Re: dial in to AUX port on 2611 [7:15417]
try this. modemcap edit usrmodem misc FS0=1C1D3H1R2B1 then under the line config modem autoconfigure type usrmodem speed 38400 Make sure dips 3 and 8 are down and the rest up. hth Ben --- Mr. Richard L. Pickard wrote: I have a US Robotics Sportster 14,000 modem connected to my 2611 router via the AUX port. The router does not answer the call. I have an enable enable secret password set. I am certain of the satin crossover cable and all other physical layer issues. Here is my config: line con 0 transport input none line aux 0 password cisco login modem InOut transport input all speed 115200 flowcontrol hardware line vty 0 1 password cisco login line vty 2 4 login Anybody have any ideas? [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=15485t=15417 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14503]
Carroll, I got CCNP and CCDP but I am pretty new to UNIX system. I want to lean UNIX with a focus on networking part for the following reasons. -integrate UNIX system to the internetwork -use UNIX for device management using scripts Now, what flavour of UNIX do you recommend to learn as a start? I suppose there is a flavour which contains many commands that also work on other systems, and also a flavour that is most commonly used. Thank you in advance, Marc At 07:20 PM 7/31/01 -0400, Jonathan Hays wrote: No keyboard? It depends. While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, etc.) will run headless, most Intel x86 boxes I have encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the machine won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this I don't know about? --- Jonathan Ah, good point. Now why would it not care which OS? The bios. Crapola bios which give you very little flexibility (enter most commercial packaged PCs with their crap bios) have this problem. If you get a good Asus Motherboard (actually a LOT of vendors give you this flexibility), their bios have this option called Halt On Error: All Error Change it to No Errors Your PC will easy POST without the need for a keyboard after this change. For FreeBSD, you probably want to modify the kernel to always force on the keyboard. You can also recompile the kernel to enable a serial console so it works like the bad-boy Unix Workstations. (need a null serial modem cable and you are ready to rock and console :) ) Reason why you want FreeBSD to always force on the keyboard. If you do not plug in the keyboard, let the box boot, and then plug the keyboard back in, you cannot type anything in. With always force on, it will work afterwards. Of course, this is only the case if you really messed up the box (kernel panic, ip misconfiguration, firewall rules that kick you off) and your boss forgot to buy that access console server. Linux also has a serial console capability IIRC. If anyone here learns basic FreeBSD on their own and needs help for doing some of these more advanced features, I will easily lend a hand. -Carroll Kong _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14503t=14503 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14539]
Carroll, Thank you so much for the detailed reply. Would you recommend any books? (I've read Using UNIX -QUE-. I have installed and played with FreeBSD a little bit. I have no exposure to production UNIX environment.) Thanks, Marc From: Carroll Kong To: data com CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14428] Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:03:42 -0500 At 03:16 PM 8/1/01 +, data com wrote: Carroll, I got CCNP and CCDP but I am pretty new to UNIX system. I want to lean UNIX with a focus on networking part for the following reasons. -integrate UNIX system to the internetwork -use UNIX for device management using scripts Now, what flavour of UNIX do you recommend to learn as a start? I suppose there is a flavour which contains many commands that also work on other systems, and also a flavour that is most commonly used. Thank you in advance, Marc I suggest FreeBSD, but any Unix can be leveraged as a basic learning tool to learn other Unices. If you really understand the concepts and theory of how unix systems are designed, you can easily adopt other unices. The problem with the universal flavor is that all unices for the most part have their roots within two types of unix systems. BSD and SysV. Most commercial unices will be very SysVish. This means their init scripts are usually different, and the layout is going to be different than a BSD like machine. The freeware OSes tend to be very BSDish. Unfortunately, this puts you in a bind. There really is no one unix to rule them all. :( Even if you do pick a BSDish like userland like FreeBSD, some binaries are different than say Redhad Linux. Things like route print would not work in FreeBSD, but netstat -rn would work in FreeBSD and in Solaris x86! In BSDish (and open source) terms, Linux distributions are probably the most used. However, they seem to do a lot of nasty non-standard things like Microsoft. Namely, their GNU route and GNU netstat are drastically different. Plus, their /bin/sh is NOT shell script but rather BASH! ARGH! I feel FreeBSD is far cleaner. In SysV (and commercial) terms, Solaris has definitely become a king. If you want to get good with SPARC hardware, buy a Sun Blade. (not suggested unless you REALLY want to be a Sun head) If you just want to learn Solaris, you are in luck as Solaris x86 is available for free I believe. (I bought my copy for ~$80bucks?). Solaris x86 will most definitely be less forgiving on the hardware support. I feel any BSD, Linux, or Solaris are great starters. Just pick one, and get really good with it. The others will be easily acquired if you run into them. Learn any of them well enough, and you can easily do the two things you mentioned. -integrate UNIX system to the internetwork -use UNIX for device management using scripts Good luck! -Carroll Kong _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=14539t=14539 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
last modem question ever (I can only hope) [7:13586]
Right now im trying to use 2 async lines as a back up for a 56k frame circuit. At this point im not even concerned about the backup part I just want to get the two routers talking to each other. Ive got the modem I want to dial to dial but then nothing really happens. here are the debugs on the modem it is dialing. Router#show debug General OS: Modem control/process activation debugging is on PPP: PPP protocol negotiation debugging is on Router# 02:02:13: TTY3: DSR came up 02:02:13: tty3: Modem: IDLE-READY 02:02:56: TTY3: DSR was dropped 02:02:56: tty3: Modem: READY-HANGUP 02:02:57: TTY3: dropping DTR, hanging up 02:02:57: tty3: Modem: HANGUP-IDLE 02:03:02: TTY3: restoring DTR It looks to me like it connects (both from the debug and the pretty lights on the modems themselves) but that ppp negotiation does not start. Hardwarewise Ive got a 3640 with a wic-2a/s and a 1720 with a wic-2a/s attached to v.34 usr courier modems. Here is the relevent parts of the config from the router that is dialing out. ! version 12.2 no service single-slot-reload-enable service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname PHX_Router ! ! username dialto password 0 password username dialfrom password 0 password ip subnet-zero ! isdn voice-call-failure 0 chat-script dialout ABORT ERROR ATFC1D2 OK ATDT \T TIMEOUT 60 \c call rsvp-sync ! ! interface Serial2/0 physical-layer async no ip address encapsulation ppp dialer in-band dialer pool-member 2 async mode dedicated ! interface Serial2/1 physical-layer async no ip address ! interface Dialer2 ip address 10.145.1.2 255.255.255.0 encapsulation ppp dialer pool 2 dialer remote-name dialto dialer string 2546593 dialer hold-queue 100 dialer-group 2 pulse-time 0 ppp authentication chap ! ip classless ip route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 Dialer2 no ip http server ! dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit ! ! ! ! ! ! dial-peer cor custom ! ! ! ! line con 0 exec-timeout 0 0 transport input none line 65 66 no exec script dialer dialout modem InOut modem autoconfigure type usr_courier transport input all stopbits 1 speed 115200 line aux 0 line vty 0 4 password password login ! end and here is the config from the modem it is dialing into. version 12.1 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Router ! ! username dialto password 0 password username dialfrom password 0 password ! ! ! ! memory-size iomem 25 ip subnet-zero no ip domain-lookup ! chat-script dial ABORT ERROR ATFC1D2 OK ATDT \T TIMEOUT 60 \c chat-script resetusr atfs0=1e0r2d2c1b1h1m4k1q0w OK ! ! ! interface Loopback0 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.255 ! interface Serial0 no ip address ! interface Serial1 physical-layer async no ip address encapsulation ppp dialer in-band dialer map ip 10.145.1.2 name Phx_Router broadcast dialer-group 1 async mode dedicated ppp authentication chap ! interface Serial2 physical-layer async no ip address ! interface FastEthernet0 ip address 10.129.0.132 255.255.0.0 speed auto ! ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial1 no ip http server ! dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit ! line con 0 transport input none line 2 3 no exec script dialer dial script reset resetusr modem InOut transport input all stopbits 1 speed 115200 line aux 0 line vty 0 4 login ! no scheduler allocate end I think im missing something pretty basic here, as in I basically dont know what to do now. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated at this point. Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=13586t=13586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: last modem question ever (I can only hope) [7:13586]
Yes, it dials and handshakes but never initiates the ppp negotiation. The lights on both modems indicate a good connection, but then the connection just times out. Ben --- Farhan Ahmed wrote: try this telnet 192.168.1.201 20(yourline#) at OK atdtX mobile is it dialing? -Original Message- From: No Data [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 11:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: last modem question ever (I can only hope) [7:13586] Right now im trying to use 2 async lines as a back up for a 56k frame circuit. At this point im not even concerned about the backup part I just want to get the two routers talking to each other. Ive got the modem I want to dial to dial but then nothing really happens. here are the debugs on the modem it is dialing. Router#show debug General OS: Modem control/process activation debugging is on PPP: PPP protocol negotiation debugging is on Router# 02:02:13: TTY3: DSR came up 02:02:13: tty3: Modem: IDLE-READY 02:02:56: TTY3: DSR was dropped 02:02:56: tty3: Modem: READY-HANGUP 02:02:57: TTY3: dropping DTR, hanging up 02:02:57: tty3: Modem: HANGUP-IDLE 02:03:02: TTY3: restoring DTR It looks to me like it connects (both from the debug and the pretty lights on the modems themselves) but that ppp negotiation does not start. Hardwarewise Ive got a 3640 with a wic-2a/s and a 1720 with a wic-2a/s attached to v.34 usr courier modems. Here is the relevent parts of the config from the router that is dialing out. ! version 12.2 no service single-slot-reload-enable service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname PHX_Router ! ! username dialto password 0 password username dialfrom password 0 password ip subnet-zero ! isdn voice-call-failure 0 chat-script dialout ABORT ERROR ATFC1D2 OK ATDT \T TIMEOUT 60 \c call rsvp-sync ! ! interface Serial2/0 physical-layer async no ip address encapsulation ppp dialer in-band dialer pool-member 2 async mode dedicated ! interface Serial2/1 physical-layer async no ip address ! interface Dialer2 ip address 10.145.1.2 255.255.255.0 encapsulation ppp dialer pool 2 dialer remote-name dialto dialer string 2546593 dialer hold-queue 100 dialer-group 2 pulse-time 0 ppp authentication chap ! ip classless ip route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 Dialer2 no ip http server ! dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit ! ! ! ! ! ! dial-peer cor custom ! ! ! ! line con 0 exec-timeout 0 0 transport input none line 65 66 no exec script dialer dialout modem InOut modem autoconfigure type usr_courier transport input all stopbits 1 speed 115200 line aux 0 line vty 0 4 password password login ! end and here is the config from the modem it is dialing into. version 12.1 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Router ! ! username dialto password 0 password username dialfrom password 0 password ! ! ! ! memory-size iomem 25 ip subnet-zero no ip domain-lookup ! chat-script dial ABORT ERROR ATFC1D2 OK ATDT \T TIMEOUT 60 \c chat-script resetusr atfs0=1e0r2d2c1b1h1m4k1q0w OK ! ! ! interface Loopback0 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.255 ! interface Serial0 no ip address ! interface Serial1 physical-layer async no ip address encapsulation ppp dialer in-band dialer map ip 10.145.1.2 name Phx_Router broadcast dialer-group 1 async mode dedicated ppp authentication chap ! interface Serial2 physical-layer async no ip address ! interface FastEthernet0 ip address 10.129.0.132 255.255.0.0 speed auto ! ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial1 no ip http server ! dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit ! line con 0 transport input none line 2 3 no exec script dialer dial script reset resetusr modem InOut transport input all stopbits 1 speed 115200 line aux 0 line vty 0 4 === message truncated === __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=13593t=13586 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
still problems with wic-2a/s on a 3640 [7:12726]
Is there a specific network module that a wic-2a/s needs to go into to be recognized on a 3640. Ive tried every version IOS that says it work, verified the operation of the wic-2a/s in a 1720, and verified my network module with a wic-1t. The network module that I have is a an NM-1E2W. Do I need a different module for the wic-2a/s Ben PS, debugging assembly takes way longer than debugging C. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12726t=12726 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
async issues - still cant get it to dial [7:12496]
Im still stuggling with an async connection. Using Ejay's wonderful help last week Ive gotten my router configured but I cant seem to get the modem to dial. Right now I am just trying to dial into a remote dial-in server with ppp, pap authentication. Here is my config. Current configuration: ! version 12.1 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Router ! no logging console ! ! ! ! ! memory-size iomem 25 ip subnet-zero ! chat-script dial ABORT ERROR AT Z OK ATDT \T TIMEOUT 30 CONNECT ! ! ! interface Serial0 physical-layer async no ip address encapsulation ppp dialer in-band dialer pool-member 1 async mode dedicated ! interface Serial1 no ip address shutdown ! interface FastEthernet0 ip address 10.129.0.132 255.255.0.0 speed auto ! interface Dialer1 ip address negotiated encapsulation ppp dialer remote-name ? dialer pool 1 dialer string 1308334 dialer hold-queue 100 dialer-group 1 ppp authentication pap ppp pap sent-username 'name' password 'password' ! ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.129.0.1 ip route 150.150.0.0 255.255.0.0 Dialer1 no ip http server ! dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit ! line con 0 transport input none line 1 no exec script dialer dial modem InOut modem autoconfigure type usr_courier transport input all stopbits 1 flowcontrol hardware line aux 0 line vty 0 4 login ! end Im using an external usr_courier and have the pins all set to defaults. Does anyone have any ideas? Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12496t=12496 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: async issues - still cant get it to dial [7:12496]
I should be more specific I think. Im not even getting the modem to dial. I think my problem is with the chat script. I checked 56k.com and still have no idea how to write the script (yep, Im a complete newbie with modems) I believe I have the DIP switches set correctly now (3 and 8 down for the USR modem). The initialization string that the cisco website says to use is ATF1S0=1 while 56k.com says ATF1 should be fine. Maybe that narrows down the problem Im having. Ben --- Farhan Ahmed wrote: are u getting the answer of access server or no is it stays on verifying password or ur router doesnt dial at all check your modem chat script at 56k.com send me debug ppp negotiation -Original Message- From: No Data [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: async issues - still cant get it to dial [7:12496] Im still stuggling with an async connection. Using Ejay's wonderful help last week Ive gotten my router configured but I cant seem to get the modem to dial. Right now I am just trying to dial into a remote dial-in server with ppp, pap authentication. Here is my config. Current configuration: ! version 12.1 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Router ! no logging console ! ! ! ! ! memory-size iomem 25 ip subnet-zero ! chat-script dial ABORT ERROR AT Z OK ATDT \T TIMEOUT 30 CONNECT ! ! ! interface Serial0 physical-layer async no ip address encapsulation ppp dialer in-band dialer pool-member 1 async mode dedicated ! interface Serial1 no ip address shutdown ! interface FastEthernet0 ip address 10.129.0.132 255.255.0.0 speed auto ! interface Dialer1 ip address negotiated encapsulation ppp dialer remote-name ? dialer pool 1 dialer string 1308334 dialer hold-queue 100 dialer-group 1 ppp authentication pap ppp pap sent-username 'name' password 'password' ! ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.129.0.1 ip route 150.150.0.0 255.255.0.0 Dialer1 no ip http server ! dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit ! line con 0 transport input none line 1 no exec script dialer dial modem InOut modem autoconfigure type usr_courier transport input all stopbits 1 flowcontrol hardware line aux 0 line vty 0 4 login ! end Im using an external usr_courier and have the pins all set to defaults. Does anyone have any ideas? Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12502t=12496 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wic-2a/s on 3640 [7:12517]
anyone have any experience with a wic-2a/s on a 3640. I have IOS version 11.1 and the card is not being seen. I think I have to upgrade to IOS version 12.x in order for the router to see the card. Can anyone confirm this? Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12517t=12517 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asynch on 3640 [7:12142]
Im trying to configure a my 3640 to dial a ppp server and then route ip over that link. It will stay up permanently until the frame connection comes back up. Im putting a wic-2a/s into wic1 on the NM in slot 1. First off Im not real sure how the line numbering will go (cisco's site is pretty meager unless its an 8 or 16 port NM). Secondly how do I configure this to just dial out? Im thinking. line # speed 115200 flowcontrol hardware transport input all stopbits 1 modem inout modem autoconfigure type usr_sportster int serial # (this is how I think the a/s will show up) encapsulation ppp async dynamic address ppp authenticaion pap dialer-map ip ?.?.?.? name destination 555-1212 ppp pap sent-username ### password ### then put a static route in and ping the destination. Does this look even remotely correct. Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12142t=12142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 routers, 1 async line [7:12178]
What is the simplest way to connect two routers over an asnyc line for a permanent connection? I have a 1720 with a serial interface and a 3640 with a wic-2a/s. Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12178t=12178 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using AUX port for remote admin [7:9260]
Tomarrow a co-worker of mine is flying out to a remote site and is going to try and hook a modem up to our 1720 running 12.1 IP/IPX into it's AUX port so that I can dial in and admin the router. I don't have one to test this out on so I am going to include the config that I want to use. If someone would be so kind as to let me know if they see any problems with it, I would be very thankful. line aux 0 speed 38400 stopbits 1 flowcontrol hardware modem inout transport input all modem dialin modem autoconfigure type asr_courier login password ** Please let me know what you think. Ben, CCNP __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9260t=9260 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF Hub and Spoke [7:9268]
If you have a number of routers on the end of each WAN link then you might want to extend area 0 to include those links and terminate on the remote routers. You might also be able to get away with not really having an area 0 on an actual network by creating a loopback interface and placing it by itself in area 0. Im just shooting that last one off the top of my head and have never tried it but it might work. Also dont forget that static routing works very well for a hub and spoke topology; this is if you don't have other redundant connections and you can redistribute between static and eigrp. To me it sounds like your hub and spoke wan links are your backbone. I would probably try and extend area 0 over those wan links. It also depends on your remote routers. I've got a 1600 on the end of a 56k line running tcp header compression that stays around 8%-10% processor usage, if youv'e got smaller routers like that and are pushing a lot of traffic through them and doing things like compression or encryption you might want to look at the processor utilization pretty closely. I've found OSPF to be a pretty low bandwidth user so I wouldn't worry about WAN link congestion if only the hub and spoke are in area 0 (of course if you extend the other areas over those WAN links and there are numerous recalculations in that area your network is in effect sending useless data over the WAN link and also possibly affecting all the other areas by slowing the hub router down). In closing, after babbling for quite a while, my gut would say to go with area 0 over the WAN links. blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah. Then again I could be wrong :) Ben, CCNP --- John Neiberger wrote: I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around a specific scenario and I wanted to get your thoughts. Let's say we have a hub and spoke network with a single router as the hub. There are five areas attached to the backbone. It seems that we would have to extend area 0 across the WAN links, but I'm wondering what would happen if we didn't. If we didn't, the backbone router would have no interfaces in area 0. I'm wondering if this would cause some major problems. I bet that it would but I'm having a hard time thinking through what actual problems might arise. Would this backbone router just know that it was area 0 because it has interfaces in multiple non-zero areas and hence behave correctly? One obvious problem is that the backbone router would be a member of every area and would thus be pretty busy if the network got to be very big. If we extended area 0 across the WAN link the backbone router would be protected from running SPF calculations everytime a remote area had a link change. What other problems would arise? Would this even work at all? I don't really have the tools to try it or I'd just attempt this chaos myself. As you can guess, we run eigrp everywhere so I'm still clueless to some of the workings of OSPF in a production environment. Regards, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9271t=9268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passing Exams without a lab!! Read this its a thought [7:9078]
Remember that you are taking an exam sponsored by a vendor for the sole purpose of selling more of the vendors equipment. If the exams were too hard few people would pass and therefore when the buying decisions are made cisco would come up less often. If the exams were too easy cisco would lose credibility by certifying that people unskilled in their products were actually skilled professionals. In other words not a single certification exam is about anything other than a marketing tool. Ben, CCNP --- JC wrote: Hello, I just couldn't resist stating this on the groupstudy, please respond with your feelings on this matter. I started studying for my CCNA back in October of last year. I was lazy so I took my time and passed the test in December of last year. I got lazy for a while and then I began studying for my CCNP in April. at the end of May I took my certification tests, my goal was to take: 1) CCNP Foundation Exam 2.0 2) CCNP CIT 2.0 Exam 3) CCDA Exam 4) CCDP Exam Within a two week time frame I passed all of these exams. What is my point, I'm dissapointed that I was able to pass all of these exams in two weeks. The state of certification today stinks in my opinion. They offer you multiple choice exams, why? So many people are getting certified in this and certified in that, that after awhile our certs will be of no value. The only reason the CCIE is the almighty is because you have to take a lab to pass it. Why don't they require everyone to take a lab test for all levels of tests. It does not have to be a full blown equipment lab but why can't the tests be virtual in nature. Setup a virtual lab test sorta like the Sybex CCNA simulator setup, and make people enter some crucial commands by memory or fill in the blank. Specify the connector that should be attached to this interface, configure the CSU, etc... etc... See, the problem is, I've studied for multiple choice tests all of my life, In college you took the same multiple choice tests, however every once in a while you had to be creative and pass an essay exam which truly tested your ability to know the process and know the facts. I realize it is easier to write a multiple choice exam and make money, but from our perspective it cheats us. The problem is that I studied my ass off to pass the tests, but a lot of the information you study for a multiple choice test leaves your head instantaneously. If all Certification tests reguardless of level included a lab portion it would test our ability to be creative with a design on a design exam, or test our troubleshooting knowledge on a troubleshooting exam, not merely remember a fact. I owe a lot to certifications because they have helped my career along, but in the same vein I still can't survive without my degree. The credibility of exams these days is diminishing along with the economy. As long as it is a dog eat- dog world as we have always known it to be, we are all in trouble. The only people that stand to make money off of us by writing multiple choice exams are the vendors of the equipment and those who train us. W are getting ripped off here guys and there will never be an end to the price increases on exams and labs if we don't work to improve the quality of the exams that are given. If everyone can pass these exams without ever touching any equipment then these certifications mean nothing. My heart tells me that the CCIE is the most coveted by all because it challenges your true ability to function in a real world scenario, and not everyone has it because their is a lab portion which truly tests our skills not just our memorization ability. Have you ever worked with the guy who knows everything, yet you study for all those certifications and you still feel completely inferior around him. Sure your title says CC this and MC that, but while your studying, the know it all veteran with no certifications is basically running the business by keeping the network running, keeping management happy, keeping customers happy, and most of all contributing to the profitability of the company. This is not meant to be a cut on any of us networkers, and I'm not saying I'm any different then the rest. However, my goal on certifications has changed dramatically. If there is not a lab component I'm not interested. We have to fight for the value of our studies, if not then we will all be searching for a new line of work. Thanks, JC [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9078t=9078 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations
Re: Passed Switching 2.0 Exam [7:8647]
Remote Access asks what interfaces the specific models of 1600s have and about 700s quite a bit more than it should have and on the troubleshooting test there were way to many questions that just didn't make sense unless you are trying to sell the product (I can look the exact specs up, I cant look up common sense troubleshooting steps quite as easily though). I have no doubt that these certifications are a marketing tool. I mean look how certifications helped solidify MS position in the marketplace. Ben, CCNP --- Chewy Gravy wrote: My heavens, what a horrible test. It felt like there was virtually nothing on MLS and multicast, but they were very interested in my choices for switches in different scenarios, what hardware could do what and what lights blinked when as a router powered up or was connected to a switch. And trunking - lots and lots of trunking. What do you need on this end vs. that end of a trunk, what if this is wrong, encapsulations... egad. Some of the worst wording on a test I've ever seen. Five questions into it I was taking notes so I would be better prepared when I came to take it again. Luckily I won't have to. Stuy materials: - Cisco LAN Switching (Cisco Press) - Exam Prep: Switching (Coriolis) - CCNP: Switching (Osborne) - Boson practice exams (www.boson.com) Good luck! Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=8722t=8647 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
frame relay DLCIs [7:8611]
I was playing around with a router here at work before I have to put it into production. I've got a serial interface that is set to encapsulation frame relay. Well, I forgot to take one dlci off and then I assigned another dlci to s0 giving s0 both dlci 100 and dlci 429 (there are no sub interfaces here). Is this really possible in a real network and why would one have 2 dlcis on a single interface? Ben, CCNP __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=8611t=8611 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: frame relay DLCIs [7:8625]
Thank you, that clears many things up. Ben, CCNP --- Mike Fountain wrote: If it is a multi-point interface you can have more then one DLCI configured. The DLCI configured in the router is actually the DLCI for the remote end that the Frame-Relay switch would be telling the router about. The router doesn't really care what it's local DLCI is, only what the remote DLCIs it should be listening for. So this router would expect your frame-relay vendor's switch to be giving him LMI updates for PVCs with remote DLCIs of 100 and 429. - Original Message - From: No Data To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: frame relay DLCIs [7:8611] I was playing around with a router here at work before I have to put it into production. I've got a serial interface that is set to encapsulation frame relay. Well, I forgot to take one dlci off and then I assigned another dlci to s0 giving s0 both dlci 100 and dlci 429 (there are no sub interfaces here). Is this really possible in a real network and why would one have 2 dlcis on a single interface? Ben, CCNP [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=8630t=8625 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help on Nlsp [7:7580]
First, you dont need ipxwan to connect two routers together, you only need it if you need to talk to a Novell server on the other end of a WAN link (as in that server is also routing). You can just use 'ipx network #' (no encapsulation to worry about) on those links. Second, when connecting two routers with ipxwan you dont need 'ipx nlsp enable' on the interface. If you are connecting to a Novell box the necessity of that command depends on the Novell configuration. Third, try 'ipx ipxwan 0 unnumbered 'routername'' instead of specifying the local node and network number. The '0' above designates to use the global local node id. Im pretty sure this refers to your internal ipx network and since you have one internal you would be safe using this. I would recommend unnumbered as really that is what ipxwan was designed for (between two Novell boxes there is no ipx network number). Ben, CCNP --- Dar wrote: hi, Guyzz i am having problem with Nlsp. Can u look at my configs and let me know wots wrong with it. Thanks 4001-3601-3602-4002 A-4002#sh run ipx routing .0cf1.571a ipx internal-network 400 ! interface Loopback0 ip address 128.103.35.97 255.255.255.240 no ip directed-broadcast ipx network DAAD ! interface Serial0 ip address 128.103.35.34 255.255.255.240 no ip directed-broadcast ipx ipxwan 10 A010 R1 ipx nlsp enable no fair-queue ! ipx router nlsp area-address A000 FF00 3602#sh run ! ipx routing 0002.b934.b791 ipx internal-network 300 ! interface Serial0/3 bandwidth 256 ip address 172.16.1.2 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast no ip mroute-cache ipx ipxwan 30 A020 R2 ipx nlsp enable fair-queue 64 32 0 no cdp enable ! interface Serial0/5 bandwidth 1544 ip address 128.103.35.33 255.255.255.240 no ip directed-broadcast no ip mroute-cache delay 2000 ipx ipxwan 20 A010 R2 ipx nlsp enable fair-queue 64 32 0 no ignore-hw local-loopback clockrate 64000 ! ! ipx router nlsp area-address A000 FF00 3601#sh run ! ipx routing .0c8a.a695 ipx internal-network 200 ! interface Serial0/3 ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast no ip mroute-cache ipx ipxwan 40 A020 R3 ipx nlsp enable no ignore-hw local-loopback clockrate 64000 ! interface Serial0/4 bandwidth 1 ip address 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast no ip mroute-cache delay 100 ipx ipxwan 50 B020 R3 ipx nlsp 1 enable fair-queue 64 32 0 ! ! ipx router nlsp area-address A000 FF00 ! ! ipx router nlsp 1 area-address B000 FF00 ! 4001#sh run ! interface Loopback0 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast ipx network DAAF ! interface Serial1 bandwidth 1 ip address 192.168.3.2 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast delay 100 ipx ipxwan 60 B020 R4 ipx nlsp 1 enable fair-queue 64 256 0 clockrate 64000 ! ipx router nlsp 1 area-address B000 FF00 ** A-4002#sh ipx nlsp nei NLSP Level-1 Neighbors: Tag Identifier = notag System Id Interface State Holdtime Priority Cir Adj Circuit Id 3602 Se0 Up 540 -- -- 03 A-4002#sh ipx nlsp nei det NLSP Level-1 Neighbors: Tag Identifier = notag System Id Interface State Holdtime Priority Cir Adj Circuit Id 3602 Se0 Up 510 -- -- 03 IPX Address: 300...0001 IPX Areas: A000/FF00 Uptime: 00:25:09 A-4002#sh ipx nlsp database detail NLSP Level-1 Link State Database: Tag Identifier = notag LSPID LSP Seq Num LSP Checksum LSP Holdtime ATT/P/OL 3601.00-000x0007 0x8540 6829 0/0/0 IPX Area Address: A000 FF00 IPX Mgmt Info 200...0001 Ver 1 Name 3601 Metric: 45 Lnk 3602.00MTU 1500 Dly 15124 Thru 60K Generic WAN Metric: 45 Lnk 3601.02MTU 1500 Dly 14924 Thru 60K Generic WAN 3601.02-000x0005 0x0CCA 6830 0/0/0 IPX Mgmt Info B020... Ver 1 Name Serial0/4 Metric: 0 Lnk 3601.00MTU 0 Dly 0 Thru 0K Generic WAN Metric: 1 IPX Ext 100 Ticks 12 Metric: 1 IPX Ext DAAF Ticks 11 A-4002.00-00* 0x0003 0x9457 5935 0/0/0 IPX Area Address: A000 FF00 IPX Mgmt Info 400...0001 Ver 1 Name A-4002 Metric: 45 Lnk 3602.00MTU 1500 Dly 15124 Thru 60K Generic WAN Metric: 6 Lnk A-4002.02 MTU 1514 Dly 5000 Thru 3705032K Generic L AN A-4002.02-00* 0x0001 0x32D7 5886 0/0/0 IPX Mgmt Info DAAD..0cf1.571a Ver 1 Name Loopback0 Metric: 0 Lnk A-4002.00 MTU 0 Dly 0 Thru 0K Generic LAN A-4002.03-00* 0x0001
Re: Managing www access using ACL's [7:7589]
(config)#access-list 100 permit tcp 'source-ip' any eq www (config)#access-list 100 deny tcp any any eq www (config-if)#ip access-group 100 out make the interface the one headed towards the internet or where ever your http server is. Ben, CCNP --- Mark Villanova wrote: Whats the best way to limit www access to a group of say 20 ips using access lists? [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=7595t=7589 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I am having a mental block [7:7609]
host A -- router -- host B Assuming the router is not acting as a bridge, etc. When the packet goes from A to the router its destination MAC will be that of the router interface it can talk to (it will ARP it's gateway's address). When the packet goes from the router to host B the source MAC will be that of the router's interface on that network. Not sure on the last one. Ben, CCNP --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep on seeing these questions in books and practice test that ask me If host A sends a frame to host B what is the source MAC address? What is the designation MAC address? host A ---repeater-host B (I don't think anything will happen to the frame's MAC address) host A ---bridgehost B (I don't think anything will happen to the frame's MAC address) host A ---routerhost B (MAC address changes. What is the source MAC? What is the destination MAC?) host A -Ethernet-router SR/TLB-token ring---host B (MAC address changes. What is the source MAC? What is the destination MAC?) I am having a mental block [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=7624t=7609 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study material recommendations for CCIE [7:7621]
Im about 1/3 the way through Giles book right now. I've found a few errors but not too many. The coverage of the layer 1 and 2 material is very detailed though I wish it was organized a little better (Trying to learn all about MAC address in ethernet, token ring and FDDI at the same time is a bit much (no pun intended :) I would recommend it for the lower layer stuff and would recommend starting your written study there. Ben, CCNP --- Circusnuts wrote: Yep- the first edition was pretty much an embarrassment. I bought it soon found my self with a massive pile of Errata. The second edition seems clean though I'm not quite half way through it, appears to cover the tedious (Ethernet, Token Ring, FDDI) framing bridging (no voice that I see) very well. Phil - Original Message - From: Brian To: Circusnuts Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: Re: Study material recommendations for CCIE [7:7621] Ok a note regarding errata, all these books will have some, but the first edition of the Roosevelt Giles book is notorious for this. I have heard the second is better, just wanted to throw that out there. Brian Sonic Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Circusnuts wrote: Everyone that E-mailed in, forgive me for waiting so long to reply. I recently purchased the Roosevelt Giles All In One CCIE book, to use as my template for the CCIE written (which I'll probably schedule in a week or 2). Here is my list of books I have purchased am reading through. I have pulled these books from coworkers (new old CCIE's), the GroupStudy list, a good friend who teaches CCIE lab prep clasess, the CCO CCIE Catalog http://www.ciscopress.com/series.cfm?series=2subseries=17news=0 Here goes: All In One CCIE (Second Edition) http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/compare/isbn/0071356762 EIGRP Network Design Solutions http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?q=1578701651t=ISBNx=16y=18 OSPF Network Design Solutions http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=1578700469 Cisco Voice Over Frame Relay, ATM, IP http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=1578702275 Integrated Voice and Data Networks http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=1578701961 Voice Over IP Fundamentals http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=1578701686 Internet Routing Architectures http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=157870233x Cisco BGP-4 Command and Configuration Handbook http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=158705017x Cisco ATM Solutions http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=1578702135 Cisco LAN Switching http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=1578700949 Routing TCP/IP http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=1578700418 Internetworking SNA with Cisco Solutions http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=1578700833 Developing IP Multicast Networks http://www6.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?t=ISBNq=1578700779 Compaq's FDDI papers ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/archives/networks/fdsld-sd.pdf Loui Rossi's Token Ring paper http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: Figueroa, Luis To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: Study material recommendations for CCIE Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:24:14 -0400 From: Circusnuts Subject: Re: CCIE where to start? [7:7259] CCIE start buying books immediately !!! I finished the CCNP a few months back, but have been working on the lab (using CCIE boot camps) for a little over a year now. I would say the next step is to take a deep breath hit www.bestbooksbuys.com. I'm @ about $500 for the month. If you are looking for some recommendations (I have a lot of CCIE coworkers/ mentors) contact me offline. I know Louie, Chuck, Howard have built quite a list also. Phil Hi Phil. My name is Luis. I could use some recommedations from you Howard, Chuck, Thanks. Luis. [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=7636t=7621 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: help on Nlsp [7:7580] clarification [7:7634]
NLSP is multi-area I meant to say that it doesnt have the different levels of areas like IS-IS like originally intended. I would first try something like this. On r1 ipx internal-network 100 ipx routing on the interface ipx ipxwan 0 unnumbered r1 ipx nlsp enable on r2 ipx internal-network 200 ipx routing on both interfaces ipx ipxwan 0 unnumbered r2 ipx nlsp enable etc., etc. After you verify that you can ipx ping across you will know that nlsp is working fine (when you enable nlsp on an interface IPX RIP is turned off), then try summarizing the networks and stuff. Ben, CCNP --- Dar wrote: hummm thanks for your advise, actually i couldnt find any material on configuration of Nlsp at all so i was trying to configure it by hit and trial method. Its not IP thats why couldnt get it working. I read somewhere in cisco documentation that you need to configure ipxwan if you want to run nlsp on your wan link. I am not sure about two things, one is TAG and the other is unnumbered in ipxwan command. Can you kindly tell me something about these? Thanks again Regards, Dar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of No Data Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: help on Nlsp [7:7580] First, you dont need ipxwan to connect two routers together, you only need it if you need to talk to a Novell server on the other end of a WAN link (as in that server is also routing). You can just use 'ipx network #' (no encapsulation to worry about) on those links. Second, when connecting two routers with ipxwan you dont need 'ipx nlsp enable' on the interface. If you are connecting to a Novell box the necessity of that command depends on the Novell configuration. Third, try 'ipx ipxwan 0 unnumbered 'routername'' instead of specifying the local node and network number. The '0' above designates to use the global local node id. Im pretty sure this refers to your internal ipx network and since you have one internal you would be safe using this. I would recommend unnumbered as really that is what ipxwan was designed for (between two Novell boxes there is no ipx network number). Ben, CCNP --- Dar wrote: hi, Guyzz i am having problem with Nlsp. Can u look at my configs and let me know wots wrong with it. Thanks 4001-3601-3602-4002 A-4002#sh run ipx routing .0cf1.571a ipx internal-network 400 ! interface Loopback0 ip address 128.103.35.97 255.255.255.240 no ip directed-broadcast ipx network DAAD ! interface Serial0 ip address 128.103.35.34 255.255.255.240 no ip directed-broadcast ipx ipxwan 10 A010 R1 ipx nlsp enable no fair-queue ! ipx router nlsp area-address A000 FF00 3602#sh run ! ipx routing 0002.b934.b791 ipx internal-network 300 ! interface Serial0/3 bandwidth 256 ip address 172.16.1.2 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast no ip mroute-cache ipx ipxwan 30 A020 R2 ipx nlsp enable fair-queue 64 32 0 no cdp enable ! interface Serial0/5 bandwidth 1544 ip address 128.103.35.33 255.255.255.240 no ip directed-broadcast no ip mroute-cache delay 2000 ipx ipxwan 20 A010 R2 ipx nlsp enable fair-queue 64 32 0 no ignore-hw local-loopback clockrate 64000 ! ! ipx router nlsp area-address A000 FF00 3601#sh run ! ipx routing .0c8a.a695 ipx internal-network 200 ! interface Serial0/3 ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast no ip mroute-cache ipx ipxwan 40 A020 R3 ipx nlsp enable no ignore-hw local-loopback clockrate 64000 ! interface Serial0/4 bandwidth 1 ip address 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast no ip mroute-cache delay 100 ipx ipxwan 50 B020 R3 ipx nlsp 1 enable fair-queue 64 32 0 ! ! ipx router nlsp area-address A000 FF00 ! ! ipx router nlsp 1 area-address B000 FF00 ! 4001#sh run ! interface Loopback0 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast ipx network DAAF ! interface Serial1 bandwidth 1 ip address 192.168.3.2 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast delay 100 ipx ipxwan 60 B020 R4 ipx nlsp 1 enable fair-queue 64 256 0 clockrate 64000 ! ipx router nlsp 1 area-address B000 FF00 ** A-4002#sh ipx nlsp nei NLSP Level-1 Neighbors: Tag Identifier = notag System Id Interface State Holdtime Priority Cir Adj Circuit Id 3602 Se0 Up 540 -- -- 03 A-4002#sh ipx nlsp nei det NLSP Level-1 Neighbors: Tag Identifier = notag System Id Interface State Holdtime Priority Cir Adj Circuit Id 3602 Se0 Up 510 -- -- 03 IPX Address
Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
As far as this thread goes Ill put in my two cents worth. Im just starting to study specifically for the written right now having just gotten my CCNP so I am in with those studying for the lab now (or real soon). Personally I think Cisco could go right ahead and make the lab as hard as they want. In all honesty I never see the lab being as hard as the orals a 'pure science' graduate student must take. It is only, and will probably ever only be a technical exam and will never even come close to the difficulty of a theoretical examination where new ideas must digested and expounded upon. Everyone has always known what to study, routing and switching on cisco hardware/software, these are not massively huge topics as a fairly comprehensive library would only fill a couple bookshelves. In fact I wouldnt mind if the test was a single question 'Redesign the overall topology of the Internet with regards to emerging traffic patterns expounding upon different paradigms of routing. Give specific configuration examples at all levels of the network using any given piece of Cisco equipment.' The current lab is not that hard and will never be that hard, but if it was I would not be disappointed, I would personally like such a challenge. CCIE is not the be all and end all of knowledge; it is just a verification of technical skills on a small selection of platforms. If it was made more difficult I would not begrudge anyone else who achieved the certification before it was made harder, I am comfortable with my skills and abilities and really feel no need to use a paper certification as a crutch for the future. Studying for the written and lab though does help me to focus and explore routing so I continue to do it. In conclusion, it should be as hard or as easy as Cisco wants it to be, I am confident that I will still pass no matter what when I take the lab a year from now. Ben, CCNP --- Circusnuts wrote: Louie- I don't think we're talk'n Apple to Apples here... During the early CCIE exams, I was told candidates were able to use their own notes during the test (if Pamela Forsythe is out there, she could confirm this rumor) can you imagine how much easier the lab would have been with versions 9.0, 10.0 or even 11.0(22) IOS. I agree there's more information available, but after having sat through a 2 week CCIE lab prep class... I think the information just gets you in the ballpark. Things like bad time management poor interpretations, are big obstacles no book can fix. I believe the exam is as hard (if not harder) than it's ever been. Man- this cup of coffee I'm drink'n must not be decaff :o) Phil - Original Message - From: Louie Belt To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] When the CCIE cert first came about there were not 100+ books avilable to help you pass it. There were not a multitude of online labs, lab study guides, study groups, ... Since all of those items are now available, I feel the bar has been lowered. I'm for putting it back where it was. Additionally I'm studying for my second CCIE cert, I sincerely hope that it is much tougher than my first. I want to maintain the value of the cert. Louie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735] I agree with you. It's awful easy for someone who's already gotten their CCIE (which when they passed the lab probably could be quoted as saying something like that was the most difficult thing I've ever seen) to now say Sure.. make it as difficult as possible I don't know many CCIEs personally. Only a couple, and both of them said that given the time constraints of the lab (2 days), it is extremely difficult. So I don't think jamming it into 1 day just because Cisco is too cheap to spring for more testing centers to keep up with demand is a resonable solution. Isn't this why Cisco is contemplating making it 1 day? Not to raise the bar of the level of the exam, but simply because they're testing centers can't handle the demand. Mashing into 1 day, IMHO, would be a very poor decision. Agreeing with Brad, do all of the CCIEs that are out there have a problem with leaving the bar where it was when you passed it? It only seems fair. Mike W. Bradley J. Wilson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... If I weren't up to the challenge, I wouldn't be on this newsgroup. Are you up to the challenge of leaving the bar at the same height that it was when *you* passed the test? I personally think the test is difficult enough as it is. Am I a wimp because of that? Do we need to dump some dirt on the top of Everest now that it's
Re: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725]
I passed CIT last week with around an 800 so I will tell you some things that I wish I had known better than I did. First I should have studied everything about how a catalyst works and switches packets and secondly I should have learned every single detail about ISDN. HTH Ben, CCNP --- Ronny Jonathan wrote: Hi Andrew, Congratulation for you success. I am going to go for CIT next week. Do you have any tips and suggestion about the exam ? Regards, Ronny - Original Message - From: Andrew Larkins To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: Passed CIT - Now a CCNP!! [7:6725] I passed my final exam yesterday - CIT with a score of 919. At last I have my CCNP. Many thanks to everyone on this list for all the informative threads and help with problems I have had over this pass period. Now to do my CCDP and security specialisation - anyone have any tips for these Thanks again Andrew Larkins BCom, CCNP, CCDA Bytes Technology Group Limited Tel : +27 11 800 9467 Fax : +27 11 800 9496 Mobile : +27 83 656 7214 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6777t=6725 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CIT [7:6316]
Last friday I passed the CIT exam to complete the CCNP track. I scored a 796/699. All I can say is that I was very unprepared :) I used the Cisco Press book which was very helpful and would have been enough if I would have focused on the correct things. I also used the Bosen CIT test #1 which was not very helpful at all. The test seemed to be more of a 'technologies' test in the sense that there were a lot of questions concerning layers 1 and 2, asking how the packets were switched and about signalling and things of that nature as opposed to things like routing protocols and the higher layer information. Well I passed and learned not to ignore anything but that I instead should have just started studying the material at the depth needed to pass the written test. Im a CCNP now after only 8 months of even knowing what a router is. Working on routers at work and in my own lab has been extremely helpful. Ben, CCNP PS. OT: I saw Blue Man Group in Vegas on Friday to celebrate. I highly recommend seeing them, it was refreshingly impressive. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6316t=6316 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCRAN [7:5498]
The ISDN CIM is published by ciscopress, costs about $150 and is available at most online bookstores. Its one of the better of the CIMs, especially if you dont have ISDN capabilites in your lab. Ben --- Anthony wrote: I am taking it also. Where did you get the isdn router sim? Boywonder wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks Pat. Anyone else got any good info? Patrick Donlon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I passed the Remote Access exam last Thursday, expect some Framely relay, X25, and ISDN of course. I had a lot of questions where I had to choose a command from a list of commands, including some non existant ones, such as how do I map an IP address to an ISDN number. I used the Cisco Press book and it's practice exam and the isdn router cim and didn't find it difficult, good luck Pat Bryce Jewell wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys, I am just new to the group. Can anyone please tell me what to expect in the BCRAN exam? I am taking it next week and any tips and tricks will be muchly appreciated. Thanks, Bryce FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=5647t=5498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hey guys..about my Cisco equipment list...for CCNP [7:5625]
For my CCNP lab (which becomes a CCIE lab in 2 days when I pass CIT :) I started with (2) 2502 and (1) 1750. IMO 3 routers is fine for the CCNP level of topical coverage. If you have the cash to splurge on a Cat5k it would be real nice. Ben --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys: I was trying to figure out if I needed any extra equipment to get my CCNP. I'm currently working on CCNA but wanted to know if I need anything else. Here is my current equipment. TWO 2501 Cisco Routers ONE 2503 ONE 2514 ONE 804 ISDN router ONE 1924EN switch TWO 16 port Netgear hubs TWO Adtran NT1 ACE ONE TelTone ISDN simulator ONE 5002 switch with Supervisor ONE and 12-port 10/100 SIX workstations Do I need to get another 1924EN switch as someone said I should.. or is my equipment list complete. I'm only going for my CCNP and stopping there. Please let me know your insights. thankx Timmy FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=5646t=5625 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATM in Lab [7:5319]
Ive never worked with ATM before and would like to start playing with it in my home lab. Do I need to buy an LS1010 (or LS100) or can I do all the configuration stuff that is necessary with an MC3810? I havent really been able to differentiate between the two products all that much yet (of course I dont have any ATM xp either). Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=5319t=5319 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WIC-1ENET on a 1720 (IOS release question) [7:4889]
I have a 1720 that I need to put a WIC-1ENET card into. On Cisco's website it said that 'IOS Release 12.1(3)XT1 or later' is required. Does 12.1.1(*) count as a later release? Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=4889t=4889 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure promiscuous port for private VLAN [7:4869]
To set a port to send out all traffic from a particular vlan try the command 'set span [vlan_number] [module/port]' where vlan_number is the vlan you want to monitor and module/port is the port you want to monitor on. This is used to listen to all traffic going through a particular vlan. Im not real clear as to what you are trying to do. If you are trying to have the router route between the different vlans you have configured you need to use a trunk line with either ISL or dot1q. HTH a little. Ben --- Group study wrote: on 6500, one primary private VLAN 111, 4 secondary community private vlan, I need to configure one promiscuous port(3/18, connected to router) to communicate all 4 secondary community private vlan. set pvlan mapping 111 511 3/18 cannot add aprivate vlan mapping to a port with another private port in same ASIC and I can not set vlan 111 3/18 What did I do wrong ? How can I accomplish this ? Thanks Ruihai FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=4917t=4869 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anybody seen a live production network of Apollo, XNS, [7:4721]
2 years ago a friend working for a mid-sized drywall company told be about the brand new VINES network they just had installed to network their 20 or so computers. Seems to me like the guy just wanted to insure that he would be the one to fix or upgrade things in the future. All I can say is OUCH! Ben --- NRF wrote: Has anybody here ever actually worked on (or even seen) a live and functioning Apollo, XNS, CLNS, and/or VINES network lately (like in the last year or so)? I'm not talking about some experimental lab, but a bona-fide network that is doing something useful for some organization somewhere. I am sure they are still out there somewhere, and I'm trying to get an idea of who might still be running these kinds of systems (some government organizations probably). Thanx FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=4721t=4721 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE prep - review lab inventory and budget [7:3908]
Budget more. The teltone will run you around $1500 methinks. You might want to try a 500-CS (or is it CS-500?) series access server instead of a 2511. A 2522(or 2523) would be nice to set up as a frame relay switch and try a 2901 instead of the 2924-XL as a switch. On the equipment list is also a 3900 series token ring switch which used to be an olicom 8600, that might be real nice to have. Judging by the prices on ebay (which from what I have found are usually market for used cisco stuff) you probably need to budget $7,000 to $8,000 and another $1,500 to $1,800 for the 3900 (unless you get lucky and find an actual olicom 8600 which might go cheaper as it doesn't say cisco on it). Also you are missing voice capabilities which I have heard shows up on one of the labs. ATM is missing as well (in my lab we solved that with a 3COM frame relay/ATM access concentrator, though I don't remember specifics off the top of my head right now). I've been going with 2502s instead of 2501s due to price and the fact that im pretty familiar with ethernet at this point. For the console server you might also want to consider a Xylan 1800 (or 1600 with software) or a Digi Portserver. Both would be much cheaper than a 500-CS (or is it CS-500, you make the call:) though the cabling wants to make me puke (im still trying to find a cat5 cable with 10 wires instead of 8, maybe im just not looking in the right places. You might be able to save some money with a POTS simulator and async ports for a while and still do most of the dialer configs instead of all the ISDN stuff as ISDN routers and simulator. Take a look at ccbootcamp's lab(s) and model off their equipment. My lab is as follows (2) 2502 (1) 1750, serial, voice, BRI (2) 1720, 1 serial each (1) AccessPro somethingorothernotallthatuseful (1) HUB (3) Linux boxes for tftp, ntp, snmp, and traffic (1) Frame relay/ATM thingybobber (1) Xylan 1800 maybe will be swapped with Digi Portserver 8 What will be added later this summer (1) 5000, Sup1, 24 ports (1) 3920 (1) Async ports on 1720s (1) 1750, serial, voice, BRI (1) 2523 (for a frame switch) (1) POTS simulator (1) lots of modems and csu/dsu just because HTH Ben --- EA Louie wrote: I'm getting ready (or in Texas, I'd be a-fixin to git ready) to build a CCIE lab prep setup, both for personal use and for the use of my local studygroup. Here's what I've identified - if I'm missing anything, please let me know. Here's the strategy I'm going to take for the equipment: 1-2511 --- console server (w/ octal cable) 1-2503 --- ISDN 1-2504 --- ISDN 1-2514 - dual eth 1-2515 - dual t/r 1-4000 w/NP-4T and NP-1E or NP-2E, and a BRI interface or two if they exist (F/R switch) 1-2924-XL teltone isdn simulator 3 token ring MAUs 3 token ring media filters 4 AUI-10BT transceivers 4 Ethernet hubs 6 60-pin DTE-DCE cables a bunch of Cat5 cables rack rackmount kits (or shelves) and a partridge in a pear tree ;-) I'm budgeting about $4000 and if an additional 2501 falls into my possession by accident, so be it ;-) That should provide most of what's needed and enough of the interface types required to practice configurations (especially desktop protocols and iBGP/eBGP). I'd love a Cat5k too, but I can't do it on this budget. What do you think about this parts list? Pretty good for a start? Think it's achievable with $4000? -e- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=3911t=3908 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613]
I see the next 'killer app' being VoIP (and just deploying one set of wires) and also Multicast audio and blackboard applications. Cisco looks well positioned to help with both of those. Ben --- EA Louie wrote: nice Dan, thanks for the walk down memory lane, for reminding us that this is temporary. and now listmembers... (drumroll please) ... who is YOUR guess for the next new kid on the block? -e- - Original Message - From: ccnawan To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: OT:There is always a New Kid on the Block (CIsco) [7:2613] Hi all, A few days ago there was a thread about the value of cisco certs, and how they were a lot of people pursuing them now. My first recollection of IT, was when Big Blue was King, my oldest brother would bring some of the IBM computer punch cards home from his job. Nobody could touch IBM then. That was still true when I started out in IT in 1981. A couple years later the new kid on the block was Novell Netware, and everybody including me wanted to be a CNE. I pursued my Netware certs. Then, we started hearing rumblings about Microsoft NT. You had to be a MCSE, if you did you could name your price, and that was true. As it was when Netware 2.1 first came out nobody knew about NT, so I followed the new kid and got a job in a NT shop. Well, now it is Cisco, no disrespect, I am a (Cisco reseller) and a few years as technology changes, it will be someone else maybe Juniper. After 20 years in IT nothing has changed, you must be prepared to learn new technology, keep your ear to the ground for the new kid on the block, he is coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.. I love computers. Dan Evensen CCNAWS CNS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2642t=2613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Allowing the DNS in a config ??? [7:1240]
Heh, I bet most of us turn dns look-ups off when we are on routers :) Anyway, the command is 'ip domain-lookup' It should be on by default. When you set up the router as a firewall you need to allow tcp port 43 for DNS to come into your private network (please correct me if I am wrong on this). I hope that answers your questions. Ben --- Circusnuts wrote: Forgive me- I did find the stats sheet from the ISP was able to configure the workstation to find the DNS server. Everything is UP now. I am aware the router cannot become the DNS server, but what are the commands to allow it to perform DNS lookup (or allow the router access to the DNS server) for it's own resolution ??? Thanks Phil - Original Message - From: Daniel Serna To: Circusnuts Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Allowing the DNS in a config ??? [7:1240] Hello, If I understand you correctly, you want the router to act as a DNS server or to at least allow the DNS through it? As you probably know, the router can't act as a DNS server, it can act as a DNS client. It should be able to pass the DNS traffic along since I see there are no access-lists stopping it. I would configure your PC with a DNS server from your ISP manually, as well as the gateway, and proxy settings. Do you have a firewall between your PC and the router that might be blocking the DNS traffic ? -Daniel- On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Circusnuts wrote: Hey all- I'm setting up my home network with a dual Ethernet 2500. I have most the config written for PAT (or NAT Inside Overload), better know as "TOO CHEAP TO PAY FOR EXTRA IP'S" :o) I'm @ a loss as far as how to get the Cisco to resolve Domain Names or pass through that access. Let me be less specific give the symptoms... I have the router up translating address (many 10. addresses to on outside IP). I can Ping anything out on the Internet, but I am not able to get WebPages to resolve on the PC or Ping anything with a Domain Name (router or PC). The cable company has everything to obtain Dynamically on the PC. There are no DNS, Proxy, or default gateway settings in the PC control panel. Firewall#sh run Building configuration... Current configuration: ! version 12.0 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Firewall ! enable password Phil ! ip subnet-zero ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast ip nat inside ! interface Ethernet1 ip address 24.X.X.72 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast ip nat outside ! ip default-gateway 24.X.X.1 ip nat pool Molly 24.X.X.72 24.X.X.72 netmask 255.255.255.0 ip nat inside source list 1 pool Molly overload ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 24.X.X.1 ! access-list 1 permit 10.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 ! line con 0 transport input none line aux 0 line vty 0 4 login ! end Any ideas ??? Thanks Phil FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1275t=1240 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 700 on BCRAN [7:1096]
I took the test a couple weeks ago and had 2 or 3 extremely general questions on the 700. All I did was read the chapter on 700s in the BCRAN book before I went and I felt like I knew the answers to those questions. Ben -Original Message- From: Cisco Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BCRAN...any questions on 700 series(Chapter 9) [7:930] Are there any questions on the 700 series(Chapter 9 in the BCRAN book )? In the cisco online curriculum they have the 700 series as an appendix instead of a chapter...does this mean questions on this topic wont appear on the testthanks for the help :-) Paul _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1096t=1096 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opinions on Cisco Access Pro AP-EC's [7:1045]
I have an AccessPro sitting in a computer and still not in my lab. It's an ISA card with 3 interfaces on the back, 1 ethernet, 1 serial, and 1 aux port. It runs regular 2500 IOS software but the memory configuration if I recall is 4/8 and is not expandable. There are other interface configurations just like the rest of the 2500 series but none have more than two routing interfaces. There is no console port but there is a port called PCBus (or something like that) that takes com 2 on a pc. (conflicting stories as to whether one must disable com 2 in BIOS or not) My PCBus interface is administratively shutdown right now and I, for some unknown to me reason, cannot get into privilaged mode from either aux or ethernet (I type 'enable' and get a 'no password specified' message). During my quest to solve this problem I have found virtually no documentation from cisco about this little sucker, no password reset instructions or anything. Called Cisco and no help there really so I am just left to tinkering until I can finally get access to it. As far as an AccessPro vs. a 2500 series it comes down to this. If you already know a bit about the AccessPro you can pick them up used for under $200 and add another fixed config router (with limited capabilities and two interfaces) into your network. With a 2500 or 1600 you get a fixed config router that you can put larger IOS files onto for at least double the price. Kind of a toss up if you dont have any exp or documentation with the APs as documentation on the 2500s and 1600s is abundant. Ben --- Drew Simonis wrote: I saw this device mentioned on another mailing list I read as a good item for a home lab. Basically, its a 2501 on a PC card. I wonder why I haven't seen this device mentioned in this group as a good piece to have. Are there any issues with this product that make it less suitable than a 1601, 2501, etc?? Curious... -Ds FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1152t=1045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written questions [7:1005]
1. Does the CCIE Written test still contain the topics that have been droped from the lab (i.e. LANE, Appletalk, etc.) or have they been dropped from the written test as well? 2. How hard is the written test compared to the CCNP tests? I just have CIT to go and so far have been scoring right around 900, is the test significantly harder than the others? 3. I've heard that studying for the Lab and the Written at the same time is not a good idea. This doesn't make sense to me as the way I solidify my grasp of concepts is to log onto my routers, try it out, and see what it does. Does anyone have any comments on studying for both at the same time? Thanks, Ben PS Im new here so hi everyone :) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1005t=1005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
