RE: Boson Tests didnt help for BCRAN [7:33879]
I'd head back to the Cisco Press book and lay less blame on the software. The Bosons only got me in the mind set to answer the obscure, but the real momentum to pass the exam came from the BCRAN. All the best !!! Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mohannad Khuffash Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boson Tests didnt help for BCRAN [7:33879] Hello, As an exam prep, Transcender is a good one, i had used it with Cisco BCRAN and got 864% . Salam rtc9 wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I recently took the BCRAN Test and used Boson Tests 1 and 2 to help me prepare along with the Cisco Book. I didnt pass, I missed by one question. I was taken aback; the Boson tests didnt really prepare me for the Exam. Does anyone have any suggestions for the BCRAN Exam preparation process. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34038t=33879 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson Tests didnt help for BCRAN [7:33879]
I think, you should read not only one book. I've studied 3 different books (cisco press, sybax and mc graw-hill). I've tested me with the boson tests. After doing this intensive learning, the BCRAN example was no problem (i think, about 950 points). I think, you should understand the stuff, not only trying to pass the exam. The exam should be the smallest of all of your problems ! rtc9 schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I recently took the BCRAN Test and used Boson Tests 1 and 2 to help me prepare along with the Cisco Book. I didnt pass, I missed by one question. I was taken aback; the Boson tests didnt really prepare me for the Exam. Does anyone have any suggestions for the BCRAN Exam preparation process. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34137t=33879 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Tests didnt help for BCRAN [7:33879]
Yes, first of all the Boson Tests are not ment for preparation of the material (in my opinion), but should be used when you know the material to prepare you for the Cisco Way of asking questions, and to give you an idea what you can expect. I always wait until I have read the book(s) and think I am ready, and if I cannot score about 80% on the first time I take the Boson test(s), I know that I need to go back to my book(s). If you keep taking the Boson test(s), you will eventually score a 100%, but that doesn't mean that you know your material - only that you have a good memory. As one of the only exams I have ever taken, I only used one book for the BCRAN exam, and you can read more about that if you follow my Router Chief link below. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: rtc9 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Tests didnt help for BCRAN [7:33879] I recently took the BCRAN Test and used Boson Tests 1 and 2 to help me prepare along with the Cisco Book. I didnt pass, I missed by one question. I was taken aback; the Boson tests didnt really prepare me for the Exam. Does anyone have any suggestions for the BCRAN Exam preparation process. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33888t=33879 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson Tests didnt help for BCRAN [7:33879]
I just read the CCNP exam certification guide for Remote Access. It was pretty straight-forward and that book covered it all. rtc9 wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I recently took the BCRAN Test and used Boson Tests 1 and 2 to help me prepare along with the Cisco Book. I didnt pass, I missed by one question. I was taken aback; the Boson tests didnt really prepare me for the Exam. Does anyone have any suggestions for the BCRAN Exam preparation process. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33891t=33879 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Tests didnt help for BCRAN [7:33879]
I am in the same boat as you were, but with the BCSN test. My suggestion is that where it is fine to use testing software, but make sure you understand why the answer is right, and not just what the answer is. Since I missed the BCSN test by 1 or 2 questions, I may being doing overkill with my studying. But studying too much is not a bad thing, because it will help in the long run. Really knowing the subject will help you if the person writing the test tries to bait you to selecting an answer because you recognized it from some commonly used software. I think they are being more creative with the questions since the price increase of the exams. It is not the cookie cutter questions anymore. I have my CCNA now, and no one has every stopped me from working on a router or firewall asking me for my CCNP papers. I think the program is a great guideline, but having experience is more important. I am making slow progress with the CCNP, because I am studying for other cisco exams as well that don't fit in that category. My suggestion to you for the BCRAN exam is to read a few different books, maybe 3. That's what im doing right now to make sure I know all the material. I might read the concept in 1 book, and think I understand it, then read it in another book, and they emphasize on something else. This is really helping me understand concepts from more then 1 point of view. Even if the book has errors, you will notice that your other books said something different. The networks I work on are not worldwide, so I don't have everyday exposure to BGP, and hooking up to several ISPs etc, so I have to make sure what I am reading is correct. In my humble opinion, some of the questions on boson test are a bit obscure. Just concentrate on what is on the Cisco outline, and try not to deviate too far from that. Being that you almost passed, I think with a bit more reading, or maybe reading a book from another point of view, that you will definitely pass next time. I am sure there were some things you saw on the exam, or the format of the exam, that you can use to study certain areas. -Original Message- From: rtc9 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Tests didnt help for BCRAN [7:33879] I recently took the BCRAN Test and used Boson Tests 1 and 2 to help me prepare along with the Cisco Book. I didnt pass, I missed by one question. I was taken aback; the Boson tests didnt really prepare me for the Exam. Does anyone have any suggestions for the BCRAN Exam preparation process. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33923t=33879 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson Tests didnt help for BCRAN [7:33879]
Hello, As an exam prep, Transcender is a good one, i had used it with Cisco BCRAN and got 864% . Salam rtc9 wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I recently took the BCRAN Test and used Boson Tests 1 and 2 to help me prepare along with the Cisco Book. I didnt pass, I missed by one question. I was taken aback; the Boson tests didnt really prepare me for the Exam. Does anyone have any suggestions for the BCRAN Exam preparation process. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34012t=33879 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Tests border on Unethical [7:26639]
The basic analysis here seems to make sense. But there is an implied assumption that doesn't. There will always be some people that take advantage of a situation, but the majority of people do not. Our society and economy, to say nothing of complex organizations in general, could not possibly function as they do unless that were the case. Boson has always suggested to me that tests should be written based on the stated exam criteria on CCO and the subjects covered in associated cisco curricula. YMMV. Jason - Boson author (bcmsn1, bscn2, bsci, quizware ccie) Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: It's easy to see what's happening here. All of Boson's tests are done by different authors. Each author is going to try like hell to get their questions as close as possible to the questions on the actual exams, if not right from the exams. Boson doesn't care because they state right in their author contract that they are not responsible for exams that contain questions that break the NDA. The author will be held responsible. It's not like Boson's going to double-check every authored exam for NDA violations. Anyway, the closer the author comes to the actual exam questions, the more exams he'll sell when word gets around that, for example, Boson Test #2 is the one you need to get. However, Boson isn't doing anything different than any other company selling certification practice exams. It's a ridiculously huge, cut-throat, and competitive market out there for study materials. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27061t=26639 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Tests border on Unethical [7:26639]
I thought about that after I took the exam, but there was something else I noticed when taking the boson tests. Try taking one of the more popular CCIE prep books, or maybe even the CCIE Professional Development books, and go through a section. (Not a chapter, but one section of a chapter). Then, try to think of 5 questions you could ask someone that would test their comprehension of that section. I'm willing to bet that 4 of those 5 questions you thought of will show up, worded slightly differently, on the boson tests, and 1 or 2 of those 5 questions are in the test bank for the written. Just my .02 -Original Message- From: Gardner, Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Tests border on Unethical [7:26639] I too recently passed my written CCIE. I would go so far to say that the Boson tests push the limits in terms of ethical test preparation. I would say there were approximately five questions on the practice exams that were right out of the Cisco test. Most of these questions were worded almost exactly the same as they were in the CCIE written and the material they touched on was pretty esoteric. Brent Gardner Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26863t=26639 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Tests border on Unethical [7:26639]
It's easy to see what's happening here. All of Boson's tests are done by different authors. Each author is going to try like hell to get their questions as close as possible to the questions on the actual exams, if not right from the exams. Boson doesn't care because they state right in their author contract that they are not responsible for exams that contain questions that break the NDA. The author will be held responsible. It's not like Boson's going to double-check every authored exam for NDA violations. Anyway, the closer the author comes to the actual exam questions, the more exams he'll sell when word gets around that, for example, Boson Test #2 is the one you need to get. However, Boson isn't doing anything different than any other company selling certification practice exams. It's a ridiculously huge, cut-throat, and competitive market out there for study materials. Shawn -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Tests border on Unethical [7:26639] I thought about that after I took the exam, but there was something else I noticed when taking the boson tests. Try taking one of the more popular CCIE prep books, or maybe even the CCIE Professional Development books, and go through a section. (Not a chapter, but one section of a chapter). Then, try to think of 5 questions you could ask someone that would test their comprehension of that section. I'm willing to bet that 4 of those 5 questions you thought of will show up, worded slightly differently, on the boson tests, and 1 or 2 of those 5 questions are in the test bank for the written. Just my .02 -Original Message- From: Gardner, Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Tests border on Unethical [7:26639] I too recently passed my written CCIE. I would go so far to say that the Boson tests push the limits in terms of ethical test preparation. I would say there were approximately five questions on the practice exams that were right out of the Cisco test. Most of these questions were worded almost exactly the same as they were in the CCIE written and the material they touched on was pretty esoteric. Brent Gardner Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26882t=26639 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Tests border on Unethical [7:26639]
Interesting observation. I don't think Cisco would even care if a company was putting out test questions that matched the exam... after all, if less qualified people try and fail at the lab, that's just easy money for them anyway. Either way, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I'm just going to make sure I'm not easy money. Hal -Original Message- From: Kaminski, Shawn G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Tests border on Unethical [7:26639] It's easy to see what's happening here. All of Boson's tests are done by different authors. Each author is going to try like hell to get their questions as close as possible to the questions on the actual exams, if not right from the exams. Boson doesn't care because they state right in their author contract that they are not responsible for exams that contain questions that break the NDA. The author will be held responsible. It's not like Boson's going to double-check every authored exam for NDA violations. Anyway, the closer the author comes to the actual exam questions, the more exams he'll sell when word gets around that, for example, Boson Test #2 is the one you need to get. However, Boson isn't doing anything different than any other company selling certification practice exams. It's a ridiculously huge, cut-throat, and competitive market out there for study materials. Shawn -Original Message- From: Logan, Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Tests border on Unethical [7:26639] I thought about that after I took the exam, but there was something else I noticed when taking the boson tests. Try taking one of the more popular CCIE prep books, or maybe even the CCIE Professional Development books, and go through a section. (Not a chapter, but one section of a chapter). Then, try to think of 5 questions you could ask someone that would test their comprehension of that section. I'm willing to bet that 4 of those 5 questions you thought of will show up, worded slightly differently, on the boson tests, and 1 or 2 of those 5 questions are in the test bank for the written. Just my .02 -Original Message- From: Gardner, Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Tests border on Unethical [7:26639] I too recently passed my written CCIE. I would go so far to say that the Boson tests push the limits in terms of ethical test preparation. I would say there were approximately five questions on the practice exams that were right out of the Cisco test. Most of these questions were worded almost exactly the same as they were in the CCIE written and the material they touched on was pretty esoteric. Brent Gardner Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26888t=26639 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson Tests
It's a little kludgy, but... What I used to do to get a printout of all the Boson questions/answers to take with me on the road was to open a blank Word document, start the Boson test, then highlight the complete answer info (click/drag), right-click, select "Copy" to copy the highlighted text, then ALT-Tab to my Word doc and CTRL-V to paste the text. Kinda awkward, but hey, it worked, it was free and I didn't have to schlep a laptop into the hotel just to review. -Austin (on hiatus from any more studying for awhile) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson tests for CIT
Christian, congratulations on your progress!, I too am at the same point with CIT left to go for CCNP. I am using Boson and am finding them to be quite helpful in preparing me for the exam. They really drive home the basics and pound debugging and other commands as well as troubleshooting methods into your head and for some reason the #2 test is the most challenging (to me). I am also using Ciscopress's Support book with CD and 200 exam questions and it is a must, even as a resource later on. I hope this helps and best of luck!!! "Wilson, Christian" wrote: Does anyone have any experience with the Boson tests for CIT? I have used them in the past and have found that some are better then others. Can anyone tell me which would be worth my while to buy? Any help would be greatly appreciated as this is my last test to complete my CCNP. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson tests for CIT
Quick and dirty review. The tests are not 1 for 1 to the actual exam but, they are about as close as you can get without Boson violating the infamous Cisco Non-Disclosure Agreement. I found the Boson CIT and ACRC tests were actually harder than the Cisco Exam so it was a pleasant surprise when I passed the exams. As a recommendation, I have used Boson tests on every Cisco certification that I have passed. The only negative comment I have is on the CID tests. I haven't had much luck with those but, Boson has revised them so, it seems to be a timing issue. I also had problems with the book that I studied originally from . Now that I have the CID book from Cisco and the revised Boson tests, I should be able to pass the CID exam in no time. Boson's test authors are responsive to correcting mistakes. I usually get a response within 8 hours, unless I send a an email at 8:00PM. Additionally, the authors are always ask about ways to improve their product and listen to suggestions. So, if you need some help and give them some constructive feedback they usually get right on it. The CIT exam is not difficult if you have the right study material and study Vigorously for it. I used the books from Cisco and by the one written by T. Thomas from McGaw Hill, all three Boson Tests and the Cisco website. I'd suggest that if you are doing self-studying that you use both books. It takes a little more time but you'll get two perspectives that will help you with retention and understanding. The CIT exam is not for the faint of heart or for folks with Attention Defect Syndrome. At first I was disappointed that Cisco asked fairly convoluted questions until I realized that Cisco is testing you ability to sort out the real issues in the minutia as well as your technical knowledge. Good luck on the CIT exam. JH A+ N+ CNE, MCSE, CCNP, CCDA, some other crap, and hopefully a CCDP soon ;-) P.S. I am using Boson's CCIE practice tests too. ""Wilson, Christian"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Does anyone have any experience with the Boson tests for CIT? I have used them in the past and have found that some are better then others. Can anyone tell me which would be worth my while to buy? Any help would be greatly appreciated as this is my last test to complete my CCNP. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson Tests
You can print each one as it is viewed but not at once as a big print job... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyway to print all of the test questions that are included with the Boson tests? Tia, Jess _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BOSON Tests
Open up one test at a time. Click on the, order full version button, select manual registraion, accept the terms and conditions,click on next and voila the product id is on the first line and the registration no. is below. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BOSON Tests Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:00:16 EST Does anyone know how to find the product ID and Registration #. I downloaded the CCNA samples and cannot find those numbers to order the 3 CCNA tests from Boson. Any help, Much Appreciated. Jess _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boson tests??
Kyle, Let me know how you do. PEACE Raheem From: "Tom Keough" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Tom Keough" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: boson tests?? Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:25:44 -0500 Kyle, I started preparing for the CCNP routing exam last Spring. I read two ACRC books published by Cisco. Then in the Summer I missed the deadline for taking the version 1 exam. I was again ready to prepare for the version 2 exam in October and I looked at several books. I purchased the Exam Cram Routing book while I was waiting for the Cisco Press publication to hit the streets. Looking back I thought the Exam Cram book was a good exam prep type book until I read the one by Paquet and Teare. The BSCN Cisco publication by Catherine Paquet and Diane Teare came out in early November and it totally eclipsed the ACRC books and the Exam Cram Routing book. Paquet and Teare have done an excellent job in writing a clear, concise Routing course book. The labs are excellent and do-able. This book will be in my reference library as a permanent resident. I am at the end stage in preparing for the Routing exam, I am scheduled to take it this Thursday. I bought the Boson CCNP practice exams and have been taking them for the past two weeks. The exams are a good drill for going back over the material I have read in the text (looking up the details in items I missed). They are also a good way to learn the commands when you must type them in as the answer to the test questions. The exam questions are rather simple and I hear that the real thing has questions that require reasoning. Overall the Boson exams are accurate, I have found a couple BGP questions on topics not covered in the Cisco Press book and a couple actual errors and some that are not scored properly. I will be a better judge of their effectiveness after Thursday morning. HTH, Tom -- Tom Keough MCSE CCNA ATT Global Network Solutions Standard Access Management Managed Router Service Tier 2 Technical Support Tampa, Florida ""Kyle Sie"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... hi everyone I'm looking forward to attain my CCNP. just exactly what are the everso famous Boson Tests?? I'm currently using the Sybex books by Todd Lamel...are they any good? they did a great job in preparing me for my CCNA cert. Just what exactly are them Boson tests? and where can I get some?? much thanks _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boson tests??
www.boson.com - Original Message - From: Kyle Sie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:37 PM Subject: boson tests?? hi everyone I'm looking forward to attain my CCNP. just exactly what are the everso famous Boson Tests?? I'm currently using the Sybex books by Todd Lamel...are they any good? they did a great job in preparing me for my CCNA cert. Just what exactly are them Boson tests? and where can I get some?? much thanks _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boson tests??
Kyle, I started preparing for the CCNP routing exam last Spring. I read two ACRC books published by Cisco. Then in the Summer I missed the deadline for taking the version 1 exam. I was again ready to prepare for the version 2 exam in October and I looked at several books. I purchased the Exam Cram Routing book while I was waiting for the Cisco Press publication to hit the streets. Looking back I thought the Exam Cram book was a good exam prep type book until I read the one by Paquet and Teare. The BSCN Cisco publication by Catherine Paquet and Diane Teare came out in early November and it totally eclipsed the ACRC books and the Exam Cram Routing book. Paquet and Teare have done an excellent job in writing a clear, concise Routing course book. The labs are excellent and do-able. This book will be in my reference library as a permanent resident. I am at the end stage in preparing for the Routing exam, I am scheduled to take it this Thursday. I bought the Boson CCNP practice exams and have been taking them for the past two weeks. The exams are a good drill for going back over the material I have read in the text (looking up the details in items I missed). They are also a good way to learn the commands when you must type them in as the answer to the test questions. The exam questions are rather simple and I hear that the real thing has questions that require reasoning. Overall the Boson exams are accurate, I have found a couple BGP questions on topics not covered in the Cisco Press book and a couple actual errors and some that are not scored properly. I will be a better judge of their effectiveness after Thursday morning. HTH, Tom -- Tom Keough MCSE CCNA ATT Global Network Solutions Standard Access Management Managed Router Service Tier 2 Technical Support Tampa, Florida ""Kyle Sie"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... hi everyone I'm looking forward to attain my CCNP. just exactly what are the everso famous Boson Tests?? I'm currently using the Sybex books by Todd Lamel...are they any good? they did a great job in preparing me for my CCNA cert. Just what exactly are them Boson tests? and where can I get some?? much thanks _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BOSON Tests on BSCN...!
I agree this test was very good. The others for the CCNP track are not however. The BCRAN and Switching tests were not relevant to the material being test over so save your money on those. I'm looking at the CCPrep.com folks for other tests. I understand that their people go down and take the tests every two months to see if they are in the ballpark or not. ""Kenneth"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8tun5n$jdt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8tun5n$jdt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... That is why it's good. A lot of people complain that it's hard and it has a lot of information you don't need to pass the exam... I think this is how all test preparation tools should be designed. ""GNOME"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8tumf3$gvi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8tumf3$gvi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Boson test is so hard! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Has anybody used BOSON Tests for BSCN...? How good are they...? Can somebody respond..! TIA Kiran __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BOSON Tests on BSCN...!
Title: RE: BOSON Tests on BSCN...! Very good - You need to be getting 100% on Boson before attempting the exam. Know BGP well! Good Luck Luke -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 8:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BOSON Tests on BSCN...! Has anybody used BOSON Tests for BSCN...? How good are they...? Can somebody respond..! TIA Kiran __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BOSON Tests on BSCN...!
Boson test is so hard! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Has anybody used BOSON Tests for BSCN...? How good are they...? Can somebody respond..! TIA Kiran __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BOSON Tests on BSCN...!
That is why it's good. A lot of people complain that it's hard and it has a lot of information you don't need to pass the exam... I think this is how all test preparation tools should be designed. ""GNOME"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8tumf3$gvi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8tumf3$gvi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Boson test is so hard! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Has anybody used BOSON Tests for BSCN...? How good are they...? Can somebody respond..! TIA Kiran __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson Tests for BSCN
Jeff McCoy wrote: i used boson #2 and 3, did 95% consistently on them and passed BSCN with 850. -jm ""Keith Townsend"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8tpht7$5oo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8tpht7$5oo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I just brought the Boson tests for the BSCN and took the first test. I did well considering I still have a bunch of BGP studying to do. The test seemed kinda easy(or I'm just smarter than I thawt :-O). My question is to those who have used these tests and taken the BSCN. Are the questions generally easier on the Boson than on the real exam? If they are representative of what's on the exam then I'll be placing a call to Sylvan sooner than I thought. Thanks, Keith _ I used Boson BSCN Test#1 because I'd been studying various sources and had no way to guage my readiness for the real exam. I found the Boson test helpful in showing me a few areas I was still weak in, then went in and passed the real deal w/ a 919. Like the other Cisco exams I'd taken, the real test was very different from the practice one; but IF you use the practice test as a learning tool so that you actually understand the material, then whatever format or viewpoint the question presents is not much of an issue. -- Dan Henry CCNA, CCDA Network Engineer II Broadwing, Inc. / ZoomTown.Com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson Tests for BSCN
i used boson #2 and 3, did 95% consistently on them and passed BSCN with 850. -jm ""Keith Townsend"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8tpht7$5oo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8tpht7$5oo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I just brought the Boson tests for the BSCN and took the first test. I did well considering I still have a bunch of BGP studying to do. The test seemed kinda easy(or I'm just smarter than I thawt :-O). My question is to those who have used these tests and taken the BSCN. Are the questions generally easier on the Boson than on the real exam? If they are representative of what's on the exam then I'll be placing a call to Sylvan sooner than I thought. Thanks, Keith _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson tests
Hi, I used the Boson test for BCRAN (test #1) and I found it very useful. The questions were almost the same as in the BCRAN exam. -Tapani- Rod Christie wrote: Hi all, I've used the Boson tests for BCMSN (test #1, Harder than the actual exam, which use great!). But now its time for BCRAN and BSCN, which will be done over the next month. Can anyone please give feed back to the group on which tests they have found usefull and why for the above tests. Just as a side point we have installed the Boson tests on to our Meta Frame server so that we can access the tests remotely on the weekend before sittings the tests. This works great and gets around the single installation problem. In talking with Boson we made sure we had the correct lics. Thanks in Adv. Rod **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson tests are poor for preparation!
as expectedstill in Beta mode ...that's why "rtc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Do not use Boson tests. They do not prepare you for the BSCN exam! They simply have no resemblence to the real thing. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson Tests (Which ones?)
I used the Boson exams (1st one, not the expansions) for each of the CCNP exams.. they were pretty helpful in that they test your knowledge.. some tests reflect some questions on the actual exam.. but don't rely on that, just use them to quiz yourself. They have a practice exam for each of the courses in the CCNP track (1.0, not sure if they have all the 2.0 exams). Also, if your changing machines (ie: work gave you a laptop) then email boson support and explain your situation.. they were very helpful when I swapped machines.. Not sure about the Nortel exams.. Hope that helps.. Russ.. ""Stuart Laubstein"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have used the Boson test before and liked them but now I was wondering if anyone might advise on the best ones to purchase--I am going for CCNP--I had CMTD and CMTD expansion and ACRC 1 from Boson but I may lose them as I am switching computers. I notice that now there are many more courses listed at Boson--I dont recognize the teachers though.. Are there any you would suggest either positively or negatively? thanks stuart As an aside has anyone tried the other tests Boson offers like Linux or Nortel etc? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Tests
groupstudy archives -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dick Silva Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Tests Hello there... Would someone tell me where I may find information about the Boson Tests that appear to be recommended. Thank you. DS ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson Tests
I pass the exam with 8xx score. For simple question is good enough, but hardest question(truly hard not include any reading material) not cover in Boson test. Lammle book miss out a lot of wan protcol material. For my recommendation, you read Lammle Book and ICRC book. By using your clear mind clear CCNA test. Rex Chan MCP, MCSE, MCSD, MCDBA, CCNA "Adam Hickey" wrote in message 01bfd64b$40ef9e80$d8771ee2@noc6... I used boson and Lammle and got an 869. I'd recommend them. Adam Hickey CCNA MCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Charles Gatrelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:47 PM Subject: Boson Tests Can anyone that has used the Boson Tests for the CCNA, provide feedback. Was it a good study aid? Would you say it helped in passing the test? Or would you say that the books (Lammle and Chappell) were enough? Thanks, Charles R. Gatrelle This email is intended for the named recipient(s) only and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. Nothing in this email is intended to constitute a waiver of any privilege or the confidentiality of this message. If you have received this email in error, please notify me immediately by reply and delete this message. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson Tests
I used boson and Lammle and got an 869. I'd recommend them. Adam Hickey CCNA MCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Charles Gatrelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:47 PM Subject: Boson Tests Can anyone that has used the Boson Tests for the CCNA, provide feedback. Was it a good study aid? Would you say it helped in passing the test? Or would you say that the books (Lammle and Chappell) were enough? Thanks, Charles R. Gatrelle This email is intended for the named recipient(s) only and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. Nothing in this email is intended to constitute a waiver of any privilege or the confidentiality of this message. If you have received this email in error, please notify me immediately by reply and delete this message. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
