Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust system 69
I have been all over looking for an exhaust system for my 69SS, I have found many company including Ground Up which supplies the whole 6 piece package., but I need a system that can go on a concourse car. Anyone one know who can supply the best package out there? Thanks Joe P.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust system 69
Gardner Exhaust Systemsis the absolute best. There is no other company that even comes close for a concourse restoration. They are a bit pricey but their exhausts are exactly as original and they fit perfectly. www.gardnerexhaust.com Trooper - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust system 69 I have been all over looking for an exhaust system for my 69SS, I have found many company including Ground Up which supplies the whole 6 piece package., but I need a system that can go on a concourse car. Anyone one know who can supply the best package out there? Thanks Joe P.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust system 69
Thanks again Trooper, I will call them tomorrow Joe P.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System-Dyno Run
Title: Message
CFM and ACFM (Actual CFM) are the same. SCFM is
"Standard" CFM and assumes a specific barometric pressure, humidity, temp, etc.
It is arrived at using a math formula applied to conditions at the time of the
test.
Since "air density" is greater in colder air, a greater
amount of oxygen will be pumped into the motor at 60 degrees than at 90. The
difference is considerable enough that the takeoff weight of aircraft is
adjusted for temperature, etc.
Two-Track
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:36
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust
System-Dyno Run
Clint,
Everything you said about my engine is correct
except I did go with hydraulic roller lifters and roller rockers. My motor man
told me to set redline at 6800rpm.
I had my dyno run today, and you are right. It
did make peak powerat 6000rpm.
442hp @ 6000rpm
467fp @ 4250rpm
Just a point of interest, airflow was 720.3 scfm
@ 6250rpm, which is as high as they went. What does the "s" in front of the
cfm stand for?
Videos -
www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-setup.wmv
www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-run.wmv
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:49
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust
System
You guys have to remember that Larry's car
isn't running a hyd lifter,oval port big block but a solid lifter,forged
piston,four bolt main L78. Those things will easily rev to 7,000rpm and make
their peak power well over 6,000rpm. It can handle a higher flow exhaust. I
suggested 2.5" tailpipes because the exhaust velocity is reduced enough that
the extra expense and more noise of 3" tailpipes isn't necessary on a BBC
less than 427ci. The smaller tailpipes will help the low-end torque curve a
noticeable amount and reduce the drone.
Very few streetable 400ci small blocks will
have cylinder heads that can flow like L78 BBC's.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System-Dyno Run
Title: Message
Now that you mention it, I do remember seeing the
temp and barometric pressure listed on the dyno sheet. Thanks for your post
Craig. I learn something every day on this list.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Craig Ellis
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:10
AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust
System-Dyno Run
CFM and ACFM (Actual CFM) are the same. SCFM is
"Standard" CFM and assumes a specific barometric pressure, humidity, temp,
etc. It is arrived at using a math formula applied to conditions at the time
of the test.
Since "air density" is greater in colder air, a
greater amount of oxygen will be pumped into the motor at 60 degrees than at
90. The difference is considerable enough that the takeoff weight of aircraft
is adjusted for temperature, etc.
Two-Track
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:36
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust
System-Dyno Run
Clint,
Everything you said about my engine is correct
except I did go with hydraulic roller lifters and roller rockers. My motor
man told me to set redline at 6800rpm.
I had my dyno run today, and you are right. It
did make peak powerat 6000rpm.
442hp @ 6000rpm
467fp @ 4250rpm
Just a point of interest, airflow was 720.3
scfm @ 6250rpm, which is as high as they went. What does the "s" in front of
the cfm stand for?
Videos -
www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-setup.wmv
www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-run.wmv
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint
Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:49
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust
System
You guys have to remember that Larry's car
isn't running a hyd lifter,oval port big block but a solid lifter,forged
piston,four bolt main L78. Those things will easily rev to 7,000rpm and
make their peak power well over 6,000rpm. It can handle a higher flow
exhaust. I suggested 2.5" tailpipes because the exhaust velocity is
reduced enough that the extra expense and more noise of 3" tailpipes isn't
necessary on a BBC less than 427ci. The smaller tailpipes will help the
low-end torque curve a noticeable amount and reduce the
drone.
Very few streetable 400ci small blocks will
have cylinder heads that can flow like L78 BBC's.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
RE: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System-Dyno Run
I love dyno runs! --- Ron Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my wife was standing behind me when I was playing the videos. I explained to her it was like watching a new baby coming into the world. She shook her head and walked away... :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Shouse Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:36 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System-Dyno Run Clint, Everything you said about my engine is correct except I did go with hydraulic roller lifters and roller rockers. My motor man told me to set redline at 6800rpm. I had my dyno run today, and you are right. It did make peak power at 6000rpm. 442hp @ 6000rpm 467fp @ 4250rpm Just a point of interest, airflow was 720.3 scfm @ 6250rpm, which is as high as they went. What does the s in front of the cfm stand for? Videos - www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-setup.wmv www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-run.wmv Larry - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System You guys have to remember that Larry's car isn't running a hyd lifter,oval port big block but a solid lifter,forged piston,four bolt main L78. Those things will easily rev to 7,000rpm and make their peak power well over 6,000rpm. It can handle a higher flow exhaust. I suggested 2.5 tailpipes because the exhaust velocity is reduced enough that the extra expense and more noise of 3 tailpipes isn't necessary on a BBC less than 427ci. The smaller tailpipes will help the low-end torque curve a noticeable amount and reduce the drone. Very few streetable 400ci small blocks will have cylinder heads that can flow like L78 BBC's. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
Hi Larry, On my chevelle with a SBC and headers I had the flowmaster setup, this due to a suggestion I received on this list a while ago. I was very happy with it but this time around I'll go with a 3stainless setup with four borla mufflers due to my dream of allot of horsepower in my next engine. I dont know about the size but I would spend the extra cash on stainless steel right away André Hi Larry, IMO, you should go with a 3 exhaust with an X crossover along with the mufflers of your choice. I like Spin Tech, they're a bit loud at full song but have a unique sound that you won't hear as often as the bellybutton Flowmasters. Dynomax Ultraflows are nice too if you want something a little more subtle (I used to have them on my Vette but wanted it louder for some reason). I'm actually interested in hearing the new mufflers from Edelbrock. The cutaway looks like a cross between Spin Tech and Flowmaster. Another place you might look is a company called Pypes, http://www.pypesexhaust.com/ they even have some sound clips online. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry Shouse Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:07 PM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8 primaries and 3 collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5 system or a 3 system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
Thanks to everyone for your input. I spent a few hours going to all suggested websites, trying to learn what I can. Personal experience based input is very important to me. It looks like we are pretty evenly split between 2.5 and 3 inch exhaust systems. I've heard (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that having too much pipe could be detrimental to your torque numbers, because you need a certain amount of back pressure to scavenge (pull) the exhaust out... I guess the real question then becomes does my 396 with a Performer RPM Airgap intake and L78 heads redlining at 6500 - 6800 rpm move enough air to warrant 3 inch pipes. Is there a formula out there to figure that kind of thing out? Of course I'm willing to pay for the 3 inch systemif it sounds better and has no detrimental effect on my numbers grin I found Clint's comments interesting, using 2" head pipes and reducing down to 2.5" after the muffler... Thanks for putting up with my persistent stream of questions here. As I dump all available dollars into this project while dodging my wife's broom, I want to keep my future regrets to a minimum. Thanks, Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8" primaries and 3" collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5" system or a 3" system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
Sorry, I misquoted Clint. I meant to say 3" head pipe and 2.5" after the mufflers... Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System Thanks to everyone for your input. I spent a few hours going to all suggested websites, trying to learn what I can. Personal experience based input is very important to me. It looks like we are pretty evenly split between 2.5 and 3 inch exhaust systems. I've heard (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that having too much pipe could be detrimental to your torque numbers, because you need a certain amount of back pressure to scavenge (pull) the exhaust out... I guess the real question then becomes does my 396 with a Performer RPM Airgap intake and L78 heads redlining at 6500 - 6800 rpm move enough air to warrant 3 inch pipes. Is there a formula out there to figure that kind of thing out? Of course I'm willing to pay for the 3 inch systemif it sounds better and has no detrimental effect on my numbers grin I found Clint's comments interesting, using 2" head pipes and reducing down to 2.5" after the muffler... Thanks for putting up with my persistent stream of questions here. As I dump all available dollars into this project while dodging my wife's broom, I want to keep my future regrets to a minimum. Thanks, Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8" primaries and 3" collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5" system or a 3" system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
Just my two cents but the old axiom "you drive torque and race horsepower" is true. Unless you actually bet folding money on street races or a drag strip regular, I'd choose the options that produce torque. I've got a BBC 402 that's .060 over - that's only 413 CI. Not to offend anyone out there with a BBC but that is a smallish motor and does not justify 3" exhaust or 2" headers. All that stuff seems pretty cool but even the calculations argue against those sizes. I know that my motor will spin to 6500 but rare will be the day that it does. I routinely shift at 5500 and once in a blue moon spool it out to 6000. 1 and 3/4 headers and 2.5 exhaust produce the ideal torque and HP for a .550 lift cam. Notehow many400+ CI small blocks with 1 and 5/8 headers and 2" exhaust are written up in HotRod and other mags. This subject has been studied for years and every time the results are the same. Once in a while one of the big motor builders will "reveal" that they put a 1000 CFM Dominator on a SBC with an RV cam and it ran like a scalded cat. You know as well as I do thatsomebody is zommin' somebody.I don't know about you, but every engine builder I've ever known would BS their mother if it won them more business or won races. If a motor combination sounds too good to be true...it probably is. Stick to the calculations and run the recommendations and you won't regret it. Speaking from experience - the only "mistake" I made is to put a 770 CFM Holley Street Avenger onmy motor.It runs perfect but I am sure that a 670 CFM would have been the better choice. That motor just can not pump that much air. It's like octane - any more than is needed to eliminate preignition is wasted - and more carb volume and exhaust volume than needed to balance the pumping action of the motor is detrimental to performance. I was just another one of those guys that didn't want to stand around the car show and tell people "it's a 600 CFM Holley Wimpalator". But the fact is, the calculator said, as I recall, my engine should have a 600 - I just couldn't buy one. Just my opinion. - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System Thanks to everyone for your input. I spent a few hours going to all suggested websites, trying to learn what I can. Personal experience based input is very important to me. It looks like we are pretty evenly split between 2.5 and 3 inch exhaust systems. I've heard (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that having too much pipe could be detrimental to your torque numbers, because you need a certain amount of back pressure to scavenge (pull) the exhaust out... I guess the real question then becomes does my 396 with a Performer RPM Airgap intake and L78 heads redlining at 6500 - 6800 rpm move enough air to warrant 3 inch pipes. Is there a formula out there to figure that kind of thing out? Of course I'm willing to pay for the 3 inch systemif it sounds better and has no detrimental effect on my numbers grin I found Clint's comments interesting, using 2" head pipes and reducing down to 2.5" after the muffler... Thanks for putting up with my persistent stream of questions here. As I dump all available dollars into this project while dodging my wife's broom, I want to keep my future regrets to a minimum. Thanks, Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8" primaries and 3" collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5" system or a 3" system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
Hey Larry, Both 2.5 and 3 will get the job done. I would look at quality, fit, and muffler sound that you like. I ran 11's with a 2.5 exhaust and summit cheapy turbo mufflers and ran 10's with 4 flowmaster loud pipes! The current Borla system fits in all the factory mounting locations and is made of SS. I picked it up off the Summit clearance counter for under $300. I like the flowmaster sound a little better than the borla but price, fit, and quality won out. Here are a few pics of the system http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/BORLA.htm Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:06 pm Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8 primaries and 3 collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5 system or a 3 system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
Right on Craig, Many mags have put the bigger/better idea out there. You have to have 4.10/4.11's big carbs and exhaust to make powerNo not for the street/strip guys. Look at your overall package and spend from there. Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: Craig Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:20 am Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System Just my two cents but the old axiom you drive torque and race horsepower is true. Unless you actually bet folding money on street races or a drag strip regular, I'd choose the options that produce torque. I've got a BBC 402 that's .060 over - that's only 413 CI. Not to offend anyone out there with a BBC but that is a smallish motor and does not justify 3 exhaust or 2 headers. All that stuff seems pretty cool but even the calculations argue against those sizes. I know that my motor will spin to 6500 but rare will b0e the day that it does. I routinely shift at 5500 and once in a blue moon spool it out to 6000. 1 and 3/4 headers and 2.5 exhaust produce the ideal torque and HP for a .550 lift cam. Note how many 400+ CI small blocks with 1 and 5/8 headers and 2 exhaust are written up in HotRod and other mags. This subject has been studied for years and every time the results are the same. Once in a while one of the big motor builders will reveal that they put a 1000 CFM Dominator on a SBC with an RV cam and it ran like a scalded cat. You know as well as I do that somebody is zommin' somebody. I don't know about you, but every engine builder I've ever known would BS their mother if it won them more business or won races. If a motor combination sounds too good to be true...it probably is. Stick to the calculations and run the recommendations and you won't regret it. Speaking from experience - the only mistake I made is to put a 770 CFM Holley Street Avenger on my motor. It runs perfect but I am sure that a 670 CFM would have been the better choice. That motor just can not pump that much air. It's like octane - any more than is needed to eliminate preignition is wasted - and more carb volume and exhaust volume than needed to balance the pumping action of the motor is detrimental to performance. I was just another one of those guys that didn't want to stand around the car show and tell people it's a 600 CFM Holley Wimpalator. But the fact is, the calculator said, as I recall, my engine should have a 600 - I just couldn't buy one. Just my opinion. - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System Thanks to everyone for your input. I spent a few hours going to all suggested websites, trying to learn what I can. Personal experience based input is very important to me. It looks like we are pretty evenly split between 2.5 and 3 inch exhaust systems. I've heard (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that having too much pipe could be detrimental to your torque numbers, because you need a certain amount of back pressure to scavenge (pull) the exhaust out... I guess the real question then becomes does my 396 with a Performer RPM Airgap intake and L78 heads redlining at 6500 - 6800 rpm move enough air to warrant 3 inch pipes. Is there a formula out there to figure that kind of thing out? Of course I'm willing to pay for the 3 inch system if it sounds better and has no detrimental effect on my numbers grin I found Clint's comments interesting, using 2 head pipes and reducing down to 2.5 after the muffler... Thanks for putting up with my persistent stream of questions here. As I dump all available dollars into this project while dodging my wife's broom, I want to keep my future regrets to a minimum. Thanks, Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8 primaries and 3 collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5 system or a 3 system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
RE: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
Title: Message I know that a well built header will use the exhaust from one cylinder to scavenge the others, but I'm not sure about how the exhaust system itself can or will do that, I thought that once past the collector it was only a matter of getting rid of the exhaust. there was an article in a magazine about an instrument measurng exhaust backpressure and as I remember it it was all a matter the lowest pressure possible. I dont think I'd use a step down in tube size, the entire system wont flow more than the smallest tube anyway. Maybe Clint tought of that because of the lower restriction restriction of the bigger muffler. Have FunAndré -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry ShouseSent: 29. november 2005 14:49To: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System Thanks to everyone for your input. I spent a few hours going to all suggested websites, trying to learn what I can. Personal experience based input is very important to me. It looks like we are pretty evenly split between 2.5 and 3 inch exhaust systems. I've heard (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that having too much pipe could be detrimental to your torque numbers, because you need a certain amount of back pressure to scavenge (pull) the exhaust out... I guess the real question then becomes does my 396 with a Performer RPM Airgap intake and L78 heads redlining at 6500 - 6800 rpm move enough air to warrant 3 inch pipes. Is there a formula out there to figure that kind of thing out? Of course I'm willing to pay for the 3 inch systemif it sounds better and has no detrimental effect on my numbers grin I found Clint's comments interesting, using 2" head pipes and reducing down to 2.5" after the muffler... Thanks for putting up with my persistent stream of questions here. As I dump all available dollars into this project while dodging my wife's broom, I want to keep my future regrets to a minimum. Thanks, Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8" primaries and 3" collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5" system or a 3" system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
Title: Message You guys have to remember that Larry's car isn't running a hyd lifter,oval port big block but a solid lifter,forged piston,four bolt main L78. Those things will easily rev to 7,000rpm and make their peak power well over 6,000rpm. It can handle a higher flow exhaust. I suggested 2.5" tailpipes because the exhaust velocity is reduced enough that the extra expense and more noise of 3" tailpipes isn't necessary on a BBC less than 427ci. The smaller tailpipes will help the low-end torque curve a noticeable amount and reduce the drone. Very few streetable 400ci small blocks will have cylinder heads that can flow like L78 BBC's. Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System-Dyno Run
Title: Message Clint, Everything you said about my engine is correct except I did go with hydraulic roller lifters and roller rockers. My motor man told me to set redline at 6800rpm. I had my dyno run today, and you are right. It did make peak powerat 6000rpm. 442hp @ 6000rpm 467fp @ 4250rpm Just a point of interest, airflow was 720.3 scfm @ 6250rpm, which is as high as they went. What does the "s" in front of the cfm stand for? Videos - www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-setup.wmv www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-run.wmv Larry - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System You guys have to remember that Larry's car isn't running a hyd lifter,oval port big block but a solid lifter,forged piston,four bolt main L78. Those things will easily rev to 7,000rpm and make their peak power well over 6,000rpm. It can handle a higher flow exhaust. I suggested 2.5" tailpipes because the exhaust velocity is reduced enough that the extra expense and more noise of 3" tailpipes isn't necessary on a BBC less than 427ci. The smaller tailpipes will help the low-end torque curve a noticeable amount and reduce the drone. Very few streetable 400ci small blocks will have cylinder heads that can flow like L78 BBC's. Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
RE: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System-Dyno Run
Title: Message my wife was standing behind me when I was playing the videos. I explained to her it was like watching a new baby coming into the world. She shook her head and walked away... :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry ShouseSent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:36 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System-Dyno Run Clint, Everything you said about my engine is correct except I did go with hydraulic roller lifters and roller rockers. My motor man told me to set redline at 6800rpm. I had my dyno run today, and you are right. It did make peak powerat 6000rpm. 442hp @ 6000rpm 467fp @ 4250rpm Just a point of interest, airflow was 720.3 scfm @ 6250rpm, which is as high as they went. What does the "s" in front of the cfm stand for? Videos - www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-setup.wmv www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-run.wmv Larry - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System You guys have to remember that Larry's car isn't running a hyd lifter,oval port big block but a solid lifter,forged piston,four bolt main L78. Those things will easily rev to 7,000rpm and make their peak power well over 6,000rpm. It can handle a higher flow exhaust. I suggested 2.5" tailpipes because the exhaust velocity is reduced enough that the extra expense and more noise of 3" tailpipes isn't necessary on a BBC less than 427ci. The smaller tailpipes will help the low-end torque curve a noticeable amount and reduce the drone. Very few streetable 400ci small blocks will have cylinder heads that can flow like L78 BBC's. Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System-Dyno Run
Title: Message
That is so true Ron! When my motor man called and
said "it's time", I drove to his shop like a madman! I walked in with a digital
camera and video camera with a big smile on my face. I haven't built an engine
since the mid 70's. Although I double-checked everything, there is always that
little doubt until that engine fires up. Although I was hoping for a bit more
power, I'm sure it will be plenty for my purpose... and I just love that
lope...
Larry Shouse
- Original Message -
From:
Ron
Sparks
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:35
PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust
System-Dyno Run
my wife was standing behind me when I was playing the videos. I
explained to her it was like watching a new baby coming into the world. She
shook her head and walked away... :-)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry
ShouseSent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:36 PMTo: The
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust
System-Dyno Run
Clint,
Everything you said about my engine is correct
except I did go with hydraulic roller lifters and roller rockers. My motor man
told me to set redline at 6800rpm.
I had my dyno run today, and you are right. It
did make peak powerat 6000rpm.
442hp @ 6000rpm
467fp @ 4250rpm
Just a point of interest, airflow was 720.3 scfm
@ 6250rpm, which is as high as they went. What does the "s" in front of the
cfm stand for?
Videos -
www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-setup.wmv
www.fuglybrothers.com/videos/dyno-run.wmv
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:49
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust
System
You guys have to remember that Larry's car
isn't running a hyd lifter,oval port big block but a solid lifter,forged
piston,four bolt main L78. Those things will easily rev to 7,000rpm and make
their peak power well over 6,000rpm. It can handle a higher flow exhaust. I
suggested 2.5" tailpipes because the exhaust velocity is reduced enough that
the extra expense and more noise of 3" tailpipes isn't necessary on a BBC
less than 427ci. The smaller tailpipes will help the low-end torque curve a
noticeable amount and reduce the drone.
Very few streetable 400ci small blocks will
have cylinder heads that can flow like L78 BBC's.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
I would go w/2.5",,better w/more backpressure,,,AND DEFINATLY go with the BEST,,FLOWMASTERS - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8" primaries and 3" collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5" system or a 3" system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
RE: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
Hi Larry, IMO, you should go with a 3" exhaust with an X crossover along with the mufflers of your choice. I like Spin Tech, they're a bit loud at full song but have a unique sound that you won't hear as often as the bellybutton Flowmasters. Dynomax Ultraflows are nice too if you want something a little more subtle (I used to have them on my Vette but wanted it louder for some reason). I'm actually interested in hearing the new mufflers from Edelbrock. The cutaway looks like a cross between Spin Tech and Flowmaster. Another place you might look is a company called Pypes, http://www.pypesexhaust.com/they even have some sound clips online. Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Larry ShouseSent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:07 PMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8" primaries and 3" collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5" system or a 3" system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
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Call Torque Tech and they will custom make you an exhaust system that will fit and clamp together for your particular vehicle-go with 2.5 as already suggested.. I prefer Dynomax mufflers for several reasons, just my preference. D.R. Jones James Strunk wrote: I would go w/2.5,,better w/more backpressure,,,AND DEFINATLY go with the BEST,,FLOWMASTERS - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8 primaries and 3 collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5 system or a 3 system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
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Definately 3". With a big block it is the way to go. Deep throaty sound. Yes there are many suppliers out there. I do like Herbs spin techs, but they are loud. I am running Flowmasters 3" system on my Tempest(421) and it does sound good. Using their 30 series mufflers. For under six bills you cannot go wrong. Mike - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8" primaries and 3" collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5" system or a 3" system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005
RE: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System
I have a Flowmaster system and while it might not be the best possible sounding system, and certainly an X-pipe is a better design than an H-pipe, the kit is relatively inexpensive and super-easy to install. I also have a SB so it's tough to say how my opinion of the sound might be changed by hearing the same system on a BB. In terms of actual performance comparisons, again I don't exactly have a high performance engine. I suppose 2.5 is enough for a SB. John Nasta
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I've got a headers and a Dr. Gas x-pipe with Flowmaster 40s and it is the best sounding BBC I have ever heard, bar none. The sound at idle with a .550 cam turns the head of anybody who has any kind of love for these cars, period. It is music. Craig E. - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System I have a Flowmaster system and while it might not be the best possible sounding system, and certainly an X-pipe is a better design than an H-pipe, the kit is relatively inexpensive and super-easy to install. I also have a SB so it's tough to say how my opinion of the sound might be changed by hearing the same system on a BB. In terms of actual performance comparisons, again I don't exactly have a high performance engine. I suppose 2.5 is enough for a SB. John Nasta
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A healthy L78 can flow a lot of air. My suggestions for decent street manners would be 3" headpipes to the mufflers,then full 2.5" tailpipes. All mandrel bent,of course,,no compression bends. If the car will be very low,keep that in mind when choosing mufflers. Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse It's time to buy me an exhaust system. The system will go on a fairly healthy normally aspirated 396 running L78 heads and Sanderson intermediate headers with 1 7/8" primaries and 3" collectors. Those of you in the know, please help me decide whether I should go with a 2.5" system or a 3" system. Also, brand suggestions would be great. Thanks, Larry Shouse
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I TOTALLY AGREE,,I had a 70 chevelle SS for 30 yrs.before I finally sold it,,comp. cam 540,,w/FLOWMASTERS,,,just an awsome sounding car. - Original Message - From: Craig Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System I've got a headers and a Dr. Gas x-pipe with Flowmaster 40s and it is the best sounding BBC I have ever heard, bar none. The sound at idle with a .550 cam turns the head of anybody who has any kind of love for these cars, period. It is music. Craig E. - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System I have a Flowmaster system and while it might not be the best possible sounding system, and certainly an X-pipe is a better design than an H-pipe, the kit is relatively inexpensive and super-easy to install. I also have a SB so it's tough to say how my opinion of the sound might be changed by hearing the same system on a BB. In terms of actual performance comparisons, again I don't exactly have a high performance engine. I suppose 2.5 is enough for a SB. John Nasta
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5
Thanks Clint..that procharger hums...only 10lbs of boost to run that fast. Gotta love BBC's. Ran high 10's with a pretty much stock 396/350HP motor and the procharger. Sold the blower setupTurbo will be added next winter Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 4, 2005 8:38 pm Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 10.30's at 132mph? YOWZA! Nice car,Walt. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net I do like the flowmaster sound but my 4 side exit was attracted too many cops. I switched to a stainless Borla kit from headers to bumper http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/BORLA.htm The kit fit really nice using factory mounting locations. Sound is good pretty quite at idle. Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5
Thanks Matt, Do you have any Pics of your project? Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: Matt Wettig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 4, 2005 8:26 am Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 Beautiful car Walt. I am in the process of building a 1970 myself. Matt - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Cc: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 I do like the flowmaster sound but my 4 side exit was attracted too many cops. I switched to a stainless Borla kit from headers to bumper http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/BORLA.htm The kit fit really nice using factory mounting locations. Sound is good pretty quite at idle. Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 4, 2005 7:29 am Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 I am going to put a new exhaust system on my '70 LS5 and am considering Flowmasters series 30 or a system by Pypes Performance Exhaust. Anybody have any experience with the Pypes Performance company? Anybody have any other thoughts for a powerful sounding system that won't drive you nuts inside while crusing? I am open to all input. Thanks, Jerry Wells ACES 5923 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.5.2 - Release Date: 06/03/2005
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5
Not much to look at right now. Frame is out from under it and getting ready to paint the frame. Motor and transmission are built for it. I think a 454 bored 30 over should move it down the road ok. It has good heads on it with a 580 lift cam. Matt - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 Thanks Matt, Do you have any Pics of your project? Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: Matt Wettig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 4, 2005 8:26 am Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 Beautiful car Walt. I am in the process of building a 1970 myself. Matt - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Cc: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 I do like the flowmaster sound but my 4 side exit was attracted too many cops. I switched to a stainless Borla kit from headers to bumper http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/BORLA.htm The kit fit really nice using factory mounting locations. Sound is good pretty quite at idle. Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 4, 2005 7:29 am Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 I am going to put a new exhaust system on my '70 LS5 and am considering Flowmasters series 30 or a system by Pypes Performance Exhaust. Anybody have any experience with the Pypes Performance company? Anybody have any other thoughts for a powerful sounding system that won't drive you nuts inside while crusing? I am open to all input. Thanks, Jerry Wells ACES 5923 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.5.2 - Release Date: 06/03/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.4 - Release Date: 06/06/2005
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5
Has anybody heard of or used these guys? http://www.grabthepower.com/ There is a local muffler shop that has given me a price of $300 for a 2 1/2" dual system on my big block V-6 pick up and I'm wanting a little feedback from users. http://stovebolt.com/gallery/pruett_richard_1967.htm Also, I'm interested in comments as to where to bring out the pipes. Turn down underneath? Straight out the back? Out the side; behind the rearwheels or before? I'm not looking for originally here; original single2" pipe came out behind driver side rear wheel.What I want to achieve is to allow this oldengine to breath as bestas she can. I recently opened up the air flow on this big boy by installing an oversized air filter and raising the breather cover 1/2"; now bringing in air all around rather than sucking it through the 1 1/2" snorkel but keeping the original look. That made a huge difference!! Any and all thoughts are welcome. Rich - Original Message - From: jason mcentee To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 Borla is a great exhaust system. A million mile warranty exaust system. That shows they're confidence in the product. I put a Borla system on my 95 GMC Sonoma and it was great ! It made the 6 Cylinder sound like an 8 with no excessive noise. Its throaty, but its what we ( and others) Americans love. The extra Ponies were helpful in blasting the 5.0's that Ford made famous. Although it wasnt only the exhaust system, it definately didnt hurt the performance. By the way, I do not work for Borla, only a fan. Jay\ 1995 GMC Sonoma 1971 Chevy Malibu ( in restoring stages) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like the flowmaster sound but my 4" side exit was attracted too many cops. I switched to a stainless Borla kit from headers to bumper http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/BORLA.htm The kit fit really nice using factory mounting locations. Sound is good pretty quite at idle.Walthttp://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm- Original Message -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Saturday, June 4, 2005 7:29 amSubject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 I am going to put a new exhaust system on my '70 LS5 and am considering Flowmasters series 30 or a system by Pypes Performance Exhaust. Anybody have any experience with the Pypes Performance company? Anybody have any other thoughts for a powerful sounding system that won't drive you nuts inside while crusing? I am open to all input. Thanks, Jerry Wells ACES 5923 __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5
I do like the flowmaster sound but my 4 side exit was attracted too many cops. I switched to a stainless Borla kit from headers to bumper http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/BORLA.htm The kit fit really nice using factory mounting locations. Sound is good pretty quite at idle. Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 4, 2005 7:29 am Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 I am going to put a new exhaust system on my '70 LS5 and am considering Flowmasters series 30 or a system by Pypes Performance Exhaust. Anybody have any experience with the Pypes Performance company? Anybody have any other thoughts for a powerful sounding system that won't drive you nuts inside while crusing? I am open to all input. Thanks, Jerry Wells ACES 5923
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Beautiful car Walt. I am in the process of building a 1970 myself. Matt - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Cc: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 I do like the flowmaster sound but my 4 side exit was attracted too many cops. I switched to a stainless Borla kit from headers to bumper http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/BORLA.htm The kit fit really nice using factory mounting locations. Sound is good pretty quite at idle. Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 4, 2005 7:29 am Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 I am going to put a new exhaust system on my '70 LS5 and am considering Flowmasters series 30 or a system by Pypes Performance Exhaust. Anybody have any experience with the Pypes Performance company? Anybody have any other thoughts for a powerful sounding system that won't drive you nuts inside while crusing? I am open to all input. Thanks, Jerry Wells ACES 5923 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.5.2 - Release Date: 06/03/2005
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-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] any experience with the Pypes Performance company? Check the forums/boards at performanceyears.com for threads relating to PYPES, and also ask about the availability of instructions, support, etc. before making a purchase. I bought one of the early PYPES systems a couple of years ago and it came with no instructions, just a photo that was barely helpful. And the website kept saying that the online instructions were coming soon but when I checked back last year they still weren't up. I have the system on my car but have never been truly happy with it; I had to do quite a lot of modifying to get it to fit and it still hangs too low for my taste (Trans Am, which doesn't have much ground clearance to begin with). In fact, I'm planning on working on it today in case I hook up with the Power Tour tomorrow... Hopefully PYPES' products and service have improved since 2003 but I'd do some serious research before sending them any money, based on what I went through. You can also check the threads at classicalpontiac.com (Performance Years started out as strictly Pontiac) for some opinions. Good luck! Brad O.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5
Borla is a great exhaust system. A million mile warranty exaust system. That shows they're confidence in the product. I put a Borla system on my 95 GMC Sonoma and it was great ! It made the 6 Cylinder sound like an 8 with no excessive noise. Its throaty, but its what we ( and others) Americans love. The extra Ponies were helpful in blasting the 5.0's that Ford made famous. Although it wasnt only the exhaust system, it definately didnt hurt the performance. By the way, I do not work for Borla, only a fan. Jay\ 1995 GMC Sonoma 1971 Chevy Malibu ( in restoring stages) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like the flowmaster sound but my 4" side exit was attracted too many cops. I switched to a stainless Borla kit from headers to bumper http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/BORLA.htm The kit fit really nice using factory mounting locations. Sound is good pretty quite at idle.Walthttp://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm- Original Message -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Saturday, June 4, 2005 7:29 amSubject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 I am going to put a new exhaust system on my '70 LS5 and am considering Flowmasters series 30 or a system by Pypes Performance Exhaust. Anybody have any experience with the Pypes Performance company? Anybody have any other thoughts for a powerful sounding system that won't drive you nuts inside while crusing? I am open to all input. Thanks, Jerry Wells ACES 5923 __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Here's my previous post about Pypes: I bought my 3" exhaust from pypes exhaust, and it is awesome.http://www.pypesexhaust.com/I mocked up the kit myself, and easily could have put it on if I would havehad a lift. The exhaust over the rear axle was a PITA, so I brought it tothe muffler shop, and they put it on cheap. They said it was the best kitthey had ever put in. I got the X pipe with the cut outs so that I can getthat race sound when I want (I plan on putting the electric cutouts on thecar soon), but went with the pypes mufflers because the 502 has a big voice,and I wanted to be somewhat quiet when idling through the neighborhood. Itstill sounds great though, and has a very deep/mean bass sound when idling.LaterCharleswww.65ss.com P.S. I had nothing but great stuff from them. When I called with questions they took the time, and helped me, and the kit was almost perfect fit. One tail pipe was slightly cocked (1/2", probably wouldn't have noticed) but the muffler shop fixed it. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 6:29 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5 I am going to put a new exhaust system on my '70 LS5 and am considering Flowmasters series 30 or a system by Pypes Performance Exhaust. Anybody have any experience with the Pypes Performance company? Anybody have any other thoughts for a powerful sounding system that won't drive you nuts inside while crusing? I am open to all input. Thanks, Jerry Wells ACES 5923
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5
I just installed a new exhaust system on my 69 El Camino w/350 SBCand used 2.5" 3"aluminized tubing with Flowmaster series 40 Delta Flows. One word describes it: loud. The newer Pypes stuff is pretty good. Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am going to put a new exhaust system on my '70 LS5 and am considering Flowmasters series 30 or a system by Pypes Performance Exhaust. Anybody have any experience with the Pypes Performance company? Anybody have any other thoughts for a powerful sounding system that won't drive you nuts inside while crusing? I am open to all input. Thanks, Jerry Wells ACES 5923
Re: [Chevelle-list] Exhaust System - LS 5
10.30's at 132mph? YOWZA! Nice car,Walt. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net I do like the flowmaster sound but my 4 side exit was attracted too many cops. I switched to a stainless Borla kit from headers to bumper http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/BORLA.htm The kit fit really nice using factory mounting locations. Sound is good pretty quite at idle. Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm
