Re: Cisco Certified Salaries
Chad, With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. Keep chugging along! -Brad ""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
FYI... I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both got jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also have a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises. -Ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Ellis Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries Chad, With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. Keep chugging along! -Brad ""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
It will depend on where you are locatedjust like real estate. If you really want to compare, compare with people in your area, that will be the only accurate measure. JL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Ellis Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries Chad, With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. Keep chugging along! -Brad ""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certified Salaries
$29k is very low in the IT industry. Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should be making 40-50k It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each other. - Original Message - From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certified Salaries
I agree with Brad the your best bet is to "Keep chugging along", get some more experience under belt. However, Brad, I don't think Chad was wanting to be told that he "deserves" $150K/yr for his certs. Although I also agree with another person that responded, that it depends on where you are, I still think $29K/yr is low for MSCE/CCNA/CCDA *anywhere*. Just to give you an idea, I live in a college town of around 65,000 (100,000 with students included), and someone with MSCE could easily get a job around here for $40K/yr or more. I know a MSCE in the St. Louis area will pull in at least $45K/yr. My brother-in-law in St. Louis with only about 6 months of PC/Network Support experience, who got his CCNA about a month ago (he also has MCSE) just landed a job with a Fortune 500 company @ $60K/yr. If you have MSCE/CCNA/CCDA, and you're only getting $29K/yr, find a new employer. If no one in your area is willing to pay more, move to a new city! IMHO, Cisco certs are virtually worthless in small towns (100,000 or less) because the demand is so low (i.e. there may only be 5-10 positions in the whole town for someone Cisco Certified) compared to larger cities (500,000 or above). MSCE/CNE are definitely helpful in those same small towns (100,000 or less), but are almost a dime a dozen in larger cities (500,00 or above). My 2 cents =) Mike W. "Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8he92i$vl0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8he92i$vl0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Chad, > > With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need > to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to > get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay > OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that > experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. > > Keep chugging along! > -Brad > ""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low > to > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > > > Best Regards, > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certified Salaries
I think you are a perfect example of the difference between having certs, having experience and having certs and experience. I started out in the Unix track 12 years ago, I don't have any Unix certs. Before that I had about 8 years on PCs. Then I moved into the Banyan world and got all their certs. (CBS, CBI, CBE). Although I was quite the Banyan Bigot, I wasn't blind. I got my MCSE 5 years ago and I was employed in jobs that used Unix/Banyan/NT. Two years ago I saw that MCSE was getting to be a paper cert, I didn't like that and started to study Cisco. Last year I got the CCNA/CCDA. I was extremely lucky to land a contract where I used Cisco equipment 5 days a week eight hours a day for appx 5 months. Not just getting a little hands on but I had a rack of 6 routers and a couple of switches where I did configuration verification and design. Not bad for a CCNA/CCDA. In the last 2 months I have taken and passed CLSC/CMTD/ACRC (I woke one day and put myself on a schedule). I am now 1 exam away from CCNP and one exam away from CCDP. So, you have a bunch of certs, I have a bunch of certs - what's the difference? About 20 years in the industry. In your case you did not mention if you take leadership roles or if you perform junior tasks. Changing tapes with a PhD doesn't mean you get paid big bucks, you're still changing tapes. However, if you are doing the leadership roles like planning a migration of a large company (with the paper work that entails) and then leading the team that does it then no matter what your age or length of time in the industry, you should be getting paid for it if you do it. I'm not trying to put you down at all, once you get the time in and get the leadership type of roles, the money will follow. Another factor of course is location. Someone in a big city is going to make more than the guy in a small town. But then again, the big city guy will have higher cost of living expenses too. Get more experience, in that experience try to get more senior roles. If necessary move to a larger market. Everything will follow after that. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 04 June, 2000 15:00 Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
3com in Milpitas pays that much? Dang.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ryan Ward Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries FYI... I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both got jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also have a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises. -Ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Ellis Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries Chad, With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. Keep chugging along! -Brad ""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
No wonder 3Com stock is in the tank right now. :) Kevin At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote: >3com in Milpitas pays that much? Dang.. > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Ryan Ward >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >FYI... > >I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both got >jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also have >a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little >experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises. > >-Ryan > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Brad Ellis >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >Chad, > >With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need >to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to >get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay >OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that >experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. > >Keep chugging along! >-Brad >""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low >to > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > > > Best Regards, > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Kevin S. Mahler, CCNP, CCDA, CCSE Systems Engineer, Cisco Systems Atlanta, GA Author of CCNA Training Guide, New Riders, ISBN 0735700516 Tech Editor of CCDA Exam Certification Guide, Cisco Press, ISBN 0735700745 Revision Author of Internetworking Technologies Handbook Third Edition, Cisco Press See my homepage at <http://www.kmahler.com> --- - ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
That amount of money is not a lot for the Peninsula or South Bay... -Brad At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote: >3com in Milpitas pays that much? Dang.. > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Ryan Ward >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >FYI... > >I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both got >jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also have >a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little >experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises. > >-Ryan > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Brad Ellis >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >Chad, > >With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need >to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to >get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay >OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that >experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. > >Keep chugging along! >-Brad >""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of >> (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) >> experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently >> persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low >to >> me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. >> >> Best Regards, >> Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA >> >> ___ >> UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> --- > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
That's a lot without work experience. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Beck Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries That amount of money is not a lot for the Peninsula or South Bay... -Brad At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote: >3com in Milpitas pays that much? Dang.. > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Ryan Ward >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >FYI... > >I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both got >jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also have >a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little >experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises. > >-Ryan > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Brad Ellis >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >Chad, > >With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need >to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to >get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay >OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that >experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. > >Keep chugging along! >-Brad >""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of >> (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) >> experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently >> persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low >to >> me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. >> >> Best Regards, >> Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA >> >> ___ >> UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> --- > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, it REALLY depends on where you are on the earth. I have around 1 yr experience. Got MCSE, CCNA & MCDBA and TTT. Guess what? I will be looking for a job in Hong Kong (NOT a 3rd world country though) around July, and what I am aiming to get is $US29K p.a. In HK, experience (in the IT industry) is the key for high salary. No other trick. Of course I want more. But who cares about my desire? Dave. >From: "Michael L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Michael L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 16:56:55 -0500 > >I agree with Brad the your best bet is to "Keep chugging along", get some >more experience under belt. > >However, Brad, I don't think Chad was wanting to be told that he "deserves" >$150K/yr for his certs. > >Although I also agree with another person that responded, that it depends >on >where you are, I still think $29K/yr is low for MSCE/CCNA/CCDA *anywhere*. >Just to give you an idea, I live in a college town of around 65,000 >(100,000 >with students included), and someone with MSCE could easily get a job >around >here for $40K/yr or more. I know a MSCE in the St. Louis area will pull in >at least $45K/yr. My brother-in-law in St. Louis with only about 6 months >of PC/Network Support experience, who got his CCNA about a month ago (he >also has MCSE) just landed a job with a Fortune 500 company @ >$60K/yr. > >If you have MSCE/CCNA/CCDA, and you're only getting $29K/yr, find a new >employer. If no one in your area is willing to pay more, move to a new >city! > >IMHO, Cisco certs are virtually worthless in small towns (100,000 or less) >because the demand is so low (i.e. there may only be 5-10 positions in the >whole town for someone Cisco Certified) compared to larger cities (500,000 >or above). MSCE/CNE are definitely helpful in those same small towns >(100,000 or less), but are almost a dime a dozen in larger cities (500,00 >or >above). > >My 2 cents =) > >Mike W. > >"Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >8he92i$vl0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8he92i$vl0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Chad, > > > > With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still >need > > to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very >hard >to > > get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't >pay > > OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that > > experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. > > > > Keep chugging along! > > -Brad > > ""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > 001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months >of > > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems >low > > to > > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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NOTE: I am not a CCIE yet. I'm 26, work as a Level 2 WAN admin (out of 4 levels, and getting promoted to a 3 shortly), and make a base of $60k (and a $3k sign on bonus when I started) + $12k added to my salary for being on call 24x7x365. This is in Las Vegas which is typically considerd a very low-end of the marketplace (because the Casinos are cheap as hell! Never work in one! I did and it sucked! Besides, they are ALL Token Ring because of the sheel number of IBM/AS400 dominance. I now work 10 miles away from the strip). I only get called once or twice a week, usually I can resolve the issue from home. Prior to this job I had my MCSE and CCNA (Jan 1999, worked at the Tropicana Hotel as a Network Admin), although I now realize more than ever that hands on is the only true measure of ones abilities. When I completed my MCSE I knew right away I had wasted 10 weeks of my time taking 6 exams in relation to my career, but I did learn alot about NT and was glad for my own sake of knowledge, but nothing I would want to brag about to other "System admins". In 99% of the REAL network jobs, the Network Administrator is not responsible for Servers or operating systems. The only concern should be packets, cells, circuits, troublshooting, and monitoring, among a few others. Forget Exchange, SQL Server, NT Domains, and all that other crap. Don't get me wrong, it's good to know, but only for your own knowledge and troubleshooting purposes, don't let your employer make your responsible for that crap. A Senior Level Network Administrator should never have to worry about the work of System Administrators and an Operations department. BTW, I heard Sprint Long Distance (not Sprint the loca carrier or Paranet/ENS) is offering CCIEs $120k + $30k sign on bonus. This came straight from one of their enigneers. - Original Message - From: Kevin S. Mahler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > No wonder 3Com stock is in the tank right now. > > :) > > Kevin > > > At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote: > >3com in Milpitas pays that much? Dang.. > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Ryan Ward > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > >FYI... > > > >I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both got > >jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also have > >a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little > >experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises. > > > >-Ryan > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Brad Ellis > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > >Chad, > > > >With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need > >to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to > >get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay > >OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that > >experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. > > > >Keep chugging along! > >-Brad > >""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low > >to > > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > > > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www
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Lets see how long they last ! The last place I worked at took on an MCSE who had done ICRC and ACRC, but 0 experience, lasted 6 months. I remember him comming to me just before he left for a Network Administrators job, " What does a Network Administrator do exactly, Oh yes, and just go over how a hub works, and that VLAN thingy ". Experience wins ! Steve - Original Message - From: Ryan Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:25 PM Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > FYI... > > I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both got > jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also have > a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little > experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises. > > -Ryan > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Brad Ellis > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > Chad, > > With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need > to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to > get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay > OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that > experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. > > Keep chugging along! > -Brad > ""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low > to > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > > > Best Regards, > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry Chad, Are you US, UK ? Steve - Original Message - From: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 8:00 PM Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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With houses in the 100-200k range you are doing real well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Holloway Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:41 PM To: Kevin S. Mahler; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries NOTE: I am not a CCIE yet. I'm 26, work as a Level 2 WAN admin (out of 4 levels, and getting promoted to a 3 shortly), and make a base of $60k (and a $3k sign on bonus when I started) + $12k added to my salary for being on call 24x7x365. This is in Las Vegas which is typically considerd a very low-end of the marketplace (because the Casinos are cheap as hell! Never work in one! I did and it sucked! Besides, they are ALL Token Ring because of the sheel number of IBM/AS400 dominance. I now work 10 miles away from the strip). I only get called once or twice a week, usually I can resolve the issue from home. Prior to this job I had my MCSE and CCNA (Jan 1999, worked at the Tropicana Hotel as a Network Admin), although I now realize more than ever that hands on is the only true measure of ones abilities. When I completed my MCSE I knew right away I had wasted 10 weeks of my time taking 6 exams in relation to my career, but I did learn alot about NT and was glad for my own sake of knowledge, but nothing I would want to brag about to other "System admins". In 99% of the REAL network jobs, the Network Administrator is not responsible for Servers or operating systems. The only concern should be packets, cells, circuits, troublshooting, and monitoring, among a few others. Forget Exchange, SQL Server, NT Domains, and all that other crap. Don't get me wrong, it's good to know, but only for your own knowledge and troubleshooting purposes, don't let your employer make your responsible for that crap. A Senior Level Network Administrator should never have to worry about the work of System Administrators and an Operations department. BTW, I heard Sprint Long Distance (not Sprint the loca carrier or Paranet/ENS) is offering CCIEs $120k + $30k sign on bonus. This came straight from one of their enigneers. - Original Message - From: Kevin S. Mahler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > No wonder 3Com stock is in the tank right now. > > :) > > Kevin > > > At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote: > >3com in Milpitas pays that much? Dang.. > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Ryan Ward > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > >FYI... > > > >I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both got > >jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also have > >a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little > >experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises. > > > >-Ryan > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Brad Ellis > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 12:06 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > >Chad, > > > >With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still need > >to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very hard to > >get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't pay > >OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that > >experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. > > > >Keep chugging along! > >-Brad > >""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low > >to > > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report miscon
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I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is underpaid no matter where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a CCNA. At least it was 3 years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan development. Derek S. Winchester Sr. Wan Engineer Data Communications Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 410-953-4887 Cell: 443-562-3456 -Original Message- From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries $29k is very low in the IT industry. Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should be making 40-50k It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each other. - Original Message - From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I only make $45,000 a year and I am a CCNP, CCDA, MCSE, MCT - Original Message - From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:00 PM Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, after reading all the posts regarding this subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, with a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting 27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? * I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is underpaid no matter where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a CCNA. At least it was 3 years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan development. Derek S. Winchester Sr. Wan Engineer Data Communications Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 410-953-4887 Cell: 443-562-3456 -Original Message- From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries $29k is very low in the IT industry. Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should be making 40-50k It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each other. - Original Message - From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes. Quit today! Go to www.dice.com and find another job in your area. Where do you live anyway? >From: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:49:32 -0700 (PDT) > >Well, after reading all the posts regarding this >subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value >is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow >professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, with >a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting >27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? > >* >I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is >underpaid no matter >where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a >CCNA. At least it was 3 >years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan >development. > >Derek S. Winchester >Sr. Wan Engineer >Data Communications Department >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Phone: 410-953-4887 >Cell: 443-562-3456 > > >-Original Message- >From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM >To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >$29k is very low in the IT industry. > >Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should >be making 40-50k > >It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each >other. > >- Original Message - >From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM >Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I >have about 3 months of > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs >on the side) > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and >CCDA. I am currently > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus >overtime. This seems low >to > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar >situation is making. > > > > Best Regards, > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! >http://photos.yahoo.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Gee you really need to change jobs. I know of a company that will pay about 40K with almost no experience. -Original Message- From: James Gan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries Well, after reading all the posts regarding this subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, with a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting 27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? * I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is underpaid no matter where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a CCNA. At least it was 3 years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan development. Derek S. Winchester Sr. Wan Engineer Data Communications Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 410-953-4887 Cell: 443-562-3456 -Original Message- From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries $29k is very low in the IT industry. Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should be making 40-50k It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each other. - Original Message - From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes indeed! I work in Paraguay (very third world), CCNA and CCDA (the only one), and considered one of the most knowledgeable guys in the field, and I make around 11K (varies with the exchange rates, but it usually goes down rather than up). However, I make about 7 times the minimum salary, and can afford a somewhat good living (or very good, depending on who do you compare to), not a Cisco lab, though Having said that, I started with the minimum 3 years ago, so experience, and then certs, is the way to go for me. Francisco Muniz - CCNA, CCDA "Dave W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en el mensaje de noticias [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yes, it REALLY depends on where you are on the earth. > > I have around 1 yr experience. Got MCSE, CCNA & MCDBA and TTT. Guess what? > I will be looking for a job in Hong Kong (NOT a 3rd world country though) > around July, and what I am aiming to get is $US29K p.a. > In HK, experience (in the IT industry) is the key for high salary. No other > trick. > > Of course I want more. But who cares about my desire? > > Dave. > > >From: "Michael L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Michael L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 16:56:55 -0500 > > > >I agree with Brad the your best bet is to "Keep chugging along", get some > >more experience under belt. > > > >However, Brad, I don't think Chad was wanting to be told that he "deserves" > >$150K/yr for his certs. > > > >Although I also agree with another person that responded, that it depends > >on > >where you are, I still think $29K/yr is low for MSCE/CCNA/CCDA *anywhere*. > >Just to give you an idea, I live in a college town of around 65,000 > >(100,000 > >with students included), and someone with MSCE could easily get a job > >around > >here for $40K/yr or more. I know a MSCE in the St. Louis area will pull in > >at least $45K/yr. My brother-in-law in St. Louis with only about 6 months > >of PC/Network Support experience, who got his CCNA about a month ago (he > >also has MCSE) just landed a job with a Fortune 500 company @ > >$60K/yr. > > > >If you have MSCE/CCNA/CCDA, and you're only getting $29K/yr, find a new > >employer. If no one in your area is willing to pay more, move to a new > >city! > > > >IMHO, Cisco certs are virtually worthless in small towns (100,000 or less) > >because the demand is so low (i.e. there may only be 5-10 positions in the > >whole town for someone Cisco Certified) compared to larger cities (500,000 > >or above). MSCE/CNE are definitely helpful in those same small towns > >(100,000 or less), but are almost a dime a dozen in larger cities (500,00 > >or > >above). > > > >My 2 cents =) > > > >Mike W. > > > >"Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >8he92i$vl0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8he92i$vl0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Chad, > > > > > > With 3 months of experience what do you expect??? $150k/yr? You still > >need > > > to "prove" yourself. No offense, but the certs you have aren't very > >hard > >to > > > get. If you get overtime, that is a pretty cool...a lot of places won't > >pay > > > OT these days. Give yourself a year or two in the business. After that > > > experience, plus a CCNP you should be closer to $60-$70k /yr. > > > > > > Keep chugging along! > > > -Brad > > > ""Chad A. Simmons, MCSE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > 001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001e01bfce57$292af160$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months > >of > > > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > > > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > > > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems > >low > > > to > > > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > > Report misconduct an
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I hate to get involved in this but I have seen some responses that were not well thought out. I worked with a guy who had much experience here in the DC/Metro area with routing and switching in a large government agency. He moved out to the Denver area and the best offer he could get was $29k with HP. He returned to the DC/Metro area to get $100k+. "I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is underpaid no matter where you live" is not accurate at all. The market you live in will determine what you get paid. Some areas have a small IT market with many people around with certs and experience that will dictate lower pay. You make $60k in some areas and you are rich. Go to NY city and you will be living in the streets. $27k maybe good money in you area. All I can say is to look around and see if you can make more. Duncan At 07:49 AM 6/5/00 -0700, James Gan wrote: >Well, after reading all the posts regarding this >subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value >is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow >professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, with >a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting >27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? > >* >I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is >underpaid no matter >where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a >CCNA. At least it was 3 >years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan >development. > >Derek S. Winchester >Sr. Wan Engineer >Data Communications Department >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Phone: 410-953-4887 >Cell: 443-562-3456 > > >-Original Message- >From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM >To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >$29k is very low in the IT industry. > >Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should >be making 40-50k > >It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each >other. > >- Original Message - >From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM >Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I >have about 3 months of > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs >on the side) > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and >CCDA. I am currently > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus >overtime. This seems low >to > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar >situation is making. > > > > Best Regards, > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! >http://photos.yahoo.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Duncan Maccubbin | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Network Engineer MCP+I,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP CapuNet, LLC - Corporate Internet Solutions (301) 881-4900 x8039 === ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Definably, you are way below underpay. -Original Message- From: James Gan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries Well, after reading all the posts regarding this subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, with a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting 27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? * I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is underpaid no matter where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a CCNA. At least it was 3 years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan development. Derek S. Winchester Sr. Wan Engineer Data Communications Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 410-953-4887 Cell: 443-562-3456 -Original Message- From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries $29k is very low in the IT industry. Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should be making 40-50k It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each other. - Original Message - From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low to > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > Best Regards, > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I know that this is for Microsoft Certifications, but it should still give you a good idea about what you can get depending on your: o Experience o Location o Skills o Certifications o etc... http://209.134.33.93/2000salary.asp Take care, Ole ~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah, only common sense tells you to validate salary against area. -Original Message- From: Duncan Maccubbin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries I hate to get involved in this but I have seen some responses that were not well thought out. I worked with a guy who had much experience here in the DC/Metro area with routing and switching in a large government agency. He moved out to the Denver area and the best offer he could get was $29k with HP. He returned to the DC/Metro area to get $100k+. "I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is underpaid no matter where you live" is not accurate at all. The market you live in will determine what you get paid. Some areas have a small IT market with many people around with certs and experience that will dictate lower pay. You make $60k in some areas and you are rich. Go to NY city and you will be living in the streets. $27k maybe good money in you area. All I can say is to look around and see if you can make more. Duncan At 07:49 AM 6/5/00 -0700, James Gan wrote: >Well, after reading all the posts regarding this >subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value >is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow >professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, with >a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting >27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? > >* >I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is >underpaid no matter >where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a >CCNA. At least it was 3 >years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan >development. > >Derek S. Winchester >Sr. Wan Engineer >Data Communications Department >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Phone: 410-953-4887 >Cell: 443-562-3456 > > >-Original Message- >From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM >To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >$29k is very low in the IT industry. > >Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should >be making 40-50k > >It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each >other. > >- Original Message - >From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM >Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I >have about 3 months of > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs >on the side) > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and >CCDA. I am currently > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus >overtime. This seems low >to > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar >situation is making. > > > > Best Regards, > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! >http://photos.yahoo.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Duncan Maccubbin | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Network Engineer MCP+I,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP CapuNet, LLC - Corporate Internet Solutions (301) 881-4900 x8039 === ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm in Iowa. and thought that's abt the normal rate here. --- Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. Quit today! Go to www.dice.com and find another > job in your area. > > Where do you live anyway? > > > >From: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:49:32 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Well, after reading all the posts regarding this > >subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value > >is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow > >professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, > with > >a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting > >27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? > > > >* > >I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field > is > >underpaid no matter > >where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a > >CCNA. At least it was 3 > >years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan > >development. > > > >Derek S. Winchester > >Sr. Wan Engineer > >Data Communications Department > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Phone: 410-953-4887 > >Cell: 443-562-3456 > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM > >To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > >$29k is very low in the IT industry. > > > >Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you > should > >be making 40-50k > > > >It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each > >other. > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM > >Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I > >have about 3 months of > > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting > jobs > >on the side) > > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, > and > >CCDA. I am currently > > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus > >overtime. This seems low > >to > > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar > >situation is making. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > >http://im.yahoo.com > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > >http://photos.yahoo.com > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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NEVER QUIT A JOB. 29000 is low, but you only have 3 months experience. Look and plan interviews while still getting work experience from present employer. Tom Trygar Dale Holmes wrote: > Yes. Quit today! Go to www.dice.com and find another job in your area. > > Where do you live anyway? > > >From: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:49:32 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Well, after reading all the posts regarding this > >subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value > >is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow > >professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, with > >a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting > >27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? > > > >* > >I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is > >underpaid no matter > >where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a > >CCNA. At least it was 3 > >years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan > >development. > > > >Derek S. Winchester > >Sr. Wan Engineer > >Data Communications Department > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Phone: 410-953-4887 > >Cell: 443-562-3456 > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM > >To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > >$29k is very low in the IT industry. > > > >Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should > >be making 40-50k > > > >It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each > >other. > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM > >Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I > >have about 3 months of > > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs > >on the side) > > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and > >CCDA. I am currently > > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus > >overtime. This seems low > >to > > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar > >situation is making. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > >http://im.yahoo.com > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > >http://photos.yahoo.com > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't know where you live, but in Denver you'd most likely be making 20k/year more than that with those qualifications. Of course, as usual, this depends on experience and who you decide to work for, but generally IT salaries are pretty high here. > I only make $45,000 a year and I am a CCNP, CCDA, MCSE, MCT > - Original Message - > From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:00 PM > Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I have about 3 months of > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs on the side) > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, and CCDA. I am currently > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus overtime. This seems low > to > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar situation is making. > > > > Best Regards, > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well said. I love it. A CCIE in any third world country could earn less than a KFC staff in big cities. A medical doctor earns <$US20,000 in countries like Vietnam. No surprise. All in all, it's about supply & demand plus fortune involved. Dave. >From: Duncan Maccubbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Duncan Maccubbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries >Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:43:41 -0400 > > I hate to get involved in this but I have seen some responses that were >not well thought out. I worked with a guy who had much experience here in >the DC/Metro area with routing and switching in a large government agency. >He moved out to the Denver area and the best offer he could get was $29k >with HP. He returned to the DC/Metro area to get $100k+. "I agree anyone >making less than 60k in this field is underpaid no matter where you live" >is not accurate at all. The market you live in will determine what you get >paid. Some areas have a small IT market with many people around with certs >and experience that will dictate lower pay. You make $60k in some areas and >you are rich. Go to NY city and you will be living in the streets. $27k >maybe good money in you area. All I can say is to look around and see if >you can make more. > >Duncan Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thomas: CCIE required skill #1 - Attention to detail - Chad only has 3 months experience, James has 3 yrs. experience, makes 27K (not 29, again that is Chad), and is pathetically under paid. James: Call the folks in the ad below if they are anywhere near you. They are looking for someone in the Des Moines area. The ad I've pasted below pays around $70k. They have more jobs in IA. Call them, get one, make money, be happy... If you take one of their jobs, tell them they owe me a finders fee! [=`) To all: Remember that tech jobs are a dime a dozen, no matter what the HR people say. You are worth what you will settle for... Weigh your options against your own personal time and budget constraints. Of course, you probably should not QUIT a job until you have landed another one, BUT if you are as dramatically underpaid as James, and you have the skills (and certs), RUN SCREAMING IN TERROR!!! FAX your resume at every opportunity!!! Job ad below*** Prestigious Des Moines client seeks Network Operations Manager to lead staff of six PC operators. Responsibilities include performance analysis and assessment by using performance tools and working toward problem resolution. Your staff will be responsible for scheduled maintnance to prevent component failures during business hours, printer administration and supporting change control processes. The successful candidate will work with GroupWise electronic mail and FORE data communications equipment. Fulltime salaried position to $70K with excellent company benefits. For more information on this position or other opportunities in the Des Moines area, call Mark Whitcomb at 515/223-9525 email resume to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Requisition Number: 407997 Ideal technical background will include Novell, Windows NT and CISCO routers. RHIConsulting is an E.E.O. Please contact us - Address: 1200 35th Street Suite 600, West Des Moines, IA 50266-1906 Phone: (515) 223-9525 Fax: (515) 221-9771 >From: Thomas Trygar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Thomas Trygar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries >Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:30:38 -0400 > >NEVER QUIT A JOB. 29000 is low, but you only have 3 months experience. Look >and plan interviews while still getting work experience from present >employer. > >Tom Trygar > >Dale Holmes wrote: > > > Yes. Quit today! Go to www.dice.com and find another job in your area. > > > > Where do you live anyway? > > > > >From: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:49:32 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >Well, after reading all the posts regarding this > > >subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value > > >is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow > > >professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, with > > >a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting > > >27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? > > > > > >* > > >I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is > > >underpaid no matter > > >where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a > > >CCNA. At least it was 3 > > >years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan > > >development. > > > > > >Derek S. Winchester > > >Sr. Wan Engineer > > >Data Communications Department > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Phone: 410-953-4887 > > >Cell: 443-562-3456 > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM > > >To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > > > > >$29k is very low in the IT industry. > > > > > >Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should > > >be making 40-50k > > > > > >It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each > > >other. > > > > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM > > >Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > > > > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I > > >have about 3 months of > > > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting jobs > &
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Yep, I will second that. I was hired to be the Network and Facility Administrator. I got into trouble (kind of) because I got tired of hearing one of the junior Sys Admin complaining about MS when he was repairing a server and help him out. My boss came by and told me to get back to my stuff and let the junior admin do his job. He said I was hired to do Cisco and not MS. I am starting to tell the other staffs (users) that as soon as it come out of the wall jack, it is not my responsibility and they have to talk to the other MIS staffs. By the way, I only have two months experiences. (no IT before this job) Live in a high cost and low IT wage area, Vancouver Canada, and make more than $29,000us. Get motivated, I mean studying. Read everything on this list. If you see ANY thing that you don't understand, find the answer in CCO. Practice at home every night. Put yourself on a schedule to get your CCNP in four months. THAN go and have a talk with your boss. If you know your stuff (even with less than 1 year experiences), you will be able to find a fun job that pays well and is challenging. I did. I just finish setting up a VoIP (with help of people on this list). I am now doing the planning for a 144 VoIP setup, collocation for our server farm, planning a redesign of our entire network. Oh, start collecting business cards. Albert ""Mark Holloway"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 001501bfcea8$3467aae0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001501bfcea8$3467aae0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > NOTE: I am not a CCIE yet. > > I'm 26, work as a Level 2 WAN admin (out of 4 levels, and getting promoted > to a 3 shortly), and make a base of $60k (and a $3k sign on bonus when I > started) + $12k added to my salary for being on call 24x7x365. This is in > Las Vegas which is typically considerd a very low-end of the marketplace > (because the Casinos are cheap as hell! Never work in one! I did and it > sucked! Besides, they are ALL Token Ring because of the sheel number of > IBM/AS400 dominance. I now work 10 miles away from the strip). I only get > called once or twice a week, usually I can resolve the issue from home. > Prior to this job I had my MCSE and CCNA (Jan 1999, worked at the Tropicana > Hotel as a Network Admin), although I now realize more than ever that hands > on is the only true measure of ones abilities. When I completed my MCSE I > knew right away I had wasted 10 weeks of my time taking 6 exams in relation > to my career, but I did learn alot about NT and was glad for my own sake of > knowledge, but nothing I would want to brag about to other "System admins". > In 99% of the REAL network jobs, the Network Administrator is not > responsible for Servers or operating systems. The only concern should be > packets, cells, circuits, troublshooting, and monitoring, among a few > others. Forget Exchange, SQL Server, NT Domains, and all that other crap. > Don't get me wrong, it's good to know, but only for your own knowledge and > troubleshooting purposes, don't let your employer make your responsible for > that crap. A Senior Level Network Administrator should never have to worry > about the work of System Administrators and an Operations department. BTW, > I heard Sprint Long Distance (not Sprint the loca carrier or Paranet/ENS) > is offering CCIEs $120k + $30k sign on bonus. This came straight from one > of their enigneers. > > > - Original Message - > From: Kevin S. Mahler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:22 PM > Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > No wonder 3Com stock is in the tank right now. > > > > :) > > > > Kevin > > > > > > At 04:49 PM 6/4/00 -0700, Sam Adams wrote: > > >3com in Milpitas pays that much? Dang.. > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > >Ryan Ward > > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 1:25 PM > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > > > > >FYI... > > > > > >I know 2 guys both are fresh MCSE's and have 0 experience and they both > got > > >jobs at 2 different companies, each are paying them 75k+ a year. I also > have > > >a 3rd friend that has a job with 3Com, with only a MCSE and very little > > >experience, entry level came in at 70k and since got a couple of raises. > > > > > >-Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > >Brad Ellis > > >Sent: Sunday, June 04
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My address is incorrect so...you cannot reply to me. But I thought that I would just say I am a graduate of Iowa State University. I know that salaries for IT can be low in Iowa depending on where you live. That said, I have a friend who obtained an MCSE before graduating with an MIS degree from ISU and he made $35k upon graduation. The company paid for his MCSE classes _before_ he graduated from ISU. He worked in Des Moines and not for a large co.(about 120 desktops max). I also have an MIS degree and am almost ready to take the CCNA(mid July). I am already starting to select CCNP CCDA materials to study. In my opinion you need a CCNP / CCDP to make a buck in this field because the level of knowledge has to be there for the company to 1) hire you 2) leave you to do a task unattended. If they cannot leave you unattended to do a task...then what good are you? Thomas Working on CCNA(1 month)...CCNP / CCDP (before december possibly). James Gan wrote: > > I'm in Iowa. and thought that's abt the normal rate > here. > --- Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes. Quit today! Go to www.dice.com and find another > > job in your area. > > > > Where do you live anyway? > > > > > > >From: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:49:32 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >Well, after reading all the posts regarding this > > >subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value > > >is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow > > >professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, > > with > > >a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting > > >27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? > > > > > >* > > >I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field > > is > > >underpaid no matter > > >where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a > > >CCNA. At least it was 3 > > >years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan > > >development. > > > > > >Derek S. Winchester > > >Sr. Wan Engineer > > >Data Communications Department > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Phone: 410-953-4887 > > >Cell: 443-562-3456 > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM > > >To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > > > > >$29k is very low in the IT industry. > > > > > >Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you > > should > > >be making 40-50k > > > > > >It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each > > >other. > > > > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:00 PM > > >Subject: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > > > > > > I am a consultant for a small consulting firm. I > > >have about 3 months of > > > > (real experience. I used to do small consulting > > jobs > > >on the side) > > > > experience. I have earned my MCP, MCSE, CCNA, > > and > > >CCDA. I am currently > > > > persuing my CCNP. I make only 29,000 a year plus > > >overtime. This seems low > > >to > > > > me. I was wondering what anyone in a similar > > >situation is making. > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Chad, MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > >http://www.groupstudy.com > > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > > to > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >__ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > >http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > >___ > > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > >http://www.groupstudy.com > > >
RE: Cisco Certified Salaries
Dale, I think you hit the nail on the head. "You are worth what you settle for" Joe Quezada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Holmes Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries Thomas: CCIE required skill #1 - Attention to detail - Chad only has 3 months experience, James has 3 yrs. experience, makes 27K (not 29, again that is Chad), and is pathetically under paid. James: Call the folks in the ad below if they are anywhere near you. They are looking for someone in the Des Moines area. The ad I've pasted below pays around $70k. They have more jobs in IA. Call them, get one, make money, be happy... If you take one of their jobs, tell them they owe me a finders fee! [=`) To all: Remember that tech jobs are a dime a dozen, no matter what the HR people say. You are worth what you will settle for... Weigh your options against your own personal time and budget constraints. Of course, you probably should not QUIT a job until you have landed another one, BUT if you are as dramatically underpaid as James, and you have the skills (and certs), RUN SCREAMING IN TERROR!!! FAX your resume at every opportunity!!! Job ad below*** Prestigious Des Moines client seeks Network Operations Manager to lead staff of six PC operators. Responsibilities include performance analysis and assessment by using performance tools and working toward problem resolution. Your staff will be responsible for scheduled maintnance to prevent component failures during business hours, printer administration and supporting change control processes. The successful candidate will work with GroupWise electronic mail and FORE data communications equipment. Fulltime salaried position to $70K with excellent company benefits. For more information on this position or other opportunities in the Des Moines area, call Mark Whitcomb at 515/223-9525 email resume to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Requisition Number: 407997 Ideal technical background will include Novell, Windows NT and CISCO routers. RHIConsulting is an E.E.O. Please contact us - Address: 1200 35th Street Suite 600, West Des Moines, IA 50266-1906 Phone: (515) 223-9525 Fax: (515) 221-9771 >From: Thomas Trygar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Thomas Trygar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries >Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:30:38 -0400 > >NEVER QUIT A JOB. 29000 is low, but you only have 3 months experience. Look >and plan interviews while still getting work experience from present >employer. > >Tom Trygar > >Dale Holmes wrote: > > > Yes. Quit today! Go to www.dice.com and find another job in your area. > > > > Where do you live anyway? > > > > >From: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: James Gan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: Cisco Certified Salaries > > >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:49:32 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >Well, after reading all the posts regarding this > > >subject I'm kinda in doubt to as what my true value > > >is. what do you guys (recruiters or fellow > > >professionals) think, I've 3 years in this field, with > > >a B.A, CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, Network+. I'm getting > > >27K/yr.. Am I considered pathetic ?? > > > > > >* > > >I agree anyone making less than 60k in this field is > > >underpaid no matter > > >where you live. Starting salary is 60k even with a > > >CCNA. At least it was 3 > > >years ago when I left System Admin and went to Wan > > >development. > > > > > >Derek S. Winchester > > >Sr. Wan Engineer > > >Data Communications Department > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Phone: 410-953-4887 > > >Cell: 443-562-3456 > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: John Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:36 PM > > >To: Chad A. Simmons, MCSE; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: Cisco Certified Salaries > > > > > > > > >$29k is very low in the IT industry. > > > > > >Give yourself 2 more yrs of experience and you should > > >be making 40-50k > > > > > >It is redundant to put MCP and MCSE next to each > > >other. > > > > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Chad A. Simmons, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > &
