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VLAN support for 2500 series
I have found the following entry on Cisco documentation CD. "New Software Features in Release 12.0(1)T The following new software enhancements are supported by the Cisco 2500 series in Release 12.0(1)T and later releases. IOS IEEE 802.1Q Support Cisco IOS IEEE 802.1Q provides support for IEEE 802.1Q encapsulation for Virtual LANs (VLANs). Use this feature for VLANs consisting of IEEE 802.1Q compliant switches." Does it mean that I can do VLAN routing using 802.1q encapsulation on 2500 series routers? Any help will be much appreciated. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help me Urgent all CCIES please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont understand, if a guy doesn't know the material in the first place how will he be able to pass the written exam and the lab? If one passed the CCIE exams then he/she is a CCIE. The objective does not indicate that aside from passing the exam you must answer correctly all the internetworking question thrown at you by some individual. -Original Message- From: Yonkerbonk [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sun, February 04, 2001 10:41 AM To: Circusnuts; Chris Supino; Ravi N Varma; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Help me Urgent all CCIES please !!! What do you consider a paper CCIE? I've known some not-so-impressive CCIEs, but I don't know of any I'd consider paper. Michael --- Circusnuts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > EEEKKK !!! I'd have to agree... I work with a > couple paper CCIE's > > Phil > CCNA Lot's of hands on- closing in on CCNP > > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Supino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ravi N Varma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 4:39 PM > Subject: RE: Help me Urgent all CCIES please > !!! > > > > Sounds like you may want to postpone that test, my > friend. I personally > > believe that one of the biggest problems with our > industry is paper > certs. > > Do us all a favor and KNOW the material before you > pass the exam. Just my > > two cents. > > > > Christopher Supino > > CCNA, MCSE, CNA 5, ASE > > Senior Systems Engineer > > TransNet Corp. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Ravi N Varma > > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 12:53 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Help me Urgent all CCIES please > !!! > > > > > > Hi there , > > > > I am having trouble getting answers for these > questions could you please > > help me planing to take exam day after > > please help me out > > > > 1.ip datagram contain which of the following > > a,arp packet > > b,bits > > icmp messages > > udp,tcp data > > > > > > > > 2. difference between tacas & tacas+ > > > > 3.in dlsw environment when all route explorer > sent between dlsw peers how > > it will be sent > > a directed broadcast > > b explorer frame > > etc > > 4 in x.25 environment if frame error occurs which > one will reset > connection > > There is diagram two routers separated by serial > link both ends one host > at > > each end > > > > A, Router or Host > > > > 5 same as above but protocol is HDLC in this > situation what will happen > > 6 what is result of sending a loop up signal to > csu/dsu? > > 7 what lane resolution protocol do > > all nw protocols address to nsap > > ip address to nsap > > etc > >8 nlsp & is-is link sate or distance vector > > 9 when bridge receive a frame how it will be > forwarded > > to all ports or except disabled ports it will > forward to all ports > > 10 when tacas does not contain user account what > it wiil do > > 11 frames are unable to transmit from router > though serial link what > happen > > output error > > connection reset etc > > 12 characteristics of 4B/5B encoding in fddi > > 13 what is meant by tcp slow start > > 14 tacas+ has what advantages over tacas? > > > > waitning for your reply > > > > Regards, > > > > sun > > > > > _ > > Chat with your friends as soon as they come > online. Get Rediff Bol at > > http://bol.rediff.com > > > > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!!
Congratulations!!! -Original Message- From: Louie Belt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon, March 19, 2001 8:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!! I just wanted to say thanks to all of the participants of this group. The knowledge, insight and even occasionally the opinions gleaned from this group have been an invaluable tool in the quest for my CCIE. As of today that quest has come to a successful conclusion. Thanks to all!! Louie A. Belt CCIE #7054 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock
You sounded like some newbies has stole your job. Do you have something against up and coming people who just want to learn about Cisco and consequently be certified for it. I do not belong to this group of guys for i have been on this business for 12 years but i'm not insecure if too many of them are coming up. Did'nt you said that experience alone can prove your qualification. Then why you cannot prove it on some exam which you pointed out as unimportant and to easy for you. The guy did not called me an idiot, you do! so if you really want to talk about it i have included my address and telephone number so we can discuss it without cluterring this list. And oh yeah. I've been a victim of guys like you twelve years ago. I cannot make myself part of it now. Wilfredo M. Ruelos Network Engineer Riyad Bank -Riyadh Data Center Tel +966-1-472-2750 ext 299 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU
I'm no expert but the explanation from the book Cisco LAN Switching chapter 1 page 11-12 seems logical to me. Jojo -Original Message- From: Tony van Ree [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed, January 24, 2001 1:11 AM To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU Hi, I just glance at some of the discussion. Here is my two bob's worth. It is fine to sit there and say how long it takes a signal to get from one end of a cable to another. In the purest thoery both ends happen simultaneously (we all know this is not true it is on copper about 75% of the speed of light in fibre 90%) That is one argument and this would have one believe that one could therefore send 10Meg further than 100Meg full duplex further than half. (and to a limited degree you could) We can only have one signal on one wire at one time for various reasons (probably not true but it is for the theoretical purpose) Ok, what happens when we put a pulse on a line. In a nutshell it is not all to dissimilar to putting water onto a plate. The bigger the plate the longer it takes to fill. Therefore the longer the cable the longer it will take the remote end to see the signal reach the full strength. (Attenuation) As anyone with tinitus will tell you it is hard to hear in a crowded room. So it is with cable (Cross Talk) the longer the cable the more chance of crosstalk. I think you will find at 100 Metres there is a good balance of all these things and therefore the limit. To get further we could overcome attenuation by sending stronger. This would increase crosstalk to neighbours. Better balancing might work but this would be costly. I feel someone has thought about a lot of this. Just some thoughts and my way of viewing cable lengths, Teunis Hobart, Tasmania Australia On Tuesday, January 23, 2001 at 12:54:11 PM, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > At 03:27 PM 1/23/01, Erik Mintz wrote: > >I have a question regarding CSMA/CD vs full duplex. If the problems > >relating to distance are set due to the limitations of CSMA/CD, > >what are the limits when using full duplex? > >I have had several situations where I had to run fiber because of > >distance, but these > >where almost invariably full duplex uplinks or trunks. Can I go farther > >with copper if the link is full-duplex? > > A copper 100-Mbps full-duplex DTE-DTE link is still limited to 100 meters. > Gigabit Ethernet has a 25-meter standard for use with STP, and work on a > 100-meter segment for use with UTP is underway, last I heard. > > I think the 100 meter rule is based on attenuation. Note that the EIA/TIA > also says you shouldn't have more than 100 meters for your horizontal > cabling from a wiring closet to a workstation. (90 meters actually, plus a > 10-meter patch cable.) I'm sure the rules are related to each other and are > probably to avoid too much attenuation. I'm not a physical-layer person, > though. Someone else can probably provide a more authoritative answer. > > Priscilla > > > >-Erik > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Priscilla Oppenheimer > >Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:16 PM > >To: Brian Lodwick; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU > > > > > >At 09:20 PM 1/22/01, Brian Lodwick wrote: > > >B for > > > > > > >>>Brian > > >My additional question on top of this one is: > > > > > >If the maximum legal length was set to 1/10th the size to make regular > > >(10Mb/sec) increased by a factor of 10, what was done to further increase > > >100Mb/sec Ethernet by a factor of 10 to get Gigabit Ethernet? > > > >I like your plan to turn this into a non-easy question! The only experience > >I have with Gigabit Ethernet is in a fully-switched network where every > >port is full duplex, in which case CSMA/CD parameters are not an issue. > >However, shared, half-duplex Gigabit Ethernet is viable also. > > > >With shared 10 and 100-Mbps Ethernet, the minimum frame size is equal to > >the maximum round-trip propagation delay of the network. In other words, > >the minimum frame size is equal to the slotTime = 512 bits. Sticking to > >this rule would haver resulted in impracticably small networks for Gigabit > >Ethernet, however. The solution was a process called "carrier extension." > > > >According to Rich Seifert in his excellent book, "Gigabit Ethernet," "The > >key change is that the slotTime and the minimum frame are no longer the > >same. The minimum frame is maintained at 512 bits (64 bytes, as in 10 Mbps > >and 100 Mbps Ethernets), but the slotTime is set at 4096 bit-times (512 > >bytes). > > > >Frames that are shorter than the slotTime are artificially extended by > >appending a carrier-extension field so that they are exactly one slotTime > >long. This extends the duration of the time that the station transmits > >If a collision occur
Fw: fridays not-so funny [7:2241]
Maganda to kaya basahin ninyo na lang. - Original Message - From: "larry bird" To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: fridays not-so funny [7:2241] > Interesting > > > > In light of the recent shooting in Santee, California, > let's see, I think it started when Madeline Murray > O'Hare complained she didn't want any prayer in > our schools, and we said OK. > > Then someone said you better not read the Bible in > school the Bible that says thou shalt not kill, > thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as > yourself. And we said, OK. > > Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our > children when they misbehave > because their little Personalities would be warped and > we might damage their self-esteem. And we said, an > expert should know what he's talking about > so we said OK, we won't spank them anymore. > > Then someone said teachers and principals better not > discipline our children when they misbehave. And the > school administrators said no faculty member in > this school better touch a student when they misbehave > because we don't want any bad publicity, and we surely > don't want to be sued. (There's a big > difference between disciplining and touching, beating, > > smacking,humiliating,kicking, etc.) And we accepted > their reasoning. > > Then someone said, let's let our daughters have > abortions if they want, and > they won't even have to tell their parents. And we > said, that's a grand idea. > > Then some wise school board member said, since boys > will be boys and they're > going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the > condoms they want, so > they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't > have to tell their parents they got them at school. > And we said, that's another great idea. > > Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't > matter what we do in private as long as we do our > jobs. And agreeing with them, we said it > doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the > President, does in private as long as I have a job and > the economy is good. > > And then someone said let's print magazines with > pictures of nude women and > call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the > beauty of the female body. And we said we have no > problem with that. And someone else took that > appreciation a step further and published pictures of > nude children and then > stepped further still by making them available on the > internet. And we said they're entitled to their free > speech. > > And the entertainment industry said, let's make TV > shows and movies that > promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. And > let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, > murder, suicide, and satanic themes. And we said > it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, and > nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead. > > Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no > conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and > why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their > classmates, and themselves. > > Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, > we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to > do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW." > > Dear God, > > Why didn't you save the students in Santee? > > Sincerely, > Concerned Student > > AND THE REPLY: > > Dear Concerned Student, > I am not allowed in schools. > Sincerely, > God. > > Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and > then wonder why the > world's going to hell. > > Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but > question what the bible says. > > Funny how everyone wants to go to heaven provided > they do not have to believe, think, say, or do > anything the Bible says. > > Funny how someone can say "I believe in God" but still > follow Satan who, by the way, also "believes" in God. > > Funny how we are quick to judge but not to be judged. > > Funny how you can send a thousand 'jokes' through > e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you > start sending messages regarding the Lord, people > think twice about sharing. > > Funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene pass > freely through cyberspace, but the public discussion > of Jesus is suppressed in the school and workplace. > > Funny how someone can be so fired up for Christ on > Sunday, but be an invisible Christian the rest of the > week. > > Are you laughing? > > Funny how when you go to forward this message, you > will not send it to many on your address list because > you're not sure what they believe, or what they will > think of you for sending it to them. > > Funny how I can be more worried about what other > people think of me than what God thinks of me. > > Are you thinking? > > Pass it on if you think it has merit! If not then just > discard itno one will ever know what you did, for > sure. > > But, if you discard this thought process, then don't > sit back and complain about what a bad shape the world > is in. > > > > _
Re: Catalyst 6500
I have the same problem with our 6509. We have three VLANs, subnet *.*.112.0/23 VLAN 0001 *.*.214.0/24 VLAN 90 *.*.212.0/24 VLAN 91 VTP server mode is enabled but no trunking or routing is enabled on all ports. When I try to ping from a wktsn on subnet *.*.112.0/23 the IP addresses *.*.214.3 or *.*.214.4 it's successful. But when I try to ping any other addresses aside from *.*.214.3 and *.*.214.4 its unsuccesful. When I go to a wkstn who is a member of VLAN 90 and try pinging *.*.112.3 and *.*.112.4 I'm also successful , any other address is unsuccessful. Can anybody tell me what is the reason? Any help will be appreciated. -Original Message- From: Fowler, Joey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, February 01, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: RE: Catalyst 6500 >Maybe one of the attached hosts is a server with routing enabled? > >-Original Message- >From: user [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:45 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Catalyst 6500 > > >How can separate VLANs on a 6500 talk without routing enabled? It's >happening and I can't figure out how. Thanks... > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help me Urgent all CCIES please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't it thats the whole reason there is a lab? To separate those who will just pass by memorizing books. Well I myself wouldn't try taking the lab if I had to rely only on books. Besides paying the exam fee, I would have to shell out for my roundtrip air tickets, my hotel, and I have to apply myself for a visa, either in Japan or Australia. Thats a lot of money thats going to be wasted isn't it? So I'll never try it until I'm prepared. And yes, although my company has not suported me financially for this I had some high end equipment I could practice to at work. Some but not all the Cisco product line up. So if godwilling I become a CCIE, although I have lots of lab and have read all the books as required I hope you'll forgive me if I cannot answer all your questions. To those who can answer all the questions, well I bet you've taken the lab just one time to pass it. Judging from the CCIE lab failure rate, I doubt it. -Original Message- From: Chris Supino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Wilfredo M. Ruelos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, February 04, 2001 5:44 PM Subject: RE: Help me Urgent all CCIES please !!! Well, in my estimation, that is exactly what the objective is. When you become a CCIE, I believe you are expected to answer any question thrown at you without hesitation, not because you memorized 15 books, but because you have the knowledge and hands-on experience to answer it. The reputation of too many certs has been destroyed by "engineers" who have only attained their certification status by memorizing material and taking tests. I don't know about you, but when I see some of the questions that supposed "CCNAs" and even "CCNPs" ask in this group, I cringe. I woudln't want them installing software on my PC, much less installing or maintaining my network. Ah, well, as with anything, actions speak louder than words, and these paper "engineers" will eventually be thinned out of the herd, when they are left exposed because they cannot deliver as promised. Just my two cents. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wilfredo M. Ruelos Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 5:00 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Help me Urgent all CCIES please !!! I dont understand, if a guy doesn't know the material in the first place how will he be able to pass the written exam and the lab? If one passed the CCIE exams then he/she is a CCIE. The objective does not indicate that aside from passing the exam you must answer correctly all the internetworking question thrown at you by some individual. -Original Message- From: Yonkerbonk [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sun, February 04, 2001 10:41 AM To: Circusnuts; Chris Supino; Ravi N Varma; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help me Urgent all CCIES please !!! What do you consider a paper CCIE? I've known some not-so-impressive CCIEs, but I don't know of any I'd consider paper. Michael --- Circusnuts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > EEEKKK !!! I'd have to agree... I work with a > couple paper CCIE's > > Phil > CCNA Lot's of hands on- closing in on CCNP > > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Supino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ravi N Varma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 4:39 PM > Subject: RE: Help me Urgent all CCIES please > !!! > > > > Sounds like you may want to postpone that test, my > friend. I personally > > believe that one of the biggest problems with our > industry is paper > certs. > > Do us all a favor and KNOW the material before you > pass the exam. Just my > > two cents. > > > > Christopher Supino > > CCNA, MCSE, CNA 5, ASE > > Senior Systems Engineer > > TransNet Corp. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Ravi N Varma > > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 12:53 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Help me Urgent all CCIES please > !!! > > > > > > Hi there , > > > > I am having trouble getting answers for these > questions could you please > > help me planing to take exam day after > > please help me out > > > > 1.ip datagram contain which of the following > > a,arp packet > > b,bits > > icmp messages > > udp,tcp data > > > > > > > > 2. difference between tacas & tacas+ > > > > 3.in dlsw environment when all route explorer > sent between dlsw peers how > > it will be sent
Re: Clarify the differences between Ethernet & IEEE 802.3
During the initial installation of your network interface card driver your upper layer protocols like IP or IPX/SPX was binded to a frame type of your choice , in your case either IEEE 802.3 or Ethernet II. So the packet will be encapsulated with the frame type of your choice. -Original Message- From: Billy Monroe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, February 04, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Clarify the differences between Ethernet & IEEE 802.3 >Thanks. >I mean, during encapsulation how IEEE 802.3 or Ethernet will be selected ? >"Who" decides that ? > > >"Curtis Call" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >4.3.2.7.0.20010204110556.00ab6100@mail">news:4.3.2.7.0.20010204110556.00ab6100@mail... >> They are different standards for ethernet. They both use CSMA/CD. 802.3 >> was defined by the IEEE and Ethernet was defined by Xerox I believe. >> >> The difference is in the packet format: >> >> Ethernet: >> Destination Address (6 octets) - Source Address (6) - Protocol (2) - Data >> (Variable) - FCS (4) >> >> 802.3 >> Destination Address (6 octets) - Source Address (6) - Length (2) - Data >> (Variable) - FCS (4) >> >> A node can tell the difference between the two protocols because the >Length >> of a packet can never be more than 1518 bytes so if that value is more >than >> 1518 the node can tell that it is an Ethernet packet and that that >> particular spot is the protocol type field not the length. >> >> Given that 802.3 packets don't contain the protocol type field they cannot >> transport different network layer protocols without using additional >> information which is why 802.2 and SNAP was defined. The 802.2 or SNAP >> fields occur at the beginning of the Data portion of the packet and are >> used to specify which protocol is sending the packet. >> >> Did that answer your question? >> >> At 09:43 AM 2/4/01 -0800, you wrote: >> >I see a description of the differences between them but I can't really >> >understand that in practical terms. >> >Is the IEEE 802.3 the CSMA/CD ? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >_ >> >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >> >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >> >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> _ >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCDA
Passed CCDA today with 883. Its tougher than CCNA. On to FRS. Jojo CCNA/CCDA _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cert Difficulty Comparison.
Go for it the following Mondays. I expect that you'll tell us how you fared. ---Original Message- From: Craig Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 2:07 AM Subject: Cert Difficulty Comparison. >Hi, >I'm just starting my Cisco Cert and I was wondering if anyone else is >surprised how easy the Cisco tests are. I always hesitated doing the Cisco >certs because I heard they were "hard". Not that I mind a challenge, its >just I'm a little busy right now. Anyway, I just started a week and a bit >ago. I took the CCNA the Monday before last, and switching last Monday. I >felt the exams were quite easy. I passed both with scores well into the >900s and didn't spend that much time studying. I work full time and teach >during the evenings, so all I studied was a little on Sat and Sun. I'm not >the sharpest knife in the drawer, did I just luck out on questions, or take >the easy test first, or are all the test about the same difficulty? > >I seem to see folks pooh-pooh the MCSE but I feel like the MS tests are much >harder than the Cisco ones. MS tests cover a large range of topics where >the Cisco test are a really small subset of topics. Does anyone else feel >that way or am I just way up in the night? I've decided to do a test a week >until I finish the CCNP, does this sound nuts? Anyway I am just trying to >see what other folks think. > >A little mystified, >Craig Lindstrom >MCT MCSE+I CCNA(as of last week!) SOB:) > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
JUst because u think they dont know nothing, they really dont know nothing . Can u post your grades here so that well see how smart u are? If u think that you know more than people who are getting CCXX certified then why dont u hurry up and take the lab. Dont u think that these people should be credited for what they have achieved. Cisco is not mystery anymore. More and more people will try to learn it. More and more people will produce learning aides, materials that will enables guys to learn as easily as possible. These guys dont have to worry about your opinions after they passed these exams. These guys may even passed the lab before you do. And maybe you will come here complaining that Cisco made the lab so easy. -Original Message- From: Mike Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:54 AM Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX >I will probably get yelled at for this one but... > >I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE. >So up front I am not against certs. > >I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming >Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually >do the work. Our company has and is interviewing for >network folks, I have the opportunity to interview >these people to verify technical experience. I have >had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who >could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know. > > >This scares me because I am also working hard toward >my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven and is >showing up more that these people are becoming "paper" >Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE. > >I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will remain as >difficult if not more so in the future. I for one do >not want to spend a year of my life gaining the CCIE >title to be one among thousands who also have it. > >That is my insite and hope Cisco will >try to make it more difficult to obtain the CCNP/DP >and not become another MCSE program. > > > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
