Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?
Hey Al, It looks to me like you were studying from an older 407 exam prep book. Cisco added quite a few WAN and Switch questions to the 407 test pool late last year. Check the publisher's web site for errata and updates. I got a large Chapter 11 update from the Sybex site for my 407 Study book that had a great deal of WAN stuff in it that the original book did not cover. The errata sheet also had fixes for the review questions that didn't seem quite right. Since it's now after July 31, 2000, you'll have to take the 507 CCNA 2.0 test. You did good to buy the two study books. I would also invest in a Boson practice test. HTH, Vern Stitt AE, ASE, CCA, CCNA, MCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello... Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't even close.. I scored 617. 71% OSI 14 WAN 42 IOS 60 Net Protocols 33 Routing 20 Security 57 LAN Switch 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the score?) Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one and a half weeks...thanks a lot Al ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Nooo! I failed! what now?
You're probably both right, but it's also possible to get a drivers license without any driving practise. However, I wouldn't be in the same car with anyone that did. My $0.02 Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ricardo Ferreira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:10 PM To: James Dezern; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Nooo! I failed! what now? Importance: High James You're right. The test you really need hands-on is CIT and FR/S. And much more hands-on ( I mean tons of time playing with routers/switches ) is CCIE -Original Message- From: James Dezern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 2:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nooo! I failed! what now? I have to disagree with you here Ole. I took my CCNA without hardly ever touching a router. After passing my CCNA I realized that you really didn't need any hands on router experience. The test can be passed easily without any hands on experience. I will say though that the more hands on you have the easier it will be. The CCNA test is designed more to validate that you know all the concepts well. I passed my test by just reading Cisco Press books. I didn't do great, but a pass is a pass. The biggest thing to know on the CCNA exam is the OSI, you need to understand that fully. Looking at the scores below shows me that more studying, reading and understanding needs to be concentrated. WAN, Security and routing don't really have much to do with hands on. I don't know, I just disagree that you need a lot of hands on to pass a CCNA. It wasn't designed for that purpose. my .02 Jamie - Original Message - From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: RE: Nooo! I failed! what now? > You did not know enough about the material to pass the test. > > I do not know what you have used to study, but here is what I would do: > > 1) Read the material until you can answer the study questions 100% correct. > 2) Get another study guide (two or more are always better than only one). > 3) Practise the examples/exercises on a Cisco Router. > 4) Search for information about topics you do not fully understand. > 5) Ask this group about topics you do not fully understand. > 6) Buy a BOSON test exam before you take the real one. > > If you are rescheduled, I believe it's for the new CCNA 2.0 (640-507) since > the old one had it's last day yesterday. If that's the case, you should make > sure to get a study guide for that one. > > I can recommend Todd Lammle's new CCNA 2.0 Study Guide together with the > official ICND book from CiscoPress. > > A LOT OF HANDS ON are very important. > > Good luck, > > Ole > > > Ole Drews Jensen > Systems Network Manager > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~~~~~~~~ > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Nooo! I failed! what now? > > > Hello... > > Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't > even close.. > I scored 617. > 71% OSI > 14 WAN > 42 IOS > 60 Net Protocols > 33 Routing > 20 Security > 57 LAN Switch > 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) > 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the > score?) > > Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one > and a half weeks...thanks a lot > Al > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.grou
RE: Nooo! I failed! what now?
James You're right. The test you really need hands-on is CIT and FR/S. And much more hands-on ( I mean tons of time playing with routers/switches ) is CCIE -Original Message- From: James Dezern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 2:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nooo! I failed! what now? I have to disagree with you here Ole. I took my CCNA without hardly ever touching a router. After passing my CCNA I realized that you really didn't need any hands on router experience. The test can be passed easily without any hands on experience. I will say though that the more hands on you have the easier it will be. The CCNA test is designed more to validate that you know all the concepts well. I passed my test by just reading Cisco Press books. I didn't do great, but a pass is a pass. The biggest thing to know on the CCNA exam is the OSI, you need to understand that fully. Looking at the scores below shows me that more studying, reading and understanding needs to be concentrated. WAN, Security and routing don't really have much to do with hands on. I don't know, I just disagree that you need a lot of hands on to pass a CCNA. It wasn't designed for that purpose. my .02 Jamie - Original Message - From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: RE: Nooo! I failed! what now? > You did not know enough about the material to pass the test. > > I do not know what you have used to study, but here is what I would do: > > 1) Read the material until you can answer the study questions 100% correct. > 2) Get another study guide (two or more are always better than only one). > 3) Practise the examples/exercises on a Cisco Router. > 4) Search for information about topics you do not fully understand. > 5) Ask this group about topics you do not fully understand. > 6) Buy a BOSON test exam before you take the real one. > > If you are rescheduled, I believe it's for the new CCNA 2.0 (640-507) since > the old one had it's last day yesterday. If that's the case, you should make > sure to get a study guide for that one. > > I can recommend Todd Lammle's new CCNA 2.0 Study Guide together with the > official ICND book from CiscoPress. > > A LOT OF HANDS ON are very important. > > Good luck, > > Ole > > > Ole Drews Jensen > Systems Network Manager > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Nooo! I failed! what now? > > > Hello... > > Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't > even close.. > I scored 617. > 71% OSI > 14 WAN > 42 IOS > 60 Net Protocols > 33 Routing > 20 Security > 57 LAN Switch > 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) > 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the > score?) > > Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one > and a half weeks...thanks a lot > Al > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?
I have to disagree with you here Ole. I took my CCNA without hardly ever touching a router. After passing my CCNA I realized that you really didn't need any hands on router experience. The test can be passed easily without any hands on experience. I will say though that the more hands on you have the easier it will be. The CCNA test is designed more to validate that you know all the concepts well. I passed my test by just reading Cisco Press books. I didn't do great, but a pass is a pass. The biggest thing to know on the CCNA exam is the OSI, you need to understand that fully. Looking at the scores below shows me that more studying, reading and understanding needs to be concentrated. WAN, Security and routing don't really have much to do with hands on. I don't know, I just disagree that you need a lot of hands on to pass a CCNA. It wasn't designed for that purpose. my .02 Jamie - Original Message - From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: RE: Nooo! I failed! what now? > You did not know enough about the material to pass the test. > > I do not know what you have used to study, but here is what I would do: > > 1) Read the material until you can answer the study questions 100% correct. > 2) Get another study guide (two or more are always better than only one). > 3) Practise the examples/exercises on a Cisco Router. > 4) Search for information about topics you do not fully understand. > 5) Ask this group about topics you do not fully understand. > 6) Buy a BOSON test exam before you take the real one. > > If you are rescheduled, I believe it's for the new CCNA 2.0 (640-507) since > the old one had it's last day yesterday. If that's the case, you should make > sure to get a study guide for that one. > > I can recommend Todd Lammle's new CCNA 2.0 Study Guide together with the > official ICND book from CiscoPress. > > A LOT OF HANDS ON are very important. > > Good luck, > > Ole > > > Ole Drews Jensen > Systems Network Manager > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Nooo! I failed! what now? > > > Hello... > > Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't > even close.. > I scored 617. > 71% OSI > 14 WAN > 42 IOS > 60 Net Protocols > 33 Routing > 20 Security > 57 LAN Switch > 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) > 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the > score?) > > Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one > and a half weeks...thanks a lot > Al > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Nooo! I failed! what now?
I rarely post an agreement, but this is so complete of a recommendation, I had to give it kudos. Plus it is what I do. :-) Jim Croyle -Original Message- From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 12:37 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Nooo! I failed! what now? You did not know enough about the material to pass the test. I do not know what you have used to study, but here is what I would do: 1) Read the material until you can answer the study questions 100% correct. 2) Get another study guide (two or more are always better than only one). 3) Practise the examples/exercises on a Cisco Router. 4) Search for information about topics you do not fully understand. 5) Ask this group about topics you do not fully understand. 6) Buy a BOSON test exam before you take the real one. If you are rescheduled, I believe it's for the new CCNA 2.0 (640-507) since the old one had it's last day yesterday. If that's the case, you should make sure to get a study guide for that one. I can recommend Todd Lammle's new CCNA 2.0 Study Guide together with the official ICND book from CiscoPress. A LOT OF HANDS ON are very important. Good luck, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nooo! I failed! what now? Hello... Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't even close.. I scored 617. 71% OSI 14 WAN 42 IOS 60 Net Protocols 33 Routing 20 Security 57 LAN Switch 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the score?) Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one and a half weeks...thanks a lot Al ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Nooo! I failed! what now?
You did not know enough about the material to pass the test. I do not know what you have used to study, but here is what I would do: 1) Read the material until you can answer the study questions 100% correct. 2) Get another study guide (two or more are always better than only one). 3) Practise the examples/exercises on a Cisco Router. 4) Search for information about topics you do not fully understand. 5) Ask this group about topics you do not fully understand. 6) Buy a BOSON test exam before you take the real one. If you are rescheduled, I believe it's for the new CCNA 2.0 (640-507) since the old one had it's last day yesterday. If that's the case, you should make sure to get a study guide for that one. I can recommend Todd Lammle's new CCNA 2.0 Study Guide together with the official ICND book from CiscoPress. A LOT OF HANDS ON are very important. Good luck, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nooo! I failed! what now? Hello... Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't even close.. I scored 617. 71% OSI 14 WAN 42 IOS 60 Net Protocols 33 Routing 20 Security 57 LAN Switch 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the score?) Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one and a half weeks...thanks a lot Al ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?
hey no big deal look at it as $100 invested into the future .. No one said the tests will be easy ( sure few have but many know better) What's the big rush if you pass this week next week or in 10 weeks what is the most important fact about passing.. ? Some silly letters after your name or a strong basic foundation to build more knowledge on. Me thinks the latter is more important. Go get yourself a router to play and you will pass the ios portion and learn some troubleshooting . The more I play with this stuff the more FOR ME I realize that there is NO book in the world going to teach me all of this only just supplement knowledge at best. AN important factor maybe for you to understand why you did not pass . Maybe look at alternate learning methods , maybe you may have the same problem as me read but can't remember so I do it then I remember. Hmm let me re-phrase that I do remember by reading but I remember more by doing .. I have an app lying around somewhere that helps you define which part of your brain you use during the learning process. I will dig it out and throw it on my web site for you. Don;t let this be a problem it's just a fumble in the game the key is to learn from the mistake and go forward . Thats why we have our eyes in the front of our head. A mistake only retains it's status by repetition. Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?
.. and I just realized - you really haven't re-scheduled 407 in a week and a half because today is the last day for the test. You may be booked (probably) for the 507 - CCNA 2.0 - which by all accounts is much different. You may want to think twice and find out what's different before taking your second try at it. Is there a reason to rush it now that you have to take the version 2.0 exam?? Kevin Wigle CCDP/CCNP - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, 31 July, 2000 18:17 Subject: Nooo! I failed! what now? > Hello... > > Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't > even close.. > I scored 617. > 71% OSI > 14 WAN > 42 IOS > 60 Net Protocols > 33 Routing > 20 Security > 57 LAN Switch > 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) > 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the > score?) > > Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one > and a half weeks...thanks a lot > Al > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?
I missed it also, and that puts us both in the same boat. The 407 was CCNA 1 and now we have to study for the 507 or CCNA 2. Not exactly sure what the differences are but from what I understand it's more into VLANs. For router practice go to http://www.r1r2.com Currently, the router labs are free. The username "freelab" and password "frlb" I also have some great study links on the Ciscobot http://www.ciscobot.com Subnet training etc. I think it may be best to put it out a little longer. You should be able to keep moving it back. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello... > > Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't > even close.. > I scored 617. > 71% OSI > 14 WAN > 42 IOS > 60 Net Protocols > 33 Routing > 20 Security > 57 LAN Switch > 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) > 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the > score?) > > Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one > and a half weeks...thanks a lot > Al -- Natasha Flazynski http://www.ciscobot.com My Cisco information site. http://www.botbuilders.com Artificial Intelligence and Linux development A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?
Hi I'm back...I just came back from the bookstore with Odoms 507 study guide and Lammles 507 study guide...I did kind of feel that I did not really know the information in "in-depth" enough...which is why I only scored mediocre at best. [EMAIL PROTECTED] and kevin..thanks for the info and encouragement... I will reread these books as many times as I can employing all the methods you described...I will be in total isolation for the next couple weeks!! Again, thanks Al ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?
Nicely done vlan!! Very, very motivational (what do you do for a living? hehehe) At 04:26 PM 7/31/00 -0700, you wrote: >Al, > >You are now in a very powerful position, you HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE TEST! >This is practically legalized cheating! I and many others have taken >tests we knew we couldn't pass because we wanted a "sneak peak". > >Here's a tip: don't memorize, know it like you invented it. In your >books, read each paragraph and write the important concepts in the >margin. When you are alone, stand up and pretend you are teaching a >class, speak out loud the various concepts from start to finish. You >should be able to address a group of people and lecture at length without >any notes. > >You are smart enough, you just are not studying properly, from now on you >must dominate! This test is nothing, it is a speed bump, you can get past >it. Dedicate your life to it. You must obsess about internetworking. >Don't just study what you think is required for the test...Take it to the >limits. Be a big, ripping pitbull. > >Babe Ruth is known as one of the best home run hitters in history. Few >people know that he also struck out a lot. Failure comes with the >terrirory, deal with it. It's time to suck it up and get medieval with >those books. > >Strive not just to pass the test, strive to master the material well >enough that you could teach the class. > >Other people do it, you will too. > >You're the man! > > > > >>Hello... >> >>Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't >>even close.. >>I scored 617. >>71% OSI >>14 WAN >>42 IOS >>60 Net Protocols >>33 Routing >>20 Security >>57 LAN Switch >>0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) >>0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the >>score?) >> >>Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one >>and a half weeks...thanks a lot >>Al > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?
Not getting "personal" here but you do have some pretty low scores in there. Only you know how much self study you put in, at this point I would only ask - how did you verify that what you studied matched the requirements? There could be discussions galore on "practice" exams but I think they're a great tool to show you where you're weak. However, you've seen the exam once and your score indicates where you're weak. A week and a half to go might not be enough - but then you're trying to beat the 31 July deadline aren't you :-) I would get at least one exam from Boson. For $39, it's cheap. Kevin Wigle CCDP/CCNP. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, 31 July, 2000 18:17 Subject: Nooo! I failed! what now? > Hello... > > Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't > even close.. > I scored 617. > 71% OSI > 14 WAN > 42 IOS > 60 Net Protocols > 33 Routing > 20 Security > 57 LAN Switch > 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) > 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the > score?) > > Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one > and a half weeks...thanks a lot > Al > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?
Al, You are now in a very powerful position, you HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE TEST! This is practically legalized cheating! I and many others have taken tests we knew we couldn't pass because we wanted a "sneak peak". Here's a tip: don't memorize, know it like you invented it. In your books, read each paragraph and write the important concepts in the margin. When you are alone, stand up and pretend you are teaching a class, speak out loud the various concepts from start to finish. You should be able to address a group of people and lecture at length without any notes. You are smart enough, you just are not studying properly, from now on you must dominate! This test is nothing, it is a speed bump, you can get past it. Dedicate your life to it. You must obsess about internetworking. Don't just study what you think is required for the test...Take it to the limits. Be a big, ripping pitbull. Babe Ruth is known as one of the best home run hitters in history. Few people know that he also struck out a lot. Failure comes with the terrirory, deal with it. It's time to suck it up and get medieval with those books. Strive not just to pass the test, strive to master the material well enough that you could teach the class. Other people do it, you will too. You're the man! >Hello... > >Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't >even close.. >I scored 617. >71% OSI >14 WAN >42 IOS >60 Net Protocols >33 Routing >20 Security >57 LAN Switch >0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) >0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the >score?) > >Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one >and a half weeks...thanks a lot >Al Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nooo! I failed! what now?
Unfortunately, you don't seem to be strong in any one area. I'd suggest rescheduling it approx 4 weeks away and hit it all over again. Roman At 06:17 PM 7/31/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hello... > >Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't >even close.. >I scored 617. >71% OSI >14 WAN >42 IOS >60 Net Protocols >33 Routing >20 Security >57 LAN Switch >0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) >0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the >score?) > >Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one >and a half weeks...thanks a lot >Al > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Nooo! I failed! what now?
Study: OSI, WAN, IOS, NET Protocols, Routing, Security and LAN Switch a bit closer and harder. Perhaps you should invest some money in an ICND course. That course and the reading materials most certainly helped me. Just Try Harder mjs > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 6:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Nooo! I failed! what now? > > > Hello... > > Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the > 407...wasn't > even close.. > I scored 617. > 71% OSI > 14 WAN > 42 IOS > 60 Net Protocols > 33 Routing > 20 Security > 57 LAN Switch > 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) > 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the > score?) > > Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am > rescheduled in one > and a half weeks...thanks a lot > Al > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nooo! I failed! what now?
Hello... Despite many hours of self study and memorization I failed the 407...wasn't even close.. I scored 617. 71% OSI 14 WAN 42 IOS 60 Net Protocols 33 Routing 20 Security 57 LAN Switch 0Cisco Career Certs (does this have anything to do with the score?) 0Cisco Career Cers Agreement (does this have anything to do with the score?) Does anyone have any tips for me to pass the test..I am rescheduled in one and a half weeks...thanks a lot Al ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
