Re: [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth
I saw the Willys Truck also-the re-paint took it out of the coupes class - but still nice to see an unmolested 41. To me both seemed like a 4/5 scale model of a 40 Ford. I didn't realize that they were compact We think alike when it comes to the MOPAR Super Stockers. The one had its hood perched up on the roof -Just like the good ole days at Islip speedway. I took a pic of the Lancer - Was talking with a young couple whose last name was Lancer -they were fascinated by the name - Once I pointed out the tri-tone paint they were really fascinated, they hadn't noticed. Last thing I didn't mention before, I noticed maybe 4 or 5 National Chevelle Owners Association window decals, but not one from ACES - I might have just missed them but it struck me as a bit odd. Maybe we can meetup in OCT. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Dale a396...@fidnet.com wrote: I only spent Saturday there but saw a lot of the things you did. LS-type motors are showing up more and more in just about everything – saw a lot of 55/56 Chevys with them. I loved the 41 Willys Americar, there was a pickup that while wasn’t as original, it wasn’t ‘gassed’ either. Some of the rat rods are downright scary to think they’d be street legal. Loved the old MoPar Super Stock type cars from the early to mid 60s. Did you catch the tri-color 55 Dodge Lancer? Black, white, and pink. I’ve taken the ride before and it definitely is an eye-opener and makes you appreciate what these guys do week-in and week-out for 3+ hours. I’ll be back there in October myself! Dale *From:* chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] *On Behalf Of *Rick Schaefer *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:45 PM *To:* chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth Spent 2 mornings there. Had a great time. Don't know whether I'm inspired to get my elky back on the road or discouraged by the high quality of workmanship on display. I also learned several things: 1- LS type motors will fit in anything. 2-Big (18inch+) wheels DONT belong on classics from the 50's 60's or 70's. 3-If a 57 Chevy has Fuel Injection badges on the fender, it is probably NOT a Rochester unit (see 1 above). 4-Don't throw anything away if it is worn, rusted or generally unusable - The Rat Rod crowd can find a use for virtually anything. It probably is as much work to achieve the correct patina on a rat rod as to achieve a first class paint job on a classic or rod. 5- Many AC Cobra kit car owners insist on listing their vehicles as a 64 or 65and I'm sorry but even as a chevy guy I can't condone an LS motor in a Cobra. 6-I like seeing MOPAR street rods with MOPAR propulsion; and Ford Street rods with a Ford powerplant. I understand that a 350 is cheaperto build, but really. 7-An ORIGINAL unmolested 41 Willys Autocar is a cool and rare car in its own right. 8-An unrestored (needing it) 52 Pontiac All Steel Woodie Wagon with a 389 should NOT be advertised with the tag line Its Only Original Once! 9-Its cool as heck to watch the AutoCross, where an unknown from Kansas dominates the PRO autocrossers. Including Kyle Stacy from Detroit Speed, A Hotchkiss Truck, a Camaro built for Spectre and a Mustang from a Name shop. I don't know how it ended, but at noon on Friday the unknown had a full second lead in a 40 second or so lap. 10-During the October GoodGuys Event, *I AM* going to take a 150MPH ride with the pseudo-NASCAR concession. 11- It is entirely possible to get overloaded with great cars. After 2 or 3 hours they started looking very similar. Maybe I'm just getting to be a grouchy ole man Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino image001.gif
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Honestly I didn't pay as much attention to the Chevelles as I did the others. None really caught my eye and I see a lot of them at the Chevelle-specific shows I go to. It's the hot rods, customs of the 50s, old super stockers, etc. that I don't get to see much of around here that I keyed in on. Meeting up sounds great, haven't seen you in a long time. We generally go down Friday nit and just spend Saturday at the show. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:01 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth I saw the Willys Truck also-the re-paint took it out of the coupes class - but still nice to see an unmolested 41. To me both seemed like a 4/5 scale model of a 40 Ford. I didn't realize that they were compact We think alike when it comes to the MOPAR Super Stockers. The one had its hood perched up on the roof -Just like the good ole days at Islip speedway. I took a pic of the Lancer - Was talking with a young couple whose last name was Lancer -they were fascinated by the name - Once I pointed out the tri-tone paint they were really fascinated, they hadn't noticed. Last thing I didn't mention before, I noticed maybe 4 or 5 National Chevelle Owners Association window decals, but not one from ACES - I might have just missed them but it struck me as a bit odd. Maybe we can meetup in OCT. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Dale a396...@fidnet.com wrote: I only spent Saturday there but saw a lot of the things you did. LS-type motors are showing up more and more in just about everything - saw a lot of 55/56 Chevys with them. I loved the 41 Willys Americar, there was a pickup that while wasn't as original, it wasn't 'gassed' either. Some of the rat rods are downright scary to think they'd be street legal. Loved the old MoPar Super Stock type cars from the early to mid 60s. Did you catch the tri-color 55 Dodge Lancer? Black, white, and pink. I've taken the ride before and it definitely is an eye-opener and makes you appreciate what these guys do week-in and week-out for 3+ hours. I'll be back there in October myself! Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:45 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth Spent 2 mornings there. Had a great time. Don't know whether I'm inspired to get my elky back on the road or discouraged by the high quality of workmanship on display. I also learned several things: 1- LS type motors will fit in anything. 2-Big (18inch+) wheels DONT belong on classics from the 50's 60's or 70's. 3-If a 57 Chevy has Fuel Injection badges on the fender, it is probably NOT a Rochester unit (see 1 above). 4-Don't throw anything away if it is worn, rusted or generally unusable - The Rat Rod crowd can find a use for virtually anything. It probably is as much work to achieve the correct patina on a rat rod as to achieve a first class paint job on a classic or rod. 5- Many AC Cobra kit car owners insist on listing their vehicles as a 64 or 65and I'm sorry but even as a chevy guy I can't condone an LS motor in a Cobra. 6-I like seeing MOPAR street rods with MOPAR propulsion; and Ford Street rods with a Ford powerplant. I understand that a 350 is cheaperto build, but really. 7-An ORIGINAL unmolested 41 Willys Autocar is a cool and rare car in its own right. 8-An unrestored (needing it) 52 Pontiac All Steel Woodie Wagon with a 389 should NOT be advertised with the tag line Its Only Original Once! 9-Its cool as heck to watch the AutoCross, where an unknown from Kansas dominates the PRO autocrossers. Including Kyle Stacy from Detroit Speed, A Hotchkiss Truck, a Camaro built for Spectre and a Mustang from a Name shop. I don't know how it ended, but at noon on Friday the unknown had a full second lead in a 40 second or so lap. 10-During the October GoodGuys Event, I AM going to take a 150MPH ride with the pseudo-NASCAR concession. 11- It is entirely possible to get overloaded with great cars. After 2 or 3 hours they started looking very similar. Maybe I'm just getting to be a grouchy ole man Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth
I only spent Saturday there but saw a lot of the things you did. LS-type motors are showing up more and more in just about everything - saw a lot of 55/56 Chevys with them. I loved the 41 Willys Americar, there was a pickup that while wasn't as original, it wasn't 'gassed' either. Some of the rat rods are downright scary to think they'd be street legal. Loved the old MoPar Super Stock type cars from the early to mid 60s. Did you catch the tri-color 55 Dodge Lancer? Black, white, and pink. I've taken the ride before and it definitely is an eye-opener and makes you appreciate what these guys do week-in and week-out for 3+ hours. I'll be back there in October myself! Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:45 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth Spent 2 mornings there. Had a great time. Don't know whether I'm inspired to get my elky back on the road or discouraged by the high quality of workmanship on display. I also learned several things: 1- LS type motors will fit in anything. 2-Big (18inch+) wheels DONT belong on classics from the 50's 60's or 70's. 3-If a 57 Chevy has Fuel Injection badges on the fender, it is probably NOT a Rochester unit (see 1 above). 4-Don't throw anything away if it is worn, rusted or generally unusable - The Rat Rod crowd can find a use for virtually anything. It probably is as much work to achieve the correct patina on a rat rod as to achieve a first class paint job on a classic or rod. 5- Many AC Cobra kit car owners insist on listing their vehicles as a 64 or 65and I'm sorry but even as a chevy guy I can't condone an LS motor in a Cobra. 6-I like seeing MOPAR street rods with MOPAR propulsion; and Ford Street rods with a Ford powerplant. I understand that a 350 is cheaperto build, but really. 7-An ORIGINAL unmolested 41 Willys Autocar is a cool and rare car in its own right. 8-An unrestored (needing it) 52 Pontiac All Steel Woodie Wagon with a 389 should NOT be advertised with the tag line Its Only Original Once! 9-Its cool as heck to watch the AutoCross, where an unknown from Kansas dominates the PRO autocrossers. Including Kyle Stacy from Detroit Speed, A Hotchkiss Truck, a Camaro built for Spectre and a Mustang from a Name shop. I don't know how it ended, but at noon on Friday the unknown had a full second lead in a 40 second or so lap. 10-During the October GoodGuys Event, I AM going to take a 150MPH ride with the pseudo-NASCAR concession. 11- It is entirely possible to get overloaded with great cars. After 2 or 3 hours they started looking very similar. Maybe I'm just getting to be a grouchy ole man Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] What's it worth?
were they 7 or 8 ?? i just bought a set with caps and centers 8 for 200.00 very nice shape Harlan ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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What type, size? - Original Message From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:39:36 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] What's it worth? Can you guys give me an idea of what a set of 4 rallye wheels w/ caps and trim rings is worth? They're in good shape (not perfect). Thanks. Herb Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469
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It depends on the 2 letter code and manufacture date and what they were used on to see what they are worth, ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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They're 15 but I'm not sure if they're 7 or 8 wide. Once I get the tires off I'll know for sure. As for type, they're Chevy style. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Ziegler Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 8:45 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] What's it worth? What type, size? - Original Message From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:39:36 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] What's it worth? Can you guys give me an idea of what a set of 4 rallye wheels w/ caps and trim rings is worth? They're in good shape (not perfect). Thanks. Herb _ Looking for a deal? Find http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47094/*http://farechase.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFi cDJoNDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20- great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
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I've never checked numbers on wheels before but this is what I found: Two of the wheels have a 2 on one side of the valve stem and on the other 7 FW. In between the lug holes these same two wheels have K-1-5 and then across from that they have B and 9. One of the wheels has 11, 24 FW, K-1-8, 23, M. The forth wheel has too much paint on it to clearly see the stampings, I'll have to clean it off. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:02 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] What's it worth? It depends on the 2 letter code and manufacture date and what they were used on to see what they are worth, _ See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503 .
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So JD where is the car at in waldorf ;o) JJ Fig __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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If my brother doesn't go for it I will let you know! 8) The only interesting thing about is it still has a Lackey High School sticker from 78 in the rear window and he remembers the car. JD - Original Message - From: John Fig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Whats it worth? So JD where is the car at in waldorf ;o) JJ Fig __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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OK.. a 12 bolt rear $$ Cowl Hood $$ Bucket seats $$ console $$ and no rust in the floor or trunk... If that is the case,, the window channel should be in good condition... So in the greater Rust belt northeast,, I would say more in the 1000.oo woud be a steal and more like $2000.00... Wayne - Original Message - From: JDHall To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Whats it worth? I'm trying to help my brother find a project 70 chevelle. We looked at one today. Its a regular chevelle with a ss cowl hood ,buckets, console, and 12bolt. There is no motor. It pretty much needs the works however the floors ,trunk and frame are rock solid and rust free. It will probably need new quarters and fenders for a nice job. What should one of these realistically go for? Thanks!JD
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Well in reality it is only worth what you are willing to pay for it. I have bought running driving cars for less than a grand. Tom
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I'd would not pay more than $1000 honestly. No engine, trans, orpaperwork, it's nothing more than a rolling body. Tom
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I'd say 1,000 or so, nonmatching #'s, no motor. Sounds like a good project though, if the price is right. Brian '71 Malibu From: JDHall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] Whats it worth? Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:27:32 -0400 I'm trying to help my brother find a project 70 chevelle. We looked at one today. Its a regular chevelle with a ss cowl hood ,buckets, console, and 12bolt. There is no motor. It pretty much needs the works however the floors ,trunk and frame are rock solid and rust free. It will probably need new quarters and fenders for a nice job. What should one of these realistically go for? Thanks! JD _ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access helps fight spam and pop-ups now 2 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/
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Depending on how solid it is, how bad the floors are, etc. 750-1000 my guess.
Re: [Chevelle-List] Is it worth it??
Sure wouldn't be worth that much to me. Maybe half what he's asking? - Original Message - From: George Spatta To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:45 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Is it worth it?? Hi everyone, First let me say that I have enjoyed all of the advice and postings here for a long time. This is the 1st time I have actually posted to the list. I would like to get some opinions on a 66 Malibu I am thinking about purchasing to do a frame off restoration of. It is a 2 door Malibu hardtop and is in fairly rough shape. It basically needs rear quarters, hood, trunk lid, doors, floors, trunk metal. The interior with the exception of the dash needs to be replaced. It also needs a new windshield. The motor and tranny would be coming out so I'm not even considering them (a 350 backed by a powerglide). Essentially the car needs to be completely done. There is no evidence of frame damage that I could find and the car is all original although in terrible shape. I checked all the numbers (VIN cowl tag) and everything looks to be in order and original except for the motor. I can do all of the mechanical work myself at home ( I have a job that permits me a lot of free time) but I am not a welder and probably will have to farm most of the body work out. I realize that just the replacement body panels alone will cost a few thousand dollars. The guy is asking $2600 for the car I think I can get it cheaper. I'm unsure of what to do because these cars are becoming more rare by the day and everyone I do find has already been restored and have large price tags. Is a car this rough worth that much (not being an SS) as it is?? I will be building this car to drive and not worried about making money on it at a later time! Thanks for reading and for any thoughts you may have! George[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'd pass on this one George, 2600 is a lot for something that needs that much work. I have a '66 that came from Oregon and is very straight and in good condition. I paid 5000 for it. The real problem comes when you start stripping it down and find all the hidden problems you missed or couldn't see. Having someone replace all that sheet metal will cost you a small fortune. If it was an original SS I'd say yes. Rich"66 MalibuACES # 5066 - Original Message - From: George Spatta To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:45 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Is it worth it?? Hi everyone, First let me say that I have enjoyed all of the advice and postings here for a long time. This is the 1st time I have actually posted to the list. I would like to get some opinions on a 66 Malibu I am thinking about purchasing to do a frame off restoration of. It is a 2 door Malibu hardtop and is in fairly rough shape. It basically needs rear quarters, hood, trunk lid, doors, floors, trunk metal. The interior with the exception of the dash needs to be replaced. It also needs a new windshield. The motor and tranny would be coming out so I'm not even considering them (a 350 backed by a powerglide). Essentially the car needs to be completely done. There is no evidence of frame damage that I could find and the car is all original although in terrible shape. I checked all the numbers (VIN cowl tag) and everything looks to be in order and original except for the motor. I can do all of the mechanical work myself at home ( I have a job that permits me a lot of free time) but I am not a welder and probably will have to farm most of the body work out. I realize that just the replacement body panels alone will cost a few thousand dollars. The guy is asking $2600 for the car I think I can get it cheaper. I'm unsure of what to do because these cars are becoming more rare by the day and everyone I do find has already been restored and have large price tags. Is a car this rough worth that much (not being an SS) as it is?? I will be building this car to drive and not worried about making money on it at a later time! Thanks for reading and for any thoughts you may have! George[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Just MHO, but you'd be better off buying a rust-free car from out west - even if it cost twice as much. Unless you enjoy the work and have the time, skill and tools to do it yourself. You've listed a LOT of body work. Also, when I did this, I had to decide whether I wanted to drive it or show it. I chose to drive and, as a result, accepted a few compromises that I would not accept in a show car (like AC, stone chips, and the occassional french fry my kids grind into the carpet). Even with a rust-free beginning, you're still going to have 20k in it one day... Again, just MHO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of George Spatta Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Is it worth it?? Hi everyone, First let me say that I have enjoyed all of the advice and postings here for a long time. This is the 1st time I have actually posted to the list. I would like to get some opinions on a 66 Malibu I am thinking about purchasing to do a frame off restoration of. It is a 2 door Malibu hardtop and is in fairly rough shape. It basically needs rear quarters, hood, trunk lid, doors, floors, trunk metal. The interior with the exception of the dash needs to be replaced. It also needs a new windshield. The motor and tranny would be coming out so I'm not even considering them (a 350 backed by a powerglide). Essentially the car needs to be completely done. There is no evidence of frame damage that I could find and the car is all original although in terrible shape. I checked all the numbers (VIN cowl tag) and everything looks to be in order and original except for the motor. I can do all of the mechanical work myself at home ( I have a job that permits me a lot of free time) but I am not a welder and probably will have to farm most of the body work out. I realize that just the replacement body panels alone will cost a few thousand dollars. The guy is asking $2600 for the car I think I can get it cheaper. I'm unsure of what to do because these cars are becoming more rare by the day and everyone I do find has already been restored and have large price tags. Is a car this rough worth that much (not being an SS) as it is?? I will be building this car to drive and not worried about making money on it at a later time! Thanks for reading and for any thoughts you may have! George [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Way too much $$ for a rust bucket Malibu. You are better off looking for car with the body work done. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah but Everyone is saying too much money and too much rust...and they are right! But if you took a class in welding and was willing to learn the body work with help from a local Chevelle club or experts online.. ...AND you got the price down some more. Might make it worth it? The money you'd save from doing it yourself would buy you lots of equipment you'd have around afterwards and then many thousands more. You'd still be buying a lot of sheet metal and putting a lot of work into it. But if you shopped around and could find used parts that could save some as well. I sure hate to see any Chevelle go to the scrapper. But unless you are willing to learn the body work and do it yourself then pass. Hopefully someone that can do it themselves will pick it up. Mine turned out to need a lot more sheet metal than I had imagined. But I took a class in welding, got some experts over to give me an idea where I was and a plan to go on from there. Will try to do it myself with a little help from friends :) Steve - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Don't be in a hurry to buy something. You can find much better than you describe for much less. If you start with a project that is more in line with your abilities you are more likely to finish your project and continue to love the hobby. Your abilities will grow with your experience. You will make mistakes and some of them can be costly. Even with experience that still happens. I did bodywork and painting for a living at one time so I'm not terribly intimidated by rust and other bodywork. I knew how much work restoration is going in. I also know firsthand that there are many many projects that never get finished in spite of all the good intentions...I'm guilty. I looked for 2 years until I found a car that I liked. Now I'm 2 years and about $17000 into it and it's finally just about done. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chevelle 69 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Is it worth it?? Yeah but Everyone is saying too much money and too much rust...and they are right! But if you took a class in welding and was willing to learn the body work with help from a local Chevelle club or experts online.. ...AND you got the price down some more. Might make it worth it? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sounds expensive to me, considering what all needs to be done. Around here, $2600 would get a solid SS body/frame withquite a fewof the SS parts, brought in from out west or southwest. These are still around, but you are right, they are getting harder to find. We paid $800three years ago for a '66 SS. No: hood, front fenders, stock steering wheel, radiator and support, interior anything, engine or tranny, an Olds 10-bolt rear end, decent tires/wheels. Good: all glass, all interior/exterior chrome trim (ok condition), frame, trunk lid inside, doors. One small hole behind each rear wheelwell. And some idiot had jumped on the roof caved it in some. It came to WI from out west, and we are very happy to have one this solid to work on. We now have a correct 396 engine on a very slow rebuild, a repro SS hood from Goodmark (and I do not know how well it fits yet, but some of the lineslook kinda soft), radiator shroud, a correct 12 bolt unknown ratio, used but solid '66 fenders, a 4-speed and a Turbo 400 with a console for each, and some of the bucket seat interior. The roof is about 75% fixed, one quarter is done, and the other is started. And we are still under $2500 invested, but we shop slow, don't buy much new or repro, do some swapping, and do have a few parts available from our piles. Good luck on your search. It's all fun, but having a solid car to start with sure is more fun!! Jim central WI ACES #2020 2 - '66 SS's - Original Message - From: George Spatta To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:45 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Is it worth it?? Hi everyone, First let me say that I have enjoyed all of the advice and postings here for a long time. This is the 1st time I have actually posted to the list. I would like to get some opinions on a 66 Malibu I am thinking about purchasing to do a frame off restoration of. It is a 2 door Malibu hardtop and is in fairly rough shape. It basically needs rear quarters, hood, trunk lid, doors, floors, trunk metal. The interior with the exception of the dash needs to be replaced. It also needs a new windshield. The motor and tranny would be coming out so I'm not even considering them (a 350 backed by a powerglide). Essentially the car needs to be completely done. There is no evidence of frame damage that I could find and the car is all original although in terrible shape. I checked all the numbers (VIN cowl tag) and everything looks to be in order and original except for the motor. I can do all of the mechanical work myself at home ( I have a job that permits me a lot of free time) but I am not a welder and probably will have to farm most of the body work out. I realize that just the replacement body panels alone will cost a few thousand dollars. The guy is asking $2600 for the car I think I can get it cheaper. I'm unsure of what to do because these cars are becoming more rare by the day and everyone I do find has already been restored and have large price tags. Is a car this rough worth that much (not being an SS) as it is?? I will be building this car to drive and not worried about making money on it at a later time! Thanks for reading and for any thoughts you may have! George[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Where do you live? I'm moving there!!! You can't pick up a rusted out 1982 Honda Civic in Cleveland for under 500 bucks, much less an old classic. Dan McIntosh64 Impala SS - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Is it worth it?? Let's put it this way, I have bought better cars than this one for $500 and under that ran. this sounds like a $200 car to me, not anywhere near $2600. Example: I bought a 67 Chevelle 4 door, 300 Deluxe with a 230/powerglide, it ran, and I paid $300 for it. I just picked up a 1972 Plymouth Fury. The car is straight, barely any rust on it, has a 360 in it, disc brakes, interior is clean, bought it for $100.Honestly, I would pass on this one, seriously. If you do not know how to weld and fit your own panels (really not that hard even I can do it), you will pay major $ into a car that is not worth it. You will never get your money back out of it should you choose to go that route, trust me, I have been there. My dad nad I did all the work on my 70 SS. The only thing farmed out was the paint which knowing what I know I could probably do myself. In parts alone, I have spent well over $20,000. I have had offers for $23,000 cash and declined them.Tom
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This is sorta what I'm going through,right now. I can buy a driver 68-69 El Camino for around $3-4K but adding another couple of grand will allow me to buy something really decent. $8K will buy an excellent Elky. Decisions,decisions. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Heck, I bought my El Camino for $200. Of course it had no engine or transmission in it, but that was the least expensive part of the resto anyway. The main thing you want to look for is a good body frame IMO. John Nasta http://johnnasta.com/elcamino -Original Message- This is sorta what I'm going through,right now. I can buy a driver 68-69 El Camino for around $3-4K but adding another couple of grand will allow me to buy something really decent. $8K will buy an excellent Elky. Decisions,decisions. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm with you there John. Get a solid foundation to work with. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Is it worth it?? Heck, I bought my El Camino for $200. Of course it had no engine or transmission in it, but that was the least expensive part of the resto anyway. The main thing you want to look for is a good body frame IMO. John Nasta http://johnnasta.com/elcamino - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I could buy something like that but I want an El Camino I can drive enjoy while modifying it. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heck, I bought my El Camino for $200. Of course it had no engine or transmission in it, but that was the least expensive part of the resto anyway. The main thing you want to look for is a good body frame IMO. John Nasta http://johnnasta.com/elcamino -Original Message- This is sorta what I'm going through,right now. I can buy a driver 68-69 El Camino for around $3-4K but adding another couple of grand will allow me to buy something really decent. $8K will buy an excellent Elky. Decisions,decisions. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I could have driven mine as soon as the engine tranny were in but I really wanted to do the whole thing up first. It's very hard to drive a car and restore it at the same time because half of your time gets spent fixing things just to keep it on the road. Also, you can't get into anything that will tie up the car past sundown because you usually need to drive it home, or need it the next day, or whatever. I have been driving and slowly fixing one of my Oldsmobiles for over 4 years now and didn't want to do that with the El Camino. I wanted one car that was finished instead of 3 cars in the perpetual project stage. Anyway, as long as you're having a good time, that's what's important. John Nasta -Original Message- I could buy something like that but I want an El Camino I can drive enjoy while modifying it. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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George, Sounds like too much for the amount that you are going to have to put into it to me. I haven't been looking for a car like this to buyfor several years, but I am sure there is good bodies that won't need so much work for a lot less. Since I am on this list, I will be more in tune to what is on the market again. I just last night talked to a guy that had a 65 Impala 4 door for sale that was in real nice condition. If I had room for it, it would have been in my shop tonight. He was asking $2,800.00 for it but said he would take 2500. 283, 3sp on the column, SS Chevy wheels, and lots more that was nice. My point is that I think this 66 is too much. But there again if it is what you are looking for and how bad you want it and if you want toput that much money and work into it... Just my .02 . Ðäññÿ .. - Original Message - From: George Spatta To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:45 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Is it worth it?? Hi everyone, First let me say that I have enjoyed all of the advice and postings here for a long time. This is the 1st time I have actually posted to the list. I would like to get some opinions on a 66 Malibu I am thinking about purchasing to do a frame off restoration of. It is a 2 door Malibu hardtop and is in fairly rough shape. It basically needs rear quarters, hood, trunk lid, doors, floors, trunk metal. The interior with the exception of the dash needs to be replaced. It also needs a new windshield. The motor and tranny would be coming out so I'm not even considering them (a 350 backed by a powerglide). Essentially the car needs to be completely done. There is no evidence of frame damage that I could find and the car is all original although in terrible shape. I checked all the numbers (VIN cowl tag) and everything looks to be in order and original except for the motor. I can do all of the mechanical work myself at home ( I have a job that permits me a lot of free time) but I am not a welder and probably will have to farm most of the body work out. I realize that just the replacement body panels alone will cost a few thousand dollars. The guy is asking $2600 for the car I think I can get it cheaper. I'm unsure of what to do because these cars are becoming more rare by the day and everyone I do find has already been restored and have large price tags. Is a car this rough worth that much (not being an SS) as it is?? I will be building this car to drive and not worried about making money on it at a later time! Thanks for reading and for any thoughts you may have! George[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi again, Thanks to all you guys who took the time to think about answer my question. I am definitely going to heed all ofyour advice pass on this car to find one with a more solid body, or at least one where the welding is minimal. This being my 1st resto Chevelle (but not my 1st driver) I agree that it would be smarter to keep looking for something more in my "experience zone". I couldn't help but get excited when I found this Malibu barely 10 minutes away from where I work. It's funny how it's even possible to get excited looking at a rusty heap but I guess that's something only people who have been "bitten by the bug" would understand. Thanks again! George[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I totally understand that excitement feeling. Had it all my life! Ðäññÿ .. - Original Message - From: George Spatta To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Is it worth it?? Hi again, Thanks to all you guys who took the time to think about answer my question. I am definitely going to heed all ofyour advice pass on this car to find one with a more solid body, or at least one where the welding is minimal. This being my 1st resto Chevelle (but not my 1st driver) I agree that it would be smarter to keep looking for something more in my "experience zone". I couldn't help but get excited when I found this Malibu barely 10 minutes away from where I work. It's funny how it's even possible to get excited looking at a rusty heap but I guess that's something only people who have been "bitten by the bug" would understand. Thanks again! George[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 07:35 PM 9/14/02 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can any of you help me. I have a chance to purchase a 77 corvette but have little knowledge of them. (always been a chevelle guy). So, it looks to be in good to average condition the guy is asking 7500. It has a crack in the hood where the fan hit the underside (apparently the water pump went out on his son caused the damage) To me this sound like a good price But I really don't know about vet's. Any thing I should be looking for as I test drive this? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan Sorry for the extremely late reply.BUT I only check this news group a few times a week... BUY COSMETICS when buying a Corvette... I assume most of the readers in this newsgroup can turn a wrench and the C3 Corvette is a rather simple car..BUT you can burn money real fast when you start buying cosmetics... I own 5 Corvettes (64 72 76 79 95's) I also own a 68 SS 396 (clone but thats fine with me) Chevelle My son also owns a 68 SS (real) 396 Chevelle . my garages are filled with Chevelle parts and Corvette parts ..nothing new for a gear head who got his son hooked just as bad as the old man. I can tell you one thing Corvettes are just Chevys... But doing body work on them is more of a pain then with working with sheet metal.. As for body parts .. They are widely available but vary in quality even from the same vendors... replacing a front or rear bumper requires a hell of a lot of tweeking no matter where you get the replacement.. As for the price... ? well that all depends on the overall shape like any other car... 5K is about right for one needing a lot 12K is fine for one in great shape.. pretty big spread... The 75's thru 79's are all low HP cars BUT hell guys a SBC is still a SBC and getting my 76 (180 HP L48) to lay rubber in all 4 gears (ok it only chirps in 4th) was not a major expense... BUY COSMETICS when buying a Corvette... I said this before and I mean it... Bob Griffiths retired old fart who likes cars leaving in a hour to get an early start for this weekends Corvettes at Ocean City (Maryland) weekend... - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey Bob, I've always heard that Corvettes are subject to some sort of unusual frame rot (we are in Michigan, land of salt and water). I know nothing about them but a friend of mine says he puts one corner on a jack stand then jacks up the opposite corner in an effort to reveal flex that results from rot. Is any of this realistic? C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth? At 07:35 PM 9/14/02 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can any of you help me. I have a chance to purchase a 77 corvette but have little knowledge of them. (always been a chevelle guy). So, it looks to be in good to average condition the guy is asking 7500. It has a crack in the hood where the fan hit the underside (apparently the water pump went out on his son caused the damage) To me this sound like a good price But I really don't know about vet's. Any thing I should be looking for as I test drive this? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan Sorry for the extremely late reply.BUT I only check this news group a few times a week... BUY COSMETICS when buying a Corvette... I assume most of the readers in this newsgroup can turn a wrench and the C3 Corvette is a rather simple car..BUT you can burn money real fast when you start buying cosmetics... I own 5 Corvettes (64 72 76 79 95's) I also own a 68 SS 396 (clone but thats fine with me) Chevelle My son also owns a 68 SS (real) 396 Chevelle . my garages are filled with Chevelle parts and Corvette parts ..nothing new for a gear head who got his son hooked just as bad as the old man. I can tell you one thing Corvettes are just Chevys... But doing body work on them is more of a pain then with working with sheet metal.. As for body parts .. They are widely available but vary in quality even from the same vendors... replacing a front or rear bumper requires a hell of a lot of tweeking no matter where you get the replacement.. As for the price... ? well that all depends on the overall shape like any other car... 5K is about right for one needing a lot 12K is fine for one in great shape.. pretty big spread... The 75's thru 79's are all low HP cars BUT hell guys a SBC is still a SBC and getting my 76 (180 HP L48) to lay rubber in all 4 gears (ok it only chirps in 4th) was not a major expense... BUY COSMETICS when buying a Corvette... I said this before and I mean it... Bob Griffiths retired old fart who likes cars leaving in a hour to get an early start for this weekends Corvettes at Ocean City (Maryland) weekend... - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks for all the help guys, it turns out that this corvette looked good from the road but drove like a hay rack the paint was very poor. Looked as though all the quarters where worked on at one time or another (they had approx. 2 inch wide seam that wasn't blended very well. Needless to say I passed on this one. Thanks for your very informative feedback! Dan In a message dated 9/16/02 7:01:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Way to much, I've been asked to help restore a 76, in great condition and the best price might be 6,500. with under 10 miles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Youngblood, Skip (TK at Alcoa) Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:45 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth? That is on the high side. Look at the Corvette trader found at any local gas stop. Skip 68SCBB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth? Can any of you help me. I have a chance to purchase a 77 corvette but have little knowledge of them. (always been a chevelle guy). So, it looks to be in good to average condition the guy is asking 7500. It has a crack in the hood where the fan hit the underside (apparently the water pump went out on his son caused the damage) To me this sound like a good price But I really don't know about vet's. Any thing I should be looking for as I test drive this? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan
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may I ask where you live? I went to see a 77 corvette about7 months ago, and it was advertised at 8 grand, it was silver, and looked goregous, but handled like crap. When you would jump on it, the sides would twist, scary! it wsa the L82 option. I live in PA. Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth? Thanks for all the help guys, it turns out that this corvette looked good from the road but drove like a hay rack the paint was very poor. Looked as though all the quarters where worked on at one time or another (they had approx. 2 inch wide seam that wasn't blended very well. Needless to say I passed on this one. Thanks for your very informative feedback!DanIn a message dated 9/16/02 7:01:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Way to much, I've been asked to help restore a 76, in great condition and the best price might be 6,500. with under 10 miles. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Youngblood, Skip (TK at Alcoa)Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:45 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth?That is on the high side. Look at the Corvette trader found at any local gas stop.Skip 68SCBB -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 6:35 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth?Can any of you help me. I have a chance to purchase a 77 corvette but have little knowledge of them. (always been a chevelle guy). So, it looks to be in good to average condition the guy is asking 7500. It has a crack in the hood where the fan hit the underside (apparently the water pump went out on his son caused the damage) To me this sound like a good price But I really don't know about vet's. Any thing I should be looking for as I test drive this?Any help greatly appreciated.Thanks, Dan
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This was in dallas was white. I guess you have to check them out good before you buy.
