2500 Memory Question. [7:52097]

2002-08-26 Thread Robert D. Cluett

All,

Am I reading this correctly?  Is this stating that I do have 16MB Flash /
16MB DRAM but need to unpartition the flash?  If so, how do I unparitions
Flash Memory?  Thanks in advance!

Kennedy-2502 uptime is 4 minutes
System restarted by power-on
System image file is "flash:2:c2500-d-l.112-9", booted via flash

cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision L) with 14336K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 06992214, with hardware revision 
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
1 Token Ring/IEEE 802.5 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash partition 1 (Read/Write)
8192K bytes of processor board System flash partition 2 (Read/Write)

Cluett




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Re: NEWS! Cisco Boot Proms No Longer Available. [7:51989]

2002-08-25 Thread Robert D. Cluett

I just got 10 sets from TAC...very true...not easy to get, but it can be
done.

""Robert D. Cluett""  wrote in message
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> Guess what, Boot Proms are no longer available for the 2500 series router.
> They are no longer listed on the Cisco Pricing Tool.  I've spoken with
both
> Pre-sales and I am currently speaking with TAC about this.  Be forewarned!
> I can't explain it since the 250x access servers are still being support.




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Off Topic: VPN Router to Router Understanding? [7:52040]

2002-08-25 Thread Robert D. Cluett

All,

My apologies for having to post this here, but I have not been able to get
an answer from anyone.

The scenario is this, I have 2 linksys routers connected to each other over
a VPN tunnel (dsl).  My question is, if I was to access the internet would
it need to travel on the tunnel to the other linksys and out to the
internet, or would it simply travel my dsl connection to my ISP'd gateway
router and out?  I am trying to understand what type of load I will be
putting on my dsl connection.

Any thoughts would help..thanks

Cluett




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OPSF, RIP, BGP Packet Generator Windows [7:51713]

2002-08-19 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Anyone know where I might find a packet generator to run under XP?




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AAA Authentication [7:51668]

2002-08-19 Thread Robert D. Cluett

I am going to install some sort of accounting and privlidge managment on an
access server.  Essentially I want to restrict certain commands from being
used and log the amount of time that a user has used the system.  Is there a
method or application that will best suit this?




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Re: ISDN Cable for lab? [7:51651]

2002-08-19 Thread Robert D. Cluett

is it really worth it?

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> No, you need an isdn simulator.
>
> --
> Johnny Routin
>
>
>
>
> ""Robert D. Cluett""  wrote in message
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> > Can a straight through cat 5 cable be used for ISDN connectivity in a
lab
> > (between 2 2503's)?




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ISDN Cable for lab? [7:51651]

2002-08-19 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Can a straight through cat 5 cable be used for ISDN connectivity in a lab
(between 2 2503's)?




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Re: traceroute IP displays twice [7:51622]

2002-08-19 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Thanks Raj!

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> i should have included this part as well to the previous post :
>
> >1 172.26.1.13 20 msec
>172.26.1.2 20 msec
>172.26.1.13 20 msec
>
> The above indicates, of the two possible paths the router has [172.26.1.2,
> 172.26.1.13] it has chosen the path 172.26.1.13.




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traceroute IP displays twice [7:51622]

2002-08-18 Thread Robert D. Cluett

All, any idea why this IP 172.26.1.13, shows twice?

Kennedy-2502#traceroute 192.168.1.103

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 192.168.1.103

  1 172.26.1.13 20 msec
172.26.1.2 20 msec
172.26.1.13 20 msec
  2 172.26.1.6 36 msec
172.26.1.9 40 msec *




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2500 End-of-Life (CCIE Lab)? [7:51589]

2002-08-18 Thread Robert D. Cluett

All, with the 2500 series now at  an "end-of-life" status, will the CCIE lab
soon eliminate this and otherwise turn our current personal lab investments
in to trash?  Any thoughts on this?




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Re: 2502 Memory/Flash [7:51387]

2002-08-14 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Cool, I am thinking I will grab some from Kg2.com, but just want to make
sure I get what I need.  So I can add (1) 8MB flash simm and (1) 16MB DRAM
Simm?  Tell me more about the boot ROMS...please

""Patrick Bass""  wrote in message
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> you need another 8mb flash stick, and a 16mb dram.  try e-bay.  you may
need
> to upgade your bootroms too search the archives for info.
>
>
> ""Robert D. Cluett""  wrote in message
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> > All, am I reading this right?  Does this state that there is 8MB Flash
and
> > 2MB of DRAM?  If so, what do I need to do to get it to the latest
version
> of
> > IOS that Cisco uses for the tests?  Help would be more than appreciated!
> >
> > cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision L) with 2048K/2048K bytes of
> memory.
> > Processor board ID 06992214, with hardware revision 
> > Bridging software.
> > X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
> > 1 Token Ring/IEEE 802.5 interface(s)
> > 2 Serial network interface(s)
> > 32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
> > 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)




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2502 Memory/Flash [7:51387]

2002-08-14 Thread Robert D. Cluett

All, am I reading this right?  Does this state that there is 8MB Flash and
2MB of DRAM?  If so, what do I need to do to get it to the latest version of
IOS that Cisco uses for the tests?  Help would be more than appreciated!

cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision L) with 2048K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 06992214, with hardware revision 
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
1 Token Ring/IEEE 802.5 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)




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Re: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]

2002-08-09 Thread Robert D. Cluett

A new moto for the group, maybe!
""Kaminski, Shawn G""  wrote in message
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> Hardcore, BABY!! I love it
>
> Shawn K.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robert D. Cluett [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:40 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]
> >
> > "I will be a CCIE before I die"? Man, is that how we look at this?
> >
> > ""Vogel Matthew GS-11 CFAO/IRMD""  wrote in
> > message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I would like to add my 2 cents on this topic as well.  This is a
debate
> > that
> > > I have heard over and over and the answer is that it depends on the
> > > individual person and what they wish to achieve with a CCIE
> > certification.
> > > A couple of points need to be made.
> > >
> > > 1. Certifications, including the CCIE, are not a guarantee of a job or
a
> > > particular salary.  I am studying for the CCIE now and everyone tells
me
> > > that I am going to make six figures when I get my cert.  I do not
> > believe
> > > that that will happen and I am not getting my cert for the money.  I
> > work
> > > for the government for less than my peers and will continue to do so
> > after
> > I
> > > get my cert.  A government job has great benefits and good job
security.
> > I
> > > also get to go home at 4:30 everyday.
> > >
> > > 2. Certification does not mean you know it all.  True the CCIE is the
> > > pinnacle of Cisco certs but is does not mean you know it all.  There
are
> > > many more topics that are not covered in the CCIE that a person may
not
> > have
> > > knowledge of.  That is why there are multiple CCIE tracks.
> > >
> > > 3. Continuing one's education is never a bad thing.   In the
networking
> > > world things change by the day.  Working toward a cert and staying
> > certified
> > > is a good way to force yourself to stay up with the technology.
> > >
> > > 4. Better to have the cert than not to.  If you are applying for a job
> > and
> > > their are two other candidates with the same experience level and
> > training
> > > but you have a CCIE cert and they do not, who do you think is going to
> > get
> > > the job?  In today's job market every little bit helps.  For ever
person
> > I
> > > have heard say it did not make a difference when they got hired, I
know
> > > three more people that say a cert did make the difference.  I know
that
> > my
> > > certs, MCSE, CCNP, and CCDA helped me get my current job right after
> > Sept.
> > > 11.
> > >
> > > Like I said, it boils down to each individual making a decision.
> > Personally
> > > I am not going for the CCIE for the money or a job.  I already have
> > both.
> > > The payback for me in the knowledge that I got the cert when others
said
> > I
> > > could not.  The prestige is also a good thing.  To me it does not
matter
> > how
> > > long or how much money it takes, I will be a CCIE before I die.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: McHugh Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:42 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]
> > >
> > >
> > > I am not so sure it is worth it. I had a CCNP, CCDP, and experience as
a
> > > network engineer and was out of work for almost an entire year. I
think
> > it
> > > is only worth it for the challenge and if you really love it , becuase
> > your
> > > going to have to put so much time and effort into passing the lab
unless
> > > your willing to make a huge sacrifice and really enjoy it then just
not
> > > going to be fun. Just my  2 cents.




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Re: Notes on salaries [7:51052]

2002-08-09 Thread Robert D. Cluett

I like this statement

"Times have changed, he said. Six years ago the technology was complex.
Certification was important because it told an employer and customers that
the certified professional could find his way around complicated networks.
But now networks are easier to install and maintain.
"Now they've dumbed it down to the point where a 12-year-old can install a
Cisco router," Mazurek said.

Mazurek says that he pays little attention to certification when he is
hiring. It is experience that matters to him.



- A 12 year old, huh?

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> From the web...just posted for dicussion fodder, I'm not making any
> statements here or trying to discourage anyone...
>
>
http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid7_gci8434
00,00.html




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Re: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]

2002-08-08 Thread Robert D. Cluett

"I will be a CCIE before I die"? Man, is that how we look at this?

""Vogel Matthew GS-11 CFAO/IRMD""  wrote in
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> I would like to add my 2 cents on this topic as well.  This is a debate
that
> I have heard over and over and the answer is that it depends on the
> individual person and what they wish to achieve with a CCIE certification.
> A couple of points need to be made.
>
> 1. Certifications, including the CCIE, are not a guarantee of a job or a
> particular salary.  I am studying for the CCIE now and everyone tells me
> that I am going to make six figures when I get my cert.  I do not believe
> that that will happen and I am not getting my cert for the money.  I work
> for the government for less than my peers and will continue to do so after
I
> get my cert.  A government job has great benefits and good job security.
I
> also get to go home at 4:30 everyday.
>
> 2. Certification does not mean you know it all.  True the CCIE is the
> pinnacle of Cisco certs but is does not mean you know it all.  There are
> many more topics that are not covered in the CCIE that a person may not
have
> knowledge of.  That is why there are multiple CCIE tracks.
>
> 3. Continuing one's education is never a bad thing.   In the networking
> world things change by the day.  Working toward a cert and staying
certified
> is a good way to force yourself to stay up with the technology.
>
> 4. Better to have the cert than not to.  If you are applying for a job and
> their are two other candidates with the same experience level and training
> but you have a CCIE cert and they do not, who do you think is going to get
> the job?  In today's job market every little bit helps.  For ever person I
> have heard say it did not make a difference when they got hired, I know
> three more people that say a cert did make the difference.  I know that my
> certs, MCSE, CCNP, and CCDA helped me get my current job right after Sept.
> 11.
>
> Like I said, it boils down to each individual making a decision.
Personally
> I am not going for the CCIE for the money or a job.  I already have both.
> The payback for me in the knowledge that I got the cert when others said I
> could not.  The prestige is also a good thing.  To me it does not matter
how
> long or how much money it takes, I will be a CCIE before I die.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: McHugh Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]
>
>
> I am not so sure it is worth it. I had a CCNP, CCDP, and experience as a
> network engineer and was out of work for almost an entire year. I think it
> is only worth it for the challenge and if you really love it , becuase
your
> going to have to put so much time and effort into passing the lab unless
> your willing to make a huge sacrifice and really enjoy it then just not
> going to be fun. Just my  2 cents.




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Re: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]

2002-08-08 Thread Robert D. Cluett

True, rather than a database, it might be benificial to allow for links to
personal sites whereby a brief synopsis of skills and such can be
locatedjust an idea...I have time...no job!
""Jim Brown""  wrote in message
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> You guys are talking about a lot or work and we all know Paul has other
> things to do besides gathering and maintaining data on list members.
>
> In a perfect world it would be great to have the information suggested
> below, but someone has to expend the time and effort. I know it won't be
me,
> I need to study so I can fail my next attempt. ;-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 3:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]
>
>
> I agree.
>
> Mike W.
>
> "David j"  wrote in message
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> > Yes, I agree but only if it's voluntary...
> > Robert D. Cluett wrote:
> > >
> > > It would be nice to know where each member is located and what
> > > there level
> > > of knowledge/certification is.  I wonder if we could request
> > > this to be
> > > added to the site.  Maybe member profiles or something.  Anyone
> > > agree?




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Re: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]

2002-08-08 Thread Robert D. Cluett

It would be nice to know where each member is located and what there level
of knowledge/certification is.  I wonder if we could request this to be
added to the site.  Maybe member profiles or something.  Anyone agree?

""Mark W. Odette II""  wrote in message
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> John- Just out of curiosity, where are you in Texas?
>
> Just trying to get a real gauge of where the work is and isn't across
> the state.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John McCartney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]
>
> "I don't believe that someone with no cisco experience can pass all 4
> exams in 9 days. I would say that it is impossible unless he had the
> answers to the test. "
>
>
> Robert I agree with you, no way unless you are really lucky at guessing.
> I
> have one more exam left to get my CCNP and I've been doing this for 3
> years
> on/off. You said you got some calls after getting the CCNA - what city
> are
> you in? Here in TX thee is nothinggood luck on the CCNP.




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Re: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]

2002-08-08 Thread Robert D. Cluett

I'm trying for the 1 a month scenario myself.

""Michael Williams""  wrote in message
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> Robert D. Cluett wrote:
> > I don't believe that someone with no cisco experience can pass
> > all 4
> > exams in 9 days.  I would say that it is impossible unless he
> > had the
> > answers to the test.
>
> Or a photographic memory =)
>
> Seriously though, my brother-in-law and I started CCNA around the same
time
> period a few years ago.  I was studying and taking CCNP exams about
one
> a month.  He had some time on his hands, as he was waiting to start a new
> job, and so he studied and took all 4 CCNP exams and the CID afterward and
> finished CCNP/CCDP.  He did this within about 10 days.  So it can be
> done by sheer memory and understanding.  My only concern though is whether
> the retention is there.
>
> OSPF wrote:
> > But you can not pass CCIE written with the same way.
> > I know a guy who pass all 4 exams of CCNP within 9 days. But he
> > can not get a good job because actually he don't know how to creat
> > secret password. MCSE is in the same sintuation. But you can not
> > pass CCIE written with the same way.
>
> I thought the CCIE written was challenging, but it also can fall victim to
> the "pro exam taker" that just wants to pass the exam.  I think what keeps
> CCIE from losing it's value is the lab
>
> Mike W




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Re: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]

2002-08-08 Thread Robert D. Cluett

I live in Boston.  Nothing came of the calls, aside from 1 interview.  But I
have certianly noticed that the interest change when I added the CCNA to my
resume.

""John McCartney""  wrote in message
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> "I don't believe that someone with no cisco experience can pass all 4
> exams in 9 days. I would say that it is impossible unless he had the
> answers to the test. "
>
>
> Robert I agree with you, no way unless you are really lucky at guessing. I
> have one more exam left to get my CCNP and I've been doing this for 3
years
> on/off. You said you got some calls after getting the CCNA - what city are
> you in? Here in TX thee is nothinggood luck on the CCNP.




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Re: Cisco Press OSPF? [7:50567]

2002-08-03 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Nope, don't have the TCP/IP Volume 1 yet.  I assumed that it would be no
more detailed than the BSCN book.  If it is comprehensive, do you also feel
it is a better fit than the other two OSPF books by Cisco?
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> Do you already have Routing TCP/IP, Volume 1 by Doyle? It does a great job
> with OSPF.
>
> Priscilla
>
> Robert D. Cluett wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Looking for a book that will cover OSPF in detail outside of
> > the BSCN book.
> > I recently purchased "Internet Routing Architectures" to give
> > me more
> > detailed knowledge of BGP, but need to round out the OSPF with
> > another book.
> > Any advice?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rob Cluett, CCNA




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Re: BGP Route Reflectors? [7:50573]

2002-08-03 Thread Robert D. Cluett

I guess that one must look at IBGP and EBGP as two different protocols
then...I think that is where a lot of my confusion has come in!  Thanks to
everyone for the help.

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> Robert,
>
> At 03:48 PM 8/3/2002 +, Robert D. Cluett wrote:
> >Wow...making sense now!  One more question...
> >
> >So an IBGP session as stated in the book, is made by use of the neighbor
> >command.  Either, you have your directly connected neighbors defined in
each
> >router or, you have the use of route reflectors?  The only way you can
> >defined a neighbor that is more than one hop (router) away is by using
the
> >multihop command?  Is this true?
>
> IBGP does not require the use of multihop and indeed, it is quite normal
> for IBGP neighbors to be more than one hop away.  Most folks peer to
> loopback address which eliminates the possibility of directly connected
> IBGP connections.  EBGP on the other hand assumes link local connectivity
> and sends packets with a TTL of 1.  Mutlihop allows you to extend the
value
> of the TTL beyond 1 toward 254 to allow for non link local peering.
>
>
>
>
> >You can tell I have never seen BGP in a production environment (BGP is
> >drastically different than what I am used to being, OSPF).
> >
> >""YASSER ALY""  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > The statement in the book means that either all IBGP peers are fully
> > > meshed ( which is a logical mesh not mandatory a physical one ), or
use
> > > Route Reflectors to reduce the number of IBGP sessions needed.
> > >
> > >   For example, if you have 10 routers that want to run IBGP over,
those
> > > 10 routers doesn't have to have direct physical connections from each
> > > router to the others to initiate this Full Mesh - logical - IBGP
> > > sessions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Another example, we can have a full logical IBGP sessions between
those
> > > 3 routers
> > >
> > > which are Ra-Rb, Ra-Rc, Rb-Rc while not having a full physical mesh
( Ra
> > > & Rc are not directly physically connected together )
> > >
> > > RouterA--RouterB---RouterC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Group,
> > >
> > > > >In reading the BSCN book, I have stumbled across something
confusing
> > > when it >is discussing "route reflectors". The books states that the
use
> > > of route >reflectors eliminates the need to run BGP in a full mesh
> > > environment. Based >on this statement I have assumed that BGP
therefore
> > > must be configured only >on a network that is fully meshed (unless
route
> > > reflectors are used). Is >this true? > >Robert D. Cluett, CCNA > > > >
> > > misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> >
> 
> > >
> > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here




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Re: BGP Route Reflectors? [7:50573]

2002-08-03 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Wow...making sense now!  One more question...

So an IBGP session as stated in the book, is made by use of the neighbor
command.  Either, you have your directly connected neighbors defined in each
router or, you have the use of route reflectors?  The only way you can
defined a neighbor that is more than one hop (router) away is by using the
multihop command?  Is this true?

You can tell I have never seen BGP in a production environment (BGP is
drastically different than what I am used to being, OSPF).

""YASSER ALY""  wrote in message
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> The statement in the book means that either all IBGP peers are fully
> meshed ( which is a logical mesh not mandatory a physical one ), or use
> Route Reflectors to reduce the number of IBGP sessions needed.
>
>   For example, if you have 10 routers that want to run IBGP over, those
> 10 routers doesn't have to have direct physical connections from each
> router to the others to initiate this Full Mesh - logical - IBGP
> sessions.
>
>
>
>  Another example, we can have a full logical IBGP sessions between those
> 3 routers
>
> which are Ra-Rb, Ra-Rc, Rb-Rc while not having a full physical mesh ( Ra
> & Rc are not directly physically connected together )
>
> RouterA--RouterB---RouterC
>
>
>
>
>
> >Group,
>
> > >In reading the BSCN book, I have stumbled across something confusing
> when it >is discussing "route reflectors". The books states that the use
> of route >reflectors eliminates the need to run BGP in a full mesh
> environment. Based >on this statement I have assumed that BGP therefore
> must be configured only >on a network that is fully meshed (unless route
> reflectors are used). Is >this true? > >Robert D. Cluett, CCNA > > > >
> misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 
>
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here




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Re: BGP Route Reflectors? [7:50573]

2002-08-03 Thread Robert D. Cluett

So an IBGP router within a network must be fully meshed with all other IBGP
routers in the network.  If the scenarios was such that I had 5 edge routers
running both IBGP and OSPF, and 40 others routers somewhere in the middle of
these running only OSPF, that I would need all 5 IBGP routers to be fully
meshed?  Physically fully meshed ot logically fully meshed?

""Robert D. Cluett""  wrote in message
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> Group,
>
> In reading the BSCN book, I have stumbled across something confusing when
it
> is discussing "route reflectors".  The books states that the use of route
> reflectors eliminates the need to run BGP in a full mesh environment.
Based
> on this statement I have assumed that BGP therefore must be configured
only
> on a network that is fully meshed (unless route reflectors are used). Is
> this true?
>
> Robert D. Cluett, CCNA




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BGP Route Reflectors? [7:50573]

2002-08-02 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Group,

In reading the BSCN book, I have stumbled across something confusing when it
is discussing "route reflectors".  The books states that the use of route
reflectors eliminates the need to run BGP in a full mesh environment.  Based
on this statement I have assumed that BGP therefore must be configured only
on a network that is fully meshed (unless route reflectors are used). Is
this true?

Robert D. Cluett, CCNA




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Cisco Press OSPF? [7:50567]

2002-08-02 Thread Robert D. Cluett

All,

Looking for a book that will cover OSPF in detail outside of the BSCN book.
I recently purchased "Internet Routing Architectures" to give me more
detailed knowledge of BGP, but need to round out the OSPF with another book.
Any advice?

Thanks
Rob Cluett, CCNA




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Re: BGP Attributes [7:50248]

2002-07-31 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Understood.  Thank you for correcting me.  As I said, I too am diving into
this!

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> ""Robert D. Cluett""  wrote in message
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> > I am just getting into BGP and I understand it like this.  An update can
> > carry all or some of the attributes with it which define the route to
the
> > destination.  There is a pecking order of what attributes determine what
> > route will be utilized.  So if you were to look inside of a BGP update
> > packet you will see the mandatory attributes being AS-PATH, Next-Hop and
> > Orign (these are mandatory so they will alway be in the packet).  The
> > discretionary and optional attributes may or may not be there.  When
> > updating the BGP table these attributes are analyzed and then the route
is
> > chosen to the destination.  Remember that a router will send an update
> > packet to you.  It is adding the AS that is passes through to the
AS_PATH
> > field.  This is one of the requirements in order to have a route to a
> > destination.  Next_Hop (IP Address) is also a requirement so you know
> where
> > to go next.  Origin defines what AS this update came from.
>
> Actually, this in incorrect.  The Origin attribute has nothing to do with
> what AS the route comes from.  It has to do with how the route in question
> was passed into BGP.
>
> The best reference for path-attributes is still, the one and only,
RFC1771.
> Anybody who really really wants to understand BGP must read this.
>
> > I re-read the
> > chapter 3 times and have it cold now!  I typically re-read and it clears
> > everything up that I missed.
> >
> > ""maine dude""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi  I'm having problems on understanding how attributes work. I
> understand
> > > what they are there for but when questions come up I am unable to
relate
> > the
> > > question to what I understand when I read the book. Are there any
> simpler
> > > guides available. I have the same problem with prefix-lists. -DJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.
> > >
> > > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail_storage.html




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Re: cisco's exams [7:50295]

2002-07-31 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Does anyone know the number?  I know the Cisco Practice exams have about 350
or so.
""Mark W. Odette II""  wrote in message
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> Pulled from a pool of around 1000 questions (the number may not be
> correct, but its quite a large pool).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kim miroy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: cisco's exams [7:50295]
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know if Cisco's exams are pulled from a pool of questions or
> if
> all the questions on one particular exam will be the exact same set of
> questions for someone else writing the same exam?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> :-) k




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Re: cisco's exams [7:50295]

2002-07-31 Thread Robert D. Cluett

They are randomly pulled from a pool.
""kim miroy""  wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know if Cisco's exams are pulled from a pool of questions or
if
> all the questions on one particular exam will be the exact same set of
> questions for someone else writing the same exam?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> :-) k




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Re: BGP Attributes [7:50248]

2002-07-31 Thread Robert D. Cluett

I am just getting into BGP and I understand it like this.  An update can
carry all or some of the attributes with it which define the route to the
destination.  There is a pecking order of what attributes determine what
route will be utilized.  So if you were to look inside of a BGP update
packet you will see the mandatory attributes being AS-PATH, Next-Hop and
Orign (these are mandatory so they will alway be in the packet).  The
discretionary and optional attributes may or may not be there.  When
updating the BGP table these attributes are analyzed and then the route is
chosen to the destination.  Remember that a router will send an update
packet to you.  It is adding the AS that is passes through to the AS_PATH
field.  This is one of the requirements in order to have a route to a
destination.  Next_Hop (IP Address) is also a requirement so you know where
to go next.  Origin defines what AS this update came from.  I re-read the
chapter 3 times and have it cold now!  I typically re-read and it clears
everything up that I missed.

""maine dude""  wrote in message
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> Hi  I'm having problems on understanding how attributes work. I understand
> what they are there for but when questions come up I am unable to relate
the
> question to what I understand when I read the book. Are there any simpler
> guides available. I have the same problem with prefix-lists. -DJ
>
>
>
> -
> Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.
>
> http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail_storage.html




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Re: CCIE number [7:50203]

2002-07-30 Thread Robert D. Cluett

To the original question.  His name is ".." as listed. I guess it seemed as
if that was directed towards you, but this was not the case.  Sorry.

""nrf""  wrote in message
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> Was there a point in the original question?  So why exactly does there
have
> to be a point in my answer?
>
>
> ""Robert D. Cluett""  wrote in message
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> > .., what is your point?
> >
> > ""nrf""  wrote in message
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> > > Yes, suffice it to say that there are some CCIE's that like to
maintain
> a
> > > cloaked identity.
> > >
> > >
> > > "". .""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Just out of curiosity.
> > > >
> > > > Any CCIE that does not use their CCIE number in their signature?
> > > >
> > > > Once again, there is no point that I am trying to show. I am just
> > curious
> > > >
> > > > _
> > > > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> > > > http://www.hotmail.com




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Re: multicast address [7:50221]

2002-07-30 Thread Robert D. Cluett

INTERNET MULTICAST ADDRESSES

Host Extensions for IP Multicasting [RFC1112] specifies the
extensions required of a host implementation of the Internet Protocol
(IP) to support multicasting.  Current addresses are listed below.

224.0.0.0  Base Address (Reserved)   [RFC1112,JBP]
224.0.0.1  All Systems on this Subnet[RFC1112,JBP]
224.0.0.2  All Routers on this Subnet[JBP]
224.0.0.3  Unassigned[JBP]
224.0.0.4  DVMRPRouters  [RFC1075,JBP]
224.0.0.5  OSPFIGP  OSPFIGP All Routers [RFC1583,JXM1]
224.0.0.6  OSPFIGP  OSPFIGP Designated Routers  [RFC1583,JXM1]
224.0.0.7  ST Routers   [RFC1190,KS14]
224.0.0.8  ST Hosts [RFC1190,KS14]
224.0.0.9  RIP2 Routers[GSM11]
224.0.0.10 IGRP Routers   [Dino Farinacci]
224.0.0.11 Mobile-Agents[Bill Simpson]
224.0.0.12-224.0.0.255 Unassigned[JBP]
224.0.1.0  VMTP Managers Group  [RFC1045,DRC3]
224.0.1.1  NTP  Network Time Protocol   [RFC1119,DLM1]
224.0.1.2  SGI-Dogfight  [AXC]
224.0.1.3  Rwhod [SXD]
224.0.1.4  VNP  [DRC3]
224.0.1.5  Artificial Horizons - Aviator [BXF]
224.0.1.6  NSS - Name Service Server[BXS2]
224.0.1.7  AUDIONEWS - Audio News Multicast [MXF2]
224.0.1.8  SUN NIS+ Information Service [CXM3]
224.0.1.9  MTP Multicast Transport Protocol  [SXA]
224.0.1.10 IETF-1-LOW-AUDIO  [SC3]
224.0.1.11 IETF-1-AUDIO  [SC3]
224.0.1.12 IETF-1-VIDEO  [SC3]
224.0.1.13 IETF-2-LOW-AUDIO  [SC3]
224.0.1.14 IETF-2-AUDIO  [SC3]
224.0.1.15 IETF-2-VIDEO  [SC3]
224.0.1.16 MUSIC-SERVICE[Guido van Rossum]
224.0.1.17 SEANET-TELEMETRY[Andrew Maffei]
224.0.1.18 SEANET-IMAGE[Andrew Maffei]
224.0.1.19 MLOADD [Braden]
224.0.1.20 any private experiment[JBP]
224.0.1.21 DVMRP on MOSPF   [John Moy]
224.0.1.22 SVRLOC   
224.0.1.23 XINGTV 
224.0.1.24 microsoft-ds
224.0.1.25 nbc-pro  
224.0.1.26 nbc-pfn  
224.0.1.27-224.0.1.255  Unassigned   [JBP]
224.0.2.1  "rwho" Group (BSD) (unofficial)   [JBP]
224.0.2.2  SUN RPC PMAPPROC_CALLIT  [BXE1]
224.0.3.000-224.0.3.255 RFE Generic Service [DXS3]
224.0.4.000-224.0.4.255 RFE Individual Conferences  [DXS3]
224.0.5.000-224.0.5.127 CDPD Groups  [Bob Brenner]
224.0.5.128-224.0.5.255 Unassigned  [IANA]
224.0.6.000-224.0.6.127 Cornell ISIS Project   [Tim Clark]
224.0.6.128-224.0.6.255 Unassigned  [IANA]
224.1.0.0-224.1.255.255  ST Multicast Groups[RFC1190,KS14]
224.2.0.0-224.2.255.255  Multimedia Conference Calls [SC3]
224.252.0.0-224.255.255.255 DIS transient groups [Joel Snyder]
232.0.0.0-232.255.255.255  VMTP transient groups[RFC1045,DRC3]

These addresses are listed in the Domain Name Service under MCAST.NET
and 224.IN-ADDR.ARPA.

Note that when used on an Ethernet or IEEE 802 network, the 23
low-order bits of the IP Multicast address are placed in the low-order
23 bits of the Ethernet or IEEE 802 net multicast address
1.0.94.0.0.0.  See the next section on "IANA ETHERNET ADDRESS BLOCK".


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> Where can I find the multicast address , rip, irgp use.?
> I know Ospf is 224.0.5 & 224.0.6




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Re: Technical Writing [7:50077]

2002-07-30 Thread Robert D. Cluett

But know this...in college I was accused of plagerism only because I did
what you are describing.  Keep in mind that even if you use someone elses
idea (and I am not talking about re-wording) you still are required to site
it, else it is still plagerism.  BUT of note, the teacher sucked and was out
to get me.  When you talk about 1's and 0's in College Writting teachers
become confused and assume that you must have ripped off someone elses work!

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> Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
> >
> > Sometimes I will copy a relevant article, putting it into
> > colored
>
> That's kind of the dirty little secret of tech writers, i.e. that we
> sometimes start with someone else's work. ;-) Putting it in colored text
is
> an excellent idea, though, because it reminds you to fix it. Borrowing
> somebody else's work and not putting it in your own words is plagiarism. I
> get truly disgusted when I see entire paragraphs from CCO in a document
with
> someone else's name on it. (This has never happened with Howard's work;
I'm
> just making the comment.)
>
> > text, and rewrite it until it's totally in my words and
> > properly
> > linked into the rest of my flow.
>
> Rewriting is very important, not just to avoid plagiarism. A lot of Cisco
> material is as dry as unsalted wheat thins. Also, the writers don't do
what
> Howard mentioned about getting to the core Zen real meaning. Instead, they
> makes lots of assumptions about the reader's understanding and focus on
the
> "what" and "how," rather than the "why." I am actually unable to read some
> Cisco Press books because of this. Bullets that describe products or
product
> features, for example, don't help me learn . I have to know why they
matter
> and why you would use them. Howard is very good at explaining the whys.
>
> OK, that's all for now. ;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> > I do this not infrequently
> > with
> > CertZone papers, where I take a section out of CCO and...trying
> > to be
> > polite...rewrite it into intelligible and flowing English.




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Re: multicast address [7:50221]

2002-07-30 Thread Robert D. Cluett

You mean 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6.  Of note, not all Routing protocols are
multicast, and thus would not have a multicast address such as OSPF.

Robert D. Cluett, CCNA
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> Where can I find the multicast address , rip, irgp use.?
> I know Ospf is 224.0.5 & 224.0.6




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Re: CCIE number [7:50203]

2002-07-30 Thread Robert D. Cluett

.., what is your point?

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> cloaked identity.
>
>
> "". .""  wrote in message
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> > Just out of curiosity.
> >
> > Any CCIE that does not use their CCIE number in their signature?
> >
> > Once again, there is no point that I am trying to show. I am just
curious
> >
> > _
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Re: CCIE Experiences? My Road Ahead... [7:50139]

2002-07-30 Thread Robert D. Cluett

All, thank you for your input.  I have the confidence that I can do it, yet
when looking at the list of technologies I am required to know, it seems a
little overwhelming.  I do feel that with the hands on, and understanding of
OSPF that I already have, that it has made the study material absorb much
easier.  Thank you!

""Henry D.""  wrote in message
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> Robert,
>
> In 1999 when I started looking into CCNA cert I didn't know much about
> switching, routing or Cisco equipment all together. I decided to go thru
> CCNP/CCDP
> tracks, as my experience was very limited. By late 2001 and after few
tries
> at the lab
> I got my number. It doesn't require all those years of experience. Having
> few
> years of working with the gear and some protocols already,
> should really help you out. With some dedication and support you can
achieve
> CCIE status within a year or so if you got what it takes :-)
>
> And as others have mentioned, this is just a beginning..
>
> ""Robert D. Cluett""  wrote in message
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> > All (CCIE's and CCIE Written)
> >
> > I was wondering if you could help me understand what it is I am in for.
I
> > have 3 years of experience at tier 3 IP support with Verizon.  OSPF
> mostly.
> > I have experience with various Cisco and Nortel routers and switches.
My
> > question is this, knowing OSPF and circuit troublshooting is excellent
> > knowledge, but I know that is only a fraction of what the CCIE demands.
I
> > recently passed the CCNA, and have jumped into the studying for the
> routing
> > exam.  The only thing which seems tough is the BGP (I have not touched
it
> > before).  So, my question is, what can I expect from this road ahead.
Is
> it
> > feasable to eventually obtain my CCIE or is the CCIE for those people
who
> > have the 10 years of experience working for an ISP?  Any advice would
> help!
> >
> > Rob Cluett, CCNA




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CCIE Experiences? My Road Ahead... [7:50139]

2002-07-30 Thread Robert D. Cluett

All (CCIE's and CCIE Written)

I was wondering if you could help me understand what it is I am in for.  I
have 3 years of experience at tier 3 IP support with Verizon.  OSPF mostly.
I have experience with various Cisco and Nortel routers and switches.  My
question is this, knowing OSPF and circuit troublshooting is excellent
knowledge, but I know that is only a fraction of what the CCIE demands.  I
recently passed the CCNA, and have jumped into the studying for the routing
exam.  The only thing which seems tough is the BGP (I have not touched it
before).  So, my question is, what can I expect from this road ahead.  Is it
feasable to eventually obtain my CCIE or is the CCIE for those people who
have the 10 years of experience working for an ISP?  Any advice would help!

Rob Cluett, CCNA




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Re: OSPF Routing [7:49982]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Did this solve your problem?

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> No i did not, I completely forgot that.
>
> Would that be the cause of this routing issue ?
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Robert D. Cluett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, 29 July 2002 3:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OSPF Routing [7:49982]
>
>
> Question,
>
> Do you have the "ip classless" command on both routers?
>
> ""John Brandis""  wrote in message
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> > Hi All,
> >
> > Got 2 routers back 2 back working.
> >
> > RouterA:
> > int s0   192.168.10.1/24
> > int e0   192.168.7.1/24
> > int loopback 0 192.168.70.1/24
> >
> > routerb:
> > int s1  192.168.10.2/24
> > int e0  192.168.3.1/24
> > int loopback 0 192.168.30.1/24
> >
> > I try to use ospf routing in summary on each router by
> >
> > router ospf 20
> > network 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
> >
> > However, I outside of directly connected subnets using that. To have
full
> > conectivity to the network, I have to have on for example router a
> >
> > router ospf 20
> > network 192.168.10.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > network 192.168.7.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> >
> > then my routes will work. Should I not be able to simply use a summary
of
> > 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0 on both routers thus enabling me to all
the
> > routes ? Or is it part of OSPF that all the networks that I wish to
> > distribute must be defined on each router ?
> >
> > Thanks all
> >
> > John Brandis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **
> >
> > visit http://www.solution6.com
> > visit http://www.eccountancy.com - everything for accountants.
> >
> > UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk
> >
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Re: ADSL - unable to reach URL's [7:50068]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Be sure that he is allowing the DNS port through on the DSL router.
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> I have been setting up a DSL connection for a home user, but he is
currently
> unable to reach ANY website. I am able to ping IP addresses of servers on
> the internet and get a reply. But, neither IE nor Netscape is able to
reach
> a single page (via IP or Name).
>
> The DHCP servers gives his adapter an IP address and gateway of the same
> address. The subnet is a /24. He is using the PPPoE adapter and no router
or
> firewall exists at his site. I hardcoded the DNS server addresses to
ensure
> DNS name resolution, but this did not fix anything.
>
> If you have any recommendations please reply. This should be a simple task
> to complete, but obviously I am missing something.
>
> Thanks




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Re: Looking for BSCN in PDF format [7:50039]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Jeff, there are a lot of cisco authors on this site.  Be forewarned!

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> Does anyone have a copy of BSCN in pdf format that they wouldn't mind
> sharing.
>
>
> thanks
>
>
> Jeff




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Re: Can't Disable Spanning Tree on 2980G [7:50009]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Turn debugging on for spanning tree.  See what results you get.

""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> Our LAN people have worked on it a lot and have never found a resolution
> to the Dell NIC issue.
>
> I'm starting not to trust the output of the 'show spantree' command
> because it's showing conflicting information.  In addition, there are
> other ports that don't show up in the output that still appear to be
> running STP.  I've decided to quit worrying about it and I'll reboot it
> later.  In the interim we've found another solution for the few users
> with Dell PCs.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> >>> Daniel Cotts  7/29/02 9:55:17 AM >>>
> With portfast disabled how long does it take for an interface to come
> on
> line? Can you test to see if it is sending BPDUs out those interfaces?
> I'm
> wondering if in fact spanning tree is disabled but "forwarding" is just
> how
> a connected port is identified.
> I'm not familiar with the 2980. Is each port explicitly an access port
> or a
> trunk port as in the 2924XL or can a user port also have trunking
> preferences like the 5500s? (set trunk auto/desireable/off/etc) On set
> based
> switches best to turn trunking off on user interfaces.
> Any way to attack the problem from the Dell side? Drivers? 3rd party
> NIC?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 9:52 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Can't Disable Spanning Tree on 2980G [7:50009]
> >
> >
> > I have an interesting problem that I'm not able to resolve.  On a
> > particular 2980G I need to completely disable spanning tree.  After
> > issuing the command 'set spantree disable all' I would expect
> > not to see
> > any ports participating in STP.  However, look at this:
> >
> > SCORP0201-A> (enable) show spantree
> > VLAN 1
> > Spanning tree disabled
> >
> > Bridge ID MAC ADDR  00-08-e2-b3-8c-00
> > Bridge ID Priority  32768
> > Bridge Max Age 20 sec   Hello Time 2  sec   Forward Delay 15 sec
> >
> > Port Vlan Port-StateCost  Prio Portfast
> > Channel_id
> >   - -  
> > --
> >  3/1 1not-connected   100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/2 1not-connected   100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/3 1forwarding  100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/4 1forwarding  100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/5 1not-connected   100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/6 1not-connected   100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/7 1not-connected   100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/8 1not-connected   100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/9 1forwarding  100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/101forwarding  100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/111not-connected   100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/121not-connected   100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/131not-connected   100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> >  3/141not-connected   100   32
> > disabled 0
> >
> > --More--
> >
> > Initially it says that STP on VLAN1 is disabled, but then goes on to
> > show several ports in VLAN 1 that are still running spanning
> > tree.  STP
> > was successfully disabled on the other VLANs but I just can't get
> this
> > to go away and we really need to get this done thanks to another
> > annoying issue that no one has resolved yet.
> >
> > We have certain Dell machines that will BSOD if the network isn't
> > immediately available.  STP portfast isn't fast enough so I've been
> > disabling STP altogether.
> >
> > Any thoughts on this?  Am I missing something very obvious?  I've
> > checked CCO and there appears to be no STP-related bugs on the 2948.
>
> > Unfortunately, they don't have separate info for the 2980G.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: Ping latency [7:50018]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

What type of device?
What layer 2 protocol?  PPP or HDLC?
What is the source and destination of the ping?
""DW""  wrote in message
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> I am running 2 WAN links through the same router and have been have
session
> disconnect problems recently. I have been running several ping tests
across
> both of the links (128K FR and 512K Leased line) and they are both showing
> response times fluctuating from 30ms to 1400ms (No dropped packets). I
> believe this is the root of the problem. What could be causing this delay
> through the router ??? The memory and processor usage looks to be within
> tolerable limits. I am also assuming this kind of delay is not normal,
would
> I be right ??
>
> All answers appreciated !




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Re: Can't Disable Spanning Tree on 2980G [7:50009]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Sounds like it is a normal condition after all. Hence, when STP is turned
off, all ports will be forwarding.
""Henry D.""  wrote in message
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> John,
>
> It might be just a display issue on the switch, I just checked couple of
my
> 6500's and for the VLAN's that have the STP disabled with active ports
> I see the same results. I think when you plug in a laptop to any available
> port
> on the same VLAN you'll see that it doesn't go thru STP phases and
> automatically
> goes into forwarding...
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I have an interesting problem that I'm not able to resolve.  On a
> > particular 2980G I need to completely disable spanning tree.  After
> > issuing the command 'set spantree disable all' I would expect not to see
> > any ports participating in STP.  However, look at this:
> >
> > SCORP0201-A> (enable) show spantree
> > VLAN 1
> > Spanning tree disabled
> >
> > Bridge ID MAC ADDR  00-08-e2-b3-8c-00
> > Bridge ID Priority  32768
> > Bridge Max Age 20 sec   Hello Time 2  sec   Forward Delay 15 sec
> >
> > Port Vlan Port-StateCost  Prio Portfast
> > Channel_id
> >   - -  
> > --
> >  3/1 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/2 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/3 1forwarding  100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/4 1forwarding  100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/5 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/6 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/7 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/8 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/9 1forwarding  100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/101forwarding  100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/111not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/121not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/131not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
> >
> >  3/141not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
> >
> > --More--
> >
> > Initially it says that STP on VLAN1 is disabled, but then goes on to
> > show several ports in VLAN 1 that are still running spanning tree.  STP
> > was successfully disabled on the other VLANs but I just can't get this
> > to go away and we really need to get this done thanks to another
> > annoying issue that no one has resolved yet.
> >
> > We have certain Dell machines that will BSOD if the network isn't
> > immediately available.  STP portfast isn't fast enough so I've been
> > disabling STP altogether.
> >
> > Any thoughts on this?  Am I missing something very obvious?  I've
> > checked CCO and there appears to be no STP-related bugs on the 2948.
> > Unfortunately, they don't have separate info for the 2980G.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John




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RE: Can't Disable Spanning Tree on 2980G [7:50009]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Is this device the root bridge of the spanning tree?  What other devices are
attached?

Robert D. Cluett
978.282.9584

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Can't Disable Spanning Tree on 2980G [7:50009]


All connected ports are in the forwarding state, which is odd because
just a few lines above in the output you can see that STP is disabled
for this VLAN.

>>> "Robert D. Cluett"  7/29/02 9:48:59 AM >>>
Are any of the ports blocking?  Are all forwarding.  I have little
experience with spanning tree, but I wonder if this condition is
normal.  Do
you have other devices that you can compare this to?

Robert D. Cluett, CCNA
978.282.9584

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't Disable Spanning Tree on 2980G [7:50009]


Nope.  We don't have a service contract on this box and this doesn't
appear to be a serious issue.  I'll probably end up rebooting the
switch
but I'd rather not since it has a few users now.  That might be the
only
temporary fix, though.  Nothing else has worked so far.

Thanks,
John

>>> "Robert D. Cluett"  7/29/02 9:12:19 AM >>>
Have you opened a TAC case with Cisco?
""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> I have an interesting problem that I'm not able to resolve.  On a
> particular 2980G I need to completely disable spanning tree.  After
> issuing the command 'set spantree disable all' I would expect not to
see
> any ports participating in STP.  However, look at this:
>
> SCORP0201-A> (enable) show spantree
> VLAN 1
> Spanning tree disabled
>
> Bridge ID MAC ADDR  00-08-e2-b3-8c-00
> Bridge ID Priority  32768
> Bridge Max Age 20 sec   Hello Time 2  sec   Forward Delay 15 sec
>
> Port Vlan Port-StateCost  Prio Portfast
> Channel_id
>   - -  
> --
>  3/1 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/2 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/3 1forwarding  100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/4 1forwarding  100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/5 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/6 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/7 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/8 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/9 1forwarding  100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/101forwarding  100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/111not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/121not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/131not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/141not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
> --More--
>
> Initially it says that STP on VLAN1 is disabled, but then goes on to
> show several ports in VLAN 1 that are still running spanning tree.
STP
> was successfully disabled on the other VLANs but I just can't get
this
> to go away and we really need to get this done thanks to another
> annoying issue that no one has resolved yet.
>
> We have certain Dell machines that will BSOD if the network isn't
> immediately available.  STP portfast isn't fast enough so I've been
> disabling STP altogether.
>
> Any thoughts on this?  Am I missing something very obvious?  I've
> checked CCO and there appears to be no STP-related bugs on the 2948.
> Unfortunately, they don't have separate info for the 2980G.
>
> Thanks,
> John




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RE: Can't Disable Spanning Tree on 2980G [7:50009]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Are any of the ports blocking?  Are all forwarding.  I have little
experience with spanning tree, but I wonder if this condition is normal.  Do
you have other devices that you can compare this to?

Robert D. Cluett, CCNA
978.282.9584

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't Disable Spanning Tree on 2980G [7:50009]


Nope.  We don't have a service contract on this box and this doesn't
appear to be a serious issue.  I'll probably end up rebooting the switch
but I'd rather not since it has a few users now.  That might be the only
temporary fix, though.  Nothing else has worked so far.

Thanks,
John

>>> "Robert D. Cluett"  7/29/02 9:12:19 AM >>>
Have you opened a TAC case with Cisco?
""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> I have an interesting problem that I'm not able to resolve.  On a
> particular 2980G I need to completely disable spanning tree.  After
> issuing the command 'set spantree disable all' I would expect not to
see
> any ports participating in STP.  However, look at this:
>
> SCORP0201-A> (enable) show spantree
> VLAN 1
> Spanning tree disabled
>
> Bridge ID MAC ADDR  00-08-e2-b3-8c-00
> Bridge ID Priority  32768
> Bridge Max Age 20 sec   Hello Time 2  sec   Forward Delay 15 sec
>
> Port Vlan Port-StateCost  Prio Portfast
> Channel_id
>   - -  
> --
>  3/1 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/2 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/3 1forwarding  100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/4 1forwarding  100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/5 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/6 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/7 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/8 1not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/9 1forwarding  100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/101forwarding  100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/111not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/121not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/131not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
>  3/141not-connected   100   32 disabled
0
>
> --More--
>
> Initially it says that STP on VLAN1 is disabled, but then goes on to
> show several ports in VLAN 1 that are still running spanning tree.
STP
> was successfully disabled on the other VLANs but I just can't get
this
> to go away and we really need to get this done thanks to another
> annoying issue that no one has resolved yet.
>
> We have certain Dell machines that will BSOD if the network isn't
> immediately available.  STP portfast isn't fast enough so I've been
> disabling STP altogether.
>
> Any thoughts on this?  Am I missing something very obvious?  I've
> checked CCO and there appears to be no STP-related bugs on the 2948.
> Unfortunately, they don't have separate info for the 2980G.
>
> Thanks,
> John




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RE: OT...TraceRoute DNS Naming Question [7:50005]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

I am not sure of that.

Robert D. Cluett, CCNA
978.282.9584

-Original Message-
From: Richard Tufaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT...TraceRoute DNS Naming Question [7:50005]


understandable...is there anywhere out there a listing of prefix's for
different ISP's?

>>> "Robert D. Cluett"  07/29 10:45 AM >>>
Each company names their own equipment differently.  The only constants will
be the domian name at the end of the DNS name.

""Richard Tufaro""  wrote in message
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> Hey guys, kinda off topic but I was wondering if anyone knows what the DNS
> names mean when trace routing back from a ISP etc...example..
>
> Does anyone know the Telco's DNS naming convention?? like the
> --->>>>0.so-2-0-0.XL1.
>
> Traceroute Results for bellsouth.com
>
>  1  vlan122.aggr1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.162)  0.897 ms  0.669 ms
0.679
> ms
>  2  vl901.core1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.65)  0.857 ms  0.670 ms  0.667
ms
>  3  ge4-0.edge3.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.39)  0.649 ms  0.564 ms  0.567
ms
>  4  500.POS3-0.GW2.SAT1.ALTER.NET (157.130.128.149)  1.283 ms  1.226 ms
> 1.158 ms
>  5  174.at-6-0-0.XR1.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.101.234)  7.800 ms  7.820 ms
> 7.813 ms
>  6  0.so-2-0-0.XL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.101.253)  7.995 ms  7.920 ms
> 7.961 ms
>  7  0.so-0-0-0.TL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.193)  7.976 ms  8.015 ms
7.852
> ms
>  8  0.so-2-0-0.TL1.ATL5.ALTER.NET (152.63.85.233)  28.380 ms  28.430 ms
> 28.629 ms
>  9  0.so-3-0-0.XL1.ATL5.ALTER.NET (152.63.85.218)  29.519 ms  29.366 ms
> 29.539 ms
> 10  POS6-0.GW11.ATL5.ALTER.NET (152.63.85.169)  28.395 ms  28.343 ms
29.232
> ms
> 11  bellsouth-atl-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.76.238)  30.247 ms
29.971
> ms  29.965 ms
> 12  209.149.96.245 (209.149.96.245)  30.916 ms  30.980 ms  30.547 ms
> 13  205.152.37.86 (205.152.37.86)  30.428 ms  30.388 ms  30.429 ms
>
> Traceroute Results for groupstudy.com
>
>  1  vlan122.aggr1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.162)  13.427 ms  0.660 ms
> 0.616 ms
>  2  vl901.core1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.65)  0.707 ms  0.690 ms  0.657
ms
>  3  ge4-0.edge1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.37)  0.618 ms  0.583 ms  0.568
ms
>  4  hstn01-edge01.tx.inet.qwest.net (63.237.96.153)  6.200 ms  6.211 ms
> 6.138 ms
>  5  hstn01-core01.tx.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.9)  6.415 ms  6.334 ms
> 6.354 ms
>  6  hstn01-core02.tx.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.2)  6.616 ms  6.678 ms
> 6.574 ms
>  7  dlls01-core01.tx.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.125)  11.176 ms  11.118 ms
> 11.216 ms
>  8  dlls01-core02.tx.inet.qwest.net (205.171.25.130)  11.258 ms  11.216 ms
> 11.158 ms
>  9  ksca01-core02.mo.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.142)  22.164 ms  22.154 ms
> 22.117 ms
> 10  ksca01-core01.mo.inet.qwest.net (205.171.29.125)  22.129 ms  22.186 ms
> 22.105 ms
> 11  dnvr07-core01.co.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.137)  32.588 ms  32.612 ms
> 32.597 ms
> 12  dnvr07-core02.co.inet.qwest.net (205.171.142.2)  32.669 ms  32.660 ms
> 36.974 ms
> 13  snva01-core03.ca.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.250)  56.910 ms  56.944 ms
> 56.937 ms
> 14  paix01-brdr02.ca.inet.qwest.net (205.171.205.30)  57.549 ms  57.721 ms
> 57.425 ms
> 15  snfccapaix-qwest-pos.wcg.net (64.200.199.125)  56.102 ms  55.987 ms
> 58.250 ms
> 16  sntcca2lce1-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.210.177)  56.041 ms  56.226 ms
56.059
> ms
> 17  snfcca1wcx2-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.199.73)  56.180 ms  56.525 ms  56.477
ms
> 18  anhmca1wcx3-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.240.1)  68.035 ms  67.910 ms  68.004
ms
> 19  anhmca1wcx1-oc12.wcg.net (64.200.143.70)  68.159 ms  68.438 ms  68.167
ms
> 20  anhmca1wcx1-swifcomm-atm.wcg.net (64.200.142.146)  69.785 ms  69.498
ms
> 69.597 ms
> 21  66.220.40.4 (66.220.40.4)  54.965 ms  55.057 ms  55.232 ms
> 22  groupstudy.com (66.220.63.9)  54.547 ms  55.467 ms  54.702 ms
>
> and
>
>
>
> Richard Tufaro
> Anda Inc. - Weston FL
> Network Warrior - Anda Inc.




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Re: Can't Disable Spanning Tree on 2980G [7:50009]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Have you opened a TAC case with Cisco?
""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> I have an interesting problem that I'm not able to resolve.  On a
> particular 2980G I need to completely disable spanning tree.  After
> issuing the command 'set spantree disable all' I would expect not to see
> any ports participating in STP.  However, look at this:
>
> SCORP0201-A> (enable) show spantree
> VLAN 1
> Spanning tree disabled
>
> Bridge ID MAC ADDR  00-08-e2-b3-8c-00
> Bridge ID Priority  32768
> Bridge Max Age 20 sec   Hello Time 2  sec   Forward Delay 15 sec
>
> Port Vlan Port-StateCost  Prio Portfast
> Channel_id
>   - -  
> --
>  3/1 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/2 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/3 1forwarding  100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/4 1forwarding  100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/5 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/6 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/7 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/8 1not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/9 1forwarding  100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/101forwarding  100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/111not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/121not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/131not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
>
>  3/141not-connected   100   32 disabled 0
>
> --More--
>
> Initially it says that STP on VLAN1 is disabled, but then goes on to
> show several ports in VLAN 1 that are still running spanning tree.  STP
> was successfully disabled on the other VLANs but I just can't get this
> to go away and we really need to get this done thanks to another
> annoying issue that no one has resolved yet.
>
> We have certain Dell machines that will BSOD if the network isn't
> immediately available.  STP portfast isn't fast enough so I've been
> disabling STP altogether.
>
> Any thoughts on this?  Am I missing something very obvious?  I've
> checked CCO and there appears to be no STP-related bugs on the 2948.
> Unfortunately, they don't have separate info for the 2980G.
>
> Thanks,
> John




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Re: OT...TraceRoute DNS Naming Question [7:50005]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Each company names their own equipment differently.  The only constants will
be the domian name at the end of the DNS name.

""Richard Tufaro""  wrote in message
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> Hey guys, kinda off topic but I was wondering if anyone knows what the DNS
> names mean when trace routing back from a ISP etc...example..
>
> Does anyone know the Telco's DNS naming convention?? like the
> ---0.so-2-0-0.XL1.
>
> Traceroute Results for bellsouth.com
>
>  1  vlan122.aggr1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.162)  0.897 ms  0.669 ms
0.679
> ms
>  2  vl901.core1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.65)  0.857 ms  0.670 ms  0.667
ms
>  3  ge4-0.edge3.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.39)  0.649 ms  0.564 ms  0.567
ms
>  4  500.POS3-0.GW2.SAT1.ALTER.NET (157.130.128.149)  1.283 ms  1.226 ms
> 1.158 ms
>  5  174.at-6-0-0.XR1.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.101.234)  7.800 ms  7.820 ms
> 7.813 ms
>  6  0.so-2-0-0.XL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.101.253)  7.995 ms  7.920 ms
> 7.961 ms
>  7  0.so-0-0-0.TL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.193)  7.976 ms  8.015 ms
7.852
> ms
>  8  0.so-2-0-0.TL1.ATL5.ALTER.NET (152.63.85.233)  28.380 ms  28.430 ms
> 28.629 ms
>  9  0.so-3-0-0.XL1.ATL5.ALTER.NET (152.63.85.218)  29.519 ms  29.366 ms
> 29.539 ms
> 10  POS6-0.GW11.ATL5.ALTER.NET (152.63.85.169)  28.395 ms  28.343 ms
29.232
> ms
> 11  bellsouth-atl-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.76.238)  30.247 ms
29.971
> ms  29.965 ms
> 12  209.149.96.245 (209.149.96.245)  30.916 ms  30.980 ms  30.547 ms
> 13  205.152.37.86 (205.152.37.86)  30.428 ms  30.388 ms  30.429 ms
>
> Traceroute Results for groupstudy.com
>
>  1  vlan122.aggr1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.162)  13.427 ms  0.660 ms
> 0.616 ms
>  2  vl901.core1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.65)  0.707 ms  0.690 ms  0.657
ms
>  3  ge4-0.edge1.sat.rackspace.com (64.39.2.37)  0.618 ms  0.583 ms  0.568
ms
>  4  hstn01-edge01.tx.inet.qwest.net (63.237.96.153)  6.200 ms  6.211 ms
> 6.138 ms
>  5  hstn01-core01.tx.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.9)  6.415 ms  6.334 ms
> 6.354 ms
>  6  hstn01-core02.tx.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.2)  6.616 ms  6.678 ms
> 6.574 ms
>  7  dlls01-core01.tx.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.125)  11.176 ms  11.118 ms
> 11.216 ms
>  8  dlls01-core02.tx.inet.qwest.net (205.171.25.130)  11.258 ms  11.216 ms
> 11.158 ms
>  9  ksca01-core02.mo.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.142)  22.164 ms  22.154 ms
> 22.117 ms
> 10  ksca01-core01.mo.inet.qwest.net (205.171.29.125)  22.129 ms  22.186 ms
> 22.105 ms
> 11  dnvr07-core01.co.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.137)  32.588 ms  32.612 ms
> 32.597 ms
> 12  dnvr07-core02.co.inet.qwest.net (205.171.142.2)  32.669 ms  32.660 ms
> 36.974 ms
> 13  snva01-core03.ca.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.250)  56.910 ms  56.944 ms
> 56.937 ms
> 14  paix01-brdr02.ca.inet.qwest.net (205.171.205.30)  57.549 ms  57.721 ms
> 57.425 ms
> 15  snfccapaix-qwest-pos.wcg.net (64.200.199.125)  56.102 ms  55.987 ms
> 58.250 ms
> 16  sntcca2lce1-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.210.177)  56.041 ms  56.226 ms
56.059
> ms
> 17  snfcca1wcx2-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.199.73)  56.180 ms  56.525 ms  56.477
ms
> 18  anhmca1wcx3-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.240.1)  68.035 ms  67.910 ms  68.004
ms
> 19  anhmca1wcx1-oc12.wcg.net (64.200.143.70)  68.159 ms  68.438 ms  68.167
ms
> 20  anhmca1wcx1-swifcomm-atm.wcg.net (64.200.142.146)  69.785 ms  69.498
ms
> 69.597 ms
> 21  66.220.40.4 (66.220.40.4)  54.965 ms  55.057 ms  55.232 ms
> 22  groupstudy.com (66.220.63.9)  54.547 ms  55.467 ms  54.702 ms
>
> and
>
>
>
> Richard Tufaro
> Anda Inc. - Weston FL
> Network Warrior - Anda Inc.




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Re: OSPF Routing [7:49982]

2002-07-28 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Question,

Do you have the "ip classless" command on both routers?

""John Brandis""  wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> Got 2 routers back 2 back working.
>
> RouterA:
> int s0   192.168.10.1/24
> int e0   192.168.7.1/24
> int loopback 0 192.168.70.1/24
>
> routerb:
> int s1  192.168.10.2/24
> int e0  192.168.3.1/24
> int loopback 0 192.168.30.1/24
>
> I try to use ospf routing in summary on each router by
>
> router ospf 20
> network 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
>
> However, I outside of directly connected subnets using that. To have full
> conectivity to the network, I have to have on for example router a
>
> router ospf 20
> network 192.168.10.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> network 192.168.7.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
> then my routes will work. Should I not be able to simply use a summary of
> 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0 on both routers thus enabling me to all the
> routes ? Or is it part of OSPF that all the networks that I wish to
> distribute must be defined on each router ?
>
> Thanks all
>
> John Brandis
>
>
>
>
>
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