RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On May 10,  7:53pm, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
} 
} (Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all petite, very
} physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)
} 
} (Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't true, but
} since
} most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
} imaginations
} something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me looks like
to
} most of them.).

 There is a picture of Priscilla sitting in front of an iBook (aka
toilet seat -- I *just* had to throw that in there, the devil made me
do it :-), so it is easy to get a general idea of what she looks like.

 As for you, given your comments about being perfectly happy
swinging from the rafters in mountain climbing gear in order to install
cabling, I suspect that you are in fairly good shape which usually
translates into keeping fit, looking after yourself, not being
overweight etc., which usually means that you would be fairly good
looking (good thing my girlfriend doesn't read this list).  Beyond
that, I have no idea how tall you are, how much you weigh, what colour
your hair is, how long your hair is, what colour your eyes are, etc.
Given the above, I don't have any problem believing petite, very
physically fit, and always dressed to kill.

} PS.  Oh a way off topic we will go!  A way off topic we will go!

 Yeah, but this one sure beats the flame wars.

}-- End of excerpt from Leigh Anne Chisholm




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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On May 12,  3:21am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote:
} On May 10,  7:53pm, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
} } 
} } (Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all petite, very
} } physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)
} } 
} } (Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't true, but
} } since
} } most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
} } imaginations
} } something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me looks like
} to
} } most of them.).
} 
}  There is a picture of Priscilla sitting in front of an iBook (aka
} toilet seat -- I *just* had to throw that in there, the devil made me
} do it :-), so it is easy to get a general idea of what she looks like.

 Oops, bad editing...  it should say on her website, 

}-- End of excerpt from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)




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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-20 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

On May 10,  7:53pm, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
}
} (Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all petite, very
} physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)
}
} (Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't true, but
} since
} most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
} imaginations
} something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me looks like
to
} most of them.).

  There is a picture of Priscilla sitting in front of an iBook (aka
toilet seat -- I *just* had to throw that in there, the devil made me
do it :-), so it is easy to get a general idea of what she looks like.

  As for you, given your comments about being perfectly happy
swinging from the rafters in mountain climbing gear in order to install
cabling, I suspect that you are in fairly good shape which usually
translates into keeping fit, looking after yourself, not being
overweight etc., which usually means that you would be fairly good
looking (good thing my girlfriend doesn't read this list).  Beyond
that, I have no idea how tall you are, how much you weigh, what colour
your hair is, how long your hair is, what colour your eyes are, etc.
Given the above, I don't have any problem believing petite, very
physically fit, and always dressed to kill.

} PS.  Oh a way off topic we will go!  A way off topic we will go!

As a different picture, whenever I've seen Priscilla in formal 
presentations where casual wasn't appropriate, her business attire is 
straight from dress for success.

On a different note, I can think of times that I'm not sure my 
then-female manager dressed to kill, but certainly backstabbed a lot. 
Ninja outfits would have been a clue.

I will say that at Nortel, a general rule was that any female manager 
had significant clue, where it was fairly random among male managers. 
Nortel, however, had a very relaxed dress code.

  Yeah, but this one sure beats the flame wars.

}-- End of excerpt from Leigh Anne Chisholm




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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-20 Thread Logan, Harold

I believe this shirt should be considered appropriate:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/apparel/340c.shtml

Maybe St. Nick will hook me up with one... ;)

Hal Logan
Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty
Computing and Engineering Technology
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 Wear a Cisco shirt and kiss up to the proctor.
 
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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Yes, but how do you know that's really me? Check the pictures at this site:

http://routergod.com/fabio/

Priscilla

At 08:45 AM 12/20/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote:
On May 10,  7:53pm, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
}
} (Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all petite, very
} physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)
}
} (Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't true, but
} since
} most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
} imaginations
} something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me looks like
to
} most of them.).

  There is a picture of Priscilla sitting in front of an iBook (aka
toilet seat -- I *just* had to throw that in there, the devil made me
do it :-), so it is easy to get a general idea of what she looks like.

  As for you, given your comments about being perfectly happy
swinging from the rafters in mountain climbing gear in order to install
cabling, I suspect that you are in fairly good shape which usually
translates into keeping fit, looking after yourself, not being
overweight etc., which usually means that you would be fairly good
looking (good thing my girlfriend doesn't read this list).  Beyond
that, I have no idea how tall you are, how much you weigh, what colour
your hair is, how long your hair is, what colour your eyes are, etc.
Given the above, I don't have any problem believing petite, very
physically fit, and always dressed to kill.

} PS.  Oh a way off topic we will go!  A way off topic we will go!

  Yeah, but this one sure beats the flame wars.

}-- End of excerpt from Leigh Anne Chisholm


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-20 Thread Curtis Phillips

Actually, you are better endowed than I had thought..:-)

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]


 Yes, but how do you know that's really me? Check the pictures at this
site:

 http://routergod.com/fabio/

 Priscilla

 At 08:45 AM 12/20/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote:
 On May 10,  7:53pm, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
 }
 } (Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all petite,
very
 } physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)
 }
 } (Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't true,
but
 } since
 } most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
 } imaginations
 } something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me looks
like
 to
 } most of them.).
 
   There is a picture of Priscilla sitting in front of an iBook (aka
 toilet seat -- I *just* had to throw that in there, the devil made me
 do it :-), so it is easy to get a general idea of what she looks like.
 
   As for you, given your comments about being perfectly happy
 swinging from the rafters in mountain climbing gear in order to install
 cabling, I suspect that you are in fairly good shape which usually
 translates into keeping fit, looking after yourself, not being
 overweight etc., which usually means that you would be fairly good
 looking (good thing my girlfriend doesn't read this list).  Beyond
 that, I have no idea how tall you are, how much you weigh, what colour
 your hair is, how long your hair is, what colour your eyes are, etc.
 Given the above, I don't have any problem believing petite, very
 physically fit, and always dressed to kill.
 
 } PS.  Oh a way off topic we will go!  A way off topic we will go!
 
   Yeah, but this one sure beats the flame wars.
 
 }-- End of excerpt from Leigh Anne Chisholm
 

 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-20 Thread John Neiberger

She's the one posing with the real Fabio, not the one on the book cover!
 :-)Unless, that is, she herself decides to take credit for that
cover.  heh heh

This thread is getting spooky  

 Curtis Phillips  12/20/01 3:46:29 PM

Actually, you are better endowed than I had thought..:-)

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]


 Yes, but how do you know that's really me? Check the pictures at
this
site:

 http://routergod.com/fabio/ 

 Priscilla

 At 08:45 AM 12/20/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote:
 On May 10,  7:53pm, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
 }
 } (Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all
petite,
very
 } physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)
 }
 } (Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't
true,
but
 } since
 } most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
 } imaginations
 } something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me
looks
like
 to
 } most of them.).
 
   There is a picture of Priscilla sitting in front of an iBook
(aka
 toilet seat -- I *just* had to throw that in there, the devil made
me
 do it :-), so it is easy to get a general idea of what she looks
like.
 
   As for you, given your comments about being perfectly happy
 swinging from the rafters in mountain climbing gear in order to
install
 cabling, I suspect that you are in fairly good shape which usually
 translates into keeping fit, looking after yourself, not being
 overweight etc., which usually means that you would be fairly good
 looking (good thing my girlfriend doesn't read this list).  Beyond
 that, I have no idea how tall you are, how much you weigh, what
colour
 your hair is, how long your hair is, what colour your eyes are,
etc.
 Given the above, I don't have any problem believing petite, very
 physically fit, and always dressed to kill.
 
 } PS.  Oh a way off topic we will go!  A way off topic we will go!
 
   Yeah, but this one sure beats the flame wars.
 
 }-- End of excerpt from Leigh Anne Chisholm
 

 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Fabio is very well endowed! But you're not supposed to be looking at him! ;-)

I'm not in the pictures at all really. I had nothing to do with this weird 
site, but I think it's kind of cool.

OK, enough!! I promise no more messages on this topic,

Priscilla

At 06:12 PM 12/20/01, John Neiberger wrote:
She's the one posing with the real Fabio, not the one on the book cover!
  :-)Unless, that is, she herself decides to take credit for that
cover.  heh heh

This thread is getting spooky

  Curtis Phillips  12/20/01 3:46:29 PM
 
Actually, you are better endowed than I had thought..:-)

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]


  Yes, but how do you know that's really me? Check the pictures at
this
site:
 
  http://routergod.com/fabio/
 
  Priscilla
 
  At 08:45 AM 12/20/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote:
  On May 10,  7:53pm, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
  }
  } (Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all
petite,
very
  } physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)
  }
  } (Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't
true,
but
  } since
  } most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
  } imaginations
  } something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me
looks
like
  to
  } most of them.).
  
There is a picture of Priscilla sitting in front of an iBook
(aka
  toilet seat -- I *just* had to throw that in there, the devil made
me
  do it :-), so it is easy to get a general idea of what she looks
like.
  
As for you, given your comments about being perfectly happy
  swinging from the rafters in mountain climbing gear in order to
install
  cabling, I suspect that you are in fairly good shape which usually
  translates into keeping fit, looking after yourself, not being
  overweight etc., which usually means that you would be fairly good
  looking (good thing my girlfriend doesn't read this list).  Beyond
  that, I have no idea how tall you are, how much you weigh, what
colour
  your hair is, how long your hair is, what colour your eyes are,
etc.
  Given the above, I don't have any problem believing petite, very
  physically fit, and always dressed to kill.
  
  } PS.  Oh a way off topic we will go!  A way off topic we will go!
  
Yeah, but this one sure beats the flame wars.
  
  }-- End of excerpt from Leigh Anne Chisholm
  
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  http://www.priscilla.com


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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-20 Thread sougata maitra

Being an ex-ex-ex Novell CNI ...u dint hear wrong.
they made you do dramatics a-la-extreme...teaching
mundane and silly topics (yes it did seem mundane even
then!)
if u tried to improvise and dint follow Novell
guidelines u were in trouble.
regards


--- Chuck Larrieu  wrote:
 be sure to wear a trenchcoat, and walk in muttering
 there can be only one!
 
 oops - wrong scene.
 
 Chuck
 
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 Subject: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]
 
 
 Is it true that you have to be dressed in a suit for
 the CCIE lab?  Do them
 mark mannerisms, speech and dress?  I have some old
 Novell guys telling me
 horror stories of the Novel Instructor Program.
 
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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-19 Thread EA Louie

I was amused by this thread and read most of the other responses.  I'd say
most of them were right on track (NOT).  But they were amusing.  I'll add to
the amusement.

If you wear a proper dress and you're a guy, you'd surely get the proctors'
attention.  Especially if you shave your legs.  You might even scare them
into passing you.

My experience - dress comfortably.  Be prepared for cold.  And warm.  Be
hygienic.  (for the real nerds out there, that means take a shower and brush
your teeth.  and try not to sweat/perspire too profusely)  I never did see a
sign in there that said no shoes, no shirt, no service (oops, is that an
NDA violation?)

Also, wearing a NerdGear t-shirt with subnets/masks and the Class A B C
definitions would probably NOT be recommended.  Although I've debated
wearing mine on Jan 15th, 2002 just for kicks.

However, all this is moot and conjecture until one
1)  passes their Written Exam
2)  schedules their Lab Exam.
3)  actually shows up for their Lab.

mirthfully,
-e-

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:00 PM
Subject: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]


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them
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 horror stories of the Novel Instructor Program.

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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

1 kg = 2.2 lbs...  So you're talking about 264 lbs.  Somehow Priscilla, I
don't see you weighing that much.  For that matter, I doubt all the ladies
on
this list COMBINED would weigh that much!

(-:

(Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all petite, very
physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)

Hwell, I only know one or two of the ladies in person, but 
you're not necessarily far off. I can think of one Cisco Press 
author, a thorough expert in her subjects (plural), that is a 
distance runner and looks...impressive...in her running outfits.

Mind you, I've unfortunately lost touch with someone that worked for 
me as a very competent software developer (CLNP and ISIS conformance 
testing), and subsequently was an instructor for Synoptics.  Her main 
outside interest was being a cheerleader for the Washington Redskins, 
and also, I believe, did some fashion modeling.

So assumptions and reality may, or may not, be congruent.


(Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't true, but
since
most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
imaginations
something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me looks like to
most of them.).


   -- Leigh Anne

PS.  Oh a way off topic we will go!  A way off topic we will go!

Seasons greetings to all.


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At 06:09 PM 12/18/01, Gaz wrote:
Always on the lookout for a quick profit:

Yes:  I have a proper dress for CCIE lab.

One is part used and a low fronted affair for greatest effect on the
proctor, while the other is brand new open back with matching blue shoes.

Give me a shout if you're anywhere around 6'3 and 120kg.

What's that in pounds? It might work, especially after the Christmas
season!? ;-) (though I'm not 6'3)

We can do a deal.
Doesn't paint a pretty picture does it? Not passed yet funnily enough.

Regards,

Gaz


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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 01:17 AM 12/19/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
1 kg = 2.2 lbs...  So you're talking about 264 lbs.

Good grief! Even after gazillions of Christmas cookies I won't weigh that, 
hopefully. And if I do, I'll state it in hex: 108. ;-)

Priscilla

   Somehow Priscilla, I
don't see you weighing that much.  For that matter, I doubt all the ladies
on
this list COMBINED would weigh that much!

(-:

(Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all petite, very
physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)

(Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't true, but
since
most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
imaginations
something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me looks like to
most of them.).


   -- Leigh Anne

PS.  Oh a way off topic we will go!  A way off topic we will go!

Seasons greetings to all.


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At 06:09 PM 12/18/01, Gaz wrote:
 Always on the lookout for a quick profit:
 
 Yes:  I have a proper dress for CCIE lab.
 
 One is part used and a low fronted affair for greatest effect on the
 proctor, while the other is brand new open back with matching blue shoes.
 
 Give me a shout if you're anywhere around 6'3 and 120kg.

What's that in pounds? It might work, especially after the Christmas
season!? ;-) (though I'm not 6'3)

 We can do a deal.
 Doesn't paint a pretty picture does it? Not passed yet funnily enough.
 
 Regards,
 
 Gaz
 
 
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 them
   mark mannerisms, speech and dress?  I have some old Novell guys telling
me
   horror stories of the Novel Instructor Program.
  
   Steve


Priscilla Oppenheimer
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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-19 Thread Dennis Laganiere

Ummm... I bet some of the GUYS on the list could hit this goal (I know I'm
not that far away myself)...

Now that I think about it, perhaps I'll leave my pod for a while and go for
a walk... :-)

--- Dennis

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At 01:17 AM 12/19/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
1 kg = 2.2 lbs...  So you're talking about 264 lbs.

Good grief! Even after gazillions of Christmas cookies I won't weigh that, 
hopefully. And if I do, I'll state it in hex: 108. ;-)

Priscilla

   Somehow Priscilla, I
don't see you weighing that much.  For that matter, I doubt all the ladies
on
this list COMBINED would weigh that much!

(-:

(Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all petite, very
physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)

(Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't true, but
since
most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
imaginations
something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me looks like
to
most of them.).


   -- Leigh Anne

PS.  Oh a way off topic we will go!  A way off topic we will go!

Seasons greetings to all.


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At 06:09 PM 12/18/01, Gaz wrote:
 Always on the lookout for a quick profit:
 
 Yes:  I have a proper dress for CCIE lab.
 
 One is part used and a low fronted affair for greatest effect on the
 proctor, while the other is brand new open back with matching blue shoes.
 
 Give me a shout if you're anywhere around 6'3 and 120kg.

What's that in pounds? It might work, especially after the Christmas
season!? ;-) (though I'm not 6'3)

 We can do a deal.
 Doesn't paint a pretty picture does it? Not passed yet funnily enough.
 
 Regards,
 
 Gaz
 
 
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me
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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-19 Thread Mark Odette II

Ya know Chuck- It's only mid-week and Life could be a heck-of-a-lot better
for me personally right now...
... but trying to play catch-up on the 150+ messages posted in the last
couple of days, and I come across your response...

Thanks for the really good laugh.  Don't know why, but as soon as I read
your line... I just busted out something fierce.

Have a good evening.  Tomorrow's a new day. :)

Mark

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be sure to wear a trenchcoat, and walk in muttering there can be only one!

oops - wrong scene.

Chuck

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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-19 Thread Mark Odette II

Your killin' me over here in Texas Mr. Louie!

First Chuck, then you keep it comin'!!

:)

Mark
... who for some reason is suddenly finding strange slap-stick comedy out of
a e-mailing list- And NJoying it.

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I was amused by this thread and read most of the other responses.  I'd say
most of them were right on track (NOT).  But they were amusing.  I'll add to
the amusement.

If you wear a proper dress and you're a guy, you'd surely get the proctors'
attention.  Especially if you shave your legs.  You might even scare them
into passing you.

My experience - dress comfortably.  Be prepared for cold.  And warm.  Be
hygienic.  (for the real nerds out there, that means take a shower and brush
your teeth.  and try not to sweat/perspire too profusely)  I never did see a
sign in there that said no shoes, no shirt, no service (oops, is that an
NDA violation?)

Also, wearing a NerdGear t-shirt with subnets/masks and the Class A B C
definitions would probably NOT be recommended.  Although I've debated
wearing mine on Jan 15th, 2002 just for kicks.

However, all this is moot and conjecture until one
1)  passes their Written Exam
2)  schedules their Lab Exam.
3)  actually shows up for their Lab.

mirthfully,
-e-

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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Jim Brown

They also reduce the amount of oxygen in the lab to simulate networking at
high altitudes. The proctors stand over your shoulders and scream in your
ear just like a military boot camp. You aren't allowed to use the show run
command and must type everything exactly right the first time.

Seriously You can wear whatever you like. I've worn shorts with a
t-shirt and I've noticed candidates in sandals. Just be comfortable.

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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread John Neiberger

Do you know any network engineer who goes to work in a suit?  ;-)

No, you do not have to wear a suit.  Dress comfortably, but it won't
hurt to dress professionally as well. 

John

 Steven A. Ridder  12/18/01 3:00:15 PM 
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them
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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread MADMAN

I don;t remember wearing a suit but I was glad I brought a light
jacket since the lab was basically a little computer room, it was
cld!!!

  Dave

Steven A. Ridder wrote:
 
 Is it true that you have to be dressed in a suit for the CCIE lab?  Do them
 mark mannerisms, speech and dress?  I have some old Novell guys telling me
 horror stories of the Novel Instructor Program.
 
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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Curtis Phillips

Actually, it was a suit but is now even more formal. If you don't a tux rent
one.. Preferably one of them nice powder-blue jobs.. They seem to give
higher scores based on color coordination as well, so be sure your shoes and
socks are in line with the rest.
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From: Jim Brown 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]


 They also reduce the amount of oxygen in the lab to simulate networking at
 high altitudes. The proctors stand over your shoulders and scream in your
 ear just like a military boot camp. You aren't allowed to use the show run
 command and must type everything exactly right the first time.

 Seriously You can wear whatever you like. I've worn shorts with a
 t-shirt and I've noticed candidates in sandals. Just be comfortable.

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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them
 mark mannerisms, speech and dress?  I have some old Novell guys telling me
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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

If you wore a suit, they would know you weren't a real engineer and flunk 
you immediately! ;-) (Unless you were Vint Cerf.)

You compared it to the Novell instructor test, which is comparing oranges 
and apples. To become a Cisco instructor, your manners, speech, dress, etc. 
would be relevant. In that case business clothes would be expected, 
although not necessarily a suit in this day and age, I would guess.

Priscilla


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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Gaz

Always on the lookout for a quick profit:

Yes:  I have a proper dress for CCIE lab.

One is part used and a low fronted affair for greatest effect on the
proctor, while the other is brand new open back with matching blue shoes.

Give me a shout if you're anywhere around 6'3 and 120kg. We can do a deal.
Doesn't paint a pretty picture does it? Not passed yet funnily enough.

Regards,

Gaz


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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Bill Carter

I will give $5 to anyone who wears a Santa suit, stuffing and beard
included, to the lab in December and passes

Pictures required for verification!!

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They also reduce the amount of oxygen in the lab to simulate networking at
high altitudes. The proctors stand over your shoulders and scream in your
ear just like a military boot camp. You aren't allowed to use the show run
command and must type everything exactly right the first time.

Seriously You can wear whatever you like. I've worn shorts with a
t-shirt and I've noticed candidates in sandals. Just be comfortable.

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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Does the open back'd one top at the crest of the hips?

that's sure to get a good score!

 Gaz  12/18/01 06:09PM 
Always on the lookout for a quick profit:

Yes:  I have a proper dress for CCIE lab.

One is part used and a low fronted affair for greatest effect on the
proctor, while the other is brand new open back with matching blue shoes.

Give me a shout if you're anywhere around 6'3 and 120kg. We can do a deal.
Doesn't paint a pretty picture does it? Not passed yet funnily enough.

Regards,

Gaz


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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 06:09 PM 12/18/01, Gaz wrote:
Always on the lookout for a quick profit:

Yes:  I have a proper dress for CCIE lab.

One is part used and a low fronted affair for greatest effect on the
proctor, while the other is brand new open back with matching blue shoes.

Give me a shout if you're anywhere around 6'3 and 120kg.

What's that in pounds? It might work, especially after the Christmas 
season!? ;-) (though I'm not 6'3)

We can do a deal.
Doesn't paint a pretty picture does it? Not passed yet funnily enough.

Regards,

Gaz


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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

If you wore a suit, they would know you weren't a real engineer and flunk
you immediately! ;-) (Unless you were Vint Cerf.)

You compared it to the Novell instructor test, which is comparing oranges
and apples. To become a Cisco instructor, your manners, speech, dress, etc.
would be relevant. In that case business clothes would be expected,
although not necessarily a suit in this day and age, I would guess.

Priscilla

But do remember the elite corps of CSSI's qualified to teach in the 
Real New York, whose speech needs to include shut up and sit down.

How many bits are in the City of New York's prefix? Nunnaya bizness.



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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread juno vtv

Steve,

You have a couple of options. There have been some good advice on this list
about how to prepare for the CCIE lab clothing exam.

1)A good place to start is with the All-in-One suit.  This will get your
feet wet about what to expect.

2)Suiting for TCPIP vol1 is really good. Great for Internal Suiting
Protocols.

3)Khakis,Polos,Sweaters for CCIEs has had great review.  This one provides a
structured outline of the clothing lab.

4) And don't forget to have a rack of clothes to try on.  Either you can
rent rack time or build one yourself.  Many people opt to build their own.

5)Practice,Practice,Practice!!!  You need to make sure that you have
extensive hands on.  Doesn't mean you have to be Versace or anything, just
make sure that you know the basics cold. Things like color and texture will
play a key role in your exam.

Good luck!

-junovtv



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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Tom Lisa

To become a Netacad instructor at our college, you must dress slovenly,
slur your speach, and show utter disdain for your students.  When they
complain (especially after failing the BSCN practical exam) just say,
To Bad, So Sad!  (Bah, Humbug!) :) :)

Happy Holidays to All,

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

 If you wore a suit, they would know you weren't a real engineer and flunk
 you immediately! ;-) (Unless you were Vint Cerf.)

 You compared it to the Novell instructor test, which is comparing oranges
 and apples. To become a Cisco instructor, your manners, speech, dress, etc.
 would be relevant. In that case business clothes would be expected,
 although not necessarily a suit in this day and age, I would guess.

 Priscilla

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 Is it true that you have to be dressed in a suit for the CCIE lab?  Do
them
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 horror stories of the Novel Instructor Program.
 
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Re: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Router Man

Cisco culture does not require you to wear a suit to work.  I don't think
it would be fair for them to make no-employees pay money to play dress up.
But If you insist on wearing a suit, I would save it for the second attempt
:-)

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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Vint Cerf would probably fail for arguing with the proctor about proper
network design
something about how TCP/IP was never MEANT to do most of this stuff ;-

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If you wore a suit, they would know you weren't a real engineer and flunk
you immediately! ;-) (Unless you were Vint Cerf.)

You compared it to the Novell instructor test, which is comparing oranges
and apples. To become a Cisco instructor, your manners, speech, dress, etc.
would be relevant. In that case business clothes would be expected,
although not necessarily a suit in this day and age, I would guess.

Priscilla


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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Chuck Larrieu

be sure to wear a trenchcoat, and walk in muttering there can be only one!

oops - wrong scene.

Chuck

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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

1 kg = 2.2 lbs...  So you're talking about 264 lbs.  Somehow Priscilla, I
don't see you weighing that much.  For that matter, I doubt all the ladies on
this list COMBINED would weigh that much!

(-:

(Note to all the guys on this list:  The ladies here are all petite, very
physically fit, and are always dressed to kill!)

(Note to all the ladies on this list:  We know the above isn't true, but
since
most on the list don't know what we look like, why not give their
imaginations
something to work with.  Hmm... I wonder what the virtual me looks like to
most of them.).


  -- Leigh Anne

PS.  Oh a way off topic we will go!  A way off topic we will go!

Seasons greetings to all.


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At 06:09 PM 12/18/01, Gaz wrote:
Always on the lookout for a quick profit:

Yes:  I have a proper dress for CCIE lab.

One is part used and a low fronted affair for greatest effect on the
proctor, while the other is brand new open back with matching blue shoes.

Give me a shout if you're anywhere around 6'3 and 120kg.

What's that in pounds? It might work, especially after the Christmas
season!? ;-) (though I'm not 6'3)

We can do a deal.
Doesn't paint a pretty picture does it? Not passed yet funnily enough.

Regards,

Gaz


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RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

2001-12-18 Thread Circusnuts

With the one day lab time constraints, I was thinking of wearing a
diaper :o)

Phil

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Chuck Larrieu
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:52 PM
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Subject: RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]

Vint Cerf would probably fail for arguing with the proctor about proper
network design
something about how TCP/IP was never MEANT to do most of this stuff
;-

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Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]


If you wore a suit, they would know you weren't a real engineer and
flunk
you immediately! ;-) (Unless you were Vint Cerf.)

You compared it to the Novell instructor test, which is comparing
oranges
and apples. To become a Cisco instructor, your manners, speech, dress,
etc.
would be relevant. In that case business clothes would be expected,
although not necessarily a suit in this day and age, I would guess.

Priscilla


-Original Message-
From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:00 PM
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Subject: Proper dress for CCIE lab? [7:29524]


Is it true that you have to be dressed in a suit for the CCIE lab?  Do
them
mark mannerisms, speech and dress?  I have some old Novell guys telling
me
horror stories of the Novel Instructor Program.

Steve




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