Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
I always found it quite interesting that insured boats were covered by their policies while racing. From my experience racing seemed a higher risk activity for collisions that at least might rate a higher premium for special coverage for racing compared to the premiums for boats that did not race, but I don't think that is the case yet. _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of johnr...@aol.com Sent: April 4, 2014 11:40 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
Our insurance covers us for regular racing with standard deductibles, but has far higher deductibles for sail and rig damage in named races like Southern Straits or Swiftsure. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 5 April 2014 03:19, dwight dwight...@gmail.com wrote: I always found it quite interesting that insured boats were covered by their policies while racing. From my experience racing seemed a higher risk activity for collisions that at least might rate a higher premium for special coverage for racing compared to the premiums for boats that did not race, but I don't think that is the case yet. -- *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of * johnr...@aol.com *Sent:* April 4, 2014 11:40 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis C. *Sent:* April-04-14 17:53 *To:* CnClist *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Mixed topics in this one ... National Yacht Club had a Hunter drop during lift out a few years back. The bow was wounded badly. Rumor has it that the forward sling position was mark too far forward. At NYC it is the owner's responsibility to place tape on the toe rail where the slings should go. The Hunter slid off the forward sling and went down a short distance nose first. The hole through the bow was reported to be caused not directly from the fall but a loose spinnaker pole or boom inside the boat falling forward. Punctured a hole right through the fiberglass. Michael if you ever need crew I'm available! Steve Will do. We also run practices on the weekend and MOB drills. Though with the water temps it may not be the first week of May ;-) Might also do a practice run to DYC and back, maybe some night sailing. Don't know how your local racing is regulated, but a whisker pole more than 1.5 J is usually not allowed. John McLaughlin From the current PHRF-LO handicapper's manual: 7.2. WHISKER POLE Effective April 2009: There will no longer be a penalty for oversized Whisker Pole lengths. 7.2.1. One whisker pole only shall be used. 7.2.2. Provisions of US Sailing rule 54, prohibiting sheeting of sails over or through outriggers, are specifically voided for whisker poles used according to the provisions of this paragraph. The reference to US Sailing rule 54 is dated. 54 now states: 54 FORESTAYS AND HEADSAIL TACKS Forestays and headsail tacks, except those of spinnaker staysails when the boat is not close-hauled, shall be attached approximately on a boat’s centreline. Likely refers to this: 50.3 Use of Outriggers (a) No sail shall be sheeted over or through an outrigger, except as permitted in rule 50.3(b) or 50.3(c). An outrigger is any fitting or other device so placed that it could exert outward pressure on a sheet or sail at a point from which, with the boat upright, a vertical line would fall outside the hull or deck. For the purpose of this rule, bulwarks, rails and rubbing strakes are not part of the hull or deck and the following are not outriggers: a bowsprit used to secure the tack of a sail, a bumkin used to sheet the boom of a sail, or a boom of a boomed headsail that requires no adjustment when tacking. (b) Any sail may be sheeted to or led above a boom that is regularly used for a sail and is permanently attached to the mast from which the head of the sail is set. (c) A headsail may be sheeted or attached at its clew to a spinnaker pole or whisker pole, provided that a spinnaker is not set. Though common holding out a sail or sheet by hand, boat hook or anything that is not attached to the mast / spinnaker ring may be against rules. At NYC if people hold the #1 out a bit in light shifty winds to prevent chaffing on the spreaders no one seems to worry. I see differences club to club in the PHRF ratings, length of whisker poles is one of the more common one. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 17:46:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Harben sailadventu...@rogers.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: 1396658778.47199.yahoomail...@web121903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ... National Yacht Club had a Hunter drop during lift out a few years back. The bow was wounded badly. The year after, a mast dropped with people and boats around. I was in the dry sail area watching the process with wide eyes. I did the stop and warning from a distance ... scary. ? ? Don PS I sailed at NYC in the old two story wood clubhouse that backed on the Ball Stadium. There is picture of the old clubhouse in one of the meeting rooms. There were no docks in the basin, only moorings. I dry sailed Lightnings out through the moorings and the gaps ... most boats andsailers lived to see another day ...LOL Message: 11 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 22:28:38 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: Don Harben sailadventu...@rogers.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: CADdEvn5zW=hbQZ0OdhZc2+BUwW7bdz5pRPf=9BThp=hdpom...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Michael if you ever need crew I'm available! Steve Message: 12 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 22:37:17 -0400 (EDT) From: johnr...@aol.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: 8d11e8f183ead2b-828-2a...@webmail-vd018.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't know how your local racing is regulated, but a whisker pole more than 1.5 J is usually not allowed. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
But you drive every day with uninsured motorists... At usually dangerous speeds Ron C. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:39 PM, johnr...@aol.com wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu mailto:rtaill...@eastlink.cartaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown mailto:m...@tkg.cam...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.comstevanpla...@gmail.com To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: mailto:caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.comcaddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.comhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comwww.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.comhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.comhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
If you are a racer, you should have the integrity to get the proper insurance. John McLaughlin CC29MKII Falcon -Original Message- From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance toprotect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'mcovered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In thecase of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurancecompany wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't neednor am I entitled to. Cheers,Russ Sweet35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race againstuninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I'venever been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, avalid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionallyhave to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverageis adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieurtaill...@eastlink.cawrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 millionliability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be onfile in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've neverhad to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brownm...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell.Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier,even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy ofwelcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS onTuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYCalso starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have twoAround the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You willneed a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loanyou. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsastevanpla...@gmail.com To:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some funraces the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races thisyear. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date:04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
Hi John, That's my point. I have the proper insurance. I am bemused why the pointy heads insist that I protect my asset...because it's in the Sailing Instructions?!! and that makes it right? It is a simple fact that you should buy insurance to protect yourself. Maybe it's the herd instinct, I have it, so should everybody. I buy insurance to protect my net worth, not yours! Why is this so difficult for people to understand? In the old days an insurance guy would distract you with terms fancy terms and threaten that you could not collect on a judgement if the other guy wasn't insured. But under-insured protection, it is standard in my policy, has thrown out that argument a long time ago. But the mystery remains.. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:31 PM 05/04/2014, you wrote: If you are a racer, you should have the integrity to get the proper insurance. John McLaughlin CC29MKII Falcon -Original Message- From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.comcapt...@gmail.com To: CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu mailto:rtaill...@eastlink.cartaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown mailto:m...@tkg.cam...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.comstevanpla...@gmail.com To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: mailto:caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.comhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comwww.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14
Stus-List Replace impeller on Sherwood pump
I tried to replace the impeller on my Sherwood 9000k raw water pump today. I put the impeller on the shaft and then attempted to get the cover and O-ring back on. I could not get the O-ring to stay in the recessed groove so that I could reassemble it. It pops out on its own as soon as I let go of it, so there is no way to hold it in place and fit the cover over the impeller. I hope someone knows the trick I am missing. Thanks- Dave David KnechtAries1990 CC 34+New London, CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Hi David, If a few dabs of Vaseline won't hold the O-ring in the groove long enough to get the cover into place then I think it be a wee bit too short. Was it exposed to solvent fumes or something like that? Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:55 PM 05/04/2014, you wrote: I tried to replace the impeller on my Sherwood 9000k raw water pump today. I put the impeller on the shaft and then attempted to get the cover and O-ring back on. I could not get the O-ring to stay in the recessed groove so that I could reassemble it. It pops out on its own as soon as I let go of it, so there is no way to hold it in place and fit the cover over the impeller. I hope someone knows the trick I am missing. Thanks- Dave David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT [] ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Replace impeller on Sherwood pump
Grease. Try bedding it in a light grease to keep it in place. Peanut butter works OK as well. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 5 April 2014 20:55, David Knecht davidakne...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to replace the impeller on my Sherwood 9000k raw water pump today. I put the impeller on the shaft and then attempted to get the cover and O-ring back on. I could not get the O-ring to stay in the recessed groove so that I could reassemble it. It pops out on its own as soon as I let go of it, so there is no way to hold it in place and fit the cover over the impeller. I hope someone knows the trick I am missing. Thanks- Dave David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com inline: pastedGraphic.tiff___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
It's quite simple, the insurance companies want to make it easy. If the guy who just drove his bow through your wet locker has no insurance, they will have to go to great extremes to make it good. If he has insurance, then it's no problem, it's an internal paper chase. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 5 April 2014 20:49, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Hi John, That's my point. I have the proper insurance. I am bemused why the pointy heads insist that I protect my asset...because it's in the Sailing Instructions?!! and that makes it right? It is a simple fact that you should buy insurance to protect yourself. Maybe it's the herd instinct, I have it, so should everybody. I buy insurance to protect my net worth, not yours! Why is this so difficult for people to understand? In the old days an insurance guy would distract you with terms fancy terms and threaten that you could not collect on a judgement if the other guy wasn't insured. But under-insured protection, it is standard in my policy, has thrown out that argument a long time ago. But the mystery remains.. Cheers, Russ *Sweet *35 mk-1 At 08:31 PM 05/04/2014, you wrote: If you are a racer, you should have the integrity to get the proper insurance. John McLaughlin CC29MKII Falcon -Original Message- From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ *Sweet *35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.comcnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area.Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
Re: Stus-List Now racing insurance
Hi My primary interest is liability insurance especially for potential liabilities hurting or killing someone in a sailing event on and off the race course On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:13 AM, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: It's quite simple, the insurance companies want to make it easy. If the guy who just drove his bow through your wet locker has no insurance, they will have to go to great extremes to make it good. If he has insurance, then it's no problem, it's an internal paper chase. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 5 April 2014 20:49, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Hi John, That's my point. I have the proper insurance. I am bemused why the pointy heads insist that I protect my asset...because it's in the Sailing Instructions?!! and that makes it right? It is a simple fact that you should buy insurance to protect yourself. Maybe it's the herd instinct, I have it, so should everybody. I buy insurance to protect my net worth, not yours! Why is this so difficult for people to understand? In the old days an insurance guy would distract you with terms fancy terms and threaten that you could not collect on a judgement if the other guy wasn't insured. But under-insured protection, it is standard in my policy, has thrown out that argument a long time ago. But the mystery remains.. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:31 PM 05/04/2014, you wrote: If you are a racer, you should have the integrity to get the proper insurance. John McLaughlin CC29MKII Falcon -Original Message- From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
I may be stunned, what with living in Eastern Canada and all, but I don't understand the difficulty with the insurance question. My insurance covers me for both self inflicted silliness like repairs resulting from running aground, and also provides me with some monetary protection in the event I am held accountable for physical damage to other persons or their property, whether I am racing, cruising or at anchor. All in all, a very sensible thing to have in my opinion. Rich On Apr 6, 2014, at 0:49, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Hi John, That's my point. I have the proper insurance. I am bemused why the pointy heads insist that I protect my asset...because it's in the Sailing Instructions?!! and that makes it right? It is a simple fact that you should buy insurance to protect yourself. Maybe it's the herd instinct, I have it, so should everybody. I buy insurance to protect my net worth, not yours! Why is this so difficult for people to understand? In the old days an insurance guy would distract you with terms fancy terms and threaten that you could not collect on a judgement if the other guy wasn't insured. But under-insured protection, it is standard in my policy, has thrown out that argument a long time ago. But the mystery remains.. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:31 PM 05/04/2014, you wrote: If you are a racer, you should have the integrity to get the proper insurance. John McLaughlin CC29MKII Falcon -Original Message- From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I
Re: Stus-List Now racing insurance
To be crass, it is much more expensive to badly hurt someone than if he or she gets killed. To the point, your insurance protects you from the above liability judgement. Your under-insured protection protects you if you are the above and the other guy didn't buy any or enough liability protection. You buy insurance to protect yourself. It is that simple. The industry is striving for everyone to be forced to protect themselves and it appears to be successful. I am insured and I am an anarchist, so I wish that everyone has the right to decide on his or her own level of protection. Free trade and sailor's rights! Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:21 PM 05/04/2014, you wrote: Hi My primary interest is liability insurance especially for potential liabilities hurting or killing someone in a sailing event on and off the race course On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:13 AM, Jim Watts mailto:paradigmat...@gmail.comparadigmat...@gmail.com wrote: It's quite simple, the insurance companies want to make it easy. If the guy who just drove his bow through your wet locker has no insurance, they will have to go to great extremes to make it good. If he has insurance, then it's no problem, it's an internal paper chase. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 5 April 2014 20:49, Russ Melody mailto:russ...@telus.netruss...@telus.net wrote: Hi John, That's my point. I have the proper insurance. I am bemused why the pointy heads insist that I protect my asset...because it's in the Sailing Instructions?!! and that makes it right? It is a simple fact that you should buy insurance to protect yourself. Maybe it's the herd instinct, I have it, so should everybody. I buy insurance to protect my net worth, not yours! Why is this so difficult for people to understand? In the old days an insurance guy would distract you with terms fancy terms and threaten that you could not collect on a judgement if the other guy wasn't insured. But under-insured protection, it is standard in my policy, has thrown out that argument a long time ago. But the mystery remains.. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:31 PM 05/04/2014, you wrote: If you are a racer, you should have the integrity to get the proper insurance. John McLaughlin CC29MKII Falcon -Original Message- From: Russ Melody mailto:russ...@telus.netruss...@telus.net To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.comcapt...@gmail.com To: CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu mailto:rtaill...@eastlink.cartaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown mailto:m...@tkg.cam...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from
