Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

[Terry via CnC-List]

Here is a pic of the part, it is the white coupler on top of pump. I'm going to 
the boat this weekend and try to find make and model on the pump 

Thanks 
Terry Pearson
1896 C&C 33 MKII 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> If I may add, take pictures and make them available (DropBox, Google+, 
> OneDrive, whatever is your favourite place to share pictures). It would be 
> substantially easier to figure out what you need if others could see what is 
> broken.
>  
> Be aware that a lot of marine plumbing is common with the RVs; so you may 
> have luck visiting a local RV place (with the broken part in hand). Don’t 
> count that any fittings from a hardware store would work (different threads, 
> different diameters).
>  
> Good luck
>  
> Marek Dziedzic
> 1994 C270 “Legato”
> Ottawa, ON
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
> Muckley via CnC-List
> Sent: October-30-15 21:28
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> Cc: Josh Muckley
> Subject: Re: Stus-List plumbing problem
>  
> Hey Terry,
> 
> Sounds like you're new to the list.  Welcome.  The plumbing systems on our 
> boats are varied in nature and not particularly C&C specific.  Your best bet 
> is to get the pump specifics (make, model, serial) and look for a discharge 
> check valve part from the manufacturer.  If you don't have any luck get back 
> to us with the specs and maybe we will be more lucky.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S /V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Boom Furling complications

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Hey...Newport was just chosen as the only North American stopover for the 
2017-2018 Volvo Race...more big guys.  

Harry
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> who are the big guys...if it were me i would stay away from that so called 
> fun if I had a choice
> 
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Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I would eat my words and I would suggest that these fittings look very much 
like the hardware store plumbing parts.??

 

Marek

 

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Sent: October-31-15 05:25
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Cc: Terry
Subject: Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

 

Here is a pic of the part, it is the white coupler on top of pump. I'm going to 
the boat this weekend and try to find make and model on the pump 
image1.JPG
Thanks 

Terry Pearson

1896 C&C 33 MKII 

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 wrote:

If I may add, take pictures and make them available (DropBox, Google+, 
OneDrive, whatever is your favourite place to share pictures). It would be 
substantially easier to figure out what you need if others could see what is 
broken.

 

Be aware that a lot of marine plumbing is common with the RVs; so you may have 
luck visiting a local RV place (with the broken part in hand). Don’t count that 
any fittings from a hardware store would work (different threads, different 
diameters).

 

Good luck

 

Marek Dziedzic

1994 C270 “Legato”

Ottawa, ON

 

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Sent: October-30-15 21:28
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Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

 

Hey Terry, 

Sounds like you're new to the list.  Welcome.  The plumbing systems on our 
boats are varied in nature and not particularly C&C specific.  Your best bet is 
to get the pump specifics (make, model, serial) and look for a discharge check 
valve part from the manufacturer.  If you don't have any luck get back to us 
with the specs and maybe we will be more lucky.

Warm regards,

Josh Muckley
S /V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, 







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Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

[Dave via CnC-List]

Hi terry,  
 
Could not see a link to the pic, but send me one directly if you wish.

My 33ii has no such fitting downstream of the pressure water pump, and my 
plumbing looks to be original.
It may be that a PO installed that (it sounds like a check valve) to keep the 
pump from cycling as the downstream side lost pressure.  The system works but 
can  be a bit quirky.  You may not need the broken part.

Dave


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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:27:51 -0900
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C&C List" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List plumbing problem
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>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hey Terry,
> 
> Sounds like you're new to the list.  Welcome.  The plumbing systems on our
> boats are varied in nature and not particularly C&C specific.  Your best
> bet is to get the pump specifics (make, model, serial) and look for a
> discharge check valve part from the manufacturer.  If you don't have any
> luck get back to us with the specs and maybe we will be more lucky.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S /V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Oct 30, 2015 9:05 PM, "Terry Pearson via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello all, first, I own a 1986 C&C 33 MK2, while winterizing my boat, I
>> found a water leak on the discharge side of my potable water pump. The
>> fitting between the pump and the elbow was cracked. I tried to unscrew the
>> fitting and the theads snapped off in the pump housing. i haven?t tried
>> yet, but am pretty certain I can use an ease out to get the remaining
>> treads out of the pump. The problem I am having is I can not find the
>> replacement part, or even know what it is called. Its a a white plastic
>> fitting, male threads on both ends with a ball check valve built into the
>> fitting. any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Terry Pearson
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

[Dave via CnC-List]

Hi terry,  

Could not see a link to the pic, but send me one directly if you wish.

My 33ii has no such fitting downstream of the pressure water pump, and my 
plumbing looks to be original.
It may be that a PO installed that (it sounds like a check valve) to keep the 
pump from cycling as the downstream side lost pressure.  The system works but 
can  be a bit quirky.  You may not need the broken part.

Fwiw the pump on my 33ii is a flojet 4405.

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C51%7C2234226%7C2234231&id=151034


Dave


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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:27:51 -0900
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C&C List" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List plumbing problem
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hey Terry,
> 
> Sounds like you're new to the list.  Welcome.  The plumbing systems on our
> boats are varied in nature and not particularly C&C specific.  Your best
> bet is to get the pump specifics (make, model, serial) and look for a
> discharge check valve part from the manufacturer.  If you don't have any
> luck get back to us with the specs and maybe we will be more lucky.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S /V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Oct 30, 2015 9:05 PM, "Terry Pearson via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello all, first, I own a 1986 C&C 33 MK2, while winterizing my boat, I
>> found a water leak on the discharge side of my potable water pump. The
>> fitting between the pump and the elbow was cracked. I tried to unscrew the
>> fitting and the theads snapped off in the pump housing. i haven?t tried
>> yet, but am pretty certain I can use an ease out to get the remaining
>> treads out of the pump. The problem I am having is I can not find the
>> replacement part, or even know what it is called. Its a a white plastic
>> fitting, male threads on both ends with a ball check valve built into the
>> fitting. any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Terry Pearson
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[Indigo via CnC-List]

I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from this amazing 
group on techniques used to change the oil filter while minimizing drips and 
spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old filter off without dripping oil 
down the side of the engine. What am I doing wrong?

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SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Its a Jabsco diaphram pump with off the shelf fittings.  Taje the parts to
your favorite hardware store and find direct replacements.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis

On Saturday, October 31, 2015, Dave via CnC-List 
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> Hi terry,
>
> Could not see a link to the pic, but send me one directly if you wish.
>
> My 33ii has no such fitting downstream of the pressure water pump, and my
> plumbing looks to be original.
> It may be that a PO installed that (it sounds like a check valve) to keep
> the pump from cycling as the downstream side lost pressure.  The system
> works but can  be a bit quirky.  You may not need the broken part.
>
> Fwiw the pump on my 33ii is a flojet 4405.
>
>
> http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C51%7C2234226%7C2234231&id=151034
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> >
> > --
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:27:51 -0900
> > From: Josh Muckley >
> > To: "C&C List" >
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List plumbing problem
> > Message-ID:
> >>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hey Terry,
> >
> > Sounds like you're new to the list.  Welcome.  The plumbing systems on
> our
> > boats are varied in nature and not particularly C&C specific.  Your best
> > bet is to get the pump specifics (make, model, serial) and look for a
> > discharge check valve part from the manufacturer.  If you don't have any
> > luck get back to us with the specs and maybe we will be more lucky.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Josh Muckley
> > S /V Sea Hawk
> > 1989 C&C 37+
> > Solomons, MD
> > On Oct 30, 2015 9:05 PM, "Terry Pearson via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello all, first, I own a 1986 C&C 33 MK2, while winterizing my boat, I
> >> found a water leak on the discharge side of my potable water pump. The
> >> fitting between the pump and the elbow was cracked. I tried to unscrew
> the
> >> fitting and the theads snapped off in the pump housing. i haven?t tried
> >> yet, but am pretty certain I can use an ease out to get the remaining
> >> treads out of the pump. The problem I am having is I can not find the
> >> replacement part, or even know what it is called. Its a a white plastic
> >> fitting, male threads on both ends with a ball check valve built into
> the
> >> fitting. any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >> Terry Pearson
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Oil dripping down the side indicates that you are doing it right!

Seriously though, there is no way to prevent it.  I take a lightly used
absorbent pad from under the engine and place it under the filter.  If I'm
quick i can usually minimize the mess.

An aftermarket oil filter relocator kit would allow for a less messy time
but finding room might be difficult.  JEGS, JC Whitney, and Amsoil all have
kits.

Josh Muckley
S /V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Oct 31, 2015 8:18 AM, "Indigo via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from this
> amazing group on techniques used to change the oil filter while minimizing
> drips and spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old filter off
> without dripping oil down the side of the engine. What am I doing wrong?
>
> --
> Jonathan
> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

One neat trick I learned at a diesel clinic is, slide a gallon zip lock up 
around the filter & then unscrew it letting it drip into the bag, then drop the 
filter into the bag and seal.


Bill Coleman C&C39

 Original message 
From: Indigo via CnC-List  
Date: 10/31/2015  8:16 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Indigo  
Subject: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf 

I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from this amazing 
group on techniques used to change the oil filter while minimizing drips and 
spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old filter off without dripping oil 
down the side of the engine. What am I doing wrong?

--
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Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

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The ziplock bag helps.  If you want to have less oil in the filter, punching a 
hole in the top with a screwdriver before you drain the oil also helps, but 
there will be something to wipe up in any case.

Tim

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>  wrote:
> 
> One neat trick I learned at a diesel clinic is, slide a gallon zip lock up 
> around the filter & then unscrew it letting it drip into the bag, then drop 
> the filter into the bag and seal.
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Coleman 
> C&C39
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Indigo via CnC-List  
> Date: 10/31/2015 8:16 AM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Indigo  
> Subject: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf 
> 
> I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from this 
> amazing group on techniques used to change the oil filter while minimizing 
> drips and spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old filter off without 
> dripping oil down the side of the engine. What am I doing wrong?
> 
> --
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> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Sent info off list.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Oct 31, 2015 5:25 AM, "Terry via CnC-List"  wrote:

> Here is a pic of the part, it is the white coupler on top of pump. I'm
> going to the boat this weekend and try to find make and model on the pump
> [image: image1.JPG]
> Thanks
> Terry Pearson
> 1896 C&C 33 MKII
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> If I may add, take pictures and make them available (DropBox, Google+,
> OneDrive, whatever is your favourite place to share pictures). It would be
> substantially easier to figure out what you need if others could see what
> is broken.
>
>
>
> Be aware that a lot of marine plumbing is common with the RVs; so you may
> have luck visiting a local RV place (with the broken part in hand). Don’t
> count that any fittings from a hardware store would work (different
> threads, different diameters).
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> Marek Dziedzic
>
> 1994 C270 “Legato”
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* October-30-15 21:28
> *To:* C&C List
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List plumbing problem
>
>
>
> Hey Terry,
>
> Sounds like you're new to the list.  Welcome.  The plumbing systems on our
> boats are varied in nature and not particularly C&C specific.  Your best
> bet is to get the pump specifics (make, model, serial) and look for a
> discharge check valve part from the manufacturer.  If you don't have any
> luck get back to us with the specs and maybe we will be more lucky.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Josh Muckley
> S /V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons,
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List : The platform question

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Hi Stu and everyone,

 

Did you ever consider switching the list into a forum?

 

I really enjoy reading this everyday, here is so much shared knowlegede and enthusiasm, but it's a pain in the neck to actually read.

These are some problems with the actual list:

- When you clip everything off, it is hard to see what you exactly answered.

- If you leave the whole thing on, it is simply undecipherable.

- If you try to search for someting, you get way too many double, triple quintuple hits because of these copies.

- This list is the only recipient where I have to switch my email formatting off, or can's include a picture.

 

A forum could organize all thisd so much better

- You can follow the threads, expand or compress them to your hearts content and stay on topic.

- You answer exactly what and where you want to answer.

- It builds a searchable archive all by itself.

- If you don't want to go on it every day, subscribe to a newletter digest.

- You have a consistent layout which makes reading and searching so much easier.

- It is even easy to see if there was a there already a thread, link ist, add photos (just think wiring diagrams, sail plans, manuals etc.)

 

Some samples:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/

http://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php

 

from other vocations:

http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php

http://saabworld.net/forum.php

 

I am aware that the text-only has an advantage when you are far out at sea otr high up oin a mountain and everxy bit counts. But let's be honest, most of us reading the list probably sit at home with a PC, Mac, tablet or smartphone and don't have to count the bits anymore (except the are Bitburger Pilseners).

 

I am pretty much under water these days but am happy to look around for some free solution (yes, we even used one of these at a newppaper website).

Any thoughts?

 

Cheers,

Janko

1980 C&C MkI Messing About


 

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Stus-List : The platform question

[Janko Puls via CnC-List]

Hi Stu and everyone,
 
Did you ever consider switching the list into a forum?
 
I really enjoy reading this everyday, here is so much shared knowlegede and 
enthusiasm, but it's a pain in the neck to actually read.
These are some problems with the actual list:
- When you clip everything off, it is hard to see what you exactly answered.
- If you leave the whole thing on, it is simply undecipherable.
- If you try to search for someting, you get way too many double, triple 
quintuple hits because of these copies.
- This list is the only recipient where I have to switch my email formatting 
off, or can's include a picture.
 
A forum could organize all thisd so much better
- You can follow the threads, expand or compress them to your hearts content 
and stay on topic.
- You answer exactly what and where you want to answer.
- It builds a searchable archive all by itself.
- If you don't want to go on it every day, subscribe to a newletter digest.
- You have a consistent layout which makes reading and searching so much easier.
- It is even easy to see if there was a there already a thread, link ist, add 
photos (just think wiring diagrams, sail plans, manuals etc.)
 
Some samples:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/
http://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php
 
from other vocations:
http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php[http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php]
http://saabworld.net/forum.php
 
I am aware that the text-only has an advantage when you are far out at sea otr 
high up oin a mountain and everxy bit counts. But let's be honest, most of us 
reading the list probably sit at home with a PC, Mac, tablet or smartphone and 
don't have to count the bits anymore (except the are Bitburger Pilseners).
 
I am pretty much under water these days but am happy to look around for some 
free solution (yes, we even used one of these at a newppaper website).
Any thoughts?
 
Cheers,
Janko
1980 C&C MkI Messing About
 
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Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

They look like Qest fittings--nothing special. Available at True Vale 
Hardware...

Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:24 AM, Terry via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Here is a pic of the part, it is the white coupler on top of pump. I'm going 
> to the boat this weekend and try to find make and model on the pump 
> 
> Thanks 
> Terry Pearson
> 1896 C&C 33 MKII 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If I may add, take pictures and make them available (DropBox, Google+, 
>> OneDrive, whatever is your favourite place to share pictures). It would be 
>> substantially easier to figure out what you need if others could see what is 
>> broken.
>>  
>> Be aware that a lot of marine plumbing is common with the RVs; so you may 
>> have luck visiting a local RV place (with the broken part in hand). Don’t 
>> count that any fittings from a hardware store would work (different threads, 
>> different diameters).
>>  
>> Good luck
>>  
>> Marek Dziedzic
>> 1994 C270 “Legato”
>> Ottawa, ON
>>  
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
>> Muckley via CnC-List
>> Sent: October-30-15 21:28
>> To: C&C List
>> Cc: Josh Muckley
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List plumbing problem
>>  
>> Hey Terry,
>> 
>> Sounds like you're new to the list.  Welcome.  The plumbing systems on our 
>> boats are varied in nature and not particularly C&C specific.  Your best bet 
>> is to get the pump specifics (make, model, serial) and look for a discharge 
>> check valve part from the manufacturer.  If you don't have any luck get back 
>> to us with the specs and maybe we will be more lucky.
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S /V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

I asked this same question about two years ago and tried both techniques. I
found for myself that stuffing an absorbent pad around the filter was the
best and least messy solution. I tried the bag trick twice but it actually
made more of a mess because you just can't twist the filter very fast with
the bag on, especially once the oil actually gets in the bag and lubricates
the entire outside of the filter.

Just get the pad good and stuffed in at the base of the filter. It's the
best way for me.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 5:49 AM Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The ziplock bag helps.  If you want to have less oil in the filter,
> punching a hole in the top with a screwdriver before you drain the oil also
> helps, but there will be something to wipe up in any case.
>
> Tim
>
> > On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > One neat trick I learned at a diesel clinic is, slide a gallon zip lock
> up around the filter & then unscrew it letting it drip into the bag, then
> drop the filter into the bag and seal.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Coleman
> > C&C39
> >
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Indigo via CnC-List 
> > Date: 10/31/2015 8:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: Indigo 
> > Subject: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf
> >
> > I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from this
> amazing group on techniques used to change the oil filter while minimizing
> drips and spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old filter off
> without dripping oil down the side of the engine. What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan
> > Indigo C&C 35III
> > SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List : The platform question

[Bill Bina via CnC-List]

This has been discussed at painful lengths and was settled long ago. A 
forum would break up this well established community and you would lose 
most of the brain-trust of long-time list members, who have been here 
CONTRIBUTING regularly for well over a decade. There are plenty of 
forums out there, if that is what you want. If you want the collective 
wisdom of all of the long-time regulars here, this is where you will 
find them. The website backs up the list with a permanent library of 
resources and articles pertaining to C&C


There is also a digest form of this list if that is your issue.

We don't need another 100 post thread about this. It has been discussed 
to death.


Bill Bina

On 10/31/2015 8:55 AM, Janko Puls via CnC-List wrote:

Hi Stu and everyone,

Did you ever consider switching the list into a forum?



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Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

Qest fittings. I had to order my replacement online. Couldn't find them
locally.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 6:09 AM Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> They look like Qest fittings--nothing special. Available at True Vale
> Hardware...
>
> Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer
>
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:24 AM, Terry via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Here is a pic of the part, it is the white coupler on top of pump. I'm
> going to the boat this weekend and try to find make and model on the pump
> [image: image1.JPG]
> Thanks
> Terry Pearson
> 1896 C&C 33 MKII
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> If I may add, take pictures and make them available (DropBox, Google+,
> OneDrive, whatever is your favourite place to share pictures). It would be
> substantially easier to figure out what you need if others could see what
> is broken.
>
>
>
> Be aware that a lot of marine plumbing is common with the RVs; so you may
> have luck visiting a local RV place (with the broken part in hand). Don’t
> count that any fittings from a hardware store would work (different
> threads, different diameters).
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> Marek Dziedzic
>
> 1994 C270 “Legato”
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* October-30-15 21:28
> *To:* C&C List
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List plumbing problem
>
>
>
> Hey Terry,
>
> Sounds like you're new to the list.  Welcome.  The plumbing systems on our
> boats are varied in nature and not particularly C&C specific.  Your best
> bet is to get the pump specifics (make, model, serial) and look for a
> discharge check valve part from the manufacturer.  If you don't have any
> luck get back to us with the specs and maybe we will be more lucky.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Josh Muckley
> S /V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons,
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Terry,

Per your original email you are referring to the WHITE fittings NOT the
grey ones,  correct?

The white ones came with the pump and are the suction and discharge check
valves.  See my previous emails.

As others have said the grey ones are Qest.  The largest selection can be
found here.

https://www.plumbingsupply.com/polyb.html

You'll probably want to bookmark the website since you're likely to need
these fittings in the future.  When assembling don't use any sealants.
Hand tighten and then add ~1/4 turn.

Josh
On Oct 30, 2015 9:05 PM, "Terry Pearson via CnC-List" 
wrote:

>
>
> Hello all, first, I own a 1986 C&C 33 MK2, while winterizing my boat, I
> found a water leak on the discharge side of my potable water pump. The
> fitting between the pump and the elbow was cracked. I tried to unscrew the
> fitting and the theads snapped off in the pump housing. i haven’t tried
> yet, but am pretty certain I can use an ease out to get the remaining
> treads out of the pump. The problem I am having is I can not find the
> replacement part, or even know what it is called. Its a a white plastic
> fitting, male threads on both ends with a ball check valve built into the
> fitting. any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Terry Pearson
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List : The platform question

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Many emails can be set to thread view.  I use gmail in thread view.  Easy
to follow a particular thread or to ignore it.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Janko Puls via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Stu and everyone,
>
> Did you ever consider switching the list into a forum?
>
> I really enjoy reading this everyday, here is so much shared knowlegede
> and enthusiasm, but it's a pain in the neck to actually read.
> These are some problems with the actual list:
> - When you clip everything off, it is hard to see what you exactly
> answered.
> - If you leave the whole thing on, it is simply undecipherable.
> - If you try to search for someting, you get way too many double, triple
> quintuple hits because of these copies.
> - This list is the only recipient where I have to switch my email
> formatting off, or can's include a picture.
>
> A forum could organize all thisd so much better
> - You can follow the threads, expand or compress them to your hearts
> content and stay on topic.
> - You answer exactly what and where you want to answer.
> - It builds a searchable archive all by itself.
> - If you don't want to go on it every day, subscribe to a newletter digest.
> - You have a consistent layout which makes reading and searching so much
> easier.
> - It is even easy to see if there was a there already a thread, link ist,
> add photos (just think wiring diagrams, sail plans, manuals etc.)
>
> Some samples:
> http://www.cruisersforum.com/
> http://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php
>
> from other vocations:
> http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php
> http://saabworld.net/forum.php
>
> I am aware that the text-only has an advantage when you are far out at sea
> otr high up oin a mountain and everxy bit counts. But let's be honest, most
> of us reading the list probably sit at home with a PC, Mac, tablet or
> smartphone and don't have to count the bits anymore (except the are
> Bitburger Pilseners).
>
> I am pretty much under water these days but am happy to look around for
> some free solution (yes, we even used one of these at a newppaper website).
> Any thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
> Janko
> 1980 C&C MkI Messing About
>
>
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> A photo book by Janko Puls.
>
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Re: Stus-List Fuel vents

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

The trap would answer the question if the water was in fact coming in the vent 
line.
If it was, it might identify the conditions that cause it.

I could imagine water splashing in a few tablespoons at a time, but not causing 
an
issue until enough accumulated in the tank to get picked up. That would leave 
the
owner wondering how a gallon of water got in.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1



Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:13:32 -0500 
From: "Dennis C."  
To: CnClist  
Subject: Stus-List Other fuel system water ingress sources 
Message-ID: 
      
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 
 
While we're on the subject, two other things to check: 
 
1.  Fuel fill cap gasket o-ring 
2.  Fuel fill cap if plastic.  It could be cracked. 
 
Dennis C. 

Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:38:03 -0900 
From: Josh Muckley  
To: "C&C List"  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel vents 
Message-ID: 
      
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 
 
Michael, 
 
I can see what you were going for and I think it would partially work. 
Ideally a larger drop-out tank could be attached to the drain fitting and a 
fluid sensor added.   In my case it seems simpler to just re-plumb the vent 
inside the adjacent propane locker or up a lifeline stanchion.  I don't 
think it would out perform a centerline vent loop either. 
 
Josh Muckley 
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 C&C 37+ 
Solomons, MD 
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[ahycrace--- via CnC-List]

I take a trash bag and push the opening onto the engine below the filter. When 
the filter is removed I just let the whole mess drop into the bag. I have a 
shop rag handy to wipe off any oil that escapes the bag. I have found that a 
large trash bag that is also thick works best and I take the first bag and drop 
it into another incase the first one gets a hole in it during the removal. I 
have done this for years, always works for me.

   Gary Kolc
   
"Liberty" 38' MK II


 Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  wrote: 
> I asked this same question about two years ago and tried both techniques. I
> found for myself that stuffing an absorbent pad around the filter was the
> best and least messy solution. I tried the bag trick twice but it actually
> made more of a mess because you just can't twist the filter very fast with
> the bag on, especially once the oil actually gets in the bag and lubricates
> the entire outside of the filter.
> 
> Just get the pad good and stuffed in at the base of the filter. It's the
> best way for me.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 5:49 AM Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> > The ziplock bag helps.  If you want to have less oil in the filter,
> > punching a hole in the top with a screwdriver before you drain the oil also
> > helps, but there will be something to wipe up in any case.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > > On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > One neat trick I learned at a diesel clinic is, slide a gallon zip lock
> > up around the filter & then unscrew it letting it drip into the bag, then
> > drop the filter into the bag and seal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Coleman
> > > C&C39
> > >
> > >
> > >  Original message 
> > > From: Indigo via CnC-List 
> > > Date: 10/31/2015 8:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > > Cc: Indigo 
> > > Subject: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf
> > >
> > > I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from this
> > amazing group on techniques used to change the oil filter while minimizing
> > drips and spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old filter off
> > without dripping oil down the side of the engine. What am I doing wrong?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jonathan
> > > Indigo C&C 35III
> > > SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List : The platform question

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Arrrg!!   I say we make 'im walk da plank!!  Arrrg!!!
On Oct 31, 2015 10:23 AM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Many emails can be set to thread view.  I use gmail in thread view.  Easy
> to follow a particular thread or to ignore it.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Janko Puls via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stu and everyone,
>>
>> Did you ever consider switching the list into a forum?
>>
>> I really enjoy reading this everyday, here is so much shared knowlegede
>> and enthusiasm, but it's a pain in the neck to actually read.
>> These are some problems with the actual list:
>> - When you clip everything off, it is hard to see what you exactly
>> answered.
>> - If you leave the whole thing on, it is simply undecipherable.
>> - If you try to search for someting, you get way too many double, triple
>> quintuple hits because of these copies.
>> - This list is the only recipient where I have to switch my email
>> formatting off, or can's include a picture.
>>
>> A forum could organize all thisd so much better
>> - You can follow the threads, expand or compress them to your hearts
>> content and stay on topic.
>> - You answer exactly what and where you want to answer.
>> - It builds a searchable archive all by itself.
>> - If you don't want to go on it every day, subscribe to a newletter
>> digest.
>> - You have a consistent layout which makes reading and searching so much
>> easier.
>> - It is even easy to see if there was a there already a thread, link ist,
>> add photos (just think wiring diagrams, sail plans, manuals etc.)
>>
>> Some samples:
>> http://www.cruisersforum.com/
>> http://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php
>>
>> from other vocations:
>> http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php
>> http://saabworld.net/forum.php
>>
>> I am aware that the text-only has an advantage when you are far out at
>> sea otr high up oin a mountain and everxy bit counts. But let's be honest,
>> most of us reading the list probably sit at home with a PC, Mac, tablet or
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[John Russo via CnC-List]

I have a 2GMF and use a small foil baking tin below the filter that can be
bent to shape around engine parts and drop the entire filter with oil into
the tin. Gets most of the oil and then just wipe up any spill with a blue
paper shop towel.

John
Arpeggio  

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: ahycr...@cox.net
Subject: Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

I take a trash bag and push the opening onto the engine below the filter.
When the filter is removed I just let the whole mess drop into the bag. I
have a shop rag handy to wipe off any oil that escapes the bag. I have found
that a large trash bag that is also thick works best and I take the first
bag and drop it into another incase the first one gets a hole in it during
the removal. I have done this for years, always works for me.

   Gary
Kolc
 
"Liberty" 38' MK II


 Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  wrote: 
> I asked this same question about two years ago and tried both 
> techniques. I found for myself that stuffing an absorbent pad around 
> the filter was the best and least messy solution. I tried the bag 
> trick twice but it actually made more of a mess because you just can't 
> twist the filter very fast with the bag on, especially once the oil 
> actually gets in the bag and lubricates the entire outside of the filter.
> 
> Just get the pad good and stuffed in at the base of the filter. It's 
> the best way for me.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 5:49 AM Tim Goodyear via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> > The ziplock bag helps.  If you want to have less oil in the filter, 
> > punching a hole in the top with a screwdriver before you drain the 
> > oil also helps, but there will be something to wipe up in any case.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > > On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > One neat trick I learned at a diesel clinic is, slide a gallon zip 
> > > lock
> > up around the filter & then unscrew it letting it drip into the bag, 
> > then drop the filter into the bag and seal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Coleman
> > > C&C39
> > >
> > >
> > >  Original message 
> > > From: Indigo via CnC-List 
> > > Date: 10/31/2015 8:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > > Cc: Indigo 
> > > Subject: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf
> > >
> > > I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from 
> > > this
> > amazing group on techniques used to change the oil filter while 
> > minimizing drips and spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old 
> > filter off without dripping oil down the side of the engine. What am I
doing wrong?
> > >
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> > > Indigo C&C 35III
> > > SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[jtsails via CnC-List]

I have a fool-proof solution, just swap that dirty old diesel for an A-4;-) 
You'll never have that problem again since the A-4 doesn't even have an oil 
filter!! Sorry guys, couldn't resist. I'll go flog myself now

James
Delaney
C&C 38 Mk2
Oriental, NC

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

I have a 2GMF and use a small foil baking tin below the filter that can be
bent to shape around engine parts and drop the entire filter with oil into
the tin. Gets most of the oil and then just wipe up any spill with a blue
paper shop towel.

John
Arpeggio

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Cc: ahycr...@cox.net
Subject: Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

I take a trash bag and push the opening onto the engine below the filter.
When the filter is removed I just let the whole mess drop into the bag. I
have a shop rag handy to wipe off any oil that escapes the bag. I have found
that a large trash bag that is also thick works best and I take the first
bag and drop it into another incase the first one gets a hole in it during
the removal. I have done this for years, always works for me.

  Gary
Kolc

"Liberty" 38' MK II


 Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  wrote:

I asked this same question about two years ago and tried both
techniques. I found for myself that stuffing an absorbent pad around
the filter was the best and least messy solution. I tried the bag
trick twice but it actually made more of a mess because you just can't
twist the filter very fast with the bag on, especially once the oil
actually gets in the bag and lubricates the entire outside of the filter.

Just get the pad good and stuffed in at the base of the filter. It's
the best way for me.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 5:49 AM Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The ziplock bag helps.  If you want to have less oil in the filter,
> punching a hole in the top with a screwdriver before you drain the
> oil also helps, but there will be something to wipe up in any case.
>
> Tim
>
> > On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > One neat trick I learned at a diesel clinic is, slide a gallon zip
> > lock
> up around the filter & then unscrew it letting it drip into the bag,
> then drop the filter into the bag and seal.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Coleman
> > C&C39
> >
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Indigo via CnC-List 
> > Date: 10/31/2015 8:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: Indigo 
> > Subject: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf
> >
> > I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from
> > this
> amazing group on techniques used to change the oil filter while
> minimizing drips and spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old
> filter off without dripping oil down the side of the engine. What am I

doing wrong?

> >
> > --
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> > Indigo C&C 35III
> > SOUTHPORT CT
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Stus-List C&C lister in Cuba Race

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The Pensacola to Havana Race started this morning.  One of our listers,
Steve Thorne on "Deja Vu", C&C 34+, is competing.  Follow him at:



Race website:  

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Re: Stus-List Boom Furling complications

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I spent about 10 boat bucks there having keel work done and at the end of the 
project I felt that I was taken advantage of and I would never do business with 
them again. Just my opinion.

   Gary K
   38' MK II
 dwight veinot via CnC-List  wrote: 
> who are the big guys...if it were me i would stay away from that so called
> fun if I had a choice
> 
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Harry Hallgring via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> > Jonathan,
> > Yes, NEB is fortunate to build and service vessels for the "major money
> > clients", but I can assure you for every Rambler there are a thousand
> > smaller boats just like ours that come through here for service or
> > storage.  One of the upsides to the yard is that we allow
> > customers/owners/captains/crew/sub-contractors to work on their boats.  And
> > as Andy said, it is fun to rub elbows with the big guys:)
> >
> > Harry Hallgring
> > hhallgr...@icloud.com
> >
> > On Oct 29, 2015, at 04:59 PM, Indigo via CnC-List 
> > wrote:
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> > I have heard some not so positive things about NEB. They look after many
> > "major money" clients - and the feeling was that unless you are in that
> > league, you get short changed.
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I would try puncturing the filter so the oil would drain down into the sump and 
then unscrew it with a shop towel or better yet with a cleaning serviette 
around the bottom. Then you wipe it clean. So far any of the proposed 
techniques worked for me.

Marek

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf


I take a trash bag and push the opening onto the engine below the filter. When 
the filter is removed I just let the whole mess drop into the bag. I have a 
shop rag handy to wipe off any oil that escapes the bag. I have found that a 
large trash bag that is also thick works best and I take the first bag and drop 
it into another incase the first one gets a hole in it during the removal. I 
have done this for years, always works for me.

   Gary Kolc
   
"Liberty" 38' MK II


 Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  wrote: 
> I asked this same question about two years ago and tried both techniques. I
> found for myself that stuffing an absorbent pad around the filter was the
> best and least messy solution. I tried the bag trick twice but it actually
> made more of a mess because you just can't twist the filter very fast with
> the bag on, especially once the oil actually gets in the bag and lubricates
> the entire outside of the filter.
> 
> Just get the pad good and stuffed in at the base of the filter. It's the
> best way for me.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 5:49 AM Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> > The ziplock bag helps.  If you want to have less oil in the filter,
> > punching a hole in the top with a screwdriver before you drain the oil also
> > helps, but there will be something to wipe up in any case.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > > On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > One neat trick I learned at a diesel clinic is, slide a gallon zip lock
> > up around the filter & then unscrew it letting it drip into the bag, then
> > drop the filter into the bag and seal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Coleman
> > > C&C39
> > >
> > >
> > >  Original message 
> > > From: Indigo via CnC-List 
> > > Date: 10/31/2015 8:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > > Cc: Indigo 
> > > Subject: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf
> > >
> > > I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from this
> > amazing group on techniques used to change the oil filter while minimizing
> > drips and spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old filter off
> > without dripping oil down the side of the engine. What am I doing wrong?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jonathan
> > > Indigo C&C 35III
> > > SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I change the filter the day (or week) after I change the oil, without
running the engine in between. It's cold and as empty as it's going to get.
I get slight drippage but nothing a piece of paper towel can't handle.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 31 October 2015 at 17:30, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I would try puncturing the filter so the oil would drain down into the
> sump and then unscrew it with a shop towel or better yet with a cleaning
> serviette around the bottom. Then you wipe it clean. So far any of the
> proposed techniques worked for me.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
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> *From: *ahycrace--- via CnC-List
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>
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc: *ahycr...@cox.net
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf
>
>
>
>
>
> I take a trash bag and push the opening onto the engine below the filter.
> When the filter is removed I just let the whole mess drop into the bag. I
> have a shop rag handy to wipe off any oil that escapes the bag. I have
> found that a large trash bag that is also thick works best and I take the
> first bag and drop it into another incase the first one gets a hole in it
> during the removal. I have done this for years, always works for me.
>
>
> Gary Kolc
>
> "Liberty" 38' MK II
>
>
>  Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  wrote:
> > I asked this same question about two years ago and tried both
> techniques. I
> > found for myself that stuffing an absorbent pad around the filter was the
> > best and least messy solution. I tried the bag trick twice but it
> actually
> > made more of a mess because you just can't twist the filter very fast
> with
> > the bag on, especially once the oil actually gets in the bag and
> lubricates
> > the entire outside of the filter.
> >
> > Just get the pad good and stuffed in at the base of the filter. It's the
> > best way for me.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 5:49 AM Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The ziplock bag helps.  If you want to have less oil in the filter,
> > > punching a hole in the top with a screwdriver before you drain the oil
> also
> > > helps, but there will be something to wipe up in any case.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > > On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> > > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One neat trick I learned at a diesel clinic is, slide a gallon zip
> lock
> > > up around the filter & then unscrew it letting it drip into the bag,
> then
> > > drop the filter into the bag and seal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill Coleman
> > > > C&C39
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Original message 
> > > > From: Indigo via CnC-List 
> > > > Date: 10/31/2015 8:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > > > Cc: Indigo 
> > > > Subject: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf
> > > >
> > > > I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from
> this
> > > amazing group on techniques used to change the oil filter while
> minimizing
> > > drips and spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old filter off
> > > without dripping oil down the side of the engine. What am I doing
> wrong?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jonathan
> > > > Indigo C&C 35III
> > > > SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[robert via CnC-List]

Jonathan:

Everyone does something differentevery Spring, I save some of the 
plastic shrinkwrap for at least two purposes.one, to cover the mast 
collar when the mast is unstepped in the Fall.


Second, is for an oil change in the Fall.I take a piece of the 
plastic shrinkwrap and place it (tape it) under the oil filter before 
the filter is unscrewed.the plastic is slightly folded and at the 
bottom of it I have a used plastic food container..as I unscrew the 
oil filter, the oil drains down the piece of plastic into the container 
and I drop the oil filter in the container followed by the plastic.I 
put some paper towel below the filter just in case I miss a few drops of 
oil.  I have now perfected this to the point where I have only but a few 
drops of oil on the side of the engine.


A friend punches a hole into the top of the oil filter with a small nail 
punch and and inserts the oil pump hose and sucks most of the oil out 
before unscrewing it. I don't go the extra step.no need to.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-10-31 9:16 AM, Indigo via CnC-List wrote:

I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from this amazing 
group on techniques used to change the oil filter while minimizing drips and 
spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old filter off without dripping oil 
down the side of the engine. What am I doing wrong?

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
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Stus-List The platform question

[robert via CnC-List]

Bill:

I think most on this list agree with youenough said!

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-10-31 10:14 AM, Bill Bina via CnC-List wrote:
This has been discussed at painful lengths and was settled long ago. A 
forum would break up this well established community and you would 
lose most of the brain-trust of long-time list members, who have been 
here CONTRIBUTING regularly for well over a decade. There are plenty 
of forums out there, if that is what you want. If you want the 
collective wisdom of all of the long-time regulars here, this is where 
you will find them. The website backs up the list with a permanent 
library of resources and articles pertaining to C&C


There is also a digest form of this list if that is your issue.

We don't need another 100 post thread about this. It has been 
discussed to death.


Bill Bina

On 10/31/2015 8:55 AM, Janko Puls via CnC-List wrote:

Hi Stu and everyone,

Did you ever consider switching the list into a forum?



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Re: Stus-List plumbing problem

[Terry Pearson via CnC-List]

Thank you guys so much. I do believe they are Jabsco check valves. On the 
Jabsco diagram they are referred to as “ports”. 

Terry Pearson
S/V Tiki Time
1986 C&C 33 MK2
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Terry,
> 
> Per your original email you are referring to the WHITE fittings NOT the grey 
> ones,  correct? 
> 
> The white ones came with the pump and are the suction and discharge check 
> valves.  See my previous emails.
> 
> As others have said the grey ones are Qest.  The largest selection can be 
> found here.
> 
> https://www.plumbingsupply.com/polyb.html 
> 
> You'll probably want to bookmark the website since you're likely to need 
> these fittings in the future.  When assembling don't use any sealants.  Hand 
> tighten and then add ~1/4 turn.
> 
> Josh
> 
> On Oct 30, 2015 9:05 PM, "Terry Pearson via CnC-List"  > wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Hello all, first, I own a 1986 C&C 33 MK2, while winterizing my boat, I 
>>> found a water leak on the discharge side of my potable water pump. The 
>>> fitting between the pump and the elbow was cracked. I tried to unscrew the 
>>> fitting and the theads snapped off in the pump housing. i haven’t tried 
>>> yet, but am pretty certain I can use an ease out to get the remaining 
>>> treads out of the pump. The problem I am having is I can not find the 
>>> replacement part, or even know what it is called. Its a a white plastic 
>>> fitting, male threads on both ends with a ball check valve built into the 
>>> fitting. any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
>>> Terry Pearson
> 
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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 117, Issue 125

[Janko Puls via CnC-List]

Hello list, Bill, and Dennis,
 

Thanks, Dennis, for this helpful and constructive advice. I'll try to organize this in thread view in gmail.

 

Bill, thanks for pointing this out. It was and is not my intention to step on any seasoned list veteran's toes. I just joined the list this summer and merely asked why this fantastic, knowledgable group clings to a seriously outdated technical approach which makes it IMHO hard to read and fickle to contribute when there are so many easier solutions around. I am well aware that this is the place where I find the collective C&C wisdom. That is why I am here (and a regular on the website). I hope to learn from you all and certainly want to contribute my part.

 

I can see why you are a bit crabby because you are tired of a debate of which I didn't know, and certainly have no interest in rekindling - I simply tried to contribute a thought.

 

I still fail to understand though why the contents - the brain trust of a group - would mandate an oudated techical approach. A break up? Seriously? Google, Facebook, pretty much anyone who offers a user interface online changes and (mostly) improves it permanently, I think that a interest in our topic, the C&C, could wheather that. Especially people who can tame a list. But enough of that. Hush.

 

Why would it offend anyone to ask the obvious? Maybe the archive can answer that rather than an active member. I am curious to learn about the advantages of a list over a forum. Since we winterized 'Messing About' today, I can chew now through some miles of redundant, unclipped material in the lis archives. I have done that before, and THAT is a painful experience.

 

Don't get me wrong, this list is a treasure trove. In my humble opinion it deserves technical improvement when it serves all members - and I think it's worth considering if you are interested in younger members - on the water and online.

 

Sorry for asking, no harm intended.

 

Best,

Janko

 

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Message: 2

Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:14:07 -0400
From: Bill Bina 

This has been discussed at painful lengths and was settled long ago. A
forum would break up this well established community and you would lose
most of the brain-trust of long-time list members, who have been here
CONTRIBUTING regularly for well over a decade. There are plenty of
forums out there, if that is what you want. If you want the collective
wisdom of all of the long-time regulars here, this is where you will
find them. The website backs up the list with a permanent library of
resources and articles pertaining to C&C

There is also a digest form of this list if that is your issue.

We don't need another 100 post thread about this. It has been discussed
to death.

Bill Bina

 


Message: 5
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:22:19 -0500
From: "Dennis C." 

Many emails can be set to thread view. I use gmail in thread view. Easy
to follow a particular thread or to ignore it.

Dennis C.

 




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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 117, Issue 125

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

A wise man says: there are two kinds of fools.  One says this is old and 
therefore good.  The other says this is new and therefore better...


I think a fair bit of the attitude here is of the why fix what works 
type thinking.  Are there newer, fancier, singing and dancing forums?  
Sure.  But if things moved would some people drop off? Probably.


And given that there are a few non C&C owners who are on this forum it 
must have some utility above and beyond the unique C&C questions.


Thanks Stu!  Great forum.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2015-10-31 10:14 PM, Janko Puls via CnC-List wrote:

Hello list, Bill, and Dennis,
Thanks, Dennis, for this helpful and constructive advice. I'll try to 
organize this in thread view in gmail.
Bill, thanks for pointing this out. It was and is not my intention to 
step on any seasoned list veteran's toes. I just joined the list this 
summer and merely asked why this fantastic, knowledgable group clings 
to a seriously outdated technical approach which makes it IMHO hard to 
read and fickle to contribute when there are so many easier solutions 
around. I am well aware that this is the place where I find the 
collective C&C wisdom. That is why I am here (and a regular on the 
website). I hope to learn from you all and certainly want to 
contribute my part.
I can see why you are a bit crabby because you are tired of a debate 
of which I didn't know, and certainly have no interest in rekindling - 
I simply tried to contribute a thought.
I still fail to understand though why the contents - the brain trust 
of a group - would mandate an oudated techical approach. A break up? 
Seriously? Google, Facebook, pretty much anyone who offers a user 
interface online changes and (mostly) improves it permanently, I think 
that a interest in our topic, the C&C, could wheather that. Especially 
people who can tame a list. But enough of that. Hush.
Why would it offend anyone to ask the obvious? Maybe the archive can 
answer that rather than an active member. I am curious to learn about 
the advantages of a list over a forum. Since we winterized 'Messing 
About' today, I can chew now through some miles of redundant, 
unclipped material in the lis archives. I have done that before, and 
THAT is a painful experience.
Don't get me wrong, this list is a treasure trove. In my humble 
opinion it deserves technical improvement when it serves all members - 
and I think it's worth considering if you are interested in younger 
members - on the water and online.

Sorry for asking, no harm intended.
Best,
Janko
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A photo book by Janko Puls.

+++ Photos, reviews and more at www.pointofviewnyc.com or 
www.facebook.com/pointofviewnyc +++

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:14:07 -0400
From: Bill Bina 

This has been discussed at painful lengths and was settled long ago. A
forum would break up this well established community and you would lose
most of the brain-trust of long-time list members, who have been here
CONTRIBUTING regularly for well over a decade. There are plenty of
forums out there, if that is what you want. If you want the collective
wisdom of all of the long-time regulars here, this is where you will
find them. The website backs up the list with a permanent library of
resources and articles pertaining to C&C

There is also a digest form of this list if that is your issue.

We don't need another 100 post thread about this. It has been discussed
to death.

Bill Bina

Message: 5
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:22:19 -0500
From: "Dennis C." 

Many emails can be set to thread view. I use gmail in thread view. Easy
to follow a particular thread or to ignore it.

Dennis C.



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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 117, Issue 125

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

No biggie, Janko.  This list has a lng history.  From a forum or
whatever on Sailnet to a Yahoo group to the list we have today.  We moved
from Sailnet when they went to a member fee site.  We tried the Yahoo group
thing but it never caught on.  We have found a warm cozy home on Stu's List
and here we are today.

One of the main reasons we use Stu's site is his wonderful support and our
control over the content and fees.  Having said that, Stu maintains this
incredible resource in large part by contributions from our listers.  All
who wish to continue this resource, please go to cncphotoalbum.com and
click the "Donate" link in the left side bar to help maintain it.  Thank
you.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Janko Puls via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello list, Bill, and Dennis,
>
> Thanks, Dennis, for this helpful and constructive advice. I'll try to
> organize this in thread view in gmail.
>
> Bill, thanks for pointing this out. It was and is not my intention to step
> on any seasoned list veteran's toes. I just joined the list this summer and
> merely asked why this fantastic, knowledgable group clings to a seriously
> outdated technical approach which makes it IMHO hard to read and fickle to
> contribute when there are so many easier solutions around. I am well aware
> that this is the place where I find the collective C&C wisdom. That is why
> I am here (and a regular on the website). I hope to learn from you all and
> certainly want to contribute my part.
>
> I can see why you are a bit crabby because you are tired of a debate of
> which I didn't know, and certainly have no interest in rekindling - I
> simply tried to contribute a thought.
>
> I still fail to understand though why the contents - the brain trust of a
> group - would mandate an oudated techical approach. A break up? Seriously?
> Google, Facebook, pretty much anyone who offers a user interface online
> changes and (mostly) improves it permanently, I think that a interest in
> our topic, the C&C, could wheather that. Especially people who can tame a
> list. But enough of that. Hush.
>
> Why would it offend anyone to ask the obvious? Maybe the archive can
> answer that rather than an active member. I am curious to learn about the
> advantages of a list over a forum. Since we winterized 'Messing About'
> today, I can chew now through some miles of redundant, unclipped material
> in the lis archives. I have done that before, and THAT is a painful
> experience.
>
> Don't get me wrong, this list is a treasure trove. In my humble opinion it
> deserves technical improvement when it serves all members - and I think
> it's worth considering if you are interested in younger members - on the
> water and online.
>
> Sorry for asking, no harm intended.
>
> Best,
> Janko
>
> --
> Point of View New York City: A Game of The City You THINK You Know
> A photo book by Janko Puls.
>
> +++ Photos, reviews and more at www.pointofviewnyc.com or
> www.facebook.com/pointofviewnyc +++
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:14:07 -0400
> From: Bill Bina 
>
> This has been discussed at painful lengths and was settled long ago. A
> forum would break up this well established community and you would lose
> most of the brain-trust of long-time list members, who have been here
> CONTRIBUTING regularly for well over a decade. There are plenty of
> forums out there, if that is what you want. If you want the collective
> wisdom of all of the long-time regulars here, this is where you will
> find them. The website backs up the list with a permanent library of
> resources and articles pertaining to C&C
>
> There is also a digest form of this list if that is your issue.
>
> We don't need another 100 post thread about this. It has been discussed
> to death.
>
> Bill Bina
>
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:22:19 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." 
>
> Many emails can be set to thread view. I use gmail in thread view. Easy
> to follow a particular thread or to ignore it.
>
> Dennis C.
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C lister in Cuba Race

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

Interesting to see how the 34+ corrected against much larger boats. Also
interesting that nearly every boat is a cruising boat. Would have suspected
more than just a couple of performance oriented boats.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 3:26 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> The Pensacola to Havana Race started this morning.  One of our listers,
> Steve Thorne on "Deja Vu", C&C 34+, is competing.  Follow him at:
>
> 
>
> Race website:  
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 117, Issue 125

[robert via CnC-List]

Janko said  "I still fail to understand though why the contents - the 
brain trust of a group - would mandate an oudated techical approach."


Answer.many of us like it the way it isthat's why we are 
here.change it, and many of us are gone.   So take advantage of 
"this fantastic, knowledgable group".


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-10-31 10:14 PM, Janko Puls via CnC-List wrote:

Hello list, Bill, and Dennis,
Thanks, Dennis, for this helpful and constructive advice. I'll try to 
organize this in thread view in gmail.
Bill, thanks for pointing this out. It was and is not my intention to 
step on any seasoned list veteran's toes. I just joined the list this 
summer and merely asked why this fantastic, knowledgable group clings 
to a seriously outdated technical approach which makes it IMHO hard to 
read and fickle to contribute when there are so many easier solutions 
around. I am well aware that this is the place where I find the 
collective C&C wisdom. That is why I am here (and a regular on the 
website). I hope to learn from you all and certainly want to 
contribute my part.
I can see why you are a bit crabby because you are tired of a debate 
of which I didn't know, and certainly have no interest in rekindling - 
I simply tried to contribute a thought.
I still fail to understand though why the contents - the brain trust 
of a group - would mandate an oudated techical approach. A break up? 
Seriously? Google, Facebook, pretty much anyone who offers a user 
interface online changes and (mostly) improves it permanently, I think 
that a interest in our topic, the C&C, could wheather that. Especially 
people who can tame a list. But enough of that. Hush.
Why would it offend anyone to ask the obvious? Maybe the archive can 
answer that rather than an active member. I am curious to learn about 
the advantages of a list over a forum. Since we winterized 'Messing 
About' today, I can chew now through some miles of redundant, 
unclipped material in the lis archives. I have done that before, and 
THAT is a painful experience.
Don't get me wrong, this list is a treasure trove. In my humble 
opinion it deserves technical improvement when it serves all members - 
and I think it's worth considering if you are interested in younger 
members - on the water and online.

Sorry for asking, no harm intended.
Best,
Janko
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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 117, Issue 125

[Janko Puls via CnC-List]

I certainly will. Thanks, Rob!

Cheers,

Janko
 

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Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Oktober 2015 um 22:23 Uhr
Von: robert 
An: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Janko Puls" 
Betreff: CnC-List Digest, Vol 117, Issue 125


Janko said  "I still fail to understand though why the contents - the brain trust of a group - would mandate an oudated techical approach."

Answer.many of us like it the way it isthat's why we are here.change it, and many of us are gone.   So take advantage of "this fantastic, knowledgable group".

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
 
On 2015-10-31 10:14 PM, Janko Puls via CnC-List wrote:



Hello list, Bill, and Dennis,
 

Thanks, Dennis, for this helpful and constructive advice. I'll try to organize this in thread view in gmail.

 

Bill, thanks for pointing this out. It was and is not my intention to step on any seasoned list veteran's toes. I just joined the list this summer and merely asked why this fantastic, knowledgable group clings to a seriously outdated technical approach which makes it IMHO hard to read and fickle to contribute when there are so many easier solutions around. I am well aware that this is the place where I find the collective C&C wisdom. That is why I am here (and a regular on the website). I hope to learn from you all and certainly want to contribute my part.

 

I can see why you are a bit crabby because you are tired of a debate of which I didn't know, and certainly have no interest in rekindling - I simply tried to contribute a thought.

 

I still fail to understand though why the contents - the brain trust of a group - would mandate an oudated techical approach. A break up? Seriously? Google, Facebook, pretty much anyone who offers a user interface online changes and (mostly) improves it permanently, I think that a interest in our topic, the C&C, could wheather that. Especially people who can tame a list. But enough of that. Hush.

 

Why would it offend anyone to ask the obvious? Maybe the archive can answer that rather than an active member. I am curious to learn about the advantages of a list over a forum. Since we winterized 'Messing About' today, I can chew now through some miles of redundant, unclipped material in the lis archives. I have done that before, and THAT is a painful experience.

 

Don't get me wrong, this list is a treasure trove. In my humble opinion it deserves technical improvement when it serves all members - and I think it's worth considering if you are interested in younger members - on the water and online.

 

Sorry for asking, no harm intended.

 

Best,

Janko

 

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A photo book by Janko Puls.








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Re: Stus-List Starting a new thread

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

Our boats hold up really well over time, so there's a lot of them out there
exchanging hands. I think it's worth pointing out that new owners are
finding these old boats. When those new owners search google for "C&C 33
mast step" they might find a useful thread about repairing mast steps on
the C&C archive. Or, they might find a thread titled "C&C 33 mast step"
that's really about new lifelines, or something unrelated. We're really
just doing _ourselves_ favours by keeping the archive searchable. It seems
that pointing this out is a matter of contention, I'm not clear why that
is.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto




On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 11:39 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> most of these guys apparently don't care about the subject line...so
> sending these instructions won't change things, just let them contribute to
> whatever about their boats and experiences and forget the subject line
> crap...just say all subjects C&C sailboat related stuff, we're all
> interested in everything sailboat related...that's the way I regard these
> emails, all related to sailing somehow, read them or not ...ok You can ban
> me from further communication the topics are getting pretty old
> anyway
>
>
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Stu via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Terry et al
>>
>> When replying to a message from your email program – leave the subject
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>>
>> If you are starting a new thread, send an email to the list with an
>> appropriate subject line.
>>
>> Yes, it will make searching the archives a lot simpler.
>>
>> Remember too, when replying to a message, to trim off the previous
>> messages.  There is no reason to send a 60k message when 10 would have done
>> it.
>>
>> Stu
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Re: Stus-List new thread or topic

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

Just send your new message to cnc-list@cnc-list.com.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto

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> Hi Terry,
>
> I'm lazy, so just hit "reply", delete unnecessary junk from the message
> body and change/edit the subject line.
> Hit "send"
>
> I did just that. :)
>
> Cheers, Russ
>
>
> At 11:55 AM 30/10/2015, you wrote:
>
>> I am new to this email forum thing and don't want to hijack the
>> discussion, but could someone tell me how to start a new topic?
>> Thank you
>>
>> Sent from my ...
>>
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Re: Stus-List C&C lister in Cuba Race

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Be careful when looking at the tracker data.  Click on the individual boat
and see when the last update is.  On the plot, you might see a slower
cruiser way ahead of a fast racer only to find the racer's last positional
data is hours old.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Kevin Driscoll 
wrote:

> Interesting to see how the 34+ corrected against much larger boats. Also
> interesting that nearly every boat is a cruising boat. Would have suspected
> more than just a couple of performance oriented boats.
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 3:26 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> The Pensacola to Havana Race started this morning.  One of our listers,
>> Steve Thorne on "Deja Vu", C&C 34+, is competing.  Follow him at:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Race website:  
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List C&C lister in Cuba Race

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

I was just talking about the entry list, but will keep that in mind when
looking at tracker. Would be very cool to finish a face in Cuba!

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 8:09 PM Dennis C.  wrote:

> Be careful when looking at the tracker data.  Click on the individual boat
> and see when the last update is.  On the plot, you might see a slower
> cruiser way ahead of a fast racer only to find the racer's last positional
> data is hours old.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Kevin Driscoll 
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting to see how the 34+ corrected against much larger boats. Also
>> interesting that nearly every boat is a cruising boat. Would have suspected
>> more than just a couple of performance oriented boats.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, 3:26 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Pensacola to Havana Race started this morning.  One of our listers,
>>> Steve Thorne on "Deja Vu", C&C 34+, is competing.  Follow him at:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Race website:  
>>>
>>> Dennis C.
>>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Rob,
Thanks for sharing this. This looks like a good idea.  I am planning to try 
this the next time I change the filter.
Marek


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 Original message 
From: robert via CnC-List 
Date: 2015-10-31  20:49  (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Changing oil filter Yanmar 3gmf

Jonathan:

Everyone does something differentevery Spring, I save some of the
plastic shrinkwrap for at least two purposes.one, to cover the mast
collar when the mast is unstepped in the Fall.

Second, is for an oil change in the Fall.I take a piece of the
plastic shrinkwrap and place it (tape it) under the oil filter before
the filter is unscrewed.the plastic is slightly folded and at the
bottom of it I have a used plastic food container..as I unscrew the
oil filter, the oil drains down the piece of plastic into the container
and I drop the oil filter in the container followed by the plastic.I
put some paper towel below the filter just in case I miss a few drops of
oil.  I have now perfected this to the point where I have only but a few
drops of oil on the side of the engine.

A friend punches a hole into the top of the oil filter with a small nail
punch and and inserts the oil pump hose and sucks most of the oil out
before unscrewing it. I don't go the extra step.no need to.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-10-31 9:16 AM, Indigo via CnC-List wrote:
> I will be winterizing indigo tomorrow. I am looking for help from this 
> amazing group on techniques used to change the oil filter while minimizing 
> drips and spills.  I don't seem to be able to get the old filter off without 
> dripping oil down the side of the engine. What am I doing wrong?
>
> --
> Jonathan
> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
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