Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]
Daniel Lafraia wrote: If the new beta exam (351-001) will have its number changed to 350-001 how would you know for sure if you're going to take the new/old one? I mean. I called Prometric and they said you're able to register for the 350-001 even after August 1st (Maybe the registration date?). I missed the beta by 7% and I'd like to take the old test before it's retired. Daniel, Those of us who are preparing for the R/S exams are in a precarious position, but I think it's going to stabilize in a few months. To me, the big issue is: What are we most likely to be tested on? Officially, for legal purposes, there have been claims that we're responsbible for the entire IOS. However, I've seen statements at cisco.com that certain technologies like IPX and TR are no longer part of the R/S lab exam, and I expect there are some topics that have been excluded from the qualifying exam (for example, we only need to know the ATM UNI on the customer side, not the network side of the UNI or NNI). And then there's the question of what has been added. Later this month I hope to post a summary of my findings (mainly questions and confusions!) and the sources of my information. If anyone wants to send me what they've found, I'll include it in my summary. We're trying to hit a moving target. Everything's in flux. But things will settle down in a few months when all (most?) of the relevant URLs at cisco.com have been updated to reflect cisco's vision of the new CCIE. These are exciting times, sometimes maybe just a little too exciting. -- TT email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48824t=48585 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]
Hello Michael, If the new beta exam (351-001) will have its number changed to 350-001 how would you know for sure if you're going to take the new/old one? I mean. I called Prometric and they said you're able to register for the 350-001 even after August 1st (Maybe the registration date?). I missed the beta by 7% and I'd like to take the old test before it's retired. :) cya Daniel Michael L. Williams wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Tom Scott wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... * Is there a new exam that will replace the R/S qualifying exam 350-001? I heard it might be renumbered 351-001 but there are no references to 351-001 on cisco.com. Does anyone have information about this? Specifically, if there is, or will be, a new qualifier, how will it differ from the current 350-001? Tom, No offense, but have you been in a cave the past 4 months or so? There is a new version of the R/S written exam and it will taking over the old exam soon. There have been many discussions and posts regarding the new format, it's difficulty, the topics, etc Search the archives and you'll see many conversations regarding the new exam. It was indeed numbered the 351-001 while it was in beta, but once it takes over the old exam, it will also assume the 350-001 number. If you're new to Groupstudy, then don't be offended at my been in a cave statement. just check the archives... If you're NOT new to Groupstudy, then feel free take offense at my comment because you haven't been watching very closely if you're asking about the new R/S exam this late in the game... =) HTH, Mike W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/02 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48762t=48585 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]
Michael L. Williams wrote: If you're NOT new to Groupstudy, then feel free take offense at my comment because you haven't been watching very closely if you're asking about the new R/S exam this late in the game... =) No offense taken. I'm only here to learn and to better my chances of passing the CCIE exams, not to worry about manners or lack thereof. =) I'm not sure how you'd define new to Groupstudy, but I can confess to at least one cardinal sin, namely, that I read some but not all of the messages that get posted. In addition, my searching skills are probably not as good as they should be. I searched the Professional / Technical archives on groupstudy.com for 351-001, as that's what my question was about. The result was: Summary for query 351-001: Found 0 matches in 0 files. I didn't do too well on that one, so I went over to cisco.com and searched for the same string. Here's what I got: Results for: 351-001 of about 0. Search took 0.00385 seconds. That leaves me with a question: How do I search not only the subjects but also the body of messages in the Pro/Tech archives on Groupstudy? As a specific test case, how exactly would I find 351-001 in the message bodies? This is a sincere question. If anyone can enlighten me on this issue, I'd be grateful for the help. -- TIA, TT P.S. After posting my original message, I did find the following URL on Google: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/RoutingBeta.html For whatever reason, the search on cisco.com finds no matches for 351-001, but references to the URL still exist, thanks to our friends at Google. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48780t=48585 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]
Tom, I made a copy of the outline for the new RS exam... but I think it's @ work... so I'll look for it there and forward it on to you. Mike W. Tom Scott wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Michael L. Williams wrote: If you're NOT new to Groupstudy, then feel free take offense at my comment because you haven't been watching very closely if you're asking about the new R/S exam this late in the game... =) No offense taken. I'm only here to learn and to better my chances of passing the CCIE exams, not to worry about manners or lack thereof. =) I'm not sure how you'd define new to Groupstudy, but I can confess to at least one cardinal sin, namely, that I read some but not all of the messages that get posted. In addition, my searching skills are probably not as good as they should be. I searched the Professional / Technical archives on groupstudy.com for 351-001, as that's what my question was about. The result was: Summary for query 351-001: Found 0 matches in 0 files. I didn't do too well on that one, so I went over to cisco.com and searched for the same string. Here's what I got: Results for: 351-001 of about 0. Search took 0.00385 seconds. That leaves me with a question: How do I search not only the subjects but also the body of messages in the Pro/Tech archives on Groupstudy? As a specific test case, how exactly would I find 351-001 in the message bodies? This is a sincere question. If anyone can enlighten me on this issue, I'd be grateful for the help. -- TIA, TT P.S. After posting my original message, I did find the following URL on Google: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/RoutingBeta.html For whatever reason, the search on cisco.com finds no matches for 351-001, but references to the URL still exist, thanks to our friends at Google. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48798t=48585 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]
A couple questions about CCIE preparation and exams: * There's a new book from ciscopress, to be published (I hope) this month: CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Certification Guide. It appears to be a preparation not only for the R/S qualifying exam but also for the C/S. Is anyone familiar with the contents? Does the book clearly distinguish which chapters / sections are for R/S vs. C/S? * Is there a new exam that will replace the R/S qualifying exam 350-001? I heard it might be renumbered 351-001 but there are no references to 351-001 on cisco.com. Does anyone have information about this? Specifically, if there is, or will be, a new qualifier, how will it differ from the current 350-001? * A ciscopress preparation book for the R/S lab exam, CCIE Practical Studies, Volume 1: http://www.gocertify.com/article/solie.shtml Anyone have experience with this book? Is it reasonable to focus on these two books (Certification Guide and Practical Studies Vol. I) to prepare for the R/S qualifier and lab exams? -- TIA, TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48585t=48585 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]
Hello, Some of the books mentioned here can be viewed at the site www.informit.com.You can subscribe (free subscription for 14 days) for the online books or can pay $14 and subscribe for 30 days.you can select books of your interest and start reading it online. Kind Regards /Thangavel 186K Reading,Brkshire Direct No -0118 9064259 Mobile No -07796292416 Post code: RG16LH www.186k.co.uk -- The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall . -- Nelson Mandela Tom Scott cc: Sent by: Fax to: nobody@groupstSubject: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585] udy.com 11/07/2002 14:36 Please respond to Tom Scott A couple questions about CCIE preparation and exams: * There's a new book from ciscopress, to be published (I hope) this month: CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Certification Guide. It appears to be a preparation not only for the R/S qualifying exam but also for the C/S. Is anyone familiar with the contents? Does the book clearly distinguish which chapters / sections are for R/S vs. C/S? * Is there a new exam that will replace the R/S qualifying exam 350-001? I heard it might be renumbered 351-001 but there are no references to 351-001 on cisco.com. Does anyone have information about this? Specifically, if there is, or will be, a new qualifier, how will it differ from the current 350-001? * A ciscopress preparation book for the R/S lab exam, CCIE Practical Studies, Volume 1: http://www.gocertify.com/article/solie.shtml Anyone have experience with this book? Is it reasonable to focus on these two books (Certification Guide and Practical Studies Vol. I) to prepare for the R/S qualifier and lab exams? -- TIA, TT ** This e-mail is from 186k Ltd and is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or priveleged information, if you are not the named addressee or the person responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee, please advise the sender by return e-mail. The contents should not be disclosed to any other person nor copies taken. 186k Ltd is a Lattice Group company, registered in England Wales No. 3751494 Registered Office 130 Jermyn Street London SW1Y 4UR ** Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48589t=48585 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE preparation and exams [7:48585]
Tom Scott wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... * Is there a new exam that will replace the R/S qualifying exam 350-001? I heard it might be renumbered 351-001 but there are no references to 351-001 on cisco.com. Does anyone have information about this? Specifically, if there is, or will be, a new qualifier, how will it differ from the current 350-001? Tom, No offense, but have you been in a cave the past 4 months or so? There is a new version of the R/S written exam and it will taking over the old exam soon. There have been many discussions and posts regarding the new format, it's difficulty, the topics, etc Search the archives and you'll see many conversations regarding the new exam. It was indeed numbered the 351-001 while it was in beta, but once it takes over the old exam, it will also assume the 350-001 number. If you're new to Groupstudy, then don't be offended at my been in a cave statement. just check the archives... If you're NOT new to Groupstudy, then feel free take offense at my comment because you haven't been watching very closely if you're asking about the new R/S exam this late in the game... =) HTH, Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48640t=48585 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Toronto Guys: CCIE Preparation group [7:36506]
Hi All, Toronto guys, Planning to prepare for CCIE lab, let's form a group.Advantages, u all know. Thanks, Sunil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36506t=36506 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: RE: CCIE preparation [7:31305]
Hi Dennis, Just a couple of comments on your lab equipment. Instead of a 2511 you might consider a CS-516. It is a 2511 without the two serial ports. They go for around $300 on ebay. On the voice you might consider a 3810 instead of adding voice to the 2600. The VCM for the 2600 is expensive. You need one on the 3810 also but there are usually quit a few for sale on ebay with this and the fxs ports installed in the $500 to $600 range. Programing the voice on them is the same as a 2600. I also bought a couple without voice for $300 each instead of the 2501's. They have a much faster processor. Thanks for all your help Wes Stevens From: Kaminski, Shawn G Reply-To: Kaminski, Shawn G To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE preparation [7:31305] Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:16:40 -0500 Dennis, What a nice and helpful write-up! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: CCIE preparation [7:31305] Just yesturday I was putting something together for someone who used my boson to pass the written. Most of it is just some of the common wisdom from the history of this group. Here's what I had, and I welcome feedback (and good hearted abuse) from the group... my first draft follows -- Read um and Weep Here's the short list of books I would recommend to read (at a minimum) during your lab preparation. Find yourself a shady spot outside, and crack the spine of each of these page-turners, it's the only chance you'll have to see the sun for a few months: 7 Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs, Second Edition by Andrew Bruce Caslow 7 Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition by Bassam Halabi 7 CCIE Prof. Development Routing TCP/IP Volumes I II, Jeff Doyle 7 Cisco LAN Switching (CCIE professional development) 7 Cisco Catalyst LAN Switching by Louis R Rossi, Louis D. Rossi, Thomas Rossi 7 Configuring Cisco Routers for bridging, DLSW+, Desktop Protocols by Tan Nam-Kee 7 My own lab prep book, once I finish writing it (look for it sometime in 2003)... J Building your own Pod: One of the most important elements of your CCIE lab preparation is having equipment to practice on. My advice would be put together a home pod watching every dollar very carefully, and then sell it on ebay when you're done. If you do everything right, your practice time should only cost you the interest on your credit card, and the depreciation in the value of the equipment. What follows is a list of what I think has the makings of a great CCIE Lab practice pod: 7 One Cisco 2511 router to use as a terminal server. A 2509 would work fine if you have one, but trust me, before long you'll need the extra ports. 7 A router with multiple Serial ports to use as a Frame Relay switch. Cisco 2522's are popular for this, although in my own lab I use a 2610 with an 8-port serial module. 7 Two Cisco 2503's. 7 One Cisco 2504 (for the FatKid labs). 7 Four or five more Cisco 2500 series routers with a selection of Serial, Ethernet and Token Ring ports, (I love 2513's, because they have all three). 7 One ISDN emulator. 7 One Cat2924XL or Cat5k Switch. 7 One Cisco 3620 or 2620 with at least one Fast Ethernet port and a pair of FXS ports for VoIP. 7 Two CAB-OCTAL-ASYNC. These 8-lead octal cables (68 pin to 8 male RJ-45s) are used with the terminal server 7 One MAU. 7 Lots of DTE/DCE serial cables, AUI adapters, patch cables, and crossover cables. * Please note that all 2500 series routers should have 16 Megs of memory, 16 Megs of Flash and be loaded with an Enterprise Version of 12.1 IOS appropriate to its physical configuration. The only things missing from the list above is ATM and a Token Ring switch. I consider ATM just too darn expensive for a home pod, and a 3920 is hard to get, expensive, and easy to configure. For both these technologies, I would recommend renting some on-line lab time. OK, The Equipment Looks Good on the Rack, Now What? You'll also need practice labs to run on your routers. Here's a list of lab materials I think are useful, in order of complexity (easiest to hardest): 7 Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide, Second Edition by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee 7 www.FatKid.com (these have the added advantage of being free) 7 www.solutionlabs.com 7 www.IPExpert.net 7 ccbootcmp Advice on Preparation: Know the CD. When you're in the lab, this will be one of your few friends. Know where the command reference are, and most importantly, know where the sample configurations are. Think how much time you can save if you cut-and-paste samples from the CD into your configurations. Print out and keep posted on the wall a copy of the exam blueprint. This should be a constant reminder of what you know, and what's left to figure out. Avoid
Re: FW: CCIE preparation [7:31305]
All of this advice is exactly what I am looking for. Many thanks goes out to everyone for the helpful thoughts. Well I have decided to start on the reading list to make sure I have the fundamentals down. I plan to definitely build a lab for home, and I will have access to some bigger Cisco equipment at work for lab purposes. Again, Thank you. Marcus Faust From: Dennis Laganiere To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: FW: CCIE preparation [7:31305] Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:15:49 -0800 Let me know what you think of the write up below. Is that what you were looking for? --- Dennis my first draft follows -- Read um and Weep Here's the short list of books I would recommend to read (at a minimum) during your lab preparation. Find yourself a shady spot outside, and crack the spine of each of these page-turners, it's the only chance you'll have to see the sun for a few months: 7 Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs, Second Edition by Andrew Bruce Caslow 7 Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition by Bassam Halabi 7 CCIE Prof. Development Routing TCP/IP Volumes I II, Jeff Doyle 7 Cisco LAN Switching (CCIE professional development) 7 Cisco Catalyst LAN Switching by Louis R Rossi, Louis D. Rossi, Thomas Rossi 7 Configuring Cisco Routers for bridging, DLSW+, Desktop Protocols by Tan Nam-Kee 7 My own lab prep book, once I finish writing it (look for it sometime in 2003)... J Building your own Pod: One of the most important elements of your CCIE lab preparation is having equipment to practice on. My advice would be put together a home pod watching every dollar very carefully, and then sell it on ebay when you're done. If you do everything right, your practice time should only cost you the interest on your credit card, and the depreciation in the value of the equipment. What follows is a list of what I think has the makings of a great CCIE Lab practice pod: 7 One Cisco 2511 router to use as a terminal server. A 2509 would work fine if you have one, but trust me, before long you'll need the extra ports. 7 A router with multiple Serial ports to use as a Frame Relay switch. Cisco 2522's are popular for this, although in my own lab I use a 2610 with an 8-port serial module. 7 Two Cisco 2503's. 7 One Cisco 2504 (for the FatKid labs). 7 Four or five more Cisco 2500 series routers with a selection of Serial, Ethernet and Token Ring ports, (I love 2513's, because they have all three). 7 One ISDN emulator. 7 One Cat2924XL or Cat5k Switch. 7 One Cisco 3620 or 2620 with at least one Fast Ethernet port and a pair of FXS ports for VoIP. 7 Two CAB-OCTAL-ASYNC. These 8-lead octal cables (68 pin to 8 male RJ-45s) are used with the terminal server 7 One MAU. 7 Lots of DTE/DCE serial cables, AUI adapters, patch cables, and crossover cables. * Please note that all 2500 series routers should have 16 Megs of memory, 16 Megs of Flash and be loaded with an Enterprise Version of 12.1 IOS appropriate to its physical configuration. The only things missing from the list above is ATM and a Token Ring switch. I consider ATM just too darn expensive for a home pod, and a 3920 is hard to get, expensive, and easy to configure. For both these technologies, I would recommend renting some on-line lab time. OK, The Equipment Looks Good on the Rack, Now What? You'll also need practice labs to run on your routers. Here's a list of lab materials I think are useful, in order of complexity (easiest to hardest): 7 Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide, Second Edition by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee 7 www.FatKid.com (these have the added advantage of being free) 7 www.solutionlabs.com 7 www.IPExpert.net 7 ccbootcmp Advice on Preparation: Know the CD. When you're in the lab, this will be one of your few friends. Know where the command reference are, and most importantly, know where the sample configurations are. Think how much time you can save if you cut-and-paste samples from the CD into your configurations. Print out and keep posted on the wall a copy of the exam blueprint. This should be a constant reminder of what you know, and what's left to figure out. Avoid first time pressure. Only a small percentage of people pass on the first attempt, and your four digit number is not de-valued if you make several attempts. Prepare for what you expect the exam to be, but be ready to accept the first attempt as exploratory expedition; a chance to map the terrain for future trips. Who knows; the extra calm of reduced expectations may actually help you pass. Watch the news feeds at www.groupstudy.com, these are excellent free resources. People are always posting problems, and working out how to help them not only builds goodwill, but helps develop your own understanding of these technologies. Focus on the core technologies; ISDN, Frame Relay, bridging, routing
RE: CCIE preparation [7:31305]
Dennis, What a nice and helpful write-up! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: CCIE preparation [7:31305] Just yesturday I was putting something together for someone who used my boson to pass the written. Most of it is just some of the common wisdom from the history of this group. Here's what I had, and I welcome feedback (and good hearted abuse) from the group... my first draft follows -- Read um and Weep Here's the short list of books I would recommend to read (at a minimum) during your lab preparation. Find yourself a shady spot outside, and crack the spine of each of these page-turners, it's the only chance you'll have to see the sun for a few months: 7 Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs, Second Edition by Andrew Bruce Caslow 7 Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition by Bassam Halabi 7 CCIE Prof. Development Routing TCP/IP Volumes I II, Jeff Doyle 7 Cisco LAN Switching (CCIE professional development) 7 Cisco Catalyst LAN Switching by Louis R Rossi, Louis D. Rossi, Thomas Rossi 7 Configuring Cisco Routers for bridging, DLSW+, Desktop Protocols by Tan Nam-Kee 7 My own lab prep book, once I finish writing it (look for it sometime in 2003)... J Building your own Pod: One of the most important elements of your CCIE lab preparation is having equipment to practice on. My advice would be put together a home pod watching every dollar very carefully, and then sell it on ebay when you're done. If you do everything right, your practice time should only cost you the interest on your credit card, and the depreciation in the value of the equipment. What follows is a list of what I think has the makings of a great CCIE Lab practice pod: 7 One Cisco 2511 router to use as a terminal server. A 2509 would work fine if you have one, but trust me, before long you'll need the extra ports. 7 A router with multiple Serial ports to use as a Frame Relay switch. Cisco 2522's are popular for this, although in my own lab I use a 2610 with an 8-port serial module. 7 Two Cisco 2503's. 7 One Cisco 2504 (for the FatKid labs). 7 Four or five more Cisco 2500 series routers with a selection of Serial, Ethernet and Token Ring ports, (I love 2513's, because they have all three). 7 One ISDN emulator. 7 One Cat2924XL or Cat5k Switch. 7 One Cisco 3620 or 2620 with at least one Fast Ethernet port and a pair of FXS ports for VoIP. 7 Two CAB-OCTAL-ASYNC. These 8-lead octal cables (68 pin to 8 male RJ-45s) are used with the terminal server 7 One MAU. 7 Lots of DTE/DCE serial cables, AUI adapters, patch cables, and crossover cables. * Please note that all 2500 series routers should have 16 Megs of memory, 16 Megs of Flash and be loaded with an Enterprise Version of 12.1 IOS appropriate to its physical configuration. The only things missing from the list above is ATM and a Token Ring switch. I consider ATM just too darn expensive for a home pod, and a 3920 is hard to get, expensive, and easy to configure. For both these technologies, I would recommend renting some on-line lab time. OK, The Equipment Looks Good on the Rack, Now What? You'll also need practice labs to run on your routers. Here's a list of lab materials I think are useful, in order of complexity (easiest to hardest): 7 Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide, Second Edition by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee 7 www.FatKid.com (these have the added advantage of being free) 7 www.solutionlabs.com 7 www.IPExpert.net 7 ccbootcmp Advice on Preparation: Know the CD. When you're in the lab, this will be one of your few friends. Know where the command reference are, and most importantly, know where the sample configurations are. Think how much time you can save if you cut-and-paste samples from the CD into your configurations. Print out and keep posted on the wall a copy of the exam blueprint. This should be a constant reminder of what you know, and what's left to figure out. Avoid first time pressure. Only a small percentage of people pass on the first attempt, and your four digit number is not de-valued if you make several attempts. Prepare for what you expect the exam to be, but be ready to accept the first attempt as exploratory expedition; a chance to map the terrain for future trips. Who knows; the extra calm of reduced expectations may actually help you pass. Watch the news feeds at www.groupstudy.com, these are excellent free resources. People are always posting problems, and working out how to help them not only builds goodwill, but helps develop your own understanding of these technologies. Focus on the core technologies; ISDN, Frame Relay, bridging, routing protocols, redistribution, etc. These will represent the bulk of the points
CCIE preparation [7:31305]
I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE. I would like to know some information pertaining to preparing for this certification. I do have some access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on experience. However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part of the preparation process. Now I know that there are some must-haves out there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping up. Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab with the hands-on? Or is it a better idea to read these books while doing the hands-on? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31305t=31305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE preparation [7:31305]
You might also need / go thru the book - BGP configurtion and command reference - William Parkhurst. The book covers almost all the commands under BGP and simple example for all of those. my $0.02 rajesh Marcus Faust wrote: I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE. I would like to know some information pertaining to preparing for this certification. I do have some access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on experience. However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part of the preparation process. Now I know that there are some must-haves out there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping up. Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab with the hands-on? Or is it a better idea to read these books while doing the hands-on? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31310t=31305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE preparation [7:31305]
You will most likely read these books many times. I've found that doing the hands-on while reading the books helps me understand what is being said. At the same time, it takes some of the boredom out of trying to plow through books of this size! Hands-on experience is so critical that I can't stress it enough. When I first started doing the Cisco certification track many years ago, I learned a quick lesson that the real world is very unlike book-learning. So, my suggestion is to read the books while doing the hands-on. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Marcus Faust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE preparation [7:31305] I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE. I would like to know some information pertaining to preparing for this certification. I do have some access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on experience. However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part of the preparation process. Now I know that there are some must-haves out there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping up. Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab with the hands-on? Or is it a better idea to read these books while doing the hands-on? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31312t=31305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE preparation [7:31305]
The written exam is primarily theory and background, with some (but not an overwhelming) amount of Cisco IOS content. Follow the blueprint and check out the recommended reading list: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html For the Lab exam, here are a number of links providing the basics for it: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/exam_preparation/lab.html http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/new_format.html - Original Message - From: Rajesh Kumar To: Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:49 AM Subject: Re: CCIE preparation [7:31305] You might also need / go thru the book - BGP configurtion and command reference - William Parkhurst. The book covers almost all the commands under BGP and simple example for all of those. my $0.02 rajesh Marcus Faust wrote: I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE. I would like to know some information pertaining to preparing for this certification. I do have some access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on experience. However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part of the preparation process. Now I know that there are some must-haves out there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping up. Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab with the hands-on? Or is it a better idea to read these books while doing the hands-on? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31315t=31305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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, adjusting Administrative Distances, as well as summary, default and static routes. You never know when these will come in useful. Search on-line for resources that might be useful sources of equipment, practice labs, advice, configurations, etc. Remember the old standards: www.groupstudy.com, ccbootcmp, www.fatkid.com and, of course, www.cisco.com. Budget your time like you would budget your money, conservatively. Once you've got a lab date, review the exam blueprint and figure out how much time to spend on each technology, leaving at least 30% of your available time for performing multi-technology labs, like the ones from Ccbootcmp. Formalize your notes. When you force yourself to write something for others, it forces you to really understand what your talking about. Don't exclude your spouse, children, friends and significant others. While the CCIE is a valuable certification, its meaningless without having people around who can help you spend the money once you get it. I know one fellow who taught his wife the basics of IOS so she could introduce problems into a finished configuration to help him practice troubleshooting (not a formal part of the exam any longer, but still something you better know on lab day). Enjoying the actual Lab experience: Don't start entering configuration commands until your initial network design is complete, carefully detailing IP addresses, masks, routing areas, links, tunnels, etc. If you can bring colored pencils with you to the lab, do so. Create a network diagram that works for you, perhaps with each routing protocol in a different color. You'll be provided paper in the lab, and it may be quite large, but practice doing your diagrams on a single 8.5 x 11 sheet; it will make it much easier to manage in the very small cubicle space you're likely to have on lab-day. Use a list of well practiced alias commands. These will save keystrokes and the frustration of mis-keyed commands. Make sure you know how to disable DNS lookups and prevent messages appearing on the screen while you're working. Type up templates of common configuration elements in notepad to facilitate cut-and-pasting. I have a standard router config that includes all my aliases, loopback interfaces, line configurations, etc. Whenever I'm starting a practice lab I type it up in notepad and paste into each routers. Cutting and pasting is a lot faster and more accurate then typing things over and over again. Cut-and-paste addresses and other lengthy information from show commands to prevent mistakes. The best time to save your configurations is when you're getting ready to change routers. Get use to doing a wr just before you move from one router to another. This will make sure you save often, and avoid the long delay of watching a configuration get saved. Create ping scripts; a set of ping commands stored in text format that can be pasted into a config to test connectivity to all devices on the net. When talking to the proctor, always be respectful; keep your questions to the yes and no varieties, and notify them as quickly as possible if you suspect an equipment failure. Above all, don't create a hostile relationship with the proctor, and if they create one with you, swallow your pride and do what you need to do to keep the channels of cooperation open. Consider it good practice for the real world later. -Original Message- From: Marcus Faust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE preparation [7:31305] I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE. I would like to know some information pertaining to preparing for this certification. I do have some access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on experience. However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part of the preparation process. Now I know that there are some must-haves out there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping up. Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab with the hands-on? Or is it a better idea to read these books while doing the hands-on? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31324t=31305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Preparation
Hey guys do you know how good of a read is the following book in preparation for the CCIE written:- TITLE: CCIE Fundamentals: Network Design and Case Studies Need the 411 on this Peace!
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Raymond, It is a very good source for the CCIE written but must be supplemented. For example: the book talks about the RIF and RII but does not go as much in-depth as you will need. It is a very good place to start or review. You can also use it in studying for the CID test. -Original Message-From: Raymond Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:39 AMTo: GroupstudySubject: CCIE Preparation Hey guys do you know how good of a read is the following book in preparation for the CCIE written:- TITLE: CCIE Fundamentals: Network Design and Case Studies Need the 411 on this Peace!
Re: CCIE Preparation
I would suggest it more as a supplemental book for the CCIE lab - for examples of configs, etc. Did skim through it for BGP examples, but that was cause I kept putting off getting the Halabi book waiting for the 2nd Ed to be released. What you should read are the bibles:- Routing TCP/IP Internet Routing Architectures Interconnections You might need to supplement with some others for bits and pieces of info... the best Token Ring bridging coverage for the exam I found was from various papers from Cisco and others found on the Net. Also Cisco Internetwork Design has TR stuff that gets useful. Regards, Adrian ""Raymond Smith"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 012e01c011cf$4621da20$a70a4f0c@raymonds">news:012e01c011cf$4621da20$a70a4f0c@raymonds... Hey guys do you know how good of a read is the following book in preparation for the CCIE written:- TITLE: CCIE Fundamentals: Network Design and Case Studies Need the 411 on this Peace! ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seeking advice on a CCIE preparation course in the NY/NJ metro area
My boss has agreed to pay for a CCIE preparation class up to $10,000, plus all the Cisco books I want. I'm a CCNA with good experience and a decent home lab (4 2501s and a 2900 switch.) Can anyone recommend a school, university etc.. offering this type of training in the NY/NJ metro area. The more challenging and intense the program the better. Not looking for a newbie course or 2 day scam seminar. Night school and/or weekend school ofcourse. Please respond to this email message with your advice. Thanks in advance for any help. Best regards and good luck to all! Tony ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
