its a 4 bbl Quadrajet Carb, a 2.73 rear end. I have an extra crossmember allegedly fora 400 turbo, and a spare driveshaft. I need the tranny, and I'd like to move the shift from the column to the floor. Is there a known procedurefor this? What other parts am I going to need? I have the console with shifter, and a new cable that connects it to the trans. Any suggestions? :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Paint you own car vs maco, earl?
Ooops, Well lets see, I had it sandblasted(the main body) and it looks like they were real gentle on the metal. The man told me he had done quite a few, and would go easy. In fact he even left some paint in some places where he got nervous. I have a brand new front clip so I'm not sure if I should primer the black factory coat on the fenders. The hood is a Harmon fiberglass one that looks beautiful, I'll probably have to treat that special. I already epoxied painted the frame, but I'm afraid the primer on the body is not etching primer, and its thin enough to where surface rust has started. I'm guessing I get to sand it down again right? And start with metal etching primer. I notice the sandblaster took off some factory bondo near seams and that should be refloated right? I know I can do this. I just wish I hadn't started with the wrong primer. :-]iane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] I need gas
Just filled up here in Kansas City. $1.59/gal, no lines or waiting..pep
RE: [Chevelle-list] 72 Chevelle rear end
Comes up a 3.08 limited slip, spider gear and yoke jammed up. needs work, Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] plastic media blasting
Mike; Thanks for the advice.never heard of ospho, but I'm sure the paint store (ppg) will know what that is. Thanks! :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
[Chevelle-list] Paint you own car vs maco, earl?
So I imagine I should sand down the surface rust then apply it, sand again and primer? I wish I was a car painter. I have almost all of the equipment needed to do it, (painted houses) and with a little guidance I hope to paint it myself. ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
[Chevelle-list] 72 Chevelle rear end
1972 SS 350/4 bbl L48 rear end Number CA 0902W Any ideas? Thanks! :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] 72 Chevelle rear end
Dale; Thanks for the info. Looks like you covered it. I'm giving serious thought to auctioning it on ebay. I'm thinking that being older might make it worth more. Interesting what you learn about cars from their parts...I'll pull the cover tomorrow and check the gears.Thanks! Anyone interested just email. :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] 72 Chevelle rear end
Okay, I'll let you know tomorrow. :-Diane
[Chevelle-list] 1972 stereo dash speakers
Hey Guys, A few years back I changed my worn out speakers to some aftermarket stuff that had to be rigged in. Now I have OEM speakers, and can't remember what goes where. Can anyone get me a photo of the Left and right speakers mounted in the dash with the brackets? It requires removing the top dash pad. I'm hoping someone (like me) just has it sitting there while all the stereo, and alarm wires get run. Thanks for any help. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] SS emblem pt# 3968564
hmmm my NOS 72 SS grill emblem (which fits to a t) says PT#6264838 ? Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Sound Deadener
Scott: As I'm sure you gather , its the cardboard under the jute pad. jute pad being right under the carpet. :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Back subj; Cruisin' music!
I cruise to good music, of various sorts. But if you catch me cruuzin, I'm listening to ZeppelinPep ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
[Chevelle-list] stereo 72 chevelle speakers, I found it!
Pictures and all, for everyone's technical assistance. its just these little tabs I need to fabricate. I notice that without the original stereo braces the dash bounces more, and isn't as sturdy. Forget OPG replacements go to http://www.antiqueautoradio.com/speakers.htm and get your speakers right. ;-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] OPG WAS stereo 72 chevelle speakers, I found it!
A credit to John Nasta too guys, he's always around! Send me a catalog John, I give everyone a far chance. :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] John Nasta; was OPG WAS stereo
I tried the online store John, it offers me lots of mufflers for a search on 1972 Chevelle, but not much else. Got a hard copy of that Catalog? :-Diane John's certainly treated me right, and my business will be going to him. I have little concern of quality issues with him, because he's a fellow enthusiast, and I can call to talk with him personally. Quoting Diane Peppin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A credit to John Nasta too guys, he's always around! Send me a catalog John, I give everyone a far chance. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Electrically Charged
Aye Sarge; These are the people to talk to. http://performance.alternatefuelsracing.com/painless.html:-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] The Race is on! - [Was: Blown Head Gasket PAR T 2]
That little wire causes more trouble...
RE: [Chevelle-list] stereo 72 chevelle speakers, I found it!
Thanks Gene! I haven't changed the dash yet, but I am getting geared up to do it, and yes, the SS amp gauge would be there, I will most definitely cover all the contacts. We don't need a dash fire to spark things up. Thanks for the advice. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] FW: Virus Alert
What is the name of the mail, or virus that we should be wary of? THANKS! Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] SS emblem pt# 3968564
Dale; Okay, thank you. I bet your correct. There are indentations on it leading me to believe it was mounted on the center bar. I can't understand why it didn't show up in troopers Chevrolet parts numbers book. Is anyone here interested in it? I paid $25 for it. Its new. I'm sure it would cost $3-4 to ship also. As for the other part number, well, it fits the 72 grill, until I come up with the right part numbered one this will have to do. Thanks for the input fella's. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] SS emblem pt# 3968564
Trooper,ref: pt# 3968564, with a bow tie cast into it. worse yet the gm box it came in says pt#3977563. GR01.303, I'm sitting here with what I thought were (2) N.O.S 72 GM Grill emblems, neither one correct for my 72. And I can't identify where these go to sell them here or on ebay. Some days we ride, some days we push... :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] FW: Virus Alert
I'm on windows 98 and no troubles here. :-Diane
[Chevelle-list] NPD so far at %100
National parts depot (get the free 2003 catalog ) http://www.npdlink.com/ I've bought most of my parts from these guys and I have to say, never a problem..and they shipped me two fenders also, no damage. Just my input. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] plastic media blasting
I've noticed some surface rust where I had sandblasted the top. What's a good way to insure getting it all out before covering it? Thanks for the help. Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] 70-72 Chevelle front speakers(two)
I sure would like to see a picture of where those speakers mounted into the brackets.( on the stereo twin speakers in the front dash) I'm patient, I've been engine detailing tonight. wish it were slightly cooler.. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
[Chevelle-list] 70-72 Chevelle front speakers(two)
Hey Guys, A few years back I changed my worn out speakers to some aftermarket stuff that had to be rigged in. Now I have OEM speakers, and can't remember what goes where. Can anyone get me a photo of the Left and right speakers mounted in the dash with the brackets? It requires removing the top dash pad. I'm hoping someone (like me) just has it sitting there while all the stereo, and alarm wires get run. Thanks for any help. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Electrically Charged
Yup, that's what I meant.Pep In a message dated 8/5/2003 9:21:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as my car being in the catalog, if it is my car, it should be considered false advertisingSarge: i do believe what she meant was 69 CHEVELLES are in that catalog. here is the link to M H Wiring who i consider the best but not the cheapest. http://www.wiringharness.com/home.htm Larry (Z)
[Chevelle-list] wiringharness.com
Okay Sarge, one more..check this out http://www.wiringharness.com/
[Chevelle-list] Electrically Charged
Sarge; or maybe these guyshttp://www.centechwire.com/catalog/restoration/
RE: [Chevelle-list] Sound Deadener
Okay, okay...its not cardboard. I called it that because the other post did. I hear dynomat is better. Gonna have to talk to John about some. ;-Pep ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2
BL The link didn't work for me. :Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Electrically Charged
Sarge; That has got to be the finest looking 69 I've ever seen. I have a link somewhere in my cpu to a company that manufacturesOEM wiring , and I think your car might be in their catalog, Give the word Sarge, I'll get it to you. ;-Diane
[Chevelle-list] rewire that 30 year old wiring
HeySarge, Here's another. http://www.wire-works.com/ I think that aught to do it. Of course I hope everyone has added these to their favorites, under Chevelle right?:-Diane
[Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2
Rodney; Good luck figuring it out, maybe this is a good time to get dart heads? Look on the bright side, and whatever you do don't get rid of your ride. You take good care of it, and it will take care of you...shy of not fishtailing, these light assed bit"*hes love to slide. I remember in 85 when I was turning left onto a hill on ramp in the rain. I started sliding right away.. to the right, I stepped on the pedal and tried to straighten it up...then it went the other way and finally the third fish tail spun me around completely, and I sat facing the way I came, sitting perfect on the shoulder of the road. It was dark and visibility was 50ft. In the dark as I sat looking ahead..down the ramp on the other side of the road...I saw the cherries on the town cruiserlight up, and spin to let me know he was coming.When he gave me the ticket he told me..I saw you start fishtailing and saw you try to punch it and bring it her around, and I said to myself "if she gets out of this third one I'll let her go... :-Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle Malibu's vs. Chevelle SS'= return values ????
Okay I have to put in my 2cents worth. Sometimes you can easily get your money back from these investments. I got my 72 Chevelle from a bank who repo'd it. I bid and won it for $250. Interior only slightly worn at the top corner of the drivers seat from sunshine. Exterior needed paint, and a fender and a hood. normal brake pads, and maintenance needed. And if you think about it, we enjoy this hobby. What would you pay going out to dinner and a movie? Your labor of love is free. If you enjoy your car, its worth every penny and every hour. And I look forward to skipping many dinners out just to spend it on my Chevelle. I was driving back from NY and in St.Louis a man offered me 10k for it at a gas station; unpainted and all. I said no way; its like which ship would you rather be seen pulling into port on, a cargo ship? or the Nimitz? nuf said, enjoy your cars. :-Diane ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
RE: [Chevelle-list] How to recover a stolen chevelle??
...Don't get it stolen Lo-jack is the best theft protection out there, but deterring the thieves is best. have the vin # etched on the glass, and engrave it behind all the panels, bottom insides of the fenders, and everywhere it won't show.Have a little sign that tells them you did this and hang it in the drivers window when you leave the car. If they can't change the vin, and all the major parts are engraved(by hand,don't pay) what can they do? If you sell the car, the new owner will appreciate it, and if you keep it, its safe. well of course, add an alarm, a club, a brake club, a flashing light and alarm sticker; most definitely make sure they can't open the hood;That's the key to stripping it. There are other rules too, don't leave it at 7-11 overnight, or on the side of the road. screw the tow charge. Even if it cost $200 to get it home-that's less than the cost of a new hood. Be determined to stop them. Be sure they will try to steal it. I have a neighbor who brags about being a criminal, he tells me what these guys look for. I think the chances of getting your ride returned are usually slim. Don't let it happen in the first place. Oh, I guess that's four cents... Enjoy your ride. :-Diane P.S. if the thief can reach your battery he can drill a hole in it and come back shortly when the battery alarm is dead. Best keep a second battery in the trunk as an alarm backup. I use an old 12volt cordless drill battery on a second alarm(the one I set when I leave it in a parking lot.) Try to think like a thief... good luck out there.
