JUst because u think they dont know nothing,  they really dont know nothing
.  Can u post your grades here so that well see how smart u are?  If u think
that you know more than  people who are getting CCXX certified then why
dont u hurry up and take the lab.  Dont u think that these people should be
credited for what they have achieved.  Cisco is not mystery anymore.  More
and more people will try to learn it. More and more people will produce
learning aides, materials  that will enables guys to learn as easily as
possible.  These guys dont have to worry about your opinions after they
passed these exams.  These guys may even passed the lab before you do.   And
maybe you will come here complaining  that  Cisco made the lab so easy.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:54 AM
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX


>I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
>
>I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
>So up front I am not against certs.
>
>I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
>Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually
>do the work. Our company has and is interviewing for
>network folks, I have the opportunity to interview
>these people to verify technical experience. I have
>had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who
>could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know.
>
>
>This scares me because I am also working hard toward
>my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven and is
>showing up more that these people are becoming "paper"
>Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE.
>
>I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will remain as
>difficult if not more so in the future. I for one do
>not want to spend a year of my life gaining the CCIE
>title to be one among thousands who also have it.
>
>That is my insite and hope Cisco will
>try to make it more difficult to obtain the CCNP/DP
>and not become another MCSE program.
>
>
>
>
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