Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
J B 5/29/03 8:39:15 AM >>> >Hi, Everyone >I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 Cisco routers. >The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the installation and my >employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco website for sample >configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the T1 channels >link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 years. Can >someone help me with some guidance to find some information in how to do that. > >Thanks >JBary Are your routers handling the voice traffic or are you simply splitting this off at the CSU/DSU so that the router only sees data traffic? John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69771&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
Need a lot more info than that, $5K might not be so bad after all, the phone company needs to make a living too:) Dave J B wrote: > Hi, Everyone > I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 Cisco routers. > The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the installation and my > employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco website for sample > configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the T1 channels > link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 years. Can > someone help me with some guidance to find some information in how to do that. > > Thanks > JBary -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69776&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
J B, If you're familiar with Cisco routers, WAN troubleshooting (probably T1 or Frame) and QoS intricasies, then $5,500 is way too much. You could set up the routers well within a single day, probably closer to 1/2 day. If you're not familiar with Cisco routers, especially QoS since quality problems may only arise under certain load conditions, then having an outside company do it correctly may very well be worth it. I suppose it all depends on how important uptime is to your company. If your company stands to lose money if voice calls can't go through or if reliability is an issue, pony up and pay the $5,500. If you're up to the challenge, poke around Cisco's site. There's not much detail on your environment, but you'll probably be interested in PPP interleaving, FRF.11 or 12, LLQ and the various classification techniques. Getting voice over your data circuit reliably requires that you look at the path end-to-end, so you might also be interested in looking at what layer 2 classification/prioritization is available on your switches. As far as IP connectivity, not much has changed in the last 2 years. Assign valid addresses, pick a routing protocol and whalla! That should be enough to get you started anyway. :) - Tom J B wrote: > Hi, Everyone > I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 Cisco routers. > The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the installation and my > employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco website for sample > configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the T1 channels > link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 years. Can > someone help me with some guidance to find some information in how to do that. > > Thanks > JBary Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69775&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
John Neiberger wrote: > > J B 5/29/03 8:39:15 AM >>> > >Hi, Everyone > >I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 > Cisco routers. > > >The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the > installation and my > >employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco > website for sample > >configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the > T1 channels > >link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 > years. Can > >someone help me with some guidance to find some information in > how to do > that. > > > >Thanks > >JBary > > Are your routers handling the voice traffic or are you simply > splitting this > off at the CSU/DSU so that the router only sees data traffic? > > John > > Splitting the line with external CSU/DSU's for each site Some channels for voice and the rest for data. I have the following equipment: 3725 (3) Qty 3700 Series, 2-Slot, Dual FE, Multiservice Access Router Cisco 3725 Series IOS IP/IPX/APPLETALK 2-Port Serial WAN Interface Card V.35 Cable, DTE Male to Smart Serial, 10 Feet 3745 (1) Qty 3700 Series, 4-Slot, Dual FE, Multiservice Access Router Cisco 3745 Series IOS IP/IPX/APPLETALK 4-Port Serial Network Module V.35 Cable, DTE, Male, 10 Feet Jb Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69780&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
J B wrote: > > John Neiberger wrote: > > > > J B 5/29/03 8:39:15 AM >>> > > >Hi, Everyone > > >I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 > > Cisco routers. > > > > >The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the > > installation and my > > >employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco > > website for sample > > >configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the > > T1 channels > > >link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 > > years. Can > > >someone help me with some guidance to find some information > in > > how to do > > that. > > > > > >Thanks > > >JBary > > > > Are your routers handling the voice traffic or are you simply > > splitting this > > off at the CSU/DSU so that the router only sees data traffic? > > > > John > > > > > > Splitting the line with external CSU/DSU's for each site > Some channels for voice and the rest for data. > > I have the following equipment: > > > 3725 (3) Qty > 3700 Series, 2-Slot, Dual FE, Multiservice Access Router > Cisco 3725 Series IOS IP/IPX/APPLETALK > 2-Port Serial WAN Interface Card > V.35 Cable, DTE Male to Smart Serial, 10 Feet > > 3745 (1) Qty > > 3700 Series, 4-Slot, Dual FE, Multiservice Access Router > Cisco 3745 Series IOS IP/IPX/APPLETALK > 4-Port Serial Network Module > V.35 Cable, DTE, Male, 10 Feet > > Jb > I just talk to my manager and he's telling me that no CSU/DSU's were ordered because this routers are suppose to be able to do everything. So, No external CSU's splitting of the line; all is suppose to be configure within the Cisco IOS. Thanks JB Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69785&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
hmm, let's not forget we're not routing just for the routing sake. There is much more then just setting up these few routers to make them talk to each other. What will be routed data wise, what type of connectivity, applications, topology, protocols, business requirements, etc, etc. If you understand all that, and have some prior Cisco experience you might be able to pull it off without sepending too much time on the project. But if not, and your skills are lacking (whether router or design) then $5500 might be the way to go. Unless of course that fee doesn't cover the planning/investigaiton/design steps then you might be better off spending time on it yourself and re-learning/refreshing your skills. How much is your day's work actually worth ? :-) Add it all up and see what's better for you or your employer :-) ""J B"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi, Everyone > I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 Cisco routers. > The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the installation and my > employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco website for sample > configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the T1 channels > link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 years. Can > someone help me with some guidance to find some information in how to do that. > > Thanks > JBary Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69791&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
Call qwest and you'll get Dave out there...:) Larry Letterman Cisco Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MADMAN Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765] Need a lot more info than that, $5K might not be so bad after all, the phone company needs to make a living too:) Dave J B wrote: > Hi, Everyone > I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 Cisco > routers. > The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the installation and my > employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco website for sample > configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the T1 channels > link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 years. Can > someone help me with some guidance to find some information in how to do that. > > Thanks > JBary -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69796&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
Thanks, now how much of a cut do you want Larry!! Dave Larry Letterman wrote: > Call qwest and you'll get Dave out there...:) > > > Larry Letterman > Cisco Systems > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > MADMAN > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765] > > > Need a lot more info than that, $5K might not be so bad after all, > the phone company needs to make a living too:) > >Dave > > J B wrote: > >>Hi, Everyone >>I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 Cisco >>routers. >>The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the installation and > > my > >>employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco website for > > sample > >>configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the T1 > > channels > >>link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 years. Can >>someone help me with some guidance to find some information in how to > > do > that. > >>Thanks >>JBary > -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69822&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
Thanks Henry, That's exactly what I want to do. If I stopped doing Cisco is because my job didn't required hands on. I want to re-learn the skills and technology; that is the only way to get back in track. Believe I would tell my manager to let the phone company do the job, but if I do that tha'll be the end of my cisco career within this company. I prefer to die trying than to quit without a fight. Thanks JB Henry D. wrote: > > hmm, let's not forget we're not routing just for the routing > sake. There is > much > more then just setting up these few routers to make them talk > to each other. > What will be routed data wise, what type of connectivity, > applications, > topology, protocols, business requirements, etc, etc. > If you understand all that, and have some prior Cisco > experience you might > be able to pull > it off without sepending too much time on the project. But if > not, and your > skills > are lacking (whether router or design) then $5500 might be the > way to go. > Unless > of course that fee doesn't cover the > planning/investigaiton/design steps > then you might > be better off spending time on it yourself and > re-learning/refreshing your > skills. > > How much is your day's work actually worth ? :-) Add it all up > and see > what's better for you > or your employer :-) > > > > ""J B"" wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi, Everyone > > I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 > Cisco routers. > > The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the > installation and my > > employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco > website for sample > > configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the > T1 channels > > link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 > years. Can > > someone help me with some guidance to find some information > in how to do > that. > > > > Thanks > > JBary > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69829&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
None... Just be available when I need help...:) Larry Letterman Cisco Systems -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:05 PM To: Larry Letterman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765] Thanks, now how much of a cut do you want Larry!! Dave Larry Letterman wrote: > Call qwest and you'll get Dave out there...:) > > > Larry Letterman > Cisco Systems > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of MADMAN > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765] > > > Need a lot more info than that, $5K might not be so bad after all, > the phone company needs to make a living too:) > >Dave > > J B wrote: > >>Hi, Everyone >>I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 Cisco >>routers. >>The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the installation and > > my > >>employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco website for > > sample > >>configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the T1 > > channels > >>link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 years. Can >>someone help me with some guidance to find some information in how to > > do > that. > >>Thanks >>JBary > -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69838&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
J B 5/29/03 8:39:15 AM >>> >Hi, Everyone >I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 Cisco routers. >The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the installation and my >employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco website for sample >configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the T1 channels >link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 years. Can >someone help me with some guidance to find some information in how to do that. > >Thanks >JBary Are your routers handling the voice traffic or are you simply splitting this off at the CSU/DSU so that the router only sees data traffic? John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69981&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
Need a lot more info than that, $5K might not be so bad after all, the phone company needs to make a living too:) Dave J B wrote: > Hi, Everyone > I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 Cisco routers. > The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the installation and my > employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco website for sample > configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the T1 channels > link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 years. Can > someone help me with some guidance to find some information in how to do that. > > Thanks > JBary -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69980&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
Thanks for all your help! JB thartman wrote: > > Just by looking at your BOM (Bill of Materials) you will not be > able to > connect to the Telco circuit without an External CSU/DSU. The > serial > interfaces require this. If you would have purchased the > VWIC-MFT-T1 then > you would be able to handle the both the voice and data > internal to the box. > > Layer 1 - nothing else works without out it > > tlh > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of J B > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765] > > J B wrote: > > > > John Neiberger wrote: > > > > > > >>>> J B 5/29/03 8:39:15 AM >>> > > > >Hi, Everyone > > > >I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 > > > Cisco routers. > > > > > > >The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the > > > installation and my > > > >employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco > > > website for sample > > > >configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share > the > > > T1 channels > > > >link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 > > > years. Can > > > >someone help me with some guidance to find some information > > in > > > how to do > > > that. > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > >JBary > > > > > > Are your routers handling the voice traffic or are you > simply > > > splitting this > > > off at the CSU/DSU so that the router only sees data > traffic? > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > Splitting the line with external CSU/DSU's for each site > > Some channels for voice and the rest for data. > > > > I have the following equipment: > > > > > > 3725 (3) Qty > > 3700 Series, 2-Slot, Dual FE, Multiservice Access Router > > Cisco 3725 Series IOS IP/IPX/APPLETALK > > 2-Port Serial WAN Interface Card > > V.35 Cable, DTE Male to Smart Serial, 10 Feet > > > > 3745 (1) Qty > > > > 3700 Series, 4-Slot, Dual FE, Multiservice Access Router > > Cisco 3745 Series IOS IP/IPX/APPLETALK > > 4-Port Serial Network Module > > V.35 Cable, DTE, Male, 10 Feet > > > > Jb > > > I just talk to my manager and he's telling me that no CSU/DSU's > were ordered > because this routers are suppose to be able to do everything. > > So, No external CSU's splitting of the line; all is suppose to > be configure > within the Cisco IOS. > Thanks > JB > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=70908&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765]
Just by looking at your BOM (Bill of Materials) you will not be able to connect to the Telco circuit without an External CSU/DSU. The serial interfaces require this. If you would have purchased the VWIC-MFT-T1 then you would be able to handle the both the voice and data internal to the box. Layer 1 - nothing else works without out it tlh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J B Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help with Cisco 3745 configuration [7:69765] J B wrote: > > John Neiberger wrote: > > > > >>>> J B 5/29/03 8:39:15 AM >>> > > >Hi, Everyone > > >I just been awarded the responsibility of installing 4 3745 > > Cisco routers. > > > > >The local phone company wanted $5500 dollars for the > > installation and my > > >employer thinks is to much. I was looking at the Cisco > > website for sample > > >configurations but I couldn't find them. I need to share the > > T1 channels > > >link for voice and data. I haven't done Cisco for like 2 > > years. Can > > >someone help me with some guidance to find some information > in > > how to do > > that. > > > > > >Thanks > > >JBary > > > > Are your routers handling the voice traffic or are you simply > > splitting this > > off at the CSU/DSU so that the router only sees data traffic? > > > > John > > > > > > Splitting the line with external CSU/DSU's for each site > Some channels for voice and the rest for data. > > I have the following equipment: > > > 3725 (3) Qty > 3700 Series, 2-Slot, Dual FE, Multiservice Access Router > Cisco 3725 Series IOS IP/IPX/APPLETALK > 2-Port Serial WAN Interface Card > V.35 Cable, DTE Male to Smart Serial, 10 Feet > > 3745 (1) Qty > > 3700 Series, 4-Slot, Dual FE, Multiservice Access Router > Cisco 3745 Series IOS IP/IPX/APPLETALK > 4-Port Serial Network Module > V.35 Cable, DTE, Male, 10 Feet > > Jb > I just talk to my manager and he's telling me that no CSU/DSU's were ordered because this routers are suppose to be able to do everything. So, No external CSU's splitting of the line; all is suppose to be configure within the Cisco IOS. Thanks JB Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=70907&t=69765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
