Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
So to answer your original question, yes! So what do you have to study. Well you might want to know how to set up simple label switching. This includes P and PE. You might also want to setup VPNs using OSPF and IS-IS as the transit IGP. You might also want to set it up using MP-BGP. Also play with label stacking. You will want to setup both frame mode and cell mode and inter-mix the two. You might try MPLS-TE over OSPF and IS-IS single and multi-area. You might want to also play around with LSP leaking into the IGP. This will change you IGP database and create short cuts. I do not think you will see any Layer 2 MPLS technologies, since the web page says 12.1 or lower code. So no EoMPLS or AToM or QinQ. Since the CS covers QOS/Multicast/MPLS/Advanced BGP and IS-IS and other topics, I would think it represents a fairly current offering from most Service Providers today. The RS should have MPLS, although the most Enterprises are not deploying MPLS like SPs are. Are they a slowly adopting it! As far as the Juniper exam. If you look at which is recognized by the people that hire us poor engineers, most now know what a CCIE is, hm, not sure about JNCIE or whatever it is! Also, how many non-SP companies have Juniper in their networks-very few! Regards, Dan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39122t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
um...I work with Optical/voice/cable/dsl.. I didn't know about this cert but it sounds pretty good. I'm concentrating on the R/S right now because I believe that it is a good foundation to expand from. I work for a Cable/Telephone/Broadband Internet company that offers all 3 services over a single coax to your residence. We also have a large fiber ring around Kansas City that we light via ONS 15454's. Offer traditional TDM services and some metro ethernet. We also own a sister company that my group is responsible for that delivers the converged services via VDSL. I moved into this environment from an enterprise environment and I'm having a blast. Everything is new and exciting with technology galore to learn. The point of this post was to say that there are some of us out there that would be a good fit for the CCIE C/S. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36963t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
Uh, Are you sure? Take a look at the C/S lab requirements. Not the written requirements, but the lab requirements. Notice how the lab has practically nothing to do with the written(s). Part of the great confusion over the C/S program is the fact that it has 8 possible writtens (each one concentrating on one particular provider technology - like you mentioned: optical, dial, DSL, etc.). But then the lab has nothing to do with any of those technologies, and concentrates on those niche provider applications that I mentioned before. No matter whether you passed the written for optical, or the written for dial, or whatever, you still end up taking the same C/S lab as everybody else, which by the way has nothing to do with optical, or dial, or whatever you did. This stands as a far cry from, say, R/S or the Security CCIE program, where the written actually is tied fairly closely to the lab. Again, this further adds to the confusion and muddling of the program. By becoming a fully-fledged C/S CCIE, you have not demonstrated hands-on competence in the ONS series, or the Stratacom stuff, or the Cisco DSL stuff, or whatever. You have demonstrated only book knowledge. Like I said, if you don't believe this, take a look at the lab requirements carefully. travis marlow wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; um...I work with Optical/voice/cable/dsl.. I didn't know about this cert but it sounds pretty good. I'm concentrating on the R/S right now because I believe that it is a good foundation to expand from. I work for a Cable/Telephone/Broadband Internet company that offers all 3 services over a single coax to your residence. We also have a large fiber ring around Kansas City that we light via ONS 15454's. Offer traditional TDM services and some metro ethernet. We also own a sister company that my group is responsible for that delivers the converged services via VDSL. I moved into this environment from an enterprise environment and I'm having a blast. Everything is new and exciting with technology galore to learn. The point of this post was to say that there are some of us out there that would be a good fit for the CCIE C/S. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36983t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
Tis a shame too. I ran a Vines network for about 8 years and have yet to find a better protocol. - Original Message - From: ko haag To: Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:14 AM Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] Same here, alot of my customers are still running most of these protocols and the only I have not seen in a while is Vines (to bad too, it was Better than Microsuck...sorry i meant soft.) :-P. David C Prall wrote: Steven, I don't know if it is outdated or not. I still have customers running Vines, DecNet, IPX and AppleTalk. Of course chaos, apollo and pup I haven't seen recently in the real world. David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com - Original Message - From: Steven A. Ridder To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] For routing and switching - none. Is it me or is the RS track getting outdated? It seems to cover technologies that, although are useful, not as current. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Persio Pucci wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; How much of MPLS (if some at all) is covered in the CCIE exams? tks! Persio Pucci - CCNP UOL Inc. - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36791t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
I looked on Cisco and I can't figure out which CCIE the C/S CCIE falls under. Which one is that? -- RFC 1149 Compliant nrf wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; You say you want to study more recent technologies? Simple answer - the Juniper JNCIE. Or possibly the C/S CCIE, but the fact that that exam has only been successful passed by one person (the proctor in Halifax), perhaps it's not such a good idea. Steven A. Ridder wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; I saw a network recently with DECNet, but you've got to admit, they're few and far between. I've done a 100:1 ratio of wireless networks, vpn, firewalls, etc,. as compared to a DECnet or Banyan Vines network (in fact, I've never seen a banyan vines network except in my old college library). Even IPX is going away (excpet for the diehard Microsoft haters). I don't know about you, but I'd like some more recent topics to be covered on the exam because I feel like I'm studying irrelvant stuff sometimes. I feel like I'm wasting my brain on some stuff. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. David C Prall wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steven, I don't know if it is outdated or not. I still have customers running Vines, DecNet, IPX and AppleTalk. Of course chaos, apollo and pup I haven't seen recently in the real world. David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com - Original Message - From: Steven A. Ridder To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] For routing and switching - none. Is it me or is the RS track getting outdated? It seems to cover technologies that, although are useful, not as current. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Persio Pucci wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; How much of MPLS (if some at all) is covered in the CCIE exams? tks! Persio Pucci - CCNP UOL Inc. - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36796t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
Here u go. CCIE Communications Services http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/services.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36809t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
That C/S cert seems to be the way to go! That's what I'd go for, but since only one person has ever passed it, I think it may be safe to say that I'd never get a CCIE number that way. I may go for that cert once I get my R/S CCIE done. What makes that test so hard? And has anyone heard anything about a CCIE in voice technologies coming out? -- RFC 1149 Compliant Nilesh Pujari wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Here u go. CCIE Communications Services http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/services.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36813t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
I suppose the philosophical question is whether the CCIE a forward looking or backward looking cert? I am under the impression that Cisco originally geared the test around what a significant number of Cisco large customers were running. I'm sure there are still Vines networks around. I'm not sure if PGE, for example, ever got around to migrating away from Vines. Let alone Nature's Conservancy. Hell, there might even be a few XNS networks out there somewhere. Especially now that the Lab format is one day, Cisco can't test for everything. They have to focus. So it becomes a matter of what's important. Sooner or later ( and this will be bad news for most of us ) Cisco is also going to have to migrate the Lab pods to more current equipment. Either that or tacitly admit that a lot of the high end solutions they hawk are really not all that important. Another tack they might take is to create CCIE tracks for every specialty that comes along - voice, WAN, QoS, wireless, VPN, etc. But I'm not sure I agree that just because there are people out there running obsolete technologies, that the CCIE Lab should test those technologies. IBM now runs Linux on some of their mainframe products. Token ring and DLSw are dying. The future is IP. Sure the legacy stuff will hang on for a while yet. But seeing as CCIE skills are as much a marketing strategy for Cisco as a resource for customers, I would think that older technologies will have to yield their place in the lab for the new stuff that Cisco counts on for future revenue. Just my couple of cents. Chuck David C Prall wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steven, I don't know if it is outdated or not. I still have customers running Vines, DecNet, IPX and AppleTalk. Of course chaos, apollo and pup I haven't seen recently in the real world. David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com - Original Message - From: Steven A. Ridder To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] For routing and switching - none. Is it me or is the RS track getting outdated? It seems to cover technologies that, although are useful, not as current. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Persio Pucci wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; How much of MPLS (if some at all) is covered in the CCIE exams? tks! Persio Pucci - CCNP UOL Inc. - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36819t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
Well no, I would actually argue that right now the Juniper JNCIE is the better way to go, for a number of reasons. Yeah yeah, I know I'm going to get flamed for that (and already had been, on previous occasions when I said this). But the fact is, not only is the JNCIE program is testing on the more recent technologies that you said you wanted to look into, but again, the fact that the C/S program is highly muddled and confused (they keep changing the focus of that exam, I can't tell you much more due to NDA), and the fact that the test grading procedure has been, suffice it to say, rather controversial - I'll just leave it at that. The point is that because of these factors, the C/S has so far gained essentially no traction and recognition within the service-provider market it supposedly caters to. I've noticed that providers will either have no idea what the C/S progam is and just assume you're talking about the R/S, or they do know, and therefore know how confused the program is. Steven A Ridder wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; That C/S cert seems to be the way to go! That's what I'd go for, but since only one person has ever passed it, I think it may be safe to say that I'd never get a CCIE number that way. I may go for that cert once I get my R/S CCIE done. What makes that test so hard? And has anyone heard anything about a CCIE in voice technologies coming out? -- RFC 1149 Compliant Nilesh Pujari wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Here u go. CCIE Communications Services http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/services.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36836t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
Where did you get you're information regarding only one person passing the C/S CCIE? I registered for the lab back in December and was told there were already 6 people who had passed... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A Ridder Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] That C/S cert seems to be the way to go! That's what I'd go for, but since only one person has ever passed it, I think it may be safe to say that I'd never get a CCIE number that way. I may go for that cert once I get my R/S CCIE done. What makes that test so hard? And has anyone heard anything about a CCIE in voice technologies coming out? -- RFC 1149 Compliant Nilesh Pujari wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Here u go. CCIE Communications Services http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/services.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36854t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
Even 6 is a very, very low number compared to R/S? I have always wondered what kind of individuals got this cert? I mean, obviously it is not possible to do it on your own(financially...probably need to have an optical/dsl/cbl/voice etc. equipment at home). Also, what would it's worth be in the real world? I mean how many people out there actually work in a optical/voice/dsl/cable environment in the same company? Just my $0.2 From: Michael Cohen Reply-To: Michael Cohen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:11:48 -0500 Where did you get you're information regarding only one person passing the C/S CCIE? I registered for the lab back in December and was told there were already 6 people who had passed... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A Ridder Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] That C/S cert seems to be the way to go! That's what I'd go for, but since only one person has ever passed it, I think it may be safe to say that I'd never get a CCIE number that way. I may go for that cert once I get my R/S CCIE done. What makes that test so hard? And has anyone heard anything about a CCIE in voice technologies coming out? -- RFC 1149 Compliant Nilesh Pujari wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Here u go. CCIE Communications Services http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/services.html _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36905t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
You are correct to say that at this time, the demand for C/S guys is very low (essentially non-existent), for 3 main reasons, I believe. #1, the service-provider job market right now is total crap. #2 - to compound that problem the technologies that exam is based on are truly bleeding edge even for the service-provider such that there isn't exactly a groundswell demand for those particular skills. So we're talking about a particularly bad segment of a particularly bad job market. And of course #3 - Cisco hasn't exactly done the best job in marketing the C/S. Seriously I can find very few people who know what it is, even people working in the service-provider space. Cisco Nuts wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Even 6 is a very, very low number compared to R/S? I have always wondered what kind of individuals got this cert? I mean, obviously it is not possible to do it on your own(financially...probably need to have an optical/dsl/cbl/voice etc. equipment at home). Also, what would it's worth be in the real world? I mean how many people out there actually work in a optical/voice/dsl/cable environment in the same company? Just my $0.2 From: Michael Cohen Reply-To: Michael Cohen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:11:48 -0500 Where did you get you're information regarding only one person passing the C/S CCIE? I registered for the lab back in December and was told there were already 6 people who had passed... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A Ridder Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] That C/S cert seems to be the way to go! That's what I'd go for, but since only one person has ever passed it, I think it may be safe to say that I'd never get a CCIE number that way. I may go for that cert once I get my R/S CCIE done. What makes that test so hard? And has anyone heard anything about a CCIE in voice technologies coming out? -- RFC 1149 Compliant Nilesh Pujari wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Here u go. CCIE Communications Services http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/services.html _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36907t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
For routing and switching - none. Is it me or is the RS track getting outdated? It seems to cover technologies that, although are useful, not as current. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Persio Pucci wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... How much of MPLS (if some at all) is covered in the CCIE exams? tks! Persio Pucci - CCNP UOL Inc. - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36699t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
Steven, I don't know if it is outdated or not. I still have customers running Vines, DecNet, IPX and AppleTalk. Of course chaos, apollo and pup I haven't seen recently in the real world. David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com - Original Message - From: Steven A. Ridder To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] For routing and switching - none. Is it me or is the RS track getting outdated? It seems to cover technologies that, although are useful, not as current. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Persio Pucci wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... How much of MPLS (if some at all) is covered in the CCIE exams? tks! Persio Pucci - CCNP UOL Inc. - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36714t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
I agree with you. However, they are required only in the written exam. A lot of them (i.e. DECnet, VINES and even X.25 and Appletalk) were removed from the lab and are still only inthe written. Cisco seems to be recycling their certifications, or at least CCNP for now (as seen at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/beta_exams.h tm). Maybe we can expect a new recycle at the CCIE program? Persio - Original Message - From: Steven A. Ridder To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] For routing and switching - none. Is it me or is the RS track getting outdated? It seems to cover technologies that, although are useful, not as current. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Persio Pucci wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... How much of MPLS (if some at all) is covered in the CCIE exams? tks! Persio Pucci - CCNP UOL Inc. - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36718t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
I saw a network recently with DECNet, but you've got to admit, they're few and far between. I've done a 100:1 ratio of wireless networks, vpn, firewalls, etc,. as compared to a DECnet or Banyan Vines network (in fact, I've never seen a banyan vines network except in my old college library). Even IPX is going away (excpet for the diehard Microsoft haters). I don't know about you, but I'd like some more recent topics to be covered on the exam because I feel like I'm studying irrelvant stuff sometimes. I feel like I'm wasting my brain on some stuff. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. David C Prall wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Steven, I don't know if it is outdated or not. I still have customers running Vines, DecNet, IPX and AppleTalk. Of course chaos, apollo and pup I haven't seen recently in the real world. David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com - Original Message - From: Steven A. Ridder To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] For routing and switching - none. Is it me or is the RS track getting outdated? It seems to cover technologies that, although are useful, not as current. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Persio Pucci wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... How much of MPLS (if some at all) is covered in the CCIE exams? tks! Persio Pucci - CCNP UOL Inc. - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36723t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
Same here, alot of my customers are still running most of these protocols and the only I have not seen in a while is Vines (to bad too, it was Better than Microsuck...sorry i meant soft.) :-P. David C Prall wrote: Steven, I don't know if it is outdated or not. I still have customers running Vines, DecNet, IPX and AppleTalk. Of course chaos, apollo and pup I haven't seen recently in the real world. David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com - Original Message - From: Steven A. Ridder To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] For routing and switching - none. Is it me or is the RS track getting outdated? It seems to cover technologies that, although are useful, not as current. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Persio Pucci wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; How much of MPLS (if some at all) is covered in the CCIE exams? tks! Persio Pucci - CCNP UOL Inc. - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36773t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]
You say you want to study more recent technologies? Simple answer - the Juniper JNCIE. Or possibly the C/S CCIE, but the fact that that exam has only been successful passed by one person (the proctor in Halifax), perhaps it's not such a good idea. Steven A. Ridder wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; I saw a network recently with DECNet, but you've got to admit, they're few and far between. I've done a 100:1 ratio of wireless networks, vpn, firewalls, etc,. as compared to a DECnet or Banyan Vines network (in fact, I've never seen a banyan vines network except in my old college library). Even IPX is going away (excpet for the diehard Microsoft haters). I don't know about you, but I'd like some more recent topics to be covered on the exam because I feel like I'm studying irrelvant stuff sometimes. I feel like I'm wasting my brain on some stuff. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. David C Prall wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steven, I don't know if it is outdated or not. I still have customers running Vines, DecNet, IPX and AppleTalk. Of course chaos, apollo and pup I haven't seen recently in the real world. David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com - Original Message - From: Steven A. Ridder To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682] For routing and switching - none. Is it me or is the RS track getting outdated? It seems to cover technologies that, although are useful, not as current. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Persio Pucci wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; How much of MPLS (if some at all) is covered in the CCIE exams? tks! Persio Pucci - CCNP UOL Inc. - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36779t=36682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
