Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater

[Tom Anderson]

Dennis,
THANK YOU for the link to the Isotemp.  Upon your reccomondation and a review 
in Practical Sailor I plan to but one to replace my Raritan that rusted thru a 
couple of years ago. By the way, right now it is cheaper to buy indirect thru 
Isotemp than Defender - Go figure!  Also, the Isotemp I think will fit more 
easily in the sail locker than any other model.  Still have to do some 
measuring before ordering.

Tom Anderson
C&C 32 Nonpareil
On the hard inMarblehead, MA

3 days to BVI trip
75 days to launch


Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:13:13 -0600
From: Dennis Cheuvront 
To: CnClist 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering
Message-ID:
   
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Guess I can't help but notice the incidence of rusted out water heaters
mentioned here.  Some brands don't use stainless.  Hence the shorter
service lives.

For me, stainless tank.  Period.  The new Isotemp SPA series water heaters
keep the stainless tank but switch to a polypropelene exterior.  $450 for
the 4 gallon model.  Well worth the $200 difference over the Kuuma and
better materials than some well known brands in my opinion.  Every time I
"cheap" it, I end up wishing I hadn't.  It's a lesson we sailors never seem
to learn.

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Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater

[Dave Godwin]

Tom,

I installed (mostly…) an Isotemp Slim 20 water heater in my boat. Very nice 
item and it allowed me to change to location of the water heater. I don’t know 
what the locker space on a 32 is like but I was able to make a mockup of the 
dimensions to check before buying.

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Tom Anderson  wrote:

> Dennis,
> THANK YOU for the link to the Isotemp.  Upon your reccomondation and a review 
> in Practical Sailor I plan to but one to replace my Raritan that rusted thru 
> a couple of years ago. By the way, right now it is cheaper to buy indirect 
> thru Isotemp than Defender - Go figure!  Also, the Isotemp I think will fit 
> more easily in the sail locker than any other model.  Still have to do some 
> measuring before ordering.
> 
> Tom Anderson
> C&C 32 Nonpareil
> On the hard inMarblehead, MA
> 
> 3 days to BVI trip
> 75 days to launch
> 
> 
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:13:13 -0600
> From: Dennis Cheuvront 
> To: CnClist 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Guess I can't help but notice the incidence of rusted out water heaters
> mentioned here.  Some brands don't use stainless.  Hence the shorter
> service lives.
> 
> For me, stainless tank.  Period.  The new Isotemp SPA series water heaters
> keep the stainless tank but switch to a polypropelene exterior.  $450 for
> the 4 gallon model.  Well worth the $200 difference over the Kuuma and
> better materials than some well known brands in my opinion.  Every time I
> "cheap" it, I end up wishing I hadn't.  It's a lesson we sailors never seem
> to learn.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Dave Godwin]

Sooo, there I was, in Facebook, all ready to vote for Joel and then I notice 
that there’s another local C&C in the race. A nice looking 37 no less!

Now I have a voting dilemma. Is this a “vote early, vote often” kinda thing?

Good luck to both of you on a very, very fun race and great destination!

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Steve Sharkey  wrote:

> I’m going to jump on the opportunity to note that I’ll also be racing and am 
> one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!
>  
> Thanks
> Steve
> Impromptu
> 1983 C&C 37
>  
> From: Joel Aronson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>  
> All,
>  
> Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis Bermuda 
> race participants who entered their free sail contest.
>  
> Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon 
> Thursday.  Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:
>  
> https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda
>  
> Please vote early and often!
>  
> -- 
> Joel
> The Office
> 35/3
> Annapolis
> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Joel Aronson]

Let's get a couple more C&C entries and we can have our own trophy!

Joel

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014, Dave Godwin  wrote:

> Sooo, there I was, in Facebook, all ready to vote for Joel and then I
> notice that there's another local C&C in the race. A nice looking 37 no
> less!
>
> Now I have a voting dilemma. Is this a "vote early, vote often" kinda
> thing?
>
> Good luck to both of you on a very, very fun race and great destination!
>
> Best,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin's Overdue Refit 
>
> On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Steve Sharkey 
> >
> wrote:
>
>   I'm going to jump on the opportunity to note that I'll also be racing
> and am one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!
>
> Thanks
> Steve
> Impromptu
> 1983 C&C 37
>
>  *From:* Joel Aronson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
> *To:* 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>
>  All,
>
> Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis Bermuda
> race participants who entered their free sail contest.
>
> Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon
> Thursday.  Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda
>
> Please vote early and often!
>
> --
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> *The Office*
> 35/3
> Annapolis
> 301 541 8551
>
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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Steve Sharkey]

Unfortunately the information that they provided says that there’s only 
one-vote per person.  I would much prefer the vote early and often approach!

Steve

From: Dave Godwin 
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

Sooo, there I was, in Facebook, all ready to vote for Joel and then I notice 
that there’s another local C&C in the race. A nice looking 37 no less! 

Now I have a voting dilemma. Is this a “vote early, vote often” kinda thing?

Good luck to both of you on a very, very fun race and great destination!

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Steve Sharkey  wrote:


  I’m going to jump on the opportunity to note that I’ll also be racing and am 
one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!

  Thanks
  Steve
  Impromptu
  1983 C&C 37

  From: Joel Aronson 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Subject: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

  All, 

  Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis Bermuda 
race participants who entered their free sail contest.

  Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon 
Thursday.  Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:

  https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda

  Please vote early and often!


  -- 
  Joel 
  The Office
  35/3
  Annapolis
  301 541 8551 


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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Stevan Plavsa]

That's the biggest C&C 24 MKiii I've ever seen.



On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Steve Sharkey wrote:

>   Unfortunately the information that they provided says that there's only
> one-vote per person.  I would much prefer the vote early and often approach!
>
> Steve
>
>  *From:* Dave Godwin 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:00 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>
> Sooo, there I was, in Facebook, all ready to vote for Joel and then I
> notice that there's another local C&C in the race. A nice looking 37 no
> less!
>
> Now I have a voting dilemma. Is this a "vote early, vote often" kinda
> thing?
>
> Good luck to both of you on a very, very fun race and great destination!
>
> Best,
>Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin's Overdue Refit 
>
>  On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Steve Sharkey 
> wrote:
>
>   I'm going to jump on the opportunity to note that I'll also be racing
> and am one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!
>
> Thanks
> Steve
> Impromptu
> 1983 C&C 37
>
>  *From:* Joel Aronson 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>
>  All,
>
> Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis Bermuda
> race participants who entered their free sail contest.
>
> Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon
> Thursday.  Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda
>
> Please vote early and often!
>
> --
> Joel
> *The Office*
> 35/3
> Annapolis
> 301 541 8551
>
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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[airdale...@juno.com]

Steve, apparently we are only to vote once, however, where is the list to find 
your name?  Wne to the site and do not see any.

-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Sharkey" 
To: 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500


I’m going to jump on the opportunity to note that I’ll also be 
racing and am one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote! 
ThanksSteveImpromptu1983 C&C 37 From: Joel AronsonSent: Tuesday, February 25, 
2014 3:11 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Stus-List Help me win a free 
sail! All, Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis 
Bermuda race participants who entered their free sail contest. Voting opens 
around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon Thursday.  Voting will 
be on the RC Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda Please 
vote early and often! -- 
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Stus-List a source for Si-tex radar domes?

[Eric Frank]

I have been trying to locate a small radar dome that is compatible with my 
Standard Horizon CP300i chartplotter.  It is a nuisance to run below to look at 
the radar screen, so it would be great to have the display on the chartplotter 
at the helm.  The CP300i is compatible with the Si-tex radars, but Si-Tex has 
stopped making them and the dealers I have contacted have no more in stock.  
Fred Street, of this list-serve, tried hard to locate one for me, but was 
unsuccessful.  Just thought someone else on this list might know where I could 
locate one, even used.  Ebay has them but at double the list price. 2.2 
boat-bucks for a very low-end radar dome seems excessive!

Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C&C 35 Mk II
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Re: Stus-List a source for Si-tex radar domes?

[Dennis Cheuvront]

Eric,

You might try a couple of the search engines that look at local classifieds
and craigslists.  yakaz.com, claz,org, etc.  You might turn up a unit that
way.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Eric Frank  wrote:

> I have been trying to locate a small radar dome that is compatible with my
> Standard Horizon CP300i chartplotter.  It is a nuisance to run below to
> look at the radar screen, so it would be great to have the display on the
> chartplotter at the helm.  The CP300i is compatible with the Si-tex radars,
> but Si-Tex has stopped making them and the dealers I have contacted have no
> more in stock.  Fred Street, of this list-serve, tried hard to locate one
> for me, but was unsuccessful.  Just thought someone else on this list might
> know where I could locate one, even used.  Ebay has them but at double the
> list price. 2.2 boat-bucks for a very low-end radar dome seems excessive!
>
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw
> C&C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA
>
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Re: Stus-List a source for Si-tex radar domes?

[Fair, Mike]

If it is an older unit try Marine Consignment in Warwick RI.

They have a pile of used electronics including radars. 
Thanks,

Mike Fair

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Frank
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:17 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List a source for Si-tex radar domes?

I have been trying to locate a small radar dome that is compatible with my 
Standard Horizon CP300i chartplotter.  It is a nuisance to run below to look at 
the radar screen, so it would be great to have the display on the chartplotter 
at the helm.  The CP300i is compatible with the Si-tex radars, but Si-Tex has 
stopped making them and the dealers I have contacted have no more in stock.  
Fred Street, of this list-serve, tried hard to locate one for me, but was 
unsuccessful.  Just thought someone else on this list might know where I could 
locate one, even used.  Ebay has them but at double the list price. 2.2 
boat-bucks for a very low-end radar dome seems excessive!

Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C&C 35 Mk II
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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Danny Haughey]

I Found Steve's name but not Joel... Hey! another "juno" email address!

-- Original Message --
From: "airdale...@juno.com" 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:34:39 GMT


Steve, apparently we are only to vote once, however, where is the list to find 
your name?  Wne to the site and do not see any.

-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Sharkey" 
To: 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500

I’m going to jump on the opportunity to note that I’ll also be 
racing and am one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote! 
ThanksSteveImpromptu1983 C&C 37 From: Joel AronsonSent: Tuesday, February 25, 
2014 3:11 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Stus-List Help me win a free 
sail! All, Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis 
Bermuda race participants who entered their free sail contest. Voting opens 
around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon Thursday.  Voting will 
be on the RC Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda Please 
vote early and often! -- 
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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Joel Aronson]

Here is the FB link:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=730860123615384&set=a.614489011919163.1073741826.614298161938248&type=1&theater¬if_t=photo_comment
.

(it changed since early this morning!


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Danny Haughey  wrote:

> I Found Steve's name but not Joel...
>
> Hey! another "juno" email address!
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "airdale...@juno.com" 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:34:39 GMT
>
> Steve, apparently we are only to vote once, however, where is the list to
> find your name?  Wne to the site and do not see any.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Steve Sharkey" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500
>
> I'm going to jump on the opportunity to note that I'll also be racing and
> am one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!
>
> Thanks
> Steve
> Impromptu
> 1983 C&C 37
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>
> All,
>
> Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis Bermuda
> race participants who entered their free sail contest.
>
> Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon
> Thursday.  Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda
>
> Please vote early and often!
>
> --
> Joel
> *The Office*
> 35/3
> Annapolis
> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Bow Roller and possibly Windlass for the 1977 29

[dreuge]

Hi,

I have a homemade bow roller on a 29 which has worked out well for the past 6 
years.  I keep a 22lb delta on it.  I can send you more details if you are 
interested, but it is basically an Al plate with some standard rollers bolted 
on.   See  photos of it at:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/dreuge/6857657943/in/set-72157629273706637/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dreuge/6857707249/in/set-72157629273706637/




-
Paul E.
1979 C&C 29-1
1981 C&C 38 Landfall
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

Begin forwarded message:

> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 15:03:13 -0500
> From: Paul Kunicki 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Stus-List Bow Roller and possibly Windlass for the 1977 29
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am presently preparing for a haul-out during which I would like to have an 
> anchor roller installed. I found a photo of a 1977 29 MKI named Anonymous 
> here: 
> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/bowroller/bowroller.htm
> 
> Unfortunately, the link no longer works.
> 
> Form the photo, it appears that there is both a danforth and plow style 
> anchors hanging from the bow and it is not obvious whether or not a Windlass 
> is installed? I? would love to know if this was a custom built or if it was a 
> product available off the shelf. 
> 
> Any info on what roller/bracket and mounting method is best for hanging a 
> 22lb delta or similar plow type anchor on a smaller C&C like this would be 
> very helpful.
> 
> Thanks for your time and patience,
> 
> Paul Kunicki
> Systems Manager
> Owner 1977 C&C 29 MKI
> Boca Raton, FL  
> 

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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Stevan Plavsa]

I assume that to vote we just "like" you?
done.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Joel Aronson wrote:

> Here is the FB link:
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=730860123615384&set=a.614489011919163.1073741826.614298161938248&type=1&theater¬if_t=photo_comment
> .
>
> (it changed since early this morning!
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Danny Haughey wrote:
>
>> I Found Steve's name but not Joel...
>>
>> Hey! another "juno" email address!
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "airdale...@juno.com" 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:34:39 GMT
>>
>> Steve, apparently we are only to vote once, however, where is the list to
>> find your name?  Wne to the site and do not see any.
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Steve Sharkey" 
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500
>>
>> I'm going to jump on the opportunity to note that I'll also be racing and
>> am one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Steve
>> Impromptu
>> 1983 C&C 37
>>
>> *From:* Joel Aronson 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis Bermuda
>> race participants who entered their free sail contest.
>>
>> Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon
>> Thursday.  Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda
>>
>> Please vote early and often!
>>
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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Joel Aronson]

Correct!


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:

> I assume that to vote we just "like" you?
> done.
>
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Joel Aronson wrote:
>
>> Here is the FB link:
>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=730860123615384&set=a.614489011919163.1073741826.614298161938248&type=1&theater¬if_t=photo_comment
>> .
>>
>> (it changed since early this morning!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Danny Haughey wrote:
>>
>>> I Found Steve's name but not Joel...
>>>
>>> Hey! another "juno" email address!
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "airdale...@juno.com" 
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>>> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:34:39 GMT
>>>
>>> Steve, apparently we are only to vote once, however, where is the list
>>> to find your name?  Wne to the site and do not see any.
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Steve Sharkey" 
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>>> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500
>>>
>>> I'm going to jump on the opportunity to note that I'll also be racing
>>> and am one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Steve
>>> Impromptu
>>> 1983 C&C 37
>>>
>>> *From:* Joel Aronson 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Subject:* Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis
>>> Bermuda race participants who entered their free sail contest.
>>>
>>> Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon
>>> Thursday.  Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda
>>>
>>> Please vote early and often!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joel
>>> *The Office*
>>> 35/3
>>> Annapolis
>>> 301 541 8551
>>> --
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>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater - refit resource!

[Lee Youngblood]

Thanks Dave,

I bookmarked your refit site!  What a great inspiring resource!

Thanks, Lee

PS Are you Wally's little brother?



I installed (mostlyŠ) 
an Isotemp Slim 20 water heater in my boat. Very 
nice item and it allowed me to change to 
location of the water heater. I don't know what 
the locker space on a 32 is like but I was able 
to make a mockup of the dimensions to check 
before buying.


Best,

Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin's Overdue Refit



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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Della Barba, Joe]

It seems like you need to be a Facebook user to vote :(

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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Steve Sharkey]

If you scroll down I am entry number 4.  It's not the easiest site to
navigate!  I think that you just "like" my entry


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:34 AM, airdale...@juno.com wrote:

> Steve, apparently we are only to vote once, however, where is the list to
> find your name?  Wne to the site and do not see any.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Steve Sharkey" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500
>
> I'm going to jump on the opportunity to note that I'll also be racing and
> am one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!
>
> Thanks
> Steve
> Impromptu
> 1983 C&C 37
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>
> All,
>
> Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis Bermuda
> race participants who entered their free sail contest.
>
> Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon
> Thursday.  Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda
>
> Please vote early and often!
>
> --
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> 35/3
> Annapolis
> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Steve Sharkey]

Yes, exactly right.  Thanks!


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:

> I assume that to vote we just "like" you?
> done.
>
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Joel Aronson wrote:
>
>> Here is the FB link:
>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=730860123615384&set=a.614489011919163.1073741826.614298161938248&type=1&theater¬if_t=photo_comment
>> .
>>
>> (it changed since early this morning!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Danny Haughey wrote:
>>
>>> I Found Steve's name but not Joel...
>>>
>>> Hey! another "juno" email address!
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "airdale...@juno.com" 
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>>> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:34:39 GMT
>>>
>>> Steve, apparently we are only to vote once, however, where is the list
>>> to find your name?  Wne to the site and do not see any.
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Steve Sharkey" 
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>>> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500
>>>
>>> I'm going to jump on the opportunity to note that I'll also be racing
>>> and am one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Steve
>>> Impromptu
>>> 1983 C&C 37
>>>
>>> *From:* Joel Aronson 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Subject:* Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis
>>> Bermuda race participants who entered their free sail contest.
>>>
>>> Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon
>>> Thursday.  Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda
>>>
>>> Please vote early and often!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joel
>>> *The Office*
>>> 35/3
>>> Annapolis
>>> 301 541 8551
>>> --
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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Steve Sharkey]

Yes, that's correct since it makes you log in to "like" somebody.


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Della Barba, Joe
wrote:

> It seems like you need to be a Facebook user to vote L
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
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Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater (35-1 install)

[Dennis Cheuvront]

That's what I like about the Isotemps.  The flexible mounting options.

For Touche', a 35-1, I'm thinking about installing a 4 gal SPA model in the
starboard cockpit locker under the shelf.  That's a space that's
underutilized now.

It should be an easy install.  Just bolt the bracket under the shelf and
hook it up.  Hose runs will be short.

Be interested in what other 35-1 owners think.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Lee Youngblood <
leeyoungbl...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Thanks Dave,
>
> I bookmarked your refit site!  What a great inspiring resource!
>
> Thanks, Lee
>
> PS Are you Wally's little brother?
>
>
>
>  I 
> installed
>> (mostlyŠ) an Isotemp Slim 20 water heater in my boat. Very nice item and it
>> allowed me to change to location of the water heater. I don't know what the
>> locker space on a 32 is like but I was able to make a mockup of the
>> dimensions to check before buying.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Dave Godwin
>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
>> Ronin's Overdue Refit
>>
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Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater (35-1 install)

[dwight]

Dennis

 

I had difficulty getting the coolant to flow uphill from the engine when my
tank was mounted high just suspended from the bottom of the shelf in the
cockpit locker (port side on the MKII) I think because of airlocks.  I
changed the location of the tank to lower down in engine space and towards
center line where the inlet and outlet on the tank for the engine coolant
was more or less in the same plane that those lines exited the engine.
Seems to work better now and the tank is not too much in the way of getting
down into that space and the 10 gal of water is low and closer to center
line.  It is mounted on yolks that I fashioned from treated lumber and
attached to the surrounding structure with stainless wood screws. 

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Cheuvront
Sent: February 26, 2014 1:54 PM
To: CnClist
Subject: Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater (35-1 install)

 

That's what I like about the Isotemps.  The flexible mounting options.

For Touche', a 35-1, I'm thinking about installing a 4 gal SPA model in the
starboard cockpit locker under the shelf.  That's a space that's
underutilized now.

It should be an easy install.  Just bolt the bracket under the shelf and
hook it up.  Hose runs will be short.

Be interested in what other 35-1 owners think.  

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Lee Youngblood
 wrote:

Thanks Dave,

I bookmarked your refit site!  What a great inspiring resource!

Thanks, Lee

PS Are you Wally's little brother?




I
installe
d (mostlyŠ) an Isotemp Slim 20 water heater in my boat. Very nice item and
it allowed me to change to location of the water heater. I don't know what
the locker space on a 32 is like but I was able to make a mockup of the
dimensions to check before buying.

Best,

Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin's Overdue Refit



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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Marek Dziedzic]

I hate to say this, but you need much more support than what you’ve got so far. 
The top guy has more votes that the two of you combined. You need more FB 
friends (;-)

Marek
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500
From: "Steve Sharkey" 
To: 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
Message-ID: <033DFF523901407FB6CB74B078A98DE1@Familykitchen>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I?m going to jump on the opportunity to note that I?ll also be racing and am 
one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!

Thanks
Steve
Impromptu
1983 C&C 37

From: Joel Aronson 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

All, 

Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis Bermuda race 
participants who entered their free sail contest.

Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon Thursday.  
Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda

Please vote early and often!


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Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

[Joel Aronson]

Working on it.  BTW, that's our own Joe Della Barba on the bow of my boat!

Joel


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Marek Dziedzic wrote:

>   I hate to say this, but you need much more support than what you've got
> so far. The top guy has more votes that the two of you combined. You need
> more FB friends (;-)
>
> Marek
> --
>
> Message: 7
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500
> From: "Steve Sharkey" <
> stevebshar...@gmail.com>
> To: 
>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
> Message-ID: <033DFF523901407FB6CB74B078A98DE1@Familykitchen>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I?m going to jump on the opportunity to note that I?ll also be racing and
> am one of the 13 entered.  I would love to also get your vote!
>
>
> Thanks
> Steve
> Impromptu
> 1983 C&C 37
>
> From: Joel Aronson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:11 PM
> To:
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!
>
> All,
>
> Bacon Sails is giving away a free sail to one 13 of the Annapolis Bermuda
> race participants who entered their free sail contest.
>
> Voting opens around 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow and only runs through noon
> Thursday.  Voting will be on the RC Facebook page:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/annapolis2bermuda
>
> Please vote early and often!
>
>
> --
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> 35/3
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> 301 541 8551
>
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Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement

[Gary Nylander]

My boat came with a riser made of non-galvanized pipe, it lasted about 18 years 
with me and I don't know how many more with the PO's. I replaced it with 
another. 

Gary 
30-1
- Original Message - 
  From: bobmor99 . 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:30 PM
  Subject: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement


  ~5 years ago Ox's ol' Onan waterlift muffler rusted out.  I replaced it with 
a (Vetus?) fiberglass unit and had to replace the exhaust riser in the process. 
Being thrifty, I went with Home Depot 1.25" galvanized pipe and a wrap of 
asbestos tape.


  Well, five years later (last week), Ox's exhaust riser collapsed. FWIW, most 
of the disintegration was toward the exhaust manifold. I'm thinking of staying 
with cheap galvanized pipe but this time painting it with a high-temperature 
paint inside and out. Opinions or predictions?


  Bob M
  Ox 33-1
  Jax, FL


  P.S. The waterlift muffler is fine. 


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Re: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software

[Blair]

I have a hand held garmin 78 sc or 78 s I think it is called.

 

Could I use this as my GPS receiver in conjunction with a Samsung Galaxy and 
navionics rather than a Garmin Glo or Bad Elf


Blair Clark 902-423-4651 
 



From: r...@sailpower.ca
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:06:00 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software


For anyone with an Apple tablet but no GPS, take a look at bad-elf.com. A 
reasonable solution. 

Rich

On Feb 19, 2014, at 20:57, "Rick Brass"  wrote:









I thought the list established a while ago that Apple didn’t sell versions of 
the iPad that were not cellular ready, and thus they had a GPS?
 
And after working off and on for a couple of weeks to set up and learn the 
iPad, I’m not a great fan either. I’ve been a windows person since version 3, 
and am pretty comfortable navigating it. My Sony Android tablet is a lot easier 
to deal with than my iPad – probably because I’m learning a new set of menus 
and so on for the iPad from scratch. That’s why I would have gotten a 
waterproof Samsung Galaxy had I not been given the iPad.
 
But the comment I actually wanted to make, Mike, is that the folks who run 
Active Captain indicate the second highest number of users in the world log in 
from Canada (they track the locations of folks who log in). The third highest 
number are from France, and they indicate they have really complete information 
on the French canal system. A recent entry mentioned the Active Captain data is 
in the process of being incorporated into the software from 3 European 
companies.
 
Log into Active Captain on your PC and take a look at the data available for 
your home waters. That might tell you how valuable the information might be. 
Then again, it is free, so the cost is right if you chose not to put it on the 
tablet.
 
Rick
 


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:21 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software
 



I am not an Apple fan although the Admiral has 2. An Ipad original and a new 
Mini.  Wifi only so no GPS.

 

For myself I bought a Sony Xperia tablet because it is waterproof to about 10’. 
 Really only needs to be splash proof.  I bought Navionics HD and so far I am 
pleased but it has all been armchair sailing.  Eventually I’ll load Active 
Captain but I’m not sure how useful it will be in Canada

 

Mike
S/V Persuasion
C&C 37 Keel/CB
Long Sault



 


From: Fair, Mike 

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:05 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software

 

Any recommendations for us Android tablet users?
 
Thanks,
 
Mike Fair
Finnyacht 351
 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:54 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software
 

The problem with an expensive helm mounted chart plotter is that it'll be old 
news in a few years. I'm not keen on spending ~$1500 or more on a chart plotter 
that will be "old tech" a few years from now. The iPad does so much more than 
navigation and is half the price. Sure, you can't read it easily in sunlight 
and it's not waterproof .. I can buy two iPads for the price of a raymarine 
plotter though. And I can take the iPad home and do all sorts of other things 
with it (primarily reading sailing magazines with Zinio) but I digress...

 

I'de like to have a plotter, or some kind of multi-display unit at the helm but 
the prices on them aren't justified in my opinion. I am making the same thing 
using OpenCPN, a laptop and likely the Standard Horizon GX2200 for GPS and AIS 
info for the laptop. I already have the laptop, OpenCPN is free (and good!) so 
I'll only be spending the $350 on the AIS/GPS capable VHF radio vs $1500 
for the same functionality at the helm? I can't justify that.

 

If the technology was more modular, ie; the multidisplay had proper buttons and 
was really *JUST* a display and interface I'de be more interested. $1500 is a 
lot to spend on what is essentially a touch screen monitor .. except it's not 
is it? It's a raymarine/garmin/sh whizbang that isn't upgradable and will 
essentially suck compared to the new stuff in 5 years. Oh yeah,and charts are 
really expensive too. I happily paid $50 for navionics with charts for all of 
North America!!! Charts that get updated! Give me a waterproof, sun viewable 
iPad type device that uses open protocols that i can mount at the helm and I'de 
gladly spend $1500 on it. All I need is a display and an interface (buttons and 
touch, but don't take my buttons away). A computer is a computer is a 
computer

 

There are nice plotters that I would like to have, it's just a question of 
value for the money. My boat bucks are needed elsewhere.

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Roger Ware  wrote:


I have an iPad with Navionics 

Re: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software

[Rich Knowles]

AFAIK Only if your Garmin unit has Bluetooth connectability or you can get a 
USB connection unto your tablet. 

Rich

> On Feb 26, 2014, at 16:03, Blair  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a hand held garmin 78 sc or 78 s I think it is called.
>  
> Could I use this as my GPS receiver in conjunction with a Samsung Galaxy and 
> navionics rather than a Garmin Glo or Bad Elf
> 
> Blair Clark 902-423-4651 
>  
> From: r...@sailpower.ca
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:06:00 -0400
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software
> 
> For anyone with an Apple tablet but no GPS, take a look at bad-elf.com. A 
> reasonable solution. 
> 
> Rich
> 
> On Feb 19, 2014, at 20:57, "Rick Brass"  wrote:
> 
> I thought the list established a while ago that Apple didn’t sell versions of 
> the iPad that were not cellular ready, and thus they had a GPS?
> 
>  
> 
> And after working off and on for a couple of weeks to set up and learn the 
> iPad, I’m not a great fan either. I’ve been a windows person since version 3, 
> and am pretty comfortable navigating it. My Sony Android tablet is a lot 
> easier to deal with than my iPad – probably because I’m learning a new set of 
> menus and so on for the iPad from scratch. That’s why I would have gotten a 
> waterproof Samsung Galaxy had I not been given the iPad.
> 
>  
> 
> But the comment I actually wanted to make, Mike, is that the folks who run 
> Active Captain indicate the second highest number of users in the world log 
> in from Canada (they track the locations of folks who log in). The third 
> highest number are from France, and they indicate they have really complete 
> information on the French canal system. A recent entry mentioned the Active 
> Captain data is in the process of being incorporated into the software from 3 
> European companies.
> 
>  
> 
> Log into Active Captain on your PC and take a look at the data available for 
> your home waters. That might tell you how valuable the information might be. 
> Then again, it is free, so the cost is right if you chose not to put it on 
> the tablet.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick
> 
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:21 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software
> 
>  
> 
> I am not an Apple fan although the Admiral has 2. An Ipad original and a new 
> Mini.  Wifi only so no GPS.
> 
>  
> 
> For myself I bought a Sony Xperia tablet because it is waterproof to about 
> 10’.  Really only needs to be splash proof.  I bought Navionics HD and so far 
> I am pleased but it has all been armchair sailing.  Eventually I’ll load 
> Active Captain but I’m not sure how useful it will be in Canada
> 
>  
> 
> Mike
> S/V Persuasion
> C&C 37 Keel/CB
> Long Sault
> 
>  
> 
> From: Fair, Mike
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:05 PM
> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software
> 
>  
> 
> Any recommendations for us Android tablet users?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Mike Fair
> 
> Finnyacht 351
> 
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
> Plavsa
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:54 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software
> 
>  
> 
> The problem with an expensive helm mounted chart plotter is that it'll be old 
> news in a few years. I'm not keen on spending ~$1500 or more on a chart 
> plotter that will be "old tech" a few years from now. The iPad does so much 
> more than navigation and is half the price. Sure, you can't read it easily in 
> sunlight and it's not waterproof .. I can buy two iPads for the price of a 
> raymarine plotter though. And I can take the iPad home and do all sorts of 
> other things with it (primarily reading sailing magazines with Zinio) but I 
> digress...
> 
>  
> 
> I'de like to have a plotter, or some kind of multi-display unit at the helm 
> but the prices on them aren't justified in my opinion. I am making the same 
> thing using OpenCPN, a laptop and likely the Standard Horizon GX2200 for GPS 
> and AIS info for the laptop. I already have the laptop, OpenCPN is free (and 
> good!) so I'll only be spending the $350 on the AIS/GPS capable VHF radio 
> vs $1500 for the same functionality at the helm? I can't justify that.
> 
>  
> 
> If the technology was more modular, ie; the multidisplay had proper buttons 
> and was really *JUST* a display and interface I'de be more interested. $1500 
> is a lot to spend on what is essentially a touch screen monitor .. except 
> it's not is it? It's a raymarine/garmin/sh whizbang that isn't upgradable and 
> will essentially suck compared to the new stuff in 5 years. Oh yeah,and 
> charts are really expensive too. I happily paid $50 for navionics with charts 
> for all of North America!!! Charts that get updated! Give me a waterproof, 
> sun viewable iPad type device that uses open protocols that i can mount at 
>

Stus-List Fw: LF38 Propane locker and stern ladder measurements

[Daniel Sheer]

On Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:36 PM, Daniel Sheer  wrote:
 
For those who asked.

Stern ladder
1" ss tube
14" wide
43" long
Rung spacing 14" - lowest rung and sides one piece. Top and middle rung welded 
in perpendicular

1st rung standoff  7.25 to inside of tube. One piece bent tube standoff

Top standoff 4" + .5" pad to inside of tube. 2 pieces. Top rung of ladder 
passes through close fitting tube for hinge.

 
Tank locker note, locker is a slightly curved along the width, curves are 
parallel front and back

width  24.5" overall,  22" interior
length 13" overall, 10.875 interior
depth 12" interior + 3" up in cover

Pictures are not attached - too big. Send a private message if you want 'em.


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Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Stevan Plavsa]

Hi All,

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-2GM-Yanmar-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ569939186

i've got an A4. This is tempting.
But I don't know anything about diesels and it's a little dubious. how does
one go about assessing the condition of a motor without a transmission,
outside of the boat?

400 hours? Unlikely for a 30 year old motor.

I'm probably asking for too much.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement

[Della Barba, Joe]

Use black iron pipe. Zinc gives off nasty fumes the first few hours that are 
poisonous. There is actually something like "welder's flue" you get from 
breathing it. I usually plan on getting 4 years or so out of the pipe before I 
take it off and check it.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:02 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement

My boat came with a riser made of non-galvanized pipe, it lasted about 18 years 
with me and I don't know how many more with the PO's. I replaced it with 
another.

Gary
30-1
- Original Message -
From: bobmor99 .
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:30 PM
Subject: Stus-List Exhaust Riser Replacement

~5 years ago Ox's ol' Onan waterlift muffler rusted out.  I replaced it with a 
(Vetus?) fiberglass unit and had to replace the exhaust riser in the process. 
Being thrifty, I went with Home Depot 1.25" galvanized pipe and a wrap of 
asbestos tape.

Well, five years later (last week), Ox's exhaust riser collapsed. FWIW, most of 
the disintegration was toward the exhaust manifold. I'm thinking of staying 
with cheap galvanized pipe but this time painting it with a high-temperature 
paint inside and out. Opinions or predictions?

Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL

P.S. The waterlift muffler is fine.

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Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

[Gary Nylander]

I generally am not out that long, but my buddy with a 36 foot motorsailer has 
this routine: he uses Joy detergent and has a salt water pump (inside and out, 
depending on weather and location) and wets down, lathers up, rinses with salt 
and follows with a fresh water rinse. He has cruised for many years and spent a 
year aboard a while back. 

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: dwight 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 3:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering


  On my 35 MKII 2 of us shower every day for 5 days and then we need to get 
more water.  I have not fitted any extra water tanks.

   


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  Sent: February 24, 2014 1:51 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

   

  Hi All,

   

  I only just realized that there was a layout available for the Landfall 38 
that had a U-shaped galley, more interior woodwork and most impressively, a 
separate shower. I've been discussing our needs with the admiral and we're in 
agreement on the requirement for a separate shower so the Landfall has now 
captured our attention. Looking at boats on yachtworld it appears that only LFs 
made after 82 had the separate shower, is that true or was it a layout that was 
always available?

   

  Our 32 doesn't have a shower and the head is tiny. I couldn't really imagine 
taking a shower in there at all. Showers are probably a point of interest when 
you're swimming in salt water every day??? Seems that the LF also carries over 
100 gallons of fresh water .. having never showered on a boat I don't know if 
this is enough for a rinse off every day? How often are people showering with 
fresh water when away in remote anchorages in the Caribbean? Or other warm 
climates? I have no experience here.

   

  I also wanted to ask the owners of the LF 38s which layout you have and what 
you like about it, and what you don't like about it? Have you done much long 
term cruising or living aboard? Wally, I've read most of your articles and I 
know you installed the U-shaped galley, I guess I assumed all Landfalls were 
that way. 

   

  The landfalls are a good value. I laid out a bunch of options in the "when to 
go cruising" thread and one of them is certainly taking our boat up to Georgian 
Bay and keeping it there. A Landfall would serve well on Georgian Bay as well 
as being enough boat to do some long term cruising on. We haven't yet figured 
out how we're going to take off forever so it looks like that plan will have to 
wait a while. In the short term however, moving our boat to Georgian Bay is 
looking like a win/win in the short term.

   

  Steve

  Suhana, C&C 32

  Toronto



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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Della Barba, Joe]

IMHO you will have a lot more than $2K in that project before it is done AND 
you will find going from 4 to 2 cylinders means ViBrAtIoN.
One of my "rules of old and surplus stuff" is don't do it for things that need 
a lot of work to be installed.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

Hi All,

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-2GM-Yanmar-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ569939186

i've got an A4. This is tempting.
But I don't know anything about diesels and it's a little dubious. how does one 
go about assessing the condition of a motor without a transmission, outside of 
the boat?

400 hours? Unlikely for a 30 year old motor.

I'm probably asking for too much.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Joel Aronson]

Steve,

You'd need a tranny, new fuel tank, lines and filter, new prop, exhaust,
possibly a new shaft ...  It would probably fit, but a 2GM is not
overpowering for a 32.  It also probably came out of a boat with no hour
meter, but even 4,000 is OK if it were maintained.  I'd take that 6-10 k
and put it towards the Landfall, but that's just my opinion.

Joel


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
> http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-2GM-Yanmar-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ569939186
>
> i've got an A4. This is tempting.
> But I don't know anything about diesels and it's a little dubious. how
> does one go about assessing the condition of a motor without a
> transmission, outside of the boat?
>
> 400 hours? Unlikely for a 30 year old motor.
>
> I'm probably asking for too much.
>
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Fw: LF38 Propane locker and stern ladder measurements

[Frederick G Street]

Dan — thanks for the measurements; please forward propane locker pix to me 
off-list.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Daniel Sheer  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:36 PM, Daniel Sheer  wrote:
> For those who asked.
> 
> Stern ladder
> 1" ss tube
> 14" wide
> 43" long
> Rung spacing 14" - lowest rung and sides one piece. Top and middle rung 
> welded in perpendicular
> 1st rung standoff  7.25 to inside of tube. One piece bent tube standoff
> Top standoff 4" + .5" pad to inside of tube. 2 pieces. Top rung of ladder 
> passes through close fitting tube for hinge.
>  
> Tank locker note, locker is a slightly curved along the width, curves are 
> parallel front and back
> width  24.5" overall,  22" interior
> length 13" overall, 10.875 interior
> depth 12" interior + 3" up in cover
> 
> Pictures are not attached - too big. Send a private message if you want 'em.
> 
> Dan
> Pegathy LF38
> Rock Creek off the Patapsco
> 
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Petar Horvatic]

I have a small hurth tranny you can put on there.  

That engine looks very clean.Perhaps ask for receipts in terms of what
they did.   They would have taken a significant part of the engine apart in
order to do what they said they did. 

Considering you get a spare alternator, I would call it a good deal.  Don't
forget that panel will run you few hundred as well.

 

 

Petar Horvatic

Sundowner

76 C&C 38MkII

Newport, RI

 

  

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan
Plavsa
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

 

Hi All,

 

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-2GM-Yanm
ar-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ569939186

 

i've got an A4. This is tempting. 

But I don't know anything about diesels and it's a little dubious. how does
one go about assessing the condition of a motor without a transmission,
outside of the boat? 

 

400 hours? Unlikely for a 30 year old motor.

 

I'm probably asking for too much.

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

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Re: Stus-List Fw: LF38 Propane locker and stern ladder

[dreuge]

Thanks Dan!



-
Paul E.
1979 C&C 29-1
1981 C&C 38 Landfall
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

On Feb 26, 2014, at 3:37 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:

> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:36:35 -0800 (PST)
> From: Daniel Sheer 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Stus-List Fw: LF38 Propane locker and stern ladder
>   measurements
> Message-ID:
>   <1393446995.26315.yahoomail...@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:36 PM, Daniel Sheer  wrote:
> 
> For those who asked.
> 
> Stern ladder
> 1" ss tube
> 14" wide
> 43" long
> Rung spacing 14" - lowest rung and sides one piece. Top and middle rung 
> welded in perpendicular
> 
> 1st rung standoff? 7.25 to inside of tube. One piece bent tube standoff
> 
> Top standoff 4" + .5" pad to inside of tube. 2 pieces. Top rung of ladder 
> passes through close fitting tube for hinge.
> 
> ?
> Tank locker note, locker is a slightly curved along the width, curves are 
> parallel front and back
> 
> width? 24.5" overall,? 22" interior
> length 13" overall, 10.875 interior
> depth 12" interior + 3" up in cover
> 
> Pictures are not attached - too big. Send a private message if you want 'em.
> 
> 
> Dan
> Pegathy LF38
> Rock Creek off the Patapsco

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Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering

[Gary Nylander]

Sounds just like a 30-1, except we have a pan under a grate and a pump 
overboard. And covers for things that need to be dry. 

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Muckley 
  To: C&C List 
  Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - cruising & showering


  Steve,

  I'm not sure about the layout of a C&C 32 but the Pearson 32 has an easy 
shower layout such that the entire head spans the beam of the boat just forward 
of the mast.  This provides sufficient room to move.  It even has a track for a 
curtain attached to the ceiling.  With a curtain you prevent wetting down the 
toilet and toilet paper.  The floor pan drains to the bildge.

  Josh Muckley

  On Feb 24, 2014 12:51 PM, "Stevan Plavsa"  wrote:

Hi All,


I only just realized that there was a layout available for the Landfall 38 
that had a U-shaped galley, more interior woodwork and most impressively, a 
separate shower. I've been discussing our needs with the admiral and we're in 
agreement on the requirement for a separate shower so the Landfall has now 
captured our attention. Looking at boats on yachtworld it appears that only LFs 
made after 82 had the separate shower, is that true or was it a layout that was 
always available?


Our 32 doesn't have a shower and the head is tiny. I couldn't really 
imagine taking a shower in there at all. Showers are probably a point of 
interest when you're swimming in salt water every day??? Seems that the LF also 
carries over 100 gallons of fresh water .. having never showered on a boat I 
don't know if this is enough for a rinse off every day? How often are people 
showering with fresh water when away in remote anchorages in the Caribbean? Or 
other warm climates? I have no experience here.


I also wanted to ask the owners of the LF 38s which layout you have and 
what you like about it, and what you don't like about it? Have you done much 
long term cruising or living aboard? Wally, I've read most of your articles and 
I know you installed the U-shaped galley, I guess I assumed all Landfalls were 
that way. 


The landfalls are a good value. I laid out a bunch of options in the "when 
to go cruising" thread and one of them is certainly taking our boat up to 
Georgian Bay and keeping it there. A Landfall would serve well on Georgian Bay 
as well as being enough boat to do some long term cruising on. We haven't yet 
figured out how we're going to take off forever so it looks like that plan will 
have to wait a while. In the short term however, moving our boat to Georgian 
Bay is looking like a win/win in the short term.


Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Petar Horvatic]

2 years ago I converted from A4 to Westerbeke 40 and kept the tank and
shaft.   I even kept the engine panel.

I went from 1.5" to 2" exhaust dues to increase in HP.  But going down in HP
you can keep the exhaust.  

Slightly oversized engine mounts will take care of vibrations.  Basically
like the ones you already have for A4(if you have them).  Shaft coupling can
be had with vibration dampening.  Engine will vibrate, especially at low
RPMs, but not the hull.

 

Petar Horvatic

Sundowner

76 C&C 38MkII

Newport, RI

 

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

 

Steve,

 

You'd need a tranny, new fuel tank, lines and filter, new prop, exhaust,
possibly a new shaft ...  It would probably fit, but a 2GM is not
overpowering for a 32.  It also probably came out of a boat with no hour
meter, but even 4,000 is OK if it were maintained.  I'd take that 6-10 k and
put it towards the Landfall, but that's just my opinion.

 

Joel

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Stevan Plavsa 
wrote:

Hi All,

 

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-2GM-Yanm
ar-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ569939186

 

i've got an A4. This is tempting. 

But I don't know anything about diesels and it's a little dubious. how does
one go about assessing the condition of a motor without a transmission,
outside of the boat? 

 

400 hours? Unlikely for a 30 year old motor.

 

I'm probably asking for too much.

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto


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Stus-List Fwd:

[Lee]

Hello, http://technocode.nichost.ru/_redirect?smude



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Re: Stus-List Fwd:

[Della Barba, Joe]

Someone got hacked :(
No one click that link!

Joe Della Barba

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:54 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Hello, http://technocode.nichost.ru/_redirect?smude



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Re: Stus-List Fwd:

[Frederick G Street]

What?!  Don’t click on a link from the .ru domain?!   :^)

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Feb 26, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Della Barba, Joe  wrote:

> Someone got hacked :(
> No one click that link!
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:54 PM
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> Subject: Stus-List Fwd:
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Re: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software

[Marek Dziedzic]

Blair,

most likely, no. You can use the 78s and other similar (e.g. Etrex Legend) as a 
GPS sensor, but only (usually) with Garmin s/w and only if you can connect it 
with via USB (with appropriate drivers present). 

You might be able to connect the 78s to the Galaxy (using USB2Go cable), but I 
suspect that the drivers won’t be there.

You probably want to have a GPS sensor that you can connect via Bluetooth.

Marek


Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:03:14 -0400
From: Blair 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw:  Navigation Software
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"


I have a hand held garmin 78 sc or 78 s I think it is called.

 

Could I use this as my GPS receiver in conjunction with a Samsung Galaxy and 
navionics rather than a Garmin Glo or Bad Elf


Blair Clark 902-423-4651 
 

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Jim Watts]

Frank on Felicity changed out his 2GM for a 3GM because he felt it was
underpowered.

For the amount of work involved, I wouldn't bother changing out an A4 for a
2GM missing various bits.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 26 February 2014 13:08, Petar Horvatic  wrote:

> 2 years ago I converted from A4 to Westerbeke 40 and kept the tank and
> shaft.   I even kept the engine panel.
>
> I went from 1.5" to 2" exhaust dues to increase in HP.  But going down in
> HP you can keep the exhaust.
>
> Slightly oversized engine mounts will take care of vibrations.  Basically
> like the ones you already have for A4(if you have them).  Shaft coupling
> can be had with vibration dampening.  Engine will vibrate, especially at
> low RPMs, but not the hull.
>
>
>
> Petar Horvatic
>
> Sundowner
>
> 76 C&C 38MkII
>
> Newport, RI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Aronson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:48 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
>
>
> You'd need a tranny, new fuel tank, lines and filter, new prop, exhaust,
> possibly a new shaft ...  It would probably fit, but a 2GM is not
> overpowering for a 32.  It also probably came out of a boat with no hour
> meter, but even 4,000 is OK if it were maintained.  I'd take that 6-10 k
> and put it towards the Landfall, but that's just my opinion.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Stevan Plavsa 
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
>
> http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-2GM-Yanmar-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ569939186
>
>
>
> i've got an A4. This is tempting.
>
> But I don't know anything about diesels and it's a little dubious. how
> does one go about assessing the condition of a motor without a
> transmission, outside of the boat?
>
>
>
> 400 hours? Unlikely for a 30 year old motor.
>
>
>
> I'm probably asking for too much.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Toronto
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater (35-1 install)

[Wally Bryant]

FWIW I learned a couple of things when installing my new hot water heater.

The most important was the hose size.  I originally thought that I 
should use a nice big hose to avoid creating a pressure problem. I was 
thinking that a big hose would have less resistance and would allow 
maximum coolant flow.  So I ran 3/4" hose.  I thought I was being smart, 
because after moving the water heater amidships it was a long hose run 
that went under the cabin sole.  Well, the engine overheated every time 
I tested it.  So I talked with a trusted mechanic who said "Didn't I 
tell you to use 3/8" hose when we talked about this last year?  I even 
told you where to get it locally!  The water (coolant) pump doesn't 
generate a lot of pressure."


Apparently the way my engine is designed, the water heater ports are set 
up so that coolant can flow through the engine first, and if there's any 
extra pressure it'll work its way to the water heater and back.  Looking 
at the service manual and exploded parts diagrams, it's true.  I'd 
actually looked really good at it before hooking things up, and it 
didn't make a lot of sense to me at the time because it was clear that 
there was a straight path through the engine and I couldn't see how 
coolant would also get to the water heater if there was an easier path 
back to the engine block.


Anyway, I ran 3/8" hose to the water heater.  The cool thing is that my 
dumb mistake worked out to the boat's benefit, because the OD of the 
3/8" hose was less than 3/4" and I was able to work the smaller hose 
inside the bigger hose, using the existing hose run that I'd already 
drilled holes for and pulled.  The big hose was wire reinforced Trident 
exhaust hose, and I probably have the ultimate chafe protection on the 
coolant hose to the water heater.  That's fine, since it runs under the 
cabin sole and through a few fiberglass elements.


Bottom line is that the mechanic was right.  The top priority is to keep 
the engine cool (duh) and enough coolant works through the little hose 
to the water heater.  For me it takes less than 1/2 hour to get it to 
engine temps.




Regarding air locks, I have pushed the edge on that.  I bought an 
'auxiliary coolant tank', that can be mounted high, when doing this 
project, just in case I needed it, but I didn't because through a divine 
miracle the water tank ended up being about two inches below the top of 
the coolant cap on the engine.  (Of course that depends upon who's 
sitting where, and if all the crud on the boat is managed to keep the 
boat on her lines.)  Nonetheless, I've had a few air locks, too, and 
they will cause overheating.  When installing the water tank, I made a 
ball valve assembly near the engine that lets me turn off coolant to the 
water heater and send it right back to the engine.   I think I built 
that when I was trying to figure out why the 3/4" hose wasn't working, 
but really don't remember.  Early Alzheimers.   I have used the valve 
assembly to troubleshoot overheating questions since then.It's nice 
to be able to take the water heater out of the problem.  To date, 
overheating has been 1) broken belt (That's what I get for replacing a 
perfectly fine belt)  2) fish sucked up into the water intake hose  3)  
stupid mistake  4) stupid mistake  5) I don't remember, but it was 
probably a stupid mistake.


Wal

dwight wrote:

I had difficulty getting the coolant to flow uphill from the engine when my"
tank was mounted high just suspended from the bottom of the shelf in the
cockpit locker (port side on the MKII) I think because of airlocks.



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Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater (35-1 install)

[Wally Bryant]

Thanks Joe.   That's actually the point I meant to make, but I got lost 
in my own trip.  Every engine is different.  I think my point was to 
know how your engine is designed, and listen to a trusted mechanic.


Wal

Joe wrote:

Not all water heaters work like that. What came with our boat had the entire 
supply of engine cooling water going through the water heater and then back to 
the engine. There was no separate loop for it. In our case small hose would 
have been bad. The hose ran from the exhaust manifold to the water heater and 
then from the water heater to the exhaust pipe injection point. Yes...they ran 
salt water through the heater. Amazingly enough that didn't kill it, it rusted 
from the outside instead.



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Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater (35-1 install)

[Bill Coleman]

This is good to know.
When I put the Nanni (Kubota) in mine, I thought they were joking with the
tiny little elbows I assumed were for water tank heating, but I could see no
other alternative, so I used them, probably 3/8 but maybe even smaller, I
don't remember now.  But it heats my water up lickety split, it seems now
this is the way it was intended. 

Bill Coleman
C&C 39 



<>

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Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater (35-1 install)

[Della Barba, Joe]

Not all water heaters work like that. What came with our boat had the entire 
supply of engine cooling water going through the water heater and then back to 
the engine. There was no separate loop for it. In our case small hose would 
have been bad. The hose ran from the exhaust manifold to the water heater and 
then from the water heater to the exhaust pipe injection point. Yes...they ran 
salt water through the heater. Amazingly enough that didn't kill it, it rusted 
from the outside instead.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater (35-1 install)

FWIW I learned a couple of things when installing my new hot water heater.

The most important was the hose size.  I originally thought that I should use a 
nice big hose to avoid creating a pressure problem. I was thinking that a big 
hose would have less resistance and would allow maximum coolant flow.  So I ran 
3/4" hose.  I thought I was being smart, because after moving the water heater 
amidships it was a long hose run that went under the cabin sole.  Well, the 
engine overheated every time I tested it.  So I talked with a trusted mechanic 
who said "Didn't I tell you to use 3/8" hose when we talked about this last 
year?  I even told you where to get it locally!  The water (coolant) pump 
doesn't generate a lot of pressure."

Apparently the way my engine is designed, the water heater ports are set up so 
that coolant can flow through the engine first, and if there's any extra 
pressure it'll work its way to the water heater and back.  Looking at the 
service manual and exploded parts diagrams, it's true.  I'd actually looked 
really good at it before hooking things up, and it didn't make a lot of sense 
to me at the time because it was clear that there was a straight path through 
the engine and I couldn't see how coolant would also get to the water heater if 
there was an easier path back to the engine block.

Anyway, I ran 3/8" hose to the water heater.  The cool thing is that my dumb 
mistake worked out to the boat's benefit, because the OD of the 3/8" hose was 
less than 3/4" and I was able to work the smaller hose inside the bigger hose, 
using the existing hose run that I'd already drilled holes for and pulled.  The 
big hose was wire reinforced Trident exhaust hose, and I probably have the 
ultimate chafe protection on the coolant hose to the water heater.  That's 
fine, since it runs under the cabin sole and through a few fiberglass elements.

Bottom line is that the mechanic was right.  The top priority is to keep the 
engine cool (duh) and enough coolant works through the little hose to the water 
heater.  For me it takes less than 1/2 hour to get it to engine temps.



Regarding air locks, I have pushed the edge on that.  I bought an 'auxiliary 
coolant tank', that can be mounted high, when doing this project, just in case 
I needed it, but I didn't because through a divine miracle the water tank ended 
up being about two inches below the top of the coolant cap on the engine.  (Of 
course that depends upon who's sitting where, and if all the crud on the boat 
is managed to keep the boat on her lines.)  Nonetheless, I've had a few air 
locks, too, and they will cause overheating.  When installing the water tank, I 
made a ball valve assembly near the engine that lets me turn off coolant to the 
water heater and send it right back to the engine.   I think I built 
that when I was trying to figure out why the 3/4" hose wasn't working, 
but really don't remember.  Early Alzheimers.   I have used the valve 
assembly to troubleshoot overheating questions since then.It's nice 
to be able to take the water heater out of the problem.  To date, overheating 
has been 1) broken belt (That's what I get for replacing a perfectly fine belt) 
 2) fish sucked up into the water intake hose  3) stupid mistake  4) stupid 
mistake  5) I don't remember, but it was probably a stupid mistake.

Wal

dwight wrote:
> I had difficulty getting the coolant to flow uphill from the engine when my"
> tank was mounted high just suspended from the bottom of the shelf in 
> the cockpit locker (port side on the MKII) I think because of airlocks.


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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Paul Fountain]

I totally agree - replaced the 2GMF in Perception, a C&C 33-II with a Beta
Marine 25 HP ... and would not go back! By the time you get it all together
- mounts transmission etc and any replacement parts you will be close to the
cost of the Beta - ESPECIALLY at the prices charged for Yanmar parts in
Canada, and the US distributors wont ship here!

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts
Sent: February 26, 2014 5:07 PM
To: 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

 

Frank on Felicity changed out his 2GM for a 3GM because he felt it was
underpowered. 

For the amount of work involved, I wouldn't bother changing out an A4 for a
2GM missing various bits. 




Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

 

On 26 February 2014 13:08, Petar Horvatic  wrote:

2 years ago I converted from A4 to Westerbeke 40 and kept the tank and
shaft.   I even kept the engine panel.

I went from 1.5" to 2" exhaust dues to increase in HP.  But going down in HP
you can keep the exhaust.  

Slightly oversized engine mounts will take care of vibrations.  Basically
like the ones you already have for A4(if you have them).  Shaft coupling can
be had with vibration dampening.  Engine will vibrate, especially at low
RPMs, but not the hull.

 

Petar Horvatic

Sundowner

76 C&C 38MkII

Newport, RI

 

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

 

Steve,

 

You'd need a tranny, new fuel tank, lines and filter, new prop, exhaust,
possibly a new shaft ...  It would probably fit, but a 2GM is not
overpowering for a 32.  It also probably came out of a boat with no hour
meter, but even 4,000 is OK if it were maintained.  I'd take that 6-10 k and
put it towards the Landfall, but that's just my opinion.

 

Joel

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Stevan Plavsa 
wrote:

Hi All,

 

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-2GM-Yanm
ar-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ569939186

 

i've got an A4. This is tempting. 

But I don't know anything about diesels and it's a little dubious. how does
one go about assessing the condition of a motor without a transmission,
outside of the boat? 

 

400 hours? Unlikely for a 30 year old motor.

 

I'm probably asking for too much.

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto


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Re: Stus-List Isotemp hot water heater - refit resource!

[Dave Godwin]

>PS Are you Wally's little brother?<

Nah, I’m fairly certain that I have the years on him. ;-)

But I do have an original bookmark that I made to his site, right around the 
time he bought that boat. Spent a lot of time researching…

Cheers.
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Lee Youngblood  
wrote:

> Thanks Dave,
> 
> I bookmarked your refit site!  What a great inspiring resource!
> 
> Thanks, Lee
> 
> PS Are you Wally's little brother?
> 
> 
> 
>> I 
>> installed
>>  (mostlyŠ) an Isotemp Slim 20 water heater in my boat. Very nice item and it 
>> allowed me to change to location of the water heater. I don't know what the 
>> locker space on a 32 is like but I was able to make a mockup of the 
>> dimensions to check before buying.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Dave Godwin
>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
>> Ronin's Overdue Refit
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Dennis Cheuvront]

"All that glitters is not gold"

   J. R. R. Tolkien

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Paul Fountain
wrote:

> I totally agree - replaced the 2GMF in Perception, a C&C 33-II with a Beta
> Marine 25 HP ... and would not go back! By the time you get it all together
> - mounts transmission etc and any replacement parts you will be close to
> the cost of the Beta - ESPECIALLY at the prices charged for Yanmar parts in
> Canada, and the US distributors wont ship here!
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Watts
> *Sent:* February 26, 2014 5:07 PM
> *To:* 1 CnC List
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available
>
>
>
> Frank on Felicity changed out his 2GM for a 3GM because he felt it was
> underpowered.
>
> For the amount of work involved, I wouldn't bother changing out an A4 for
> a 2GM missing various bits.
>
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
>
>
> On 26 February 2014 13:08, Petar Horvatic  wrote:
>
> 2 years ago I converted from A4 to Westerbeke 40 and kept the tank and
> shaft.   I even kept the engine panel.
>
> I went from 1.5" to 2" exhaust dues to increase in HP.  But going down in
> HP you can keep the exhaust.
>
> Slightly oversized engine mounts will take care of vibrations.  Basically
> like the ones you already have for A4(if you have them).  Shaft coupling
> can be had with vibration dampening.  Engine will vibrate, especially at
> low RPMs, but not the hull.
>
>
>
> Petar Horvatic
>
> Sundowner
>
> 76 C&C 38MkII
>
> Newport, RI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Aronson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:48 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
>
>
> You'd need a tranny, new fuel tank, lines and filter, new prop, exhaust,
> possibly a new shaft ...  It would probably fit, but a 2GM is not
> overpowering for a 32.  It also probably came out of a boat with no hour
> meter, but even 4,000 is OK if it were maintained.  I'd take that 6-10 k
> and put it towards the Landfall, but that's just my opinion.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Stevan Plavsa 
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
>
> http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-2GM-Yanmar-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ569939186
>
>
>
> i've got an A4. This is tempting.
>
> But I don't know anything about diesels and it's a little dubious. how
> does one go about assessing the condition of a motor without a
> transmission, outside of the boat?
>
>
>
> 400 hours? Unlikely for a 30 year old motor.
>
>
>
> I'm probably asking for too much.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Wally Bryant]

Yeah, but have you ever spent an afternoon in February walking naked 
down a beach that's filled with pyrite?


Who cares about hockey, anyway.

Wal

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Dennis Cheuvront]

I'm pretty sure the guys in Canada haven't done that.  However, as for us
"southern" guys, I plead the fifth (The Glenlivet, that is).

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
mandeville, LA


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:

> Yeah, but have you ever spent an afternoon in February walking naked down
> a beach that's filled with pyrite?
>
> Who cares about hockey, anyway.
>
> Wal
>
>
> Dennis Cheuvront wrote:
>
>> "All that glitters is not gold"
>>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Rich Knowles]

Up here, you only do that once. There is an annual polar dip on New Year's Day 
that'll freeze your nuggies. Not my idea of a stirling time. 

Rich

> On Feb 26, 2014, at 21:18, Dennis Cheuvront  wrote:
> 
> I'm pretty sure the guys in Canada haven't done that.  However, as for us 
> "southern" guys, I plead the fifth (The Glenlivet, that is).
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> mandeville, LA
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:
>> Yeah, but have you ever spent an afternoon in February walking naked down a 
>> beach that's filled with pyrite?
>> 
>> Who cares about hockey, anyway.
>> 
>> Wal
>> 
>> 
>> Dennis Cheuvront wrote:
>>> "All that glitters is not gold"
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Kevin Driscoll]

I have the 2GM20F on our 30mkII. Works well for us, but I agree with
others, you would likely be under-powered with your extra wetted surface
and displacement on the 32.

As far as all else is concerned, I cringe plenty enough at the spelling on
this list, let's drop all this talk about prancing around necked ;)

KD



Kevin Driscoll
Portland,  Oregon
503  //  875  //  3493


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Rich Knowles  wrote:

> Up here, you only do that once. There is an annual polar dip on New Year's
> Day that'll freeze your nuggies. Not my idea of a stirling time.
>
> Rich
>
> On Feb 26, 2014, at 21:18, Dennis Cheuvront  wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure the guys in Canada haven't done that.  However, as for us
> "southern" guys, I plead the fifth (The Glenlivet, that is).
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> mandeville, LA
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but have you ever spent an afternoon in February walking naked down
>> a beach that's filled with pyrite?
>>
>> Who cares about hockey, anyway.
>>
>> Wal
>>
>>
>> Dennis Cheuvront wrote:
>>
>>> "All that glitters is not gold"
>>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Rich Knowles]

Really!

Rich

> On Feb 26, 2014, at 22:46, Kevin Driscoll  wrote:
> 
> I cringe plenty enough at the spelling on this list, let's drop all this talk 
> about prancing around necked ;)

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2GM from C&C 32 available

[Wally Bryant]

 Rich wrote:

Really!

Okay, fine.  But, really, many beaches are paved with gold.  It's just 
pyrite.  But, heck, it's *shiny.*


I'll pull the internet plug.  What the heck, my 12v system is getting a 
little stressed out anyway.


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Re: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software

[Peter Fell]

Depends which samsung you have:

1) some have gps built in (my Galaxy Note 10.1 does).
2) some have (limited I believe) usb capability.

From: Blair 
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software


I have a hand held garmin 78 sc or 78 s I think it is called.
 
Could I use this as my GPS receiver in conjunction with a Samsung Galaxy and 
navionics rather than a Garmin Glo or Bad Elf

Blair Clark 902-423-4651 
 



From: r...@sailpower.ca
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:06:00 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software


For anyone with an Apple tablet but no GPS, take a look at bad-elf.com. A 
reasonable solution. 

Rich

On Feb 19, 2014, at 20:57, "Rick Brass"  wrote:


  I thought the list established a while ago that Apple didn’t sell versions of 
the iPad that were not cellular ready, and thus they had a GPS?



  And after working off and on for a couple of weeks to set up and learn the 
iPad, I’m not a great fan either. I’ve been a windows person since version 3, 
and am pretty comfortable navigating it. My Sony Android tablet is a lot easier 
to deal with than my iPad – probably because I’m learning a new set of menus 
and so on for the iPad from scratch. That’s why I would have gotten a 
waterproof Samsung Galaxy had I not been given the iPad.



  But the comment I actually wanted to make, Mike, is that the folks who run 
Active Captain indicate the second highest number of users in the world log in 
from Canada (they track the locations of folks who log in). The third highest 
number are from France, and they indicate they have really complete information 
on the French canal system. A recent entry mentioned the Active Captain data is 
in the process of being incorporated into the software from 3 European 
companies.



  Log into Active Captain on your PC and take a look at the data available for 
your home waters. That might tell you how valuable the information might be. 
Then again, it is free, so the cost is right if you chose not to put it on the 
tablet.



  Rick



  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion
  Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:21 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software



  I am not an Apple fan although the Admiral has 2. An Ipad original and a new 
Mini.  Wifi only so no GPS.



  For myself I bought a Sony Xperia tablet because it is waterproof to about 
10’.  Really only needs to be splash proof.  I bought Navionics HD and so far I 
am pleased but it has all been armchair sailing.  Eventually I’ll load Active 
Captain but I’m not sure how useful it will be in Canada



  Mike
  S/V Persuasion
  C&C 37 Keel/CB
  Long Sault



  From: Fair, Mike 

  Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:05 PM

  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

  Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software



  Any recommendations for us Android tablet users?



  Thanks,



  Mike Fair

  Finnyacht 351



  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
Plavsa
  Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:54 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software



  The problem with an expensive helm mounted chart plotter is that it'll be old 
news in a few years. I'm not keen on spending ~$1500 or more on a chart plotter 
that will be "old tech" a few years from now. The iPad does so much more than 
navigation and is half the price. Sure, you can't read it easily in sunlight 
and it's not waterproof .. I can buy two iPads for the price of a raymarine 
plotter though. And I can take the iPad home and do all sorts of other things 
with it (primarily reading sailing magazines with Zinio) but I digress...



  I'de like to have a plotter, or some kind of multi-display unit at the helm 
but the prices on them aren't justified in my opinion. I am making the same 
thing using OpenCPN, a laptop and likely the Standard Horizon GX2200 for GPS 
and AIS info for the laptop. I already have the laptop, OpenCPN is free (and 
good!) so I'll only be spending the $350 on the AIS/GPS capable VHF radio 
vs $1500 for the same functionality at the helm? I can't justify that.



  If the technology was more modular, ie; the multidisplay had proper buttons 
and was really *JUST* a display and interface I'de be more interested. $1500 is 
a lot to spend on what is essentially a touch screen monitor .. except it's not 
is it? It's a raymarine/garmin/sh whizbang that isn't upgradable and will 
essentially suck compared to the new stuff in 5 years. Oh yeah,and charts are 
really expensive too. I happily paid $50 for navionics with charts for all of 
North America!!! Charts that get updated! Give me a waterproof, sun viewable 
iPad type device that uses open protocols that i can mount at the helm and I'de 
gladly spend $1500 on it. All I