Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-30 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
Kk Greenie. 
The doctor gave me Proclorperazine.   It didn't help me that much but meclizine 
did.   We all have to find what works for us.  Good luck and hang in there. 

Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 18's 🐠🐠

> On Jan 30, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
> wrote:
> 
> Jeanie, I take promethazine 25mg but I cut them in 1/4 because if I take the 
> hole pill in makes me sleepy. 1/2 works better but that puts me into low 
> gear.  But it does take away the nausea.
>  
> greenie
>  
> In a message dated 1/30/2015 7:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
> Hi Greenie 
> Sorry to hear you still have your nausea. 
> Have you tried Meclizine ?   I find it works better than compozine.  My 
> nausea is better since coming off hydrea. 
> I am on my 5th day of ponatinib.I had blood work done yesterday.  
> My WBC came down but the platelets keep going up. Still in the millions 
> (1529) The doctor is baffled but dropped my ponatinib to 2 (15 mg) tablets 
> daily.  
> My skin is drying out and headaches have returned.  This reminds me of 
> Gleevec but it has many side effects.  
> Just have to deal with them as usual. 
> I hope everyone is good this morning. 
> 
> 
> Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 18's 🐠🐠
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2015, at 7:07 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I all the good news was short termed, I woke up yesterday and the nausea 
>> came back so I'm thinking I may have picked up some bug.  Grace she's O.K. 
>> time will tell. So far this morning I feel find but will see our the rest of 
>> the day goes.
>>  
>> greenie
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/29/2015 9:51:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
>> YEAH FOR GOOD NEWS!!!! :) Beth
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Myvety2k via CMLHope 
>> To: cmlhope 
>> Sent: Tue, Jan 27, 2015 4:59 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?
>> 
>> Well, I have good news.  We both woke up today, Grace was O. K. and later on 
>> into the day I'm feeling much better.  Tomorrow well tell the truth.  I'll 
>> let you all know and Thanks for thinking of us both.  We all are one hell of 
>> a team, we should have our own Superbowl..
>>  
>> greenie
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/27/2015 1:32:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.comwrites:
>> maybe you both have a bit of a virus or bug? Hope that's all it is and you 
>> both will feel better soon. It does seem odd when all of a sudden after so 
>> many years you get a symptom like nausea.
>> Be well...thinking of you and everyone else today...
>> 
>> Beth
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Myvety2k via CMLHope 
>> To: cmlhope 
>> Sent: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:09 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?
>> 
>> Hi Beth, I'm starting to think it's not the Gleevec that's given me the 
>> nausea because my wife started to get the nausea also.  Could be Florida 
>> weather, tree's, flowers, etc.
>>  
>> greenie
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:05:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
>> Greenie, Remember, if you do need to swap a TKILots of good options with 
>> low doses because you have done so well for so long on Gleevec...you are a 
>> warrior. My blood counts are O.K...but I appreciate the anxiety of all this 
>> for all of us..it's one of the harder parts to manage well. Good luck to 
>> you! Beth
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Joan 
>> To: cmlhope 
>> Sent: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:01 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?
>> 
>> Greenie,
>> I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my kidneys. Now I take 
>> Tasinga.
>> Joan
>> 
>>> On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>>> Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on Gleevec for 15 years and 
>>> 14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm having nausea problems.  
>>> I'm taking some promethazine that helps some what but it's not a fun thing. 
>>>  I have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem before when we 
>>> lived in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
>>> day for a little more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
>>> someone tu

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-30 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Jeanie, I take promethazine 25mg but I cut them in 1/4 because  if I take 
the hole pill in makes me sleepy. 1/2 works better but that puts me  into low 
gear.  But it does take away the nausea.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/2015 7:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:

Hi Greenie 
Sorry to hear you still have your nausea. 
Have you tried Meclizine ?   I find it works better than compozine.  My 
nausea is better since coming off hydrea. 
I am on my 5th day of ponatinib.I had blood work done  yesterday.  
My WBC came down but the platelets keep going up. Still in the millions  
(1529) The doctor is baffled but dropped my ponatinib to 2 (15 mg) tablets  
daily.  
My skin is drying out and headaches have returned.  This reminds me  of 
Gleevec but it has many side effects.  
Just have to deal with them as usual. 
I hope everyone is good this morning. 



Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 18's 🐠🐠

On Jan 30, 2015, at 7:07 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope 
<_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >  wrote:



 
I all the good news was short termed, I woke up yesterday  and the nausea 
came back so I'm thinking I may have picked up some  bug.  Grace she's O.K. 
time will tell. So far this morning I feel find  but will see our the rest of 
the day goes.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/29/2015 9:51:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com)   writes:

YEAH FOR GOOD NEWS :)  Beth


-Original  Message-
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope <_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ 
(mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >
To:  cmlhope <_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >
Sent:  Tue, Jan 27, 2015 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had  relapse after 5 years on tkis?


 
Well, I have good news.  We both woke up today,  Grace was O. K. and later 
on into the day I'm feeling much better.   Tomorrow well tell the truth.  
I'll let you all know and Thanks for  thinking of us both.  We all are one 
hell of a team, we  should have our own Superbowl..
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/27/2015 1:32:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com)   writes:

maybe you both have a bit  of a virus or bug? Hope that's all it is and you 
both will feel better  soon. It does seem odd when all of a sudden after so 
many years you get  a symptom like nausea.
Be well...thinking of you and everyone else  today...  


Beth

-Original  Message-
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope <_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ 
(mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >
To:  cmlhope <_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >
Sent:  Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had  relapse after 5 years on tkis?


 
Hi Beth, I'm starting to think it's not the Gleevec  that's given me the 
nausea because my wife started to get the nausea  also.  Could be Florida 
weather, tree's, flowers, etc. 
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:05:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com)   writes:

Greenie, Remember, if  you do need to swap a TKILots of good options 
with low doses  because you have done so well for so long on Gleevec...you are 
a  warrior. My blood counts are O.K...but I appreciate the anxiety of all  
this for all of us..it's one of the harder parts to manage well. Good  luck 
to you! Beth


-Original  Message-
From: Joan <_lilako19@gmail.com_ (mailto:lilak...@gmail.com) >
To:  cmlhope <_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >
Sent:  Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone  had relapse after 5 years on tkis?


 
Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with  my kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.  
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6,  greenie wrote:  
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've  been on Gleevec for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the  last 4 days I'm having nausea problems.  
I'm taking some  promethazine that helps some what but it's not a fun thing.  
I  have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem before  when we 
lived in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with  nausea every 
day for a little more then 2 years then I awoke one  morning and it was like 
someone turned off the switch and it was  gone.  This time of the year it's 
not hot here so I know that's  not what caused this problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or  two to clean out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.   I did this before about 6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and  the doctor back in Indiana put me on and 
anabolic that interfered  with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  
After  getting blood work som

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-30 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
Hi Greenie 
Sorry to hear you still have your nausea. 
Have you tried Meclizine ?   I find it works better than compozine.  My nausea 
is better since coming off hydrea. 
I am on my 5th day of ponatinib.I had blood work done yesterday.  
My WBC came down but the platelets keep going up. Still in the millions (1529) 
The doctor is baffled but dropped my ponatinib to 2 (15 mg) tablets daily.  
My skin is drying out and headaches have returned.  This reminds me of Gleevec 
but it has many side effects.  
Just have to deal with them as usual. 
I hope everyone is good this morning. 


Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 18's 🐠🐠

> On Jan 30, 2015, at 7:07 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
> wrote:
> 
> I all the good news was short termed, I woke up yesterday and the nausea came 
> back so I'm thinking I may have picked up some bug.  Grace she's O.K. time 
> will tell. So far this morning I feel find but will see our the rest of the 
> day goes.
>  
> greenie
>  
> In a message dated 1/29/2015 9:51:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
> YEAH FOR GOOD NEWS :) Beth
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Myvety2k via CMLHope 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Tue, Jan 27, 2015 4:59 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?
> 
> Well, I have good news.  We both woke up today, Grace was O. K. and later on 
> into the day I'm feeling much better.  Tomorrow well tell the truth.  I'll 
> let you all know and Thanks for thinking of us both.  We all are one hell of 
> a team, we should have our own Superbowl..
>  
> greenie
>  
> In a message dated 1/27/2015 1:32:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
> maybe you both have a bit of a virus or bug? Hope that's all it is and you 
> both will feel better soon. It does seem odd when all of a sudden after so 
> many years you get a symptom like nausea.
> Be well...thinking of you and everyone else today...
> 
> Beth
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Myvety2k via CMLHope 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?
> 
> Hi Beth, I'm starting to think it's not the Gleevec that's given me the 
> nausea because my wife started to get the nausea also.  Could be Florida 
> weather, tree's, flowers, etc.
>  
> greenie
>  
> In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:05:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
> Greenie, Remember, if you do need to swap a TKILots of good options with 
> low doses because youhave done so well for so long on Gleevec...you 
> are a warrior. My blood counts are O.K...but I appreciate the anxiety of all 
> this for all of us..it's one of the harder parts to manage well. Good luck to 
> you! Beth
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Joan 
> To: cmlhope 
> Sent: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?
> 
> Greenie,
> I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my kidneys. Now I take 
> Tasinga.
> Joan
> 
>> On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>> Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on Gleevec for 15 years and 
>> 14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm having nausea problems.  I'm 
>> taking some promethazine that helps some what but it's not a fun thing.  I 
>> have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem before when we 
>> lived in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
>> day for a little more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
>> someone turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's 
>> not hot here so I know that's not what caused this problem.
>>  
>> I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to clean out my system 
>> and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this before about 6 years ago 
>> when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in Indiana put me on and 
>> anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  
>> After getting blood work some cancer cells did show back up in my blood work 
>> but after stating Gleevec again the next test showed that I was clean again. 
>>  
>> My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a call and said 
>> "well if it worked before it will work again" and that was that.  So I have 
>> my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, 
>> my heart goes out to the women that have babies and have to put up w

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-30 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
I all the good news was short termed, I woke up yesterday and  the nausea 
came back so I'm thinking I may have picked up some bug.  Grace  she's O.K. 
time will tell. So far this morning I feel find but will see our the  rest of 
the day goes.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/29/2015 9:51:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:

YEAH FOR GOOD NEWS :) Beth


-Original  Message-
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope  
To: cmlhope  
Sent: Tue, Jan 27, 2015 4:59  pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on  tkis?


 
Well, I have good news.  We both woke up today, Grace  was O. K. and later 
on into the day I'm feeling much better.  Tomorrow  well tell the truth.  
I'll let you all know and Thanks for thinking of us  both.  We all are one 
hell of a team, we should have our own  Superbowl..
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/27/2015 1:32:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com)   writes:

maybe you both have a bit of a virus or bug?  Hope that's all it is and you 
both will feel better soon. It does seem odd  when all of a sudden after so 
many years you get a symptom like  nausea.
Be well...thinking of you and everyone else today...  


Beth

-Original  Message-
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope <_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ 
(mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >
To:  cmlhope <_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >
Sent:  Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had  relapse after 5 years on tkis?


 
Hi Beth, I'm starting to think it's not the Gleevec that's  given me the 
nausea because my wife started to get the nausea also.   Could be Florida 
weather, tree's, flowers, etc. 
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:05:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com)   writes:

Greenie, Remember, if you  do need to swap a TKILots of good options 
with low doses because you  have done so well for so long on Gleevec...you are 
a warrior. My blood  counts are O.K...but I appreciate the anxiety of all 
this for all of  us..it's one of the harder parts to manage well. Good luck 
to you!  Beth


-Original  Message-
From: Joan <_lilako19@gmail.com_ (mailto:lilak...@gmail.com) >
To: cmlhope  <_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >
Sent:  Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had  relapse after 5 years on tkis?


 
Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my  kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.  
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6,  greenie wrote:  
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on  Gleevec for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm  having nausea problems.  
I'm taking some promethazine that helps  some what but it's not a fun thing.  
I have no idea what started it  either.  I had this problem before when we 
lived in Springfield,  MO. I got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
day for a little  more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
someone  turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's  
not hot here so I know that's not what caused this problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to  clean out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this  before about 6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and the doctor  back in Indiana put me on and 
anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec  so we stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  
After getting blood work some  cancer cells did show back up in my blood 
work but after stating Gleevec  again the next test showed that I was clean 
again.  
 
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave  me a call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work again" and  that was that.  So I have 
my fingers crossed to see what  happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, 
my heart goes out to  the women that have babies and have to put up with 
nausea.  I just  hope it's the Gleevec again and not something else.  My blood 
 counts are O. K. so I'm not worried about that.  This does not help  my 
anxiety problems
 
Will keep you all up to date as how things  go.
 
greenie
 




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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-29 Thread bkbarney via CMLHope
YEAH FOR GOOD NEWS :) Beth



-Original Message-
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope 
To: cmlhope 
Sent: Tue, Jan 27, 2015 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?



Well, I have good news.  We both woke up today, Grace was O. K. and later on 
into the day I'm feeling much better.  Tomorrow well tell the truth.  I'll let 
you all know and Thanks for thinking of us both.  We all are one hell of a 
team, we should have our own Superbowl..
 
greenie
 

In a message dated 1/27/2015 1:32:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
maybe you both have a bit of a virus or bug?   Hope that's all it is and you 
both will feel better soon. It does seem odd   when all of a sudden after so 
many years you get a symptom like nausea.
Be   well...thinking of you and everyone else today...   


  
Beth

  
-Original   Message-
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope   
To: cmlhope   
Sent: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:09   pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on   tkis?

  
  
  
Hi Beth, I'm starting to think it's not the Gleevec that's   given me the 
nausea because my wife started to get the nausea also.Could be Florida 
weather, tree's, flowers, etc. 
  
 
  
greenie
  
 
  
  
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:05:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
cmlhope@googlegroups.com   writes:
  
Greenie, Remember, if you do need to swap a TKILots of good options 
with low doses because you have done so well for so long on Gleevec...you 
are a warrior. My blood counts are O.K...but I appreciate the anxiety of 
all this for all of us..it's one of the harder parts to manage well. Good 
luck to you! Beth



-Original Message-
From: Joan 
To: cmlhope 
Sent:     Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?




Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga. 
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote: 
  
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on   Gleevec for 15 years 
and 14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm   having nausea 
problems.  I'm taking some promethazine that helps some   what but it's not 
a fun thing.  I have no idea what started it   either.  I had this problem 
before when we lived in Springfield, MO.   I got over heated and got hit 
with nausea every day for a little more then   2 years then I awoke one 
morning and it was like someone turned off the   switch and it was gone.  
This time of the year it's not hot here so I   know that's not what caused 
this problem.
  
 
  
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to   clean out my 
system and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this   before about 6 
years ago when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back   in Indiana put 
me on and anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we   stopped Gleevec 
for 26 days.  After getting blood work some cancer   cells did show back up 
in my blood work but after stating Gleevec again   the next test showed 
that I was clean again.  
  
 
  
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me   a call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work again" and that was   that.  So I 
have my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I   can't stand this nausea 
problem, my heart goes out to the women that have   babies and have to put 
up with nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec   again and not something 
else.  My blood counts are O. K. so I'm not   worried about that.  This 
does not help my anxiety   problems
  
 
  
Will keep you all up to date as how things   go.
  
 
  
greenie
  
 


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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-27 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Well, I have good news.  We both woke up today, Grace was  O. K. and later 
on into the day I'm feeling much better.  Tomorrow well  tell the truth.  
I'll let you all know and Thanks for thinking of us  both.  We all are one 
hell of a team, we should have our own  Superbowl..
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/27/2015 1:32:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:

maybe you both have a bit of a virus or bug?  Hope that's all it is and you 
both will feel better soon. It does seem odd  when all of a sudden after so 
many years you get a symptom like nausea.
Be  well...thinking of you and everyone else today...  


Beth

-Original  Message-
From: Myvety2k via CMLHope  
To: cmlhope  
Sent: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:09  pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on  tkis?


 
Hi Beth, I'm starting to think it's not the Gleevec that's  given me the 
nausea because my wife started to get the nausea also.   Could be Florida 
weather, tree's, flowers, etc. 
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:05:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com)   writes:

Greenie, Remember, if you do need to swap a  TKILots of good options 
with low doses because you have done so well for  so long on Gleevec...you are 
a warrior. My blood counts are O.K...but I  appreciate the anxiety of all 
this for all of us..it's one of the harder  parts to manage well. Good luck 
to you! Beth


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From: Joan <_lilako19@gmail.com_ (mailto:lilak...@gmail.com) >
To: cmlhope  <_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >
Sent:  Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had  relapse after 5 years on tkis?


 
Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my  kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.  
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie  wrote:  
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on  Gleevec for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm  having nausea problems.  
I'm taking some promethazine that helps some  what but it's not a fun thing.  
I have no idea what started it  either.  I had this problem before when we 
lived in Springfield, MO.  I got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
day for a little more then  2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
someone turned off the  switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's 
not hot here so I  know that's not what caused this problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to  clean out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this  before about 6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back  in Indiana put me on and 
anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we  stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  
After getting blood work some cancer  cells did show back up in my blood 
work but after stating Gleevec again  the next test showed that I was clean 
again.  
 
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me  a call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work again" and that was  that.  So I have 
my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I  can't stand this nausea problem, 
my heart goes out to the women that have  babies and have to put up with 
nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec  again and not something else.  My blood 
counts are O. K. so I'm not  worried about that.  This does not help my 
anxiety  problems
 
Will keep you all up to date as how things  go.
 
greenie
 




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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-27 Thread bkbarney via CMLHope
maybe you both have a bit of a virus or bug? Hope that's all it is and you both 
will feel better soon. It does seem odd when all of a sudden after so many 
years you get a symptom like nausea.
Be well...thinking of you and everyone else today...


Beth


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From: Myvety2k via CMLHope 
To: cmlhope 
Sent: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?



Hi Beth, I'm starting to think it's not the Gleevec that's given me the nausea 
because my wife started to get the nausea also.  Could be Florida weather, 
tree's, flowers, etc. 
 
greenie
 

In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:05:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
Greenie, Remember, if you do need to swap a   TKILots of good options with 
low doses because you have done so well for   so long on Gleevec...you are a 
warrior. My blood counts are O.K...but I   appreciate the anxiety of all this 
for all of us..it's one of the harder parts   to manage well. Good luck to you! 
Beth


  
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From: Joan 
To: cmlhope   
Sent: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:01   pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on   tkis?

  
  
  
Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my   kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.   
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie   wrote:   

Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on Gleevec for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm having nausea problems.  
I'm taking some promethazine that helps some what but it's not a fun thing. 
 I have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem before when we 
lived in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
day for a little more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
someone turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's 
not hot here so I know that's not what caused this problem.

 

I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to clean out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this before about 6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in Indiana put me on and 
anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec for 26 days. 
 After getting blood work some cancer cells did show back up in my blood 
work but after stating Gleevec again the next test showed that I was clean 
again.  

 

My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work again" and that was that.  So I have 
my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, 
my heart goes out to the women that have babies and have to put up with 
nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec again and not something else.  My 
blood counts are O. K. so I'm not worried about that.  This does not help 
my anxiety problems

 

Will keep you all up to date as how things go.

 

greenie

 

  
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-27 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
The problem is no one really knows how these drugs affect our tkis.  They told 
me the drugs I was taking were ok with ponatinib.I was told not to get any 
vaccinations.  
It is a hot and miss for sure. 

Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 18's 🐠🐠

> On Jan 27, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I did get my flu shot in September, plus last week when I saw my regular 
> doctor here he gave me a Prevnar-13 shot.  I hope that is not the reason I'm 
> having the nausea problem.  He, said that he checked is computer to make sure 
> it would not interfere with my Gleevec.  Good luck on that one.
>  
> greenie 
>  
> In a message dated 1/27/2015 7:39:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
> Do you get your flu shots?
> They tell us to stay away from crowds--but how is that possible?
> Drink lots of fluids and stay warm. 
> 
> 
> Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 18's 🐠🐠
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Boy, I hope so like the rest of us with CML we don't need any other 
>> problems.  One of the problems down here in Florida you have a lot of people 
>> that come down here for the winter and some of them are sick and they bring 
>> that with them when they arrive.  We carry hand wipes everywhere we go but 
>> you can't say locked up in your home all winter.
>>  
>>  
>> greenie
>>  
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/27/2015 6:41:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
>> Hi Greenie, sounds like a flu--a lot is going around now.
>> Hang in there!
>> Jeanie<3
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:06:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
>> Hi Joan, I don't know what's going on because a few days later Grace started 
>> to get nausea also and we don't have the flu.  No fever, etc. just a little 
>> nausea, haft to give it a few more days and see what happens.
>>  
>> greenie
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> lilak...@gmail.com writes:
>> Greenie,
>> I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my kidneys. Now I take 
>> Tasinga.
>> Joan
>> 
>>> On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>>> Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on Gleevec for 15 years and 
>>> 14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm having nausea problems.  
>>> I'm taking some promethazine that helps some what but it's not a fun thing. 
>>>  I have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem before when we 
>>> lived in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
>>> day for a little more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
>>> someone turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's 
>>> not hot here so I know that's not what caused this problem.
>>>  
>>> I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to clean out my system 
>>> and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this before about 6 years ago 
>>> when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in Indiana put me on and 
>>> anabolic that interfered  with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec 
>>> for 26 days.  After getting blood work some cancer cells did show back up 
>>> in my blood work but after stating Gleevec again the next test showed that 
>>> I was clean again.  
>>>  
>>> My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a call and said 
>>> "well if it worked before it will work again" and that was that.  So I have 
>>> my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, 
>>> my heart goes out to the women that have babies and have to put up with 
>>> nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec again and not something else.  My 
>>> blood counts are O. K. so I'm not worried about that.  This does not help 
>>> my anxiety problems
>>>  
>>> Will keep you all up to date as how things go.
>>>  
>>> greenie
>> 
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-27 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Yes, I did get my flu shot in September, plus last week when I  saw my 
regular doctor here he gave me a Prevnar-13 shot.  I hope that is  not the 
reason I'm having the nausea problem.  He, said that he  checked is computer to 
make sure it would not interfere with my  Gleevec.  Good luck on that one.
 
greenie 
 
 
In a message dated 1/27/2015 7:39:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:

Do you get your flu shots?
They tell us to stay away from crowds--but how is that possible?
Drink lots of fluids and stay warm. 


Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 18's 🐠🐠

On Jan 27, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope 
<_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) >  wrote:



 
Boy, I hope so like the rest of us with CML we don't need  any other 
problems.  One of the problems down here in Florida you have  a lot of people 
that 
come down here for the winter and some of them are  sick and they bring 
that with them when they arrive.  We carry  hand wipes everywhere we go but you 
can't say locked up in your home all  winter.
 
 
greenie
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/27/2015 6:41:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com)   writes:

Hi Greenie, sounds like a flu--a lot is going around now.
Hang in there!
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:06:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com)   writes:

Hi Joan, I don't know what's going on because a few  days later Grace 
started to get nausea also and we don't have the  flu.  No fever, etc. just a 
little nausea, haft to give it a few  more days and see what happens.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_lilako19@gmail.com_ (mailto:lilak...@gmail.com)  writes:

 
Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with  my kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.  
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6,  greenie wrote:  
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've  been on Gleevec for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the  last 4 days I'm having nausea problems.  
I'm taking some  promethazine that helps some what but it's not a fun thing.  
I  have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem before  when we 
lived in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with  nausea every 
day for a little more then 2 years then I awoke one  morning and it was like 
someone turned off the switch and it was  gone.  This time of the year it's 
not hot here so I know that's  not what caused this problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or  two to clean out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.   I did this before about 6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and  the doctor back in Indiana put me on and 
anabolic that interfered  with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  
After  getting blood work some cancer cells did show back up in my blood  
work but after stating Gleevec again the next test showed that I was  clean 
again.  
 
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he  gave me a call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work  again" and that was that.  So I have 
my fingers crossed to  see what happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, 
my heart  goes out to the women that have babies and have to put up with  
nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec again and not something  else.  My 
blood counts are O. K. so I'm not worried about  that.  This does not help my 
anxiety problems
 
Will keep you all up to date as how things  go.
 
greenie
 



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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-27 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
Do you get your flu shots?
They tell us to stay away from crowds--but how is that possible?
Drink lots of fluids and stay warm. 


Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 18's 🐠🐠

> On Jan 27, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
> wrote:
> 
> Boy, I hope so like the rest of us with CML we don't need any other problems. 
>  One of the problems down here in Florida you have a lot of people that come 
> down here for the winter and some of them are sick and they bring that with 
> them when they arrive.  We carry hand wipes everywhere we go but you can't 
> say locked up in your home all winter.
>  
>  
> greenie
>  
>  
> In a message dated 1/27/2015 6:41:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
> Hi Greenie, sounds like a flu--a lot is going around now.
> Hang in there!
> Jeanie<3
>  
> In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:06:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
> Hi Joan, I don't know what's going on because a few days later Grace started 
> to get nausea also and we don't have the flu.  No fever, etc. just a little 
> nausea, haft to give it a few more days and see what happens.
>  
> greenie
>  
> In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> lilak...@gmail.com writes:
> Greenie,
> I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my kidneys. Now I take 
> Tasinga.
> Joan
> 
>> On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>> Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on Gleevec for 15 years and 
>> 14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm having nausea problems.  I'm 
>> taking some promethazine that helps some what but it's not a fun thing.  I 
>> have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem before when we 
>> lived in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
>> day for a little more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
>> someone turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's 
>> not hot here so I know that's not what caused this problem.
>>  
>> I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to clean out my system 
>> and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this before about 6 years ago 
>> when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in Indiana put me on and 
>> anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  
>> After getting blood work some cancer cells did show back up in my blood work 
>> but after stating Gleevec again the next test showed that I was clean again. 
>>  
>> My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a call and said 
>> "well if it worked before it will work again" and that was that.  So I have 
>> my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, 
>> my heart goes out to the women that have babies and have to put up with 
>> nausea.  I just  hope it's the Gleevec again and not something else. 
>>  My blood counts are O. K. so I'm not worried about that.  This does not 
>> help my anxiety problems
>>  
>> Will keep you all up to date as how things go.
>>  
>> greenie
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-27 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Boy, I hope so like the rest of us with CML we don't need any  other 
problems.  One of the problems down here in Florida you have a lot of  people 
that 
come down here for the winter and some of them are sick and  they bring 
that with them when they arrive.  We carry hand wipes  everywhere we go but you 
can't say locked up in your home all  winter.
 
 
greenie
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/27/2015 6:41:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:

Hi Greenie, sounds like a flu--a lot is going around now.
Hang in there!
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:06:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:

Hi Joan, I don't know what's going on because a few days  later Grace 
started to get nausea also and we don't have the flu.  No  fever, etc. just a 
little nausea, haft to give it a few more days and see  what happens.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
lilak...@gmail.com writes:

 
Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my  kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.  
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6,  greenie wrote:  
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on  Gleevec for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm  having nausea problems.  
I'm taking some promethazine that helps  some what but it's not a fun thing.  
I have no idea what started it  either.  I had this problem before when we 
lived in Springfield,  MO. I got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
day for a little  more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
someone  turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's  
not hot here so I know that's not what caused this problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to  clean out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this  before about 6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and the doctor  back in Indiana put me on and 
anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec  so we stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  
After getting blood work some  cancer cells did show back up in my blood 
work but after stating Gleevec  again the next test showed that I was clean 
again.  
 
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave  me a call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work again" and  that was that.  So I have 
my fingers crossed to see what  happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, 
my heart goes out to  the women that have babies and have to put up with 
nausea.  I just  hope it's the Gleevec again and not something else.  My blood 
 counts are O. K. so I'm not worried about that.  This does not help  my 
anxiety problems
 
Will keep you all up to date as how things  go.
 
greenie
 



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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-27 Thread ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope
Good luck on Tasigna Joan!
 
Blessings And Prayers 18's Love

 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:01:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
lilak...@gmail.com writes:

 
Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my  kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.  
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie  wrote:  
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on  Gleevec for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm  having nausea problems.  
I'm taking some promethazine that helps some  what but it's not a fun thing.  
I have no idea what started it  either.  I had this problem before when we 
lived in Springfield, MO. I  got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
day for a little more then 2  years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
someone turned off the switch  and it was gone.  This time of the year it's 
not hot here so I know  that's not what caused this problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to  clean out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this  before about 6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in  Indiana put me on and 
anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped  Gleevec for 26 days.  
After getting blood work some cancer cells did  show back up in my blood 
work but after stating Gleevec again the next test  showed that I was clean 
again.  
 
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a  call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work again" and that was  that.  So I have 
my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I  can't stand this nausea problem, 
my heart goes out to the women that have  babies and have to put up with 
nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec  again and not something else.  My blood 
counts are O. K. so I'm not  worried about that.  This does not help my 
anxiety  problems
 
Will keep you all up to date as how things  go.
 
greenie
 



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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-27 Thread ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope
Hi Greenie, sounds like a flu--a lot is going around now.
Hang in there!
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:06:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:

Hi Joan, I don't know what's going on because a few days  later Grace 
started to get nausea also and we don't have the flu.  No  fever, etc. just a 
little nausea, haft to give it a few more days and see what  happens.
 
greenie
 
 
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Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my  kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.  
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie  wrote:  
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on  Gleevec for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm  having nausea problems.  
I'm taking some promethazine that helps some  what but it's not a fun thing.  
I have no idea what started it  either.  I had this problem before when we 
lived in Springfield, MO.  I got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
day for a little more then  2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
someone turned off the  switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's 
not hot here so I  know that's not what caused this problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to  clean out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this  before about 6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back  in Indiana put me on and 
anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we  stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  
After getting blood work some cancer  cells did show back up in my blood 
work but after stating Gleevec again  the next test showed that I was clean 
again.  
 
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me  a call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work again" and that was  that.  So I have 
my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I  can't stand this nausea problem, 
my heart goes out to the women that have  babies and have to put up with 
nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec  again and not something else.  My blood 
counts are O. K. so I'm not  worried about that.  This does not help my 
anxiety  problems
 
Will keep you all up to date as how things  go.
 
greenie
 



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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-26 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Hi Beth, I'm starting to think it's not the Gleevec that's  given me the 
nausea because my wife started to get the nausea also.  Could  be Florida 
weather, tree's, flowers, etc. 
 
greenie
 
 
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Greenie, Remember, if you do need to swap a  TKILots of good options 
with low doses because you have done so well for  so long on Gleevec...you are 
a warrior. My blood counts are O.K...but I  appreciate the anxiety of all 
this for all of us..it's one of the harder parts  to manage well. Good luck 
to you! Beth


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To: cmlhope  
Sent: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:01  pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on  tkis?


 
Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my  kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.  
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie  wrote:  
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on  Gleevec for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm  having nausea problems.  
I'm taking some promethazine that helps some  what but it's not a fun thing.  
I have no idea what started it  either.  I had this problem before when we 
lived in Springfield, MO. I  got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
day for a little more then 2  years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
someone turned off the switch  and it was gone.  This time of the year it's 
not hot here so I know  that's not what caused this problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to  clean out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this  before about 6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in  Indiana put me on and 
anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped  Gleevec for 26 days.  
After getting blood work some cancer cells did  show back up in my blood 
work but after stating Gleevec again the next test  showed that I was clean 
again.  
 
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a  call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work again" and that was  that.  So I have 
my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I  can't stand this nausea problem, 
my heart goes out to the women that have  babies and have to put up with 
nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec  again and not something else.  My blood 
counts are O. K. so I'm not  worried about that.  This does not help my 
anxiety  problems
 
Will keep you all up to date as how things  go.
 
greenie
 




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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-26 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Hi Joan, I don't know what's going on because a few days later  Grace 
started to get nausea also and we don't have the flu.  No fever, etc.  just a 
little nausea, haft to give it a few more days and see what  happens.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2015 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
lilak...@gmail.com writes:

 
Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my  kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.  
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie  wrote:  
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on  Gleevec for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm  having nausea problems.  
I'm taking some promethazine that helps some  what but it's not a fun thing.  
I have no idea what started it  either.  I had this problem before when we 
lived in Springfield, MO. I  got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
day for a little more then 2  years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
someone turned off the switch  and it was gone.  This time of the year it's 
not hot here so I know  that's not what caused this problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to  clean out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this  before about 6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in  Indiana put me on and 
anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped  Gleevec for 26 days.  
After getting blood work some cancer cells did  show back up in my blood 
work but after stating Gleevec again the next test  showed that I was clean 
again.  
 
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a  call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work again" and that was  that.  So I have 
my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I  can't stand this nausea problem, 
my heart goes out to the women that have  babies and have to put up with 
nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec  again and not something else.  My blood 
counts are O. K. so I'm not  worried about that.  This does not help my 
anxiety  problems
 
Will keep you all up to date as how things  go.
 
greenie
 



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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-26 Thread bkbarney via CMLHope
Greenie, Remember, if you do need to swap a TKILots of good options with 
low doses because you have done so well for so long on Gleevec...you are a 
warrior. My blood counts are O.K...but I appreciate the anxiety of all this for 
all of us..it's one of the harder parts to manage well. Good luck to you! Beth



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From: Joan 
To: cmlhope 
Sent: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?



Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:

Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on Gleevec for 15 years and 14 
days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm having nausea problems.  I'm 
taking some promethazine that helps some what but it's not a fun thing.  I have 
no idea what started it either.  I had this problem before when we lived in 
Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with nausea every day for a 
little more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like someone 
turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's not hot here 
so I know that's not what caused this problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to clean out my system and 
hope that I get back to normal.  I did this before about 6 years ago when I had 
a sinus infection and the doctor back in Indiana put me on and anabolic that 
interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  After getting 
blood work some cancer cells did show back up in my blood work but after 
stating Gleevec again the next test showed that I was clean again.  
 
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a call and said "well 
if it worked before it will work again" and that was that.  So I have my 
fingers crossed to see what happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, my 
heart goes out to the women that have babies and have to put up with nausea.  I 
just hope it's the Gleevec again and not something else.  My blood counts are 
O. K. so I'm not worried about that.  This does not help my anxiety problems
 
Will keep you all up to date as how things go.
 
greenie
 


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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-26 Thread Joan
Greenie,
I had to quit Gleevec because it was messing with my kidneys. Now I take 
Tasinga.
Joan

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>
>  Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on Gleevec for 15 years 
> and 14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm having nausea 
> problems.  I'm taking some promethazine that helps some what but it's not a 
> fun thing.  I have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem 
> before when we lived in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with 
> nausea every day for a little more then 2 years then I awoke one morning 
> and it was like someone turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time 
> of the year it's not hot here so I know that's not what caused this problem.
>  
> I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to clean out my system 
> and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this before about 6 years ago 
> when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in Indiana put me on and 
> anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec for 26 
> days.  After getting blood work some cancer cells did show back up in my 
> blood work but after stating Gleevec again the next test showed that I was 
> clean again.  
>  
> My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a call and said 
> "well if it worked before it will work again" and that was that.  So I have 
> my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, 
> my heart goes out to the women that have babies and have to put up with 
> nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec again and not something else.  My 
> blood counts are O. K. so I'm not worried about that.  This does not help 
> my anxiety problems
>  
> Will keep you all up to date as how things go.
>  
> greenie
>  
>

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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-24 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
Hi Richard and hang in there.   I wake up with nausea every morning which I 
think is the hydrea.  Do you eat a big meal with gleevec?  I know I had to and 
no spicy foods.  Your success on gleevec has been great.  It quit on me after 5 
years.  You could just have a bug.  
Good luck and blessings. 
Jeanie

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> On Jan 24, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on Gleevec for 15 years and 14 
> days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm having nausea problems.  I'm 
> taking some promethazine that helps some what but it's not a fun thing.  I 
> have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem before when we lived 
> in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with nausea every day for a 
> little more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like someone 
> turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's not hot 
> here so I know that's not what caused this problem.
>  
> I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to clean out my system 
> and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this before about 6 years ago when 
> I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in Indiana put me on and anabolic 
> that interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  After 
> getting blood work some cancer cells did show back up in my blood work but 
> after stating Gleevec again the next test showed that I was clean again. 
>  
> My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a call and said 
> "well if it worked before it will work again" and that was that.  So I have 
> my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, 
> my heart goes out to the women that have babies and have to put up with 
> nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec again and not something else.  My blood 
> counts are O. K. so I'm not worried about that.  This does not help my 
> anxiety problems
>  
> Will keep you all up to date as how things go.
>  
> greenie
>  
> In a message dated 1/23/2015 11:35:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> rbhuffm...@gmail.com writes:
> Seventeen and on my first adventure  this wonderful world we live in.
> 
> Richard H. 
> 
>> On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 5:38:47 AM UTC-6, Icandoallttc wrote:
>> That's cute Richard--how old were you?
>> My IV went in good-no swelling.  
>> This morning I am sick-- sore throat and mucus.  
>> Glad everything went good Sherri but couldn't they give you something for 
>> pain??
>> Blessings Jeanie 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Richard H  wrote:
>> 
>> May I add my sea story of needles,  I don't like needles but do not have a 
>> phobia.  When I arrived  at boot camp the first thing was get our shots. We 
>> walked through a line getting shots in both arms as mentioned.  They were 
>> using hugh syringes and had large pillows with the needles that was changed 
>> while we were stepping in front of them. Someone was calling a slow cadence 
>> of step, step. As each recruit stepped He was given a shot in each arm.  All 
>> of a sudden the corpsman I was getting ready to step in front of yelled 
>> "BRING BACK MY NEEDLE."  The recruit in fount of me had it hanging in his 
>> arm.  When I received the 4 pricks for allergy testing I then had to sit in 
>> the dentist chair I promptly passed out. 
>> 
>> Richard H.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:50:17 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>> Jeanie, Needles lord knows I hate them.  The first time I had a blood test 
>> it was to get married.  My  Doctor lived 3 blocks away form me and I worked 
>> for him when I was in High School.  They did the blood work and he walked in 
>> after and took one look at me and he put is hand behind my head and pushed 
>> it down and told me to pushed as hard as I could to keep me from passing out.
>>  
>> Then when I went into the Navy I was on active duty for a year and a haft 
>> they found out that I didn't get any of my shots.  Well you know what 
>> happened then, I received them all at once, both arms.  So years go by and I 
>> end up with CML and we all know about needles.  Yes, some are good and some 
>> are bad.  I had to get blood work this Monday and I think the lady took the 
>> needle outside and scraped it on the pavement plus I think it was square and 
>> bent. I think it when through my arm and out the other side.
>>  
>> And the first BMB all they gave me it was so much fun that I asked them to 
>> do another one. Ha, Ha.  After about 10 or 11 of them I asked to be put into 
>> lala land which they did but I had to have someone drive me home.  My wife 
>> has to give me a shot of testosterone every two weeks, the needle is 1/1/2 
>> in long another fun shot.  So for me they do the molecular blood work and no 
>> more BMB.  Thank you.
>>  
>> Take care and hang in their,
>>  
>> greenie
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/22/2015 6:08:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> cml...@go

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-24 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on Gleevec  for 15 years and 
14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm having nausea  problems.  
I'm taking some promethazine that helps some what but it's not a  fun thing.  
I have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem  before when we 
lived in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with  nausea every 
day for a little more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it  was like 
someone turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time of the  year it's 
not hot here so I know that's not what caused this  problem.
 
I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to clean  out my system 
and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this before about  6 years ago 
when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in Indiana put me  on and 
anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec for 26  days.  
After getting blood work some cancer cells did show back up in my  blood 
work but after stating Gleevec again the next test showed that I was clean  
again.  
 
My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a  call and said 
"well if it worked before it will work again" and that was  that.  So I have 
my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I can't  stand this nausea problem, 
my heart goes out to the women that have babies and  have to put up with 
nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec again and not  something else.  My blood 
counts are O. K. so I'm not worried about  that.  This does not help my 
anxiety problems
 
Will keep you all up to date as how things go.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/23/2015 11:35:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rbhuffm...@gmail.com writes:

 
Seventeen and on my first adventure  this wonderful world we live  in.


Richard H. 

On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 5:38:47 AM UTC-6,  Icandoallttc wrote:

That's cute Richard--how old were you?
My IV went in good-no swelling.  
This morning I am sick-- sore throat and mucus.  
Glad everything went good Sherri but couldn't they give you something  for 
pain??
Blessings Jeanie 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Richard H <_rbhuf...@gmail.com_ (javascript:) 
>  wrote:




 
May I add my sea story of needles,  I don't like  needles but do not have a 
phobia.  When I arrived  at boot  camp the first thing was get our shots. 
We walked through a  line getting shots in both arms as mentioned.  They were 
using  hugh syringes and had large pillows with the needles that was 
changed  while we were stepping in front of them. Someone was calling a slow  
cadence of step, step. As each recruit stepped He was given a shot in each  
arm. 
 All of a sudden the corpsman I was getting ready to step in  front of 
yelled "BRING BACK MY NEEDLE."  The recruit in fount of  me had it hanging in 
his arm.  When I received the 4 pricks for  allergy testing I then had to sit 
in the dentist chair I promptly passed  out.  


Richard H.




On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:50:17 AM UTC-6, greenie  wrote:

Jeanie, Needles lord knows I hate them.  The  first time I had a blood test 
it was to get married.  My   Doctor lived 3 blocks away form me and I 
worked for him when I was in  High School.  They did the blood work and he 
walked 
in after and  took one look at me and he put is hand behind my head and 
pushed it down  and told me to pushed as hard as I could to keep me from 
passing  out.
 
Then when I went into the Navy I was on active  duty for a year and a haft 
they found out that I didn't get any of  my shots.  Well you know what 
happened then, I received them all at  once, both arms.  So years go by and I 
end 
up with CML and we all  know about needles.  Yes, some are good and some 
are bad.  I  had to get blood work this Monday and I think the lady took the 
needle  outside and scraped it on the pavement plus I think it was square and 
 bent. I think it when through my arm and out the other  side.
 
And the first BMB all they gave me it was so  much fun that I asked them to 
do another one. Ha, Ha.  After about  10 or 11 of them I asked to be put 
into lala land which they did but I  had to have someone drive me home.  My 
wife has to give me a  shot of testosterone every two weeks, the needle is 
1/1/2 in long  another fun shot.  So for me they do the molecular blood work 
and  no more BMB.  Thank you.
 
Take care and hang in their,
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2015 6:08:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
cml...@googlegroups.com writes:

Hi Marty. 
How are you?
I am going to have the endoscopy today.  First I will go to  the blood area 
and have blood checked. Then to dr for consultation.  Then to have the 
endoscopy.  
Long day. 
Needles are no fun but we get used to them.  Some draws are  good some bad. 
 
Pray for me and all in need. 
Love Jeanie 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg   wrote:




Hi Jeanie,  


You have been through so much it's about time that you got a  break or two. 

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-23 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Richard,

You got that key word right... LIVE

Hey, bring back that needle[?] Being on the line myself I can just picture
that.

18's,

Marty

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Richard H  wrote:

> Seventeen and on my first adventure  this wonderful world we live in.
>
> Richard H.
>
> On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 5:38:47 AM UTC-6, Icandoallttc wrote:
>
>> That's cute Richard--how old were you?
>> My IV went in good-no swelling.
>> This morning I am sick-- sore throat and mucus.
>> Glad everything went good Sherri but couldn't they give you something for
>> pain??
>> Blessings Jeanie
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Richard H  wrote:
>>
>> May I add my sea story of needles,  I don't like needles but do not have
>> a phobia.  When I arrived  at boot camp the first thing was get our shots.
>> We walked through a line getting shots in both arms as mentioned.  They
>> were using hugh syringes and had large pillows with the needles that was
>> changed while we were stepping in front of them. Someone was calling a slow
>> cadence of step, step. As each recruit stepped He was given a shot in each
>> arm.  All of a sudden the corpsman I was getting ready to step in front of
>> yelled "BRING BACK MY NEEDLE."  The recruit in fount of me had it hanging
>> in his arm.  When I received the 4 pricks for allergy testing I then had to
>> sit in the dentist chair I promptly passed out.
>>
>> Richard H.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:50:17 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>>
>>  Jeanie, Needles lord knows I hate them.  The first time I had a blood
>> test it was to get married.  My  Doctor lived 3 blocks away form me and I
>> worked for him when I was in High School.  They did the blood work and he
>> walked in after and took one look at me and he put is hand behind my head
>> and pushed it down and told me to pushed as hard as I could to keep me from
>> passing out.
>>
>> Then when I went into the Navy I was on active duty for a year and a haft
>> they found out that I didn't get any of my shots.  Well you know what
>> happened then, I received them all at once, both arms.  So years go by and
>> I end up with CML and we all know about needles.  Yes, some are good and
>> some are bad.  I had to get blood work this Monday and I think the lady
>> took the needle outside and scraped it on the pavement plus I think it was
>> square and bent. I think it when through my arm and out the other side.
>>
>> And the first BMB all they gave me it was so much fun that I asked them
>> to do another one. Ha, Ha.  After about 10 or 11 of them I asked to be put
>> into lala land which they did but I had to have someone drive me home.  My
>> wife has to give me a shot of testosterone every two weeks, the needle is
>> 1/1/2 in long another fun shot.  So for me they do the molecular blood work
>> and no more BMB.  Thank you.
>>
>> Take care and hang in their,
>>
>> greenie
>>
>>  In a message dated 1/22/2015 6:08:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> cml...@googlegroups.com writes:
>>
>> Hi Marty.
>> How are you?
>> I am going to have the endoscopy today.  First I will go to the blood
>> area and have blood checked. Then to dr for consultation.  Then to have the
>> endoscopy.
>> Long day.
>> Needles are no fun but we get used to them.  Some draws are good some
>> bad.
>> Pray for me and all in need.
>> Love Jeanie
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Jeanie,
>>
>> You have been through so much it's about time that you got a break or
>> two. Not feeling that IV go in and no black and blue afterward then having
>> a BMA with little or no pain.
>>
>> Well, two out of two ain't too bad is it? <360.gif>
>>
>> When I was a kid I had a phobia, and it was needles. I hated them that on
>> the day my school was giving shots I told my mother that I was sick and
>> couldn't go to school that day. So, she kept me home and I went to school
>> the next day. Guess what? I got the shots that day.
>>
>> OK I'm in the army and in those days you had to walk down an isle to get
>> all of your shots. They used a machine that looked like a gun and I thought
>> it wouldn't hurt. Guess what? It did!
>>
>> Then when I was 45 years old I got CML and went for a bone marrow
>> transplant. So many, many needles that I just got used to them. Then having
>> 17 BMB's. It looks like needles and me are just like twins, always
>> together. Not to mention that one of the aspiration needles break off and
>> lodge in my illiac. So in go more needles and an in-cession follows to
>> remove that needle. Then four stitches, of course using another needle.
>>
>>
>> So about 4 years ago my kidneys fail and I go on dialysis. Two very large
>> needles are stuck into my arm every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and they
>> stay in there for four hours.
>>
>> I wouldn't say that I have gotten used to them but maybe I just don't pay
>> that much attention to them anymore.
>>
>>  So much for any phob

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-23 Thread Richard H
Seventeen and on my first adventure  this wonderful world we live in.

Richard H. 

On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 5:38:47 AM UTC-6, Icandoallttc wrote:

> That's cute Richard--how old were you?
> My IV went in good-no swelling.  
> This morning I am sick-- sore throat and mucus.  
> Glad everything went good Sherri but couldn't they give you something for 
> pain??
> Blessings Jeanie 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Richard H > 
> wrote:
>
> May I add my sea story of needles,  I don't like needles but do not have a 
> phobia.  When I arrived  at boot camp the first thing was get our shots. We 
> walked through a line getting shots in both arms as mentioned.  They were 
> using hugh syringes and had large pillows with the needles that was changed 
> while we were stepping in front of them. Someone was calling a slow cadence 
> of step, step. As each recruit stepped He was given a shot in each arm.  
> All of a sudden the corpsman I was getting ready to step in front of yelled 
> "BRING BACK MY NEEDLE."  The recruit in fount of me had it hanging in his 
> arm.  When I received the 4 pricks for allergy testing I then had to sit in 
> the dentist chair I promptly passed out.  
>
> Richard H.
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:50:17 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>
>  Jeanie, Needles lord knows I hate them.  The first time I had a blood 
> test it was to get married.  My  Doctor lived 3 blocks away form me and I 
> worked for him when I was in High School.  They did the blood work and he 
> walked in after and took one look at me and he put is hand behind my head 
> and pushed it down and told me to pushed as hard as I could to keep me from 
> passing out.
>  
> Then when I went into the Navy I was on active duty for a year and a haft 
> they found out that I didn't get any of my shots.  Well you know what 
> happened then, I received them all at once, both arms.  So years go by and 
> I end up with CML and we all know about needles.  Yes, some are good and 
> some are bad.  I had to get blood work this Monday and I think the lady 
> took the needle outside and scraped it on the pavement plus I think it was 
> square and bent. I think it when through my arm and out the other side.
>  
> And the first BMB all they gave me it was so much fun that I asked them to 
> do another one. Ha, Ha.  After about 10 or 11 of them I asked to be put 
> into lala land which they did but I had to have someone drive me home.  My 
> wife has to give me a shot of testosterone every two weeks, the needle is 
> 1/1/2 in long another fun shot.  So for me they do the molecular blood work 
> and no more BMB.  Thank you.
>  
> Take care and hang in their,
>  
> greenie
>  
>  In a message dated 1/22/2015 6:08:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cml...@googlegroups.com writes:
>
> Hi Marty. 
> How are you?
> I am going to have the endoscopy today.  First I will go to the blood area 
> and have blood checked. Then to dr for consultation.  Then to have the 
> endoscopy.  
> Long day. 
> Needles are no fun but we get used to them.  Some draws are good some bad. 
>  
> Pray for me and all in need. 
> Love Jeanie 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
>  Hi Jeanie, 
>
> You have been through so much it's about time that you got a break or two. 
> Not feeling that IV go in and no black and blue afterward then having a BMA 
> with little or no pain. 
>
> Well, two out of two ain't too bad is it? <360.gif>
>
> When I was a kid I had a phobia, and it was needles. I hated them that on 
> the day my school was giving shots I told my mother that I was sick and 
> couldn't go to school that day. So, she kept me home and I went to school 
> the next day. Guess what? I got the shots that day.
>
> OK I'm in the army and in those days you had to walk down an isle to get 
> all of your shots. They used a machine that looked like a gun and I thought 
> it wouldn't hurt. Guess what? It did!
>
> Then when I was 45 years old I got CML and went for a bone marrow 
> transplant. So many, many needles that I just got used to them. Then having 
> 17 BMB's. It looks like needles and me are just like twins, always 
> together. Not to mention that one of the aspiration needles break off and 
> lodge in my illiac. So in go more needles and an in-cession follows to 
> remove that needle. Then four stitches, of course using another needle. 
>  
>
> So about 4 years ago my kidneys fail and I go on dialysis. Two very large 
> needles are stuck into my arm every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and they 
> stay in there for four hours.
>
> I wouldn't say that I have gotten used to them but maybe I just don't pay 
> that much attention to them anymore.
>
>  So much for any phobias., but life goes on. Hopefully I will be getting 
> some more needles for a kidney transplant soon. Now doesn't that sound 
> warped from someone that had a phobia against needles? It just all depends 
> on how one looks at 

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-23 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
That's cute Richard--how old were you?
My IV went in good-no swelling.  
This morning I am sick-- sore throat and mucus.  
Glad everything went good Sherri but couldn't they give you something for pain??
Blessings Jeanie 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Richard H  wrote:
> 
> May I add my sea story of needles,  I don't like needles but do not have a 
> phobia.  When I arrived  at boot camp the first thing was get our shots. We 
> walked through a line getting shots in both arms as mentioned.  They were 
> using hugh syringes and had large pillows with the needles that was changed 
> while we were stepping in front of them. Someone was calling a slow cadence 
> of step, step. As each recruit stepped He was given a shot in each arm.  All 
> of a sudden the corpsman I was getting ready to step in front of yelled 
> "BRING BACK MY NEEDLE."  The recruit in fount of me had it hanging in his 
> arm.  When I received the 4 pricks for allergy testing I then had to sit in 
> the dentist chair I promptly passed out. 
> 
> Richard H.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:50:17 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>> Jeanie, Needles lord knows I hate them.  The first time I had a blood test 
>> it was to get married.  My  Doctor lived 3 blocks away form me and I worked 
>> for him when I was in High School.  They did the blood work and he walked in 
>> after and took one look at me and he put is hand behind my head and pushed 
>> it down and told me to pushed as hard as I could to keep me from passing out.
>>  
>> Then when I went into the Navy I was on active duty for a year and a haft 
>> they found out that I didn't get any of my shots.  Well you know what 
>> happened then, I received them all at once, both arms.  So years go by and I 
>> end up with CML and we all know about needles.  Yes, some are good and some 
>> are bad.  I had to get blood work this Monday and I think the lady took the 
>> needle outside and scraped it on the pavement plus I think it was square and 
>> bent. I think it when through my arm and out the other side.
>>  
>> And the first BMB all they gave me it was so much fun that I asked them to 
>> do another one. Ha, Ha.  After about 10 or 11 of them I asked to be put into 
>> lala land which they did but I had to have someone drive me home.  My wife 
>> has to give me a shot of testosterone every two weeks, the needle is 1/1/2 
>> in long another fun shot.  So for me they do the molecular blood work and no 
>> more BMB.  Thank you.
>>  
>> Take care and hang in their,
>>  
>> greenie
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/22/2015 6:08:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> cml...@googlegroups.com writes:
>> Hi Marty. 
>> How are you?
>> I am going to have the endoscopy today.  First I will go to the blood area 
>> and have blood checked. Then to dr for consultation.  Then to have the 
>> endoscopy.  
>> Long day. 
>> Needles are no fun but we get used to them.  Some draws are good some bad.  
>> Pray for me and all in need. 
>> Love Jeanie 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jeanie,
>> 
>> You have been through so much it's about time that you got a break or two. 
>> Not feeling that IV go in and no black and blue afterward then having a BMA 
>> with little or no pain. 
>> 
>> Well, two out of two ain't too bad is it? <360.gif>
>> 
>> When I was a kid I had a phobia, and it was needles. I hated them that on 
>> the day my school was giving shots I told my mother that I was sick and 
>> couldn't go to school that day. So, she kept me home and I went to school 
>> the next day. Guess what? I got the shots that day.
>> 
>> OK I'm in the army and in those days you had to walk down an isle to get all 
>> of your shots. They used a machine that looked like a gun and I  thought 
>> it wouldn't hurt. Guess what? It did!
>> 
>> Then when I was 45 years old I got CML and went for a bone marrow 
>> transplant. So many, many needles that I just got used to them. Then having 
>> 17 BMB's. It looks like needles and me are just like twins, always together. 
>> Not to mention that one of the aspiration needles break off and lodge in my 
>> illiac. So in go more needles and an in-cession follows to remove that 
>> needle. Then four stitches, of course using another needle.  
>> 
>> So about 4 years ago my kidneys fail and I go on dialysis. Two very large 
>> needles are stuck into my arm every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and they 
>> stay in there for four hours.
>> 
>> I wouldn't say that I have gotten used to them but maybe I just don't pay 
>> that much attention to them anymore.
>> 
>>  So much for any phobias., but life goes on. Hopefully I will be getting 
>> some more needles for a kidney transplant soon. Now doesn't that sound 
>> warped from someone that had a phobia against needles? It just all depends 
>> on how one looks at it I guess...
>> 
>> 18's,
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:27 AM, 'Icand

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-22 Thread Richard H
May I add my sea story of needles,  I don't like needles but do not have a 
phobia.  When I arrived  at boot camp the first thing was get our shots. We 
walked through a line getting shots in both arms as mentioned.  They were 
using hugh syringes and had large pillows with the needles that was changed 
while we were stepping in front of them. Someone was calling a slow cadence 
of step, step. As each recruit stepped He was given a shot in each arm.  
All of a sudden the corpsman I was getting ready to step in front of yelled 
"BRING BACK MY NEEDLE."  The recruit in fount of me had it hanging in his 
arm.  When I received the 4 pricks for allergy testing I then had to sit in 
the dentist chair I promptly passed out.  

Richard H.




On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:50:17 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:

>  Jeanie, Needles lord knows I hate them.  The first time I had a blood 
> test it was to get married.  My  Doctor lived 3 blocks away form me and I 
> worked for him when I was in High School.  They did the blood work and he 
> walked in after and took one look at me and he put is hand behind my head 
> and pushed it down and told me to pushed as hard as I could to keep me from 
> passing out.
>  
> Then when I went into the Navy I was on active duty for a year and a haft 
> they found out that I didn't get any of my shots.  Well you know what 
> happened then, I received them all at once, both arms.  So years go by and 
> I end up with CML and we all know about needles.  Yes, some are good and 
> some are bad.  I had to get blood work this Monday and I think the lady 
> took the needle outside and scraped it on the pavement plus I think it was 
> square and bent. I think it when through my arm and out the other side.
>  
> And the first BMB all they gave me it was so much fun that I asked them to 
> do another one. Ha, Ha.  After about 10 or 11 of them I asked to be put 
> into lala land which they did but I had to have someone drive me home.  My 
> wife has to give me a shot of testosterone every two weeks, the needle is 
> 1/1/2 in long another fun shot.  So for me they do the molecular blood work 
> and no more BMB.  Thank you.
>  
> Take care and hang in their,
>  
> greenie
>  
>  In a message dated 1/22/2015 6:08:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cml...@googlegroups.com  writes:
>
> Hi Marty. 
> How are you?
> I am going to have the endoscopy today.  First I will go to the blood area 
> and have blood checked. Then to dr for consultation.  Then to have the 
> endoscopy.  
> Long day. 
> Needles are no fun but we get used to them.  Some draws are good some bad. 
>  
> Pray for me and all in need. 
> Love Jeanie 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg  > wrote:
>
>  Hi Jeanie, 
>
> You have been through so much it's about time that you got a break or two. 
> Not feeling that IV go in and no black and blue afterward then having a BMA 
> with little or no pain. 
>
> Well, two out of two ain't too bad is it? <360.gif>
>
> When I was a kid I had a phobia, and it was needles. I hated them that on 
> the day my school was giving shots I told my mother that I was sick and 
> couldn't go to school that day. So, she kept me home and I went to school 
> the next day. Guess what? I got the shots that day.
>
> OK I'm in the army and in those days you had to walk down an isle to get 
> all of your shots. They used a machine that looked like a gun and I thought 
> it wouldn't hurt. Guess what? It did!
>
> Then when I was 45 years old I got CML and went for a bone marrow 
> transplant. So many, many needles that I just got used to them. Then having 
> 17 BMB's. It looks like needles and me are just like twins, always 
> together. Not to mention that one of the aspiration needles break off and 
> lodge in my illiac. So in go more needles and an in-cession follows to 
> remove that needle. Then four stitches, of course using another needle. 
>  
>
> So about 4 years ago my kidneys fail and I go on dialysis. Two very large 
> needles are stuck into my arm every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and they 
> stay in there for four hours.
>
> I wouldn't say that I have gotten used to them but maybe I just don't pay 
> that much attention to them anymore.
>
>  So much for any phobias., but life goes on. Hopefully I will be getting 
> some more needles for a kidney transplant soon. Now doesn't that sound 
> warped from someone that had a phobia against needles? It just all depends 
> on how one looks at it I guess...
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:27 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
> cml...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>  Hi Marty and thanks so much for that uplift.  I have been dreading it 
> for some reason.  
> I pray that you get your kidney soon-- I know those fistula operations are 
> tedious.  
> The procedure I dread most is the IV. 
> My last one last week was a miracle.   The nurse put it in and I didn't 
> feel a thing.  Later I looked for the black and blue 

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-22 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Jeanie, Needles lord knows I hate them.  The first time I  had a blood test 
it was to get married.  My  Doctor lived 3 blocks  away form me and I wor
ked for him when I was in High School.  They did the  blood work and he walked 
in after and took one look at me and he put is hand  behind my head and 
pushed it down and told me to pushed as hard as I could to  keep me from 
passing out.
 
Then when I went into the Navy I was on active duty for a  year and a haft 
they found out that I didn't get any of my shots.  Well you  know what 
happened then, I received them all at once, both arms.  So years  go by and I 
end 
up with CML and we all know about needles.  Yes, some are  good and some 
are bad.  I had to get blood work this Monday and I think the  lady took the 
needle outside and scraped it on the pavement plus I think it was  square and 
bent. I think it when through my arm and out the other  side.
 
And the first BMB all they gave me it was so much  fun that I asked them to 
do another one. Ha, Ha.  After about 10 or 11 of  them I asked to be put 
into lala land which they did but I had to have someone  drive me home.  My 
wife has to give me a shot of testosterone every  two weeks, the needle is 
1/1/2 in long another fun shot.  So for me they do  the molecular blood work 
and no more BMB.  Thank you.
 
Take care and hang in their,
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2015 6:08:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:

Hi Marty. 
How are you?
I am going to have the endoscopy today.  First I will go to the  blood area 
and have blood checked. Then to dr for consultation.  Then to  have the 
endoscopy.  
Long day. 
Needles are no fun but we get used to them.  Some draws are good  some bad. 
 
Pray for me and all in need. 
Love Jeanie 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg <_wa2yyx@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:wa2...@gmail.com) > wrote:




Hi Jeanie,  


You have been through so much it's about time that you got a break or  two. 
Not feeling that IV go in and no black and blue afterward then having a  
BMA with little or no pain. 


Well, two out of two ain't too bad is it? <360.gif>


When I was a kid I had a phobia, and it was needles. I hated them that  on 
the day my school was giving shots I told my mother that I was sick and  
couldn't go to school that day. So, she kept me home and I went to school  the 
next day. Guess what? I got the shots that day.


OK I'm in the army and in those days you had to walk down an isle to  get 
all of your shots. They used a machine that looked like a gun and I  thought 
it wouldn't hurt. Guess what? It did!


Then when I was 45 years old I got CML and went for a bone marrow  
transplant. So many, many needles that I just got used to them. Then having  17 
BMB's. It looks like needles and me are just like twins, always together.  Not 
to mention that one of the aspiration needles break off and lodge in my  
illiac. So in go more needles and an in-cession follows to remove that  needle. 
Then four stitches, of course using another needle.  


So about 4 years ago my kidneys fail and I go on dialysis. Two very  large 
needles are stuck into my arm every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and  they 
stay in there for four hours.


I wouldn't say that I have gotten used to them but maybe I just don't  pay 
that much attention to them anymore.


So much for any phobias., but life goes on. Hopefully I will be  getting 
some more needles for a kidney transplant soon. Now doesn't that  sound warped 
from someone that had a phobia against needles? It just all  depends on how 
one looks at it I guess...


18's,


Marty






On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:27 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via  CMLHope 
<_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) > wrote:


Hi Marty and thanks so much for that uplift.  I have been  dreading it for 
some reason.  
I pray that you get your kidney soon-- I know those fistula  operations are 
tedious.  
The procedure I dread most is the IV. 
My last one last week was a miracle.   The nurse put it in and I  didn't 
feel a thing.  Later I looked for the black and blue mark left  by the IV and 
no sign at all.  I have never had this before.   It's usually black and blue 
and swollen. 
My Bma has hurt very little. Thank The Lord!!!


You are our spice of life and thanks for being there for. And thanks  to 
all if you for your prayers and uplifts. 
Blessings
18's jeanie



Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Marty Gartenberg <_wa2yyx@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:wa2...@gmail.com) > wrote:




Hi Jeanie,  


Good luck with your endoscopy.  They usually do put you out for that 
procedure. I don't know if they  will use a Propofol cocktail but if they do 
you 
will go to sleep and  when you wake up you will still think that the 
procedure was not yet  done. Very good sleep with no after effects. I have had 
at 
least a dozen  of them. Every time they operate on the fistula in my arm they 
use it.  

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-22 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Jeanie,

You know that I'm praying for you. I know that everything will come out
alright.

GOD bless you Jeanie.

18's,

Marty

PS could you also pray for me to receive a kidney transplant soon. I need
to have another operation on the fistula in my arm once again. This will be
the twelfth operation in less then a year, but I have to get it done
because it is my life line until I can get a kidney transplant..

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:08 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Marty.
> How are you?
> I am going to have the endoscopy today.  First I will go to the blood area
> and have blood checked. Then to dr for consultation.  Then to have the
> endoscopy.
> Long day.
> Needles are no fun but we get used to them.  Some draws are good some bad.
>
> Pray for me and all in need.
> Love Jeanie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Hi Jeanie,
>
> You have been through so much it's about time that you got a break or two.
> Not feeling that IV go in and no black and blue afterward then having a BMA
> with little or no pain.
>
> Well, two out of two ain't too bad is it? <360.gif>
>
> When I was a kid I had a phobia, and it was needles. I hated them that on
> the day my school was giving shots I told my mother that I was sick and
> couldn't go to school that day. So, she kept me home and I went to school
> the next day. Guess what? I got the shots that day.
>
> OK I'm in the army and in those days you had to walk down an isle to get
> all of your shots. They used a machine that looked like a gun and I thought
> it wouldn't hurt. Guess what? It did!
>
> Then when I was 45 years old I got CML and went for a bone marrow
> transplant. So many, many needles that I just got used to them. Then having
> 17 BMB's. It looks like needles and me are just like twins, always
> together. Not to mention that one of the aspiration needles break off and
> lodge in my illiac. So in go more needles and an in-cession follows to
> remove that needle. Then four stitches, of course using another needle.
>
>
> So about 4 years ago my kidneys fail and I go on dialysis. Two very large
> needles are stuck into my arm every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and they
> stay in there for four hours.
>
> I wouldn't say that I have gotten used to them but maybe I just don't pay
> that much attention to them anymore.
>
>  So much for any phobias., but life goes on. Hopefully I will be getting
> some more needles for a kidney transplant soon. Now doesn't that sound
> warped from someone that had a phobia against needles? It just all depends
> on how one looks at it I guess...
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:27 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marty and thanks so much for that uplift.  I have been dreading it for
>> some reason.
>> I pray that you get your kidney soon-- I know those fistula operations
>> are tedious.
>> The procedure I dread most is the IV.
>> My last one last week was a miracle.   The nurse put it in and I didn't
>> feel a thing.  Later I looked for the black and blue mark left by the IV
>> and no sign at all.  I have never had this before.  It's usually black and
>> blue and swollen.
>> My Bma has hurt very little. Thank The Lord!!!
>>
>> You are our spice of life and thanks for being there for. And thanks to
>> all if you for your prayers and uplifts.
>> Blessings
>> 18's jeanie
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeanie,
>>
>> Good luck with your endoscopy. They usually do put you out for that
>> procedure. I don't know if they will use a Propofol cocktail but if they do
>> you will go to sleep and when you wake up you will still think that the
>> procedure was not yet done. Very good sleep with no after effects. I have
>> had at least a dozen of them. Every time they operate on the fistula in my
>> arm they use it. It looks like I will be going in for another procedure for
>> my fistula, there is a narrowing in two sections. This will make 13
>> procedures in the last 12  months. I sure hope that a kidney transplant
>> will be coming soon.
>>
>> I have to share a story about my anesthesia doctor. She knows me so well
>> that we are on a first name basis. So, the last time that I had to be put
>> out I asked her if I could "knock myself out" Of course I was only kidding
>> but she told me that she would let me do it to myself.
>>
>> So, i'm in the operating room and she is standing over me and she puts
>> the oxygen mask on my head and as she is holding the needle that is
>> connected to me IV she tells me to put my thumb on the plunger but not to
>> push it until she tells me so.
>>
>> Ok I got my thumb on the plunger and she tells me to push it very slowly
>> when she counts to three. So, I'm waiting and her thumb is on top of mine
>> and she counts "one" then she starts to count "two" and the next thing I
>> know is that 

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-22 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
Hi Marty. 
How are you?
I am going to have the endoscopy today.  First I will go to the blood area and 
have blood checked. Then to dr for consultation.  Then to have the endoscopy.  
Long day. 
Needles are no fun but we get used to them.  Some draws are good some bad.  
Pray for me and all in need. 
Love Jeanie 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeanie,
> 
> You have been through so much it's about time that you got a break or two. 
> Not feeling that IV go in and no black and blue afterward then having a BMA 
> with little or no pain. 
> 
> Well, two out of two ain't too bad is it? <360.gif>
> 
> When I was a kid I had a phobia, and it was needles. I hated them that on the 
> day my school was giving shots I told my mother that I was sick and couldn't 
> go to school that day. So, she kept me home and I went to school the next 
> day. Guess what? I got the shots that day.
> 
> OK I'm in the army and in those days you had to walk down an isle to get all 
> of your shots. They used a machine that looked like a gun and I thought it 
> wouldn't hurt. Guess what? It did!
> 
> Then when I was 45 years old I got CML and went for a bone marrow transplant. 
> So many, many needles that I just got used to them. Then having 17 BMB's. It 
> looks like needles and me are just like twins, always together. Not to 
> mention that one of the aspiration needles break off and lodge in my illiac. 
> So in go more needles and an in-cession follows to remove that needle. Then 
> four stitches, of course using another needle.  
> 
> So about 4 years ago my kidneys fail and I go on dialysis. Two very large 
> needles are stuck into my arm every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and they 
> stay in there for four hours.
> 
> I wouldn't say that I have gotten used to them but maybe I just don't pay 
> that much attention to them anymore.
> 
>  So much for any phobias., but life goes on. Hopefully I will be getting some 
> more needles for a kidney transplant soon. Now doesn't that sound warped from 
> someone that had a phobia against needles? It just all depends on how one 
> looks at it I guess...
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:27 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Marty and thanks so much for that uplift.  I have been dreading it for 
>> some reason.  
>> I pray that you get your kidney soon-- I know those fistula operations are 
>> tedious.  
>> The procedure I dread most is the IV. 
>> My last one last week was a miracle.   The nurse put it in and I didn't feel 
>> a thing.  Later I looked for the black and blue mark left by the IV and no 
>> sign at all.  I have never had this before.  It's usually black and blue and 
>> swollen. 
>> My Bma has hurt very little. Thank The Lord!!!
>> 
>> You are our spice of life and thanks for being there for. And thanks to all 
>> if you for your prayers and uplifts. 
>> Blessings
>> 18's jeanie
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeanie,
>>> 
>>> Good luck with your endoscopy. They usually do put you out for that 
>>> procedure. I don't know if they will use a Propofol cocktail but if they do 
>>> you will go to sleep and when you wake up you will still think that the 
>>> procedure was not yet done. Very good sleep with no after effects. I have 
>>> had at least a dozen of them. Every time they operate on the fistula in my 
>>> arm they use it. It looks like I will be going in for another procedure for 
>>> my fistula, there is a narrowing in two sections. This will make 13 
>>> procedures in the last 12  months. I sure hope that a kidney transplant 
>>> will be coming soon.
>>> 
>>> I have to share a story about my anesthesia doctor. She knows me so well 
>>> that we are on a first name basis. So, the last time that I had to be put 
>>> out I asked her if I could "knock myself out" Of course I was only kidding 
>>> but she told me that she would let me do it to myself.
>>> 
>>> So, i'm in the operating room and she is standing over me and she puts the 
>>> oxygen mask on my head and as she is holding the needle that is connected 
>>> to me IV she tells me to put my thumb on the plunger but not to push it 
>>> until she tells me so. 
>>> 
>>> Ok I got my thumb on the plunger and she tells me to push it very slowly 
>>> when she counts to three. So, I'm waiting and her thumb is on top of mine 
>>> and she counts "one" then she starts to count "two" and the next thing I 
>>> know is that I am waking up in the recovery room. 
>>> 
>>> When she came to see me I asked her if I was the one that knocked myself 
>>> out and she just smiled. 
>>> 
>>> By the way this Propofol is white in color and looks like milk.
>>> 
>>> Humor is the spice of life.<360.gif>
>>> 
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty 
>>> 
 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:19 PM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope 
  wrote:
 Hi Marty 
 Yes a fl cracker--hope you are great today!

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-21 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Jeanie,

You have been through so much it's about time that you got a break or two.
Not feeling that IV go in and no black and blue afterward then having a BMA
with little or no pain.

Well, two out of two ain't too bad is it? [?]

When I was a kid I had a phobia, and it was needles. I hated them that on
the day my school was giving shots I told my mother that I was sick and
couldn't go to school that day. So, she kept me home and I went to school
the next day. Guess what? I got the shots that day.

OK I'm in the army and in those days you had to walk down an isle to get
all of your shots. They used a machine that looked like a gun and I thought
it wouldn't hurt. Guess what? It did!

Then when I was 45 years old I got CML and went for a bone marrow
transplant. So many, many needles that I just got used to them. Then having
17 BMB's. It looks like needles and me are just like twins, always
together. Not to mention that one of the aspiration needles break off and
lodge in my illiac. So in go more needles and an in-cession follows to
remove that needle. Then four stitches, of course using another needle.


So about 4 years ago my kidneys fail and I go on dialysis. Two very large
needles are stuck into my arm every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and they
stay in there for four hours.

I wouldn't say that I have gotten used to them but maybe I just don't pay
that much attention to them anymore.

 So much for any phobias., but life goes on. Hopefully I will be getting
some more needles for a kidney transplant soon. Now doesn't that sound
warped from someone that had a phobia against needles? It just all depends
on how one looks at it I guess...

18's,

Marty



On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:27 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Marty and thanks so much for that uplift.  I have been dreading it for
> some reason.
> I pray that you get your kidney soon-- I know those fistula operations are
> tedious.
> The procedure I dread most is the IV.
> My last one last week was a miracle.   The nurse put it in and I didn't
> feel a thing.  Later I looked for the black and blue mark left by the IV
> and no sign at all.  I have never had this before.  It's usually black and
> blue and swollen.
> My Bma has hurt very little. Thank The Lord!!!
>
> You are our spice of life and thanks for being there for. And thanks to
> all if you for your prayers and uplifts.
> Blessings
> 18's jeanie[image: 🐬][image: 🐬]
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Hi Jeanie,
>
> Good luck with your endoscopy. They usually do put you out for that
> procedure. I don't know if they will use a Propofol cocktail but if they do
> you will go to sleep and when you wake up you will still think that the
> procedure was not yet done. Very good sleep with no after effects. I have
> had at least a dozen of them. Every time they operate on the fistula in my
> arm they use it. It looks like I will be going in for another procedure for
> my fistula, there is a narrowing in two sections. This will make 13
> procedures in the last 12  months. I sure hope that a kidney transplant
> will be coming soon.
>
> I have to share a story about my anesthesia doctor. She knows me so well
> that we are on a first name basis. So, the last time that I had to be put
> out I asked her if I could "knock myself out" Of course I was only kidding
> but she told me that she would let me do it to myself.
>
> So, i'm in the operating room and she is standing over me and she puts the
> oxygen mask on my head and as she is holding the needle that is connected
> to me IV she tells me to put my thumb on the plunger but not to push it
> until she tells me so.
>
> Ok I got my thumb on the plunger and she tells me to push it very slowly
> when she counts to three. So, I'm waiting and her thumb is on top of mine
> and she counts "one" then she starts to count "two" and the next thing I
> know is that I am waking up in the recovery room.
>
> When she came to see me I asked her if I was the one that knocked myself
> out and she just smiled.
>
> By the way this Propofol is white in color and looks like milk.
>
> Humor is the spice of life.<360.gif>
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:19 PM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marty
>> Yes a fl cracker--hope you are great today!!!
>> I am going to have an endoscopy thur.
>> First one--they put you to sleep.
>> Blessings
>> Jeanie
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeanie,
>>
>> You sound like a real southern gal. As for me, I'm just a good old plain
>> city boy that also loves to go fishing. When I was a kid my father would
>> take me out deep sea fishing and my favorite fish was blue fish. My mother
>> used to cook it in milk to get rid of the fishy taste. It was really good
>> but I can't seem to find blue fish here in Florida.
>>
>> Anyway, I am kind of su

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-21 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
Hi Marty and thanks so much for that uplift.  I have been dreading it for some 
reason.  
I pray that you get your kidney soon-- I know those fistula operations are 
tedious.  
The procedure I dread most is the IV. 
My last one last week was a miracle.   The nurse put it in and I didn't feel a 
thing.  Later I looked for the black and blue mark left by the IV and no sign 
at all.  I have never had this before.  It's usually black and blue and 
swollen. 
My Bma has hurt very little. Thank The Lord!!!

You are our spice of life and thanks for being there for. And thanks to all if 
you for your prayers and uplifts. 
Blessings
18's jeanie🐬🐬


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeanie,
> 
> Good luck with your endoscopy. They usually do put you out for that 
> procedure. I don't know if they will use a Propofol cocktail but if they do 
> you will go to sleep and when you wake up you will still think that the 
> procedure was not yet done. Very good sleep with no after effects. I have had 
> at least a dozen of them. Every time they operate on the fistula in my arm 
> they use it. It looks like I will be going in for another procedure for my 
> fistula, there is a narrowing in two sections. This will make 13 procedures 
> in the last 12  months. I sure hope that a kidney transplant will be coming 
> soon.
> 
> I have to share a story about my anesthesia doctor. She knows me so well that 
> we are on a first name basis. So, the last time that I had to be put out I 
> asked her if I could "knock myself out" Of course I was only kidding but she 
> told me that she would let me do it to myself.
> 
> So, i'm in the operating room and she is standing over me and she puts the 
> oxygen mask on my head and as she is holding the needle that is connected to 
> me IV she tells me to put my thumb on the plunger but not to push it until 
> she tells me so. 
> 
> Ok I got my thumb on the plunger and she tells me to push it very slowly when 
> she counts to three. So, I'm waiting and her thumb is on top of mine and she 
> counts "one" then she starts to count "two" and the next thing I know is that 
> I am waking up in the recovery room. 
> 
> When she came to see me I asked her if I was the one that knocked myself out 
> and she just smiled. 
> 
> By the way this Propofol is white in color and looks like milk.
> 
> Humor is the spice of life.<360.gif>
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:19 PM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Marty 
>> Yes a fl cracker--hope you are great today!!!
>> I am going to have an endoscopy thur. 
>> First one--they put you to sleep. 
>> Blessings
>> Jeanie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeanie,
>>> 
>>> You sound like a real southern gal. As for me, I'm just a good old plain 
>>> city boy that also loves to go fishing. When I was a kid my father would 
>>> take me out deep sea fishing and my favorite fish was blue fish. My mother 
>>> used to cook it in milk to get rid of the fishy taste. It was really good 
>>> but I can't seem to find blue fish here in Florida.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I am kind of surprised to hear that your having a difficult time 
>>> with Hydrea. That was the first drug that I got along with Allopurinal when 
>>> I first had CML.
>>> 
>>> Both of those drugs never gave me any problems except if I took too much 
>>> and it would take about a week for them to start working. Once they did 
>>> then my blood counts would drop sometimes drastically so the doses had to 
>>> be adjusted, but I never got sick or anything like that from them.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> 
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
 On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:59 AM, ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope 
  wrote:
 Hi all,
 My family all love to fish, and we keep and eat everything legalhehe.
 I was reared on good fried to a golden brown perch that live in the Fl 
 lakes and rivers.
 There is nothing better than good fried mullet with their roe fried to t  
 golden brown.
 We love it with grits and tomato gravy and cornbread.
 I am feeling some better, but taking Hydrea is no fun at all.  Knocks you 
 for a loop.
 I haven't heard about the pontatinib yet.
 My doctor says its a powerful drug and has to be kept monitored every week.
 Well all the drugs are powerful as far as I am concerned.
 Good luck everyone,
 Jeanie<3
  
  
 In a message dated 1/15/2015 2:58:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
 wa2...@gmail.com writes:
 Hi again Greenie,
 
 Like you said, don't look back but only forward. 
 
 By the way, I am an animal lover whether it be dogs, cats, birds or fish.
 
 I am glad to hear that you threw back those fish where they belong. 
 
 18's,
 
 Marty
 
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope 
>  wrote:
> Marty, My aunt left me some stock and 

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-20 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Jeanie,

Good luck with your endoscopy. They usually do put you out for that
procedure. I don't know if they will use a Propofol cocktail but if they do
you will go to sleep and when you wake up you will still think that the
procedure was not yet done. Very good sleep with no after effects. I have
had at least a dozen of them. Every time they operate on the fistula in my
arm they use it. It looks like I will be going in for another procedure for
my fistula, there is a narrowing in two sections. This will make 13
procedures in the last 12  months. I sure hope that a kidney transplant
will be coming soon.

I have to share a story about my anesthesia doctor. She knows me so well
that we are on a first name basis. So, the last time that I had to be put
out I asked her if I could "knock myself out" Of course I was only kidding
but she told me that she would let me do it to myself.

So, i'm in the operating room and she is standing over me and she puts the
oxygen mask on my head and as she is holding the needle that is connected
to me IV she tells me to put my thumb on the plunger but not to push it
until she tells me so.

Ok I got my thumb on the plunger and she tells me to push it very slowly
when she counts to three. So, I'm waiting and her thumb is on top of mine
and she counts "one" then she starts to count "two" and the next thing I
know is that I am waking up in the recovery room.

When she came to see me I asked her if I was the one that knocked myself
out and she just smiled.

By the way this Propofol is white in color and looks like milk.

Humor is the spice of life.[?]

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:19 PM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Marty
> Yes a fl cracker--hope you are great today!!!
> I am going to have an endoscopy thur.
> First one--they put you to sleep.
> Blessings
> Jeanie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Hi Jeanie,
>
> You sound like a real southern gal. As for me, I'm just a good old plain
> city boy that also loves to go fishing. When I was a kid my father would
> take me out deep sea fishing and my favorite fish was blue fish. My mother
> used to cook it in milk to get rid of the fishy taste. It was really good
> but I can't seem to find blue fish here in Florida.
>
> Anyway, I am kind of surprised to hear that your having a difficult time
> with Hydrea. That was the first drug that I got along with Allopurinal when
> I first had CML.
>
> Both of those drugs never gave me any problems except if I took too much
> and it would take about a week for them to start working. Once they did
> then my blood counts would drop sometimes drastically so the doses had to
> be adjusted, but I never got sick or anything like that from them.
>
> Good luck,
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:59 AM, ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,
>> My family all love to fish, and we keep and eat everything legalhehe.
>> I was reared on good fried to a golden brown perch that live in the Fl
>> lakes and rivers.
>> There is nothing better than good fried mullet with their roe fried to t
>> golden brown.
>> We love it with grits and tomato gravy and cornbread.
>> I am feeling some better, but taking Hydrea is no fun at all.  Knocks you
>> for a loop.
>> I haven't heard about the pontatinib yet.
>> My doctor says its a powerful drug and has to be kept monitored every
>> week.
>> Well all the drugs are powerful as far as I am concerned.
>> Good luck everyone,
>> Jeanie<3
>>
>>
>>  In a message dated 1/15/2015 2:58:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Hi again Greenie,
>>
>> Like you said, don't look back but only forward.
>>
>> By the way, I am an animal lover whether it be dogs, cats, birds or fish.
>>
>> I am glad to hear that you threw back those fish where they belong.
>>
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Marty, My aunt left me some stock and money and one of the stocks was
>>> Novartis and my stock guy told me to sell it.  That was before Gleevec was
>>> in any kind of study.  Because of him I also lost $43,000.00 and I pulled
>>> my money out and fired him. If I, would have, could of.  Of course I wish I
>>> would have kept some of my early Corvette's that I had I would be worth a
>>> more money then Novartis.  But can't look back, just look forward.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply, also I live in South Fort Myers not far from the
>>> beach.  In fact I went fishing yesterday by the beach and caught 8 fish.
>>> But I do not keep any, back into the water they go where they belong.
>>>
>>> greenie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  In a message dated 1/15/2015 1:09:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hi Greenie,
>>>
>>> First, where in Florida do you live? I am on the east coast, Boynton
>>> Beach. If we are not to far maybe we can

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-20 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
Hi Marty 
Yes a fl cracker--hope you are great today!!!
I am going to have an endoscopy thur. 
First one--they put you to sleep. 
Blessings
Jeanie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeanie,
> 
> You sound like a real southern gal. As for me, I'm just a good old plain city 
> boy that also loves to go fishing. When I was a kid my father would take me 
> out deep sea fishing and my favorite fish was blue fish. My mother used to 
> cook it in milk to get rid of the fishy taste. It was really good but I can't 
> seem to find blue fish here in Florida.
> 
> Anyway, I am kind of surprised to hear that your having a difficult time with 
> Hydrea. That was the first drug that I got along with Allopurinal when I 
> first had CML.
> 
> Both of those drugs never gave me any problems except if I took too much and 
> it would take about a week for them to start working. Once they did then my 
> blood counts would drop sometimes drastically so the doses had to be 
> adjusted, but I never got sick or anything like that from them.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:59 AM, ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> My family all love to fish, and we keep and eat everything legalhehe.
>> I was reared on good fried to a golden brown perch that live in the Fl lakes 
>> and rivers.
>> There is nothing better than good fried mullet with their roe fried to t 
>> golden brown.
>> We love it with grits and tomato gravy and cornbread.
>> I am feeling some better, but taking Hydrea is no fun at all.  Knocks you 
>> for a loop.
>> I haven't heard about the pontatinib yet.
>> My doctor says its a powerful drug and has to be kept monitored every week.
>> Well all the drugs are powerful as far as I am concerned.
>> Good luck everyone,
>> Jeanie<3
>>  
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/15/2015 2:58:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>> Hi again Greenie,
>> 
>> Like you said, don't look back but only forward. 
>> 
>> By the way, I am an animal lover whether it be dogs, cats, birds or fish.
>> 
>> I am glad to hear that you threw back those fish where they belong. 
>> 
>> 18's,
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Marty, My aunt left me some stock and money and one of the stocks was 
>>> Novartis and my stock guy told me to sell it.  That was  before Gleevec 
>>> was in any kind of study.  Because of him I also lost $43,000.00 and I 
>>> pulled my money out and fired him. If I, would have, could of.  Of course I 
>>> wish I would have kept some of my early Corvette's that I had I would be 
>>> worth a more money then Novartis.  But can't look back, just look forward.
>>>  
>>> Thanks for your reply, also I live in South Fort Myers not far from the 
>>> beach.  In fact I went fishing yesterday by the beach and caught 8 fish.  
>>> But I do not keep any, back into the  water they go where they belong.
>>>  
>>> greenie
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> In a message dated 1/15/2015 1:09:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>> Hi Greenie,
>>> 
>>> First, where in Florida do you live? I am on the east coast, Boynton Beach. 
>>> If we are not to far maybe we can do lunch one of these days. If my memory 
>>> serves me right I think that you may be in Ft Meyers??? If so then I guess 
>>> that lunch is out of the question...
>>> 
>>> About STI571. Do you know how it came about? As everyone already knows Dr. 
>>> Brian Druker who was the one that had first discovered it. He tried finding 
>>> a drug company that would produce it and finally found Novartis which was 
>>> at the time an agricultural drug company. 
>>> 
>>> One of Dr. Drukers patients was Zavie Miller who was trying out STI571 and 
>>> it was working. Novartis didn't want to produce it in quantity because of 
>>> the start up costs. Both Zavie and I got in touch with one of the 
>>> principals of Novartis and told him that we may be able to bring a lot of 
>>> investors into the company. 
>>> 
>>> At the time there was another CML site and we got on and asked if people 
>>> would like to invest in the Novartis stock. At that time their stock price 
>>> was $1,200 a share but there were also what is called American registry 
>>> shares of Novartis that was selling for only $20.00 a share. 
>>> 
>>> Everyone started buying those shares and Novartis then started production 
>>> but only after it was approved by the FDA which normally takes about 10 
>>> years. With pressure being put on the FDA STI571 was approved in about one 
>>> and a half years, and became Gleevec.
>>> 
>>> I bought many shares of Gleevec at $20.00 a share and have nor will I ever 
>>> sell them because of my support for Novartis. As of my December stock 
>>> portfolio Novartis is listed at 92.6600. Novartis stock has continuously 
>>> gone up and up over the years.  
>>> 
>>> I am however disappointed in the price they are getting

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-19 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Jeanie,

You sound like a real southern gal. As for me, I'm just a good old plain
city boy that also loves to go fishing. When I was a kid my father would
take me out deep sea fishing and my favorite fish was blue fish. My mother
used to cook it in milk to get rid of the fishy taste. It was really good
but I can't seem to find blue fish here in Florida.

Anyway, I am kind of surprised to hear that your having a difficult time
with Hydrea. That was the first drug that I got along with Allopurinal when
I first had CML.

Both of those drugs never gave me any problems except if I took too much
and it would take about a week for them to start working. Once they did
then my blood counts would drop sometimes drastically so the doses had to
be adjusted, but I never got sick or anything like that from them.

Good luck,

18's,

Marty

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:59 AM, ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>  Hi all,
> My family all love to fish, and we keep and eat everything legalhehe.
> I was reared on good fried to a golden brown perch that live in the Fl
> lakes and rivers.
> There is nothing better than good fried mullet with their roe fried to t
> golden brown.
> We love it with grits and tomato gravy and cornbread.
> I am feeling some better, but taking Hydrea is no fun at all.  Knocks you
> for a loop.
> I haven't heard about the pontatinib yet.
> My doctor says its a powerful drug and has to be kept monitored every week.
> Well all the drugs are powerful as far as I am concerned.
> Good luck everyone,
> Jeanie<3
>
>
>  In a message dated 1/15/2015 2:58:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Hi again Greenie,
>
> Like you said, don't look back but only forward.
>
> By the way, I am an animal lover whether it be dogs, cats, birds or fish.
>
> I am glad to hear that you threw back those fish where they belong.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>  Marty, My aunt left me some stock and money and one of the stocks was
>> Novartis and my stock guy told me to sell it.  That was before Gleevec was
>> in any kind of study.  Because of him I also lost $43,000.00 and I pulled
>> my money out and fired him. If I, would have, could of.  Of course I wish I
>> would have kept some of my early Corvette's that I had I would be worth a
>> more money then Novartis.  But can't look back, just look forward.
>>
>> Thanks for your reply, also I live in South Fort Myers not far from the
>> beach.  In fact I went fishing yesterday by the beach and caught 8 fish.
>> But I do not keep any, back into the water they go where they belong.
>>
>> greenie
>>
>>
>>
>>  In a message dated 1/15/2015 1:09:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Hi Greenie,
>>
>> First, where in Florida do you live? I am on the east coast, Boynton
>> Beach. If we are not to far maybe we can do lunch one of these days. If my
>> memory serves me right I think that you may be in Ft Meyers??? If so then I
>> guess that lunch is out of the question...
>>
>> About STI571. Do you know how it came about? As everyone already knows
>> Dr. Brian Druker who was the one that had first discovered it. He tried
>> finding a drug company that would produce it and finally found Novartis
>> which was at the time an agricultural drug company.
>>
>> One of Dr. Drukers patients was Zavie Miller who was trying out STI571
>> and it was working. Novartis didn't want to produce it in quantity because
>> of the start up costs. Both Zavie and I got in touch with one of the
>> principals of Novartis and told him that we may be able to bring a lot of
>> investors into the company.
>>
>> At the time there was another CML site and we got on and asked if people
>> would like to invest in the Novartis stock. At that time their stock price
>> was $1,200 a share but there were also what is called American registry
>> shares of Novartis that was selling for only $20.00 a share.
>>
>> Everyone started buying those shares and Novartis then started production
>> but only after it was approved by the FDA which normally takes about 10
>> years. With pressure being put on the FDA STI571 was approved in about one
>> and a half years, and became Gleevec.
>>
>> I bought many shares of Gleevec at $20.00 a share and have nor will I
>> ever sell them because of my support for Novartis. As of my December stock
>> portfolio Novartis is listed at 92.6600. Novartis stock has continuously
>> gone up and up over the years.
>>
>> I am however disappointed in the price they are getting, most notably
>> there are people with CML that can not afford it. Now Novartis does have
>> some options for those that are having a difficult time but it still would
>> be nice if Novartis would look back at what they were and what they are
>> now, and maybe consider dropping their price for Gleevec. Wishful thinking?
>> Maybe but maybe not, hopefully...
>>
>> But Greenie, as you 

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-19 Thread ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope
Hi all,
My family all love to fish, and we keep and eat everything legalhehe.
I was reared on good fried to a golden brown perch that live in the Fl  
lakes and rivers.
There is nothing better than good fried mullet with their roe fried to t  
golden brown.
We love it with grits and tomato gravy and cornbread.
I am feeling some better, but taking Hydrea is no fun at all.  Knocks  you 
for a loop.
I haven't heard about the pontatinib yet.
My doctor says its a powerful drug and has to be kept monitored every  week.
Well all the drugs are powerful as far as I am concerned.
Good luck everyone,
Jeanie<3
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/15/2015 2:58:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wa2...@gmail.com writes:

Hi again Greenie,  


Like you said, don't look back but only forward. 


By the way, I am an animal lover whether it be dogs, cats, birds or  fish.


I am glad to hear that you threw back those fish where they  belong. 


18's,


Marty


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
<_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) > wrote:


Marty, My aunt left me some stock and money and one of the  stocks was 
Novartis and my stock guy told me to sell it.  That was  before Gleevec was in 
any kind of study.  Because of him I also lost  $43,000.00 and I pulled my 
money out and fired him. If I, would have, could  of.  Of course I wish I 
would have kept some of my early Corvette's  that I had I would be worth a more 
money then Novartis.  But can't look  back, just look forward.
 
Thanks for your reply, also I live in South Fort  Myers not far from the 
beach.  In fact I went fishing yesterday by the  beach and caught 8 fish.  But 
I do not keep any, back into the  water they go where they belong.
 
greenie
 
 



 
In a message dated 1/15/2015 1:09:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_wa2yyx@gmail.com_ (mailto:wa2...@gmail.com)  writes:

Hi Greenie,  


First, where in Florida do you live? I am on the east coast, Boynton  
Beach. If we are not to far maybe we can do lunch one of these days. If my  
memory serves me right I think that you may be in Ft Meyers??? If so then  I 
guess that lunch is out of the question...


About STI571. Do you know how it came about? As everyone already  knows Dr. 
Brian Druker who was the one that had first discovered it. He  tried 
finding a drug company that would produce it and finally found  Novartis which 
was 
at the time an agricultural drug company. 


One of Dr. Drukers patients was Zavie Miller who was trying out  STI571 and 
it was working. Novartis didn't want to produce it in quantity  because of 
the start up costs. Both Zavie and I got in touch with one of  the 
principals of Novartis and told him that we may be able to bring a lot  of 
investors 
into the company. 


At the time there was another CML site and we got on and asked if  people 
would like to invest in the Novartis stock. At that time their  stock price 
was $1,200 a share but there were also what is called American  registry 
shares of Novartis that was selling for only $20.00 a  share. 


Everyone started buying those shares and Novartis then started  production 
but only after it was approved by the FDA which normally takes  about 10 
years. With pressure being put on the FDA STI571 was approved in  about one and 
a half years, and became Gleevec.


I bought many shares of Gleevec at $20.00 a share and have nor will I  ever 
sell them because of my support for Novartis. As of my December stock  
portfolio Novartis is listed at 92.6600. Novartis stock has continuously  gone 
up and up over the years.  


I am however disappointed in the price they are getting, most notably  
there are people with CML that can not afford it. Now Novartis does have  some 
options for those that are having a difficult time but it still would  be 
nice if Novartis would look back at what they were and what they are  now, and 
maybe consider dropping their price for Gleevec. Wishful  thinking? Maybe 
but maybe not, hopefully...


But Greenie, as you mentioned it is all about greed and money.


18's,


Marty


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Myvety2k via  CMLHope 
<_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) > wrote:


Thank you Marty,  Everything you wrote is so  true about Gleevec and CML.  
It's unfortunate that greed and money  has to be in the equations in the 
final outcome.  After Interferon  that almost killed me all that was left was 
Hydrea.  So when Doctor  Tallman called me and wanted be in his study for 
STI571 I had no idea  what was going on.  Within 3 months I was 85% clean and 
after 6  months I was clean.  Yes their have been over the years some up's  
and down's put that's part of life.  Like my late Aunt used to  always say 
when she was in her 80's I just take one day at a time.   

I wound like to see a cure in my life time because the  old hour glass is 
starting to run low on sand.. And the way these people  drive here in Florida 
the end could come anytime I leave

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-17 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
I no they always have so excuse. 
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/17/2015 12:39:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rbhuffm...@gmail.com writes:

 

Thanks for your service, Greenie.  My active duty  with the Navy from 7/58 
to 6/61.  I do not qualify for any thing except  prescriptions. I served 5 
months in The Pacific Atomic range.  I  arrived 6 months after the Big Mike 
test.  Since more people have those  areas I applied for the atomic warrior 
program. The  DOD rejected me  because I arrived after six months (by days) 
and too far from the blast area  to have received radiation from the trade 
winds or from the tides coming from  that area.  


Richard H.

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 6:34:56 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:

 
Good morning Marty,  The VA, they are on my I don't  want to talk about 
list.
I received a letter last week to see if I'm eligibility  for choice card 
benefits.  So I call their number and Secretary Bob  left me a message 
thanking me for my years of service.  I was in the  Navy for 6 years, from 1956 
to 
1962, 3 years of active duty and 3 years of  active reserve.
 
I gave the women my information and she told me that  I I'm not eligibility 
for anything.  All I want is to get hearing  ads.  She told me that I make 
to much money, What, to much money are  you kidding me.  She said I make 
$238.00 a month to much and I don't  qualify.  When you turn in you income 
taxes they check you  income.  I guess I should have gotten married and had 
kids 
after  getting out of high school or went into college or moved into 
Canada.   But no I went into the Navy then after getting out I went into  
college.
 
Thank you Secretary Bob.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/16/2015 7:09:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_wa2...@gmail.com_ (javascript:)  writes:

Hi Richard,  


It seems that you are between a rock and a hard place with the VA.  That is 
something that you must deal with but if there is ever a chance to  get rid 
of them for your meds or care then I don't need to go  further...


I wish you the best of luck.


18's.


Marty


On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H <_rbhuf...@gmail.com_ 
(javascript:) >  wrote:


Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to  get my 
medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see  an Oncologist get 
them 
to sing the prescription. Without the VA I  could not afford the Health 
Insurance copay until I could get assistance  from the Drug company.   He was 
the last one before I  took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I came back he 
decided he was  going to be my primary ONC  We had a discussion about who my  
Primary ONC was too be.  At that point he went rogue (like a raging  elephant.) 
 
I had to take a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they  could check the 
progress of the CML.  That is not going to help at  all.  My CBC+DIF has not 
shown 
any change since the CMLstarted  its Upward trend.  As of today it was 
decided that I start 300mg of  Gleevec. I contact my preferred ONC as soon I 
see 
any weight  gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is also building his own file 
to  assist me clear this hurdle..


I have several friends and family that have to go as they are  disabled 
Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or  PSD.


As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses.  


Richard H.

On  Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx  wrote:

Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for  treatment even for 
a hang nail, because I have had previous dealings  with them. They were 
recently in the news for everything that they  were not doing for most of us 
vets.  


When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the  doctors 
at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am  glad to see 
that you also have a true oncologist that is taking care  of you.


And, thank you for serving.


18's,


Marty





 

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard Hwrote:

I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is  at a new regional cancer 
center and i am completing 12 years of  treatment with.  The other is with 
the VA.  They are  assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be 
trying to treat  me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the  
specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood  Cancers.  I will 
start the procedures tomorrow to resolve  this.

Richard H.

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at  4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:  
Hi Richard and Jeanie  


I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope  your issues 
resolve soon
Best wishes Shannon

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at  11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com wrote: 
 
 
Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't  like for me to be 
informed either; he just ignores what I say  and goes on to tell me what he 
thinks.
My uric acid was high along with my WBC and  Platelets.  He seemed to be 
more concerned with the high  uric acid--even cal

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-17 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Thanks Marty your always such a great help to me and everyone  in our group.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/16/2015 10:47:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wa2...@gmail.com writes:

Greenie,  


I once had a problem with them and was refused some services that I  
required so I started a dispute and even if it took several months I  
prevailed. 
Some of the people working there think they have the only say in it  and at 
times they are wrong. Now you know why I don't want to deal with the VA  
anymore.


If you read what was going on there recently then you will see exactly  
what I mean. A lot of people were fired for not doing their jobs.


These people working there probably never saw any action in any war yet  
they think that they have the power over you.


Please let me know if anything happens after you complain.


Good luck!


18's,


Marty



On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
<_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) > wrote:


Marty,  I was planning to do just that.   Thanks.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/16/2015 7:22:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_wa2yyx@gmail.com_ (mailto:wa2...@gmail.com)  writes:

Greenie, if I were you I would appeal this decision. You have  absolutely 
nothing to loose.  
Now you know why I want nothing to do with the VA.


18's,


Marty


On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Myvety2k via  CMLHope 
<_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) > wrote:


Good morning Marty,  The VA, they are on my I  don't want to talk about 
list.
I received a letter last week to see if I'm  eligibility for choice card 
benefits.  So I call their number and  Secretary Bob left me a message 
thanking me for my years of  service.  I was in the Navy for 6 years, from 1956 
to 
1962, 3 years  of active duty and 3 years of active reserve.
 
I gave the women my information and she told me that  I I'm not eligibility 
for anything.  All I want is to get  hearing ads.  She told me that I make 
to much money, What, to much  money are you kidding me.  She said I make 
$238.00 a month to much  and I don't qualify.  When you turn in you income 
taxes they check  you income.  I guess I should have gotten married and had 
kids 
 after getting out of high school or went into college or moved into  
Canada.  But no I went into the Navy then after getting out I went  into 
college.
 
Thank you Secretary Bob.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/16/2015 7:09:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_wa2yyx@gmail.com_ (mailto:wa2...@gmail.com)  writes:

Hi Richard,  


It seems that you are between a rock and a hard place with the  VA. That is 
something that you must deal with but if there is ever a  chance to get rid 
of them for your meds or care then I don't need to  go further...


I wish you the best of luck.


18's.


Marty


On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  <_rbhuffman1@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:rbhuffm...@gmail.com) > wrote:


Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is  to get my 
medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced  to see an Oncologist get 
them 
to sing the prescription. Without  the VA I could not afford the Health 
Insurance copay until I could  get assistance from the Drug company.   He was 
the  last one before I took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I came  back he 
decided he was going to be my primary ONC  We had a  discussion about who my 
Primary ONC was too be.  At that point  he went rogue (like a raging elephant.) 
 
I had to take a blood  test (CBC+DIF) today so they could check the 
progress of the  CML.  That is not going to help at all.  My  CBC+DIF has not 
shown 
any change since the CMLstarted its  Upward trend.  As of today it was 
decided that I start 300mg of  Gleevec. I contact my preferred ONC as soon I 
see 
any weight  gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is also building his own file 
 to assist me clear this hurdle..


I have several friends and family that have to go as they are  disabled 
Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or  PSD.


As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine &  roses. 


Richard  H.

On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at  4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:

Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA  for treatment even for 
a hang nail, because I have had previous  dealings with them. They were 
recently in the news for everything  that they were not doing for most of us 
vets.  


When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of  the doctors 
at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this  field. I am glad to see 
that you also have a true oncologist that  is taking care of you.


And, thank you for serving.


18's,


Marty





 

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H   wrote:

I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One  is at a new regional cancer 
center and i am completing 12 years  of treatment with.  The other is with 
the VA.  They  are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be 
trying  to treat me, 

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-16 Thread Richard H

Thanks for your service, Greenie.  My active duty with the Navy from 7/58 
to 6/61.  I do not qualify for any thing except prescriptions. I served 5 
months in The Pacific Atomic range.  I arrived 6 months after the Big Mike 
test.  Since more people have those areas I applied for the atomic warrior 
program. The  DOD rejected me because I arrived after six months (by days) 
and too far from the blast area to have received radiation from the trade 
winds or from the tides coming from that area.  

Richard H.

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 6:34:56 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:

>  Good morning Marty,  The VA, they are on my I don't want to talk about 
> list.
> I received a letter last week to see if I'm eligibility for choice card 
> benefits.  So I call their number and Secretary Bob left me a message 
> thanking me for my years of service.  I was in the Navy for 6 years, from 
> 1956 to 1962, 3 years of active duty and 3 years of active reserve.
>  
> I gave the women my information and she told me that I I'm not eligibility 
> for anything.  All I want is to get hearing ads.  She told me that I make 
> to much money, What, to much money are you kidding me.  She said I make 
> $238.00 a month to much and I don't qualify.  When you turn in you income 
> taxes they check you income.  I guess I should have gotten married and had 
> kids after getting out of high school or went into college or moved into 
> Canada.  But no I went into the Navy then after getting out I went into 
> college.
>  
> Thank you Secretary Bob.
>  
> greenie
>  
>  In a message dated 1/16/2015 7:09:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> wa2...@gmail.com  writes:
>
> Hi Richard, 
>
> It seems that you are between a rock and a hard place with the VA. That is 
> something that you must deal with but if there is ever a chance to get rid 
> of them for your meds or care then I don't need to go further...
>
> I wish you the best of luck.
>
> 18's.
>
> Marty
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  > wrote:
>
>>  Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to get my 
>> medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see an Oncologist 
>> get them to sing the prescription. Without the VA I could not afford the 
>> Health Insurance copay until I could get assistance from the Drug 
>> company.   He was the last one before I took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I 
>> came back he decided he was going to be my primary ONC  We had a discussion 
>> about who my Primary ONC was too be.  At that point he went rogue (like a 
>> raging elephant.)  I had to take a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they could 
>> check the progress of the CML.  That is not going to help at all.  My 
>> CBC+DIF has not shown any change since the CMLstarted its Upward trend.  As 
>> of today it was decided that I start 300mg of Gleevec. I contact my 
>> preferred ONC as soon I see any weight gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is 
>> also building his own file to assist me clear this hurdle..
>>
>> I have several friends and family that have to go as they are disabled 
>> Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or PSD.
>>
>> As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses. 
>>
>> Richard H.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:
>>
>>> Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for treatment even 
>>> for a hang nail, because I have had previous dealings with them. They were 
>>> recently in the news for everything that they were not doing for most of us 
>>> vets. 
>>>
>>> When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the doctors 
>>> at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am glad to see 
>>> that you also have a true oncologist that is taking care of you.
>>>
>>> And, thank you for serving.
>>>
>>> 18's,
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:
>>>
 I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional 
 cancer center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other 
 is 
 with the VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be 
 trying to treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the 
 specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I 
 will start the procedures tomorrow to resolve this.

 Richard H.

 On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote: 
>
> Hi Richard and Jeanie 
>
> I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your 
> issues resolve soon
> Best wishes Shannon
>
> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com 
> wrote: 
>>
>>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me 
>> to be informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me 
>> what he thinks.
>> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to 
>

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-16 Thread Richard H
I do have that specialist as my Primary ONC.   I have been with him since 
Feb 2002.  In 2001 he had 3parientsd.  He has not missed a national 
conference in those years.  He has been with 3 different offices as he 
progressed,  This last one actually made him an ONC with the Kansas 
University Medical Cancer Center.  This is the newest regional center in 
the US.  My Problem is where I get my medicine and until I needed to get 
new meds he and the pharmacist decided they were not going to follow the 
recommendation of an outside dr.

Thanks for your concern, Grammie.  I've always loved a good debate, and I 
have a get team in place and we are building a case as his recommendations 
are off base so his ship is starting to leak.

Richard H.

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 10:28:44 PM UTC-6, grammie wrote:

> Richard,
> I don't know where you live, but I really wish you could find a CML 
> specialist to help you determine which medication is best for you.   
>  Regular ONCs just are not that familiar with the TKIs.  Also, there is an 
> organization that will pay for your TKI and you do not have to jump through 
> a lot of hoops.  If you want that information, please email me personally.
> Joyce in IL
>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:32 PM, Richard H wrote:
>
> Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to get my 
> medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see an Oncologist 
> get them to sing the prescription. Without the VA I could not afford the 
> Health Insurance copay until I could get assistance from the Drug 
> company.   He was the last one before I took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I 
> came back he decided he was going to be my primary ONC  We had a discussion 
> about who my Primary ONC was too be.  At that point he went rogue (like a 
> raging elephant.)  I had to take a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they could 
> check the progress of the CML.  That is not going to help at all.  My 
> CBC+DIF has not shown any change since the CMLstarted its Upward trend.  As 
> of today it was decided that I start 300mg of Gleevec. I contact my 
> preferred ONC as soon I see any weight gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is 
> also building his own file to assist me clear this hurdle..
>
> I have several friends and family that have to go as they are disabled 
> Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or PSD.
>
> As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses. 
>
> Richard H.
>
> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:
>
>> Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for treatment even for 
>> a hang nail, because I have had previous dealings with them. They were 
>> recently in the news for everything that they were not doing for most of us 
>> vets.
>>
>> When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the doctors 
>> at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am glad to see 
>> that you also have a true oncologist that is taking care of you.
>>
>> And, thank you for serving.
>>
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:
>>
>>> I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional 
>>> cancer center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other is 
>>> with the VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be 
>>> trying to treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the 
>>> specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I 
>>> will start the procedures tomorrow to resolve this.
>>>
>>> Richard H.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:

 Hi Richard and Jeanie

 I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your 
 issues resolve soon
 Best wishes Shannon

 On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com 
 wrote:
>
>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to 
> be informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me 
> what 
> he thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to 
> be more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell 
> personally twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's 
> funny the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  
> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let 
> everyone know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie 
> (18) 
>  
>

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-16 Thread Richard H
Thanks Marty..  Yes I I am.  Quoting the man we celebrate on Monday. "We 
shall overcome!".

Richard H. 

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 6:09:11 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> It seems that you are between a rock and a hard place with the VA. That is 
> something that you must deal with but if there is ever a chance to get rid 
> of them for your meds or care then I don't need to go further...
>
> I wish you the best of luck.
>
> 18's.
>
> Marty
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to get my 
>> medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see an Oncologist 
>> get them to sing the prescription. Without the VA I could not afford the 
>> Health Insurance copay until I could get assistance from the Drug 
>> company.   He was the last one before I took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I 
>> came back he decided he was going to be my primary ONC  We had a discussion 
>> about who my Primary ONC was too be.  At that point he went rogue (like a 
>> raging elephant.)  I had to take a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they could 
>> check the progress of the CML.  That is not going to help at all.  My 
>> CBC+DIF has not shown any change since the CMLstarted its Upward trend.  As 
>> of today it was decided that I start 300mg of Gleevec. I contact my 
>> preferred ONC as soon I see any weight gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is 
>> also building his own file to assist me clear this hurdle..
>>
>> I have several friends and family that have to go as they are disabled 
>> Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or PSD.
>>
>> As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses. 
>>
>> Richard H.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:
>>
>>> Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for treatment even 
>>> for a hang nail, because I have had previous dealings with them. They were 
>>> recently in the news for everything that they were not doing for most of us 
>>> vets.
>>>
>>> When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the doctors 
>>> at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am glad to see 
>>> that you also have a true oncologist that is taking care of you.
>>>
>>> And, thank you for serving.
>>>
>>> 18's,
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:
>>>
 I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional 
 cancer center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other 
 is 
 with the VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be 
 trying to treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the 
 specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I 
 will start the procedures tomorrow to resolve this.

 Richard H.

 On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:
>
> Hi Richard and Jeanie
>
> I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your 
> issues resolve soon
> Best wishes Shannon
>
> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com 
> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me 
>> to be informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me 
>> what he thinks.
>> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to 
>> be more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell 
>> personally twice; never had that happen before.
>> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's 
>> funny the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
>> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
>> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
>> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen? 
>>  
>> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
>> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let 
>> everyone know.
>> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
>> Pray for me and everyone in need.
>> Blessings
>> Jeanie 
>> (18) 
>>  
>>  
>>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will 
>> add my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 
>> pounds water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse 
>> called 
>> that he was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked 
>> with the DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he 
>> thought 
>> I was gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on 
>> Monday but finally had a conference with his Associ

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-16 Thread Joyce Mesnarich
Richard,
I don't know where you live, but I really wish you could find a CML specialist 
to help you determine which medication is best for you.Regular ONCs just 
are not that familiar with the TKIs.  Also, there is an organization that will 
pay for your TKI and you do not have to jump through a lot of hoops.  If you 
want that information, please email me personally.
Joyce in IL



On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:32 PM, Richard H wrote:

> Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to get my medicine. 
>  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see an Oncologist get them to 
> sing the prescription. Without the VA I could not afford the Health Insurance 
> copay until I could get assistance from the Drug company.   He was the last 
> one before I took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I came back he decided he was 
> going to be my primary ONC  We had a discussion about who my Primary ONC was 
> too be.  At that point he went rogue (like a raging elephant.)  I had to take 
> a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they could check the progress of the CML.  
> That is not going to help at all.  My CBC+DIF has not shown any change since 
> the CMLstarted its Upward trend.  As of today it was decided that I start 
> 300mg of Gleevec. I contact my preferred ONC as soon I see any weight gain.  
> Fortunately my Primary ONC is also building his own file to assist me clear 
> this hurdle..
> 
> I have several friends and family that have to go as they are disabled Vets.  
> Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or PSD.
> 
> As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses.
> 
> Richard H.
> 
> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:
> Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for treatment even for a 
> hang nail, because I have had previous dealings with them. They were recently 
> in the news for everything that they were not doing for most of us vets.
> 
> When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the doctors at 
> the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am glad to see that 
> you also have a true oncologist that is taking care of you.
> 
> And, thank you for serving.
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:
> I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional cancer 
> center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other is with the 
> VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be trying to 
> treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the specialist.  
> The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I will start the 
> procedures tomorrow to resolve this.
> 
> Richard H.
> 
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:
> Hi Richard and Jeanie
> 
> I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your issues 
> resolve soon
> Best wishes Shannon
> 
> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
> thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be more 
> concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell personally 
> twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny the 
> same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the Sprycel. 
>  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 years.  Is five 
> years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  Anyone else been on 
> Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let  everyone 
> know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie
> (18)
>  
>  
> In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:
> WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add my 
> problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds water 
> weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he was out 
> of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the DR. 
> covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was gaining 
> weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday but finally 
> had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that decision.  They 
> both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My ONC was to draft 
> an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my prescriptions) about my 
> reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the treatment he thinks I should be on.  
> So I am still in a wait and see stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed 
> about my condition and that challen

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-16 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Greenie,

I once had a problem with them and was refused some services that I
required so I started a dispute and even if it took several months I
prevailed. Some of the people working there think they have the only say in
it and at times they are wrong. Now you know why I don't want to deal with
the VA anymore.

If you read what was going on there recently then you will see exactly what
I mean. A lot of people were fired for not doing their jobs.

These people working there probably never saw any action in any war yet
they think that they have the power over you.

Please let me know if anything happens after you complain.

Good luck!

18's,

Marty

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>  Marty,  I was planning to do just that.  Thanks.
>
> greenie
>
>  In a message dated 1/16/2015 7:22:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Greenie, if I were you I would appeal this decision. You have absolutely
> nothing to loose.
> Now you know why I want nothing to do with the VA.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>  Good morning Marty,  The VA, they are on my I don't want to talk about
>> list.
>> I received a letter last week to see if I'm eligibility for choice card
>> benefits.  So I call their number and Secretary Bob left me a message
>> thanking me for my years of service.  I was in the Navy for 6 years, from
>> 1956 to 1962, 3 years of active duty and 3 years of active reserve.
>>
>> I gave the women my information and she told me that I I'm not
>> eligibility for anything.  All I want is to get hearing ads.  She told me
>> that I make to much money, What, to much money are you kidding me.  She
>> said I make $238.00 a month to much and I don't qualify.  When you turn in
>> you income taxes they check you income.  I guess I should have gotten
>> married and had kids after getting out of high school or went into college
>> or moved into Canada.  But no I went into the Navy then after getting out I
>> went into college.
>>
>> Thank you Secretary Bob.
>>
>> greenie
>>
>>  In a message dated 1/16/2015 7:09:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> It seems that you are between a rock and a hard place with the VA. That
>> is something that you must deal with but if there is ever a chance to get
>> rid of them for your meds or care then I don't need to go further...
>>
>> I wish you the best of luck.
>>
>> 18's.
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:
>>
>>>  Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to get my
>>> medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see an Oncologist
>>> get them to sing the prescription. Without the VA I could not afford the
>>> Health Insurance copay until I could get assistance from the Drug
>>> company.   He was the last one before I took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I
>>> came back he decided he was going to be my primary ONC  We had a discussion
>>> about who my Primary ONC was too be.  At that point he went rogue (like a
>>> raging elephant.)  I had to take a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they could
>>> check the progress of the CML.  That is not going to help at all.  My
>>> CBC+DIF has not shown any change since the CMLstarted its Upward trend.  As
>>> of today it was decided that I start 300mg of Gleevec. I contact my
>>> preferred ONC as soon I see any weight gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is
>>> also building his own file to assist me clear this hurdle..
>>>
>>> I have several friends and family that have to go as they are disabled
>>> Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or PSD.
>>>
>>> As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses.
>>>
>>> Richard H.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:
>>>
 Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for treatment even
 for a hang nail, because I have had previous dealings with them. They were
 recently in the news for everything that they were not doing for most of us
 vets.

 When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the
 doctors at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am glad
 to see that you also have a true oncologist that is taking care of you.

 And, thank you for serving.

 18's,

 Marty



 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:

> I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional
> cancer center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other 
> is
> with the VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be
> trying to treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the
> specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I
> will start the procedures tomorrow to resolve this.

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-16 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Marty,  I was planning to do just that.   Thanks.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/16/2015 7:22:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wa2...@gmail.com writes:

Greenie, if I were you I would appeal this decision. You have  absolutely 
nothing to loose.  
Now you know why I want nothing to do with the VA.


18's,


Marty


On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
<_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) > wrote:


Good morning Marty,  The VA, they are on my I don't  want to talk about 
list.
I received a letter last week to see if I'm eligibility  for choice card 
benefits.  So I call their number and Secretary Bob  left me a message 
thanking me for my years of service.  I was in the  Navy for 6 years, from 1956 
to 
1962, 3 years of active duty and 3 years of  active reserve.
 
I gave the women my information and she told me that  I I'm not eligibility 
for anything.  All I want is to get hearing  ads.  She told me that I make 
to much money, What, to much money are  you kidding me.  She said I make 
$238.00 a month to much and I don't  qualify.  When you turn in you income 
taxes they check you  income.  I guess I should have gotten married and had 
kids 
after  getting out of high school or went into college or moved into 
Canada.   But no I went into the Navy then after getting out I went into  
college.
 
Thank you Secretary Bob.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/16/2015 7:09:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_wa2yyx@gmail.com_ (mailto:wa2...@gmail.com)  writes:

Hi Richard,  


It seems that you are between a rock and a hard place with the VA.  That is 
something that you must deal with but if there is ever a chance to  get rid 
of them for your meds or care then I don't need to go  further...


I wish you the best of luck.


18's.


Marty


On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H <_rbhuffman1@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:rbhuffm...@gmail.com) > wrote:


Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to  get my 
medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see  an Oncologist get 
them 
to sing the prescription. Without the VA I  could not afford the Health 
Insurance copay until I could get assistance  from the Drug company.   He was 
the last one before I  took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I came back he 
decided he was  going to be my primary ONC  We had a discussion about who my  
Primary ONC was too be.  At that point he went rogue (like a raging  elephant.) 
 
I had to take a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they  could check the 
progress of the CML.  That is not going to help at  all.  My CBC+DIF has not 
shown 
any change since the CMLstarted  its Upward trend.  As of today it was 
decided that I start 300mg of  Gleevec. I contact my preferred ONC as soon I 
see 
any weight  gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is also building his own file 
to  assist me clear this hurdle..


I have several friends and family that have to go as they are  disabled 
Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or  PSD.


As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses.  


Richard H.

On  Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx  wrote:

Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for  treatment even for 
a hang nail, because I have had previous dealings  with them. They were 
recently in the news for everything that they  were not doing for most of us 
vets.  


When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the  doctors 
at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am  glad to see 
that you also have a true oncologist that is taking care  of you.


And, thank you for serving.


18's,


Marty





 

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard Hwrote:

I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is  at a new regional cancer 
center and i am completing 12 years of  treatment with.  The other is with 
the VA.  They are  assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be 
trying to treat  me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the  
specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood  Cancers.  I will 
start the procedures tomorrow to resolve  this.

Richard H.

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at  4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:  
Hi Richard and Jeanie  


I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope  your issues 
resolve soon
Best wishes Shannon

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at  11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com wrote: 
 
 
Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't  like for me to be 
informed either; he just ignores what I say  and goes on to tell me what he 
thinks.
My uric acid was high along with my WBC and  Platelets.  He seemed to be 
more concerned with the high  uric acid--even called me on my cell personally 
twice; never had  that happen before.
He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and  allopurinol; it's funny 
the same thing they did 11 years ago  when I was first dx.
He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation  a

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-16 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Greenie, if I were you I would appeal this decision. You have absolutely
nothing to loose.
Now you know why I want nothing to do with the VA.

18's,

Marty

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>  Good morning Marty,  The VA, they are on my I don't want to talk about
> list.
> I received a letter last week to see if I'm eligibility for choice card
> benefits.  So I call their number and Secretary Bob left me a message
> thanking me for my years of service.  I was in the Navy for 6 years, from
> 1956 to 1962, 3 years of active duty and 3 years of active reserve.
>
> I gave the women my information and she told me that I I'm not eligibility
> for anything.  All I want is to get hearing ads.  She told me that I make
> to much money, What, to much money are you kidding me.  She said I make
> $238.00 a month to much and I don't qualify.  When you turn in you income
> taxes they check you income.  I guess I should have gotten married and had
> kids after getting out of high school or went into college or moved into
> Canada.  But no I went into the Navy then after getting out I went into
> college.
>
> Thank you Secretary Bob.
>
> greenie
>
>  In a message dated 1/16/2015 7:09:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> It seems that you are between a rock and a hard place with the VA. That is
> something that you must deal with but if there is ever a chance to get rid
> of them for your meds or care then I don't need to go further...
>
> I wish you the best of luck.
>
> 18's.
>
> Marty
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:
>
>>  Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to get my
>> medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see an Oncologist
>> get them to sing the prescription. Without the VA I could not afford the
>> Health Insurance copay until I could get assistance from the Drug
>> company.   He was the last one before I took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I
>> came back he decided he was going to be my primary ONC  We had a discussion
>> about who my Primary ONC was too be.  At that point he went rogue (like a
>> raging elephant.)  I had to take a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they could
>> check the progress of the CML.  That is not going to help at all.  My
>> CBC+DIF has not shown any change since the CMLstarted its Upward trend.  As
>> of today it was decided that I start 300mg of Gleevec. I contact my
>> preferred ONC as soon I see any weight gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is
>> also building his own file to assist me clear this hurdle..
>>
>> I have several friends and family that have to go as they are disabled
>> Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or PSD.
>>
>> As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses.
>>
>> Richard H.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:
>>
>>> Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for treatment even
>>> for a hang nail, because I have had previous dealings with them. They were
>>> recently in the news for everything that they were not doing for most of us
>>> vets.
>>>
>>> When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the doctors
>>> at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am glad to see
>>> that you also have a true oncologist that is taking care of you.
>>>
>>> And, thank you for serving.
>>>
>>> 18's,
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:
>>>
 I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional
 cancer center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other is
 with the VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be
 trying to treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the
 specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I
 will start the procedures tomorrow to resolve this.

 Richard H.

 On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:
>
> Hi Richard and Jeanie
>
> I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your
> issues resolve soon
> Best wishes Shannon
>
> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com
> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me
>> to be informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me
>> what he thinks.
>> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to
>> be more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell
>> personally twice; never had that happen before.
>> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's
>> funny the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
>> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the
>> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation w

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-16 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
Got everything done-- had to spend all day__
Got to start a new med--ponatinib-- anyone take this?   Got to see if my 
insurance will pay

I see dr balducci at Moffitt.  He is the head of senior adult oncology there. 
Blood counts were good. 
Thanks for all your prayers. 
Very tired. 
Blessings 
Jeanie🌴🐟🐟

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2015, at 12:40 AM, Pete Pabon  wrote:
> 
> jeanie,  Who is your doctor at Moffitt
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 21:32:26 -0800
> From: rbhuffm...@gmail.com
> To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
> CC: icandoall...@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?
> 
> I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional cancer 
> center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other is with the 
> VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be trying to 
> treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the specialist.  
> The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I will start the 
> procedures tomorrow to resolve this.
> 
> Richard H.
> 
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:
> Hi Richard and Jeanie
> 
> I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your issues 
> resolve soon
> Best wishes Shannon
> 
> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
> thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be more 
> concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell personally 
> twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny the 
> same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the Sprycel. 
>  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 years.  Is five 
> years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  Anyone else been on 
> Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let everyone 
> know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie
> (18)
>  
>  
> In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:
> WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add my 
> problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds water 
> weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he was out 
> of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the DR. 
> covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was gaining 
> weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to theoffice on Monday but 
> finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that decision. 
>  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My ONC was to 
> draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my prescriptions) about my 
> reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the treatment he thinks I should be on.  
> So I am still in a wait and see stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed 
> about my condition and that challenges most blood cancer specialists  that
> rarely see CML. 
> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
> 
> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than today.
> 
> Richard H.  
> 
> 
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-16 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Good morning Marty,  The VA, they are on my I don't want  to talk about 
list.
I received a letter last week to see if I'm eligibility for  choice card 
benefits.  So I call their number and Secretary Bob left me a  message 
thanking me for my years of service.  I was in the Navy for 6  years, from 1956 
to 
1962, 3 years of active duty and 3 years of active  reserve.
 
I gave the women my information and she told me that  I I'm not eligibility 
for anything.  All I want is to get hearing  ads.  She told me that I make 
to much money, What, to much money are you  kidding me.  She said I make 
$238.00 a month to much and I don't  qualify.  When you turn in you income 
taxes they check you income.  I  guess I should have gotten married and had 
kids 
after getting out of high school  or went into college or moved into 
Canada.  But no I went into the Navy  then after getting out I went into 
college.
 
Thank you Secretary Bob.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/16/2015 7:09:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wa2...@gmail.com writes:

Hi Richard,  


It seems that you are between a rock and a hard place with the VA. That  is 
something that you must deal with but if there is ever a chance to get rid  
of them for your meds or care then I don't need to go further...


I wish you the best of luck.


18's.


Marty


On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H <_rbhuffman1@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:rbhuffm...@gmail.com) > wrote:


Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to get  my 
medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see an  Oncologist get 
them 
to sing the prescription. Without the VA I could  not afford the Health 
Insurance copay until I could get assistance from the  Drug company.   He was 
the last one before I took  6 1/2  year vacation.  Went I came back he 
decided he was going to be my  primary ONC  We had a discussion about who my 
Primary ONC was too  be.  At that point he went rogue (like a raging elephant.) 
 
I had  to take a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they could check the progress 
of the  CML.  That is not going to help at all.  My CBC+DIF has not  shown 
any change since the CMLstarted its Upward trend.  As of today it  was 
decided that I start 300mg of Gleevec. I contact my preferred ONC  as soon I 
see 
any weight gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is also  building his own file 
to assist me clear this hurdle..


I have several friends and family that have to go as they are disabled  
Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or PSD.


As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses.  


Richard  H.

On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM  UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:

Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for  treatment even for 
a hang nail, because I have had previous dealings with  them. They were 
recently in the news for everything that they were not  doing for most of us 
vets.  


When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the  doctors 
at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am glad  to see 
that you also have a true oncologist that is taking care of  you.


And, thank you for serving.


18's,


Marty





 

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:

I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a  new regional cancer 
center and i am completing 12 years of treatment  with.  The other is with 
the VA.  They are assigning me  underqualified Drs. that should not be 
trying to treat me, but only  approving the medication prescribed by the 
specialist.  The VA  Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I will 
start 
the  procedures tomorrow to resolve this.

Richard H.

On  Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:  
Hi Richard and Jeanie  


I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope  your issues 
resolve soon
Best wishes Shannon

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42  PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com wrote: 
 
 
Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like  for me to be 
informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on  to tell me what he 
thinks.
My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He  seemed to be 
more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me  on my cell personally 
twice; never had that happen before.
He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol;  it's funny 
the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first  dx.
He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation  against the 
Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation  with Gleevec after 5 years.  
Is 
five years a cut off point? Has  anyone else have this happen?  Anyone else 
been on Hydrea after  tki?
Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.   Will let 
everyone know.
The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
Pray for me and everyone in need.
Blessings
Jeanie 
(18) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard  Time, 
rbhuf...@gmail.com

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-16 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Richard,

It seems that you are between a rock and a hard place with the VA. That is
something that you must deal with but if there is ever a chance to get rid
of them for your meds or care then I don't need to go further...

I wish you the best of luck.

18's.

Marty

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:

> Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to get my
> medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see an Oncologist
> get them to sing the prescription. Without the VA I could not afford the
> Health Insurance copay until I could get assistance from the Drug
> company.   He was the last one before I took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I
> came back he decided he was going to be my primary ONC  We had a discussion
> about who my Primary ONC was too be.  At that point he went rogue (like a
> raging elephant.)  I had to take a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they could
> check the progress of the CML.  That is not going to help at all.  My
> CBC+DIF has not shown any change since the CMLstarted its Upward trend.  As
> of today it was decided that I start 300mg of Gleevec. I contact my
> preferred ONC as soon I see any weight gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is
> also building his own file to assist me clear this hurdle..
>
> I have several friends and family that have to go as they are disabled
> Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or PSD.
>
> As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses.
>
> Richard H.
>
> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:
>
>> Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for treatment even for
>> a hang nail, because I have had previous dealings with them. They were
>> recently in the news for everything that they were not doing for most of us
>> vets.
>>
>> When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the doctors
>> at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am glad to see
>> that you also have a true oncologist that is taking care of you.
>>
>> And, thank you for serving.
>>
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:
>>
>>> I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional
>>> cancer center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other is
>>> with the VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be
>>> trying to treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the
>>> specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I
>>> will start the procedures tomorrow to resolve this.
>>>
>>> Richard H.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:

 Hi Richard and Jeanie

 I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your
 issues resolve soon
 Best wishes Shannon

 On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com
 wrote:
>
>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to
> be informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what
> he thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to
> be more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell
> personally twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's
> funny the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the
> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5
> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?
> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let
> everyone know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie
> (18)
>
>
>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:
>
>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will
> add my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5
> pounds water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called
> that he was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked
> with the DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he 
> thought
> I was gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on
> Monday but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with
> that decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different
> treatment.  My ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one
> controlling my prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to 
> recommend
> the treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see
> stage.  My ONC tells me

RE: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Pete Pabon
jeanie,  Who is your doctor at Moffitt

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 21:32:26 -0800
From: rbhuffm...@gmail.com
To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
CC: icandoall...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional cancer 
center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other is with the 
VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be trying to 
treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the specialist.  The 
VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I will start the 
procedures tomorrow to resolve this.

Richard H.

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:Hi Richard 
and Jeanie
I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your issues 
resolve soonBest wishes Shannon

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com wrote:




Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to 
be informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
thinks.
My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to 
be more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell personally 
twice; never had that happen before.
He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny the 
same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this 
happen?  Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let 
everyone know.
The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
Pray for me and everyone in need.
Blessings
Jeanie 
(18) 
 
 

In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:

  
  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying 
  for the group.  I will add my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I 
  contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds water weight in 20 days after 
  restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he was out of the country on 
  vacation with his family.  She checked with the DR. covering for him and 
  he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was 
  gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the 
  office on Monday but finally had a conference with his Associate and he 
agreed 
  with that decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different 
  treatment.  My ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one 
  controlling my prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and 
  to recommend the treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am 
  still in a wait and see stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about 
  my condition and that challenges most blood cancer specialists  that 
  rarely see CML.  
  So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling 
  great, but the "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine 
days 
  off has cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for 
  me.
  

  As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be 
  beautiful and better than today.
  

  Richard H.  
  

  
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Richard H
Thanks for your service.  The only reason I use the VA is to get my 
medicine.  Seeing I am a cancer patient I am forced to see an Oncologist 
get them to sing the prescription. Without the VA I could not afford the 
Health Insurance copay until I could get assistance from the Drug 
company.   He was the last one before I took  6 1/2 year vacation.  Went I 
came back he decided he was going to be my primary ONC  We had a discussion 
about who my Primary ONC was too be.  At that point he went rogue (like a 
raging elephant.)  I had to take a blood test (CBC+DIF) today so they could 
check the progress of the CML.  That is not going to help at all.  My 
CBC+DIF has not shown any change since the CMLstarted its Upward trend.  As 
of today it was decided that I start 300mg of Gleevec. I contact my 
preferred ONC as soon I see any weight gain.  Fortunately my Primary ONC is 
also building his own file to assist me clear this hurdle..

I have several friends and family that have to go as they are disabled 
Vets.  Most are being treated for Agent Orange and/or PSD.

As Always. 18's and My your tomorrow be all sunshine & roses. 

Richard H.

On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:13:53 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:

> Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for treatment even for 
> a hang nail, because I have had previous dealings with them. They were 
> recently in the news for everything that they were not doing for most of us 
> vets.
>
> When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the doctors 
> at the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am glad to see 
> that you also have a true oncologist that is taking care of you.
>
> And, thank you for serving.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  > wrote:
>
>> I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional 
>> cancer center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other is 
>> with the VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be 
>> trying to treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the 
>> specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I 
>> will start the procedures tomorrow to resolve this.
>>
>> Richard H.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Richard and Jeanie
>>>
>>> I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your 
>>> issues resolve soon
>>> Best wishes Shannon
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com 
>>> wrote:

  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to 
 be informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what 
 he thinks.
 My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be 
 more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell 
 personally twice; never had that happen before.
 He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny 
 the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
 He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
 Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
 years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  
 Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
 Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let 
 everyone know.
 The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
 Pray for me and everyone in need.
 Blessings
 Jeanie 
 (18) 
  
  
  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
 rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:

  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will 
 add my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 
 pounds water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called 
 that he was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked 
 with the DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he 
 thought 
 I was gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on 
 Monday but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with 
 that decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different 
 treatment.  My ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one 
 controlling my prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to 
 recommend 
 the treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see 
 stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that 
 challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.  
 So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
 "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
 cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.

 As always, "life" and may y

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi again Greenie,

Like you said, don't look back but only forward.

By the way, I am an animal lover whether it be dogs, cats, birds or fish.

I am glad to hear that you threw back those fish where they belong.

18's,

Marty

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>  Marty, My aunt left me some stock and money and one of the stocks was
> Novartis and my stock guy told me to sell it.  That was before Gleevec was
> in any kind of study.  Because of him I also lost $43,000.00 and I pulled
> my money out and fired him. If I, would have, could of.  Of course I wish I
> would have kept some of my early Corvette's that I had I would be worth a
> more money then Novartis.  But can't look back, just look forward.
>
> Thanks for your reply, also I live in South Fort Myers not far from the
> beach.  In fact I went fishing yesterday by the beach and caught 8 fish.
> But I do not keep any, back into the water they go where they belong.
>
> greenie
>
>
>
>  In a message dated 1/15/2015 1:09:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Hi Greenie,
>
> First, where in Florida do you live? I am on the east coast, Boynton
> Beach. If we are not to far maybe we can do lunch one of these days. If my
> memory serves me right I think that you may be in Ft Meyers??? If so then I
> guess that lunch is out of the question...
>
> About STI571. Do you know how it came about? As everyone already knows Dr.
> Brian Druker who was the one that had first discovered it. He tried finding
> a drug company that would produce it and finally found Novartis which was
> at the time an agricultural drug company.
>
> One of Dr. Drukers patients was Zavie Miller who was trying out STI571 and
> it was working. Novartis didn't want to produce it in quantity because of
> the start up costs. Both Zavie and I got in touch with one of the
> principals of Novartis and told him that we may be able to bring a lot of
> investors into the company.
>
> At the time there was another CML site and we got on and asked if people
> would like to invest in the Novartis stock. At that time their stock price
> was $1,200 a share but there were also what is called American registry
> shares of Novartis that was selling for only $20.00 a share.
>
> Everyone started buying those shares and Novartis then started production
> but only after it was approved by the FDA which normally takes about 10
> years. With pressure being put on the FDA STI571 was approved in about one
> and a half years, and became Gleevec.
>
> I bought many shares of Gleevec at $20.00 a share and have nor will I ever
> sell them because of my support for Novartis. As of my December stock
> portfolio Novartis is listed at 92.6600. Novartis stock has continuously
> gone up and up over the years.
>
> I am however disappointed in the price they are getting, most notably
> there are people with CML that can not afford it. Now Novartis does have
> some options for those that are having a difficult time but it still would
> be nice if Novartis would look back at what they were and what they are
> now, and maybe consider dropping their price for Gleevec. Wishful thinking?
> Maybe but maybe not, hopefully...
>
> But Greenie, as you mentioned it is all about greed and money.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>  Thank you Marty,  Everything you wrote is so true about Gleevec and
>> CML.  It's unfortunate that greed and money has to be in the equations in
>> the final outcome.  After Interferon that almost killed me all that was
>> left was Hydrea.  So when Doctor Tallman called me and wanted be in his
>> study for STI571 I had no idea what was going on.  Within 3 months I was
>> 85% clean and after 6 months I was clean.  Yes their have been over the
>> years some up's and down's put that's part of life.  Like my late Aunt used
>> to always say when she was in her 80's I just take one day at a time.
>>
>> I wound like to see a cure in my life time because the old hour glass is
>> starting to run low on sand.. And the way these people drive here in
>> Florida the end could come anytime I leave the friendly confines and that's
>> not any guarantee because most of the people speed and run the stop signs
>> in this 55 and older community.
>>
>> Keep in touch,
>>
>> Greenie
>>
>>  In a message dated 1/15/2015 8:11:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>
>> Hi Greenie,
>>
>> So you have been on Gleevec for 15 years. That is something good to know
>> because what would you have done without Gleevec? This drug is responsible
>> for saving countless lives. Thank GOD it is here or you wouldn't be here
>> right now.
>>
>> If it weren't for dialysis neither would I be here right now. This is the
>> advancement of what medicine has on our lives today. I always say that
>> there will be a cure for CML and you can mark my words it WILL come soon.
>> Just

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Marty, by the way my first Doctor at Northwestern, Dr.  Tallman worked with 
Doctor Druker.  He left their and went to  Chicago.  Now he's at Cornell 
University.  My Doctor now in Chicago is  the same one that Susan has, Dr. 
Altman.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/15/2015 1:09:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wa2...@gmail.com writes:

Hi Greenie,  


First, where in Florida do you live? I am on the east coast, Boynton  
Beach. If we are not to far maybe we can do lunch one of these days. If my  
memory serves me right I think that you may be in Ft Meyers??? If so then I  
guess that lunch is out of the question...


About STI571. Do you know how it came about? As everyone already knows  Dr. 
Brian Druker who was the one that had first discovered it. He tried  
finding a drug company that would produce it and finally found Novartis which  
was 
at the time an agricultural drug company. 


One of Dr. Drukers patients was Zavie Miller who was trying out STI571  and 
it was working. Novartis didn't want to produce it in quantity because of  
the start up costs. Both Zavie and I got in touch with one of the principals 
 of Novartis and told him that we may be able to bring a lot of investors 
into  the company. 


At the time there was another CML site and we got on and asked if people  
would like to invest in the Novartis stock. At that time their stock price 
was  $1,200 a share but there were also what is called American registry 
shares of  Novartis that was selling for only $20.00 a share. 


Everyone started buying those shares and Novartis then started production  
but only after it was approved by the FDA which normally takes about 10 
years.  With pressure being put on the FDA STI571 was approved in about one and 
a half  years, and became Gleevec.


I bought many shares of Gleevec at $20.00 a share and have nor will I  ever 
sell them because of my support for Novartis. As of my December stock  
portfolio Novartis is listed at 92.6600. Novartis stock has continuously gone  
up and up over the years.  


I am however disappointed in the price they are getting, most notably  
there are people with CML that can not afford it. Now Novartis does have some  
options for those that are having a difficult time but it still would be nice 
 if Novartis would look back at what they were and what they are now, and 
maybe  consider dropping their price for Gleevec. Wishful thinking? Maybe but 
maybe  not, hopefully...


But Greenie, as you mentioned it is all about greed and money.


18's,


Marty


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
<_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) > wrote:


Thank you Marty,  Everything you wrote is so  true about Gleevec and CML.  
It's unfortunate that greed and money has  to be in the equations in the 
final outcome.  After Interferon that  almost killed me all that was left was 
Hydrea.  So when Doctor Tallman  called me and wanted be in his study for 
STI571 I had no idea what was going  on.  Within 3 months I was 85% clean and 
after 6 months I was  clean.  Yes their have been over the years some up's 
and down's put  that's part of life.  Like my late Aunt used to always say 
when  she was in her 80's I just take one day at a time.  
 
I wound like to see a cure in my life time because the old  hour glass is 
starting to run low on sand.. And the way these people drive  here in Florida 
the end could come anytime I leave the friendly  confines and that's not 
any guarantee because most of the people speed  and run the stop signs in this 
55 and older community.
 
Keep in touch,
 
Greenie
 
 

 
In a message dated 1/15/2015 8:11:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_wa2yyx@gmail.com_ (mailto:wa2...@gmail.com)  writes:


Hi Greenie,


So you have been on Gleevec for 15 years. That is something good to  know 
because what would you have done without Gleevec? This drug is  responsible 
for saving countless lives. Thank GOD it is here or you  wouldn't be here 
right now. 


If it weren't for dialysis neither would I be here right now. This is  the 
advancement of what medicine has on our lives today. I always say that  
there will be a cure for CML and you can mark my words it WILL come soon.  Just 
like all of the things that were not around years ago now they are  coming.


GOD bless you Greenie!


18's,


Marty 


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Shannon L <_shannonl.camden@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:shannonl.cam...@gmail.com) > wrote:

Hi Greenie 15 yrs on glivec,  i will be 14yrs this yr  (started roughly 3 
yrs after dx)  
Shannon

On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 12:11:08 AM UTC+11,  greenie wrote:  
 
Jeanie, as of Jan. 10th I will have been on Gleevec  for 15 years. Starting 
to retain fluid around my ankles a little but  that could be and age thing. 
75 years old.
 
greenie
 
 

 
In a message dated 1/9/2015 7:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cml...@googlegroups.com writes:

Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like  for

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Marty, My aunt left me some stock and money and one of the  stocks was 
Novartis and my stock guy told me to sell it.  That was before  Gleevec was in 
any kind of study.  Because of him I also lost $43,000.00  and I pulled my 
money out and fired him. If I, would have, could of.  Of  course I wish I 
would have kept some of my early Corvette's that I had I would  be worth a more 
money then Novartis.  But can't look back, just look  forward.
 
Thanks for your reply, also I live in South Fort Myers  not far from the 
beach.  In fact I went fishing yesterday by the beach and  caught 8 fish.  But 
I do not keep any, back into the water they go  where they belong.
 
greenie
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/15/2015 1:09:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wa2...@gmail.com writes:

Hi Greenie,  


First, where in Florida do you live? I am on the east coast, Boynton  
Beach. If we are not to far maybe we can do lunch one of these days. If my  
memory serves me right I think that you may be in Ft Meyers??? If so then I  
guess that lunch is out of the question...


About STI571. Do you know how it came about? As everyone already knows  Dr. 
Brian Druker who was the one that had first discovered it. He tried  
finding a drug company that would produce it and finally found Novartis which  
was 
at the time an agricultural drug company. 


One of Dr. Drukers patients was Zavie Miller who was trying out STI571  and 
it was working. Novartis didn't want to produce it in quantity because of  
the start up costs. Both Zavie and I got in touch with one of the principals 
 of Novartis and told him that we may be able to bring a lot of investors 
into  the company. 


At the time there was another CML site and we got on and asked if people  
would like to invest in the Novartis stock. At that time their stock price 
was  $1,200 a share but there were also what is called American registry 
shares of  Novartis that was selling for only $20.00 a share. 


Everyone started buying those shares and Novartis then started production  
but only after it was approved by the FDA which normally takes about 10 
years.  With pressure being put on the FDA STI571 was approved in about one and 
a half  years, and became Gleevec.


I bought many shares of Gleevec at $20.00 a share and have nor will I  ever 
sell them because of my support for Novartis. As of my December stock  
portfolio Novartis is listed at 92.6600. Novartis stock has continuously gone  
up and up over the years.  


I am however disappointed in the price they are getting, most notably  
there are people with CML that can not afford it. Now Novartis does have some  
options for those that are having a difficult time but it still would be nice 
 if Novartis would look back at what they were and what they are now, and 
maybe  consider dropping their price for Gleevec. Wishful thinking? Maybe but 
maybe  not, hopefully...


But Greenie, as you mentioned it is all about greed and money.


18's,


Marty


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
<_cmlhope@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:cmlhope@googlegroups.com) > wrote:


Thank you Marty,  Everything you wrote is so  true about Gleevec and CML.  
It's unfortunate that greed and money has  to be in the equations in the 
final outcome.  After Interferon that  almost killed me all that was left was 
Hydrea.  So when Doctor Tallman  called me and wanted be in his study for 
STI571 I had no idea what was going  on.  Within 3 months I was 85% clean and 
after 6 months I was  clean.  Yes their have been over the years some up's 
and down's put  that's part of life.  Like my late Aunt used to always say 
when  she was in her 80's I just take one day at a time.  
 
I wound like to see a cure in my life time because the old  hour glass is 
starting to run low on sand.. And the way these people drive  here in Florida 
the end could come anytime I leave the friendly  confines and that's not 
any guarantee because most of the people speed  and run the stop signs in this 
55 and older community.
 
Keep in touch,
 
Greenie
 
 

 
In a message dated 1/15/2015 8:11:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_wa2yyx@gmail.com_ (mailto:wa2...@gmail.com)  writes:


Hi Greenie,


So you have been on Gleevec for 15 years. That is something good to  know 
because what would you have done without Gleevec? This drug is  responsible 
for saving countless lives. Thank GOD it is here or you  wouldn't be here 
right now. 


If it weren't for dialysis neither would I be here right now. This is  the 
advancement of what medicine has on our lives today. I always say that  
there will be a cure for CML and you can mark my words it WILL come soon.  Just 
like all of the things that were not around years ago now they are  coming.


GOD bless you Greenie!


18's,


Marty 


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Shannon L <_shannonl.camden@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:shannonl.cam...@gmail.com) > wrote:

Hi Greenie 15 yrs on glivec,  i will be 14yrs this yr  (started roughly 3 
yrs af

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Greenie,

First, where in Florida do you live? I am on the east coast, Boynton Beach.
If we are not to far maybe we can do lunch one of these days. If my memory
serves me right I think that you may be in Ft Meyers??? If so then I guess
that lunch is out of the question...

About STI571. Do you know how it came about? As everyone already knows Dr.
Brian Druker who was the one that had first discovered it. He tried finding
a drug company that would produce it and finally found Novartis which was
at the time an agricultural drug company.

One of Dr. Drukers patients was Zavie Miller who was trying out STI571 and
it was working. Novartis didn't want to produce it in quantity because of
the start up costs. Both Zavie and I got in touch with one of the
principals of Novartis and told him that we may be able to bring a lot of
investors into the company.

At the time there was another CML site and we got on and asked if people
would like to invest in the Novartis stock. At that time their stock price
was $1,200 a share but there were also what is called American registry
shares of Novartis that was selling for only $20.00 a share.

Everyone started buying those shares and Novartis then started production
but only after it was approved by the FDA which normally takes about 10
years. With pressure being put on the FDA STI571 was approved in about one
and a half years, and became Gleevec.

I bought many shares of Gleevec at $20.00 a share and have nor will I ever
sell them because of my support for Novartis. As of my December stock
portfolio Novartis is listed at 92.6600. Novartis stock has continuously
gone up and up over the years.

I am however disappointed in the price they are getting, most notably there
are people with CML that can not afford it. Now Novartis does have some
options for those that are having a difficult time but it still would be
nice if Novartis would look back at what they were and what they are now,
and maybe consider dropping their price for Gleevec. Wishful thinking?
Maybe but maybe not, hopefully...

But Greenie, as you mentioned it is all about greed and money.

18's,

Marty

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>  Thank you Marty,  Everything you wrote is so true about Gleevec and
> CML.  It's unfortunate that greed and money has to be in the equations in
> the final outcome.  After Interferon that almost killed me all that was
> left was Hydrea.  So when Doctor Tallman called me and wanted be in his
> study for STI571 I had no idea what was going on.  Within 3 months I was
> 85% clean and after 6 months I was clean.  Yes their have been over the
> years some up's and down's put that's part of life.  Like my late Aunt used
> to always say when she was in her 80's I just take one day at a time.
>
> I wound like to see a cure in my life time because the old hour glass is
> starting to run low on sand.. And the way these people drive here in
> Florida the end could come anytime I leave the friendly confines and that's
> not any guarantee because most of the people speed and run the stop signs
> in this 55 and older community.
>
> Keep in touch,
>
> Greenie
>
>  In a message dated 1/15/2015 8:11:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>
>
> Hi Greenie,
>
> So you have been on Gleevec for 15 years. That is something good to know
> because what would you have done without Gleevec? This drug is responsible
> for saving countless lives. Thank GOD it is here or you wouldn't be here
> right now.
>
> If it weren't for dialysis neither would I be here right now. This is the
> advancement of what medicine has on our lives today. I always say that
> there will be a cure for CML and you can mark my words it WILL come soon.
> Just like all of the things that were not around years ago now they are
> coming.
>
> GOD bless you Greenie!
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Shannon L 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Greenie 15 yrs on glivec,  i will be 14yrs this yr (started roughly 3
>> yrs after dx)
>> Shannon
>>
>> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 12:11:08 AM UTC+11, greenie wrote:
>>>
>>>  Jeanie, as of Jan. 10th I will have been on Gleevec for 15 years.
>>> Starting to retain fluid around my ankles a little but that could be and
>>> age thing. 75 years old.
>>>
>>> greenie
>>>
>>>  In a message dated 1/9/2015 7:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> cml...@googlegroups.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be
>>> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he
>>> thinks.
>>> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be
>>> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell
>>> personally twice; never had that happen before.
>>> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny
>>> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
>>> He took another blood sample to see if I have

Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Tim Cannon
On Wednesday, January 14, 2015, Richard H  wrote:

> I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional cancer
> center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other is with
> the VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be
> trying to treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the
> specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I
> will start the procedures tomorrow to resolve this.
>
> Richard H.
>
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:
>>
>> Hi Richard and Jeanie
>>
>> I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your issues
>> resolve soon
>> Best wishes Shannon
>>
>> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to
>>> be informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what
>>> he thinks.
>>> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be
>>> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell
>>> personally twice; never had that happen before.
>>> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny
>>> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
>>> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the
>>> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5
>>> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?
>>> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
>>> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let
>>> everyone know.
>>> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
>>> Pray for me and everyone in need.
>>> Blessings
>>> Jeanie
>>> (18)
>>>
>>>
>>>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add
>>> my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds
>>> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he
>>> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the
>>> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was
>>> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday
>>> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that
>>> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My
>>> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my
>>> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the
>>> treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see
>>> stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that
>>> challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.
>>> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the
>>> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has
>>> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>>>
>>> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than
>>> today.
>>>
>>> Richard H.
>>>
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Thank you Marty,  Everything you wrote is so true  about Gleevec and CML.  
It's unfortunate that greed and money has to be in  the equations in the 
final outcome.  After Interferon that almost killed me  all that was left was 
Hydrea.  So when Doctor Tallman called me and wanted  be in his study for 
STI571 I had no idea what was going on.  Within 3  months I was 85% clean and 
after 6 months I was clean.  Yes their have been  over the years some up's 
and down's put that's part of life.  Like my  late Aunt used to always say 
when she was in her 80's I just take one day at a  time.  
 
I wound like to see a cure in my life time because the old  hour glass is 
starting to run low on sand.. And the way these people drive here  in Florida 
the end could come anytime I leave the friendly confines and  that's not 
any guarantee because most of the people speed and run the stop  signs in this 
55 and older community.
 
Keep in touch,
 
Greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/15/2015 8:11:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wa2...@gmail.com writes:


Hi Greenie,


So you have been on Gleevec for 15 years. That is something good to know  
because what would you have done without Gleevec? This drug is responsible 
for  saving countless lives. Thank GOD it is here or you wouldn't be here 
right  now. 


If it weren't for dialysis neither would I be here right now. This is the  
advancement of what medicine has on our lives today. I always say that there 
 will be a cure for CML and you can mark my words it WILL come soon. Just 
like  all of the things that were not around years ago now they are coming.


GOD bless you Greenie!


18's,


Marty 


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Shannon L <_shannonl.camden@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:shannonl.cam...@gmail.com) > wrote:

Hi Greenie 15 yrs on glivec,  i will be 14yrs this yr  (started roughly 3 
yrs after dx)  
Shannon

On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 12:11:08 AM UTC+11,  greenie wrote:  
 
Jeanie, as of Jan. 10th I will have been on Gleevec for  15 years. Starting 
to retain fluid around my ankles a little but that  could be and age thing. 
75 years old.
 
greenie
 
 

 
In a message dated 1/9/2015 7:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cml...@googlegroups.com writes:

Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for  me to be 
informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell  me what he 
thinks.
My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He  seemed to be 
more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on  my cell personally 
twice; never had that happen before.
He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's  funny 
the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against  the 
Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec  after 5 years.  
Is 
five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have  this happen?  Anyone else 
been on Hydrea after tki?
Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.   Will let 
everyone know.
The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
Pray for me and everyone in need.
Blessings
Jeanie 
(18) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:

 
WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am  praying for the group.  I will add my 
problem to the list.   Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds 
water weight in 20  days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he 
was 
out  of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the  DR. 
covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I  was 
gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did  return to the office on Monday but 
finally had a conference with his  Associate and he agreed with that decision. 
 They both thought  that I should be on a different treatment.  My ONC was 
to  draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my prescriptions)  
about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the  treatment he thinks I 
should be on.  So I am still in a wait  and see stage.  My ONC tells me I am 
too 
informed about my  condition and that challenges most blood cancer 
specialists  that  rarely see CML.  
So let the fun and games continue.  I am still  feeling great, but the 
"Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show  itself, but nine days off has 
cleared 
it. I'm as sharp as a busted  tack, but that is "normal" for me.


As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be  beautiful and better than today.


Richard H.  



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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Hi Greenie,

So you have been on Gleevec for 15 years. That is something good to know
because what would you have done without Gleevec? This drug is responsible
for saving countless lives. Thank GOD it is here or you wouldn't be here
right now.

If it weren't for dialysis neither would I be here right now. This is the
advancement of what medicine has on our lives today. I always say that
there will be a cure for CML and you can mark my words it WILL come soon.
Just like all of the things that were not around years ago now they are
coming.

GOD bless you Greenie!

18's,

Marty

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Shannon L 
wrote:

> Hi Greenie 15 yrs on glivec,  i will be 14yrs this yr (started roughly 3
> yrs after dx)
> Shannon
>
> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 12:11:08 AM UTC+11, greenie wrote:
>>
>>  Jeanie, as of Jan. 10th I will have been on Gleevec for 15 years.
>> Starting to retain fluid around my ankles a little but that could be and
>> age thing. 75 years old.
>>
>> greenie
>>
>>  In a message dated 1/9/2015 7:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> cml...@googlegroups.com writes:
>>
>> Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be
>> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he
>> thinks.
>> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be
>> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell
>> personally twice; never had that happen before.
>> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny
>> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
>> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the
>> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5
>> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?
>> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
>> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let
>> everyone know.
>> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
>> Pray for me and everyone in need.
>> Blessings
>> Jeanie
>> (18)
>>
>>
>>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add
>> my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds
>> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he
>> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the
>> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was
>> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday
>> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that
>> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My
>> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my
>> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the
>> treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see
>> stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that
>> challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.
>> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the
>> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has
>> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>>
>> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than
>> today.
>>
>> Richard H.
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Shannon L
Hi Greenie 15 yrs on glivec,  i will be 14yrs this yr (started roughly 3 
yrs after dx)
Shannon

On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 12:11:08 AM UTC+11, greenie wrote:
>
>  Jeanie, as of Jan. 10th I will have been on Gleevec for 15 years. 
> Starting to retain fluid around my ankles a little but that could be and 
> age thing. 75 years old.
>  
> greenie
>  
>  In a message dated 1/9/2015 7:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cml...@googlegroups.com  writes:
>
> Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
> thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be 
> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell 
> personally twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny 
> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  
> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let 
> everyone know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie 
> (18) 
>  
>  
>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> rbhuf...@gmail.com  writes:
>
>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add 
> my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds 
> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he 
> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the 
> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was 
> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday 
> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that 
> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My 
> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my 
> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the 
> treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see 
> stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that 
> challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.  
> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>
> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than today.
>
> Richard H.  
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-15 Thread Marty Gartenberg
Richard, I am a vet and I would never go to the VA for treatment even for a
hang nail, because I have had previous dealings with them. They were
recently in the news for everything that they were not doing for most of us
vets.

When someone has CML or any other major disease then most of the doctors at
the VA are not skilled or even trained in this field. I am glad to see that
you also have a true oncologist that is taking care of you.

And, thank you for serving.

18's,

Marty



On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Richard H  wrote:

> I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional cancer
> center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other is with
> the VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be
> trying to treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the
> specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I
> will start the procedures tomorrow to resolve this.
>
> Richard H.
>
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:
>>
>> Hi Richard and Jeanie
>>
>> I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your issues
>> resolve soon
>> Best wishes Shannon
>>
>> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to
>>> be informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what
>>> he thinks.
>>> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be
>>> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell
>>> personally twice; never had that happen before.
>>> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny
>>> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
>>> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the
>>> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5
>>> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?
>>> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
>>> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let
>>> everyone know.
>>> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
>>> Pray for me and everyone in need.
>>> Blessings
>>> Jeanie
>>> (18)
>>>
>>>
>>>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add
>>> my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds
>>> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he
>>> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the
>>> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was
>>> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday
>>> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that
>>> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My
>>> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my
>>> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the
>>> treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see
>>> stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that
>>> challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.
>>> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the
>>> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has
>>> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>>>
>>> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than
>>> today.
>>>
>>> Richard H.
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-14 Thread Richard H
I am my own advocate,  I do have two ONCs. One is at a new regional cancer 
center and i am completing 12 years of treatment with.  The other is with 
the VA.  They are assigning me underqualified Drs. that should not be 
trying to treat me, but only approving the medication prescribed by the 
specialist.  The VA Doctor has no actual experience in Blood Cancers.  I 
will start the procedures tomorrow to resolve this.

Richard H.

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-6, Shannon L wrote:
>
> Hi Richard and Jeanie
>
> I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your issues 
> resolve soon
> Best wishes Shannon
>
> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
>> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
>> thinks.
>> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be 
>> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell 
>> personally twice; never had that happen before.
>> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny 
>> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
>> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
>> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
>> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  
>> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
>> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let 
>> everyone know.
>> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
>> Pray for me and everyone in need.
>> Blessings
>> Jeanie 
>> (18) 
>>  
>>  
>>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> rbhuf...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add 
>> my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds 
>> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he 
>> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the 
>> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was 
>> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday 
>> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that 
>> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My 
>> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my 
>> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the 
>> treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see 
>> stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that 
>> challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.  
>> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
>> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
>> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>>
>> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than 
>> today.
>>
>> Richard H.  
>>
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-14 Thread Shannon L
Hi Richard and Jeanie

I would think that they would want you to be informed. I hope your issues 
resolve soon
Best wishes Shannon

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+11, icando...@aol.com wrote:
>
>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
> thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be 
> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell 
> personally twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny 
> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  
> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let 
> everyone know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie 
> (18) 
>  
>  
>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> rbhuf...@gmail.com  writes:
>
>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add 
> my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds 
> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he 
> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the 
> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was 
> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday 
> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that 
> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My 
> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my 
> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the 
> treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see 
> stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that 
> challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.  
> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>
> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than today.
>
> Richard H.  
>
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-11 Thread bkbarney via CMLHope
Jeannie, Please let us know how the test results came out. Thinking of you. Beth



-Original Message-
From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope 
To: cmlhope 
Sent: Sat, Jan 10, 2015 9:45 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?



Thanks Joyce 
Yes I'm going to have another BMT fri.  
They will find out what's going on. 
Staying positive and trusting in The Lord. 
Blessings 
Jeanie
18's 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:47 AM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:



Jeanie,
So sorry to hear about your set-back.  Glad you are going to Moffitt to try to 
sort things out.  Remember that we have several other drugs to use.just 
have to get over this rough patch.  you are in my prayers and thoughts.
  Joyce in IL






Begin forwarded message:


From: ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope 

Date: January 9, 2015 6:53:38 AM CST

To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

Reply-To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com



Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
thinks.
My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be more 
concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell personally twice; 
never had that happen before.
He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny the 
same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the Sprycel.  
It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 years.  Is five 
years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  Anyone else been on 
Hydrea after tki?
Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let everyone 
know.
The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
Pray for me and everyone in need.
Blessings
Jeanie 
(18) 
 
 

In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
rbhuffm...@gmail.com writes:
  
  
WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying   for the group.  I will add my 
problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I   contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds water 
weight in 20 days after   restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he was out 
of the country on   vacation with his family.  She checked with the DR. 
covering for him and   he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was   
gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the   office on Monday but 
finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed   with that decision. 
 They both thought that I should be on a different   treatment.  My ONC was to 
draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one   controlling my prescriptions) about my 
reaction to Gleevec and   to recommend the treatment he thinks I should be on.  
So I am   still in a wait and see stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed 
about   my condition and that challenges most blood cancer specialists  that   
rarely see CML.  
  
So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling   great, but the 
"Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days   off has 
cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for   me.
  


  
As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be   beautiful and better than today.
  


  
Richard H.  
  





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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-11 Thread Marty Gartenberg
I'm praying for you Jeanie. Good luck!

Multipal  18's

Marty

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:45 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks Joyce
> Yes I'm going to have another BMT fri.
> They will find out what's going on.
> Staying positive and trusting in The Lord.
> Blessings
> Jeanie
> 18's [image: 🐟]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:47 AM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
>
> Jeanie,
> So sorry to hear about your set-back.  Glad you are going to Moffitt to
> try to sort things out.  Remember that we have several other drugs to
> use.just have to get over this rough patch.  you are in my prayers and
> thoughts.
>   Joyce in IL
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope 
> *Date: *January 9, 2015 6:53:38 AM CST
> *To: *cmlhope@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: **Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on
> tkis?*
> *Reply-To: *cmlhope@googlegroups.com
>
>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be
> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he
> thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be
> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell
> personally twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny
> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the
> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5
> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?
> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let
> everyone know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie
> (18)
>
>
>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> rbhuffm...@gmail.com writes:
>
>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add
> my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds
> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he
> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the
> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was
> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday
> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that
> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My
> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my
> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the
> treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see
> stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that
> challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.
> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the
> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has
> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>
> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than today.
>
> Richard H.
>
>
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-10 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
Thanks Joyce 
Yes I'm going to have another BMT fri.  
They will find out what's going on. 
Staying positive and trusting in The Lord. 
Blessings 
Jeanie
18's 🐟

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> On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:47 AM, Joyce Mesnarich  wrote:
> 
> Jeanie,
> So sorry to hear about your set-back.  Glad you are going to Moffitt to try 
> to sort things out.  Remember that we have several other drugs to 
> use.just have to get over this rough patch.  you are in my prayers and 
> thoughts.
>   Joyce in IL
> 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope 
>> Date: January 9, 2015 6:53:38 AM CST
>> To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?
>> Reply-To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
>> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
>> thinks.
>> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be more 
>> concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell personally 
>> twice; never had that happen before.
>> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny the 
>> same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
>> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
>> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 years. 
>>  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  Anyone 
>> else been on Hydrea after tki?
>> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let everyone 
>> know.
>> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
>> Pray for me and everyone in need.
>> Blessings
>> Jeanie
>> (18)
>>  
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> rbhuffm...@gmail.com writes:
>> WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add my 
>> problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds water 
>> weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he was 
>> out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the DR. 
>> covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was gaining 
>> weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday but 
>> finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that 
>> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My 
>> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the onecontrolling my 
>> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the treatment 
>> he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see stage.  My ONC 
>> tells me I am too informed about my condition and that challenges most blood 
>> cancer specialists  that rarely see CML. 
>> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
>> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
>> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>> 
>> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than today.
>> 
>> Richard H.  
>> 
>> 
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-09 Thread Richard H

Congratulations on 15 years.  I was one that put on 25-30 pounds of water 
retention in 5 1/2 years.  After I stopped Gleevec I lost the 25-30 pounds 
in less than 90 days.  When I went back on Gleevec in December I gained 9.5 
pounds in 20 days. Let's not talk about the age thing.  I am only 74 1/2 
years old and just getting started on my 2nd childhood.  I do think my 
caretaker has the impossible task to complete.  ( "HA HA HA"  Woody 
Woodpecker)

Richard H.


On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 7:11:08 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:

>  Jeanie, as of Jan. 10th I will have been on Gleevec for 15 years. 
> Starting to retain fluid around my ankles a little but that could be and 
> age thing. 75 years old.
>  
> greenie
>  
>  In a message dated 1/9/2015 7:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cml...@googlegroups.com  writes:
>
> Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
> thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be 
> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell 
> personally twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny 
> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  
> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let 
> everyone know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie 
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>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
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>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add 
> my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds 
> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he 
> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the 
> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was 
> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday 
> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that 
> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My 
> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my 
> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the 
> treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see 
> stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that 
> challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.  
> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>
> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than today.
>
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-09 Thread Richard H
Yes, Gleevec started failing me at 4 1/2 years and I stopped treatment at 
5  1/2.

Richard H.

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 6:53:42 AM UTC-6, icando...@aol.com wrote:

>  Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
> thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be 
> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell 
> personally twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny 
> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  
> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let 
> everyone know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie 
> (18) 
>  
>  
>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> rbhuf...@gmail.com  writes:
>
>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add 
> my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds 
> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he 
> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the 
> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was 
> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday 
> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that 
> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My 
> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my 
> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the 
> treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see 
> stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that 
> challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.  
> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>
> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than today.
>
> Richard H.  
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-09 Thread 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope
Hi Greenie and thanks. 
I knew you were one of the successful gleevec patients. 
So happy for you. 
Blessings
Jeanie

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> On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope  
> wrote:
> 
> Jeanie, as of Jan. 10th I will have been on Gleevec for 15 years. Starting to 
> retain fluid around my ankles a little but that could be and age thing. 75 
> years old.
>  
> greenie
>  
> In a message dated 1/9/2015 7:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
> Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
> thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be more 
> concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell personally 
> twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny the 
> same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the Sprycel. 
>  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 years.  Is five 
> years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  Anyone else been on 
> Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let everyone 
> know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie
> (18)
>  
>  
> In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> rbhuffm...@gmail.com writes:
> WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add my 
> problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds water 
> weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he was out 
> of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the DR. 
> covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was gaining 
> weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday but finally 
> had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that decision.  They 
> both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My ONC was to draft 
> an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my prescriptions) about my 
> reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the treatment he thinks I should be on.  
> So I am still in a wait and see stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed 
> about my condition and that challenges most blood cancer specialists  that 
> rarely see CML. 
> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
> 
> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than today.
> 
> Richard H.  
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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-09 Thread Myvety2k via CMLHope
Jeanie, as of Jan. 10th I will have been on Gleevec for 15  years. Starting 
to retain fluid around my ankles a little but that could be and  age thing. 
75 years old.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 1/9/2015 7:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:

Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to  be 
informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he  
thinks.
My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to  be 
more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell  personally 
twice; never had that happen before.
He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny  
the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the  
Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5  years.  
Is 
five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this  happen?  Anyone else 
been on Hydrea after tki?
Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let  
everyone know.
The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
Pray for me and everyone in need.
Blessings
Jeanie 
(18) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rbhuffm...@gmail.com writes:

 
WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying  for the group.  I will add my 
problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I  contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds 
water weight in 20 days after  restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he 
was 
out of the country on  vacation with his family.  She checked with the DR. 
covering for him  and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was  
gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the  office on Monday but 
finally had a conference with his Associate and he  agreed with that decision. 
 They both thought that I should be on a  different treatment.  My ONC was 
to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC  (the one controlling my prescriptions) 
about my reaction to Gleevec and  to recommend the treatment he thinks I should 
be on.  So I am  still in a wait and see stage.  My ONC tells me I am too 
informed about  my condition and that challenges most blood cancer 
specialists  that  rarely see CML.  
So let the fun and games continue.  I am still  feeling great, but the 
"Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but  nine days off has 
cleared 
it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is  "normal" for me.


As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be  beautiful and better than today.


Richard H.  



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Re: [CMLHope] My Update anyone had relapse after 5 years on tkis?

2015-01-09 Thread ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope
Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to  be 
informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he  
thinks.
My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to  be 
more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell personally  
twice; never had that happen before.
He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny the 
 same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the  
Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5  years.  
Is 
five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this  happen?  Anyone else 
been on Hydrea after tki?
Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let  
everyone know.
The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
Pray for me and everyone in need.
Blessings
Jeanie 
(18) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rbhuffm...@gmail.com writes:

 
WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying  for the group.  I will add my 
problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I  contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds 
water weight in 20 days after  restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he 
was 
out of the country on  vacation with his family.  She checked with the DR. 
covering for him and  he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was  
gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the  office on Monday but 
finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed  with that decision. 
 They both thought that I should be on a different  treatment.  My ONC was 
to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one  controlling my prescriptions) 
about my reaction to Gleevec and  to recommend the treatment he thinks I should 
be on.  So I am  still in a wait and see stage.  My ONC tells me I am too 
informed about  my condition and that challenges most blood cancer 
specialists  that  rarely see CML.  
So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling  great, but the 
"Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days  off has 
cleared 
it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for  me.


As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be  beautiful and better than today.


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