RE: CCIE Written Reading List ? [7:74317]
All that I have seen is everyone saying Bruce Caslow, CCIE practical studies, Doyle Vol. 1, and Halabi. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=74319t=74317 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
CCIE Written Reading List ? [7:74317]
I own the following CCIE related books. I am currently studying for the CCIE written. I have read 95% of TCP/IP Volume 1, about 50% of Cisco Lan Switching, and about 30% of CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Certification Guide. But what I would like to do is cover only the necessary material and move forward onto the lab. My question is of the books listed below, which are absolutely necessary reads to take the CCIE written? Keep in mind that I do posses a current CCNP and have read all of the pre-requisite CIsco Press books from the CCNP Certification Library. Here is the list of Books: Routing TCP/IP V I Routing TCP/IP V II IOS 12.0 QOS Cisco Lan Switching CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Certification Guide Internet Routing Architectures Developing IP Multicast networks Cisco VOice over Frame, ATM, and IP MPLS and VPN Architectures CCIE Pratical Studies Cisco Certification: Bridges, routers and Switches for CCIE's TCP/IP Illustrated Volume I Advanced IP ROuting in Cisco Networks I am trying to narrow the list so that I can take the written at the end of December during the Holiday season. Also any suggestions on how I should be doing this? Should I take notes as I read? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=74317t=74317 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: CCIE Written Reading List ? [7:74317]
Sounds like your on the right track with reading material. I would pick up a copy of Caslow's book - some of the material is a little dated, but the frame relay section is one of the best I've read anywhere. In addition, if you can find a good buy on TCP/IP vol II buy it. There is some good BGP multicasting examples and a decent introduction to IPv6. CCIE practical studies will be a good book for the lab, but if you see a good buy on it - don't pass it up. I think most importantly you will want to familiarize yourself with all of the URL's at the bottom of the blueprint. Many of the obscure technologies on the blueprint can only be found in those URL's. I think that if I had spent more time reading those the first time, I would have saved myself $300. Here are a couple great web resources for this exam: www.writtenexam.com - Excellent site by Dennis Laganiere www.ccprep.com - Check out the Token Ring document under Resources Good luck! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=74350t=74317 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: CCIE Written Reading List ? [7:74317]
Again these are not books that I am thinking of buying. I already own all of the books that I have listed. I am just trying to narrow the list a little. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=74355t=74317 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: GuideLine book for CCIE Written [7:73925]
Just because someone has something nice to say doesn't mean it was self-generated... :-) Thank you for the kind words Doug; I hope you do well on the exam... --- Dennis Laganiere - Original Message - From: Kaminski, Shawn G To: Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: RE: GuideLine book for CCIE Written [7:73925] Who's Doug? Dennis' clone? :-) Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Thomas Larus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 1:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GuideLine book for CCIE Written [7:73925] Look into Dennis Laganiere's and Brad Ellis' Study Guide for the CCIE written. I got a deal on it through Amazon.com. Laganiere makes a good search term. Check out Dennis Laganiere's website, too. www.laganiere.net I am amazed how much advice he gives away. As someone who is almost finished with a book of advice and learning labs, I can say that the amount of advice he gives away for free convinced me that I could not write a little book with just advice about preparing for the CCIE. Thus, the advice is a small part of my book, and the scenarios and explanations of the scenarios are the major part. Thanks, Doug, for making me work harder. Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 Piedrahita Orlando wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all my name is Orlando, and i am starting to peruse the CCIE written, I am aware that there is no magic book to prepare you for the test, i am however looking for a book to be used as an OUTLINE to study. Currently i have bought the TCP IP Vol1 TCP IP Vol2 by Jeff Doyle and Lan switching from CCIE Development by Kennedy Clark, Kevin Hamilton Any recomendations, thank you! **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73957t=73925 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
GuideLine book for CCIE Written [7:73925]
Hi all my name is Orlando, and i am starting to peruse the CCIE written, I am aware that there is no magic book to prepare you for the test, i am however looking for a book to be used as an OUTLINE to study. Currently i have bought the TCP IP Vol1 TCP IP Vol2 by Jeff Doyle and Lan switching from CCIE Development by Kennedy Clark, Kevin Hamilton Any recomendations, thank you! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73925t=73925 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: GuideLine book for CCIE Written [7:73925]
Thank you for the info, that was good information i also got a hold of CCIE secretes, for anybody that might be interested check out the link below: http://www.cciesecrets.net Thanks again. Orlando Piedrahita CCNP, CCNA , SCSA, RHSA, CNA, CNE Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73942t=73925 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: GuideLine book for CCIE Written [7:73925]
Who's Doug? Dennis' clone? :-) Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Thomas Larus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 1:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GuideLine book for CCIE Written [7:73925] Look into Dennis Laganiere's and Brad Ellis' Study Guide for the CCIE written. I got a deal on it through Amazon.com. Laganiere makes a good search term. Check out Dennis Laganiere's website, too. www.laganiere.net I am amazed how much advice he gives away. As someone who is almost finished with a book of advice and learning labs, I can say that the amount of advice he gives away for free convinced me that I could not write a little book with just advice about preparing for the CCIE. Thus, the advice is a small part of my book, and the scenarios and explanations of the scenarios are the major part. Thanks, Doug, for making me work harder. Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 Piedrahita Orlando wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all my name is Orlando, and i am starting to peruse the CCIE written, I am aware that there is no magic book to prepare you for the test, i am however looking for a book to be used as an OUTLINE to study. Currently i have bought the TCP IP Vol1 TCP IP Vol2 by Jeff Doyle and Lan switching from CCIE Development by Kennedy Clark, Kevin Hamilton Any recomendations, thank you! **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73945t=73925 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: GuideLine book for CCIE Written [7:73925]
on amazon, lookup: ISBN: 1931881006 that book is a great outline/review book but doesnt have a lot of the details (use doyle's and caslow's book for that) thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Piedrahita Orlando wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all my name is Orlando, and i am starting to peruse the CCIE written, I am aware that there is no magic book to prepare you for the test, i am however looking for a book to be used as an OUTLINE to study. Currently i have bought the TCP IP Vol1 TCP IP Vol2 by Jeff Doyle and Lan switching from CCIE Development by Kennedy Clark, Kevin Hamilton Any recomendations, thank you! **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73932t=73925 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Re: GuideLine book for CCIE Written [7:73925]
Look into Dennis Laganiere's and Brad Ellis' Study Guide for the CCIE written. I got a deal on it through Amazon.com. Laganiere makes a good search term. Check out Dennis Laganiere's website, too. www.laganiere.net I am amazed how much advice he gives away. As someone who is almost finished with a book of advice and learning labs, I can say that the amount of advice he gives away for free convinced me that I could not write a little book with just advice about preparing for the CCIE. Thus, the advice is a small part of my book, and the scenarios and explanations of the scenarios are the major part. Thanks, Doug, for making me work harder. Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 Piedrahita Orlando wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all my name is Orlando, and i am starting to peruse the CCIE written, I am aware that there is no magic book to prepare you for the test, i am however looking for a book to be used as an OUTLINE to study. Currently i have bought the TCP IP Vol1 TCP IP Vol2 by Jeff Doyle and Lan switching from CCIE Development by Kennedy Clark, Kevin Hamilton Any recomendations, thank you! **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73927t=73925 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
CCIE Written [7:73867]
I am under the impression that similar to the CCIP level exams the questions are grouped under each section i.e. an equal amount of questions under ip routing section and QoS so on and so forth. Is this assumation accurate? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73867t=73867 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: Revisited - Is the CCIE Written a valid certification? [7:72664]
Funny, Cisco would do something like that. :-) I would expect to see something like the CCIP which has been on for over 2 years now or the CCSP but CCIE written..Well, we all know that this is NOT a certification!! Anyways From: Daniel Cotts Reply-To: Daniel Cotts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Revisited - Is the CCIE Written a valid certification? [7:72611] Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:23:13 GMT Cisco Training Seminars have used that format for years.-Original Message- From: Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Revisited - Is the CCIE Written a valid certification? [7:72609] Well, apparently Cisco now thinks so. I was registering for one of Cisco's Webinars, and ran across this question: Please check your Attendee Certification Level (Check all that apply) CCDA CCDP CCNA CCNP CCIE Written CCIE Lab Let's see how long this thread misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72664t=72664 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Revisited - Is the CCIE Written a valid certification? [7:72609]
Well, apparently Cisco now thinks so. I was registering for one of Cisco's Webinars, and ran across this question: Please check your Attendee Certification Level (Check all that apply) CCDA CCDP CCNA CCNP CCIE Written CCIE Lab Let's see how long this thread lasts this time. :- Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72609t=72609 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Revisited - Is the CCIE Written a valid certification? [7:72611]
Cisco Training Seminars have used that format for years. -Original Message- From: Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Revisited - Is the CCIE Written a valid certification? [7:72609] Well, apparently Cisco now thinks so. I was registering for one of Cisco's Webinars, and ran across this question: Please check your Attendee Certification Level (Check all that apply) CCDA CCDP CCNA CCNP CCIE Written CCIE Lab Let's see how long this thread lasts this time. :- Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72611t=72611 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sample CCIE written exam questions [7:71217]
Rooban, have you found the free sample CCIE written exam questions? If so, I am interested in that too. Thanks! Also, if you go to http://www.boson.com/products/66717.htm?ID=1084 the #3 is said to be a good sample exam. I haven't tried it yet but you can download a couple of questions for free. Ellie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71314t=71217 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sample CCIE written exam questions [7:71217]
Where Can I find, free sample CCIE written exam questions ? = cheers, rooban http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Check compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71217t=71217 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written [7:70117]
Sure, Have a look at: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/le11/learning_ccie_exam_blueprint09186a00800b4c95.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70202t=70117 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Depth of study required for CCIE Written [7:70246]
Dear All I am planning to take my CCIE written exams in near future. I have a few queries regarding the depth of knowledge required for the written exams on certain topics. 1. ATM -- Do they go on for asking on config of ATM on Cisco ATM switches or focus is on using ATM as a layer 2 tech. and configuring the routers to use ATM VC's 2. All Tpoics covered under Multiservice in CCIE Blueprint i.e Voice/Video (H323) codecs SS7 RTP RTCP SIP MPLS As few of this topic requires a five day course in itself esp MPLS I would also like to know any good reference material for following topics covered under WAN WAN 1. ISDN (LAPD, BRI/PRI framing, signaling, mapping, NI1s, dialer map, interface types, B/D channel, channel bonding) 2. Frame Relay (LMIs, DLCI, PVC, framing, traffic shaping, FECN, BECN, CIR, DE, Mapping, compression) 3. X.25 (addressing, routing, LAPB, error control/recovery, windowing, signaling, mapping, SVC/PVC, Protocol Translation) 4. ATM (PVC/SVC, AAL, SSCOP, UNI/NNI, ILMI, Cell format, QoS, RFC 1483, PNNI, mapping) 5. Physical Layer (Synchronization, SONET, T1, E1, encoding) 6. Leased Line Protocols (HDLC, PPP, Async modems, compression) 7. PoS 8. DPT/SRP Your feedback on same would be really helpfull. Regards Swapnil Shah Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70246t=70246 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Depth of study required for CCIE Written [7:70246]
Hello, Please finish the CCNP Material that is available first.Then start with Lan switching by Kennedy clark,Routing with TCP/IP Vol 1 2 to start with.Then please do get in touch with me. They are decent reading material to start with. -- Regards, Rajagopal. 95250-2463729/02502463729/912502463729. Swapnil Shah wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear All I am planning to take my CCIE written exams in near future. I have a few queries regarding the depth of knowledge required for the written exams on certain topics. 1. ATM -- Do they go on for asking on config of ATM on Cisco ATM switches or focus is on using ATM as a layer 2 tech. and configuring the routers to use ATM VC's 2. All Tpoics covered under Multiservice in CCIE Blueprint i.e Voice/Video (H323) codecs SS7 RTP RTCP SIP MPLS As few of this topic requires a five day course in itself esp MPLS I would also like to know any good reference material for following topics covered under WAN WAN 1. ISDN (LAPD, BRI/PRI framing, signaling, mapping, NI1s, dialer map, interface types, B/D channel, channel bonding) 2. Frame Relay (LMIs, DLCI, PVC, framing, traffic shaping, FECN, BECN, CIR, DE, Mapping, compression) 3. X.25 (addressing, routing, LAPB, error control/recovery, windowing, signaling, mapping, SVC/PVC, Protocol Translation) 4. ATM (PVC/SVC, AAL, SSCOP, UNI/NNI, ILMI, Cell format, QoS, RFC 1483, PNNI, mapping) 5. Physical Layer (Synchronization, SONET, T1, E1, encoding) 6. Leased Line Protocols (HDLC, PPP, Async modems, compression) 7. PoS 8. DPT/SRP Your feedback on same would be really helpfull. Regards Swapnil Shah Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70264t=70246 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Depth of study required for CCIE Written [7:70246]
A lot of people have said that the time to try the written is not long after cc*p completion, all that info is still pretty fresh in your head. Add the few new things that are unique to the IE, and take a whack at it. Brian The path to a desireable destination is often more difficult than the path to stay where you are. On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Rajagopal Iyengar wrote: Hello, Please finish the CCNP Material that is available first.Then start with Lan switching by Kennedy clark,Routing with TCP/IP Vol 1 2 to start with.Then please do get in touch with me. They are decent reading material to start with. -- Regards, Rajagopal. 95250-2463729/02502463729/912502463729. Swapnil Shah wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear All I am planning to take my CCIE written exams in near future. I have a few queries regarding the depth of knowledge required for the written exams on certain topics. 1. ATM -- Do they go on for asking on config of ATM on Cisco ATM switches or focus is on using ATM as a layer 2 tech. and configuring the routers to use ATM VC's 2. All Tpoics covered under Multiservice in CCIE Blueprint i.e Voice/Video (H323) codecs SS7 RTP RTCP SIP MPLS As few of this topic requires a five day course in itself esp MPLS I would also like to know any good reference material for following topics covered under WAN WAN 1. ISDN (LAPD, BRI/PRI framing, signaling, mapping, NI1s, dialer map, interface types, B/D channel, channel bonding) 2. Frame Relay (LMIs, DLCI, PVC, framing, traffic shaping, FECN, BECN, CIR, DE, Mapping, compression) 3. X.25 (addressing, routing, LAPB, error control/recovery, windowing, signaling, mapping, SVC/PVC, Protocol Translation) 4. ATM (PVC/SVC, AAL, SSCOP, UNI/NNI, ILMI, Cell format, QoS, RFC 1483, PNNI, mapping) 5. Physical Layer (Synchronization, SONET, T1, E1, encoding) 6. Leased Line Protocols (HDLC, PPP, Async modems, compression) 7. PoS 8. DPT/SRP Your feedback on same would be really helpfull. Regards Swapnil Shah Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70280t=70246 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written [7:70117]
Okay gang, what should I study last minute? Anyone give any pointers? I need to lay the smack down on this next week. Can anyone hook a brutha up? Cheers Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70117t=70117 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written preparation [7:69384]
I took the CCIE Written yesterday just to see how difficult it was. It is the most difficult exam that I've ever seen except maybe for the MCSE 2000 Accelerated. I would advise anyone planning to take this exam not to take it lightly. It is difficult, much more difficult than the old one. I've taken and passed both the CCNP and CCDP recertification exams recently and they are easy compared to this. Don't waste your $300 if you don't know ALL the topics listed in the blueprint. I saw questions in the exam from every topic listed in the blueprint. I congratulate the exam designers/writers for making it this difficult. You really have to know a lot and be able to understand the topics in depth in order to pass. Vijay Ramcharan -Original Message- From: Weaselboy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Written preparation [7:69384] There is a good reading list at: http://home.attbi.com/~blaga/Written.htm On Wed, 2003-05-21 at 16:49, Sam Deckert wrote: Hi everyone, Just a quick one - what books would you recommend in preparing for the current CCIE written examination? My employer has given me the go ahead, and would like to know what books I require for my self study. Any suggestions of books you have found helpful would be appreciated. Cheers! Sam. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69760t=69384 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about the Revised RS CCIE Written Exam [7:66715]
70% On Wednesday 02 April 2003 05:11 pm, Mirza, Timur wrote: do you know what the pass mark is? -Original Message- From: Karsten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question about the Revised RS CCIE Written Exam [7:66715] A ccie at Boson told me it was 120. -Karsten On Wednesday 02 April 2003 02:07 pm, Zahid Hassan wrote: Dear All, Could someone please confirm about the number of questions in the new RS written exam after March 28 2003 as it is not mentioned on CCIE information page. Thanks in advance. Regards, Zahid Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66754t=66715 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RS CCIE Written Question [7:66619]
Yes! it does have a lot of redistribution questions on EIGRP and IPX with complicated scenarios. I didn't have any on AppleTalk. Tim Champion wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Does the RS written exam include any questions on EIGRP being used for IPX or Appletalk? Many thanks Tim Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66673t=66619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE written exam passed! [7:66364]
Can you tell us the minimum passing score for the CCIE wrtiiren test? I realized Cisco has changed the written to a 2hr/100 Qs format starting 3/28. Thanks, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66693t=66364 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question about the Revised RS CCIE Written Exam [7:66715]
Dear All, Could someone please confirm about the number of questions in the new RS written exam after March 28 2003 as it is not mentioned on CCIE information page. Thanks in advance. Regards, Zahid Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66715t=66715 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about the Revised RS CCIE Written Exam [7:66715]
A ccie at Boson told me it was 120. -Karsten On Wednesday 02 April 2003 02:07 pm, Zahid Hassan wrote: Dear All, Could someone please confirm about the number of questions in the new RS written exam after March 28 2003 as it is not mentioned on CCIE information page. Thanks in advance. Regards, Zahid Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66719t=66715 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question about the Revised RS CCIE Written Exam [7:66715]
do you know what the pass mark is? -Original Message- From: Karsten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question about the Revised RS CCIE Written Exam [7:66715] A ccie at Boson told me it was 120. -Karsten On Wednesday 02 April 2003 02:07 pm, Zahid Hassan wrote: Dear All, Could someone please confirm about the number of questions in the new RS written exam after March 28 2003 as it is not mentioned on CCIE information page. Thanks in advance. Regards, Zahid Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66725t=66715 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ccie written [7:66604]
Has the content of the test changed too?? Or, has the time and the number of questions changed? Jake Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66604t=66604 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New 2 hour CCIE Written Exam [7:66563]
I tried the 3 hours exam last september, just after the change. The score was higher than lately (70%). I failed but went back to the books and have learned a lot, also with the help of this groupstudy. I do not mind if the test is difficult if it represents that the guy worked a lot to get it. Now, with the changes, I am wondering if the test will be easier and consequentely less representative. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66606t=66563 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RS CCIE Written Question [7:66619]
Does the RS written exam include any questions on EIGRP being used for IPX or Appletalk? Many thanks Tim Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66619t=66619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New 2 hour CCIE Written Exam [7:66563]
Has anyone taken the new 2 hour exam yet? I understand that it has changed from 3 hours to two hours. I just changed on the 28th but I thought maybe somebody took the test over the weekend. I wanted to know how many questions are on the new exam. The old one was 150 and I believe someone stated earlier that they received an e-mail from Cisco stating that the number of questions was also decreasing to 100 instead of 150. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66563t=66563 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New 2 hour CCIE Written Exam [7:66563]
i'm scheduled for the written on 4/11 i took the new one in november, which was 3 hrs 300 questions...so now it changed again, that's news to me -Original Message- From: Stepp Harless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New 2 hour CCIE Written Exam [7:66563] Has anyone taken the new 2 hour exam yet? I understand that it has changed from 3 hours to two hours. I just changed on the 28th but I thought maybe somebody took the test over the weekend. I wanted to know how many questions are on the new exam. The old one was 150 and I believe someone stated earlier that they received an e-mail from Cisco stating that the number of questions was also decreasing to 100 instead of 150. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66569t=66563 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 2 hour CCIE Written Exam [7:66563]
Here's what the CCO has to say about it... http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#1 There's nothing about changing topics. Just the time you're given... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Stepp Harless To: Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: New 2 hour CCIE Written Exam [7:66563] Has anyone taken the new 2 hour exam yet? I understand that it has changed from 3 hours to two hours. I just changed on the 28th but I thought maybe somebody took the test over the weekend. I wanted to know how many questions are on the new exam. The old one was 150 and I believe someone stated earlier that they received an e-mail from Cisco stating that the number of questions was also decreasing to 100 instead of 150. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66581t=66563 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bridging in CCIE written exam [7:66484]
Hi all, Can anyone give me some information on how much bridging is asked in the new CCIE Routing and Switching written exam? Thanks, Imran. = Imran Moin Network Engineering and Operations University of Colorado, Boulder CCNA, CCNP (switching) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66484t=66484 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE written exam passed! [7:66364]
My heartiest congratulations to you. You're half-way through the CCIE cloud. It'll be sunshine pretty soon. Start preparing by gathering up some routers (4 to 6 routers would be ideal), preferably an IOS L-3 switch, and a bunch of serial and LAN cables. Start reviewing from the ground up, ie. perfect your FR skills before tackling OSPF. Then get yourself a copy (if you haven't got them already) of Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP Vol. 1 and 2 books. Also, Internet Routing Architectures by Sam Halabi. It's a very good BGP book. Good luck on your preparation. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66366t=66364 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE written exam passed! [7:66364]
To all, I passed the CCIE written exam passed today, thanks for everybody helps! Now I need some advice of where and how to start for my Lab exam which will be schedule somewhere by October or November of 2003. Any suggestion or input regarding this matter is very much appreciated! Again, thanks to all the members this group. Xy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66364t=66364 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written Ramp;S [7:65972]
You can purchase it from our website, or from amazon.com, or your local barnes and noble bookstore. NLI's Study Guide for The CCIE RS Written Exam ISBN# 1931881006 thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccbootcamp.com (cisco training) rbx10 Defcom wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Thom, What is the name of Dennis book so I can buy it right now.. rbx10Thomas Larus wrote: I think Dennis Laganiere's own CCIE prep book is very good. He is too polite to mention it here himself, but I think people should know about it. I like how it covers a vast array of topics in a summary fashion, but goes into considerable depth when it comes to especially difficult topics that cry out for in-depth coverage (like RIFs). It is a great way to cover the material for this particular exam. I bought it recently from Amazon for 30-some dollars to assess its usefulness for early stage CCIE preparation. It is worth more than it costs, in my opinion. Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 Dennis Laganiere wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi rbx10... I would say that you need to read many of the same books you'll need to read for the lab anyway. I put together a list of books I thought are important, along with some preparation advice, at www.laganiere.net I hope you find it useful... Thanks... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: rbx10 Defcom To: Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: CCIE written RS [7:65972] To All the CCIEs out there: I'm a newbie to CCIE...:-) I'm currently trying to prepare for my written Exam And honestly it's very puzzling and scary These are the books that I have read so far: LAN switching, Clarks Routing with TCP/IP I, Doyle Internet Routing Architecture, Sam Halabai I fear that the above books are not enough. I'm also going to read every last one of the Cisco recommended links. I was wondering if you could please tell me: 1) What book do I use to study for IP Multicast, QOS, and Multiservice. 2) What should I focus on the most (Especially For those of you who recently took the exam) 3) If I need to buy more books Thank you all very much in advance for your response. rbx10, CCNA CCNP CCIE in training Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66044t=65972 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written RS [7:65972]
Bro.. Be easy, just follow the blue print for the written exam and make sure you understand the material. If at anytime you feel you don't understand something look it up on CCO and if still uncertain just post your questions here and I am sure someone will be able to help. Once you feel confident for the sit down try some practice exam (Boson) before you actually site for the test. Enjoy the ride. rbx10 Defcom wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To All the CCIEs out there: I'm a newbie to CCIE...:-) I'm currently trying to prepare for my written Exam And honestly it's very puzzling and scary These are the books that I have read so far: LAN switching, Clarks Routing with TCP/IP I, Doyle Internet Routing Architecture, Sam Halabai I fear that the above books are not enough. I'm also going to read every last one of the Cisco recommended links. I was wondering if you could please tell me: 1) What book do I use to study for IP Multicast, QOS, and Multiservice. 2) What should I focus on the most (Especially For those of you who recently took the exam) 3) If I need to buy more books Thank you all very much in advance for your response. rbx10, CCNA CCNP CCIE in training Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65976t=65972 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written RS [7:65972]
Hi rbx10... I would say that you need to read many of the same books you'll need to read for the lab anyway. I put together a list of books I thought are important, along with some preparation advice, at www.laganiere.net I hope you find it useful... Thanks... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: rbx10 Defcom To: Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: CCIE written RS [7:65972] To All the CCIEs out there: I'm a newbie to CCIE...:-) I'm currently trying to prepare for my written Exam And honestly it's very puzzling and scary These are the books that I have read so far: LAN switching, Clarks Routing with TCP/IP I, Doyle Internet Routing Architecture, Sam Halabai I fear that the above books are not enough. I'm also going to read every last one of the Cisco recommended links. I was wondering if you could please tell me: 1) What book do I use to study for IP Multicast, QOS, and Multiservice. 2) What should I focus on the most (Especially For those of you who recently took the exam) 3) If I need to buy more books Thank you all very much in advance for your response. rbx10, CCNA CCNP CCIE in training Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65992t=65972 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written RS [7:65972]
I think Dennis Laganiere's own CCIE prep book is very good. He is too polite to mention it here himself, but I think people should know about it. I like how it covers a vast array of topics in a summary fashion, but goes into considerable depth when it comes to especially difficult topics that cry out for in-depth coverage (like RIFs). It is a great way to cover the material for this particular exam. I bought it recently from Amazon for 30-some dollars to assess its usefulness for early stage CCIE preparation. It is worth more than it costs, in my opinion. Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 Dennis Laganiere wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi rbx10... I would say that you need to read many of the same books you'll need to read for the lab anyway. I put together a list of books I thought are important, along with some preparation advice, at www.laganiere.net I hope you find it useful... Thanks... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: rbx10 Defcom To: Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: CCIE written RS [7:65972] To All the CCIEs out there: I'm a newbie to CCIE...:-) I'm currently trying to prepare for my written Exam And honestly it's very puzzling and scary These are the books that I have read so far: LAN switching, Clarks Routing with TCP/IP I, Doyle Internet Routing Architecture, Sam Halabai I fear that the above books are not enough. I'm also going to read every last one of the Cisco recommended links. I was wondering if you could please tell me: 1) What book do I use to study for IP Multicast, QOS, and Multiservice. 2) What should I focus on the most (Especially For those of you who recently took the exam) 3) If I need to buy more books Thank you all very much in advance for your response. rbx10, CCNA CCNP CCIE in training Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66001t=65972 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]
I spent several months last year updating everything to the new blueprint (as I'm sure every other author did), and I think it's now representative of what's out there. That said, the new exam is much toughter; you're lucky you passed the old one. Make sure you don't let your status slip... :-) --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Logan, Harold To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: RE: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104] Dennis, Has your Boson test been updated for the new written? I found your old test very helpful when I took the old written, and I have a friend who is getting ready for the new one. Thanks, Hal Logan CCAI, CCDP, CCNP: Voice Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104] I recently revised the list of the book I thought were useful for this exam at www.laganiere.net, let me know if you find it useful... --- Dennis Laganiere - Original Message - From: Troy Leliard To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: RE: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104] I think you should be asking good books? :) I am currently using Bruces Caslows, Routing and Switching, New Cisco Press CCIE book, and the Cisco Press CCIE - Practical Book. I think the best way to tackle the big one is to start a file yourself, an in it have a chapter for each topic that appears on the blueprint, methodically go through each topic and research if from a number of sources (books, white papers, RFC's) etc, Obviously, topics where you are stronger needs less detail. And of course back it all up with hands on. Even for the written ecam, memory retention, I find is always better when I have worked through a lab or section of a lab. The idea being that you will cover everything off, and realise that the area's you dont like, you need to put in a little but more work. At the end of it and, when you get the email saying congrats, you're ccie is you can then sell you file and get it published :) hehehe, then future ccie wannabies will be asking,.what is s good bookm, and you can recommend your own. :) Good luck studying! Skarphedinsson Arni V. wrote: Can anyone recomend a good book for CCIE Written preperation ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66006t=65104 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written RS [7:65972]
Dennis... thanks a million my friend. Your site has really giving me a start to face on how to best prepare for this exam. When I PASS I'll have you think primarily Thanks again rbx10 :-) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66009t=65972 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written RS [7:65972]
Thanks Thom, What is the name of Dennis book so I can buy it right now.. rbx10Thomas Larus wrote: I think Dennis Laganiere's own CCIE prep book is very good. He is too polite to mention it here himself, but I think people should know about it. I like how it covers a vast array of topics in a summary fashion, but goes into considerable depth when it comes to especially difficult topics that cry out for in-depth coverage (like RIFs). It is a great way to cover the material for this particular exam. I bought it recently from Amazon for 30-some dollars to assess its usefulness for early stage CCIE preparation. It is worth more than it costs, in my opinion. Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 Dennis Laganiere wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi rbx10... I would say that you need to read many of the same books you'll need to read for the lab anyway. I put together a list of books I thought are important, along with some preparation advice, at www.laganiere.net I hope you find it useful... Thanks... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: rbx10 Defcom To: Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: CCIE written RS [7:65972] To All the CCIEs out there: I'm a newbie to CCIE...:-) I'm currently trying to prepare for my written Exam And honestly it's very puzzling and scary These are the books that I have read so far: LAN switching, Clarks Routing with TCP/IP I, Doyle Internet Routing Architecture, Sam Halabai I fear that the above books are not enough. I'm also going to read every last one of the Cisco recommended links. I was wondering if you could please tell me: 1) What book do I use to study for IP Multicast, QOS, and Multiservice. 2) What should I focus on the most (Especially For those of you who recently took the exam) 3) If I need to buy more books Thank you all very much in advance for your response. rbx10, CCNA CCNP CCIE in training Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66010t=65972 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE written RS [7:65972]
To All the CCIEs out there: I'm a newbie to CCIE...:-) I'm currently trying to prepare for my written Exam And honestly it's very puzzling and scary These are the books that I have read so far: LAN switching, Clarks Routing with TCP/IP I, Doyle Internet Routing Architecture, Sam Halabai I fear that the above books are not enough. I'm also going to read every last one of the Cisco recommended links. I was wondering if you could please tell me: 1) What book do I use to study for IP Multicast, QOS, and Multiservice. 2) What should I focus on the most (Especially For those of you who recently took the exam) 3) If I need to buy more books Thank you all very much in advance for your response. rbx10, CCNA CCNP CCIE in training Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65972t=65972 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]
I think you should be asking good books? :) I am currently using Bruces Caslows, Routing and Switching, New Cisco Press CCIE book, and the Cisco Press CCIE - Practical Book. I think the best way to tackle the big one is to start a file yourself, an in it have a chapter for each topic that appears on the blueprint, methodically go through each topic and research if from a number of sources (books, white papers, RFC's) etc, Obviously, topics where you are stronger needs less detail. And of course back it all up with hands on. Even for the written ecam, memory retention, I find is always better when I have worked through a lab or section of a lab. The idea being that you will cover everything off, and realise that the area's you dont like, you need to put in a little but more work. At the end of it and, when you get the email saying congrats, you're ccie is you can then sell you file and get it published :) hehehe, then future ccie wannabies will be asking,.what is s good bookm, and you can recommend your own. :) Good luck studying! Skarphedinsson Arni V. wrote: Can anyone recomend a good book for CCIE Written preperation ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65135t=65104 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]
I recently revised the list of the book I thought were useful for this exam at www.laganiere.net, let me know if you find it useful... --- Dennis Laganiere - Original Message - From: Troy Leliard To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: RE: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104] I think you should be asking good books? :) I am currently using Bruces Caslows, Routing and Switching, New Cisco Press CCIE book, and the Cisco Press CCIE - Practical Book. I think the best way to tackle the big one is to start a file yourself, an in it have a chapter for each topic that appears on the blueprint, methodically go through each topic and research if from a number of sources (books, white papers, RFC's) etc, Obviously, topics where you are stronger needs less detail. And of course back it all up with hands on. Even for the written ecam, memory retention, I find is always better when I have worked through a lab or section of a lab. The idea being that you will cover everything off, and realise that the area's you dont like, you need to put in a little but more work. At the end of it and, when you get the email saying congrats, you're ccie is you can then sell you file and get it published :) hehehe, then future ccie wannabies will be asking,.what is s good bookm, and you can recommend your own. :) Good luck studying! Skarphedinsson Arni V. wrote: Can anyone recomend a good book for CCIE Written preperation ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65177t=65104 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]
Dennis, Has your Boson test been updated for the new written? I found your old test very helpful when I took the old written, and I have a friend who is getting ready for the new one. Thanks, Hal Logan CCAI, CCDP, CCNP: Voice Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104] I recently revised the list of the book I thought were useful for this exam at www.laganiere.net, let me know if you find it useful... --- Dennis Laganiere - Original Message - From: Troy Leliard To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: RE: Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104] I think you should be asking good books? :) I am currently using Bruces Caslows, Routing and Switching, New Cisco Press CCIE book, and the Cisco Press CCIE - Practical Book. I think the best way to tackle the big one is to start a file yourself, an in it have a chapter for each topic that appears on the blueprint, methodically go through each topic and research if from a number of sources (books, white papers, RFC's) etc, Obviously, topics where you are stronger needs less detail. And of course back it all up with hands on. Even for the written ecam, memory retention, I find is always better when I have worked through a lab or section of a lab. The idea being that you will cover everything off, and realise that the area's you dont like, you need to put in a little but more work. At the end of it and, when you get the email saying congrats, you're ccie is you can then sell you file and get it published :) hehehe, then future ccie wannabies will be asking,.what is s good bookm, and you can recommend your own. :) Good luck studying! Skarphedinsson Arni V. wrote: Can anyone recomend a good book for CCIE Written preperation ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65202t=65104 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good book for CCIE Written Prep [7:65104]
Can anyone recomend a good book for CCIE Written preperation ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65104t=65104 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
I have an Akita dog. (pure bred) She's a year and a couple months old. She's 5 ft tall and about 100 pounds. She'll eat any cat. Dogs are superior. :) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64825t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dogs and Cats, Re: OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
John Hutchison wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have an Akita dog. (pure bred) She's a year and a couple months old. She's 5 ft tall and about 100 pounds. She'll eat any cat. Dogs are superior. :) Dogs naturally love people; cats naturally dislike people and you have to train them to be friendly. :-) Dogs have owners, cats have staff. Dogs are better. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64835t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dogs and Cats, Re: OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
Ahhh, but cats are better because dogs won't try and sit between you and your monitor; on top of your monitor swinging their tail in front of it; or lay with all their body weight on your mouse-hand, do they? Oh wait... those aren't good things, are they - never mind... At least cats sleep alot, and they generally leave you alone while their doing that, right? Just believe me, cats are better... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: Dogs and Cats, Re: OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] John Hutchison wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have an Akita dog. (pure bred) She's a year and a couple months old. She's 5 ft tall and about 100 pounds. She'll eat any cat. Dogs are superior. :) Dogs naturally love people; cats naturally dislike people and you have to train them to be friendly. :-) Dogs have owners, cats have staff. Dogs are better. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64836t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Dogs and Cats, Re: OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
You are correct about cats disliking people, I never like cat, I love dogs, Our dogs love our kids and our kids love our dogs...Our dog is part of our family..Dog are better than cats. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dogs and Cats, Re: OT Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] John Hutchison wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have an Akita dog. (pure bred) She's a year and a couple months old. She's 5 ft tall and about 100 pounds. She'll eat any cat. Dogs are superior. :) Dogs naturally love people; cats naturally dislike people and you have to train them to be friendly. :-) Dogs have owners, cats have staff. Dogs are better. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64838t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
Cats are great. Depends what kind of sauce you use thoughJust kidding. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64861t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64707t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
Johan Bornman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Yes. Cisco docs call it a hybrid protocol because it combines some link state features, yet also has hop count ( distance ) limitations. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64717t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hybrid. Johan Bornman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64718t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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EIGRP is a hybrid. It can be said that it is a distance vector routing protocol that acts like a link state routing protocol. Scott - Original Message - From: Johan Bornman To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64721t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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speaking of NDA... Dave Reza wrote: Hybrid. Johan Bornman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me. --- General George S. Patton Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64723t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me though. A hello mechanism and adjacencies does not a link state one make. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64724t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
MADMAN wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] speaking of NDA... if this is a question directly off the CCIE written it deserves to be revealed and publicly ridiculed :- Dave Reza wrote: Hybrid. Johan Bornman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me. --- General George S. Patton Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64727t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
Peter van Oene wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me though. in what way? the hop count is pretty well hidden in the dark interior of the code. all those cost numbers, the ( also somewhat hidden ) topology table, and the ( somewaht hidden ) successor table certainly give it the appearance of link state. Chuck who considers all this stuff a kind of magic A hello mechanism and adjacencies does not a link state one make. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64728t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
Maybe the fact that EIGRP has an option to turn SPLIT HORIZON on/off is a big clue towards it being a DV protocol. Last time I checked OSPF/ISIS didn't have this option ;-) Cheers, Willy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Long and Winding Road Sent: vrijdag 7 maart 2003 16:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Peter van Oene wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me though. in what way? the hop count is pretty well hidden in the dark interior of the code. all those cost numbers, the ( also somewhat hidden ) topology table, and the ( somewaht hidden ) successor table certainly give it the appearance of link state. Chuck who considers all this stuff a kind of magic A hello mechanism and adjacencies does not a link state one make. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64729t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
At 03:54 PM 3/7/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: Peter van Oene wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me though. in what way? the hop count is pretty well hidden in the dark interior of the code. all those cost numbers, the ( also somewhat hidden ) topology table, and the ( somewaht hidden ) successor table certainly give it the appearance of link state. In a link state algorithm, a router builds a complete topology table for the bounded area in which it operates and then uses a spanning tree like algorithm (dijkstra in most cases) to calculate loop free paths. EIGRP simply does not do this. Primary and secondary paths in EIGRP are calculated based upon indirect information relayed by direct neighbors only using an advanced distance vector algorithm (DUAL). I think Cisco likes to call it Hybrid since many folks feel distance vector routing is inferior to link state and thus by labelling EIGRP as the best of both approaches, Cisco has put a positive spin on the protocol. This is typical marketing garbage from one of the best spin companies on the planet (in a neck and neck race with Microsoft and Harley Davidson for that matter) Pete Chuck who considers all this stuff a kind of magic A hello mechanism and adjacencies does not a link state one make. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64732t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
At 04:31 PM 3/7/2003 +, Willy Schoots wrote: Maybe the fact that EIGRP has an option to turn SPLIT HORIZON on/off is a big clue towards it being a DV protocol. Last time I checked OSPF/ISIS didn't have this option ;-) OSPF and ISIS are actually distance vector between areas and use a strict two level hierarchy with a single backbone along with some LSP/LSA process rules that prevent loops. Cheers, Willy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Long and Winding Road Sent: vrijdag 7 maart 2003 16:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Peter van Oene wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me though. in what way? the hop count is pretty well hidden in the dark interior of the code. all those cost numbers, the ( also somewhat hidden ) topology table, and the ( somewaht hidden ) successor table certainly give it the appearance of link state. Chuck who considers all this stuff a kind of magic A hello mechanism and adjacencies does not a link state one make. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64734t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
I agree completely. I think the whole hybrid was a marketing department decision. I'm just glad to find out I wasn't the only one who thought this. scott Peter van Oene wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 03:54 PM 3/7/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: Peter van Oene wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me though. in what way? the hop count is pretty well hidden in the dark interior of the code. all those cost numbers, the ( also somewhat hidden ) topology table, and the ( somewaht hidden ) successor table certainly give it the appearance of link state. In a link state algorithm, a router builds a complete topology table for the bounded area in which it operates and then uses a spanning tree like algorithm (dijkstra in most cases) to calculate loop free paths. EIGRP simply does not do this. Primary and secondary paths in EIGRP are calculated based upon indirect information relayed by direct neighbors only using an advanced distance vector algorithm (DUAL). I think Cisco likes to call it Hybrid since many folks feel distance vector routing is inferior to link state and thus by labelling EIGRP as the best of both approaches, Cisco has put a positive spin on the protocol. This is typical marketing garbage from one of the best spin companies on the planet (in a neck and neck race with Microsoft and Harley Davidson for that matter) Pete Chuck who considers all this stuff a kind of magic A hello mechanism and adjacencies does not a link state one make. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64741t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
My netacad states: Technically, EIGRP is an advanced distance-vector routing protocol that relies on features commonly associated with link-state protocols Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64733t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
The most correct answer, IMO, is that EIGRP is an enhanced distance vector protocol. Were I taking a cisco exam though, out of your two choices I'd go with hybrid. -Original Message- From: Johan Bornman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64726t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
John Hutchison wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My netacad states: Technically, EIGRP is an advanced distance-vector routing protocol that relies on features commonly associated with link-state protocols in none of the Cisco exams I have ever taken has there ever been the more appropriate answer of it depends :- Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64745t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
The Cisco answer is hybrid, but that's a load of bullhocky. EIGRP is a DV protocol. Cisco marketing likes to call it a hybrid because it has some features that are also present in link state protocols, but they're not specifically link state features. EIGRP is NOT a link state protocol in any way. It is an advanced distance vector protocol. Period. Okay, I definitely need some coffee. :-) My head hurts and I'm grumpy. John Hybrid. Johan Bornman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64725t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way does it behave like a link state protocol. It establishes neighbor relationships and it uses hellos, as do OSPF and IS-IS, but those have nothing whatsoever to do with whether protocol is DV or LS. Some people get hung up on the complex metric, but who says DV protocols have to use only hop count? The actual operation of EIGRP is DV. There are no LS components to EIGRP. Regards, John Scott Terminiello 3/7/03 8:28:00 AM EIGRP is a hybrid. It can be said that it is a distance vector routing protocol that acts like a link state routing protocol. Scott - Original Message - From: Johan Bornman To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64752t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I seem to recall a question on the recert along those lines. I can pretty much remeber the questions but I am not going to post it. This post would help one come to the correct conclusion. Dave The Long and Winding Road wrote: MADMAN wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] speaking of NDA... if this is a question directly off the CCIE written it deserves to be revealed and publicly ridiculed :- Dave Reza wrote: Hybrid. Johan Bornman wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me. --- General George S. Patton -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me. --- General George S. Patton Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64738t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
I agree 100%, it is ENHANCED, read glorified, IGRP. Dave John Neiberger wrote: This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way does it behave like a link state protocol. It establishes neighbor relationships and it uses hellos, as do OSPF and IS-IS, but those have nothing whatsoever to do with whether protocol is DV or LS. Some people get hung up on the complex metric, but who says DV protocols have to use only hop count? The actual operation of EIGRP is DV. There are no LS components to EIGRP. Regards, John Scott Terminiello 3/7/03 8:28:00 AM EIGRP is a hybrid. It can be said that it is a distance vector routing protocol that acts like a link state routing protocol. Scott - Original Message - From: Johan Bornman To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me. --- General George S. Patton Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64773t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
MADMAN wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree 100%, it is ENHANCED, read glorified, IGRP. the REAL question is which is better, EIGRP or L3 switching? ;- Dave John Neiberger wrote: This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way does it behave like a link state protocol. It establishes neighbor relationships and it uses hellos, as do OSPF and IS-IS, but those have nothing whatsoever to do with whether protocol is DV or LS. Some people get hung up on the complex metric, but who says DV protocols have to use only hop count? The actual operation of EIGRP is DV. There are no LS components to EIGRP. Regards, John Scott Terminiello 3/7/03 8:28:00 AM EIGRP is a hybrid. It can be said that it is a distance vector routing protocol that acts like a link state routing protocol. Scott - Original Message - From: Johan Bornman To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me. --- General George S. Patton Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64775t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
At 09:30 PM 3/7/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: MADMAN wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree 100%, it is ENHANCED, read glorified, IGRP. the REAL question is which is better, EIGRP or L3 switching? ;- I'm working on a draft for ARP switching. Still struggling with what layer it works at though and what it specifically does. I'll let you know when I'm finished. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64782t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
At 9:12 PM + 3/7/03, MADMAN wrote: I agree 100%, it is ENHANCED, read glorified, IGRP. Dave While it isn't link state, the DUAL algorithm is completely different than that of IGRP. John Neiberger wrote: This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way does it behave like a link state protocol. It establishes neighbor relationships and it uses hellos, as do OSPF and IS-IS, but those have nothing whatsoever to do with whether protocol is DV or LS. Some people get hung up on the complex metric, but who says DV protocols have to use only hop count? The actual operation of EIGRP is DV. There are no LS components to EIGRP. Regards, John Scott Terminiello 3/7/03 8:28:00 AM EIGRP is a hybrid. It can be said that it is a distance vector routing protocol that acts like a link state routing protocol. Scott - Original Message - From: Johan Bornman To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me. --- General George S. Patton Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64785t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
That is true but that behavior is not specific to link state protocols. I've already deleted the earlier posts from this thread but I believe it was Peter Van Oene (and maybe someone else) who explained the technical differences between DV and LS operations. If you don't have that message any longer you can go to the GroupStudy website and look at it on the web board. I thought that post explained the differences between LS and DV very well. John Scott Terminiello 3/7/03 1:13:02 PM It was my understanding that EIGRP only notifies its neighbors of topology changes the same way OSPF works. This is in contrast to RIP which sends out an update at specified intervals (30 secs for RIPv1) regardless of whether a topology change or not. Scott - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:02 PM Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way does it behave like a link state protocol. It establishes neighbor relationships and it uses hellos, as do OSPF and IS-IS, but those have nothing whatsoever to do with whether protocol is DV or LS. Some people get hung up on the complex metric, but who says DV protocols have to use only hop count? The actual operation of EIGRP is DV. There are no LS components to EIGRP. Regards, John Scott Terminiello 3/7/03 8:28:00 AM EIGRP is a hybrid. It can be said that it is a distance vector routing protocol that acts like a link state routing protocol. Scott - Original Message - From: Johan Bornman To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64793t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
It was my understanding that EIGRP only notifies its neighbors of topology changes the same way OSPF works. This is in contrast to RIP which sends out an update at specified intervals (30 secs for RIPv1) regardless of whether a topology change or not. Scott - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:02 PM Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way does it behave like a link state protocol. It establishes neighbor relationships and it uses hellos, as do OSPF and IS-IS, but those have nothing whatsoever to do with whether protocol is DV or LS. Some people get hung up on the complex metric, but who says DV protocols have to use only hop count? The actual operation of EIGRP is DV. There are no LS components to EIGRP. Regards, John Scott Terminiello 3/7/03 8:28:00 AM EIGRP is a hybrid. It can be said that it is a distance vector routing protocol that acts like a link state routing protocol. Scott - Original Message - From: Johan Bornman To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64761t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]
Scott Terminiello wrote: It was my understanding that EIGRP only notifies its neighbors of topology changes the same way OSPF works. This is in contrast to RIP which sends out an update at specified intervals (30 secs for RIPv1) regardless of whether a topology change or not. That doesn't make EIGRP a link-state protocol though. Cats and dogs have a lot of the same features. A cat is not a dog, though. Cats purr. Dogs slobber. End of story. (Cats are superior.) Seriously, a link-state routing protocol creates a mathematical graph that depicts the internetwork. Then it runs a shortest path algorithm to determine the shortest path to all points in the graph when the nodes and links in the graph are known Look up shortest path algorithm in Google. There's some great stuff out there, including animated demonstrations. A shortest path algorithm is used for many applications, especially training computer scientists. It turns out that one can find the shortest path from a given source to all points in a graph in the same time that one can find the shortest path to a single destination, hence this problem is sometimes called the single-source shortest path problem. Dijstra's algorithm, used in most link-state routing protocols, solve the single-source shortest path problem. A distance-vector routing protocol, such as EIGRP, doesn't use a shortest-path algorithm but instead creates a consolidated list of all reachable destinations. (Notice that the data structure is a list, not a graph.) If the list contains multiple entries for a destination (because there are multiple ways to reach the destination), the entries are sorted by metric and the one with the lowest metric is selected. EIGRP does a few other things that most DV protocols don't do. It keeps track of feasible successors, for example. So, it needs more than just a list data structure, but it doesn't have a graph of the internetwork, and it doesn't run the shortest path algorithm. And see Peter's message for the definitive answer! (Well, not the one about ARP switching. :-) Priscilla Scott - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:02 PM Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] This really isn't the case. EIGRP is purely distance vector. In no way does it behave like a link state protocol. It establishes neighbor relationships and it uses hellos, as do OSPF and IS-IS, but those have nothing whatsoever to do with whether protocol is DV or LS. Some people get hung up on the complex metric, but who says DV protocols have to use only hop count? The actual operation of EIGRP is DV. There are no LS components to EIGRP. Regards, John Scott Terminiello 3/7/03 8:28:00 AM EIGRP is a hybrid. It can be said that it is a distance vector routing protocol that acts like a link state routing protocol. Scott - Original Message - From: Johan Bornman To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64795t=64707 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written Exam Prep [7:64565]
Bruce Caslow's Cisco certification Book that covers Switching and routing..I used it to pass my written. You'll also need some other info for the new items on the test like mpls, qos and multicast. Larry Letterman Network Engineer Cisco Systems - Original Message - From: Ron To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: CCIE Written Exam Prep [7:64565] I have passed my CCNP mostly through self-study. Can anyone who has passed the CCIE written exam suggest reading materials that would help me to prepare for the exam besides the standard Cisco Cert Prep books? I would also like some advice on CCIE practice tests. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64574t=64565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written Exam Prep [7:64565]
I have passed my CCNP mostly through self-study. Can anyone who has passed the CCIE written exam suggest reading materials that would help me to prepare for the exam besides the standard Cisco Cert Prep books? I would also like some advice on CCIE practice tests. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64565t=64565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am preparing for the CCIE written exam too. I think that the is great for you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64566t=64565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Good advice at: http://home.attbi.com/~blaga/Written.htm From: Ron To: Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: CCIE Written Exam Prep [7:64565] I have passed my CCNP mostly through self-study. Can anyone who has passed the CCIE written exam suggest reading materials that would help me to prepare for the exam besides the standard Cisco Cert Prep books? I would also like some advice on CCIE practice tests. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64572t=64565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
QOS BOOK FOR CCIE WRITTEN EXAM [7:64052]
_c/qcfbook.pdf People who are studying for ccie written will find alot of usefull info on QOS. Can anyone share a solid document on MPLS with me? Regards! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64052t=64052 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QOS BOOK FOR CCIE WRITTEN EXAM [7:64052]
sorry guys. I did paste a link on my post but no idea what happened. I hope it works this time. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos _c/qcfbook.pdf Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64053t=64052 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written Training [7:64107]
Does anybody know of a good training program for the CCIE written especially in the Denver Colorado area? All I'm finding is Lab prep stuff. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64107t=64107 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written Training [7:64107]
Ben, I am not aware of any formalized training programs in the Denver area for the written exam. However, I am organizing a study group with another gentleman here in the Denver area specifically to tackle the CCIE written. You are more than welcome to contact me offline if you are interested in joining us. Joe Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64115t=64107 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494]
I used Caslow, found it really good, also used the new Cisco Press book (both the RS,l and the lab). Even if you are studying for your written exam, it sometimes really helps to go through what you are learning in a lab environment The Long and Winding Road wrote: a couple of comments in-line, like the skates: Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:21 PM + 2/22/03, Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: You're talking about the old exam. While the Caslow book probably still covers some of the material on the new exam, the new exam is much more in depth on goofy stuff. Follow the blueprint for the best results. Shawn K. Different books have different objectives. Caslow, I believe, remains the best book giving a general strategy for analyzing lab scenarios and planning the lab effort, although it may be dated on some of the specific technologies. Caslow most definitely is a CCIE Lab strategy guide, and yes some specifics are maybe a bit dated. For example, Caslow suggests confgiuring your Lab in latyers, starting by doing the physical cabling, then adding the L2 protocols all the way around, prior to any L3 addressing. Obviously, since the candidate does no cabling in the one day scenario ( and eventually in the all remore rack scenario that no doubt is in the pipeline ) this strategy is obsolete. Even the 2nd edition was released two years ago, so yeah, it still talks about IPX, but many of the other topics covered are well worth considering. And yeah, Caslow doesn't cover certain topics which are seeing more point value in the recent spate of CCIE Labs. Given the time lag of books -- often a year or more between first contract and commercial availability -- you simply may not be able to depend on a single review book for the written. There certainly can be valid review books for specific new technologies, but they need to be supplemented by reading in current online sources ranging from CCO, to RFCs and I-D's, to reliable websites. There certainly are both free and commercial sources of scenarios that explore the new technologies, but those won't teach the underlying principles[1] -- which is more the focus of the CCIE Written. Shawn gives a good starting point of printing the blueprints and CCO material, although that isn't always enough. Don't rule out looking at the documentation of similar features from other vendors. Long before I worked for Nortel (and I don't any longer), I'd occasionally be baffled by something in the Cisco documentation. Sometimes, I'd find the downloadable Nortel documentation for the equivalent feature easier to read. Match template , for example, is much more intuitive to me than access-list, especially considering access control list already has well-defined meaning in security, a meaning somewhat different than Cisco's. I'm fascinated by the access-list, which is Cisco's structure for initiating a lot of different things, including route-maps, security structures, filtering, and the like. It's as if the access-list is central to understanding Cisco in much the same way that certain kinds of structures are central to C programming. I'm comfortable with RFCs and reading IETF mailing lists, but I recognize not everyone else is. Sort of an aside on that--with one more conference call, I _think_ our BMWG draft on BGP convergence terminology will be ready to go to RFC. Ironically, the most controversial parts are in definitions that we needed to clean up ambiguities in the current BGP standard, RFC 1771. The current draft of the new BGP standard, which you can find by going to www.ietf.org and navigating to working groups and then IDR, is MUCH closer to real-world practice than is 1771. For example, contrary to general belief, AS path length as a BGP route selection criterion is not in 1771, but is in the new draft. Howard [1] I recommend the term principles rather than theory for most discussions in certification. In my mind, theory is much more what protocol designers consider in creating protocol specifications, while principles detail the implementation requirements and options -- and how they work _within_ the protocol specifications. -Original Message- From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I studied the caslow book and did the paper by Dennis L. on the sna token ring stuff. The Boson test by the same Dennis was the icing on the cake for me...you will probably want to know MPLS/Multicast and QOS also now - Original Message - From: Kaminski, Shawn G To: Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: RE: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I don't
RE: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494]
At 10:21 PM + 2/22/03, Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: You're talking about the old exam. While the Caslow book probably still covers some of the material on the new exam, the new exam is much more in depth on goofy stuff. Follow the blueprint for the best results. Shawn K. Different books have different objectives. Caslow, I believe, remains the best book giving a general strategy for analyzing lab scenarios and planning the lab effort, although it may be dated on some of the specific technologies. Given the time lag of books -- often a year or more between first contract and commercial availability -- you simply may not be able to depend on a single review book for the written. There certainly can be valid review books for specific new technologies, but they need to be supplemented by reading in current online sources ranging from CCO, to RFCs and I-D's, to reliable websites. There certainly are both free and commercial sources of scenarios that explore the new technologies, but those won't teach the underlying principles[1] -- which is more the focus of the CCIE Written. Shawn gives a good starting point of printing the blueprints and CCO material, although that isn't always enough. Don't rule out looking at the documentation of similar features from other vendors. Long before I worked for Nortel (and I don't any longer), I'd occasionally be baffled by something in the Cisco documentation. Sometimes, I'd find the downloadable Nortel documentation for the equivalent feature easier to read. Match template , for example, is much more intuitive to me than access-list, especially considering access control list already has well-defined meaning in security, a meaning somewhat different than Cisco's. I'm comfortable with RFCs and reading IETF mailing lists, but I recognize not everyone else is. Sort of an aside on that--with one more conference call, I _think_ our BMWG draft on BGP convergence terminology will be ready to go to RFC. Ironically, the most controversial parts are in definitions that we needed to clean up ambiguities in the current BGP standard, RFC 1771. The current draft of the new BGP standard, which you can find by going to www.ietf.org and navigating to working groups and then IDR, is MUCH closer to real-world practice than is 1771. For example, contrary to general belief, AS path length as a BGP route selection criterion is not in 1771, but is in the new draft. Howard [1] I recommend the term principles rather than theory for most discussions in certification. In my mind, theory is much more what protocol designers consider in creating protocol specifications, while principles detail the implementation requirements and options -- and how they work _within_ the protocol specifications. -Original Message- From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I studied the caslow book and did the paper by Dennis L. on the sna token ring stuff. The Boson test by the same Dennis was the icing on the cake for me...you will probably want to know MPLS/Multicast and QOS also now - Original Message - From: Kaminski, Shawn G To: Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: RE: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I don't know of any training classes for the CCIE Written, probably because the CCIE Written covers a lot of oddball technologies, etc. If you did find a class, all they would probably do is go over the topics on the CCIE Written blueprint. Why bother paying for a class when you can do that for free?!! Just go the Cisco site, print out the blueprint, and start searching CCO on each topic. It's probably the best way to study for the CCIE Written. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Arni V. Skarphedinsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] Can any one recomed a good traning class for the CCIE Written Exam, most of the CCIE traning programs I see offerd are traning for the lab, after you have taken the written. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63583t=63494 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494]
Since you mentioned the blueprint, I did look at it recently..like a day ago. Token ring is still on it. Also added to it is MPLS, QOS, Voice and Mcast... Larry Letterman Network Engineer Cisco Systems - Original Message - From: Kaminski, Shawn G To: Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: RE: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] You're talking about the old exam. While the Caslow book probably still covers some of the material on the new exam, the new exam is much more in depth on goofy stuff. Follow the blueprint for the best results. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I studied the caslow book and did the paper by Dennis L. on the sna token ring stuff. The Boson test by the same Dennis was the icing on the cake for me...you will probably want to know MPLS/Multicast and QOS also now Larry Letterman Network Engineer Cisco Systems - Original Message - From: Kaminski, Shawn G To: Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: RE: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I don't know of any training classes for the CCIE Written, probably because the CCIE Written covers a lot of oddball technologies, etc. If you did find a class, all they would probably do is go over the topics on the CCIE Written blueprint. Why bother paying for a class when you can do that for free?!! Just go the Cisco site, print out the blueprint, and start searching CCO on each topic. It's probably the best way to study for the CCIE Written. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Arni V. Skarphedinsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] Can any one recomed a good traning class for the CCIE Written Exam, most of the CCIE traning programs I see offerd are traning for the lab, after you have taken the written. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63577t=63494 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494]
a couple of comments in-line, like the skates: Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:21 PM + 2/22/03, Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: You're talking about the old exam. While the Caslow book probably still covers some of the material on the new exam, the new exam is much more in depth on goofy stuff. Follow the blueprint for the best results. Shawn K. Different books have different objectives. Caslow, I believe, remains the best book giving a general strategy for analyzing lab scenarios and planning the lab effort, although it may be dated on some of the specific technologies. Caslow most definitely is a CCIE Lab strategy guide, and yes some specifics are maybe a bit dated. For example, Caslow suggests confgiuring your Lab in latyers, starting by doing the physical cabling, then adding the L2 protocols all the way around, prior to any L3 addressing. Obviously, since the candidate does no cabling in the one day scenario ( and eventually in the all remore rack scenario that no doubt is in the pipeline ) this strategy is obsolete. Even the 2nd edition was released two years ago, so yeah, it still talks about IPX, but many of the other topics covered are well worth considering. And yeah, Caslow doesn't cover certain topics which are seeing more point value in the recent spate of CCIE Labs. Given the time lag of books -- often a year or more between first contract and commercial availability -- you simply may not be able to depend on a single review book for the written. There certainly can be valid review books for specific new technologies, but they need to be supplemented by reading in current online sources ranging from CCO, to RFCs and I-D's, to reliable websites. There certainly are both free and commercial sources of scenarios that explore the new technologies, but those won't teach the underlying principles[1] -- which is more the focus of the CCIE Written. Shawn gives a good starting point of printing the blueprints and CCO material, although that isn't always enough. Don't rule out looking at the documentation of similar features from other vendors. Long before I worked for Nortel (and I don't any longer), I'd occasionally be baffled by something in the Cisco documentation. Sometimes, I'd find the downloadable Nortel documentation for the equivalent feature easier to read. Match template , for example, is much more intuitive to me than access-list, especially considering access control list already has well-defined meaning in security, a meaning somewhat different than Cisco's. I'm fascinated by the access-list, which is Cisco's structure for initiating a lot of different things, including route-maps, security structures, filtering, and the like. It's as if the access-list is central to understanding Cisco in much the same way that certain kinds of structures are central to C programming. I'm comfortable with RFCs and reading IETF mailing lists, but I recognize not everyone else is. Sort of an aside on that--with one more conference call, I _think_ our BMWG draft on BGP convergence terminology will be ready to go to RFC. Ironically, the most controversial parts are in definitions that we needed to clean up ambiguities in the current BGP standard, RFC 1771. The current draft of the new BGP standard, which you can find by going to www.ietf.org and navigating to working groups and then IDR, is MUCH closer to real-world practice than is 1771. For example, contrary to general belief, AS path length as a BGP route selection criterion is not in 1771, but is in the new draft. Howard [1] I recommend the term principles rather than theory for most discussions in certification. In my mind, theory is much more what protocol designers consider in creating protocol specifications, while principles detail the implementation requirements and options -- and how they work _within_ the protocol specifications. -Original Message- From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I studied the caslow book and did the paper by Dennis L. on the sna token ring stuff. The Boson test by the same Dennis was the icing on the cake for me...you will probably want to know MPLS/Multicast and QOS also now - Original Message - From: Kaminski, Shawn G To: Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: RE: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I don't know of any training classes for the CCIE Written, probably because the CCIE Written covers a lot of oddball technologies, etc. If you did find a class, all they would probably do is go over the topics on the CCIE Written blueprint. Why bother paying for a class when you can do that for free?!! Just go the Cisco site, print out the blueprint, and start searching CCO on each topic. It's probably
RE: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494]
You're talking about the old exam. While the Caslow book probably still covers some of the material on the new exam, the new exam is much more in depth on goofy stuff. Follow the blueprint for the best results. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I studied the caslow book and did the paper by Dennis L. on the sna token ring stuff. The Boson test by the same Dennis was the icing on the cake for me...you will probably want to know MPLS/Multicast and QOS also now Larry Letterman Network Engineer Cisco Systems - Original Message - From: Kaminski, Shawn G To: Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: RE: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I don't know of any training classes for the CCIE Written, probably because the CCIE Written covers a lot of oddball technologies, etc. If you did find a class, all they would probably do is go over the topics on the CCIE Written blueprint. Why bother paying for a class when you can do that for free?!! Just go the Cisco site, print out the blueprint, and start searching CCO on each topic. It's probably the best way to study for the CCIE Written. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Arni V. Skarphedinsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] Can any one recomed a good traning class for the CCIE Written Exam, most of the CCIE traning programs I see offerd are traning for the lab, after you have taken the written. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63533t=63494 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written Traning [7:63494]
Can any one recomed a good traning class for the CCIE Written Exam, most of the CCIE traning programs I see offerd are traning for the lab, after you have taken the written. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63494t=63494 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494]
I don't know of any training classes for the CCIE Written, probably because the CCIE Written covers a lot of oddball technologies, etc. If you did find a class, all they would probably do is go over the topics on the CCIE Written blueprint. Why bother paying for a class when you can do that for free?!! Just go the Cisco site, print out the blueprint, and start searching CCO on each topic. It's probably the best way to study for the CCIE Written. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Arni V. Skarphedinsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] Can any one recomed a good traning class for the CCIE Written Exam, most of the CCIE traning programs I see offerd are traning for the lab, after you have taken the written. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63516t=63494 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494]
I studied the caslow book and did the paper by Dennis L. on the sna token ring stuff. The Boson test by the same Dennis was the icing on the cake for me...you will probably want to know MPLS/Multicast and QOS also now Larry Letterman Network Engineer Cisco Systems - Original Message - From: Kaminski, Shawn G To: Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: RE: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] I don't know of any training classes for the CCIE Written, probably because the CCIE Written covers a lot of oddball technologies, etc. If you did find a class, all they would probably do is go over the topics on the CCIE Written blueprint. Why bother paying for a class when you can do that for free?!! Just go the Cisco site, print out the blueprint, and start searching CCO on each topic. It's probably the best way to study for the CCIE Written. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Arni V. Skarphedinsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written Traning [7:63494] Can any one recomed a good traning class for the CCIE Written Exam, most of the CCIE traning programs I see offerd are traning for the lab, after you have taken the written. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63521t=63494 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question about CCIE written [7:63396]
Just an FYI on waiting to take the lab. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/le11/learning_ccie_lab_exam_policies .html Written Exam Expiry Candidates must attempt the CCIE Lab exam within 18 months of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. After the first lab attempt, candidates must attempt the CCIE lab at least once every 12 months from the last lab attempt in order for their qualification exam to remain valid. However, if a candidate has not passed the CCIE Lab exam within three years of passing the qualification exam, he or she must retake the CCIE qualification exam before the candidate will be allowed to schedule the lab exam again. -Original Message- From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question about CCIE written [7:63396] Hi guys, This may seem a dumb q, but I'll ask it anyway. How hard is the CCIE written. How much value do you think it adds (if you don't intend to do the lab for a some time). Symon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63431t=63396 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE written exercise question-Voice Quality [7:63349]
All, I was searching through internet (include Ciso website)and I can't really find a good source in Padding-Gain terminology for managing voice call quality. Can anyone recommend a good website? I have a question regarding Voice quality... Question: Site B and site C are connected to Site A. Site A complains B and C is too loud. Where as, site C compains the received signal is too low/soft. Option: (Pick 2) a) padding input A, output B, b) gain on C c) padding output at A Thanks, Lee _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63349t=63349 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question about CCIE written [7:63396]
Hi guys, This may seem a dumb q, but I'll ask it anyway. How hard is the CCIE written. How much value do you think it adds (if you don't intend to do the lab for a some time). Symon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63396t=63396 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE written exercise question [7:63247]
All, I'm preparing CCIE written exam and encounter some tricky questions in exercise. Would like to ask for help for those who can solve it: 1) Which one is NOT Well-known attribute for BGP ? - local preference - origin - weight - community - cluster-id You can only choose one out of 5. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63247t=63247 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written exercise question [7:63247]
weight is not an attribute carried in BGP. It's a cisco specific mechanism that is local to a router, and when configured, may impact the BGP path selection on that router. lee wooi keat wrote: All, I'm preparing CCIE written exam and encounter some tricky questions in exercise. Would like to ask for help for those who can solve it: 1) Which one is NOT Well-known attribute for BGP ? - local preference - origin - weight - community - cluster-id You can only choose one out of 5. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63256t=63247 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
