Re: How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router? [7:64841]

2003-03-08 Thread Amar KHELIFI
that argument does not exist with the password command atleast for the ios
vers i have.
what ios r u using.
normally when there is an arrgument a space delimites it.
telnet 3001, will actually try to resolve 3001 to an ip(ie, if ip host is
being used)
could u develop a bit on this?

Regards, Amar.

Dimitrije  a icrit dans le message de news:
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 line vty 3 4
  password LetMeInPort3001
  login
  rotary 1
 !

 telnet  3001   allows you to telnet into router at port 3001

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router?




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Re: How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router? [7:64856]

2003-03-08 Thread Dimitrije
argument in the password commnad is actually the un-encrypted password.
telnet ip_address 3001  will get you a cisco password promt at port 3001.

Amar KHELIFI wrote:

 that argument does not exist with the password command atleast for the ios
 vers i have.
 what ios r u using.
 normally when there is an arrgument a space delimites it.
 telnet 3001, will actually try to resolve 3001 to an ip(ie, if ip host is
 being used)
 could u develop a bit on this?

 Regards, Amar.

 Dimitrije  a icrit dans le message de news:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  line vty 3 4
   password LetMeInPort3001
   login
   rotary 1
  !
 
  telnet  3001   allows you to telnet into router at port 3001
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router?




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Re: How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router? [7:64857]

2003-03-08 Thread Amar KHELIFI
the un-encrypted password, well, obviously.
telnet x.x.x.x 3001 will hit one of the available terminal lines on rotary
group 1, when u run it from a cisco router, other wise, from an os point of
view the argument would be the port number that the telnet service listens
on.
the question was, if the telnet service can sit on a port other than 23, in
a cisco router or switch for that matter.
i have not a found a way to do it(but, i haev not looked ver hard, either),
but it can be done by nating the tcp port of a giving ip, efectively
arriving at the desired solution.
u could use  ip alias command to bind an ip to a giving line, or port,
much like what happens automatically with async links.


Dimitrije  a icrit dans le message de news:
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 argument in the password commnad is actually the un-encrypted password.
 telnet ip_address 3001  will get you a cisco password promt at port
3001.

 Amar KHELIFI wrote:

  that argument does not exist with the password command atleast for the
ios
  vers i have.
  what ios r u using.
  normally when there is an arrgument a space delimites it.
  telnet 3001, will actually try to resolve 3001 to an ip(ie, if ip host
is
  being used)
  could u develop a bit on this?
 
  Regards, Amar.
 
  Dimitrije  a icrit dans le message de news:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   line vty 3 4
password LetMeInPort3001
login
rotary 1
   !
  
   telnet  3001   allows you to telnet into router at port 3001
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router?




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How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router? [7:64382]

2003-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router?




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Re: How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router? [7:64402]

2003-03-04 Thread Michael W. Oliver
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supposing you wanted to telnet to the router using port 10023...

! ingress interface for telnet session
!
int e0
ip addr 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
ip access-group TELNET_PT_ACL in
ip nat outside
!
int loop0
ip addr 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255
ip nat inside
!
ip nat inside source static 1.1.1.1 23 192.168.0.1 10023 extend
!
ip access-list ex TELNET_PT_ACL
deny tcp any 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 eq 23
permit any


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Re: How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router? [7:64438]

2003-03-04 Thread Dimitrije
line vty 3 4
 password LetMeInPort3001
 login
 rotary 1
!

telnet  3001   allows you to telnet into router at port 3001

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How do you change tcp port for telnet on a router?




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changing telnet port in router [7:55377]

2002-10-11 Thread Firesox

I forgot how to  change the telnet port in the router from 23.
Thanks




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Re: changing telnet port in router [7:55377]

2002-10-11 Thread Gaz
In article , [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
says...
 I forgot how to  change the telnet port in the router from 23.

So did I.

Don't think you can, but no doubt someone will correct me if wrong.
What's the reason?
SSH help at all?

Gaz

 Thanks




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How come I can't telnet to my router? [7:42444]

2002-04-24 Thread Ricky Chan

Hi all,

I configured a cisco 2600 router behind a ADSL router. It is working
perfect, but I can't telnet to my router from outside, it said the target
machine actively refused it. I pasted my router's configuration below,
please advice. 

Thanks

Ricky



!
version 12.2
no service pad
service tcp-keepalives-in
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname DSL
!
enable secret 5 $1$fJh4$53q/uqBz6lsMHGhw.ex49.
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
ip name-server 141.155.0.68
ip name-server 141.154.0.68
ip name-server 10.0.0.1
ip dhcp excluded-address 10.0.0.200
!
ip dhcp pool dsl
   import all
   network 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0
   default-router 10.0.0.200 
   dns-server 141.155.0.68 141.154.0.68 10.0.0.1 
!
vpdn enable
!
vpdn-group ppoe
 request-dialin
  protocol pppoe
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
fax interface-type fax-mail
mta receive maximum-recipients 0
!
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0/0
 ip address 10.0.0.200 255.255.255.0
 ip nat inside
 ip route-cache flow
 ip tcp adjust-mss 1452
 full-duplex
!
interface Serial0/0
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
interface Ethernet0/1
 no ip address
 ip route-cache flow
 no keepalive
 half-duplex
 pppoe enable
 pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
!
interface Serial0/1
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
interface Dialer1
 ip address negotiated
 ip mtu 1492
 ip nat outside
 encapsulation ppp
 ip route-cache flow
 dialer pool 1
 dialer-group 2
 ppp authentication chap callin
 ppp chap hostname [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ppp chap password 7 11243026324158
!
router eigrp 100
 network 10.0.0.0
 network 192.168.100.0
 no auto-summary
 no eigrp log-neighbor-changes
!
ip nat inside source list 1 interface Dialer1 overload
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1
no ip http server
ip pim bidir-enable
!
!
access-list 1 permit 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 2 permit any
access-list 3 deny   any
dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit
dialer-list 2 protocol ipx permit
no cdp advertise-v2
!
call rsvp-sync
!
!
mgcp profile default
!
dial-peer cor custom
!
!
!
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 5 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 exec-timeout 5 0
 password 7 051C050720
 login local
!
!
end




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RE: How come I can't telnet to my router? [7:42444]

2002-04-24 Thread Chris Charlebois

It's because you are running NAT overloaded.  It assumes that all traffic it
receives on the dialer interface is destined for a machine on the inside and
not for itself.  Since there is no static mapping, and no dynamic mapping
for telnet, it is refused.  That is assuming you are coming in over the
dialer interface.



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RE: How come I can't telnet to my router? [7:42444]

2002-04-24 Thread Chris Charlebois

Oh, how rude of me.  I explained the problem without offering a solution. 
The easiest (and least likely, considering it appears to be residencial DSL)
is multiple IP addresses.  A secondary address that is not a part of the NAT
pool could be addressed from the outside.  The next easiest (I hesitate to
say next best, becuase this option is more secure) solution is to create a
static NAT map for telnet (port specific) to an internal box (anything with
telnetd will work).  Then you can telnet from there to the ethernet
interface of the router.


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RE: How come I can't telnet to my router? [7:42444]

2002-04-24 Thread Michael Williams

Ricky Chan wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I configured a cisco 2600 router behind a ADSL router.

You have your 2660 behind an ADSL Router?  or ASDL Modem?  If you're behind
a DSL router, then you're more than likely being NATed by the DSL router, in
which case you need to create a static port mapping that would send all
incoming (from the internet) traffic on port 23 to go to the IP of the router.

Mike W.


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Re: OT: telnet to a router from anywhere - wireless!!! [7:22218]

2001-10-05 Thread Patrick Ramsey

I couldn't imagine using one of thosepalm tops are bad enough...and my
typing skills do not help the matter.  It would take me 5 minutes to type in
one command!  :)

 Brad Ellis  10/04/01 11:06PM 
Fellow geeks need to check this out, it just looks too cool (wireless telnet
access):

http://www.airstreamws.com/ourproducts/sshtelnet.html 

I just bought a RIM 957, so I'll let everyone know how well it works.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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OT: telnet to a router from anywhere - wireless!!! [7:22166]

2001-10-04 Thread Brad Ellis

Fellow geeks need to check this out, it just looks too cool (wireless telnet
access):

http://www.airstreamws.com/ourproducts/sshtelnet.html

I just bought a RIM 957, so I'll let everyone know how well it works.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
used Cisco:  www.optsys.net




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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-04-02 Thread J Roysdon

Perhaps you had an older version of TTSSH.  I can't confirm that TTSSH will
work with Cisco's SSH implementation (but it is what they recommend on their
site):
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_v52/pixrn524.h
tm
"
Obtaining an SSH Client
The following sites let you download an SSH v1.x client. Because SSH version
1.x and version 2 are entirely different protocols and not compatible, be
sure you download a client that supports SSH v1.x.


  a.. Windows 3.1, Windows CE, Windows 95, and Windows NT 4.0first download
the free Tera Term Pro SSH v1.x client from the following site:

  http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html

  Then add the SSH extension to Tera Term Pro, which is available at the
following site:

  http://www.zip.com.au/~roca/ttssh.html

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""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 do NOT Teraterm Pro, it doesn't work.  The reason is that I think Cisco
 user SSH version 1.5.x or something which is something Teraterm does not
 support.  Try putty.  You can search for it from www.google.com.
 I had the same problem you have before.  When I switch over to putty
 or minterm, it works like a charm.

 Sean


 From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:06:37 -0500
 
 Thanks, Clayton,  But I could not connet to the router using Tera Term
Pro
 with SSH.  I know the Tera Term is working because I have been using it
to
 connect to my PIX through SSH.  My router running Version 12.0(7)XK1 with
 DES support.
 I did the following.
 
   Router(config)# hostname hostname
   Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
   Router(config)# crypto key generate rsaand
line vty 0 4
transport input all
 
 What do you think is the problem.
 
 Thanks
 
 Ruihai
 ""Clayton Price"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Depending on the platform I think you left out some vital commands.
  
   Router(config)# hostname hostname
   Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
   Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa
  
  

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/12
1
   t/121t1/sshv1.htm#xtocid265436
  
   Clayton Price
  
   ""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
The answer is a very easy one.  You need to download Cisco IOS with
either DES or 3DES.  Furthermore, you will need to do this:
   
line vty 0 4
transport input ssh
   
That will do the trick.  If you want to be even more secure,
implement
TACACS server instead of local account.  By the way "transport input
 ssh"
essentially cut-off telnet to your router.  I've heard of newbies in
this group suggesting of implementing access-list to prevent.
That's
 not
the right way to do it.  Another thing, remember Cisco IOS only
 supports
SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security
vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not implementing
 SSH2
on Cisco IOS.
   
   
   
   
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Subject: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:02 -0500

I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does
 anyone
know how to do the samething to IOS router?

Thanks

Ruihai
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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-04-02 Thread J Roysdon

Ah, as someone else posted (which I read after I posted this), TTSSH doesn't
work with the newer IOS implementations of SSH.

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""J Roysdon"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
9a99bb$5hp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a99bb$5hp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Perhaps you had an older version of TTSSH.  I can't confirm that TTSSH
will
 work with Cisco's SSH implementation (but it is what they recommend on
their
 site):

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_v52/pixrn524.h
 tm
 "
 Obtaining an SSH Client
 The following sites let you download an SSH v1.x client. Because SSH
version
 1.x and version 2 are entirely different protocols and not compatible, be
 sure you download a client that supports SSH v1.x.


   a.. Windows 3.1, Windows CE, Windows 95, and Windows NT 4.0first
download
 the free Tera Term Pro SSH v1.x client from the following site:

   http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html

   Then add the SSH extension to Tera Term Pro, which is available at the
 following site:

   http://www.zip.com.au/~roca/ttssh.html

 "
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 ""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  do NOT Teraterm Pro, it doesn't work.  The reason is that I think Cisco
  user SSH version 1.5.x or something which is something Teraterm does not
  support.  Try putty.  You can search for it from www.google.com.
  I had the same problem you have before.  When I switch over to putty
  or minterm, it works like a charm.
 
  Sean
 
 
  From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
  Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:06:37 -0500
  
  Thanks, Clayton,  But I could not connet to the router using Tera Term
 Pro
  with SSH.  I know the Tera Term is working because I have been using it
 to
  connect to my PIX through SSH.  My router running Version 12.0(7)XK1
with
  DES support.
  I did the following.
  
Router(config)# hostname hostname
Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
Router(config)# crypto key generate rsaand
 line vty 0 4
 transport input all
  
  What do you think is the problem.
  
  Thanks
  
  Ruihai
  ""Clayton Price"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Depending on the platform I think you left out some vital commands.
   
Router(config)# hostname hostname
Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa
   
   
 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/12
 1
t/121t1/sshv1.htm#xtocid265436
   
Clayton Price
   
""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 The answer is a very easy one.  You need to download Cisco IOS
with
 either DES or 3DES.  Furthermore, you will need to do this:

 line vty 0 4
 transport input ssh

 That will do the trick.  If you want to be even more secure,
 implement
 TACACS server instead of local account.  By the way "transport
input
  ssh"
 essentially cut-off telnet to your router.  I've heard of newbies
in
 this group suggesting of implementing access-list to prevent.
 That's
  not
 the right way to do it.  Another thing, remember Cisco IOS only
  supports
 SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security
 vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not
implementing
  SSH2
 on Cisco IOS.


    
    
 From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:02 -0500
 
 I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does
  anyone
 know how to do the samething to IOS router?
 
 Thanks
 
 Ruihai
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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-04-01 Thread Groupstudy.com

Thanks, Sean,
PuTTY worked fine.

Ruihai
""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 do NOT Teraterm Pro, it doesn't work.  The reason is that I think Cisco
 user SSH version 1.5.x or something which is something Teraterm does not
 support.  Try putty.  You can search for it from www.google.com.
 I had the same problem you have before.  When I switch over to putty
 or minterm, it works like a charm.

 Sean


 From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:06:37 -0500
 
 Thanks, Clayton,  But I could not connet to the router using Tera Term
Pro
 with SSH.  I know the Tera Term is working because I have been using it
to
 connect to my PIX through SSH.  My router running Version 12.0(7)XK1 with
 DES support.
 I did the following.
 
   Router(config)# hostname hostname
   Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
   Router(config)# crypto key generate rsaand
line vty 0 4
transport input all
 
 What do you think is the problem.
 
 Thanks
 
 Ruihai
 ""Clayton Price"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Depending on the platform I think you left out some vital commands.
  
   Router(config)# hostname hostname
   Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
   Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa
  
  

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/12
1
   t/121t1/sshv1.htm#xtocid265436
  
   Clayton Price
  
   ""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
The answer is a very easy one.  You need to download Cisco IOS with
either DES or 3DES.  Furthermore, you will need to do this:
   
line vty 0 4
transport input ssh
   
That will do the trick.  If you want to be even more secure,
implement
TACACS server instead of local account.  By the way "transport input
 ssh"
essentially cut-off telnet to your router.  I've heard of newbies in
this group suggesting of implementing access-list to prevent.
That's
 not
the right way to do it.  Another thing, remember Cisco IOS only
 supports
SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security
vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not implementing
 SSH2
on Cisco IOS.
   
   
   
   
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:02 -0500

I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does
 anyone
know how to do the samething to IOS router?

Thanks

Ruihai
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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-04-01 Thread Sean Young

glad I can help.  Personally, I like mindterm because it has more bell
and whistle.  In either case, both putty and mindterm work well because
there is no installation required.  Damn, these guys are really good
software developers.




From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:15:07 -0400

Thanks, Sean,
PuTTY worked fine.

Ruihai
""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  do NOT Teraterm Pro, it doesn't work.  The reason is that I think Cisco
  user SSH version 1.5.x or something which is something Teraterm does not
  support.  Try putty.  You can search for it from www.google.com.
  I had the same problem you have before.  When I switch over to putty
  or minterm, it works like a charm.
 
  Sean
 
 
  From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
  Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:06:37 -0500
  
  Thanks, Clayton,  But I could not connet to the router using Tera Term
Pro
  with SSH.  I know the Tera Term is working because I have been using it
to
  connect to my PIX through SSH.  My router running Version 12.0(7)XK1 
with
  DES support.
  I did the following.
  
Router(config)# hostname hostname
Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
Router(config)# crypto key generate rsaand
 line vty 0 4
 transport input all
  
  What do you think is the problem.
  
  Thanks
  
  Ruihai
  ""Clayton Price"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Depending on the platform I think you left out some vital commands.
   
Router(config)# hostname hostname
Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa
   
   
 
 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/12
1
t/121t1/sshv1.htm#xtocid265436
   
Clayton Price
   
""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 The answer is a very easy one.  You need to download Cisco IOS 
with
 either DES or 3DES.  Furthermore, you will need to do this:

 line vty 0 4
 transport input ssh

 That will do the trick.  If you want to be even more secure,
implement
 TACACS server instead of local account.  By the way "transport 
input
  ssh"
 essentially cut-off telnet to your router.  I've heard of newbies 
in
 this group suggesting of implementing access-list to prevent.
That's
  not
 the right way to do it.  Another thing, remember Cisco IOS only
  supports
 SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security
 vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not 
implementing
  SSH2
 on Cisco IOS.




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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:02 -0500
 
 I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does
  anyone
 know how to do the samething to IOS router?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-04-01 Thread J Roysdon

Simple CCO search of 'router ssh' found:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121
t/121t1/sshv1.htm

"Secure Shell Version 1 Support
...
Supported Platforms

  a.. Cisco 1700 series


  b.. Cisco 2600 series


  c.. Cisco 3600 series


  d.. Cisco 7200 series


  e.. Cisco 7500 series


  f.. Cisco ubr920 series
...
Prerequisites
IPSec Software Image Required



Before configuring the SSH server feature, you must have an IPSec encryption
software image from Cisco IOS Release 12.1(1)T downloaded on your router. "



Some encryption is better than plaintext, of course, but SSHv1 has been
found to have a number of security holes.  My suggestion would be to have a
box running SSHv2 that I can securely connect to, or use an IPSEC tunnel.

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 I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does anyone
 know how to do the samething to IOS router?

 Thanks

 Ruihai
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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-03-31 Thread Groupstudy.com

Thanks, Clayton,  But I could not connet to the router using Tera Term Pro
with SSH.  I know the Tera Term is working because I have been using it to
connect to my PIX through SSH.  My router running Version 12.0(7)XK1 with
DES support.
I did the following.

 Router(config)# hostname hostname
 Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
 Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa
and
  line vty 0 4
  transport input all

What do you think is the problem.

Thanks

Ruihai
""Clayton Price"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Depending on the platform I think you left out some vital commands.

 Router(config)# hostname hostname
 Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
 Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121
 t/121t1/sshv1.htm#xtocid265436

 Clayton Price

 ""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  The answer is a very easy one.  You need to download Cisco IOS with
  either DES or 3DES.  Furthermore, you will need to do this:
 
  line vty 0 4
  transport input ssh
 
  That will do the trick.  If you want to be even more secure, implement
  TACACS server instead of local account.  By the way "transport input
ssh"
  essentially cut-off telnet to your router.  I've heard of newbies in
  this group suggesting of implementing access-list to prevent.  That's
not
  the right way to do it.  Another thing, remember Cisco IOS only supports
  SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security
  vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not implementing SSH2
  on Cisco IOS.
 
 
 
 
  From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
  Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:02 -0500
  
  I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does
anyone
  know how to do the samething to IOS router?
  
  Thanks
  
  Ruihai
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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-03-31 Thread Clayton Price

I'm not sure if that release supports ssh. It might have to be one of the
12.1(x)T releases.

Clayton

""Groupstudy.com"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
9a53ff$1pr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a53ff$1pr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Thanks, Clayton,  But I could not connet to the router using Tera Term Pro
 with SSH.  I know the Tera Term is working because I have been using it to
 connect to my PIX through SSH.  My router running Version 12.0(7)XK1 with
 DES support.
 I did the following.

  Router(config)# hostname hostname
  Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
  Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa
 and
   line vty 0 4
   transport input all

 What do you think is the problem.

 Thanks

 Ruihai
 ""Clayton Price"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Depending on the platform I think you left out some vital commands.
 
  Router(config)# hostname hostname
  Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
  Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa
 
 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121
  t/121t1/sshv1.htm#xtocid265436
 
  Clayton Price
 
  ""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   The answer is a very easy one.  You need to download Cisco IOS with
   either DES or 3DES.  Furthermore, you will need to do this:
  
   line vty 0 4
   transport input ssh
  
   That will do the trick.  If you want to be even more secure, implement
   TACACS server instead of local account.  By the way "transport input
 ssh"
   essentially cut-off telnet to your router.  I've heard of newbies in
   this group suggesting of implementing access-list to prevent.  That's
 not
   the right way to do it.  Another thing, remember Cisco IOS only
supports
   SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security
   vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not implementing
SSH2
   on Cisco IOS.
  
  
  
  
   From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
   Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:02 -0500
   
   I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does
 anyone
   know how to do the samething to IOS router?
   
   Thanks
   
   Ruihai
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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-03-31 Thread Sean Young

do NOT Teraterm Pro, it doesn't work.  The reason is that I think Cisco
user SSH version 1.5.x or something which is something Teraterm does not
support.  Try putty.  You can search for it from www.google.com.
I had the same problem you have before.  When I switch over to putty
or minterm, it works like a charm.

Sean


From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:06:37 -0500

Thanks, Clayton,  But I could not connet to the router using Tera Term Pro
with SSH.  I know the Tera Term is working because I have been using it to
connect to my PIX through SSH.  My router running Version 12.0(7)XK1 with
DES support.
I did the following.

  Router(config)# hostname hostname
  Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
  Router(config)# crypto key generate rsaand
   line vty 0 4
   transport input all

What do you think is the problem.

Thanks

Ruihai
""Clayton Price"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Depending on the platform I think you left out some vital commands.
 
  Router(config)# hostname hostname
  Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
  Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa
 
 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121
  t/121t1/sshv1.htm#xtocid265436
 
  Clayton Price
 
  ""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   The answer is a very easy one.  You need to download Cisco IOS with
   either DES or 3DES.  Furthermore, you will need to do this:
  
   line vty 0 4
   transport input ssh
  
   That will do the trick.  If you want to be even more secure, implement
   TACACS server instead of local account.  By the way "transport input
ssh"
   essentially cut-off telnet to your router.  I've heard of newbies in
   this group suggesting of implementing access-list to prevent.  That's
not
   the right way to do it.  Another thing, remember Cisco IOS only 
supports
   SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security
   vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not implementing 
SSH2
   on Cisco IOS.
  
  
  
  
   From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
   Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:02 -0500
   
   I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does
anyone
   know how to do the samething to IOS router?
   
   Thanks
   
   Ruihai
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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-03-31 Thread Sean Young

Oh, Clayton is right.  The IOS I am running is 12.1.7 with 3DES.
However, my previous answer is correct that you need to use putty or
mindterm ssh clients because Teraterm doesn't work with Cisco SSH in
version 12.1.7.  I learned it the hard way.

From: "Clayton Price" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Clayton Price" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:05:45 -0600

I'm not sure if that release supports ssh. It might have to be one of the
12.1(x)T releases.

Clayton

""Groupstudy.com"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
9a53ff$1pr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a53ff$1pr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Thanks, Clayton,  But I could not connet to the router using Tera Term 
Pro
  with SSH.  I know the Tera Term is working because I have been using it 
to
  connect to my PIX through SSH.  My router running Version 12.0(7)XK1 
with
  DES support.
  I did the following.
 
   Router(config)# hostname hostname
   Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
   Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa
  and
line vty 0 4
transport input all
 
  What do you think is the problem.
 
  Thanks
 
  Ruihai
  ""Clayton Price"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9a4033$lvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Depending on the platform I think you left out some vital commands.
  
   Router(config)# hostname hostname
   Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
   Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa
  
  
 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121
   t/121t1/sshv1.htm#xtocid265436
  
   Clayton Price
  
   ""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
The answer is a very easy one.  You need to download Cisco IOS with
either DES or 3DES.  Furthermore, you will need to do this:
   
line vty 0 4
transport input ssh
   
That will do the trick.  If you want to be even more secure, 
implement
TACACS server instead of local account.  By the way "transport input
  ssh"
essentially cut-off telnet to your router.  I've heard of newbies in
this group suggesting of implementing access-list to prevent.  
That's
  not
the right way to do it.  Another thing, remember Cisco IOS only
supports
SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security
vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not implementing
SSH2
on Cisco IOS.
   
   
   
   
From: "Groupstudy.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:02 -0500

I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does
  anyone
know how to do the samething to IOS router?

Thanks

Ruihai
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Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-03-30 Thread Groupstudy.com

I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does anyone
know how to do the samething to IOS router?

Thanks

Ruihai


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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-03-30 Thread Sean Young

The answer is a very easy one.  You need to download Cisco IOS with
either DES or 3DES.  Furthermore, you will need to do this:

line vty 0 4
transport input ssh

That will do the trick.  If you want to be even more secure, implement
TACACS server instead of local account.  By the way "transport input ssh"
essentially cut-off telnet to your router.  I've heard of newbies in
this group suggesting of implementing access-list to prevent.  That's not
the right way to do it.  Another thing, remember Cisco IOS only supports
SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security 
vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not implementing SSH2
on Cisco IOS.




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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Secure telnet to your router using SSH
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:02 -0500

I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does anyone
know how to do the samething to IOS router?

Thanks

Ruihai


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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-03-30 Thread Mask Of Zorro

But just the other day *you* were the newbie asking how to do it! That's 
when I told you to go look for a cable stretcher...
Don't go insulting the newbies now that you feel you've graduated.

Z

from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
By the way "transport input ssh" essentially cut-off telnet to your router. 
  I've heard of newbies in this group suggesting of implementing 
access-list to prevent.  That's not the right way to do it.  Another thing, 
remember Cisco IOS only supports
SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security
vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not implementing SSH2
on Cisco IOS.



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Re: Secure telnet to your router using SSH

2001-03-30 Thread Clayton Price

Depending on the platform I think you left out some vital commands.

Router(config)# hostname hostname
Router(config)# ip domain-name domainname
Router(config)# crypto key generate rsa

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121
t/121t1/sshv1.htm#xtocid265436

Clayton Price

""Sean Young"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 The answer is a very easy one.  You need to download Cisco IOS with
 either DES or 3DES.  Furthermore, you will need to do this:

 line vty 0 4
 transport input ssh

 That will do the trick.  If you want to be even more secure, implement
 TACACS server instead of local account.  By the way "transport input ssh"
 essentially cut-off telnet to your router.  I've heard of newbies in
 this group suggesting of implementing access-list to prevent.  That's not
 the right way to do it.  Another thing, remember Cisco IOS only supports
 SSH version 1 and keep in mind that SSH 1 does have security
 vulnerabilities.  F___ those bastards at Cisco for not implementing SSH2
 on Cisco IOS.




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 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:02 -0500
 
 I have been using SSH to secure my telnet connection toPIX.  Does anyone
 know how to do the samething to IOS router?
 
 Thanks
 
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Telnet to a Router

2001-03-05 Thread Mark Rose


I am trying to telnet to a 2514 router from work. I have a Linksys BEFSR41
ethernet/dsl router on my incoming cable line. I have enabled port
forwarding for telnet (port 23) on this router. I have also set up vty on
the 2514. When I try to telnet to the wan interface of the Linksys forwarded
to the ethernet interface on the 2514 I get the message "Could not open a
connection to host: Connection failed". But if I remote access an NT server
inside my home net (on internal address space), from there I can telnet (on
the private address space) to the same ethernet interface and connect.

Since I can remote access my NT box, port forwarding on the Linksys router
is working. Also the 2514 should be set properly since I can telnet in from
within my lan. I must be overlooking something but I cannot figure it out.

I would appreciate any ideas or assistance.

TIA
Mark



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RE: Telnet to a Router

2001-03-05 Thread Albert Lu

Hi Mark,

Could it be that the router doesn't know where to send packets it is trying
to reply to? Try adding a static route to your gateway, so packets coming in
will know where to go (your gateway) once it arrives.

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 e0

That is one way of doing it. Please make suggestions if there is better way.
Of course you could use a routing protocol, but thats abit complicated when
all you want to do is telnet in.

Regards,

Albert

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 Mark Rose
 Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2001 4:28
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 I am trying to telnet to a 2514 router from work. I have a Linksys BEFSR41
 ethernet/dsl router on my incoming cable line. I have enabled port
 forwarding for telnet (port 23) on this router. I have also set up vty on
 the 2514. When I try to telnet to the wan interface of the
 Linksys forwarded
 to the ethernet interface on the 2514 I get the message "Could not open a
 connection to host: Connection failed". But if I remote access an
 NT server
 inside my home net (on internal address space), from there I can
 telnet (on
 the private address space) to the same ethernet interface and connect.

 Since I can remote access my NT box, port forwarding on the Linksys router
 is working. Also the 2514 should be set properly since I can
 telnet in from
 within my lan. I must be overlooking something but I cannot figure it out.

 I would appreciate any ideas or assistance.

 TIA
 Mark



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RE: Telnet to a Router

2001-03-05 Thread Timothy Metz

I have a Netgear and have to specify a default host for a given port. Do you
have something similar? My default host for port 23 is my access layer 2501
and I can telnet in from outside of my LAN.

Tim

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 I am trying to telnet to a 2514 router from work. I have a Linksys BEFSR41
 ethernet/dsl router on my incoming cable line. I have enabled port
 forwarding for telnet (port 23) on this router. I have also set up vty on
 the 2514. When I try to telnet to the wan interface of the
 Linksys forwarded
 to the ethernet interface on the 2514 I get the message "Could not open a
 connection to host: Connection failed". But if I remote access an
 NT server
 inside my home net (on internal address space), from there I can
 telnet (on
 the private address space) to the same ethernet interface and connect.

 Since I can remote access my NT box, port forwarding on the Linksys router
 is working. Also the 2514 should be set properly since I can
 telnet in from
 within my lan. I must be overlooking something but I cannot figure it out.

 I would appreciate any ideas or assistance.

 TIA
 Mark



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Re: Telnet to a Router

2001-03-05 Thread Kevin Wigle

h, I have 2 BEFSR41s (one for adsl and one for cable) and all port
forwarding works ok also.

You say that you can remotely access an NT server. I take it that is by
Telnet?

So, then you also try to telnet the router?  I'm wondering if you're allowed
to have a single port (port 23) forwarded to different inside
addresses. which is what it sounds like you're trying to do.

Define only one end address for port 23 (the router) and try that.

For all my port forwarding I have only one destination for each defined
port/range.

Kevin Wigle

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Subject: Telnet to a Router



 I am trying to telnet to a 2514 router from work. I have a Linksys BEFSR41
 ethernet/dsl router on my incoming cable line. I have enabled port
 forwarding for telnet (port 23) on this router. I have also set up vty on
 the 2514. When I try to telnet to the wan interface of the Linksys
forwarded
 to the ethernet interface on the 2514 I get the message "Could not open a
 connection to host: Connection failed". But if I remote access an NT
server
 inside my home net (on internal address space), from there I can telnet
(on
 the private address space) to the same ethernet interface and connect.

 Since I can remote access my NT box, port forwarding on the Linksys router
 is working. Also the 2514 should be set properly since I can telnet in
from
 within my lan. I must be overlooking something but I cannot figure it out.

 I would appreciate any ideas or assistance.

 TIA
 Mark



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