full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread John Tafasi
Hi,

I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How can I find out if
this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?


Thanks




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RE: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread Dave Swink
John,

It will be half duplex unless it has been configured for full duplex.
Setting an ethernet interface to full duplex is done in software and
requires a recent IOS.  I have forgotten the minimum rev required but I know
12.2.3 will work.

Dave Swink

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Hi,

I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How can I find out if
this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?


Thanks




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Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread Reinhold Fischer
John,

Cisco's 25xx series uses the AMD Lance Chip for their 10Mbit
Ethernet Interface. This Chipset does not support full-duplex at all.

Router#show controllers ethernet 0
LANCE unit 0,
^

Have never used a 2516 myself but as far as i know it has a simple 10Mbit
Ethernet Hub built in. FullDuplex Operation would require a switch.

Regards

Reinhold


On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:56:50AM +, John Tafasi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How can I find out
if
> this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?
> 
> 
> Thanks




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Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""John Tafasi""  wrote in message
news:200211141056.KAA04663@;groupstudy.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How can I find out
if
> this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?

plug it into a full duplex 100 mbs switch port and see if link occurs?

seriously, I believe all routers in the 25xx line are 10/half.

there is no report on speed and duplex on routers that I can find. show int
on a switch gives you a status

Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Auto-duplex, Auto-speed

even on a router with a port that do duplex changes ( 3640 NM-4E )there is
no status.

I don't have access to a router with a port that permits speed and duplex
changes.so I can't compare.



>
>
> Thanks




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Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> 
> ""John Tafasi""  wrote in message
> news:200211141056.KAA04663@;groupstudy.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How
> can I find out
> if
> > this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?
> 
> plug it into a full duplex 100 mbs switch port and see if link
> occurs?

You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex side would
receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side would send
whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would report collisions,
assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic.

I think the best answer is that the 2500 routers pre-date the full-duplex
standard. I bet they don't do full-duplex.

> 
> seriously, I believe all routers in the 25xx line are 10/half.
> 
> there is no report on speed and duplex on routers that I can
> find. 

That's annoying. I guess show run would show you a non-default setting, but
that's not too helpful.

Priscilla

> show int
> on a switch gives you a status
> 
> Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
>   Keepalive set (10 sec)
>   Auto-duplex, Auto-speed
> 
> even on a router with a port that do duplex changes ( 3640
> NM-4E )there is
> no status.
> 
> I don't have access to a router with a port that permits speed
> and duplex
> changes.so I can't compare.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> 
> 




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Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread sam sneed
this is about the comment

" You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex side would
 receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side would send
 whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would report collisions,
assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic."

I hooked up a 2501 eth0 to a 3548 set to full duplex and speed 100.
Interestingly the link light on the router lights up but no the switch. The
switch sees the total link down and would not even bother sending. I plugged
it into an auto-neg port and it obviously worked. Here is the output from
switch.

Cisco3500-3#sh int fa0/17
FastEthernet0/17 is down, line protocol is down
  Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0002.fd45.4b91 (bia 0002.fd45.4b91)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 0 Kbit, DLY 100 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive not set
  Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input never, output never, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1y40w
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
 0 watchdog, 0 multicast
 0 input packets with dribble condition detected
 0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2 interface resets
 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
Cisco3500-3#





""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
news:200211141830.SAA03800@;groupstudy.com...
> The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> >
> > ""John Tafasi""  wrote in message
> > news:200211141056.KAA04663@;groupstudy.com...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How
> > can I find out
> > if
> > > this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?
> >
> > plug it into a full duplex 100 mbs switch port and see if link
> > occurs?
>
> You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex side would
> receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side would send
> whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would report collisions,
> assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic.
>
> I think the best answer is that the 2500 routers pre-date the full-duplex
> standard. I bet they don't do full-duplex.
>
> >
> > seriously, I believe all routers in the 25xx line are 10/half.
> >
> > there is no report on speed and duplex on routers that I can
> > find.
>
> That's annoying. I guess show run would show you a non-default setting,
but
> that's not too helpful.
>
> Priscilla
>
> > show int
> > on a switch gives you a status
> >
> > Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
> >   Keepalive set (10 sec)
> >   Auto-duplex, Auto-speed
> >
> > even on a router with a port that do duplex changes ( 3640
> > NM-4E )there is
> > no status.
> >
> > I don't have access to a router with a port that permits speed
> > and duplex
> > changes.so I can't compare.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks




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RE: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate)
sam,
I think the 2500 series uses the AUI port for Ethernet, so I think
this is why the hardware doesn't support 100/full. I guess they had to make
sacrifices for flexibility that, in hindsight, probably weren't necessary.
GM

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this is about the comment

" You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex side would
 receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side would send
 whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would report collisions,
assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic."

I hooked up a 2501 eth0 to a 3548 set to full duplex and speed 100.
Interestingly the link light on the router lights up but no the switch. The
switch sees the total link down and would not even bother sending. I plugged
it into an auto-neg port and it obviously worked. Here is the output from
switch.

Cisco3500-3#sh int fa0/17
FastEthernet0/17 is down, line protocol is down
  Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0002.fd45.4b91 (bia 0002.fd45.4b91)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 0 Kbit, DLY 100 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive not set
  Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input never, output never, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1y40w
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
 0 watchdog, 0 multicast
 0 input packets with dribble condition detected
 0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2 interface resets
 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
Cisco3500-3#





""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
news:200211141830.SAA03800@;groupstudy.com...
> The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> >
> > ""John Tafasi""  wrote in message
> > news:200211141056.KAA04663@;groupstudy.com...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How
> > can I find out
> > if
> > > this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?
> >
> > plug it into a full duplex 100 mbs switch port and see if link
> > occurs?
>
> You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex side would
> receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side would send
> whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would report collisions,
> assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic.
>
> I think the best answer is that the 2500 routers pre-date the full-duplex
> standard. I bet they don't do full-duplex.
>
> >
> > seriously, I believe all routers in the 25xx line are 10/half.
> >
> > there is no report on speed and duplex on routers that I can
> > find.
>
> That's annoying. I guess show run would show you a non-default setting,
but
> that's not too helpful.
>
> Priscilla
>
> > show int
> > on a switch gives you a status
> >
> > Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
> >   Keepalive set (10 sec)
> >   Auto-duplex, Auto-speed
> >
> > even on a router with a port that do duplex changes ( 3640
> > NM-4E )there is
> > no status.
> >
> > I don't have access to a router with a port that permits speed
> > and duplex
> > changes.so I can't compare.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks




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Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread Jenny McLeod
The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> 
> ""John Tafasi""  wrote in message
> news:200211141056.KAA04663@;groupstudy.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How
> can I find out
> if
> > this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?
> 
> plug it into a full duplex 100 mbs switch port and see if link
> occurs?
> 
> seriously, I believe all routers in the 25xx line are 10/half.
> 
> there is no report on speed and duplex on routers that I can
> find. show int
> on a switch gives you a status
> 
> Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
>   Keepalive set (10 sec)
>   Auto-duplex, Auto-speed
> 
> even on a router with a port that do duplex changes ( 3640
> NM-4E )there is
> no status.
> 
Interesting - I'd never twigged to this.  A FastEthernet port certainly
gives this information

  Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX

but an ethernet port on the same router (a 3600) doesn't show it.
I'd guess that the code for 'show ethernet' on the routers that do support
full-duplex comes straight from the routers that don't support it ;-)

> I don't have access to a router with a port that permits speed
> and duplex
> changes.so I can't compare.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> 
> 




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Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
sam sneed wrote:
> 
> this is about the comment
> 
> " You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex
> side would
>  receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side
> would send
>  whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would report
> collisions,
> assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic."
> 
> I hooked up a 2501 eth0 to a 3548 set to full duplex and speed
> 100.
> Interestingly the link light on the router lights up but no the
> switch.

That's probably because of the speed mismatch not the duplex mismatch?

In some cases you can get a link light and think everything is fine, when
actually there are problems due to a duplex mismtach.

I don't have the equipment to show you an example, but I know I've seen it.
Needless to say, it makes troubleshooting difficult.

Priscilla

> The
> switch sees the total link down and would not even bother
> sending. I plugged
> it into an auto-neg port and it obviously worked. Here is the
> output from
> switch.
> 
> Cisco3500-3#sh int fa0/17
> FastEthernet0/17 is down, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0002.fd45.4b91 (bia
> 0002.fd45.4b91)
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 0 Kbit, DLY 100 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
>   Keepalive not set
>   Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX
>   ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
>   Last input never, output never, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1y40w
>   Queueing strategy: fifo
>   Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>  0 packets input, 0 bytes
>  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>  0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
>  0 watchdog, 0 multicast
>  0 input packets with dribble condition detected
>  0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
>  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2 interface resets
>  0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
>  0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
>  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> Cisco3500-3#
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in
> message
> news:200211141830.SAA03800@;groupstudy.com...
> > The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> > >
> > > ""John Tafasi""  wrote in message
> > > news:200211141056.KAA04663@;groupstudy.com...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How
> > > can I find out
> > > if
> > > > this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?
> > >
> > > plug it into a full duplex 100 mbs switch port and see if
> link
> > > occurs?
> >
> > You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex
> side would
> > receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side
> would send
> > whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would
> report collisions,
> > assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic.
> >
> > I think the best answer is that the 2500 routers pre-date the
> full-duplex
> > standard. I bet they don't do full-duplex.
> >
> > >
> > > seriously, I believe all routers in the 25xx line are
> 10/half.
> > >
> > > there is no report on speed and duplex on routers that I can
> > > find.
> >
> > That's annoying. I guess show run would show you a
> non-default setting,
> but
> > that's not too helpful.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > > show int
> > > on a switch gives you a status
> > >
> > > Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
> > >   Keepalive set (10 sec)
> > >   Auto-duplex, Auto-speed
> > >
> > > even on a router with a port that do duplex changes ( 3640
> > > NM-4E )there is
> > > no status.
> > >
> > > I don't have access to a router with a port that permits
> speed
> > > and duplex
> > > changes.so I can't compare.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> 
> 




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Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread sam sneed
That was correct. I changed the speed to 10 full duplex and got the link a
both sides.
I just thought it was odd that one side(router) had the link light on but
the switch didn't.


Cisco3500-3#sh int fa0/17
FastEthernet0/17 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0002.fd45.4b91 (bia 0002.fd45.4b91)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive not set
  Full-duplex, 10Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX


""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
news:200211142203.WAA18335@;groupstudy.com...
> sam sneed wrote:
> >
> > this is about the comment
> >
> > " You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex
> > side would
> >  receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side
> > would send
> >  whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would report
> > collisions,
> > assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic."
> >
> > I hooked up a 2501 eth0 to a 3548 set to full duplex and speed
> > 100.
> > Interestingly the link light on the router lights up but no the
> > switch.
>
> That's probably because of the speed mismatch not the duplex mismatch?
>
> In some cases you can get a link light and think everything is fine, when
> actually there are problems due to a duplex mismtach.
>
> I don't have the equipment to show you an example, but I know I've seen
it.
> Needless to say, it makes troubleshooting difficult.
>
> Priscilla
>
> > The
> > switch sees the total link down and would not even bother
> > sending. I plugged
> > it into an auto-neg port and it obviously worked. Here is the
> > output from
> > switch.
> >
> > Cisco3500-3#sh int fa0/17
> > FastEthernet0/17 is down, line protocol is down
> >   Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0002.fd45.4b91 (bia
> > 0002.fd45.4b91)
> >   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 0 Kbit, DLY 100 usec,
> >  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
> >   Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
> >   Keepalive not set
> >   Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX
> >   ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
> >   Last input never, output never, output hang never
> >   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1y40w
> >   Queueing strategy: fifo
> >   Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
> >   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> >   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> >  0 packets input, 0 bytes
> >  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
> >  0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
> >  0 watchdog, 0 multicast
> >  0 input packets with dribble condition detected
> >  0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
> >  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2 interface resets
> >  0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
> >  0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
> >  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> > Cisco3500-3#
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in
> > message
> > news:200211141830.SAA03800@;groupstudy.com...
> > > The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ""John Tafasi""  wrote in message
> > > > news:200211141056.KAA04663@;groupstudy.com...
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How
> > > > can I find out
> > > > if
> > > > > this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?
> > > >
> > > > plug it into a full duplex 100 mbs switch port and see if
> > link
> > > > occurs?
> > >
> > > You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex
> > side would
> > > receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side
> > would send
> > > whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would
> > report collisions,
> > > assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic.
> > >
> > > I think the best answer is that the 2500 routers pre-date the
> > full-duplex
> > > standard. I bet they don't do full-duplex.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > seriously, I believe all routers in the 25xx line are
> > 10/half.
> > > >
> > > > there is no report on speed and duplex on routers that I can
> > > > find.
> > >
> > > That's annoying. I guess show run would show you a
> > non-default setting,
> > but
> > > that's not too helpful.
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > > show int
> > > > on a switch gives you a status
> > > >
> > > > Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
> > > >   Keepalive set (10 sec)
> > > >   Auto-duplex, Auto-speed
> > > >
> > > > even on a router with a port that do duplex changes ( 3640
> > > > NM-4E )there is
> > > > no status.
> > > >
> > > > I don't have access to a router with a port that permits
> > speed
> > > > and duplex
> > > > changes.so I can't compare.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks




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Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-14 Thread MADMAN
Heck when the 2500 was first introduced I don't know if 100M was even
available and even if it was the CPU couldn't handle it.  The 2514 could
not drive it's 2 ethernets!

  Dave

"Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate)" wrote:
> 
> sam,
> I think the 2500 series uses the AUI port for Ethernet, so I think
> this is why the hardware doesn't support 100/full. I guess they had to make
> sacrifices for flexibility that, in hindsight, probably weren't necessary.
> GM
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: sam sneed [mailto:vristevski@;hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 3:21 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]
> 
> this is about the comment
> 
> " You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex side would
>  receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side would send
>  whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would report collisions,
> assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic."
> 
> I hooked up a 2501 eth0 to a 3548 set to full duplex and speed 100.
> Interestingly the link light on the router lights up but no the switch. The
> switch sees the total link down and would not even bother sending. I
plugged
> it into an auto-neg port and it obviously worked. Here is the output from
> switch.
> 
> Cisco3500-3#sh int fa0/17
> FastEthernet0/17 is down, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0002.fd45.4b91 (bia 0002.fd45.4b91)
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 0 Kbit, DLY 100 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
>   Keepalive not set
>   Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX
>   ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
>   Last input never, output never, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1y40w
>   Queueing strategy: fifo
>   Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>  0 packets input, 0 bytes
>  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>  0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
>  0 watchdog, 0 multicast
>  0 input packets with dribble condition detected
>  0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
>  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2 interface resets
>  0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
>  0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
>  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> Cisco3500-3#
> 
> ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
> news:200211141830.SAA03800@;groupstudy.com...
> > The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> > >
> > > ""John Tafasi""  wrote in message
> > > news:200211141056.KAA04663@;groupstudy.com...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have a cisco 2516 router with an ethernet interface. How
> > > can I find out
> > > if
> > > > this inteface is full duplex or half duplex?
> > >
> > > plug it into a full duplex 100 mbs switch port and see if link
> > > occurs?
> >
> > You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex side would
> > receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side would send
> > whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would report
collisions,
> > assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic.
> >
> > I think the best answer is that the 2500 routers pre-date the full-duplex
> > standard. I bet they don't do full-duplex.
> >
> > >
> > > seriously, I believe all routers in the 25xx line are 10/half.
> > >
> > > there is no report on speed and duplex on routers that I can
> > > find.
> >
> > That's annoying. I guess show run would show you a non-default setting,
> but
> > that's not too helpful.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > > show int
> > > on a switch gives you a status
> > >
> > > Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
> > >   Keepalive set (10 sec)
> > >   Auto-duplex, Auto-speed
> > >
> > > even on a router with a port that do duplex changes ( 3640
> > > NM-4E )there is
> > > no status.
> > >
> > > I don't have access to a router with a port that permits speed
> > > and duplex
> > > changes.so I can't compare.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
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Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-15 Thread Mark S
Wow!  Two ethernets!  Bonus!  I once worked on a 2501 and I only had one
ethernet...AND it was AUI!

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Re: full duplex or half duplex, how can you tell [7:57431]

2002-11-18 Thread Marty Adkins
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> sam sneed wrote:
> >
> > this is about the comment
> >
> > " You'd get a link but lots of collisions, eh? The half-duplex
> > side would
> >  receive while it was sending, because the full-duplex side
> > would send
> >  whenever it wanted. In other words, the 2500 side would report
> > collisions,
> > assuming there was enough simultanesous traffic."
> >
> > I hooked up a 2501 eth0 to a 3548 set to full duplex and speed
> > 100.
> > Interestingly the link light on the router lights up but no the
> > switch.
> 
> That's probably because of the speed mismatch not the duplex mismatch?
> 
> In some cases you can get a link light and think everything is fine, when
> actually there are problems due to a duplex mismtach.
> 
Only a speed issue, not a duplex issue.  When the 10/100 side is hard
set to 100Mb so that it doesn't negotiate nor autosense, and the other
side is a legacy 10Mb/half interface, then the 10Mb side will get a
false link indication.  The 100Mb fast link pulses produce enough
energy in the band where the 10Mb interface is looking for them, to
fool it.  The 100Mb side will correctly show no link.  The tip off is
that the 10Mb side sees zero valid input frames in its counters.
The 100Mb transmitter appears to be forever streaming.

- Marty




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