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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List The company that does the engines for Advance is a pretty good source, a guy that I know got an engine from them a few years back, it was just a six banger 3.1 for his Calvalier, he put it in and broke it in properly and one day it spun a bearing. He went back told them the problem, he pulled the motor and sent it back. Sure he was mad that he had to reinstall the engine (front wheel drive AHHH!) but within 2 days they gave him a new motor. He still runs it now, no problems coughs or anything, and it currently has about 150,000 miles on it (he drives alot for his job, the old motor had 350,000 on it when he blowed it at 70 mph on a freeway in Ohio). He says that if the body of the car is still in good shape after this one lets go he'll do it again, he is a satisfied customer. My buddy with the 66 Impala, his 350 is from Advance, I know this particular engine very well and after 22,000 miles so far (this boat gets driven everywhere), all that has been done are a few carb adjustments and replaced a leaky head gasket (that was Adams fault!!! He put the heads on not me so I don't want to hear it). This particular bit has sold me on wanting to go the box route. I thought you guys liked crate motors though so whats with all the fuss? I feel that it is better than some moron around here rebuilding my engine and I have a total engine failure in the next 15 miles, then the guy would say I was running it too hard and to his "inspection" he would find something that looks like it was run hard during break in (I trust nobody around here, I prefer to go with a reputable company than the morons I deal with on a daily bases) On further thought though, yes, they could possibly stick me with a p.o.s. engine and void my warranty, but I would take the same chances spending $2,000 for a local builder to build the motor and it turn loose on me way before its time and he not give me any sort of garantee that it will work. All he is there for is to slap the thing togather and maybe it will work, at least with the company I have a chance at least if it don't work I can take it back. There are reputable builders around here, but they like to take thier sweet time getting around to doing something, not to mention they won't turn a wrench for less than $1,500. The next engine in my car will not be a 350 as I have seen many done, it will be a big block and I prefer to keep it the way it came from the factory, I like my baby big block. Then on another thought, I may already have my other 396 built by the time the current one lets go, but I won't have a snowballs chance in Hell of getting any of my money back if something goes wrong with the home built engine, but then again it might just be the best motor in the world but I have no luck. Josh >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems >Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:29:31 EDT > >Josh: >warranties are only as good as the people who sell them. Read the small >print. Murphy's law says if they can find a way to get out of paying for it >they will. hell i can give you a warranty on anything you want. want it in >writing? ok, now what was the problem? oh yea just send the product out >here >to Larry and I'll check it out. hey josh? hate to tell you this but that >motor you sent back to me here in Oregon? well we can't find anything wrong >with it. how do you want to pay to get your motor back? oh you don't think >you should have to pay? well when you want your motor back send us the >money. >as i was saying warranties are only as good as the people who sell them :). >larry _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List as i was saying warranties are only as good as the people who sell them :). larry Kinda like in the movie Tommy Boy. "Then why do they put the guaruntee on the box? Because they know they are selling you a guarunteed piece shit. If you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guarantedd I will, I got spare time. But for your sake, for your daughters sake you might want to think about buying a quality product from me." I also agree with this from experience. We used to outsource some of our toner cartridge business to a comapny in Illinois. Everytime I sent back defectives, I included print sample and an explanation of the defect along with the weights of each cartridge to show how much was used, if any at all. They always found some bonehead excuse to not credit us back for their poor quality. Needless to say they we are not doing business with them anymore. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Josh: warranties are only as good as the people who sell them. Read the small print. Murphy's law says if they can find a way to get out of paying for it they will. hell i can give you a warranty on anything you want. want it in writing? ok, now what was the problem? oh yea just send the product out here to Larry and I'll check it out. hey josh? hate to tell you this but that motor you sent back to me here in Oregon? well we can't find anything wrong with it. how do you want to pay to get your motor back? oh you don't think you should have to pay? well when you want your motor back send us the money. as i was saying warranties are only as good as the people who sell them :). larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List It is a rebuild. I just call it a crate motor, sorry if I caused confusion if you thought that they were turning out brand new engines. But basically it is, everything from the crank up is brand new, and if it screws up within the warranty then you don't have to worry (I know my dumb luck it would die the day after the warranty expired) the only thing you have to do is put the replacement in, and whats that a days figiting? Anyhoo sorry about the confusion. Josh >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems >Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:43:45 EDT > >Josh: >are you sure its a "crate motor " and not a rebuild? >Larry _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Josh: are you sure its a "crate motor " and not a rebuild? Larry
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I'll call them today and see who it is and where they are from, I'm still sold on the crate deal though less headaches. Josh >From: rocky hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:21:16 -0700 (PDT) > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Still would like to know who makes the 396 (crate) >engine that you say is available from Advance!! > >Rocky Hill > > > > >--- Josh Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > > Mailing List > > > > > > > Don't really know where they come from, everybody is > > saying Mexico, all I > > know is I am sold on crate engines; 1 year warranty > > no questions asked, put > > on your manifold (sometimes heads) starter, > > distributer, and alternator and > > you're done, reliable, no screaming at you machinist > > for his 'rebuilt' motor > > blowing on the initial start up. I just like to try > > to keep things as > > simple as possible, I'm still going to try to build > > that 396 that I got > > given to me (OK so I worked for it) but I like crate > > engines for thier > > warranty and such so if it screws up, they will > > replace it (no racing I > > know, I don't do that anymore anyhow). I have > > thought maybe going > > Pro-Touring with my Chevelle, well not exactly cuz > > that would interupt my > > "look" but more or less just make it to where I can > > drive it affordably > > anywhere I want (change out those 3.90s maybe get a > > whole new rear with a > > peg leg with high gears, so when I go somewhere I > > change out the rear and > > forget about it) But I'll shut up, got off my > > original response, so to > > conclude I have no idea where they come from. > > Josh > > 66SS396 > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install > > problems > > >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:36:48 EDT > > > > > >Josh: > > >who is making these "crate motors"? > > >Larry > > > > >_ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > >- > > To Unsubscribe please visit > > www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List thank you Josh !!! I'm in for a ranking of suppliers and customer service. If you call year-one, do whatever you want as long as you dont talk to donald (duck). (my opinion) --- Josh Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > List > > > I almost bought one of those 6 speed powerglides, oh yeah > I wanted a > manual :)~~ By the way I fogot to say welcome back > to the list. > Josh > > > >From: Tigergutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems > >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:21:13 +0200 (CEST) > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > List > > > > > >Josh, you were looking for an automatic, right ??? > >Laughing (a lot) > >yuo make the smile come back on my face, it has been a > bad > >day in the office. > > > >--- Josh Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > Mailing > > > List > > > > > > > > > > > Hee hee. I've got a better story than that.. This > > > happened at the Advance > > > Auto Parts here before they got new managment and got > guy > > > in there that knew > > > what they were talking about. I blowed the tailshaft > on > > > my transmission and > > > I was going to see if I couldn't buy a new tranny and > > > forget about it, I was > > > willing to go with a Borg Warner, as long as it would > > > fit, so here is my > > > story. I had my friends along with me this day, they > had > > > to give me a lift > > > anyway :) > > > > > > Me: I need a Muncie 4 speed or a Borg Warner for a 66 > > > Chevelle; just about > > > any GM 4 speed will work, as long as it is for a 69 > > > block. > > > > > > Dork (asst. manager at that looked like a rat): Ok > lets > > > see > > > here.. I don't see it on the computer let > me > > > check the book. Is > > > it a Turbo 350? > > > > > > Me: No, I have a Muncie M22 4 speed, thats an > automatic. > > > > > > Dork: Ok how about a TH 350? > > > > > > Me: No, thats also an automatic, I have a Muncie. > > > > > > Dork: A Turbo 400? > > > > > > Me (patiently, but beginning to loose my cool): No, > > > another automatic, I > > > need a 4 speed. > > > > > > Dork: A TH400? > > > > > > Me: No, automatic. > > > > > > Dork: AHA! A Powerglide, thats it isn't it? > > > > > > Me (thats it, this moron messed with the wrong guy on > the > > > wrong day): NO, > > > NO, NO, I want a 4 speed.. You know a stick, a > manual, a > > > gear grinder > > > whatever the Hell you call it you Jackass! In a > Manual (I > > > stressed manual) > > > car you have instead of 2 pedels you have three, and > its > > > not an emergency > > > brake!!! When you have one of these you have to push > in > > > the far left big > > > pedel to cahnge your gears, in my case I go 1,2,3,4 > to go > > > forward and all > > > the way over to the left and up to get to reverse!! I > DO > > > NOT HAVE A GD > > > AUTOMATIC!! All the transmissions you have just > named > > > are AUTOMATICS, > > > prabably like whatever POS you drive, do you now > > > understand what I am > > > talking about? > > > > > > Moron: Oh, we don't carry those, we can get one for a > > > Mustang though. > > > > > > Me: FU (then I stormed out with my giggling best > > > buds right behind) > > > > > > That right there made me not step a foot back in the > > > place until one of my > > > friends got a job there and I knew he knew what he > was > > > talking about, not to > > > mention he would give me his employee discount on the > > > more expensive stuff. > > > Josh > > > 66SS396 > > > > > > > > > >From:
Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Still would like to know who makes the 396 (crate) engine that you say is available from Advance!! Rocky Hill --- Josh Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > Mailing List > > > Don't really know where they come from, everybody is > saying Mexico, all I > know is I am sold on crate engines; 1 year warranty > no questions asked, put > on your manifold (sometimes heads) starter, > distributer, and alternator and > you're done, reliable, no screaming at you machinist > for his 'rebuilt' motor > blowing on the initial start up. I just like to try > to keep things as > simple as possible, I'm still going to try to build > that 396 that I got > given to me (OK so I worked for it) but I like crate > engines for thier > warranty and such so if it screws up, they will > replace it (no racing I > know, I don't do that anymore anyhow). I have > thought maybe going > Pro-Touring with my Chevelle, well not exactly cuz > that would interupt my > "look" but more or less just make it to where I can > drive it affordably > anywhere I want (change out those 3.90s maybe get a > whole new rear with a > peg leg with high gears, so when I go somewhere I > change out the rear and > forget about it) But I'll shut up, got off my > original response, so to > conclude I have no idea where they come from. > Josh > 66SS396 > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install > problems > >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:36:48 EDT > > > >Josh: > >who is making these "crate motors"? > >Larry > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit > www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Don't really know where they come from, everybody is saying Mexico, all I know is I am sold on crate engines; 1 year warranty no questions asked, put on your manifold (sometimes heads) starter, distributer, and alternator and you're done, reliable, no screaming at you machinist for his 'rebuilt' motor blowing on the initial start up. I just like to try to keep things as simple as possible, I'm still going to try to build that 396 that I got given to me (OK so I worked for it) but I like crate engines for thier warranty and such so if it screws up, they will replace it (no racing I know, I don't do that anymore anyhow). I have thought maybe going Pro-Touring with my Chevelle, well not exactly cuz that would interupt my "look" but more or less just make it to where I can drive it affordably anywhere I want (change out those 3.90s maybe get a whole new rear with a peg leg with high gears, so when I go somewhere I change out the rear and forget about it) But I'll shut up, got off my original response, so to conclude I have no idea where they come from. Josh 66SS396 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:36:48 EDT > >Josh: >who is making these "crate motors"? >Larry _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yep the good old spell check came in and corrected my grammar :) Larry
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oh no damn spell check did it again. i better start proof reading my email before i send it 2-502's not 2,502 502s Larry
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List At 01:49 PM 07/15/2001 -0400, you wrote: >this is why i didn't do the crate 502. my engine builder warned me that they >had problems (of course he wanted to build me an engine too) with oil >consumption and poor machine work. >he told me if i bought one to bring it in and for about $1800.00 he would fix >everything. >since we have started (Oct) on my motor (458) 2,502 crates have been >brought into his shop both with excessive oil usage Ha-Ha, at first look that looks like 2,502 502 crate motors, he must be very busy >but I have also seen several that run great with no problems. The GM target >motors have been put together for years in Mexico. I wonder where the cranks >were built that tom mentioned? Even 17 yrs ago they were built there. [EMAIL PROTECTED] & The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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this is why i didn't do the crate 502. my engine builder warned me that they had problems (of course he wanted to build me an engine too) with oil consumption and poor machine work. he told me if i bought one to bring it in and for about $1800.00 he would fix everything. since we have started (Oct) on my motor (458) 2,502 crates have been brought into his shop both with excessive oil usage but I have also seen several that run great with no problems. The GM target motors have been put together for years in Mexico. I wonder where the cranks were built that tom mentioned? Larry
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List At 12:41 AM 07/15/2001, you wrote: >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > in Mexico. i know a guy who went trhough 5 502 crate motors before finding >one without a bent crankshaft. I had good luck with my crate motor for the Monte, but when I found out they were made in Mexico, I decided that the next one could be built here for about the same or less and still have the same performance. Bear in mind, I only put 50 miles on it...I haven't heard from the buyer since he got it...hmmm... Kelly & Jana Hanna Red Rocks (Rust list) Two SS (Elky, Malibu & Chevelle lists) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List in Mexico. i know a guy who went trhough 5 502 crate motors before finding one without a bent crankshaft. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Josh: who is making these "crate motors"? Larry
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List It was worth a shot.. they can actually get a 396 crate motor, so why not a Muncie? >From: rocky hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:32:25 -0700 (PDT) > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Thats what you get for trying to buy a Muncie from >Advance!! > >Rocky Hill >M66SS http://www.geocities.com/rocks66ss > > > >--- Josh Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > > Mailing List > > > > > > > Hee hee. I've got a better story than that.. This > > happened at the Advance > > Auto Parts here before they got new managment and > > got guy in there that knew > > what they were talking about. I blowed the > > tailshaft on my transmission and > > I was going to see if I couldn't buy a new tranny > > and forget about it, I was > > willing to go with a Borg Warner, as long as it > > would fit, so here is my > > story. I had my friends along with me this day, > > they had to give me a lift > > anyway :) > > > > Me: I need a Muncie 4 speed or a Borg Warner for a > > 66 Chevelle; just about > > any GM 4 speed will work, as long as it is for a 69 > > block. > > > > Dork (asst. manager at that looked like a rat): Ok > > lets see > > here.. I don't see it on the computer > > let me check the book. Is > > it a Turbo 350? > > > > Me: No, I have a Muncie M22 4 speed, thats an > > automatic. > > > > Dork: Ok how about a TH 350? > > > > Me: No, thats also an automatic, I have a Muncie. > > > > Dork: A Turbo 400? > > > > Me (patiently, but beginning to loose my cool): No, > > another automatic, I > > need a 4 speed. > > > > Dork: A TH400? > > > > Me: No, automatic. > > > > Dork: AHA! A Powerglide, thats it isn't it? > > > > Me (thats it, this moron messed with the wrong guy > > on the wrong day): NO, > > NO, NO, I want a 4 speed.. You know a stick, a > > manual, a gear grinder > > whatever the Hell you call it you Jackass! In a > > Manual (I stressed manual) > > car you have instead of 2 pedels you have three, and > > its not an emergency > > brake!!! When you have one of these you have to > > push in the far left big > > pedel to cahnge your gears, in my case I go 1,2,3,4 > > to go forward and all > > the way over to the left and up to get to reverse!! > > I DO NOT HAVE A GD > > AUTOMATIC!! All the transmissions you have just > > named are AUTOMATICS, > > prabably like whatever POS you drive, do you now > > understand what I am > > talking about? > > > > Moron: Oh, we don't carry those, we can get one for > > a Mustang though. > > > > Me: FU (then I stormed out with my giggling > > best buds right behind) > > > > That right there made me not step a foot back in the > > place until one of my > > friends got a job there and I knew he knew what he > > was talking about, not to > > mention he would give me his employee discount on > > the more expensive stuff. > > Josh > > 66SS396 > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install > > problems > > >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:56:07 EDT > > > > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > > Mailing List > > > > > > > > > >i hope it wasn't pep boys. those people are about > > the dumbest around. at > > >the stores around here, they don't know how to look > > up something as simple > > >as > > >a fuel pump or a gasket. i went and asked for a > > big block oil pan gasket > > >and > > >the kid didn't know what a big block was. he > > thought it was a 305. i just > > >had to shake my head and said that isn't a big > > block is it. > > > > > >Tom > > >
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I almost bought one of those 6 speed powerglides, oh yeah I wanted a manual :)~~ By the way I fogot to say welcome back to the list. Josh >From: Tigergutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:21:13 +0200 (CEST) > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Josh, you were looking for an automatic, right ??? >Laughing (a lot) >yuo make the smile come back on my face, it has been a bad >day in the office. > >--- Josh Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > > List > > > > > > > Hee hee. I've got a better story than that.. This > > happened at the Advance > > Auto Parts here before they got new managment and got guy > > in there that knew > > what they were talking about. I blowed the tailshaft on > > my transmission and > > I was going to see if I couldn't buy a new tranny and > > forget about it, I was > > willing to go with a Borg Warner, as long as it would > > fit, so here is my > > story. I had my friends along with me this day, they had > > to give me a lift > > anyway :) > > > > Me: I need a Muncie 4 speed or a Borg Warner for a 66 > > Chevelle; just about > > any GM 4 speed will work, as long as it is for a 69 > > block. > > > > Dork (asst. manager at that looked like a rat): Ok lets > > see > > here.. I don't see it on the computer let me > > check the book. Is > > it a Turbo 350? > > > > Me: No, I have a Muncie M22 4 speed, thats an automatic. > > > > Dork: Ok how about a TH 350? > > > > Me: No, thats also an automatic, I have a Muncie. > > > > Dork: A Turbo 400? > > > > Me (patiently, but beginning to loose my cool): No, > > another automatic, I > > need a 4 speed. > > > > Dork: A TH400? > > > > Me: No, automatic. > > > > Dork: AHA! A Powerglide, thats it isn't it? > > > > Me (thats it, this moron messed with the wrong guy on the > > wrong day): NO, > > NO, NO, I want a 4 speed.. You know a stick, a manual, a > > gear grinder > > whatever the Hell you call it you Jackass! In a Manual (I > > stressed manual) > > car you have instead of 2 pedels you have three, and its > > not an emergency > > brake!!! When you have one of these you have to push in > > the far left big > > pedel to cahnge your gears, in my case I go 1,2,3,4 to go > > forward and all > > the way over to the left and up to get to reverse!! I DO > > NOT HAVE A GD > > AUTOMATIC!! All the transmissions you have just named > > are AUTOMATICS, > > prabably like whatever POS you drive, do you now > > understand what I am > > talking about? > > > > Moron: Oh, we don't carry those, we can get one for a > > Mustang though. > > > > Me: FU (then I stormed out with my giggling best > > buds right behind) > > > > That right there made me not step a foot back in the > > place until one of my > > friends got a job there and I knew he knew what he was > > talking about, not to > > mention he would give me his employee discount on the > > more expensive stuff. > > Josh > > 66SS396 > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems > > >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:56:07 EDT > > > > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > > List > > > > > > > > > >i hope it wasn't pep boys. those people are about the > > dumbest around. at > > >the stores around here, they don't know how to look up > > something as simple > > >as > > >a fuel pump or a gasket. i went and asked for a big > > block oil pan gasket > > >and > > >the kid didn't know what a big block was. he thought it > > was a 305. i just > > >had to shake my head and said that isn't a big block is > > it. > > > > > >Tom > > > >
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thats what you get for trying to buy a Muncie from Advance!! Rocky Hill M66SS http://www.geocities.com/rocks66ss --- Josh Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > Mailing List > > > Hee hee. I've got a better story than that.. This > happened at the Advance > Auto Parts here before they got new managment and > got guy in there that knew > what they were talking about. I blowed the > tailshaft on my transmission and > I was going to see if I couldn't buy a new tranny > and forget about it, I was > willing to go with a Borg Warner, as long as it > would fit, so here is my > story. I had my friends along with me this day, > they had to give me a lift > anyway :) > > Me: I need a Muncie 4 speed or a Borg Warner for a > 66 Chevelle; just about > any GM 4 speed will work, as long as it is for a 69 > block. > > Dork (asst. manager at that looked like a rat): Ok > lets see > here.. I don't see it on the computer > let me check the book. Is > it a Turbo 350? > > Me: No, I have a Muncie M22 4 speed, thats an > automatic. > > Dork: Ok how about a TH 350? > > Me: No, thats also an automatic, I have a Muncie. > > Dork: A Turbo 400? > > Me (patiently, but beginning to loose my cool): No, > another automatic, I > need a 4 speed. > > Dork: A TH400? > > Me: No, automatic. > > Dork: AHA! A Powerglide, thats it isn't it? > > Me (thats it, this moron messed with the wrong guy > on the wrong day): NO, > NO, NO, I want a 4 speed.. You know a stick, a > manual, a gear grinder > whatever the Hell you call it you Jackass! In a > Manual (I stressed manual) > car you have instead of 2 pedels you have three, and > its not an emergency > brake!!! When you have one of these you have to > push in the far left big > pedel to cahnge your gears, in my case I go 1,2,3,4 > to go forward and all > the way over to the left and up to get to reverse!! > I DO NOT HAVE A GD > AUTOMATIC!! All the transmissions you have just > named are AUTOMATICS, > prabably like whatever POS you drive, do you now > understand what I am > talking about? > > Moron: Oh, we don't carry those, we can get one for > a Mustang though. > > Me: FU (then I stormed out with my giggling > best buds right behind) > > That right there made me not step a foot back in the > place until one of my > friends got a job there and I knew he knew what he > was talking about, not to > mention he would give me his employee discount on > the more expensive stuff. > Josh > 66SS396 > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install > problems > >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:56:07 EDT > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > Mailing List > > > > > >i hope it wasn't pep boys. those people are about > the dumbest around. at > >the stores around here, they don't know how to look > up something as simple > >as > >a fuel pump or a gasket. i went and asked for a > big block oil pan gasket > >and > >the kid didn't know what a big block was. he > thought it was a 305. i just > >had to shake my head and said that isn't a big > block is it. > > > >Tom > > > >- > >To Unsubscribe please visit > www.chevelles.net/list.html > >To start a new topic, send mail to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit > www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Josh, you were looking for an automatic, right ??? Laughing (a lot) yuo make the smile come back on my face, it has been a bad day in the office. --- Josh Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > List > > > Hee hee. I've got a better story than that.. This > happened at the Advance > Auto Parts here before they got new managment and got guy > in there that knew > what they were talking about. I blowed the tailshaft on > my transmission and > I was going to see if I couldn't buy a new tranny and > forget about it, I was > willing to go with a Borg Warner, as long as it would > fit, so here is my > story. I had my friends along with me this day, they had > to give me a lift > anyway :) > > Me: I need a Muncie 4 speed or a Borg Warner for a 66 > Chevelle; just about > any GM 4 speed will work, as long as it is for a 69 > block. > > Dork (asst. manager at that looked like a rat): Ok lets > see > here.. I don't see it on the computer let me > check the book. Is > it a Turbo 350? > > Me: No, I have a Muncie M22 4 speed, thats an automatic. > > Dork: Ok how about a TH 350? > > Me: No, thats also an automatic, I have a Muncie. > > Dork: A Turbo 400? > > Me (patiently, but beginning to loose my cool): No, > another automatic, I > need a 4 speed. > > Dork: A TH400? > > Me: No, automatic. > > Dork: AHA! A Powerglide, thats it isn't it? > > Me (thats it, this moron messed with the wrong guy on the > wrong day): NO, > NO, NO, I want a 4 speed.. You know a stick, a manual, a > gear grinder > whatever the Hell you call it you Jackass! In a Manual (I > stressed manual) > car you have instead of 2 pedels you have three, and its > not an emergency > brake!!! When you have one of these you have to push in > the far left big > pedel to cahnge your gears, in my case I go 1,2,3,4 to go > forward and all > the way over to the left and up to get to reverse!! I DO > NOT HAVE A GD > AUTOMATIC!! All the transmissions you have just named > are AUTOMATICS, > prabably like whatever POS you drive, do you now > understand what I am > talking about? > > Moron: Oh, we don't carry those, we can get one for a > Mustang though. > > Me: FU (then I stormed out with my giggling best > buds right behind) > > That right there made me not step a foot back in the > place until one of my > friends got a job there and I knew he knew what he was > talking about, not to > mention he would give me his employee discount on the > more expensive stuff. > Josh > 66SS396 > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems > >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:56:07 EDT > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > List > > > > > >i hope it wasn't pep boys. those people are about the > dumbest around. at > >the stores around here, they don't know how to look up > something as simple > >as > >a fuel pump or a gasket. i went and asked for a big > block oil pan gasket > >and > >the kid didn't know what a big block was. he thought it > was a 305. i just > >had to shake my head and said that isn't a big block is > it. > > > >Tom > > > >- > >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > >To start a new topic, send mail to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = André __ Do You Yahoo!? Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hee hee. I've got a better story than that.. This happened at the Advance Auto Parts here before they got new managment and got guy in there that knew what they were talking about. I blowed the tailshaft on my transmission and I was going to see if I couldn't buy a new tranny and forget about it, I was willing to go with a Borg Warner, as long as it would fit, so here is my story. I had my friends along with me this day, they had to give me a lift anyway :) Me: I need a Muncie 4 speed or a Borg Warner for a 66 Chevelle; just about any GM 4 speed will work, as long as it is for a 69 block. Dork (asst. manager at that looked like a rat): Ok lets see here.. I don't see it on the computer let me check the book. Is it a Turbo 350? Me: No, I have a Muncie M22 4 speed, thats an automatic. Dork: Ok how about a TH 350? Me: No, thats also an automatic, I have a Muncie. Dork: A Turbo 400? Me (patiently, but beginning to loose my cool): No, another automatic, I need a 4 speed. Dork: A TH400? Me: No, automatic. Dork: AHA! A Powerglide, thats it isn't it? Me (thats it, this moron messed with the wrong guy on the wrong day): NO, NO, NO, I want a 4 speed.. You know a stick, a manual, a gear grinder whatever the Hell you call it you Jackass! In a Manual (I stressed manual) car you have instead of 2 pedels you have three, and its not an emergency brake!!! When you have one of these you have to push in the far left big pedel to cahnge your gears, in my case I go 1,2,3,4 to go forward and all the way over to the left and up to get to reverse!! I DO NOT HAVE A GD AUTOMATIC!! All the transmissions you have just named are AUTOMATICS, prabably like whatever POS you drive, do you now understand what I am talking about? Moron: Oh, we don't carry those, we can get one for a Mustang though. Me: FU (then I stormed out with my giggling best buds right behind) That right there made me not step a foot back in the place until one of my friends got a job there and I knew he knew what he was talking about, not to mention he would give me his employee discount on the more expensive stuff. Josh 66SS396 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:56:07 EDT > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >i hope it wasn't pep boys. those people are about the dumbest around. at >the stores around here, they don't know how to look up something as simple >as >a fuel pump or a gasket. i went and asked for a big block oil pan gasket >and >the kid didn't know what a big block was. he thought it was a 305. i just >had to shake my head and said that isn't a big block is it. > >Tom > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pep boys did so bad they lasted only 1 1/2 years here in Oregon and Washington. Larry
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List i hope it wasn't pep boys. those people are about the dumbest around. at the stores around here, they don't know how to look up something as simple as a fuel pump or a gasket. i went and asked for a big block oil pan gasket and the kid didn't know what a big block was. he thought it was a 305. i just had to shake my head and said that isn't a big block is it. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List thanks, i just got back from the parts store and NO ONE heard about the different motor mounts, geesh =) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] header install problems > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > yes changing the motor mounts will help. the 307 motor mounts sits higher > than other small block > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I just installed a set of Hedmans, but they were a different part number - 68600. They fit very nicely, I don't have any clearance problems. Since they are a shorty-style header, ground clearance is improved as well. Summit sells them (they aren't shown in the catalog, you have to call and ask for them). Galen - Original Message - From: Daniel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:13 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] header install problems I'm havin problems installing my new hedman headers (#68290). The driver's side header hits the mount for the lower control arm. So bad that it would have to move over about a half inch just to install them. My question is (before I try to take em back) could it be because I have the wrong motor mounts? The PO replaced a 307 with the 350 and I've heard that the motor mounts are different, maybe he didn't change them. What do you guys think? Could I put the correct mounts on to fix this problem? The motor needs to go down a bit. Or I'm open to other ideas. Oh, also if there isn't a solution, what headers do you guys recommend? Thanks all for answering my questions, Daniel72 Malibu 350/35053 GMC97 Intrepid
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List yes changing the motor mounts will help. the 307 motor mounts sits higher than other small block - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List If you already have the exhaust stuff off to put headers in, changing the motor mount is a pretty simple job, and they are cheap too. There are two different heights that I've seen myself. I think the brand name at the parts store was Anchor, but there are two different mounts, one is part # 2283, and the other is #2412 (i think). The latter is a "shorter" mount, at least compared to the 2283. See if your parts guy has these and you can visually compare them. If you're going to change one mount, you should probably change both. But, it's a relatively easy job with the exhaust off.. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] header install problems I'm havin problems installing my new hedman headers (#68290). The driver's side header hits the mount for the lower control arm. So bad that it would have to move over about a half inch just to install them. My question is (before I try to take em back) could it be because I have the wrong motor mounts? The PO replaced a 307 with the 350 and I've heard that the motor mounts are different, maybe he didn't change them. What do you guys think? Could I put the correct mounts on to fix this problem? The motor needs to go down a bit. Or I'm open to other ideas. Oh, also if there isn't a solution, what headers do you guys recommend? Thanks all for answering my questions, Daniel 72 Malibu 350/350 53 GMC 97 Intrepid - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] header install problems
I'm havin problems installing my new hedman headers (#68290). The driver's side header hits the mount for the lower control arm. So bad that it would have to move over about a half inch just to install them. My question is (before I try to take em back) could it be because I have the wrong motor mounts? The PO replaced a 307 with the 350 and I've heard that the motor mounts are different, maybe he didn't change them. What do you guys think? Could I put the correct mounts on to fix this problem? The motor needs to go down a bit. Or I'm open to other ideas. Oh, also if there isn't a solution, what headers do you guys recommend? Thanks all for answering my questions, Daniel72 Malibu 350/35053 GMC97 Intrepid
