test-do not open [7:35599]

2002-02-16 Thread jhun de leon

TEST




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test-do not open [7:35598]

2002-02-16 Thread jhun de leon

test




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DRAM and FLASH question [7:35600]

2002-02-16 Thread Ronnie

Hi all,

I was wondering if somebody good tell me the secret on Kingston memory and
flash in Cisco Routers.

Where is a good and not so expensive (I'm Dutch ..   :-)) site for
selling these items ?


Thanks in advanced ...


Cheers Ronald




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Re: Secondary ip address and ip helper-address [7:35601]

2002-02-16 Thread GAHellinger

Make sure your Microcrap server is using a superscope to encompass both your
DHCP scopes.


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> Team,
> I have the following problem:
>
> Our network has 10 sites, I am in the process of readdressing current
> network. I have setup secondary ip address on every site, At the present
> time I am setting up a wk2000 dhcp/win server in one site. The problem is
> that I am not able to obtain ip address from the DHCP server via the WAN,
it
> works fine in the site where it is locate. The layout is the following:
>
> Hub site
>
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 192.168.13.1 255.255.255.0 secondary
>  ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
>  ip helper-address 192.168.12.17
>  ip directed-broadcast
>  no cdp enable
>
> interface Serial0
>  no ip address
>  ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  frame-relay lmi-type ansi
>
> interface Serial0.3 point-to-point
>  description Spoke site
>  bandwidth 384
>  ip unnumbered Ethernet0
>  ip helper-address 192.168.12.17
>  ip directed-broadcast
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 26
>
> Spoke site
>
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 192.168.12.1 255.255.255.0 secondary
>  ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
>
> interface Serial0
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
>  no fair-queue
>  frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> interface Serial0.1 point-to-point
>  description connection to Hub
>  ip unnumbered Ethernet0
>  bandwidth 384
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 16
> !
>
> The ip address of the DHCP sever is 192.168.12.17
>
> Be aware that I have not problem pinging to the DHCP server from the Hub
> site.
>
> Team, what I am doing wrong here...HELP
>
>
> Thanks (nothing can replace experiencewo)
>
>
> JB




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Re: Secondary ip address and ip helper-address [7:35539]

2002-02-16 Thread bergenpeak

Just a clarification.  It is possible to have multiple subnets on
an interface and configure the DHCP server to assign IPs to any of
these scopes.  No router address flip-flopping or other machinations are
required or needed.

As has been posted, the primary IP address on the interface is *usually*
(see
details below) the giaddr placed into the DHCP packet by the relay agent
(router).
Lets assume that the interface doing the IP helpering has four subnets:
P (the
primary) and S1, S2, and S3.

On any reasonable DHCP server, one can configure the secondary subnets
to
be "secondaries" to the primary in the DHCP config.   So when one
configures their
DHCP server, they define the primary subnet information for P, and then
define the information for S1, S2, and S3.  One then ties these all
together
by making S1 a "secondary" of P on the DHCP server.  Ditto for S2 and
S3.  The manner in which one makes S1, S2, and S3 secondaries is DHCP
server dependent.  If you have CNR and want to make S1 a secondary to P
do the following:

1) Define the scope information for P, S1, S2, and S3.  This would
entail 
defining the range of address to hand out for each scope, the policy
(DHCP
attributes, selection tags, etc.)
2) Using the GUI, select the S1 subnet, then "properties" and then the
"advanced" tab.  Half way down, there a selection box to make this scope
a secondary.  Select this box, and when you do this, you can then select
the primary for this scope.  Select P.  Note, this can also be done
using
the CLI.  I believe the attribute name is "primary-scope" (or something
close).
Using the CLI, for scope S1, set its "primary-scope" attribute to the
scope
name you defined for subnet P.

Once you;ve done this, when a packet arrives at the DHCP server with a
giaddr of
P, the DHCP server now knows that P and S1, S2, and S3 are all related. 
The DHCP
server uses this, and any configurations the operator has provided
to help select the appropriate scope (subnet) and thus IP for this
device.

Doing the above is very common practice in the cable industry.  On any
CMTS cable
inteface, cable companies will have customer IPs subnets (for PCs) and
subnets
for cable modems.   CPEs will be assigned globally routeable addresses
(net24,
net12, etc). and the cable modems will be assigned net10 addresses.  The
structure 
define above is used-- one of these subnets will be the primary on the
CMTS
interface and the rest will be secondaries.  All are tied together on
the DHCP
server via the "priamry-secondary" logic described above.  Cable
operators
configure the DHCP server logic to identify a DHCP request from a modem
and
map it to one of the subnet(s) on the interface created for modems. 
Ditto for
PCs.

Note, above I indicated that the primary address is *usually* the
giaddr.
Two caveats to this:

* Cisco changed how the relay helpering works in some IOS revs-- in some
11.x
or 12.x revs, the giaddr can cycle through all gateway addresses
assigned on the
helpering interface.  That is, when a packet gets helpered, the router
will initially
insert the P address as the giaddr.  If the DHCP server does not
respond, and
the router has helpered 3-4 DISCOVERs on behalf of a source, the 5-8th
DHCP DISCOVER
packets will get helpered using a giaddr of S1.  This repeats 3-4 times,
and if no
DHCP response is received, S2 is used as the next giaddr.  Note, the
router maintains
the state for each source so a new device will get helpered initially
with P as the
giaddr.  (I don't recall when cisco enabled this cycling feature to be
the defualt
behavior.  I believe they changed the default behavior back to only
using "P"
as the giaddr (I don't recall the IOS rev).   However, I believe they've
added a
new know so that one can enable this "cycling" "feature" in current IOS
revs.

* On cable infrastructure gear (CMTSs), there are extra knobs to
customize what
value is inserted into the giaddr.  One can configure the CMTS to always
use
the "P" address as the giaddr or to perform the cycling (described
above).










 


Michael Williams wrote:
> 
> Plus, upon re-reading your post, I don't see an IP helper setup on the eth0
> interface on the spoke router just like you have on the hub router.  You
> need to add that.
> 
> The point of my previous post was to highlight the fact that you need to
> make sure that the primary IP on the eth0 on the spoke router be in the
same
> subnet with the IPs you want to hand out via DHCP.  AFAIK, it's not
possible
> to service multiple subnets simultaneously on a single interface via
> IP-Helper.  (i.e. I don't think it's possible service any secondary IP
> subnets on eth0 at the spoke site because the IP-Helper uses the primary
> eth0 IP as the source address for the DHCP directed request)
> 
> Mike W.




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2610 with VIC BRI S/T TE... [7:35604]

2002-02-16 Thread murat emel

Hi everybody;I configured a 2610 router with VIC-BRI S/T TE and NM-2V
voice module for VoIP applications.The router runs with IOS
c2600-is-mz.120-7.XK1. But I could not achived to make voice call with
remote site. Actually when I dial my local number I get too high dial
tone and could not dial remote site, vice-versa...The configuration is
like below... !
interface BRI1/0
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 isdn incoming-voice voice
 isdn sending-complete
 isdn static-tei 0
!voice-port 1/0/0
!
voice-port 1/0/1
!
dial-peer voice 1 pots
 destination-pattern 201
 port 1/0/0
 prefix 0
!
dial-peer voice 2 pots
 destination-pattern 202
 port 1/0/1
!
dial-peer voice 10 voip
 destination-pattern 101
 session target ipv4:X.X.X.X! Thanks alot...Murat EMEL



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The proxy problem with pix 525? [7:35603]

2002-02-16 Thread cage

R--FW--DMZ
   |
  Inside
   |
   Proxy
One proxy is connected to the inside switch connecting to the FW, but
internal users are slow to the outside,but the DMZ users are good.why? I
think something wrong with the proxy configuration!
The config is follwing:


sh conf
: Saved
:
PIX Version 6.0(1)
nameif ethernet0 outside security0
nameif ethernet1 inside security100
nameif ethernet2 dmz security50
nameif ethernet3 intf3 security15
nameif ethernet4 intf4 security20
enable password 8Ry2YjIyt7RRXU24 encrypted
passwd 2KFQnbNIdI.2KYOU encrypted
hostname pixfirewall
fixup protocol ftp 21
fixup protocol http 80
fixup protocol h323 1720
fixup protocol rsh 514
fixup protocol smtp 25
fixup protocol sqlnet 1521
fixup protocol sip 5060
fixup protocol skinny 2000
names
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 202.99.33.66 eq domain
access-list 101 permit udp any host 202.99.33.66 eq domain
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 202.99.33.67 eq domain
access-list 101 permit udp any host 202.99.33.67 eq domain


access-list 101 permit tcp any host 202.99.33.69 eq smtp
pager lines 24
interface ethernet0 auto
interface ethernet1 auto
interface ethernet2 auto
interface ethernet3 auto shutdown
interface ethernet4 auto shutdown
mtu outside 1500
mtu inside 1500
mtu dmz 1500
mtu intf3 1500
mtu intf4 1500
ip address outside 202.99.34.26 255.255.255.248
ip address inside 192.168.4.1 255.255.255.0
ip address dmz 202.99.33.254 255.255.255.0
ip address intf3 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255
ip address intf4 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255
ip audit info action alarm
ip audit attack action alarm
no failover
failover timeout 0:00:00
failover poll 15
failover ip address outside 0.0.0.0
failover ip address inside 0.0.0.0


failover ip address dmz 0.0.0.0
failover ip address intf3 0.0.0.0
failover ip address intf4 0.0.0.0
pdm history enable
arp timeout 14400
global (outside) 1 202.99.33.253 netmask 255.255.255.0
global (dmz) 1 202.99.33.73 netmask 255.255.255.0
nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0
nat (dmz) 0 202.99.33.0 255.255.255.0 0 0
static (inside,outside) 202.99.33.74 192.168.4.250 netmask 255.255.255.255 0
0
static (inside,dmz) 202.99.33.75 192.168.4.250 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
access-group 101 in interface outside
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.99.34.30 1
timeout xlate 3:00:00
timeout conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 rpc 0:10:00 h323
0:05:00 sip 0:30:00 sip_media 0:02:00
timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute
aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+
aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius
no snmp-server location
no snmp-server contact
snmp-server community public
no snmp-server enable traps
no floodguard enable
no sysopt route dnat


telnet timeout 5
ssh timeout 5
terminal width 80
Cryptochecksum:c64047c1918e68b2c5136af635cd2a0d

pixfirewall(config)#




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OT: Network jobs in Dallas, TX? [7:35608]

2002-02-16 Thread ME

I'm new to the Dallas area and recently laid-off.  I was wondering if folks
here knew of anyone looking for somebody with 10 years network exp. and a
CCIE in the Dallas area?  If so please reply.

Thanks,

Mark Egan, CCIE #8775




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Re: TTL and modern (fast) routers [7:35507]

2002-02-16 Thread Chuck

Yes, RFC 1812 is where this is discussed. IIRC, the author notes that all of
the router manufacturers complained that trying to use time rather than hops
was impractical if not impossible from their perspective.

Chuck

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> >AFAIK, the TTL gets decremented by one by a router as it passes it on (if
> >it's held under one second), or by the number of seconds it was held if
it
> >is held over one second.  I agree that anything more than 1000ms of delay
> >seems outrageous for a single hop these days, but I don't know of
anything
> >that has changed that "rule" that both you and I describe.
> >
> >Mike W.
>
> This is off the top of my head, but I think the changing of the rule
> to decrementing the hop count is in RFC 1812. TTL for fragment
> reassembly is a little different.




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what is wrong with the job market ? [7:35611]

2002-02-16 Thread John Green

seems all jobs have just vanished. well then who runs
the networks and equipment ? it's real bad out there
in the job market. 
any web sites to put the resume ? seems dice, monster,
headhunter are not producing any results.

how long is this goind to last ?

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Re: Secondary ip address and ip helper-address [7:35539]

2002-02-16 Thread Michael Williams

Comments inline..

> Once you;ve done this, when a packet arrives at the DHCP server
> with a
> giaddr of
> P, the DHCP server now knows that P and S1, S2, and S3 are all
> related.
> The DHCP
> server uses this, and any configurations the operator has
> provided
> to help select the appropriate scope (subnet) and thus IP for
> this
> device.

I understand the logic of tying the secondary scopes to the primary at ehe
DHCP side, however if the giaddr always reflects the primary subnet, how the
the DHCP server ever know to hand out addrs from the other secondary scopes?

> Note, above I indicated that the primary address is *usually*
> the
> giaddr.
> Two caveats to this:
> 
> * Cisco changed how the relay helpering works in some IOS
> revs-- in some
> 11.x
> or 12.x revs, the giaddr can cycle through all gateway addresses
> assigned on the
> helpering interface.  That is, when a packet gets helpered, the
> router
> will initially
> insert the P address as the giaddr.  If the DHCP server does not
> respond, and
> the router has helpered 3-4 DISCOVERs on behalf of a source,
> the 5-8th
> DHCP DISCOVER
> packets will get helpered using a giaddr of S1.  This repeats
> 3-4 times,
> and if no
> DHCP response is received, S2 is used as the next giaddr. 

This "feature" you describe sounds pretty worthless.  If the giaddr is
always from P, and rotates through S1, S2, S3, etc when the DHCP server
doesn't respond, then unless your DHCP server is down or all IPs have been
allotted for subnet P, then the DHCP request will always result in an IP
from the scope for P.

Mike W.


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Re: Easy ways to pick up a few extra minutes on the CCIE lab. [7:35613]

2002-02-16 Thread Chuck

I borrowed some of these from other folks. Some I derived myself. In the
real lab I found myself using some more than others. knowing the various
switches makes these very useful. note that first two lines - for your
initial configuration of routers, this helps immensely, assuming you have
made no typos.

My favorite dumb thing I once did was mis typing exec-timeout 0 4 that one
was real fun to correct.

I should probably add an eigrp command or two. also an alias for "exit" as
several of these aliases don't work unless you are at the
router(config)> prompt

come to think of it, aliases for show access-list and show route-map might
be useful as well. I hesitate for feat that I'll end up spending too much
time creating the list ;->

enable
conf t

no ip domain-lookup
no ip http server
ip classless
ip subnet-zero
ip tcp synwait-time 5

alias configure a access-list
alias configure ae alias exec
alias configure rm route-map
alias configure ro router

ae a show access-list
ae b show ip bgp
ae d show dlsw
ae e show ip eigrp
ae f show frame
ae ib show ip interface brief
ae ip show ip protocol
ae ir show ip route
ae o show ip ospf
ae p show protocol
ae sr show run | begin
ae xb show ipx interface brief
ae ap show ipx route

line con 0
exec-timeout 0 0
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guy
> put on the list
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:19 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Easy ways to pick up a few extra minutes on the CCIE lab.
> [7:35547]
>
>
> Better than the CTRL+R that I've been using.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:45 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Easy ways to pick up a few extra minutes on the CCIE lab.
> > [7:35541]
> >
> >
> > That's a really good one. I hate it when the console blasts
> > some stupid
> > message at you while you're typing. It still throws me off
> > even though I
> > should be used to it. ;-) Thanks for telling us about this.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 02:11 PM 2/15/02, Sean Knox wrote:
> > >I always enter console config and turn on "logging
> > synchronous"; it inserts
> > >a carriage return automatically after system messages show
> > up. Doesn't hurt
> > >to enable it on the vtys either.
> > >
> > >core8500#conf t
> > >Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
> > >core8500(config)#line con 0
> > >core8500(config-line)#logg sync
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:32 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Easy ways to pick up a few extra minutes on the CCIE lab.
> > >[7:35523]
> > >
> > >
> > >no ip domain-lookup  (how do you spell pnig again)
> > >terminal escape-char 3  (Press Ctrl-c to break out of ping & Telnet)
> > >
> > >Anybody got others?
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Easy ways to pick up a few extra minutes on th [7:35580]

2002-02-16 Thread Chuck

for some reason, the Lab proctors frown on people installing their own
software on their terminals. ;->

I've been told that they frown on people even saving things like their
notepad files to the computers in the lab. I don't recall any instruction
one way or another on this one. I do vaguely recall one proctor saying that
if somehow you hack your way to the internet, and they catch you, you will
be disqualified immediately.

Chuck




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Re: Secondary ip address and ip helper-address [7:35601]

2002-02-16 Thread Chuck

One must be wary of using secondary addresses. As has been discussed here
many a time, in many a context, secondary addressing on routers is
problematic. Adjacencies in various routing protocols do not form. Routes do
not get exchanged.

In general, the router will use the primary address as it's source for lots
of things, including DCHP forwarding.

one solution to the particular problem might be to use the router itself as
the local DHCP server.

Chuck


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> Make sure your Microcrap server is using a superscope to encompass both
your
> DHCP scopes.
>
>
> ""J-B""  wrote in message
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> > Team,
> > I have the following problem:
> >
> > Our network has 10 sites, I am in the process of readdressing current
> > network. I have setup secondary ip address on every site, At the present
> > time I am setting up a wk2000 dhcp/win server in one site. The problem
is
> > that I am not able to obtain ip address from the DHCP server via the
WAN,
> it
> > works fine in the site where it is locate. The layout is the following:
> >
> > Hub site
> >
> > interface Ethernet0
> >  ip address 192.168.13.1 255.255.255.0 secondary
> >  ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
> >  ip helper-address 192.168.12.17
> >  ip directed-broadcast
> >  no cdp enable
> >
> > interface Serial0
> >  no ip address
> >  ip directed-broadcast
> >  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
> >  no ip mroute-cache
> >  frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> >
> > interface Serial0.3 point-to-point
> >  description Spoke site
> >  bandwidth 384
> >  ip unnumbered Ethernet0
> >  ip helper-address 192.168.12.17
> >  ip directed-broadcast
> >  frame-relay interface-dlci 26
> >
> > Spoke site
> >
> > interface Ethernet0
> >  ip address 192.168.12.1 255.255.255.0 secondary
> >  ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
> >
> > interface Serial0
> >  no ip address
> >  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
> >  no fair-queue
> >  frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> > !
> > interface Serial0.1 point-to-point
> >  description connection to Hub
> >  ip unnumbered Ethernet0
> >  bandwidth 384
> >  frame-relay interface-dlci 16
> > !
> >
> > The ip address of the DHCP sever is 192.168.12.17
> >
> > Be aware that I have not problem pinging to the DHCP server from the Hub
> > site.
> >
> > Team, what I am doing wrong here...HELP
> >
> >
> > Thanks (nothing can replace experiencewo)
> >
> >
> > JB




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Re: Easy ways to pick up a few extra minutes on th [7:35580]

2002-02-16 Thread Ozzie Sutcliffe

So everthing is telnet then I guess..If so which telnet client..
Ok troops we need to get Cisco to put terra term on the docs CD rom hey it's
freeware.
Also the terminals are *nix windoze sparky or ???

Oz


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Re: what is wrong with the job market ? [7:35611]

2002-02-16 Thread Paul Borghese

Go to the GroupStudy Jobs discussion group (Web, newsfeed or mailing list).
There are a number of recruiters who can help.

Best of luck!

Paul
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Subject: what is wrong with the job market ? [7:35611]


> seems all jobs have just vanished. well then who runs
> the networks and equipment ? it's real bad out there
> in the job market.
> any web sites to put the resume ? seems dice, monster,
> headhunter are not producing any results.
>
> how long is this goind to last ?
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
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CCDA exam Sucked and now the CID exam? [7:35619]

2002-02-16 Thread ko haag

Hi all,

I just took the CCDA exam and it really sucked!  The boson exam did not
help at all and i have all of them.  Lucky for me I still passed.  The
Cisco press helped but doesn't cover most of the areas.  Most of the
test was just reading, understand and assuming what should be done.  .

Now, is the CID exam going to be in the same format?  Any ideas out
there what study material should I use.

Ko, CCNA,CCNP,CCDA..




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RE: Slightly OT: SSH Poll [7:35505]

2002-02-16 Thread Kent Hundley

John,

I _always_ recommend using ssh instead of telnet wherever possible.  In
fact, I can't think of a single good reason not to use it for in-band
management.  I'm not sure I understand what you mean by it being a pain
since you change passwords often.  I don't see how using ssh is any more of
a pain than using telnet, and its certainly more secure.

I have seen clients whose security policies dictated the use of ssh or, if
that were not possible, use of 2-factor authorization such as securid.  I
suspect most organizations are moving to the use of ssh or have plans to do
so if they are in the least bit security conscious.

Regards,
Kent

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Subject: Slightly OT: SSH Poll [7:35505]


I'm wondering how many of you are involved in networks that use SSH
exclusively for router access.  Since we're in the financial sector,
external auditors continually suggest that this is necessary.  While
it's probably not a bad idea, I personally feel it's more of pain that
it's worth, especially considering how often we change the passwords.
But that's another matter altogether...

So, are any of you using SSH exclusively in fairly large networks?  If
so, has it been working well for you?

Thanks,
John




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Re: CCDA exam Sucked and now the CID exam? [7:35619]

2002-02-16 Thread Ronald James

how you will succeed if you don't have lots of reading before you get into
real practical...??  huh...
you got the point, one reference book is not enough.
the CID book from ciscopress is pretty good; again, find something else too,
such as the cisco website, it has lots of materials, that's my
recommendation.


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>
> I just took the CCDA exam and it really sucked!  The boson exam did not
> help at all and i have all of them.  Lucky for me I still passed.  The
> Cisco press helped but doesn't cover most of the areas.  Most of the
> test was just reading, understand and assuming what should be done.  .
>
> Now, is the CID exam going to be in the same format?  Any ideas out
> there what study material should I use.
>
> Ko, CCNA,CCNP,CCDA..




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Re: RE: Slightly OT: SSH Poll [7:35505]

2002-02-16 Thread John Neiberger

When I said that it was a pain it meant that we'll have to 
change some things operationally which, like most other 
security measures, make things a little more difficult.  Just 
minor issues, no big deal.  One example might be that if I go 
to a remote site to do some work, I may not normally take a 
laptop as I could simply telnet in from a workstation.  That 
capability would go away.  Like I said, not a big deal at all.

It seems that the primary reason we might use SSH--and the 
reason mentioned by auditors--is to avoid sending passwords in 
the clear.  However, as someone else mentioned, the version of 
SSH supported by Cisco sends passwords in the clear!  If that's 
not the case, please let me know.

The other issue that I discovered after I made the original 
post is that the 2500 series does not appear to support SSH and 
we have mostly 2500s at our remote sites.  Again, if I'm 
mistaken there please let me know.

Many thanks!

Regards,
John

http://neiby.home.attbi.com

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> John,
> 
> I _always_ recommend using ssh instead of telnet wherever 
possible.  In
> fact, I can't think of a single good reason not to use it for 
in-band
> management.  I'm not sure I understand what you mean by it 
being a pain
> since you change passwords often.  I don't see how using ssh 
is any more
> of
> a pain than using telnet, and its certainly more secure.
> 
> I have seen clients whose security policies dictated the use 
of ssh or,
> if
> that were not possible, use of 2-factor authorization such as 
securid. 
> I
> suspect most organizations are moving to the use of ssh or 
have plans to
> do
> so if they are in the least bit security conscious.
> 
> Regards,
> Kent
> 
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Behalf Of
> John Neiberger
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 8:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Slightly OT: SSH Poll [7:35505]
> 
> 
> I'm wondering how many of you are involved in networks that 
use SSH
> exclusively for router access.  Since we're in the financial 
sector,
> external auditors continually suggest that this is 
necessary.  While
> it's probably not a bad idea, I personally feel it's more of 
pain that
> it's worth, especially considering how often we change the 
passwords.
> But that's another matter altogether...
> 
> So, are any of you using SSH exclusively in fairly large 
networks?  If
> so, has it been working well for you?
> 
> Thanks,
> John
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redistribution and tags [7:35624]

2002-02-16 Thread Scott H.

At what point during redistribution is a route-map processed?  In other
words, if I want to redistribute from EIGRP (supports tags) to IGRP (doesn't
support tags) can I match tags in the route map and then let those routes go
into IGRP?




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Re: redistribution and tags [7:35624]

2002-02-16 Thread Chuck

Route maps are essentially built around an "if then else(if)" logic. the
point of their activation is the point of their inception.

therefore if you were to have a route-map such as:

route-map eigrp_tag_igrp permit 10
 match tag X
 set metric 1 100 255 1 1500

and the redistribute statement:

router igrp 100
redistribute eigrp 50 route-map eigrp_tag_igrp

then the logic flow is:

1) take a route learned from eigrp 50
2)if the tag for that route is X then set the metric as stated and
redistribute it into IGRP 100
3) else don't redistribute

in this case, only those routes with a tag of X learned from eigrp 50 will
be redistributed into igrp ( subject to the classfulness of the route )

sometimes it can be a little difficult to determine where exactly things
happen in the various processes on a router. for example, linear
redistribute seems not to occur at all, even if that does not seem logical.
( can't redistribute from rip to igrp to ospf an the same router, not and
get anything coherent or predictable as a result ) however, in this case,
the logic appears to be straightforward, so far as I can tell.

HTH

Chuck

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(doesn't
> support tags) can I match tags in the route map and then let those routes
go
> into IGRP?




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Re: Secondary ip address and ip helper-address [7:35539]

2002-02-16 Thread bergenpeak

Hi Mike,

Responses inline:

> I understand the logic of tying the secondary scopes to the primary at ehe
> DHCP side, however if the giaddr always reflects the primary subnet, how
the
> the DHCP server ever know to hand out addrs from the other secondary
scopes?

On the DHCP server, one configures the S1, S2, and S3 scopes to be
"related"
to the P scope.  The DHCP server then knows there are four different
subnets
on this interface are related through P.  When the DHCP server receives
a DHCP
DISCOVER with P as the giaddr, the above linkage indicates to the DHCP
server that
four subnets are on the same router interface.

Without any additional logic, the DHCP server could randonly pick a free
IP address
from any of these four scopes, and send the selected IP in the DHCP
OFFER.  Note,
that the DHCP server will send the DHCP OFFER (and ACK) to the giaddr IP
(P).  The
router receives the DHCP packet, knows what interface it's asociated
with (P),
and forwards out the inteface accordingly.  

Also note that the DHCP server will likely also return other DHCP
information in the OFFER
including default gateway, subnet mask, DNS server IPs and domain
information.  
The default gateway and subnet mask will be specific to the scope from
which the
IP was selected.  

Now, one could configure extra smarts into the DHCP server so that based
on the device making the DHCP request, the DHCP server could assign the
device an address out of one specific scope.   Some devices will use
DHCP
Option 60 to inform the DHCP server of its device type.   The DHCP
server can be configured to use this information to help it select which
of the scopes on the interface are applicable for this device.  There
are other
mechanisms that can also be used by the DHCP server to help determine
how to select
which scope the DHCP request should be mapped to (device MAC address or
OUI,
DHCP Option 82, etc.)


> This "feature" you describe sounds pretty worthless.  If the giaddr is
> always from P, and rotates through S1, S2, S3, etc when the DHCP server
> doesn't respond, then unless your DHCP server is down or all IPs have been
> allotted for subnet P, then the DHCP request will always result in an IP
> from the scope for P.

I think the idea for this cycling feature is as follows:  If one wanted
to
assign multiple subnets onto an interface and these subnets are
configured
to have their IPs assigned via DHCP, then you have the problem discussed
in
this thread.  I expect that there are some off-the-shelf DHCP servers
which
didn't have the ability to logically associate multiple subnets
together.
That is, the DHCP server had the limitation that each scope had to
appear
as if it was on its own interface.  In this sort of environment, the
only
way for the DHCP server to match any of the secondary subnets was if it
saw
a giaddr from one of these secondary subnets.   If the router only ever 
inserted the P address in the giaddr, none of the other scopes would
ever
be matched.  This cycling approach causes the giaddr to change and
rotate through
all the subnets on the interface.

As mentioned before, cisco now has a command which allows one to specify
the
DHCP relay behavior (ie always use the primary address or cycle through
all
subnets on the interface).  This command is called "ip dhcp
smart-relay".

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122sup/122csum/csum1/122csip1/1sfdhcp.htm#xtocid1563023

So in answer to the original poster's question, this command could be
used
to solve his/her problem.  Of course, one needs to be running the right
IOS
rev and this approach will take 10s of seconds or minutes for the device
to come online (as the DHCP cycling happens).   Configuring the
interaces
to be related on the DHCP server is really that way to go (IMO).




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RE: syslog message with UDP CRC error [7:35177]

2002-02-16 Thread Jake Nesbitt

This is a documented bug in the version of IOS that you are running.  The
workaround is to change the source interface for syslog messages to another
interface then the one currently sending the syslog messages.

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Subject: syslog message with UDP CRC error [7:35177]


Hi,

I have a 2620 running IOS Version 12.1(5)with FW feature set running.
I am trying to send syslog to an Information Security Management tool
(Netforensics) to the standard syslog port UDP 514.
The messages arrive to the destination device, I can see them with tcpdump,
but netforensics cannot read them.
Checking more in details the packets, I see that all packets are coming with
a CRC error.
With all the other router I have, it works properly.
Does anybody already experienced that?

thanks for your input.

chris




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Dening telnet access [7:35628]

2002-02-16 Thread McHugh Randy

Access list problem:

Why does this extended access list not work to deny telnet access applied to
the internet interface on a 2514?

Extended IP access list 199
deny tcp any any eq telnet

interface Ethernet0

ip access-group 199 in

I have alot more statments than this and of course the statement
access-list 199 permit ip any any

to take care of the implicit deny all , but I can still access the router
from the internet through telnet.
Anyone have any ideas what else might be needed to prevent of selectivly
allow telnet access to my router.
Thanks,
Randy


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RE: DRAM and FLASH question [7:35600]

2002-02-16 Thread Joseph Brunner

www.memoryx.net

great prices, selection

Joseph Brunner
ASN 21572
MortgageIT MITLending
New York, NY 10038
(212) 651 - 7695 Voice
(212) 651 - 7795 Fax



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Hi all,

I was wondering if somebody good tell me the secret on Kingston memory and
flash in Cisco Routers.

Where is a good and not so expensive (I'm Dutch ..   :-)) site for
selling these items ?


Thanks in advanced ...


Cheers Ronald




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RE: DRAM and FLASH question [7:35600]

2002-02-16 Thread Ozzie Sutcliffe

talk to Brad

oz


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RE: DRAM and FLASH question [7:35600]

2002-02-16 Thread Joseph Brunner

www.memoryx.net

great prices, selection

Joseph Brunner
ASN 21572
MortgageIT MITLending
New York, NY 10038
(212) 651 - 7695 Voice
(212) 651 - 7795 Fax



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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 6:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DRAM and FLASH question [7:35600]


Hi all,

I was wondering if somebody good tell me the secret on Kingston memory and
flash in Cisco Routers.

Where is a good and not so expensive (I'm Dutch ..   :-)) site for
selling these items ?


Thanks in advanced ...


Cheers Ronald




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Re: The proxy problem with pix 525? [7:35603]

2002-02-16 Thread ME

It's always a good idea to hard-code speed and duplex settings.
interface ethernet0 auto
interface ethernet1 auto
interface ethernet2 auto

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> R--FW--DMZ
>|
>   Inside
>|
>Proxy
> One proxy is connected to the inside switch connecting to the FW, but
> internal users are slow to the outside,but the DMZ users are good.why? I
> think something wrong with the proxy configuration!
> The config is follwing:
>
>
> sh conf
> : Saved
> :
> PIX Version 6.0(1)
> nameif ethernet0 outside security0
> nameif ethernet1 inside security100
> nameif ethernet2 dmz security50
> nameif ethernet3 intf3 security15
> nameif ethernet4 intf4 security20
> enable password 8Ry2YjIyt7RRXU24 encrypted
> passwd 2KFQnbNIdI.2KYOU encrypted
> hostname pixfirewall
> fixup protocol ftp 21
> fixup protocol http 80
> fixup protocol h323 1720
> fixup protocol rsh 514
> fixup protocol smtp 25
> fixup protocol sqlnet 1521
> fixup protocol sip 5060
> fixup protocol skinny 2000
> names
> access-list 101 permit tcp any host 202.99.33.66 eq domain
> access-list 101 permit udp any host 202.99.33.66 eq domain
> access-list 101 permit tcp any host 202.99.33.67 eq domain
> access-list 101 permit udp any host 202.99.33.67 eq domain
>
>
> access-list 101 permit tcp any host 202.99.33.69 eq smtp
> pager lines 24
> interface ethernet0 auto
> interface ethernet1 auto
> interface ethernet2 auto
> interface ethernet3 auto shutdown
> interface ethernet4 auto shutdown
> mtu outside 1500
> mtu inside 1500
> mtu dmz 1500
> mtu intf3 1500
> mtu intf4 1500
> ip address outside 202.99.34.26 255.255.255.248
> ip address inside 192.168.4.1 255.255.255.0
> ip address dmz 202.99.33.254 255.255.255.0
> ip address intf3 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255
> ip address intf4 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255
> ip audit info action alarm
> ip audit attack action alarm
> no failover
> failover timeout 0:00:00
> failover poll 15
> failover ip address outside 0.0.0.0
> failover ip address inside 0.0.0.0
>
>
> failover ip address dmz 0.0.0.0
> failover ip address intf3 0.0.0.0
> failover ip address intf4 0.0.0.0
> pdm history enable
> arp timeout 14400
> global (outside) 1 202.99.33.253 netmask 255.255.255.0
> global (dmz) 1 202.99.33.73 netmask 255.255.255.0
> nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0
> nat (dmz) 0 202.99.33.0 255.255.255.0 0 0
> static (inside,outside) 202.99.33.74 192.168.4.250 netmask 255.255.255.255
0
> 0
> static (inside,dmz) 202.99.33.75 192.168.4.250 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
> access-group 101 in interface outside
> route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.99.34.30 1
> timeout xlate 3:00:00
> timeout conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 rpc 0:10:00 h323
> 0:05:00 sip 0:30:00 sip_media 0:02:00
> timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute
> aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+
> aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius
> no snmp-server location
> no snmp-server contact
> snmp-server community public
> no snmp-server enable traps
> no floodguard enable
> no sysopt route dnat
>
>
> telnet timeout 5
> ssh timeout 5
> terminal width 80
> Cryptochecksum:c64047c1918e68b2c5136af635cd2a0d
>
> pixfirewall(config)#




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RE: DRAM and FLASH question [7:35600]

2002-02-16 Thread McHugh Randy

I bought some regular 72 pin simms to upgrade my memory on a 2514 from a
local computer store for $16 for 15mg of dram and it worked fine. I bought
an additional 8mg of flash for 40 on ebay but you might be able to get it
cheaper. Good luck!
Randy


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RE: Dening telnet access [7:35628]

2002-02-16 Thread s vermill

Not sure of your network topology but it looks as if all you have done is to
prevent users on the ethernet interface from using telnet.  You can apply an
'access-class' (which works identically to access-group on a physical
interface) to your vty lines to restrict telnet access from outside into
your router.

ex:

router#(config)line vty 0 4
router#(config-line)access-class 99 in

router#(config)access-list 99 permit 1.1.1.1



McHugh Randy wrote:
> 
> Access list problem:
> 
> Why does this extended access list not work to deny telnet
> access applied to the internet interface on a 2514?
> 
> Extended IP access list 199
> deny tcp any any eq telnet
> 
> interface Ethernet0
> 
> ip access-group 199 in
> 
> I have alot more statments than this and of course the statement
> access-list 199 permit ip any any
> 
> to take care of the implicit deny all , but I can still access
> the router from the internet through telnet.
> Anyone have any ideas what else might be needed to prevent of
> selectivly allow telnet access to my router.
> Thanks,
> Randy




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Increasing or decreasing log buffer size [7:35631]

2002-02-16 Thread McHugh Randy

Does anyone know how to increase or decrease the log buffer size on the
router? Is the buffer just written over once it fills up?

Syslog logging: enabled (0 messages dropped, 0 messages rate-limited, 0
flushes, 0 overruns)
Console logging: level debugging, 98303 messages logged
Monitor logging: level debugging, 0 messages logged
Buffer logging: level debugging, 98303 messages logged
Logging Exception size (4096 bytes)
Trap logging: level informational, 98307 message lines logged
  
Log Buffer (4096 bytes):

Thank you,
Randy


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Re: Increasing or decreasing log buffer size [7:35631]

2002-02-16 Thread John Neiberger

logging buffered [buffer size (bytes)]

When the buffer gets full, oldest events are dropped in favor 
of new events.

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> Does anyone know how to increase or decrease the log buffer 
size on the
> router? Is the buffer just written over once it fills up?
> 
> Syslog logging: enabled (0 messages dropped, 0 messages rate-
limited, 0
> flushes, 0 overruns)
> Console logging: level debugging, 98303 messages logged
> Monitor logging: level debugging, 0 messages logged
> Buffer logging: level debugging, 98303 messages logged
> Logging Exception size (4096 bytes)
> Trap logging: level informational, 98307 message lines 
logged
>   
> Log Buffer (4096 bytes):
> 
> Thank you,
> Randy
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RE: Increasing or decreasing log buffer size [7:35631]

2002-02-16 Thread s vermill

I think

router(config)#logging history size (0-500)



McHugh Randy wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know how to increase or decrease the log buffer
> size on the router? Is the buffer just written over once it
> fills up?
> 
> Syslog logging: enabled (0 messages dropped, 0 messages
> rate-limited, 0 flushes, 0 overruns)
> Console logging: level debugging, 98303 messages logged
> Monitor logging: level debugging, 0 messages logged
> Buffer logging: level debugging, 98303 messages logged
> Logging Exception size (4096 bytes)
> Trap logging: level informational, 98307 message lines
> logged
>   
> Log Buffer (4096 bytes):
> 
> Thank you,
> Randy




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Problem telnetting into router with NAT enabled [7:35634]

2002-02-16 Thread Tim Booth

I am having a problem telnetting into the router from the outside
when I have NAT on the router. Once I take the ip nat outside command
off the outside interface, I can telnet into the router from the
outside. I can ping the NAT router regardless of whether ip nat outside
is on the interface or not. Note that I do, of course, have the vty 0 4
passworded. Here's the config (edited for bandwidth purposes):

interface Ethernet0
 ip address 209.xxx.xxx.xxx 255.255.255.0
 ip nat outside
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252
 ip nat inside
 encapsulation ppp
clockrate 200
!
ip nat inside source list 101 interface Ethernet0 overload
!
access-list 101 permit ip any any
ip classless
!
vty 0 4
password hrmm
login
!
end

   Packets are coming into the router from the telnetting host, and NAT
tries to do a translation on it, but fails, I think..? NOTE in the debug
output: 209.xxx.xxx.xxx is the external router ip address and
216.xxx.xxx.xxx is where I'm telnetting from. This is output from a
debug ip nat detailed and debug ip nat port combined:

04:09:59: NAT - SYSTEM PORT for 209.xxx.xxx.xxx: allocated port 0,
refcount 55, localport -1, localaddr 0.0.0.0, flags 1, syscount 55
04:09:59: NAT - SYSTEM PORT for 209.xxx.xxx.xxx: allocated port 23,
refcount 2, localport -1, localaddr 0.0.0.0, flags 1, syscount 2
04:09:59: NAT: Allocated Port for 209.xxx.xxx.xxx -> 209.xxx.xxx.xxx:
wanted 23 got 2
04:09:59: NAT: i: tcp (209.xxx.xxx.xxx, 23) -> (216.xxx.xxx.xxx, 3012)
[0]
04:09:59: NAT: TCP s=23->2, d=3012
04:09:59: NAT: o: tcp (216.xxx.xxx.xxx, 3012) -> (209.xxx.xxx.xxx, 2)
[51]
04:09:59: NAT: TCP s=3012, d=2->23
04:09:59: NAT: updated sys port: port 23, refcount 1, localport -1,
localaddr 0.0.0.0, flags 1, syscount 1
04:11:08: NAT: expiring 209.xxx.xxx.xxx (209.xxx.xxx.xxx) tcp 2 (23)

  Any ideas?

Kind Regards,
Tim Booth
MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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PIx 501 [7:35635]

2002-02-16 Thread Juan Blanco

Team,
I just got my 501 pix, which book is a good one that I could use to fully
understand this small box(very small).
Thanks,

Juan Blanco
MCSE, CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP...One day CCIE




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RE: Dening telnet access [7:35628]

2002-02-16 Thread Roberts, Larry

Are you wanting to deny telnet through the router, or to the router?

If you are wanting to deny access to the router,
You should create a standard access-list and apply that to the vty
interfaces.

Access-list 10 deny any

Line vty 0 4
access-class 10 in



Thanks

Larry 

-Original Message-
From: McHugh Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 4:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dening telnet access [7:35628]


Access list problem:

Why does this extended access list not work to deny telnet access applied to
the internet interface on a 2514?

Extended IP access list 199
deny tcp any any eq telnet

interface Ethernet0

ip access-group 199 in

I have alot more statments than this and of course the statement access-list
199 permit ip any any

to take care of the implicit deny all , but I can still access the router
from the internet through telnet. Anyone have any ideas what else might be
needed to prevent of selectivly allow telnet access to my router. Thanks,
Randy




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RE: Problem telnetting into router with NAT enabled [7:35634]

2002-02-16 Thread Lupi, Guy

Try this command:

ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.1 23 209.xxx.xxx.xxx 23 extendable

This will map the telnet port of the outside IP address to the inside,
should work for you, let us know.

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~From: Tim Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
~Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:29 PM
~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~Subject: Problem telnetting into router with NAT enabled [7:35634]
~
~
~I am having a problem telnetting into the router from the outside
~when I have NAT on the router. Once I take the ip nat outside command
~off the outside interface, I can telnet into the router from the
~outside. I can ping the NAT router regardless of whether ip nat outside
~is on the interface or not. Note that I do, of course, have the vty 0 4
~passworded. Here's the config (edited for bandwidth purposes):
~
~interface Ethernet0
~ ip address 209.xxx.xxx.xxx 255.255.255.0
~ ip nat outside
~!
~interface Serial0
~ ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252
~ ip nat inside
~ encapsulation ppp
~clockrate 200
~!
~ip nat inside source list 101 interface Ethernet0 overload
~!
~access-list 101 permit ip any any
~ip classless
~!
~vty 0 4
~password hrmm
~login
~!
~end
~
~   Packets are coming into the router from the telnetting host, and NAT
~tries to do a translation on it, but fails, I think..? NOTE in 
~the debug
~output: 209.xxx.xxx.xxx is the external router ip address and
~216.xxx.xxx.xxx is where I'm telnetting from. This is output from a
~debug ip nat detailed and debug ip nat port combined:
~
~04:09:59: NAT - SYSTEM PORT for 209.xxx.xxx.xxx: allocated port 0,
~refcount 55, localport -1, localaddr 0.0.0.0, flags 1, syscount 55
~04:09:59: NAT - SYSTEM PORT for 209.xxx.xxx.xxx: allocated port 23,
~refcount 2, localport -1, localaddr 0.0.0.0, flags 1, syscount 2
~04:09:59: NAT: Allocated Port for 209.xxx.xxx.xxx -> 209.xxx.xxx.xxx:
~wanted 23 got 2
~04:09:59: NAT: i: tcp (209.xxx.xxx.xxx, 23) -> (216.xxx.xxx.xxx, 3012)
~[0]
~04:09:59: NAT: TCP s=23->2, d=3012
~04:09:59: NAT: o: tcp (216.xxx.xxx.xxx, 3012) -> (209.xxx.xxx.xxx, 2)
~[51]
~04:09:59: NAT: TCP s=3012, d=2->23
~04:09:59: NAT: updated sys port: port 23, refcount 1, localport -1,
~localaddr 0.0.0.0, flags 1, syscount 1
~04:11:08: NAT: expiring 209.xxx.xxx.xxx (209.xxx.xxx.xxx) tcp 2 (23)
~
~  Any ideas?
~
~Kind Regards,
~Tim Booth
~MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written
~-
~Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little 
~temporary
~safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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RE: Problem telnetting into router with NAT enabled [7:35634]

2002-02-16 Thread Schneider, Matt

Try this command: 

ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.1 23 209.xxx.xxx.xxx 23 extendable


This will map the telnet port of the outside IP address to the inside, 
should work for you, let us know. 


~I am having a problem telnetting into the router from the outside
~when I have NAT on the router. Once I take the ip nat outside command
~off the outside interface, I can telnet into the router from the
~outside. I can ping the NAT router regardless of whether ip nat outside
~is on the interface or not. Note that I do, of course, have the vty 0 4
~passworded. Here's the config (edited for bandwidth purposes):
~
~interface Ethernet0
~ ip address 209.xxx.xxx.xxx 255.255.255.0
~ ip nat outside
~!
~interface Serial0
~ ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252
~ ip nat inside
~ encapsulation ppp
~clockrate 200
~!
~ip nat inside source list 101 interface Ethernet0 overload
~!
~access-list 101 permit ip any any
~ip classless
~!
~vty 0 4
~password hrmm
~login
~!
~end
~
~   Packets are coming into the router from the telnetting host, and NAT
~tries to do a translation on it, but fails, I think..? NOTE in 
~the debug
~output: 209.xxx.xxx.xxx is the external router ip address and
~216.xxx.xxx.xxx is where I'm telnetting from. This is output from a
~debug ip nat detailed and debug ip nat port combined:
~
~04:09:59: NAT - SYSTEM PORT for 209.xxx.xxx.xxx: allocated port 0,
~refcount 55, localport -1, localaddr 0.0.0.0, flags 1, syscount 55
~04:09:59: NAT - SYSTEM PORT for 209.xxx.xxx.xxx: allocated port 23,
~refcount 2, localport -1, localaddr 0.0.0.0, flags 1, syscount 2
~04:09:59: NAT: Allocated Port for 209.xxx.xxx.xxx -> 209.xxx.xxx.xxx:
~wanted 23 got 2
~04:09:59: NAT: i: tcp (209.xxx.xxx.xxx, 23) -> (216.xxx.xxx.xxx, 3012)
~[0]
~04:09:59: NAT: TCP s=23->2, d=3012
~04:09:59: NAT: o: tcp (216.xxx.xxx.xxx, 3012) -> (209.xxx.xxx.xxx, 2)
~[51]
~04:09:59: NAT: TCP s=3012, d=2->23
~04:09:59: NAT: updated sys port: port 23, refcount 1, localport -1,
~localaddr 0.0.0.0, flags 1, syscount 1
~04:11:08: NAT: expiring 209.xxx.xxx.xxx (209.xxx.xxx.xxx) tcp 2 (23)
~
~  Any ideas?
~
~Kind Regards,
~Tim Booth
~MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written
~-
~Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little 
~temporary
~safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Re: Confussion about CIT Book ! [7:35481]

2002-02-16 Thread Uniq Chance

Thanks to all of you for your input. I think now i have a fairly good idea 
about what book should i use.

Thanks again,

Kaz


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>
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>
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> >cert. guide.  That's the one for the test.  The other one has good
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RE: Problem telnetting into router with NAT enabled [7:35634]

2002-02-16 Thread Tim Booth

--
Try this command:

ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.1 23 209.xxx.xxx.xxx 23
extendable

This will map the telnet port of the outside IP address to the inside,
should work for you, let us know.
--

Guy,

  Thanks very much. It fixed the problem. However, I'm curious as to WHY
I needed to do this and what does the extendable command function to do?

Thanks,
Tim Booth
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Re: access-group ## in or out? [7:35578]

2002-02-16 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

'in or out' depends on whether you want to apply the access list to the
incoming or outgoing interface.  Outgoing is the
default.

Jenn

2/15/2002 8:03:07 PM, "none ya"  wrote:

>Would someone please give me a simple explanation/example that will clarify
>when to use "in" or "out" when you apply an ACL to a router interface?
>Thanks!




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Re: access-group ## in or out? [7:35578]

2002-02-16 Thread Brian

Its all from the routers perspective,
traffic from lan is coming IN your ethernet interface
traffic from the net is coming in net connected interface, and out your
lan connected int.

Brian

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, none ya wrote:

> Would someone please give me a simple explanation/example that will clarify
> when to use "in" or "out" when you apply an ACL to a router interface?
> Thanks!




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Re: Strange Problem: Everything works fine but the Router can [7:35644]

2002-02-16 Thread Brian

Or if you have an incorrect number of default routes..

Bri

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, PING wrote:

> This also happens if you have duplicate IP address
>
> Nadeem
> ==
>
> Hamid Ali Asgari wrote:
>
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I have a router which is the main gateway of my network. All the
> > hosts on my network can successfully ping everywhere on the internet,
> > but the ROUTER itself has always a success rate at 50%. Bellow is the
> > ping result:
> >
> > Router#ping
> > Protocol [ip]:
> > Target IP address: 193.0.0.193
> > Repeat count [5]: 10
> > Datagram size [100]:
> > Timeout in seconds [2]:
> > Extended commands [n]:
> > Sweep range of sizes [n]:
> > Type escape sequence to abort.
> > Sending 10, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 193.0.0.193, timeout is 2 seconds:
> > !.!.!.!.!.
> > Success rate is 50 percent (5/10), round-trip min/avg/max =
> >
> > Same time my computer which is exactly behind the router can ping
> > 193.0.0.193 without any errors.
> >
> > No routing protocol is running on the router and it's using simple
> > static routes and all of its interfaces have VALID IP addresses.
> >
> > Any idea what the problem is ???
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
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RE: Slightly OT: SSH Poll [7:35505]

2002-02-16 Thread Brian

Agreed, at minimum mgmt of the routers would be via a network that had as
its access server ssh only.  Ever used a packet sniffer?  Try ethereal
using telnet, that'll confirm for you why you should use ssh.

Brian

On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Kent Hundley wrote:

> John,
>
> I _always_ recommend using ssh instead of telnet wherever possible.  In
> fact, I can't think of a single good reason not to use it for in-band
> management.  I'm not sure I understand what you mean by it being a pain
> since you change passwords often.  I don't see how using ssh is any more of
> a pain than using telnet, and its certainly more secure.
>
> I have seen clients whose security policies dictated the use of ssh or, if
> that were not possible, use of 2-factor authorization such as securid.  I
> suspect most organizations are moving to the use of ssh or have plans to do
> so if they are in the least bit security conscious.
>
> Regards,
> Kent
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> John Neiberger
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 8:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Slightly OT: SSH Poll [7:35505]
>
>
> I'm wondering how many of you are involved in networks that use SSH
> exclusively for router access.  Since we're in the financial sector,
> external auditors continually suggest that this is necessary.  While
> it's probably not a bad idea, I personally feel it's more of pain that
> it's worth, especially considering how often we change the passwords.
> But that's another matter altogether...
>
> So, are any of you using SSH exclusively in fairly large networks?  If
> so, has it been working well for you?
>
> Thanks,
> John




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Re: redistribution and tags [7:35624]

2002-02-16 Thread Scott H.

Thanks Chuck.  This is actually part of a greater redistribution plan to
match routes already in EIGRP from another protocol and prevent them from
going into IGRP.  I then permit those routers in the other protocol into
IGRP and deny the EIGRP routes in that protocol.  Since I can use the tag to
match the routes prior to going into IGRP, this scenario just got incredibly
easy.  Without the tags, my brain was starting to melt trying to figure out
all the statements for the ACL.

""Chuck""  wrote in message
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> Route maps are essentially built around an "if then else(if)" logic. the
> point of their activation is the point of their inception.
>
> therefore if you were to have a route-map such as:
>
> route-map eigrp_tag_igrp permit 10
>  match tag X
>  set metric 1 100 255 1 1500
>
> and the redistribute statement:
>
> router igrp 100
> redistribute eigrp 50 route-map eigrp_tag_igrp
>
> then the logic flow is:
>
> 1) take a route learned from eigrp 50
> 2)if the tag for that route is X then set the metric as stated and
> redistribute it into IGRP 100
> 3) else don't redistribute
>
> in this case, only those routes with a tag of X learned from eigrp 50 will
> be redistributed into igrp ( subject to the classfulness of the route )
>
> sometimes it can be a little difficult to determine where exactly things
> happen in the various processes on a router. for example, linear
> redistribute seems not to occur at all, even if that does not seem
logical.
> ( can't redistribute from rip to igrp to ospf an the same router, not and
> get anything coherent or predictable as a result ) however, in this case,
> the logic appears to be straightforward, so far as I can tell.
>
> HTH
>
> Chuck
>
> ""Scott H.""  wrote in message
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> > At what point during redistribution is a route-map processed?  In other
> > words, if I want to redistribute from EIGRP (supports tags) to IGRP
> (doesn't
> > support tags) can I match tags in the route map and then let those
routes
> go
> > into IGRP?




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Re: Dening telnet access [7:35628]

2002-02-16 Thread Brian

if your internet connection is via ether0, this would work, but if it is
via serial, you want it inbound on the net connected serial int.

Brian

On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, McHugh Randy wrote:

> Access list problem:
>
> Why does this extended access list not work to deny telnet access applied
to
> the internet interface on a 2514?
>
> Extended IP access list 199
> deny tcp any any eq telnet
>
> interface Ethernet0
>
> ip access-group 199 in
>
> I have alot more statments than this and of course the statement
> access-list 199 permit ip any any
>
> to take care of the implicit deny all , but I can still access the router
> from the internet through telnet.
> Anyone have any ideas what else might be needed to prevent of selectivly
> allow telnet access to my router.
> Thanks,
> Randy




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RE: PVC status don't go down [7:35389]

2002-02-16 Thread Nick S.

Ok, The PVC status would never go down till the switch reports it as down,
and only then will the line protocol go down.

I have come across this scenario a couple of times (with ATM, concept is the
same). And the trick is to use a routing protocol between the 2 routers, a
routing protocol senses that the keepalives / hellos are not being answered
and so will consider the neighbor as down, and in turn will activate the
isdn circuit.

You could also use dialer watch, watch a route and if that route goes down
(when one end of the frame goes down) activate the isdn.

hth
Nick


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Re: PIx 501 [7:35635]

2002-02-16 Thread Godswill HO

The new Cisco Secure PIX Firewalls book edited by David and Andy is an
excellent guide. In case you decide going into cisco security certification,
the book will help with the PIX exam as well.

Good hands on you new baby-PIX 501.

Regards.
Oletu

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: PIx 501 [7:35635]


> Team,
> I just got my 501 pix, which book is a good one that I could use to fully
> understand this small box(very small).
> Thanks,
>
> Juan Blanco
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Spammer [7:35641]

2002-02-16 Thread Paul Borghese

Apparently someone is collecting e-mail addresses from this group and
sending a limited number of spam messages promoting a Cisco certification
product.  Normally we would arrange a boycott against their products.  In
the past, boycotts have been very sucessful.  Both cases in the past where
this happened we were able to put the company out of business.  One was a
very established company .. but being labeled a spammer in this industry is
the kiss of death.Thanks to the outrage of the group, our little boycott
was amazingly sucessful!

In this case, the perpetrater is someone little known.  By arranging a
boycott against this person, they would probably gain market share :-).  So
for now, if you do happen to receive an e-mail advertising a product on
homestead.com, please please complain to:

http://www.homestead.com/PersonalSplash.ffhtml?TARGET=%2f%7esite%2fCompanyIn
fo%2fCompanyInfo%2effhtml

My guess is homestead will just kill their account.

If you ever suspect a company is obtaining e-mails from this list and using
it to send UBE, please notifiy me immediately.   Since employees of their
upstream provider are probably on this list, we have options not available
other places :-).

Thanks!

Paul




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Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35648]

2002-02-16 Thread Joe Morabito

Chuck,

I was just going over the steps laid out in caslow's book, do you think the
step 1, step 2, step 3 approach is better than the layered approach - layer
2, layer 3, access-list, etc.

Thanks.


- Original Message -
From: "Joe Morabito" 
To: "Chuck Church" ; ;

Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Whew! CCIE 8776!


> Congrats!
>
> What did you do the last couple of months?  Practice speed?  Or maybe
> practice the many "little" things in IOS?
>
> Thanks!
>
> I too long for a good night sleep
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chuck Church" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
> Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!
>
>
> > All,
> >
> > I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
> > was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with
the
> > thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
> also
> > to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
> in
> > the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
> > together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole
story.
> > Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
> Novell
> > and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE
written
> > in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
> > for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much
more
> > than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
> and
> > again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
> > (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
> bootcamp
> > labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
> > November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
> > know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
> day
> > format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
> > hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
> > failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
> > nowadays.
> > Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
> > and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed,
I
> > felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
> book
> > made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
> morning.
> > Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
> > with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
> of
> > the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
> and
> > work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
> > proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
> had
> > solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
> > change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
> > impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
> hours
> > to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with
1/2
> an
> > hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10
minutes
> > to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
> > check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
> unconfigured
> > (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
> said
> > to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
> York,
> > and there's the email waiting.  8776!
> > If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:
> >
> > Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
> list
> > that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names,
but
> > there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
> huge
> > asset to this list.  Thanks guys.
> >
> > Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP,
but
> > were afraid to ask.
> >
> > Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
> Pavlichenko
> > - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book
covers
> > most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
> > QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
> > found.
> >
> > Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is
in
> > that book.
> >
> > Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
> was
> > cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great
preparation
> > and simulation for the test.
> >
> > Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!
> >
> > Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and
Val
> > explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
> > little lacking in the book, but they

Re: access-group ## in or out? [7:35578]

2002-02-16 Thread Godswill HO

Look at it from both the Router and the Interface perpective.eg if the
interface facing your LAN is E0 and the interface to the internet is S0.

For traffics coming from your LAN into the Router through the E0 interface,
as the traffic is entering that interface from your LAN it is 'in' and as it
passes and go out of that interface into the backplane of the router, it is
considered 'out' relative to interface E0 and 'in' relative to interface S0,
when it leaves interface S0 into the internet, it is then considered 'out'
relative to interface S0.

For traffics coming from the internet into the Router through the S0
interface, as the traffic is entering that interface from the internet it is
'in' and as it passes and go out of that interface into the backplane of the
router, it is considered 'out' relative to interface S0 and 'in' relative to
interface E0, when it leaves interface E0 into your LAN, it is then
considered 'out' relative to interface E0.

You now see that each interface have two instances of 'in' and two instances
of 'out'. Most security designs uses 'in' more often than 'out' and you
should consider using it as well, if tight security implementation is your
goal. The 'in' keyword makes the router to examine the packets before they
enter the interface and impose the Access-list on the traffic before they
ever have the chance of either entering the Router or your network, while
the 'out' keyword only do that after the traffic have pass through the
interface in question, this should only be allowed for trusted traffics for
which you only want to disallow access to certain services.

If you want to restrict a particular source address from entering into your
network or router, using the 'out' keyword have no effect and it is a
security breach because the traffic would have entered your router or
network before it is acted upon.

Have a clear picture of what you want the access-list to do against the
particular traffic, that will give you a clue on the keyword to use. However
for me security is always at the back of my mind, so by default I use the
'in' keyword except where otherwise unnecessary.

Regards.
Oletu

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From: none ya 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 6:03 PM
Subject: access-group ## in or out? [7:35578]


> Would someone please give me a simple explanation/example that will
clarify
> when to use "in" or "out" when you apply an ACL to a router interface?
> Thanks!
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Re: VoIP - bandwidth [7:35103]

2002-02-16 Thread PING

Considering default payload of 20 bytes, VoIP over Ethernet, no compression:
Codec sample size of 10 Bytes and sample interval of 10 ms:
Voice Packet per second = 1/byte size/sample size*sample interval*1000
= 1/20/10 / 10*1000 = 50 PPS

Total Packet size = IP+UDP+RTP+Enet+Payload=20+8+12+18+20= 78 bytes

So Bandwidth per call = 78*bits * 50 PPS = 31200 = 31.2 Kbps
*If you don't consider L2 overhead, then it comes down to 24 Kbps (each way).

Hope it helps.

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> Hi,
>
> Just a simple question.
> If I make a g.729 VoIP call over a 128K Serial link how much bandwith do I
> need? (20 bytes/packet, no VAD, cRTP,)
> Am I right that I have to count two voice streams when provisioning VoIP?
>  A speaker  --> B listener
>  A listener 
> So, is it around 11kbps or 22kbps?
>
> Attila




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Re: WFQ On High Speed Link [7:34913]

2002-02-16 Thread PING

There are circumstances when WFQ and CBWFQ are used on high speed interfaces,
specially in diffserv QoS environment.

Nadeem
==
s vermill wrote:

> All,
>
> Would you be so kind as to share your thoughts/experience with WFQ on high
> speed links?  I know that Cisco generally considers it to be unnecessary on
> links greater than 2 Mbps.
>
> I have a client with a 16 Mbps HSSI connection between 3640 routers.  The
> config has been in place for a long time.  However, the circuit does not
> seem to support the throughput that they should be getting.  I finally got
> them to share a copy of the config file.  Not only is WFQ enabled, but the
> congestive discard value was left at a default 64 messages.
>
> I am wondering if this is just unnecessary or if it is/can be detrimental?
> As I said, there are indications that there are throughput issues.
>
> Please note that I am just looking for comments.  Unfortunately, I have
> never had my hands on any of their equipment (yet).  Thus, I have no debug
> or even visual observations to offer.  All of my information is third
> party.  Just trying to understand the wisdom of using WFQ in this
environment.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Scott
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RE: PVC status don't go down [7:35389]

2002-02-16 Thread Erick B.

You could also use Frame-Relay End-To-End keepalives
(FREEK). This works best if a subinterface is used.

--- "Nick S."  wrote:
> Ok, The PVC status would never go down till the
> switch reports it as down,
> and only then will the line protocol go down.
> 
> I have come across this scenario a couple of times
> (with ATM, concept is the
> same). And the trick is to use a routing protocol
> between the 2 routers, a
> routing protocol senses that the keepalives / hellos
> are not being answered
> and so will consider the neighbor as down, and in
> turn will activate the
> isdn circuit.
> 
> You could also use dialer watch, watch a route and
> if that route goes down
> (when one end of the frame goes down) activate the
> isdn.
> 
> hth
> Nick


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Not allowed to use 802.1q and ISL at the same time? [7:35655]

2002-02-16 Thread Sean Knox

I was surprised to find that I couldn't enable ISL and 802.1q on different
ports on a Catalyst 8500. Is this a known "feature?"

Sean




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