Re: Ping latency [7:50018]

2002-07-31 Thread DW

Thanks for the replies. Priscilla I tried the ping into both of the networks
in question and have recieved the same results. As an aside, is there an
acceptable level of variance in the results of a ping and what are the side
effects of such a large dicrepancy in the ping response times.
I have run the test on other configured neworks and they all show consistent
ping response times of up to 32ms, but nothing like what is happening for
this one client.


DW  wrote in message
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 I am running 2 WAN links through the same router and have been have
session
 disconnect problems recently. I have been running several ping tests
across
 both of the links (128K FR and 512K Leased line) and they are both showing
 response times fluctuating from 30ms to 1400ms (No dropped packets). I
 believe this is the root of the problem. What could be causing this delay
 through the router ??? The memory and processor usage looks to be within
 tolerable limits. I am also assuming this kind of delay is not normal,
would
 I be right ??

 All answers appreciated !




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Re: Ping latency [7:50018]

2002-07-31 Thread sam sneed

It might be time to break out the sniffer. Have a host copy a file over the
network across the link and look at the general response times it each
packet takes on the acknowledements. Do a variety of tests in this manner.
if you could run netperf, a freeware, across the link that'd be good.

DW  wrote in message
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 Thanks for the replies. Priscilla I tried the ping into both of the
networks
 in question and have recieved the same results. As an aside, is there an
 acceptable level of variance in the results of a ping and what are the
side
 effects of such a large dicrepancy in the ping response times.
 I have run the test on other configured neworks and they all show
consistent
 ping response times of up to 32ms, but nothing like what is happening for
 this one client.


 DW  wrote in message
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  I am running 2 WAN links through the same router and have been have
 session
  disconnect problems recently. I have been running several ping tests
 across
  both of the links (128K FR and 512K Leased line) and they are both
showing
  response times fluctuating from 30ms to 1400ms (No dropped packets). I
  believe this is the root of the problem. What could be causing this
delay
  through the router ??? The memory and processor usage looks to be within
  tolerable limits. I am also assuming this kind of delay is not normal,
 would
  I be right ??
 
  All answers appreciated !




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Re: Ping latency [7:50018]

2002-07-31 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

DW wrote:
 
 Thanks for the replies. Priscilla I tried the ping into both of
 the networks
 in question and have recieved the same results. As an aside, is
 there an
 acceptable level of variance in the results of a ping and what
 are the side

I can't quote an exact number for an acceptable level of variance, but the
variance you are seeing doesn't look good. Also I think you said users are
complaining of disconnects. Once you have lots of user complaints, then, in
general, you're past the acceptable level of variance.

Have you tried Trace Route? It might indicate a routing loop problem. Once
again, trace route into the network. Don't trace route to the router. (IOS
rate limits ICMP TTL Exceeded messages, so you don't get a good idea of the
actual delay.)

What is the reliability of these two links? Is it a lot less than 255/255?
Have there been a lot of CRC errors? The fact that both links are affected
points to any component that they both share. Buliding wiring to the POP?
Wiring to the service provider?

On the Frame Relay link, are there lots of FECNS, BECNS, DEs? Are you
exceeding your CIR?

Have you tried some other tests besides Ping? Do you have a protocol
analyzer that would let you look at some packets when you do some more
advanced testing?

Finally, have you involved the service provider? I think you should get them
to run some tests.

Priscilla

 effects of such a large dicrepancy in the ping response times.
 I have run the test on other configured neworks and they all
 show consistent
 ping response times of up to 32ms, but nothing like what is
 happening for
 this one client.
 
 
 DW  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I am running 2 WAN links through the same router and have
 been have
 session
  disconnect problems recently. I have been running several
 ping tests
 across
  both of the links (128K FR and 512K Leased line) and they are
 both showing
  response times fluctuating from 30ms to 1400ms (No dropped
 packets). I
  believe this is the root of the problem. What could be
 causing this delay
  through the router ??? The memory and processor usage looks
 to be within
  tolerable limits. I am also assuming this kind of delay is
 not normal,
 would
  I be right ??
 
  All answers appreciated !
 
 




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Re: Ping latency [7:50018]

2002-07-30 Thread DW

The devices are both 2610's. I am telnetting to one of the 2610's and
pinging the serial interface / Frame Relay subinterface on the directly
connected devices (Not pinging into the network). The leased line is running
PPP. What is strange is that it is the same result across both links. The
Min/Max/Avg times fluctuate constantly with one being as bad as
40ms/560ms/75ms.



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 What type of device?
 What layer 2 protocol?  PPP or HDLC?
 What is the source and destination of the ping?
 DW  wrote in message
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  I am running 2 WAN links through the same router and have been have
 session
  disconnect problems recently. I have been running several ping tests
 across
  both of the links (128K FR and 512K Leased line) and they are both
showing
  response times fluctuating from 30ms to 1400ms (No dropped packets). I
  believe this is the root of the problem. What could be causing this
delay
  through the router ??? The memory and processor usage looks to be within
  tolerable limits. I am also assuming this kind of delay is not normal,
 would
  I be right ??
 
  All answers appreciated !




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Re: Ping latency [7:50018]

2002-07-30 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Try pinging into the network. I wouldn't trust the results of pinging the
router's own serial interface. Routers have more important things to do than
respond to pings. I can't say for sure (better read that IOS Architecture
book!), but I think the IOS responds to pings at a low priority. Try pinging
a PC on the other side of the router instead.

Priscilla

DW wrote:
 
 The devices are both 2610's. I am telnetting to one of the
 2610's and
 pinging the serial interface / Frame Relay subinterface on the
 directly
 connected devices (Not pinging into the network). The leased
 line is running
 PPP. What is strange is that it is the same result across both
 links. The
 Min/Max/Avg times fluctuate constantly with one being as bad as
 40ms/560ms/75ms.
 
 
 
 Robert D. Cluett  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  What type of device?
  What layer 2 protocol?  PPP or HDLC?
  What is the source and destination of the ping?
  DW  wrote in message
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   I am running 2 WAN links through the same router and have
 been have
  session
   disconnect problems recently. I have been running several
 ping tests
  across
   both of the links (128K FR and 512K Leased line) and they
 are both
 showing
   response times fluctuating from 30ms to 1400ms (No dropped
 packets). I
   believe this is the root of the problem. What could be
 causing this
 delay
   through the router ??? The memory and processor usage looks
 to be within
   tolerable limits. I am also assuming this kind of delay is
 not normal,
  would
   I be right ??
  
   All answers appreciated !
 
 




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Re: Ping latency [7:50018]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

What type of device?
What layer 2 protocol?  PPP or HDLC?
What is the source and destination of the ping?
DW  wrote in message
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 I am running 2 WAN links through the same router and have been have
session
 disconnect problems recently. I have been running several ping tests
across
 both of the links (128K FR and 512K Leased line) and they are both showing
 response times fluctuating from 30ms to 1400ms (No dropped packets). I
 believe this is the root of the problem. What could be causing this delay
 through the router ??? The memory and processor usage looks to be within
 tolerable limits. I am also assuming this kind of delay is not normal,
would
 I be right ??

 All answers appreciated !




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RE: Ping latency [7:50018]

2002-07-29 Thread Walker, James - Is

Are you pinging a directly connected interface or something deeper into the
network???




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Subject: Ping latency [7:50018]


I am running 2 WAN links through the same router and have been have session
disconnect problems recently. I have been running several ping tests across
both of the links (128K FR and 512K Leased line) and they are both showing
response times fluctuating from 30ms to 1400ms (No dropped packets). I
believe this is the root of the problem. What could be causing this delay
through the router ??? The memory and processor usage looks to be within
tolerable limits. I am also assuming this kind of delay is not normal, would
I be right ??

All answers appreciated !




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