Re: T1 Csu dsu issue(commands) [7:62445]

2003-02-05 Thread MADMAN
The documentation is not very accurate on this as you have 
discovered.Thanks for pointing this out, I am beta testing a version 
2 of the WIC-1DSU-T1 and it is not optional, I will pass this on.

   Aside from testing though I have never needed to change the default 
in the real world.  The defaults let you loop the CSU with a standard 
issue T-BERD.

   Dave

Simmi Singh wrote:
> I have 1 Port T1 CSU/DSU WAN Interface Card, 
> some more problems I am facing are 
> 1) when I am trying to give 
> service-module t1 remote-loopback payload command with out any optional
> parameter it does not work and gives that incomplete command error.where as
> the V54 is optional parameter
> 
> 2) this combination of command also does not work and gives format error. 
> service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 
> 
> this both v54 and alternate are optional parameters as mentioned in the
> documentation.
> 
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_command_reference_chapter09186a00800874e6.html#1019309
> 
> Please refer this link that these are optional parameters(v54 and
> alternate).
> In my knowledge there could be 4 possible combinations but only two work 
> 
> full 
> full with alternate(doesnot work) 
> payload(doesnot work) 
> payload with v54 
> 
> Can anybody explain these also in additional to the previous doubts
> mentioned below
> --- 
> 
> 
> Simmi Singh wrote: 
> 
>>Hi all, 
>>while configuring the T1 CSU DSU card we use service-module 
>>commands. 
>>Here when I have the following command 
>>service-module t1 remote-loopback {full | payload} [alternate | 
>>v54] 
>>The default option is Full and payload loopbacks with 
>>standard-loopup codes. and its mentioned in documentation also 
>>that by entering the service-module t1 remote-loopback command 
>>without specifying any keywords, you enable the standard-loopup 
>>codes, which use a 1-in-5 pattern for loopup and a 1-in-3 
>>pattern for loopdown. 
>>
>>
>>The calrifications needed are that 
>>1) What is thedefault option for loopback.If I select the full option from
> 
> the cli then want to switch
> 
>>back to the default option, do the above command without 
>>parameters will do that function 
>>example 
>>service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 
>>
>>
>>then if i want to switch to default option will this work 
>>
>>service-module t1 remote-loopback 
>>
>>But I tried this command doesnot work(incomplete command) 
>>so how to enable both payload and alternate with standard 
>>loopup codes. 
>>Just by negating the earlier command 
>>is their some command for this 
>>
>>2) For what this default option used for 
>>
>>any help will be appreciated 
-- 
David Madland
CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston
Churchill




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Re: T1 Csu dsu issue(commands) [7:62445]

2003-02-05 Thread Simmi Singh
Hi Dave
Thanx replying
is this in version 2 of  WIC-1DSU-T1 these commands work fine or what I
could not get u.
May be somebody else who has worked on WIC-1DSU-T1,please do send your
valuable comments if u have any.



MADMAN wrote:
> 
> The documentation is not very accurate on this as you have 
> discovered.Thanks for pointing this out, I am beta testing
> a version
> 2 of the WIC-1DSU-T1 and it is not optional, I will pass this
> on.
> 
>Aside from testing though I have never needed to change the
> default
> in the real world.  The defaults let you loop the CSU with a
> standard
> issue T-BERD.
> 
>Dave
> 
> Simmi Singh wrote:
> > I have 1 Port T1 CSU/DSU WAN Interface Card, 
> > some more problems I am facing are 
> > 1) when I am trying to give 
> > service-module t1 remote-loopback payload command with out
> any optional
> > parameter it does not work and gives that incomplete command
> error.where as
> > the V54 is optional parameter
> > 
> > 2) this combination of command also does not work and gives
> format error.
> > service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 
> > 
> > this both v54 and alternate are optional parameters as
> mentioned in the
> > documentation.
> > 
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_command_reference_chapter09186a00800874e6.html#1019309
> > 
> > Please refer this link that these are optional parameters(v54
> and
> > alternate).
> > In my knowledge there could be 4 possible combinations but
> only two work
> > 
> > full 
> > full with alternate(doesnot work) 
> > payload(doesnot work) 
> > payload with v54 
> > 
> > Can anybody explain these also in additional to the previous
> doubts
> > mentioned below
> > --- 
> > 
> > 
> > Simmi Singh wrote: 
> > 
> >>Hi all, 
> >>while configuring the T1 CSU DSU card we use service-module 
> >>commands. 
> >>Here when I have the following command 
> >>service-module t1 remote-loopback {full | payload} [alternate
> |
> >>v54] 
> >>The default option is Full and payload loopbacks with 
> >>standard-loopup codes. and its mentioned in documentation
> also
> >>that by entering the service-module t1 remote-loopback
> command
> >>without specifying any keywords, you enable the
> standard-loopup
> >>codes, which use a 1-in-5 pattern for loopup and a 1-in-3 
> >>pattern for loopdown. 
> >>
> >>
> >>The calrifications needed are that 
> >>1) What is thedefault option for loopback.If I select the
> full option from
> > 
> > the cli then want to switch
> > 
> >>back to the default option, do the above command without 
> >>parameters will do that function 
> >>example 
> >>service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 
> >>
> >>
> >>then if i want to switch to default option will this work 
> >>
> >>service-module t1 remote-loopback 
> >>
> >>But I tried this command doesnot work(incomplete command) 
> >>so how to enable both payload and alternate with standard 
> >>loopup codes. 
> >>Just by negating the earlier command 
> >>is their some command for this 
> >>
> >>2) For what this default option used for 
> >>
> >>any help will be appreciated 
> -- 
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
> 612-664-3367
> 
> "You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer."
> --Winston
> Churchill
> 
> 




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Re: T1 Csu dsu issue(commands) [7:62445]

2003-02-06 Thread MADMAN
The version 2 WIC commands are all identical this WIC just has an 
upgraded framer and some other hardware.

   What exactly are you trying to do??

   Dave

Simmi Singh wrote:
> Hi Dave
> Thanx replying
> is this in version 2 of  WIC-1DSU-T1 these commands work fine or what I
> could not get u.
> May be somebody else who has worked on WIC-1DSU-T1,please do send your
> valuable comments if u have any.
> 
> 
> 
> MADMAN wrote:
> 
>>The documentation is not very accurate on this as you have 
>>discovered.Thanks for pointing this out, I am beta testing
>>a version
>>2 of the WIC-1DSU-T1 and it is not optional, I will pass this
>>on.
>>
>>   Aside from testing though I have never needed to change the
>>default
>>in the real world.  The defaults let you loop the CSU with a
>>standard
>>issue T-BERD.
>>
>>   Dave
>>
>>Simmi Singh wrote:
>>
>>>I have 1 Port T1 CSU/DSU WAN Interface Card, 
>>>some more problems I am facing are 
>>>1) when I am trying to give 
>>>service-module t1 remote-loopback payload command with out
>>
>>any optional
>>
>>>parameter it does not work and gives that incomplete command
>>
>>error.where as
>>
>>>the V54 is optional parameter
>>>
>>>2) this combination of command also does not work and gives
>>
>>format error.
>>
>>>service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 
>>>
>>>this both v54 and alternate are optional parameters as
>>
>>mentioned in the
>>
>>>documentation.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_command_reference_chapter09186a00800874e6.html#1019309
> 
>>>Please refer this link that these are optional parameters(v54
>>
>>and
>>
>>>alternate).
>>>In my knowledge there could be 4 possible combinations but
>>
>>only two work
>>
>>>full 
>>>full with alternate(doesnot work) 
>>>payload(doesnot work) 
>>>payload with v54 
>>>
>>>Can anybody explain these also in additional to the previous
>>
>>doubts
>>
>>>mentioned below
>>>--- 
>>>
>>>
>>>Simmi Singh wrote: 
>>>
>>>
Hi all, 
while configuring the T1 CSU DSU card we use service-module 
commands. 
Here when I have the following command 
service-module t1 remote-loopback {full | payload} [alternate
>>>
>>|
>>
v54] 
The default option is Full and payload loopbacks with 
standard-loopup codes. and its mentioned in documentation
>>>
>>also
>>
that by entering the service-module t1 remote-loopback
>>>
>>command
>>
without specifying any keywords, you enable the
>>>
>>standard-loopup
>>
codes, which use a 1-in-5 pattern for loopup and a 1-in-3 
pattern for loopdown. 


The calrifications needed are that 
1) What is thedefault option for loopback.If I select the
>>>
>>full option from
>>
>>>the cli then want to switch
>>>
>>>
back to the default option, do the above command without 
parameters will do that function 
example 
service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 


then if i want to switch to default option will this work 

service-module t1 remote-loopback 

But I tried this command doesnot work(incomplete command) 
so how to enable both payload and alternate with standard 
loopup codes. 
Just by negating the earlier command 
is their some command for this 

2) For what this default option used for 

any help will be appreciated 
>>>
>>-- 
>>David Madland
>>CCIE# 2016
>>Sr. Network Engineer
>>Qwest Communications
>>612-664-3367
>>
>>"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer."
>>--Winston
>>Churchill
-- 
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CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston
Churchill




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Re: T1 Csu dsu issue(commands) [7:62445]

2003-02-06 Thread Simmi Singh
Hi Dave,
I was just trying installing and confguring  T1 card and I found the
commands wrong & not working as per documentation.
Thats why i was confuse and i thought I was wrong somewhere.
thanx for clarification
But has no body else observed what me and dave observed about t1 card.
(The commands which are not working)

MADMAN wrote:
> 
> The version 2 WIC commands are all identical this WIC just has
> an
> upgraded framer and some other hardware.
> 
>What exactly are you trying to do??
> 
>Dave
> 
> Simmi Singh wrote:
> > Hi Dave
> > Thanx replying
> > is this in version 2 of  WIC-1DSU-T1 these commands work fine
> or what I
> > could not get u.
> > May be somebody else who has worked on WIC-1DSU-T1,please do
> send your
> > valuable comments if u have any.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > MADMAN wrote:
> > 
> >>The documentation is not very accurate on this as you have 
> >>discovered.Thanks for pointing this out, I am beta testing
> >>a version
> >>2 of the WIC-1DSU-T1 and it is not optional, I will pass this
> >>on.
> >>
> >>   Aside from testing though I have never needed to change the
> >>default
> >>in the real world.  The defaults let you loop the CSU with a
> >>standard
> >>issue T-BERD.
> >>
> >>   Dave
> >>
> >>Simmi Singh wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have 1 Port T1 CSU/DSU WAN Interface Card, 
> >>>some more problems I am facing are 
> >>>1) when I am trying to give 
> >>>service-module t1 remote-loopback payload command with out
> >>
> >>any optional
> >>
> >>>parameter it does not work and gives that incomplete command
> >>
> >>error.where as
> >>
> >>>the V54 is optional parameter
> >>>
> >>>2) this combination of command also does not work and gives
> >>
> >>format error.
> >>
> >>>service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 
> >>>
> >>>this both v54 and alternate are optional parameters as
> >>
> >>mentioned in the
> >>
> >>>documentation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_command_reference_chapter09186a00800874e6.html#1019309
> > 
> >>>Please refer this link that these are optional parameters(v54
> >>
> >>and
> >>
> >>>alternate).
> >>>In my knowledge there could be 4 possible combinations but
> >>
> >>only two work
> >>
> >>>full 
> >>>full with alternate(doesnot work) 
> >>>payload(doesnot work) 
> >>>payload with v54 
> >>>
> >>>Can anybody explain these also in additional to the previous
> >>
> >>doubts
> >>
> >>>mentioned below
> >>>--- 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Simmi Singh wrote: 
> >>>
> >>>
> Hi all, 
> while configuring the T1 CSU DSU card we use service-module 
> commands. 
> Here when I have the following command 
> service-module t1 remote-loopback {full | payload}
> [alternate
> >>>
> >>|
> >>
> v54] 
> The default option is Full and payload loopbacks with 
> standard-loopup codes. and its mentioned in documentation
> >>>
> >>also
> >>
> that by entering the service-module t1 remote-loopback
> >>>
> >>command
> >>
> without specifying any keywords, you enable the
> >>>
> >>standard-loopup
> >>
> codes, which use a 1-in-5 pattern for loopup and a 1-in-3 
> pattern for loopdown. 
> 
> 
> The calrifications needed are that 
> 1) What is thedefault option for loopback.If I select the
> >>>
> >>full option from
> >>
> >>>the cli then want to switch
> >>>
> >>>
> back to the default option, do the above command without 
> parameters will do that function 
> example 
> service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 
> 
> 
> then if i want to switch to default option will this work 
> 
> service-module t1 remote-loopback 
> 
> But I tried this command doesnot work(incomplete command) 
> so how to enable both payload and alternate with standard 
> loopup codes. 
> Just by negating the earlier command 
> is their some command for this 
> 
> 2) For what this default option used for 
> 
> any help will be appreciated 
> >>>
> >>-- 
> >>David Madland
> >>CCIE# 2016
> >>Sr. Network Engineer
> >>Qwest Communications
> >>612-664-3367
> >>
> >>"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer."
> >>--Winston
> >>Churchill
> -- 
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
> 612-664-3367
> 
> "You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer."
> --Winston
> Churchill
> 
> 




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Re: T1 Csu dsu issue(commands) [7:62445]

2003-02-07 Thread MADMAN
I talked With a DE and they are aware of the documentation error and 
I was told that it has been corrected in the V2 docs.  When that will be 
reflected online is anybodys guess!!

   Dave



Simmi Singh wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> I was just trying installing and confguring  T1 card and I found the
> commands wrong & not working as per documentation.
> Thats why i was confuse and i thought I was wrong somewhere.
> thanx for clarification
> But has no body else observed what me and dave observed about t1 card.
> (The commands which are not working)
> 
> MADMAN wrote:
> 
>>The version 2 WIC commands are all identical this WIC just has
>>an
>>upgraded framer and some other hardware.
>>
>>   What exactly are you trying to do??
>>
>>   Dave
>>
>>Simmi Singh wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Dave
>>>Thanx replying
>>>is this in version 2 of  WIC-1DSU-T1 these commands work fine
>>
>>or what I
>>
>>>could not get u.
>>>May be somebody else who has worked on WIC-1DSU-T1,please do
>>
>>send your
>>
>>>valuable comments if u have any.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>MADMAN wrote:
>>>
>>>
The documentation is not very accurate on this as you have 
discovered.Thanks for pointing this out, I am beta testing
a version
2 of the WIC-1DSU-T1 and it is not optional, I will pass this
on.

  Aside from testing though I have never needed to change the
default
in the real world.  The defaults let you loop the CSU with a
standard
issue T-BERD.

  Dave

Simmi Singh wrote:


>I have 1 Port T1 CSU/DSU WAN Interface Card, 
>some more problems I am facing are 
>1) when I am trying to give 
>service-module t1 remote-loopback payload command with out

any optional


>parameter it does not work and gives that incomplete command

error.where as


>the V54 is optional parameter
>
>2) this combination of command also does not work and gives

format error.


>service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 
>
>this both v54 and alternate are optional parameters as

mentioned in the


>documentation.
>
>

>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_command_reference_chapter09186a00800874e6.html#1019309
> 
>Please refer this link that these are optional parameters(v54

and


>alternate).
>In my knowledge there could be 4 possible combinations but

only two work


>full 
>full with alternate(doesnot work) 
>payload(doesnot work) 
>payload with v54 
>
>Can anybody explain these also in additional to the previous

doubts


>mentioned below
>--- 
>
>
>Simmi Singh wrote: 
>
>
>
>>Hi all, 
>>while configuring the T1 CSU DSU card we use service-module 
>>commands. 
>>Here when I have the following command 
>>service-module t1 remote-loopback {full | payload}
>
>>[alternate
>>
|


>>v54] 
>>The default option is Full and payload loopbacks with 
>>standard-loopup codes. and its mentioned in documentation
>
also


>>that by entering the service-module t1 remote-loopback
>
command


>>without specifying any keywords, you enable the
>
standard-loopup


>>codes, which use a 1-in-5 pattern for loopup and a 1-in-3 
>>pattern for loopdown. 
>>
>>
>>The calrifications needed are that 
>>1) What is thedefault option for loopback.If I select the
>
full option from


>the cli then want to switch
>
>
>
>>back to the default option, do the above command without 
>>parameters will do that function 
>>example 
>>service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 
>>
>>
>>then if i want to switch to default option will this work 
>>
>>service-module t1 remote-loopback 
>>
>>But I tried this command doesnot work(incomplete command) 
>>so how to enable both payload and alternate with standard 
>>loopup codes. 
>>Just by negating the earlier command 
>>is their some command for this 
>>
>>2) For what this default option used for 
>>
>>any help will be appreciated 
>
-- 
David Madland
CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer."
--Winston
Churchill
>>>
>>-- 
>>David Madland
>>CCIE# 2016
>>Sr. Network Engineer
>>Qwest Communications
>>612-664-3367
>>
>>"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer."
>>--Winston
>>Churchill
-- 
David Madland
CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston
Churchill




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