RE: [Chevelle-list] Summit vs. Jeg's

[Ron Sparks]

I actually had forgotten something in an order over a year ago and Jegs
helped me out fine, but that was then.

Since we moved to Boise, I perfer Summit if for only that I get it a day,
sometimes two, sooner then Jegs.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Lumpp
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:38 AM
To: Chevelle List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Summit vs. Jeg's

Now I know why I prefer Summit over Jeg's...

A couple of times in the past when I placed internet orders from Summit, the
next morning I realized I forgot something.  I'd call Summit, talk to the
customer service rep and ask if I can add the forgotten items.  "No problem"
the rep would say, "what part numbers do you need to add?"  Sure enough my
original order would arrive in one box along with a second box containing
the forgotten items with no extra "handling" charge.

Last night I ordered some stuff from Jeg's and sure enough I woke up this
morning and damn it if I didn't forget something.  I called Jeg's a few
minutes ago and the rep says "Sorry, the box is already loaded on the truck
for shipping."  I know it's my own fault for forgetting, but at least Summit
is willing to do something!

Herb Lumpp
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm

RE: [Chevelle-list]Ebay 70 LS6 Convert

[Ron Sparks]

to most rational people, no. But to someone that really wants it, I guess 
so...


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:45 
AMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: 
[Chevelle-list]Ebay 70 LS6 Convert



I'm a 65 guy.  Are those things really worth that much?  
 
 
Phil G. 65 SS
  -Original Message-From: Bill Lessenberry 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 16:29:16 
-0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list]Ebay 70 LS6 Convert


I like this guy.  
He knows what he has & he knows what he wants for it, & he might be 
right as to its value.  I doubt that it'll sell on Ebay, I figure he's 
using this for advertising & hopes to find a private buyer.  The 
Q&A is funny.BillLAt 01:51 PM 12/3/2005, you wrote:
Guys want a good chuckle ?eBay Motors: Chevrolet : Chevelle (item 4594270724 end time 
  Dec-05-05 20:49:59 PST) 

RE: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System-Dyno Run

[Ron Sparks]

Title: Message



my wife was standing behind me when I was playing the videos. I explained 
to her it was like watching a new baby coming into the world. She shook her head 
and walked away... :-)
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry 
ShouseSent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:36 PMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System-Dyno 
Run

Clint,
 
Everything you said about my engine is correct 
except I did go with hydraulic roller lifters and roller rockers. My motor man 
told me to set redline at 6800rpm.
 
I had my dyno run today, and you are right. It did 
make peak power at 6000rpm.
 
442hp @ 6000rpm
467fp @ 4250rpm
 
Just a point of interest, airflow was 720.3 scfm @ 
6250rpm, which is as high as they went. What does the "s" in front of the cfm 
stand for?
 
Videos -
 
www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-setup.wmv
 
www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-run.wmv
 
Larry
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Clint Hooper 
  
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:49 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust 
  System
  
  You guys have to remember that Larry's car isn't 
  running a hyd lifter,oval port big block but a solid lifter,forged piston,four 
  bolt main L78. Those things will easily rev to 7,000rpm and make their peak 
  power well over 6,000rpm. It can handle a higher flow exhaust. I suggested 
  2.5" tailpipes because the exhaust velocity is reduced enough that the extra 
  expense and more noise of 3" tailpipes isn't necessary on a BBC less than 
  427ci. The smaller tailpipes will help the low-end torque curve a noticeable 
  amount and reduce the drone.
  Very few streetable 400ci small blocks will have 
  cylinder heads that can flow like L78 BBC's.
  Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
  H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

RE: [Chevelle-list] 3.73 or 4.56?

[Ron Sparks]

I had 4.11's once behind a 4 speed and a 327 and hated driving the thing on
the highway. I'm not sure what the gears are in your PG but I'm not sure
it'd be any more enjoyable.

It all comes down to usage and what you want. If you want to drive it, I'd
go with a higher ratio. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Brady
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:24 PM
To: Chevelle Group
Subject: [Chevelle-list] 3.73 or 4.56?

OK folks,

I have the opportunity to use 3.73 or 4.56 gears in the 10-bolt posi I'm
going to put in the '66.  The car has a 300+/-HP 327 and PG.  Anyone have
any thoughts or previous experience with the 4.56 gears and the PG/small
block setup?

I drive the car to local shows, and want to be able to take it to Cecil on
occasion.  A relative told me to do the 4.56s and nothing less, thus my
indecision.

Thanks,

Jim





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RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West.

[Ron Sparks]

Clint, the only problem I have with Baer's is that you can't be in a 
hurry to get them. They take forever (ok, well 6-8 weeks, but crap, that's like 
1/3rd of the summer!). Hell it took me that long just to get a catalog. They use 
Road Catalog to sell their catalog ($5)...I bitched after 4 weeks and got 2 
(one from Baer and one from RC). You'd think for that kind of money they get for 
kits they'd want to get it out to you faster. The dealer locator on their 
site is not accurate also. Listed my local AutoZone as an authorized dealer. You 
should had heard that call when I was looking for the 
rears.. 
 
I 
also thought they could had done a little better on the install directions. A 
little generic (the fronts were better then the rear). ...but there is no doubt 
in their quality. 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
HooperSent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:07 PMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global 
West.

Be more specific about lack of support,Dan. I've 
been dealing with Baer for many years and have had very few issues with them. 
Baer's PBR calipers were used on late model Corvettes,Camaros,and Cobra 
Mustangs. If you have a problem with them,your local auto parts dealer can take 
care of you. Try that with Wilwood,SSBC,or others. 
I don't have a problem with tall spindles that are 
optimized for A-body cars. B-body spindles weren't made for A-body cars and 
cause various problems like excessive bumpsteer,increased turn radius,etc. Do a 
search on B-body spindles on Team Chevelle and look for postings by Dennis68. He 
really knows his stuff about suspension set-ups. 
With your car's combination,any particular reason 
why you need an exotic suspension? Just curious.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dan 
  Mascheck 
  
  
  The 
  only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the 
  publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12” Wilwoods for the 
  price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their support! A 
  good product with no support is a pain in the 
  A**!
   
  What 
  do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or 
  heard?
   
    
  Dan
   
  
  
  
  
  From: Clint 
  Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11 
  AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global 
  West.
   
  
  Just my opinion but here's who you 
  need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his 
  stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/  
  I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. 
  
  If you used Baer brakes,this 
  wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing 
  that.
  
  I didn't like my QA1 coilovers 
  because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB 
  springs.
  
  Air Ride Technology doesn't seem 
  to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot 
  recommend them.
  
  Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino 
  ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
  

- Original Message - 


From: Dan 
Mascheck 

 
Clint,
 
  
I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a 
complete front and rear suspension make over! It’s going to cost over $5000 
for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. 

 
There 
has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and 
special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something 
about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! 
Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I 
rebuilt the 12 bolt! 
 
I 
will use the  taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1”, 
which….I think I can live with that. I wouldn’t want to go lower! I am going 
standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about 
the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, it’s their springs they 
don’t like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1’s. They say 
they are too soft! 
 
What 
did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better 
going with a shockwave system? Cheaper?
 




From: Clint 
Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 
PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson 
Headers
 

I can't comment on how they will 
fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. 
They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom 
o

RE: [Chevelle-list] RearEndQuestion???

[Ron Sparks]

Great point Mike. With the high dollar any major component goes for these
days, I think it's always best to plan out the end state and stick with it.
Changing the plan radically could be harmful to the pocket!

My Moser has 3.55 Richman pros also with the 33 spline. All the strength I
need and with the 5 speed Tremec very streetable.


Ron
My '66 http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike f
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:08 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RearEndQuestion???

Eddie, Others will likely disagree with some of my points but not the core
point. Define "Clearly" in your mind or on paper, whatever, the end result.
You see, if some day you plan to put an overdrive transmission in, maybe
not. If you can think your fortune may ever change and put a bigger motor
in, or if not. Just define the end result. As in my case, I did the mosser
thing with 373 eaton and 33 spline shafts. In my mind, I am set. I can put
500 horses in and it is already equiped with the T700. 

So, sit down and dream a little and be practacle and make your mind up. One
more thing. I have found that when I ordered the housing with flanges for
93-later rear disc's that maigt have been a more expensive way to put the
disc's on. I think there are more kits available for the old style square
flange that on the newer style. 

You wallet is you're only limitation.

regards
mike

--- "Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hello all!  Well, I am about to purchase a new rear end for my 70' 
> Chevelle, because my old stock one broke.  I need help in deciding 
> what kind of rear end to buy.  I have a 350 under the hood and it is 
> slightly modified too.  I use my car as a daily driver on the street 
> and sometimes on the freeway as well.  I don't race.  I want a rear 
> end that can tolerate with my engine and also good push and traction.  
> So far I know I'm thinking to get 12 bolt
> 3.73 gears, but I don't know if I should get a Posi or not??  I don't 
> want something dangerous in harsh weather because at times I will be 
> driving in the rain.  Someone told me that Limited slip would be 
> better??? What do U guys think??  I appreciate any help thanks.
> -EDDIE-
> 
> --
> ___
> Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/
> 
> 
> 





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RE: [Chevelle-list] rear parking lights

[Ron Sparks]

My guess would also be what Larry says. I've done two conversions and 
found that you need to watch the adjustment of the switch on the brake 
pedal.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:21 
PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: 
[Chevelle-list] rear parking lights

Jimmy :
Are you sure you are not describing the rear brake lights? Changing from a 
auto to a stick meant you changed the brake and clutch pedal. The brake pedal 
rear brake lights switch may need adjusted to make the brake lights go 
off.
Larry 
(Z)

RE: [Chevelle-list] Re: Tubular A-arms

[Ron Sparks]

Every 
time I use price as the main driver for my decision I usually end up regretting 
it. A quality car needs to have quality parts. All the other stuff either ends 
up broke or on a table at a swap meet (or ebay)..
 


Ron
My 
'66 http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
HooperSent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:13 PMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re: Tubular 
A-arms

I paid quite a bit more for my GW arms back in 2003 than 
what they are selling for now. Ever compared the competition side by side? I 
have. The only other A-arms that are as heavily constructed as the GW units are 
the new Strong Arms from Air Ride Technologies. Pole Position, Fatman 
Fabrications,and others are flimsy in comparison. I'm very leery of oval track 
parts on a heavier,pure street car and their solid bushings are 
not something I want on my daily driver,either. You are right in that GW 
stuff is expensive and will certainly get no argument from me on that point. 
However,who makes an equivalent A-arm for less money? Having seen the damage 
that a failed A-arm can do,I want parts that are strong enough to survive the 
abuse a daily driven car will give them. Suspension and brake parts are not 
places to scrimp,IMO.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  I have tried to stay away from GW for one reason. Price. The price they 
  charge for their tubulars is close to twice of what they were charging a few 
  years ago. They are charging not  what their product is worth, but making 
  as much profits as the market will bear. As long as guys keep on buying from 
  GW, the price will stay high and maybe go higher. Others have proven they can 
  make and sell the arms cheaper,  and they appear to be just as good 
  in quality, bushings not included.
   
  While a few others also went up in price when they realized that guys 
  were paying the higher prices, it opened up the market for opportunity for 
  smaller outfits to come in and take a part of the market.
   
  In my opinion, since they DID  charge a lot less in the recent past 
  for these, and raised prices drastically, I call that gouging for the sake of 
  gouging. I won't be one of the guys paying it to them. I'll go to the 
  competition first to help keep them in business.
   
  I'd buy the circle track arms before I went to GW. But that's just me. 
  It's a free country, you can buy what you want and pay what you want, or make 
  your own. 
   
    
  Steve
   
  
  - Original Message - 
  

  From: 
  Trooper 
  
  I'm considering putting upper and lower tubular 
  A-arms on my 69 Chevelle. Was wandering what brand you guys that have them 
  are running. Also some reccommendations on the best products and best 
  priced products out there.
   
  Trooper

RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 44

[Ron Sparks]

All I have to say is "DAMN!" 

Very cool ride!

Ron
My '66 http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Anderson
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 7:24 AM
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: [Chevelle-list] RE: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 44

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome!

Mike,

You can read the story of my El Camino here:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/703372

Keith


-Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Heiser
  Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:28 AM
  To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Welcome to New Guy


  Welcome Keith! Can't wait to hear more 'bout the Elky.

  __

  Mike Heiser
  1966 Chevelle SS | 1969 Chevelle Malibu | 1969 El Camino
  Chevelle & El Camino Club of Oregon #254, ACES #6659, TC #2712



From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Welcome to New Guy
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:38:25 -0500
>You will like this bunch,Keith. I've been on this List for many years
and
>it's kinda become part of my daily life..
>Gang,,Keith has one of the baddest El Caminos on the planet. Please
join me
>in welcoming him to our group.
>Clint Hooper
>H&H Custom,owner
>1969 El Camino ProTourer
>2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
>http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

RE: [Chevelle-list] (no subject)

[Ron Sparks]

Good to hear Joe. Any pictures to share?
 


Ron
My 
'66 http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:32 
PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] 
(no subject)


Well everyone, I finally got my 69 
Conv. Chevelle back from the paint shop after 1 
1/2 years later.
it was worth the time, the car is so straight, and a perfect paint 
job.
I started a frame off restoration 3 years ago, and finally with the car 
back last week, I intend to have her finished by spring (hopefully).
I will be asking alot of questions, its funny how you forget things after so 
long, will be needing all new parts, nothing old on this car.
Thanks for letting me brag
Joe 

RE: [Chevelle-list] Edelbrock Performer RPM and AirGapIntakeManifolds on 66/67 Chevelles

[Ron Sparks]

I 
believe they can all be had in either style.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry 
ShouseSent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 4:16 PMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Edelbrock Performer 
RPM and AirGapIntakeManifolds on 66/67 Chevelles

Thanks Ron and Clint. I'll take a look at a Torker 
II, Weiand Excellerator and the Edelbrock Performer as suggested. I'll 
call the guy at my machine shop on Monday too. 
 
Can you guys tell me if these intakes have 
rectangular or oval ports? I want my choice to match up well with my rectangular 
port iron heads.
 
 
Any suggestions oh headers and 
exhaust?
 
Thanks Again,
Larry

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ron 
  Sparks 
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 4:48 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Edelbrock 
  Performer RPM and Air GapIntakeManifolds on 66/67 Chevelles
  
  I saw the same when I was picking out an intake for mine, so I went for 
  a Torker II. I had it on both my 402 (with a 750 Demon) and my 454 (850 
  Demon). Matched it up with a Torker Plus cam. Been very happy with the 
  combination.
   
  I'm not sure of the dimensions on the RPM and Air gap, but 
  I'm running a 1" spacer which probably puts it fairly close to the height 
  on the others. 
   
  
  
  Ron
  My 
  '66 http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/
   
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry 
  ShouseSent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:21 PMTo: Chevelle 
  ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Edelbrock Performer RPM and Air Gap 
  IntakeManifolds on 66/67 Chevelles
  
  I just read on Summit that the Performer RPM and 
  the Air Gap will not fit with a stock hood on a 66 or 67 Chevelle. Anybody out 
  there using this intake with a BBS in a 66 or 67 that can shed some light on 
  this? Is it flat out impossible, or are there ways to make it 
  happen?
   
  Thanks,
  Larry

RE: [Chevelle-list] Edelbrock Performer RPM and Air Gap IntakeManifolds on 66/67 Chevelles

[Ron Sparks]

I 
saw the same when I was picking out an intake for mine, so I went for a Torker 
II. I had it on both my 402 (with a 750 Demon) and my 454 (850 Demon). Matched 
it up with a Torker Plus cam. Been very happy with the 
combination.
 
I'm not sure of the dimensions on the RPM and Air gap, but 
I'm running a 1" spacer which probably puts it fairly close to the height 
on the others. 
 


Ron
My 
'66 http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry 
ShouseSent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:21 PMTo: Chevelle 
ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Edelbrock Performer RPM and Air Gap 
IntakeManifolds on 66/67 Chevelles

I just read on Summit that the Performer RPM and 
the Air Gap will not fit with a stock hood on a 66 or 67 Chevelle. Anybody out 
there using this intake with a BBS in a 66 or 67 that can shed some light on 
this? Is it flat out impossible, or are there ways to make it 
happen?
 
Thanks,
Larry

RE: [Chevelle-list] Bell Housing

[Ron Sparks]

I 
had a 621 in my '66 before I put in the Lakewood. Had no problems at 
all.
 


Ron
My 
'66 http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry 
ShouseSent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:33 AMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bell 
Housing

Anyone on the list have experience with the 621 in 
regards to tunnel clearance on a Chevelle? Chevelles in general, but specific to 
66/67 would be better.
 
Thanks,
Larry

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dale 
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:08 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Bell 
  Housing
  
  
  The 396 is 
  externally balanced; the 621 bell housing is the one to use for a big clutch 
  if you don’t see the need for a 
scattershield…yet.
   
  
  Dale 
  McIntosh
  67 El 
  Camino
  1967 Chevelle Reference CD now 
  available!
  ACES 
  #1709/TC Gold #92
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jimSent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:40 
  AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bell 
  Housing
   
  
  Hey Larry, The 
  bellhousing your looking for Im pretty sure is #3899621 thats for the large 
  clutch (11.5"inch) and 168 tooth flywheel. I got one off e-bay a couple of 
  months ago, but you might find a better deal at a swap. or used scatershield 
  for budget reasons. Also I have maybe a silly  question is the 396 
  internaly or externaly balanced ? 
  Jimmy.C

RE: [Chevelle-list] Garage Bathroom

[Ron Sparks]

If it were me, I'd rough the plumbing and get the 
lift.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick 
SchaeferSent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:23 PMTo: 
Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] Garage 
Bathroom

  My garage project has been on hold for a while, but I finally have 
footers dug  .    My wife suggested that I install a 
bathroom.   I was all for it til I got 3 bids that were way more 
than  I could afford ( and more than I thought 
reasonable).    Today I got 2 comparably reasonable 
estimates ( is $2600 reasonable?) for a comode, utility sink and water & 
sewer connections.  
 
  $2600 otherwise spent would get me a  4-post lift or LS1 
for the camaro. I could improvise a sink install and 
could live without the comode.   So for the long term is the bathroom 
a good investment?    
-- Rick Schaefer72 TPI El 
Camino 

RE: [Chevelle-list] what paint for rear end?

[Ron Sparks]

That is what I came up 
against with my Moser. IMO it should had been powder coated for the money, or at 
least an option (maybe it was, but it wasn't an option give to me and I failed 
to think about it until I opened the crate). I asked around and found that the 
heat would be to much on the internals.
 


Ron
My 
'66 http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:25 
PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: 
[Chevelle-list] what paint for rear end?

One thing to note... if you go the powder coat way you have to give 
them a bare housing... the bushings and insides will never take the heat.  
If it's already together... paint is the only way.  I have to do the same 
to my rear... i plan to primer it and then paint it a gloss black can get 
the paint from a local store... or eastwood.
 
I like the idea about using the cherry picker  I was going to paint it 
on stands... always end up scratching off some new paint... 
 
Good luck!!
 
Donnie

RE: [Chevelle-list] SeaFoam

[Ron Sparks]

At the risk of getting 
flamed, it sounds like snake oil to me. I'm real funny about what goes into my 
cars and that just does not sound like something I'd want...


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mumper, 
DouglasSent: Monday, September 19, 2005 6:18 AMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 
SeaFoam

This sounds good.  
Has anyone else tried this with sea foam?
 
Doug
1966 chevelle 406 
SB


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:04 PMTo: 
Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] 
SeaFoam


In a message dated 9/17/05 2:00:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've heard that Sea Foam does a good 
job.Rich
A second vote for Sea Foam.  The stuff works great at cleaning excess 
carbon buildup.  I use it from the lawn mower to the daily drivers.  
Comes in a white and red can at the local auto parts stores and costs about $5 
IIRC.  Unplug your power brake booster hose at the booster and put it in 
the can of Sea Foam while the engine is running.  The vacuum will suck up 
the Sea Foam into the intake.  Let it take down around 1/3 can or so slowly 
and then bury the hose into the can and the engine will sputter and die.  
At this point, reconnect the power brake booster hose to the booster.  Let 
it sit for around 1/2 hour then start her up.  If you have 
carbon buildup you will be engulfed in a cloud of white smoke until it 
burns off.  I always have a can in the garage right next to the can of PB 
Blaster.
 
-Kurt EhrhardtACES 1280, TC Gold 
26366 SuperSport, 66 MalibuEnfield, CT

RE: [Chevelle-list] Jegs, Summit, or ? [Re-Send]

[Ron Sparks]

Well no doubt Hookers are 
a fine quality, but I do question fit. Mine in my BB '66 had problems 
around the steering until I made a slight "adjustment" with a hammer. Hurts when 
you put that kind of money in them, plus the extra to ceramic coat 
them.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 6:51 
PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: 
[Chevelle-list] Jegs, Summit, or ? [Re-Send]

HEADMAN I THINK ARE THE CHEAPEST HEADERS IF YOU WANT QUALTY I WOULD GO 
HOOKER YOU CAN ALSO ORDER THEM FROM ADVANCE/AUTOZONE BUT I WOULD GO TO THE WEB 
SITE AND GET YOUR OWN PART NUMBER,I HAVE A 72 ORIG BB CAR AND IM RUNNING A SB 
FOR EXPENCE REASONS BUT I HAVE AIR AND WANTED TO KEEP IT, IT MOUNTS TO EXAUST 
MANIFOLD AND HOOKER HOOKED ME RITE UP

RE: [Chevelle-list] Jegs, Summit, or ? [Re-Send]

[Ron Sparks]

I use both Jegs and Summit, but since I moved to Boise, Summits beats Jegs
by at least a day, sometimes 2, in shipping. When I was in Denver they were
about the same.

Fel-Pro are the ones I use and have always been happy with them.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Waller
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 6:06 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Jegs, Summit, or ? [Re-Send]

I need to buy some headers and a one piece oil pan gasket.  My local speed
shop moved a ways further away, so I'm thinking I might as well buy mail
order.  Summit and Jegs are the only ones that came to mind, and they are
both the same price.  I could also order from someone else if people here
have ideas.

Also, any idea which gaskets are the best?  Fel-Pro has been my choice for
engine kits and stuff, but I'm also open to recommendations if I should look
at someone else.  I want the one piece for simplicity and leak resistance.
 
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes  | 275/40/17 Kumho MX

RE: [Chevelle-list] 454

[Ron Sparks]

You know you have it bad when you buy a block to clean up parts in your
garage :-) 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Lumpp
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 7:41 PM
To: Chevelle List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] 454

I finally found a good 454 block for the Vette!  Now I have a place to put
all the left over parts from the El Camino's engine. :)

Herb Lumpp
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm

RE: [Chevelle-list] 65 Console

[Ron Sparks]

Ron, I 
was looking pretty hard for awhile. Most were fairly beatup going for $300 plus. 
I've seen some real nice ones on Ebay going for over $700! I gave up on it and 
decided that the money was better spent on other areas of the car (for the time 
at least).
 
Ron
My '66 
http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron 
MalespinSent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:21 PMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 65 
Console


I was inquiring awhile ago about a 4 speed console for my 67 Malibu.  
I got an add from OPG for consoles available in Sept. for around $325.  I 
just don't know what the quality is.  I don't want something cheap 
looking!
 
Ron

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Benjamin 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:51 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 65 
  Console
  Sorry It wasn't me that was looking for one. Someone else on 
  the list was???I was just telling what I seen on Ebay that 
  night.DaveIngersoll,OntarioMy web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/- 
  Original Message - From: "Larry Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: "Chevelle List" 
  Sent: 
  Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:56 AMSubject: [Chevelle-list] 65 
  Console> Ben,>> I have a console that I bought 
  used, but never installed it in my 65> SS.  I bought the console 
  and other parts to convert my 65 SS from an> automatic.  They were 
  purchased from Chevy Sports in Rancho Cordova by> Sacramento CA.  
  I called to see if they had a console, and he said no.> He said they 
  are pretty rare and that no after-market is available yet.> He said 
  they are worth about $800. if you can find one.  If you are> still 
  interested, I will send a pics and talk price.  I also have a> 
  4-speed and original linkage.  The 4 speed worked very well, but 
  it> needs a second gear sincro - it shifts great up in all gears but I 
  had> to double clutch to shift down to second gear.  I never used 
  the linkage> - bought new Hurst.  I went to a Richmond 5 sp in 92 
  - so the 5 sp has> been sitting in the garage for a while.  I will 
  give you more detail if> you are interested.>> Larry 
  Williams>> 
209-763-5493>>>

RE: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 25, Issue 73

[Ron Sparks]

I forgot about the Monte! And it looks like the Impala in '06 will offer a
v8.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Sparks
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:09 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 25, Issue 73

Yes they do look better...and they do perform. I would just like to see GM
step up and do something special with it. Look what our options are from
them for a V8, rear wheel car - a truck (have a '04 Tahoe), Corvette (a lot
of money), GTO, and a Cadillac CTS-V (I drove a friend's CTS-V and it
rocked, but again a lot of money).

My family will be in the market for a new ride sometime soon ('bout time to
get rid of the DeVille - the "old man car") and I'm just not seeing anything
on the GM side that fits the bill.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:08 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 25, Issue 73

I don't think any offense was taken,Ron. The 04 GTO was kinda bland. Don't
the 05 models have the new scooped hood?
The new 400hp LS2 engine doesn't hurt anything,either.
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From: "Ron Sparks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Didn't mean offend by my comments, but to me the styling of the 
> current
GTO
> is rather bland. GM has a great plateform to build from, they just 
> have
not
> hit the right spot with me.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> you may think that about the GTO, but the 05' with the 6.0L vette 
> engine will beat down the charger no matter what engine you get with 
> it.  for the money you cant get a charger for 30k with the good 
> engine.  the mustang is cheaper then the gto yes but hey its you that 
> has to drive it if you buy
it.
>
> performance wise i'll keep my new goat and can beat almost anything on 
> the road.  also everytime i'm at a stoplight i always get heads 
> turning to
look
> at it.  so much for it being vanilla i guess.
>
> J.R.
>
>
> < < <
> < <
> <
> <
> < (unless < GTO. GM
should
> < after
the
> <
>
>
>

RE: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 25, Issue 73

[Ron Sparks]

Yes they do look better...and they do perform. I would just like to see GM
step up and do something special with it. Look what our options are from
them for a V8, rear wheel car - a truck (have a '04 Tahoe), Corvette (a lot
of money), GTO, and a Cadillac CTS-V (I drove a friend's CTS-V and it
rocked, but again a lot of money).

My family will be in the market for a new ride sometime soon ('bout time to
get rid of the DeVille - the "old man car") and I'm just not seeing anything
on the GM side that fits the bill.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:08 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 25, Issue 73

I don't think any offense was taken,Ron. The 04 GTO was kinda bland. Don't
the 05 models have the new scooped hood?
The new 400hp LS2 engine doesn't hurt anything,either.
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From: "Ron Sparks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Didn't mean offend by my comments, but to me the styling of the current
GTO
> is rather bland. GM has a great plateform to build from, they just have
not
> hit the right spot with me.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> you may think that about the GTO, but the 05' with the 6.0L vette engine
> will beat down the charger no matter what engine you get with it.  for the
> money you cant get a charger for 30k with the good engine.  the mustang is
> cheaper then the gto yes but hey its you that has to drive it if you buy
it.
>
> performance wise i'll keep my new goat and can beat almost anything on the
> road.  also everytime i'm at a stoplight i always get heads turning to
look
> at it.  so much for it being vanilla i guess.
>
> J.R.
>
>
> < < <
> < <
> <
> <
> < (unless
> < < <
>
>
>

RE: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 25, Issue 73

[Ron Sparks]

Didn't mean offend by my comments, but to me the styling of the current GTO
is rather bland. GM has a great plateform to build from, they just have not
hit the right spot with me.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PoSTaL
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:43 PM
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 25, Issue 73

you may think that about the GTO, but the 05' with the 6.0L vette engine
will beat down the charger no matter what engine you get with it.  for the
money you cant get a charger for 30k with the good engine.  the mustang is
cheaper then the gto yes but hey its you that has to drive it if you buy it.

performance wise i'll keep my new goat and can beat almost anything on the
road.  also everytime i'm at a stoplight i always get heads turning to look
at it.  so much for it being vanilla i guess.

J.R.


<
<
<
<

RE: [Chevelle-list] new Dodge Charger

[Ron Sparks]

Too bad it beats anything the General has for the same kind of money (unless
you want a truck)...and IMO it has better styling then the GTO. GM should
had gone the way Ford did with the new Mustang instead of going after the
tuner crowd (would a tuner know what to do with a v8?)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:55 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] new Dodge Charger

Yeah. Sucks,don't it?
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> 4 doors?

RE: [Chevelle-list] What do you drive?

[Ron Sparks]

Impressive list. I don't know where I'd get the time...plus I think the wife
might have a word or two for me. I've got a few on my mind that I'd love to
go after, but I'm going to force myself to stay focused on this one and get
it "done".

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:37 PM
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] What do you drive?

Instead of what I drive, here is what I own:

70 SS Chevelle
69 Malibu
69 Cutlass
69 Charger
86 Cutlass
04 Silverado
68 Charger
72 Fury III

RE: [Chevelle-list] What do you drive? (was Free 1966 10 Bolt)

[Ron Sparks]

Yeah we 
went to the Motorfest (didn't bring the Chevelle...I've had it apart all summer) 
as well as the Roadster show earlier this year (and yes I did wait in line for a 
Foose autograph!). I thought the downtown cruize was really cool also. I 
took a picture of a red '67 that night - big meats on the back and a bowtie 
license plate up front.
 
Sounds 
like we should start getting the paper to follow along on the local events 
better :-)


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron 
MalespinSent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:38 PMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] What do you drive? 
(was Free 1966 10 Bolt)


Ron Sparks,
Nice 66.  I checked out your web page.  I'm sure you went to 
the northwest motorfest show in July.  That is the first one I have entered 
mainly for the downtown cruize which was a blast.  They are planning for 
over 1000 cars next year.  You can check the site at 
northwestmotorfest.com  Watch the Sat. morning paper or Friday review for 
other shows.  People hang out on Sat. eve at Rockies on the east end of 
Farview Ave.
 
Ron M.

  - Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron 
  Sparks 
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
  
  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:20 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] What do you 
  drive? (was Free 1966 10 Bolt)
  
  A 1966 
  Chevelle that I have had for 4 years now. I just finished updating my web page (http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/index.htm) with 
  all that I have done on it in the past year.
   
  What 
  kind of car functions/show go on around Boise? We moved hear around the first 
  of the year and have been to a couple shows.
   
  Ron
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron 
  MalespinSent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:02 AMTo: The 
  Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Free 1966 10 
  Bolt
  
  
  Ron,
  I just wanted to say hi.  I live in Boise.  What do you 
  drive?
   
  Ron M.
  Red 67 Malibu
  
- Original Message ----- 
From: Ron 
Sparks 
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net 

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:07 
AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Free 1966 10 
Bolt 

I have a 10 bolt from 
my '66 that I'll give to anyone that wants to pick it up in the Boise, ID 
area -  with no additional effort on my part :-)
 
Differential code CA1025B (3.08 ratio, 
October 25 build, Buffalo plant). Never had any problems with it; complete 
drum to drum. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] off list if 
interested.

[Chevelle-list] What do you drive? (was Free 1966 10 Bolt)

[Ron Sparks]

A 1966 
Chevelle that I have had for 4 years now. I just finished updating my web page (http://myweb.cableone.net/cutter169/index.htm) with 
all that I have done on it in the past year.
 
What 
kind of car functions/show go on around Boise? We moved hear around the first of 
the year and have been to a couple shows.
 
Ron


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron 
MalespinSent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:02 AMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Free 1966 10 
Bolt


Ron,
I just wanted to say hi.  I live in Boise.  What do you 
drive?
 
Ron M.
Red 67 Malibu

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ron 
  Sparks 
  To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  
  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:07 
  AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Free 1966 10 
  Bolt 
  
  I have a 10 bolt from my 
  '66 that I'll give to anyone that wants to pick it up in the Boise, ID area 
  -  with no additional effort on my part :-)
   
  Differential code CA1025B (3.08 ratio, 
  October 25 build, Buffalo plant). Never had any problems with it; complete 
  drum to drum. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] off list if 
  interested.

[Chevelle-list] Free 1966 10 Bolt

[Ron Sparks]

I have a 10 bolt 
from my '66 that I'll give to anyone that wants to pick it up in the Boise, ID 
area -  with no additional effort on my part :-)
 
Differential code CA1025B (3.08 ratio, 
October 25 build, Buffalo plant). Never had any problems with it; complete drum 
to drum. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] off list if 
interested.

RE: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt

[Ron Sparks]

I thought long about going that way. Gear changes are as simple as changing
the pumpkin out (or so I've heard)..and there is a ton of stuff out there
for them. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:50 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt

If you can afford a Moser or Currie 12 bolt,you can also afford one of their
bolt-in Ford 9" units. There's huge aftermarket support for the 9" and more
gear ratios & options are available. I'm running a Chris Alston Fab 9 rear
in my 69 Elky with Moser 31 spline axles,Detroit Locker diff,Motive Gear
4.11 gearset,and Baer 12" disc brakes.
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From: "mike f" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> That was my thought. I upgraded to 33 spline and that
> will handle any performance this fellow can afford.
> Also, there was a point about the Moser upper control
> arm flange casting. They sell some anti-hop brackets
> for the factory 12 bolt. This seems to be eliminated
> with Moser casting as they raise the upper mount
> point which helps with hopping. I think that was the
> way it was, I could be wrong.
> mike
>
> --- Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Higher spline count = greater strength. With finer
> > (higher count0 splines
> > you have more contact area. Probably more to it than
> > that, but thats all
> > that I THINK I know about the subject.
> >
> > On 8/11/05, J. Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm basically looking for the exact same info,
> > Tom. I
> > > want one for my '66.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for all the input..still not sure what
> > I'm
> > > > gonna do, but if the
> > > > difference is gonna be 500 bucks I might as well
> > go
> > > > new..are all the aftermarket
> > > > rear ends about the same, or is one supposed to
> > be
> > > > better than the others? I
> > > > guess I've heard of Currie and Moser more than
> > any
> > > > of the other companies. I'm
> > > > sure this is a dumb question but what's the
> > > > difference in spline numbers?
> > > > I'm thinking of getting a 3.73 gear ratio.
> > Thanks
> > > > again, sure do enjoy this
> > > > list..it really helps a rookie like me. Tom P
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __
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> > Rick Schaefer
> > 72 TPI El Camino
> >
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RE: SV: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt

[Ron Sparks]

Here are the specs I got on mine (Moser) for my '66: 33 spline axle, posi,
3.55 Richman pro gears, 1350 yoke. The 33 vs. the 30 is supposed to be
stronger, though I don't know if most of us will ever need to find out. I
also added their trick rear end cover. The whole thing set me back $2500 +
$225 shipping. More then I wanted to kick out, but in reality it is getting
harder to find them and you'd end up dumping a bunch of money into a used
unit to get up to par with this one.

You'd think for that kind of coin though they would at least powder coat
it

Note if going for the 1350 yoke you'll have to modify the drive shaft with
one. I wasn't worried about it since my tranny comes with a new one.

One company that Keisler recommended to me (I never did call them though)
was DTS (www.drivetrainspecialists.com). The guy at Keisler that sold me my
tranny was very high on them.

Ron
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Brady
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:55 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: SV: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt

I'm basically looking for the exact same info, Tom.  I want one for my '66.

Jim


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks for all the input..still not sure what I'm gonna do,  but if 
> the difference is gonna be 500 bucks I might as well go new..are all 
> the  aftermarket rear ends about the same, or is one supposed to be 
> better than the  others? I guess I've heard of Currie and Moser more 
> than any of the other  companies. I'm sure this is a dumb question but 
> what's the difference in spline  numbers?
> I'm thinking of getting a 3.73 gear ratio. Thanks again, sure do enjoy  
> this list..it really helps a rookie like me.  Tom  P
> 


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RE: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt

[Ron Sparks]

Mike has it right. I'm planning to install my Moser this weekend. Nothing
cheap about it - plus I got carried away as I was ordering...

Don't forget about the shipping either. Moser sends them with the shipping
COD. Had to warn the wife about that $225 bill before it was a surprise :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike f
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:50 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt

I guess maybe the best question to start in these situations is to ask, How
much money can you afford? I did the Mosser 12 bolt thing. Got the
differential and spline count I wanted with late model Chevrolet flanges. I
think the old style brake kits, if this is a consideration at the moment,
are cheaper than a junkyard or new 93-up rear disc setup. But really, it's
all about your fundage, as it were. 

mike f.

--- Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> Are you sure it's not a 3.07 gear?  A few years ago, after years of 
> local searching, I found a 67 rear for $300 and spent another $350 or 
> so putting new bearings, seals, etc in it.  '67 rears are kind of a 
> one-year item due to spring mounting and width and Moser's and 
> Currie's can run a couple grand complete from what I read.
> 
> Dale
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham 
> Wooden
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:25 PM
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt
> 
> Tom,
> 
> I got a 12bolt from a 66SS that will be installed soon in my 67SS. 
> Same width as my '67 but I have to use '66 springs.  I paid $500 and 
> it's in fair to good condition. It's a non-posi 3.08 gearing. I was 
> going to get new springs anyway so it was a good match-up.
> 
>
http://projectchevelle.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core:ShowItem&g2_itemId=
> 272
> 
> It's pictured with my Wilwood rear disc kit installed. I am about to 
> POR-15 it.
> 
> -graham
> 
> 
> Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> > I have to replace the 10 bolt that is on my 67 SS
> (it has a SS VIN #,
> seems
> > like that's another story) and am wondering which
> way to go? A 12 bolt off
> > another SS or one of the aftermarket rear ends?
> It's too late for an all
> > original as it has a 68 396/350 horse motor in it.
> Just want a nice
> driver.
> > If I  do
> > end up with an aftermarket, any suggestions on
> that as well?  Moser,
> Currie??
> > Thanks for any help.
> > tom purtzer
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 





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RE: [Chevelle-list] disc brake conversion

[Ron Sparks]

I 
installed Baers on my '66 (fronts; waiting to get my rear set). Like Dale said 
it was pretty straight forward since my kit also did not require the spindle 
change out. That being said, I had to convert from a single 
reservoir to Baer's dual, so I'm running new stainless lines throughout the 
system (there is easier ways to go). The bad thing about Baers is cost and the 
wait getting them (I was told 6-8 weeks on the rears that I ordered through 
Detroit Speed...took about that long for the fronts last 
year)
 
If I ever do it 
again I'll probably look closer at the complete kits from SSB and MPB...but the 
Baers' sure look sweet!
 
BTW - I would highly 
recommend Pure Choice (http://www.performanceplumbing.com/) 
for anyone doing lines. I saw something about them on Trucks! (project 
Copperhead) and gave them a call. The service was outstanding and the hardware 
first rate. They walk you through the system and send you everything you need. 

 
Oh, and my other 
recommendation of the day -a very cool flaring tool I got from Eastwood. They 
are slow as hell when it comes to shipping, but I've never been disappointed. 
 http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=2489&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=608&iSubCat=615&iProductID=2489
 
 
Ron



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
DaleSent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:51 AMTo: 'The 
Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] disc brake 
conversion


I’d think the major 
brands are pretty good swaps or they wouldn’t be in business long. Folks like 
Stainless Steel Brakes (http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/), 
Master Power Brakes (http://www.mpbrakes.com/), Classic 
Performance (http://www.classicperform.com/) 
 etc.  I can only speak from personal experience but I used Baer (http://www.baer.com/) front discs on my 67 and 
the kit I used didn’t require disc brake spindles like some do.  I’m sure 
there are others out there as well.

Dale 
McIntosh67 El Camino1967 Chevelle Reference CD 
beta now available!ACES #1709/TC Gold 
#92




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Jack 
ThorpeSent: Sunday, July 24, 
2005 9:10 AMTo: 
Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] disc brake 
conversion
 

  
  

  
  Need input and recommendation for converting shoe 
  to disc (front) for my 66 Malibu. Lot of them out there but don't 
  know which is reasonable and good.
  
  Thanks
  
  Jack 
  66
 

RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

[Ron Sparks]

I'm in the process of running the lines from my Baer master and it is just
as Brian states as far as the front being the back port, rear the front
port, and, the port size is larger in the rear. That being said, the Baer
instructions state that the port size my switch from application to
application, so they included adapters. The one thing they maintain is the
which line goes where (front to rear; rear to front). 

Also note, that I'm putting an entirely new brake system on the car. The
original master was a single reservoir unit. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Knight
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:56 PM
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

On factory style master cylinders, the smaller port is for the rear brakes,
the larger port is for the front brakes. Usually the smaller port is toward
the front of the car even though it operates the rear brakes. The size is
the main factor, larger for the front system, smaller for the rear.

  Brian

>From: Fred Dowaliby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
>To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
>Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment
>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:23:53 -0400
>
>Hi Folks,
>
>Here's a no brainer I assume for most of you.
>
>Is there a standard assignment for brake ports out of the master cylinder? 
>I just found that I had it backwards for one of my cars (after 
>consulting with SSBC)  and so I am in the process of correcting it. 
>According to SSBC (and logically, I guess) the front port is for the 
>front brakes and the rear for the rear. No simple matter, as different size
fittings are used.
>Rather than use adapters I opted  to replace the lines with new ones 
>with the proper fittings.
>
>Now I am wondering whether my other car, which is similarly hooked up 
>with the front port for the rear brakes, and the rear for the front, is 
>backwards and should be likewise switched.
>
>I am looking forward to a hugh improvement in braking and, though my 
>second car stops well, if I can improve the brakes with a couple of 
>lines and a little time, why not?
>
>Thanks again for your help,
>
>Fred Dowaliby
>
>

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[Chevelle-list] Loose pilot bearing

[Ron Sparks]

anyone every have 
trouble installing a pilot bearing? I can seem to get it to seat right in 
the crank. It is loose going in, which I don't ever remember it being like that. 
I've alread messed up one roller bearing trying to get it 
in.
 
thoughts?

RE: [Chevelle-list] Auto to Manual Tranny

[Ron Sparks]

www.keislerauto.com can set you up with 
the conversion and tranny. 
 
Converting over to a manual is really not that had. Did it on a '69 
Pontiac and my '66. The '69 was a straight bolt on, the '66 required some slight 
welding (though I probably could had drilled and tapped the frame for the 
bracket that was welded).


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WALTER F MC 
CULLOCHSent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:50 AMTo: 
Chevelle-listSubject: [Chevelle-list] Auto to Manual 
Tranny

Hi all.
New to the list.
My son has a 70 Chevelle and we want to convert it from a TH350 to a good 5 
or 6 speed manual with overdrive so we can go to some decent gears like 373's in 
the rear.  Any suggestions.  Are their any kits out there available 
that include all the parts like bellhousing, pedals, clutch, pressure plate, 
trans, etc.
Also, I was thinking a hydraulic clutch might be kinda slick to install as 
we could use a nice strong pressure plate without bending clutch linkage or 
requiring a linebacker's left leg to engage the clutch.  Is there anything 
available out there.
Thanks.
Mac

RE: [Chevelle-list] 454 carbs

[Ron Sparks]

I had a few problems with the 750 Demon at the top end, but have since
switched to an 850 with little problems. The bigger opportunity might be in
fuel delivery to the carb. Are the pump and lines getting enough fuel to the
engine?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Lumpp
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:06 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 454 carbs

Hi Fred,

You might check out Quick Fuel Technology.  I tried the Demon route with my
engine and wasn't happy with it either.  I ended up a QFT Q Series 850 vac
sec.  So far it seems to work great and I'm in the process of fine tuning
it.

http://www.quickfueltechnology.com/


Herb Lumpp
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Dowaliby
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:34 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] 454 carbs


Hi Folks,

I am once again in need of your expertise and advice, this time re:
carburetor selection and tuning. My car is a '68 Chevelle based 32 Ford
street rod, 454/th400 with 3:08 rear. I estimate it weighs about 2800 lbs.

Pertinent  engine vitals: flat top pistons, Edelbrock Performer RPM heads,
air gap intake, Comp Cams CB 280H-10 cam. The stall converter is 2200.

I am currently using a new out of the box Holley 750 dbl pumper carb. I have
tried a Speed Demon 750 vacum secondary. Both have resulted in lackluster
performance. There is no bog, they just don't have any punch. My comparison
is the carb I was using (never should have sold it!), an older  Holley 750
dbl pumper. That thing used to run like a beast! I replaced it with the
Demon because it just looked grungy, I got sucked into how pretty the demons
looked,  and I wanted to  "clean up" the engine. I then replaced the Demon
with  the Holley thinking I should have stuck with mechanical secondaries
like worked well before.
This resulted in the same lackluster performance. I made the mistake of
breaking the rule "If it ain't broke don't fix it!".

I am at a point where I just don't know what to do. Is a 750 big enough for
this engine? Should I start playing with the main jets? I don't know what's
in there now, but I recall the old one had #72/#70 for primary/secondary.

I don't have any experience with carb innards. Should I look for a
trustworthy carb expert/shop?

Thanks for your help,

Fred Dowaliby

RE: [Chevelle-list] Survey on Wheels

[Ron Sparks]

On my '66 I have Nitto NT555 P275/40ZR17 out back. My wheels 
are 17" Budnik Fontanas 17x9.5 
(5.5” BS). I think they look really nice without any rub at all. I probably 
could had gone a little larger - I've seen post on www.pro-touring.com with guys running 
285s - 305s.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt 
WettigSent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 5:52 PMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Survey on 
Wheels

Hey guys,
   I have a 70 SS I am 
putting together. I want to run the widest tires on the back I possibley can 
without making the car look silly. I am curious as to what size tires, wheels 
and backspacing everyone is running.
 
 
Thanks Matt

RE: [Chevelle-list] Where will it end??

[Ron Sparks]

He's something to ponder:

While restoring a "true" SS with repoduction parts imported from Asia (or
some other country), is is still an all original car? That goes for adding
headers and an intake. See it all the time on Ebay.I mean we're trying to
pass it off as something it really isn't since it is not an all original
car. 

Just poking a little fun..

Ron

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Krister Meister
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:46 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Cc: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Where will it end??





I am 40, own a numbers '66 SS and wanted the real thing.  Personally there's
satisfaction knowing it's real, it has survived, it's not a copy, agree that
clones are a dime a dozen and satisfaction comes by being able to tell
someone it's real and not a "look alike".  I also agree with "it's your car,
money, time etc. do what ever you want" philosophy.  However, clones being
misrepresented are the real issue and it goes along with the fake document's
etc that are produced.  If its a clone, show it and sell it as a clone.  It
absolutely gets me when is see out right misrepresentation.

A true US built SS is in the VIN from '64 - '68 and yes there are measures
even here to make sure things have not been tampered with on any year.
After '68 the SS was on option and can only be proven with an original build
sheet, original invoice or protector plate (exception in '72 the VIN had
engine size and 454 was available only on for an SS).  Adding all the SS
options to a regular Malibu doesn't make it an SS - basic question comes
down to "what was it when it left the factory - not what it looks like
today.  Lets enjoy our cars and keep the hobby honest.



Just checking out eBay for stuff I need for my 69  and ran across someone
selling build sheets! It is not bad enogh that everyone  and their brother
is building clones, but this should be against the law. They  will even
''age'' it for you.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=455364623
9&category=10076


 I am curious, how many of you would consider  building a clone and what is
your age? I ask age because it seems like younger  guys who build clones see
nothing wrong with it. Personally I think it takes  away from original cars,
I mean you go to a show to see rare stuff and it takes  the fun out of it. I
would much rather look at a dozen Malibus and one SS  versus a dozen fakes.
I would bet there are more ''SS'' cars on the  road now then there ever were
built originally!!

 Sorry to vent, but I had to get this out of  my system.

RE: [Chevelle-list] Where will it end??

[Ron Sparks]

I'm in the camp that if you want to do ANYTIHNG with your car, it's your 
business. This is the way I look at it:
 
1) It's my car
2) It's my money
3) It's my time
 
Those that have a 
greater then thee attitude about original cars, all I can say is they 
get the money for them when they sell, and there is a big difference. 
So what's the diff? Just relax...
 
Now, trying to pass 
it off with a bogus build sheet is crap, if not out right fraud. 

 
Oh, and my car? The 
guy that sold it to me claimed it to be an SS, but it had no documentation 
and a Washington state vin on the door jam. Is it an SS? I doubt it, and I never 
refer to it as such. To be honest all I was looking for was a clean, 
straight car and I liked the way it looks with the SS trim 
(especially the hood). I don't know if I would had gone to the trouble to add 
it all if it was not already there. Oh and I'd didn't offer or pay SS money 
for it either.
 
Besides Baer brakes, 
a Tremec 5 speed and a 454 wasn't on the option list in '66 :-)  I 
know what I want my '66 to be. Not a clone, certainly not "original" in the 
sense that the diehards think of, but original as in one of a 
kind, built from what my vision thinks it 
should be.
 
Might come a day 
when we wished we'd see more Chevelles on the road, regardless of what's been 
done to them. Enjoy the rides, guys - that's all what it's really all 
about...
 
Long Live 
Chevelles!
 
Ron
 
p.s. I'm 41 if it 
matters (which I don't think it really does)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RJ 
WinklerSent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:43 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: 
[Chevelle-list] Where will it end??


I just see it as the 
“SS” cars had a lot of the better equipment.  I bought a Malibu because I don’t 
have the money to purchase some rusted out real ss for double what I got mine 
for.  I’m completing a frame off restoration for the car and it will be a 
SS when I’m done.  Just to save myself incase I do have to sell it some day 
a clone brings in more money than most malibus so id rather put my money where it has 
a chance.  If someone trys to pull there car off as a real ss and it’s a 
clone that’s dumb, but you have to be dumber not to be able to spot it. 
 THeres nothing wrong with people building these cars how they choose. 
 Id rather seen 20 clones then 1 rusted out Chevelle getting crushed at 
some junkyard.  Im 17.
 
-RJ
 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Dave 
StudlySent: Wednesday, June 
08, 2005 12:15 AMTo: 
'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Where will it 
end??
 
This is why I think 
guys, especially ones newer to classic cars, are silly for trying to buy 
original numbers matching cars.  What exactly are you paying for when it 
can be duplicated and faked and be indistinguishable from a ‘real’ SS?  
What defines a ‘real’ SS anyway?  One that has all the correct SS options, 
or only one that left the factory that way? 
 
What makes a ’70 
SS454, all original, worth so much more than a ’70 Malibu with a 
454/TH400/12-bolt posi ?  If you’re buying and selling these cars to make 
money, I have no pity for them getting taken on cloned SS.  

 
With that said, when I 
finally re-do the body and paintwork on my ’70 Malibu, I’ll probably add SS 
stripes, Cowl hood, the rear bumper insert and paint my grill black with the 
stainless trim, although I probably will keep my idiot-light dash.  With my 
EFI small block and Hotchkis suspension, no one will mistake it for a ‘real’ SS, 
but it’ll run circles around any ‘real’ SS.  I’ll build my car the way I 
choose, much like Clint said.  I’m 32. 
 
-Dave
 
 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Gene's General 
Restoration PartsSent: 
Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:20 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Where will it 
end??
 

Just checking out eBay for stuff I 
need for my 69 and ran across someone selling build sheets! It is not bad enogh 
that everyone and their brother is building clones, but this should be against 
the law. They will even ''age'' it for you. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4553646239&category=10076 


 

 I am curious, how many of you 
would consider building a clone and what is your age? I ask age because it seems 
like younger guys who build clones see nothing wrong with it. Personally I think 
it takes away from original cars, I mean you go to a show to see rare stuff and 
it takes the fun out of it. I would much rather look at a dozen Malibus and one SS 
versus a dozen fakes. I would bet there are more ''SS'' cars on the 
road now then there ever were built 
originally!!

 

 Sorry to vent, but I had to 
get this out of my system. 

RE: [Chevelle-list] Hotchkis springs

[Ron Sparks]

Will my Baer Track setup bolt to the Fat Man spindles? I was looking in 
the Baer catalog and it appears they sell a Baer modified Superior 2" drop 
spindle for my setup.
 
I 
think you're right on the sagging. With one side done, you can push down on the 
upgraded side and feel how much stiffer the springs are as opposed to the other 
side.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
HooperSent: Monday, May 30, 2005 11:15 AMTo: The Chevelle 
Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Hotchkis 
springs

All else being equal,the Hotchkis springs would 
lower the car. But,your original springs have sagged some which cancelled out 
the drop.
You have a couple ways to go here to 
lower that 66. Either install the Fat Man tall spindles which will lower the car 
around 1 7/8" or have Coil Spring Specialties build you a pair of 2" lowering 
springs.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ron 
  Sparks 
  
  yeah I new that the brakes won't effect hight - and 
  I was afraid that they wouldn't fit B-Body spindles..
   
  The springs are Hotchkis #1916F
   
  "Lower your GM A-Body 1" Below 
  stock ride height to give it the right look, with an aggressive stance and a 
  lower center of gravity. Our springs provide a firm, but not harsh ride. Each 
  gray powder coated spring is precision wound using the highest quality steel. 
  Specs: 1" Lowered Front 500 lb/in, Motor: Big Block Applications: GM 
  A-Body"
  I'll check out the Fat Man spindles.
   
  thanks!
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
  HooperSent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:26 PMTo: The 
  Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Hotchkis 
  springs
  
  It should go without saying but the Baer brake 
  kit has nothing to do with the ride height. Who made those front springs? 
  Stock height or lowered? You need to install both sides and drive the car some 
  to let it settle a little bit. Remember that your old springs have most likely 
  sagged and if you installed stock height new springs,the car will probably sit 
  higher than with the old units.
  If it were my car,I would pass on the B-body 
  spindle change. Order some Fat Man Fab taller A-body 
  spindles,instead.
  No,the Baer brake kit you have will not fit 
  B-body spindles.
  Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
  H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
  
    - Original Message - 
From: 
Ron 
Sparks 


Just looking fr 
some insights...
 
I just installed 
new a new spring and Baer disc on one side (driver) of my '66, but I'm not 
getting the drop I was expecting. I've got a big block (iron 
heads)  so I ordered the big block springs. The Baer kit was a 
bolt on to the factory drum spindals. It measures 15 1/2 inches from the 
floor to the bottom of the front bumper (the hood is off, but it shouldn't 
matter that much). Maybe it will drop a bit more once I get the other side done, but I 
doubt it.
 
Should/can I 
swap to B body (or aftermarket) spindals? Does anyone know if my 
baers will bolt on ok? Or should I cut the springs or order the ones for the 
bb with aluminum heads (though long term I plan on getting a set of new 
heads)?
 
 
Other news- my 
tremec 5 speed is in route! Can't wait to get my hands on that thing. Herb, 
thanks for the play-by-play on your web site. It's given me a good idea of 
what I'm getting into.
 
Ron

RE: [Chevelle-list] Hotchkis springs

[Ron Sparks]

yeah I new that the brakes won't effect hight - and I 
was afraid that they wouldn't fit B-Body spindles..
 
The springs are Hotchkis #1916F
 
"Lower your GM A-Body 1" Below stock 
ride height to give it the right look, with an aggressive stance and a lower 
center of gravity. Our springs provide a firm, but not harsh ride. Each gray 
powder coated spring is precision wound using the highest quality steel. Specs: 
1" Lowered Front 500 lb/in, Motor: Big Block Applications: GM 
A-Body"
I'll check out the Fat Man spindles.
 
thanks!


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
HooperSent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:26 PMTo: The Chevelle 
Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Hotchkis 
springs

It should go without saying but the Baer brake kit 
has nothing to do with the ride height. Who made those front springs? Stock 
height or lowered? You need to install both sides and drive the car some to let 
it settle a little bit. Remember that your old springs have most likely sagged 
and if you installed stock height new springs,the car will probably sit higher 
than with the old units.
If it were my car,I would pass on the B-body 
spindle change. Order some Fat Man Fab taller A-body 
spindles,instead.
No,the Baer brake kit you have will not fit B-body 
spindles.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  ----- Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ron 
  Sparks 
  
  
  Just looking fr 
  some insights...
   
  I just installed 
  new a new spring and Baer disc on one side (driver) of my '66, but I'm not 
  getting the drop I was expecting. I've got a big block (iron 
  heads)  so I ordered the big block springs. The Baer kit was a bolt 
  on to the factory drum spindals. It measures 15 1/2 inches from the floor to 
  the bottom of the front bumper (the hood is off, but it shouldn't matter that 
  much). Maybe it will 
  drop a bit more once I get the other side done, but I doubt 
  it.
   
  Should/can I swap 
  to B body (or aftermarket) spindals? Does anyone know if my baers 
  will bolt on ok? Or should I cut the springs or order the ones for the bb with 
  aluminum heads (though long term I plan on getting a set of new 
  heads)?
   
   
  Other news- my 
  tremec 5 speed is in route! Can't wait to get my hands on that thing. Herb, 
  thanks for the play-by-play on your web site. It's given me a good idea of 
  what I'm getting into.
   
  Ron

[Chevelle-list] Hotchkis springs

[Ron Sparks]

Just looking fr some 
insights...
 
I just installed new 
a new spring and Baer disc on one side (driver) of my '66, but I'm not getting 
the drop I was expecting. I've got a big block (iron heads)  so I 
ordered the big block springs. The Baer kit was a bolt on to the factory drum 
spindals. It measures 15 1/2 inches from the floor to the bottom of the front 
bumper (the hood is off, but it shouldn't matter that much). Maybe it will drop a bit more 
once I get the other side done, but I doubt 
it.
 
Should/can I swap to 
B body (or aftermarket) spindals? Does anyone know if my baers will 
bolt on ok? Or should I cut the springs or order the ones for the bb with 
aluminum heads (though long term I plan on getting a set of new 
heads)?
 
 
Other news- my 
tremec 5 speed is in route! Can't wait to get my hands on that thing. Herb, 
thanks for the play-by-play on your web site. It's given me a good idea of what 
I'm getting into.
 
Ron

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

[Ron Sparks]

It rubbed the steering on  my '66. Not what I wanted to do, especially after
all the cost and then efforts to get them in without scratching anything.

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What year are you running your dimpled headers on? I have coated Hookers on
my '69 396 with no dimples. The driver's side was  no box of chocolates to
install, I can tell you that. The only clearance issue I had was that the
brake lines needed to be moved a 1/4" or so on the drivers side.

Rich
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> About two years, so that probably not long enough to tell anytihng (not 
> like
> I run around in a weather much with it).. But I bought them from a guy 
> that
> dig the ceramic coating, so Hooker did not coat them. They look like they
> will hold up fine, but time will tell.
>
> Oh, one thing on fit for my car - I also had to dimple one tube for 
> steering
> clearance.
>
>
> Ron
>
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> Ron,
>
> How long have you had the ceramic Hookers? Any rust yet?? It surprised me
> when the Hooker Rep told they would rust! I'm sure under very adverse
> conditions...but he told me up front!!
>
>   Dan
>
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> I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with 
> them.
> I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
> probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
> take some careful measurements
>
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> I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
> 454 with 8-71 blower. What do you 
> recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
> I will get ceramic coated.
>
>Dan
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RE: [Chevelle-list] Age of the Chevelle owners

[Ron Sparks]

41 and am on my second '66 that I bought about 4 years ago. First one I 
bought and towed home when I was 19. Dropped in a way over kill 327 and a 4 
speed and had a ton of fun in it.


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Chevelle owners


  
  

  Just sitting here thinking about the average age of the 
  Chevelle  guy or gal>
  Last week everyone wondered what everyone did for a living, I just 
  wondered what the ages are,and when they got their fist Chevelle.
  My first Chevell was in Dec 2004 ,a 64 SS Chevelle 327 with 300 
  horse.Always wanted one and now i can have it.
  Im 54 years old,second childhood!!!
  Bob
  

  


  
  
  
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RE: [Chevelle-list] Sold the 68 now back in the market

[Ron Sparks]

Good luck finding a new one Bob! 

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Just went out this morning for gas and some guy follows me all the way into
my driveway...

He liked the car  so much he offered me a deal I just could not refuse... 
especially as I just yesterday wrote the check out for the Insurance...(did
not mail it yet howeverlol) ..
Maybe he was into or sold drugs because he came back within an hourtest
drove the car..with me in the passengers seat.and gave me good old hard
cash.no checks just plain old cash...

An hour after he left I walked into the garage...No 68... WTF... discovered
I already miss the car. (shades of guilt ..I guess)... But then again I
can now begin a search for a replacement... which is kind of fun ..  I HOPE

Bob Griffiths
Chevelle-Less for the first time in 20 years ...

RE: [Chevelle-list] 1970 CHEVELLE

[Ron Sparks]

do you have a sister? 
:-)
 


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CHEVELLE

Well here goes because of this chat room i have almost completed a 1966 
chevell groung up thank u all not bad for a girl huh..
but i went to a show today and decided to suprise  my hubby with a 
1970 ss 396 it does not have the original eng and trans but they do have the 
protecto plate can i tell from that if it a real ss it has dual fuel lines also 
a box lower control arms help i don't want to look bad 
hel
candy

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

[Ron Sparks]

About two years, so that probably not long enough to tell anytihng (not like
I run around in a weather much with it).. But I bought them from a guy that
dig the ceramic coating, so Hooker did not coat them. They look like they
will hold up fine, but time will tell.

Oh, one thing on fit for my car - I also had to dimple one tube for steering
clearance.


Ron 

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Ron,

How long have you had the ceramic Hookers? Any rust yet?? It surprised me
when the Hooker Rep told they would rust! I'm sure under very adverse
conditions...but he told me up front!!

   Dan

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I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with them.
I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
take some careful measurements

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I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
I will get ceramic coated.

Dan

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RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

[Ron Sparks]

I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with them.
I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
take some careful measurements

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I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
I will get ceramic coated.

Dan

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RE: [Chevelle-list] STEERING WHEEL

[Ron Sparks]

you can paint a wheel 
pretty much the way you paint anything else. I messed around and restored a 
couple wheels (a kit I got from Eastwood). The big deal is getting all the prep 
work done right and a good etching primer.


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can some one tell me how and what do u paint the steering 
with

RE: [Chevelle-list] Rear Suspension

[Ron Sparks]

I'd aways heard wagon springs would make them sit up also, but I've never 
done it.


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Suspension

I put 1976 monte carlo spring on the back of my 71 
and it raised it about 2in's over stock
 
    
Randy 71 malibu

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  Winkler 
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  Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:41 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Rear 
  Suspension
  
  
  Hey 
  guys,
      
  I’m getting around to finishing up my chassis on my 69 and starting in on the 
  body.  I want the back to sit up higher than stock and was wondering if 
  anybody has done this and what setup they went with spring and shock wise? 
   I have a set of pretty big tires, they rub on any bump in the road, and 
  I’m going to have to go smaller so I don’t damage the quarters but I don’t 
  want to loose the height in the back.  Any advice would be great 
  thanks
   
  ps im also looking for a 396 4 
  bolt main and rear disk brakes if anybody is selling or knows where I can go 
  thanks again

RE: [Chevelle-list] Tires

[Ron Sparks]

I have Nittos on mine. Not enough miles on them to give a good idea on how
they preform, but they look cool :-) 

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I'm running wide 15" tires on the rear and smaller 15" on front. I can't
give you exact information until tomorrow! I've been looking at Nitto and
Falken tires, and like what I see. Does anyone have an opinion on either
tire..or do you prefer something else! I like the straight groove
pattern to allow water to disperse!

  Dan Mascheck

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[Chevelle-list] Back on the list

[Ron Sparks]

Been a long time 
since I last posted on the list (maybe last September?). Picked up the family 
and moved from Denver to Boise. Anyways the bug is back and it's time to start 
wrenching on the '66 again. Plus the new house has a FOUR car garage 
:-)
 
My big purchase last 
year was a set of 17" Budnik Fontanas (17x8 (4.5” BS) front and 17x9.5 (5.5” BS) back. Tires are Nitto 
NT555 – P245/45ZR17 front and P275/40ZR17 back) and a Baer 
disk setup for the front (got the brakes from Clint here on the list - 
still have yet to install)...well this year the big one is going to be a Tremec 
5 speed from Keisler. I broke the Muncie at the end of last summer. I ordered it 
from Keisler about a week ago - bad thing is they told me it would be about 6-8 
weeks, then another week for the drive shaft once I send them back the 
measurements. 
 
I'm starting to feel 
like the car is coming to a crossroad. I know pretty much how I want it to be 
when its' done, but the money! Since I put the Budniks on, the front end really 
sits up. It always sat up some, but now it REALLY does, and it's a big 
block car! So I figure I've got the next month or so to mess with it, maybe it's 
time to work on the front end, put some new springs, shocks and the Baers 
on. I also 
want to replace the rear, add Baers back there and work do the suspension work 
back there also. Money, money, money!
 
It's pretty much to 
the point where pretty much everything I need (want) is big bucks and only can 
be found new. I hardly see anything at swap meets any more that I have any 
interest in. Chevelle parts of any year were pretty sparse at the last meet I 
went to last weekend at Firebird Raceway here in Boise.
 
ok enough of my 
ramblings...good to be back!
 
 
Ron
1966 
Chevelle

RE: [Chevelle-list] 1966 CHEVELLE

[Ron Sparks]

I will also vouch for a flowmaster kit. It was an easy install on my '66. 

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I can vouch for the Flowmaster 11720 system being easy to install and I am
happy with the sound of the 50s that it comes with.

John Nasta


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> what type of mufflers would u suggest i do have a 4 barrel 600 
> edelbrock
and
> do any one have any good mufflers for sale

Dynomax Super Turbos are a good choice...is the rest of your exhaust system
already in place or are you building it from scratch?  Dual 2-1/4" pipes
with an H or X-pipe crossover would be plenty for a 283.

Brad O.