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In a message dated 6/7/2003 8:50:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are 68-72 Elcamino frames excusive to Elcamino and wagons? Is there any difference? Kind Regards, JDHall Yes, They are 4 inches longer than the standard Chevelle frame. El Camino frames are also stronger since they are boxed. Tom
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They are the same. In fact, you could use a frame from any GM A-Body coupe (Chevelle, Monte Carlo, Cutlass, GTO, Skylark) from 1968-72. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Lentz Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Frame question I found a rust-free, straight, Arizona frame for a 70 Cutlass 2-door HT for $250.00. The frame is already stripped except for the front sway bar and the fuel/brake lines. I just wanted to make sure that everything is the same as a Chevelle frame so I can put it under my 70SS without any surprises. Can anybody give me a quick note letting me know if the frames are the same. Do they have the same part number so I can verify? Thanks for your help, Steve --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 2/14/2003 4:43:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I found a rust-free, straight, Arizona frame for a 70 Cutlass 2-door HT for $250.00. The frame is already stripped except for the front sway bar and the fuel/brake lines. I just wanted to make sure that everything is the same as a Chevelle frame so I can put it under my 70SS without any surprises. Can anybody give me a quick note letting me know if the frames are the same. Do they have the same part number so I can verify? Thanks for your help, Steve Identical Tom
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Thanks John and Tom. I'll let the guy know and try to swim out to my car trailerand get it ready to pick up the frame (we got hammered with rain over the past two days, but the sun is out now and everything is starting to dry). Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:25 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Frame questionIn a message dated 2/14/2003 4:43:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I found a rust-free, straight, Arizona frame for a 70 Cutlass 2-door HT for$250.00. The frame is already stripped except for the front sway bar andthe fuel/brake lines. I just wanted to make sure that everything is thesame as a Chevelle frame so I can put it under my 70SS without anysurprises. Can anybody give me a quick note letting me know if the framesare the same. Do they have the same part number so I can verify?Thanks for your help,SteveIdenticalTom
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Good luck Steve. BTW are you related to Tom Lentz? He is another car buff. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Lentz Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Frame question Thanks John and Tom. I'll let the guy know and try to swim out to my car trailerand get it ready to pick up the frame (we got hammered with rain over the past two days, but the sun is out now and everything is starting to dry). Steve
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John, No, I don't think I'm related to Tom...but if he's rich, let me know, I'll check it out further ;*) Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John NastaSent: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:48 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Frame question Good luck Steve. BTW are you related to Tom Lentz? He is another car buff. John Nasta -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen LentzSent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:36 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Frame question Thanks John and Tom. I'll let the guy know and try to swim out to my car trailerand get it ready to pick up the frame (we got hammered with rain over the past two days, but the sun is out now and everything is starting to dry). Steve
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Title: Message Dale, it's vary common in machanical drawingswere there are but one or two variations to a specificv areadimension. To only have one drawing and call out the different individual measurements per model or option. - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Frame question Wayne was kind enough to point out the document a couple of days ago, thank you. The Chassis service manual. Problem I had with my copy (Detroit Iron CD) is they hae a top and side views with no difference in the drawn lengths. There are two different measurements indicated to the rear body mounting point, one for wagons/Elkys and one for everthing else but only one drawing. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale's Place Team67Midwest Chevelle Regionals i think Larry Z put it in print!
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Title: Message Wayne was kind enough to point out the document a couple of days ago, thank you. The Chassis service manual. Problem I had with my copy (Detroit Iron CD) is they hae a top and side views with no difference in the drawn lengths. There are two different measurements indicated to the rear body mounting point, one for wagons/Elkys and one for everthing else but only one drawing. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale's Place Team67Midwest Chevelle Regionals i think Larry Z put it in print!
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In a message dated 11/26/02 6:30:08 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . I’m not doubting anyone’s word as I’ve never had to swap frames but I’d like to see it in print for reference. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 i think Larry Z put it in print!
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According to the GM Parts Accessories book, there are a total of 4 frames for 64-67 Chevelles with these notes: 3878327 64-66 Chevelle (exc Sta Wag., El Camino) (Note 1,2) 3876907 64-66 El Camino, Sta. Wag. (Note 1) 389 67 Chevelle (Conv.) (Note 1) 3893335 67 Sta. Wag, El Camino (Note 1) Note 1: When using these frames on Spt. Cpe., Sta. Wag., and 1964-1966 Sedans transmission support 3931446 must be used. Note 2: When using on 4 Door Sport Sedan models it will be necessary to rework the inner portion of the Side Members to provide clearance with the longitudinal Reinforcement, welded to the underbody. I dont see it mentioned anywhere that 4 must be removed from any frame to fit Spt. Cpe. or Convertibles. In 1967, ALL Chevelles, be they Malibu, 300, Wagon or Elky all have a 115 wheelbase and exactly the same tread widths (front and rear), same overall width, and same front and rear fender overall width. Where are the 4 cut from? If someone has first-hand knowledge or know of a reputable website that shows Elky or station wagon frames from 64-67 have to be shortened to fit the Sport Coupe/Convertible, please direct me to it. Im not doubting anyones word as Ive never had to swap frames but Id like to see it in print for reference. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale's Place Team67 Midwest Chevelle Regionals -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Frame question No john 64-67 el caminos are 4 inches longer than the coupes. Larry (z)
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Dale. In the Chevrolet/Chevelle chassis Service manual section 02, page 2, fig 2, is a Chevelle frame dimension drawing. It use the funtion of a datum plane for vertial dimensions and body mount and locating pin holes for horizontal demensions. From the center line of the radiator mounting hole to a locating hole on the side of the frame at about the upper A arm gussets is 32.12 in ALL And all other dimension are the same, ALL models EXCEPT STATION WAGON PICK-UP ( El -Camino). This one and only variation deals with thedimensionlength to the rear body mount. Thewheel base/lower control arm bolt location ect are the same. A body sedan,coupe convertible 145.35 + 32.12 = 177.47 in. A body station wagon el-camino 148.62 + 32.12 = 180.74 in. Thus the station wagone el-camino have and extra frame length from the last rear side bodymount to the end back body mount of 3.27in or 3 9/32of an inch. Wayne ACES 1556 TCG 186 - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 6:17 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Frame question According to the GM Parts Accessories book, there are a total of 4 frames for 64-67 Chevelles with these notes: 3878327 64-66 Chevelle (exc Sta Wag., El Camino) (Note 1,2) 3876907 64-66 El Camino, Sta. Wag. (Note 1) 389 67 Chevelle (Conv.) (Note 1) 3893335 67 Sta. Wag, El Camino (Note 1) Note 1: When using these frames on Spt. Cpe., Sta. Wag., and 1964-1966 Sedans transmission support 3931446 must be used. Note 2: When using on 4 Door Sport Sedan models it will be necessary to rework the inner portion of the Side Members to provide clearance with the longitudinal Reinforcement, welded to the underbody. I dont see it mentioned anywhere that 4 must be removed from any frame to fit Spt. Cpe. or Convertibles. In 1967, ALL Chevelles, be they Malibu, 300, Wagon or Elky all have a 115 wheelbase and exactly the same tread widths (front and rear), same overall width, and same front and rear fender overall width. Where are the 4 cut from? If someone has first-hand knowledge or know of a reputable website that shows Elky or station wagon frames from 64-67 have to be shortened to fit the Sport Coupe/Convertible, please direct me to it. Im not doubting anyones word as Ive never had to swap frames but Id like to see it in print for reference. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale's Place Team67Midwest Chevelle Regionals -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:23 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Frame question No john 64-67 el caminos are 4 inches longer than the coupes. Larry (z)
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Wrong year, Clint. Besides, how else would I know the difference between the SS/Malibu frame and the Elky/Wagon? Of course, I have one of each so (1) why should I care and (2) how come I havent crawled under them both to measure? J Seriously though, Ill keep an eye out for a 68/69 in particular and anything other year in general you might like. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale's Place Team67 Midwest Chevelle Regionals -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Frame question Maybe Dale needs to sell me his 67 Elky. Two Chevelles is too many to keep up with. :-) Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh Since I have one of each (2-dr SS coupe and Elky), I need to crawl under them and look this over. J Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale's Place Team67 Midwest Chevelle Regionals
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Oh,I don't know,Dale. Your 67 Elky is pretty darned nice. I wouldn't shoo it outta my driveway.:-))) Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh Wrong year, Clint. Besides, how else would I know the difference between the SS/Malibu frame and the Elky/Wagon? Of course, I have one of each so (1) why should I care and (2) how come I havent crawled under them both to measure? J Seriously though, Ill keep an eye out for a 68/69 in particular and anything other year in general you might like. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale's Place Team67Midwest Chevelle Regionals -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:04 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Frame question Maybe Dale needs to sell me his 67 Elky. Two Chevelles is too many to keep up with. :-) Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh Since I have one of each (2-dr SS coupe and Elky), I need to crawl under them and look this over. J Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale's Place Team67Midwest Chevelle Regionals
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Dale: maybe it don't say it but trust me it will work :) Larry (z)
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Dale: You may want to go back to old list subjects. we talked about it early this year. i believe it was about 8-10 months ago. you cut the 3 plus inches out of the back rails. i will look for the email i have about it. i have never seen any book mention that it will work. i have swapped. the reason I'm using an el camino over the convert is i can get an elkie frame for 100 bucks vz 500 for a convert frame the el camino / convert cross member bolts up different than the C frame cross member. Another good source would be Dick at true connections. he could verify the cutting. Larry (Z)
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Steve There are companies making frames for older Corvettes and another company making frames for 55-57 chevys and there are shurely other companies making frames. Check out modern hot rodders such as Curries...mayby you only need a back half. Have you tries a Google search and checked out your latest chevy magazine? New corvette frames are about 3500 dollars or so; used are about half of that. I'd keep an eye out for what someone else pointed out...a west or mid west frame. You may have to wait a few months, but you should be able to find one. Hope this helps. Bill C CT - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks to everyone for helping me with my 70 Chevelle frame question. I will keep looking for a good used one. If I understand it correctly, any two-door A-body frame will work from 68-72 (hopefully without modifications). Anybody know what a fair price would be? I live in Arizona. P.S. While looking for my frame, I've been finding more stuff for my fathers 66 Chevelle SS. I had a guy tell me that he had a 66 Box frame that would fit my dad's Chevelle. He said it came off of a 66 Elky but would work fine. He also told me that my dad's frame is a C frame so the box would fit better. Something doesn't seem right. Can anybody tell me if this is true because the frame is straight, rust-free, and $500.00. Thanks again, Steve - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Steve, There were some many cars made with the Chevelle frame that there has GOT to be examples out there. In fact, there were a couple of frames for sale on this list just a few weeks ago. Craig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Lentz Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 10:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Frame question Can anyone out there tell me if anybody is making new frames for Chevelle? If so, what type of price range are we looking at? (It's ok...I'm sitting down). I need a good rust-free frame for my 70 SS and my dad need a frame and possibly even a straight body to assist with restoring his 66 SS. We live in Arizona now, but it seems like all those Arizona Cars have already been shipped out of state. Second...I just picked up the Super Chevy Chevelle magazine and couldn't resist checking out the awesome looking 71 Elky on pages 84-86. Interesting to note that the tech box lists the transmission as a Muncie M-22 four speed with a 3,800-rpm stall convertervery interesting...Hmm...must be what he's hauling in the bed. As far as the frame question, any help would be appreciated. P.S. Dads 66 is still in Pennsylvania, but I doubt there are still any good frames/bodies remaining there either. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Whether the frame is boxed or C-channel has nothing at all to do with how it will fit. The person who said that is just blowing smoke. The boxed frame is used on the El Camino because it does not have the same amount of support from the roof as a coupe or sedan. Convertibles also got boxed frames for the same reason. Keep in mind that a boxed frame is much heavier. John Nasta -Original Message- Thanks to everyone for helping me with my 70 Chevelle frame question. I will keep looking for a good used one. If I understand it correctly, any two-door A-body frame will work from 68-72 (hopefully without modifications). Anybody know what a fair price would be? I live in Arizona. P.S. While looking for my frame, I've been finding more stuff for my fathers 66 Chevelle SS. I had a guy tell me that he had a 66 Box frame that would fit my dad's Chevelle. He said it came off of a 66 Elky but would work fine. He also told me that my dad's frame is a C frame so the box would fit better. Something doesn't seem right. Can anybody tell me if this is true because the frame is straight, rust-free, and $500.00. Thanks again, Steve - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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John is correct - that's why 'verts have always been called wiggle wagons in Detroit. The most notorious was when the F body 'vert was built by American Sunroof (ASC). They took production hardtops and cut the roof off and installed a ragtop without doing any stiffening work. I think ASC did this to BMW's, too, but they did quite a lot more structural work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Frame question Whether the frame is boxed or C-channel has nothing at all to do with how it will fit. The person who said that is just blowing smoke. The boxed frame is used on the El Camino because it does not have the same amount of support from the roof as a coupe or sedan. Convertibles also got boxed frames for the same reason. Keep in mind that a boxed frame is much heavier. John Nasta -Original Message- Thanks to everyone for helping me with my 70 Chevelle frame question. I will keep looking for a good used one. If I understand it correctly, any two-door A-body frame will work from 68-72 (hopefully without modifications). Anybody know what a fair price would be? I live in Arizona. P.S. While looking for my frame, I've been finding more stuff for my fathers 66 Chevelle SS. I had a guy tell me that he had a 66 Box frame that would fit my dad's Chevelle. He said it came off of a 66 Elky but would work fine. He also told me that my dad's frame is a C frame so the box would fit better. Something doesn't seem right. Can anybody tell me if this is true because the frame is straight, rust-free, and $500.00. Thanks again, Steve - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Elky frames are 4 longer and you have to cut and weld them to make them fit. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I looked at a Mustang convertible once that had so much floorboard rot that the passenger side door was pinched shut and would no longer open. My guess is that if it was opened, the car would have folded in half. That's why the support from underneath is so much more important on convertibles. John Nasta -Original Message- John is correct - that's why 'verts have always been called wiggle wagons in Detroit. The most notorious was when the F body 'vert was built by American Sunroof (ASC). They took production hardtops and cut the roof off and installed a ragtop without doing any stiffening work. I think ASC did this to BMW's, too, but they did quite a lot more structural work. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That's true for 1968-72, but not 1964-67. Steve was asking about a 66. John Nasta -Original Message- Elky frames are 4 longer and you have to cut and weld them to make them fit. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mustangs are unibody cars, so they tend to fold easier with rot. Later, WEIMER - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Frame question I looked at a Mustang convertible once that had so much floorboard rot that the passenger side door was pinched shut and would no longer open. My guess is that if it was opened, the car would have folded in half. That's why the support from underneath is so much more important on convertibles. John Nasta -Original Message- John is correct - that's why 'verts have always been called wiggle wagons in Detroit. The most notorious was when the F body 'vert was built by American Sunroof (ASC). They took production hardtops and cut the roof off and installed a ragtop without doing any stiffening work. I think ASC did this to BMW's, too, but they did quite a lot more structural work. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that convertibles need more support from below than coupes sedans. A full-frame convertible with a rotted frame could suffer the same fate. John Nasta -Original Message- Mustangs are unibody cars, so they tend to fold easier with rot. Later, WEIMER - Original Message - I looked at a Mustang convertible once that had so much floorboard rot that the passenger side door was pinched shut and would no longer open. My guess is that if it was opened, the car would have folded in half. That's why the support from underneath is so much more important on convertibles. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I wasn't implying that they didn't need as more support from below. But a full-frame convertible with a rotted floor isn't going to suffer as bad as a uni-body with a rotted floor.Apples to Oranges. Later, WEIMER - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Frame question Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that convertibles need more support from below than coupes sedans. A full-frame convertible with a rotted frame could suffer the same fate. John Nasta -Original Message- Mustangs are unibody cars, so they tend to fold easier with rot. Later, WEIMER - Original Message - I looked at a Mustang convertible once that had so much floorboard rot that the passenger side door was pinched shut and would no longer open. My guess is that if it was opened, the car would have folded in half. That's why the support from underneath is so much more important on convertibles. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey John Just as a FYI for the early cars you have to cut about 2inches off of the elky frame to make it fit a malibu. We have a elky frame under my uncle's 64 conv. Other than sectioning the rear frame rails it was a dead on match, bolt hole to bolt hole. JJ Fig On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, John Nasta wrote: That's true for 1968-72, but not 1964-67. Steve was asking about a 66. John Nasta -Original Message- Elky frames are 4 longer and you have to cut and weld them to make them fit. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Frame question -- my un-related $.02
When we pulled the body off my dad's '63 Vette years ago, the frame was so rotted it immediately collapsed under its own weight. The body structure was holding it together. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Frame question Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that convertibles need more support from below than coupes sedans. A full-frame convertible with a rotted frame could suffer the same fate. John Nasta -Original Message- Mustangs are unibody cars, so they tend to fold easier with rot. Later, WEIMER - Original Message - I looked at a Mustang convertible once that had so much floorboard rot that the passenger side door was pinched shut and would no longer open. My guess is that if it was opened, the car would have folded in half. That's why the support from underneath is so much more important on convertibles. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Steve: the el camino frame will work but you have to shorten it approximately 4 inches (almost 4 its actually 3 something) at the rear. A convertible frame will also work but with no mods like the el camino. you would have to use the cross member out of an el camino or convertible though. Larry (z)
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mustangs didn't have frames Larry (z)
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No john 64-67 el caminos are 4 inches longer than the coupes. Larry (z)
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I know of a 1968 skylark also. Its in munhall, near where I live. Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Frame question PREsteve, i know of one for a 68 buick sky lark, but i do not know if it is the same or not if you want the info let me know e- mail me - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No one makes frames for the cars, well yet anyways. I seriously doubt you will find a rust free frame. That is just about unheard of. Best bet is to keep an eye on the west coast or midwestern cars, but I bet even they have surface rust on the frames. Tom
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Steve: Art Morrison was at one time making frames for CHEVELLES. They were not cheap. I haven't looked lately but here is their link. Art Morrison - Street Rod - Drag Racing - Automotive Aftermarket For a used one try True Connections in riverside California. Someone on the list was looking for one last year. I directed them and they fixed him up. True ConnectionsChevelle ElCamino Phone: 1-800-600-4144 Larry (Z)
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PREsteve, i know of one for a 68 buick sky lark, but i do not know if it is the same or not if you want the info let me know e- mail me - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
