Stus-List 30-1 PHRF Rating

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Listers- 

Just wondering how many of you 30-1 owners out there have ever received a PHRF 
certificate for your boat, and what your rating was. 

Looking at 
http://www.ussailing.org/wp-content/uploads/DARoot/Offshore/PHRF/2014%20PHRF%20Handicaps%20Data.pdf,
 the range is 168-186 with mode 174 and mean 174.64 (and median 177). But it's 
hard to know the particulars of all those boats that were rated e.g. how many 
had folding props. And there may be rating inconsistency between US Sailing 
regional sailing associations. 

The PHRF chairman of my regional sailing association gave my 30-1 base PHRF of 
186, and an adjusted PHRF of 180 (a -6 adjustment due to spinnaker max width 
>180% of J). AFAIK my boat is totally stock, including a fixed two-blade prop. 

Just wondering how my PHRF ratings compare to other 30-1s' PHRF ratings, and 
wondering about the particulars of the 30-1s that got rated. 

Thanks In Advance, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 
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Re: Stus-List Wiring windex light to running lights [C 34]

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

We’ve just got an anchor light up there at present and obviously we can’t run 
our anchor light while sailing. I thought about getting a tricolor, but 
honestly I am a little leery of other ships only being able to see one light at 
a time - it’s probably completely unfounded, but I feel like being able to see 
the bow light and stern light (if beam-on or aft) might make a difference. 
Obviously in heavy seas you might not see low-mounted running lights at all, so 
there the tricolor is obviously superior… 

-- 
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Re: Stus-List Whisker pole?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

The carbon is twice the price and would need protection from UV.  It better
be one hell of an improvement.

Josh
On May 19, 2016 3:48 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
wrote:

Josh,

I have an old line-control whisker pole on the Enterprise, which lives on
the deck. When we’ve raced with it, it took a couple of guys on the
foredeck to set up and some coordination with the jib trimmer to get the
end close to the clew of the sail while extending. I suppose a mast-mount
option would make it easier (having one end fixed) but it will still be a
lot of weight to work with when setting. If you have the funds (and we all
know you do), go with the carbon version, as someone suggested.

I don’t think I’ve ever tried to use the pole when cruising (usually all my
destinations are directly upwind when cruising - a Murphy’s Law thing).


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
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>
> On 5/19/2016 12:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24) for my C
> 37+.  I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option as well.  I would be
> poling out a 145% furling headsail and an asymmetric spinnaker.  Does
> anyone have any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh Muckley
> S /V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Wiring windex light to running lights [C 34]

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I planned to install a windex light and then one night realized that my
try-color was working wonderfully at lighting up the windex.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On May 19, 2016 10:33 PM, "Andrew Means via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Just bought a Davis Windex Light
> 
>  for
> evening/night sailing and was thinking I’d wire it up to the running lights
> circuit so it’s on when the running lights are on. Leaving aside the
> certain fun of getting a new wire up the mast without unstepping it, I’m
> trying to figure out the best way to wire it to the running lights circuit.
>
> I tried tracing the running lights wires, but the bow lights wire
> disappears up behind the switch panel and isn’t seen again until it comes
> out of the fiberglass in the anchor locker. Is there any place amidships
> where I would be able to access these wires? For the life of me I can’t
> find where they run…
>
> --
> Andrew Means
> S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I
> Seattle, WA
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Re: Stus-List Wiring windex light to running lights [C 34]

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Andrew — I added a Windex LED light as part of my recent mast rewire; rather 
than wiring it to the running lights, I’m putting it on the cockpit switch for 
the compass light.  Pretty easy to find.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On May 19, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Andrew Means via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just bought a Davis Windex Light 
> 
>  for evening/night sailing and was thinking I’d wire it up to the running 
> lights circuit so it’s on when the running lights are on. Leaving aside the 
> certain fun of getting a new wire up the mast without unstepping it, I’m 
> trying to figure out the best way to wire it to the running lights circuit.
> 
> I tried tracing the running lights wires, but the bow lights wire disappears 
> up behind the switch panel and isn’t seen again until it comes out of the 
> fiberglass in the anchor locker. Is there any place amidships where I would 
> be able to access these wires? For the life of me I can’t find where they 
> run… 
> 
> -- 
> Andrew Means
> S.V. Safari - 1977 C 34 Mk I
> Seattle, WA

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Stus-List Wiring windex light to running lights [C 34]

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

Just bought a Davis Windex Light for evening/night sailing and was thinking I’d 
wire it up to the running lights circuit so it’s on when the running lights are 
on. Leaving aside the certain fun of getting a new wire up the mast without 
unstepping it, I’m trying to figure out the best way to wire it to the running 
lights circuit.

I tried tracing the running lights wires, but the bow lights wire disappears up 
behind the switch panel and isn’t seen again until it comes out of the 
fiberglass in the anchor locker. Is there any place amidships where I would be 
able to access these wires? For the life of me I can’t find where they run… 

-- 
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Stus-List C 35-1 used mainsail for $200

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

If anyone is interested.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/575680375901638?view=permalink=79567241895

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
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Re: Stus-List Removing Polyglow

[Joseph Bognar via CnC-List]

That looks like a lot of work . I am not sure how badly oxidized your boat was 
. Wet sanding will clean up the gelcoat . It will also remove the original gel 
from the exterior opening it up I am sure . I have never had to wet sand any 
boat yet that was badly oxidized with the Aqua buff . I usually work in 6 ft 
sections and as soon as I have buffed the boat j apply the wax by hand . I move 
over and buff the next section and then wax. I'll move to a third section and 
wax . Then I'll go back with my buffer and a wool pad used just for wax and 
remove the dry wax and polish it at the same time . It has been a learning 
experience for me . But I would not do any thing else any more . I have 
converted more boaters than I could tell you about to this method . I am not 
knocking the poly glow . But I feel my end product is just as good . 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On May 19, 2016, at 9:55 AM, JP Mail via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I followed this regimen on our previous boat. Long, arduous, back breaking 
> work. But the results were amazing. 
> 
> 
> http://www.sailnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52772
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Some people like buffing and waxing. I don't. PoliGlow works just fine for 
>> me. 
>> 
>> http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_0863.jpg
>> 
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>> 
>>> On 18 May 2016 at 18:45, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> I really think that the answer lies in how bad your gel coat is.  If it us 
>>> a dark or colored hull that is chalked then you will probably like the 
>>> results of polyglow.  If its a white hull that has been maintained or is 
>>> new enough that it hasn't chalked then buffing and waxing will keep it 
>>> looking good.
>>> 
>>> I buff and wax.  Almost 30 years old.  Take a look at the results.
>>> 
>>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yRHJmRThKbl9aN0U
>>> 
>>> Josh Muckley
>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>> 1989 C 37+
>>> Solomons, MD 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, May 18, 2016, 5:25 PM ahycrace--- via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 So bottom line is poly Glow good or not so much?  Friend of mine has a 
 badly chalked Santana and received for free an almost full kit of Polyglow 
 he asked me if it was worth using.
 
 Gary Kolc
  Joseph Bognar via CnC-List  wrote:
 > I found that if your fenders rub the hull in the same spot . It will 
 > wear the Polyglow off.
 >
 > Sent from Joe Bognar
 >
 >
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Re: Stus-List Removing Polyglow

[schiller via CnC-List]

I still use Aurora Boat Shine and really like the results that I get (in 
fresh water).  Water still beads up at the end of the season, winter 
storage streaks wash off well with Aurora boat clean and/or boat scrub.  
Any really tough areas I use Aurora Black Streak Remover.  Started using 
the Aurora products when Richard Kittar was active on the list.


I also liked the Aurora Burma Teak Oil but they quit making it and I am 
just about out.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
Launch date 31 May, leave for White Lake, Michigan 3 June

On 5/18/2016 11:51 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List wrote:
Some people /like/ buffing and waxing. I don't. PoliGlow works just 
fine for me.


http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_0863.jpg

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 18 May 2016 at 18:45, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> wrote:


I really think that the answer lies in how bad your gel coat is. 
If it us a dark or colored hull that is chalked then you will

probably like the results of polyglow.  If its a white hull that
has been maintained or is new enough that it hasn't chalked then
buffing and waxing will keep it looking good.

I buff and wax.  Almost 30 years old.  Take a look at the results.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yRHJmRThKbl9aN0U

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Wed, May 18, 2016, 5:25 PM ahycrace--- via CnC-List
> wrote:

So bottom line is poly Glow good or not so much? Friend of
mine has a badly chalked Santana and received for free an
almost full kit of Polyglow he asked me if it was worth using.

Gary Kolc
 Joseph Bognar via CnC-List > wrote:
> I found that if your fenders rub the hull in the same spot .
It will wear the Polyglow off.
>
> Sent from Joe Bognar
>
>
> >

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Re: Stus-List Whisker Pole

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

+1 on the Forespar control Line whisker pole. The telescopic feature is 
great to accommodate dip pole gybes and facilitate the general handling. 
We use it all the time, my 105 lbs / 15 year old son is a master at it.. 
We've had it out in 15-19 knot winds, my son has very little trouble 
handling it even in those conditions as long as I'm smooth at the helm / 
act quickly with the sheets. 

We don't use a lift and only use a guy to keep it from lifting if the 
winds are above 12 knots or so 

Ours is smaller than what you would use but it's still big and heavy yet 
once you know how to handle it, it's pretty easy to handle.. 

Here are a few tricks: 

Install a mounting ring on lifeline stanchion to secure the fore end  / 
attach the aft end to the mast car prior to leaving (See pictures on 
Flickr). This way you never have to lift more than half the weight.. 
That's how we avoid a lift and the complexities thereof

To make it easier to extend.. Once it's made, run pretty much dead 
downwind / let the sheet loose to where the pole is near the forestay then 
extend. At that point there's hardly any compression on it, making it 
pretty easy. 

To gybe: Rotate the boat slowly, as it gets DDD collapse the pole, dip it 
down past the forestay, quickly extend it while it's near the forestay on 
the other side, secure control line, crank the sheet. With a little 
practice it's really not that hard. 

We don't normally furl but it's a great "Bail-out" option. When ever 
there's trouble: Loosen sheets (Not too much to avoid the pole striking 
the forestay), collapse the pole, and furl. 

In a pinch if you can furl the genoa a bit you can let the pole go near 
the forestay and use it on a reach like a symmetric spin. It's not ideal 
but if you only need to be on a reach for a short period it keeps things 
simple 

We stow it on deck using a Forespar stanchion mount for the aft end / a 
ring on the other. I considered the mast mount but decided against it 
because of cost / complexity / windage / center of gravity and using the 
techniques mentioned above, you only need to support half the weight 
anyway.  Check out my flickr to see my mounts :  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/133565480@N04/with/21980567419/



Good Luck with it.

-Francois
1990 34+ "Take Five"
lake Lanier, GA



From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
To: C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Sent: Thu, May 19, 2016 12:40 pm
Subject: Stus-List Whisker pole?



I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24) for my C 
37+.  I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option as well.  I would be 
poling out a 145% furling headsail and an asymmetric spinnaker.  Does 
anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks,
Josh Muckley
S /V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD 


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Re: Stus-List Whisker pole?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Josh,

I have an old line-control whisker pole on the Enterprise, which lives on the 
deck. When we’ve raced with it, it took a couple of guys on the foredeck to set 
up and some coordination with the jib trimmer to get the end close to the clew 
of the sail while extending. I suppose a mast-mount option would make it easier 
(having one end fixed) but it will still be a lot of weight to work with when 
setting. If you have the funds (and we all know you do), go with the carbon 
version, as someone suggested. 

I don’t think I’ve ever tried to use the pole when cruising (usually all my 
destinations are directly upwind when cruising - a Murphy’s Law thing). 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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>> 
>> 
>> On 5/19/2016 12:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
>>> I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24) for my C 
>>> 37+.  I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option as well.  I would be 
>>> poling out a 145% furling headsail and an asymmetric spinnaker.  Does 
>>> anyone have any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Josh Muckley
>>> S /V Sea Hawk
>>> 1989 C 37+
>>> Solomons, MD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Whisker pole?

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

Josh,

Yes, mine is a Forespar line control 12-22.  I use just a topping lift, 
what I find happening is that any load on the sheet and the upward load 
of the topping lift causes the pole to flex. I think the joint at the 
middle, just a plastic ring at the end of the non-moving tube, gets a 
little bound up and it takes a lot force on the extension line to get it 
fully out.  I have tried furling, or sometimes going dead downwind with 
the sail collapsed.  If the pole is fully extended first, and you pull 
on the sheet to unfurl the sail, the pole will swing back until it hits 
the lowers, so someone has to push if forward to get the pole end up to 
the sail.  None of this is really a problem, just things to do when you 
set or gybe the pole.


Neil


On 5/19/2016 3:00 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:


As for the asym, yes, same as the 145%.  The asym dies as it gets 
hidden by the mainsail so poling out can help. Forespar sells one 
called the tri-reacher.  I was considering it but you have to pre-set 
the pole length instead of being able to set the length on the fly 
with a control line.


Neil,

Is yours a line control model by forespar?  What makes it hard to 
extend?   The YouTube video by Forespar shows extending the pole while 
the sail is still furled.   They even state that jibes are best when 
you furl the headsail, unclip the outboard end, dip the pole, reclip, 
and finally unfurl on your new tack.


Do you have topping lift and down haul?  What about fore and aft guy 
lines?  Any problems or complications?  I initially imagined a system 
where I could simply set the pole height at the mast, clip on the 
working sheet of an unfurled headsail and then extended the pole with 
the control line. Most, if not all, of this could be accomplished at 
the mast.  I can see how a topping lift would be helpful since during 
the jibes nothing else is available to support the sail.  I can also 
see how a topping lift would help keep a full shape instead of 
weighing down the clew.


Thanks,
Josh

On May 19, 2016 1:09 PM, "Neil Gallagher via CnC-List" 
> wrote:


I got one for my 35-1 with a 145%, and am really happy with it. 
Best thing for cruising, especially light air (ie, Long Island

Sound), not to mention an essential item for non-spinnaker
racing.  I didn't go for the mast-mount, and it  can be a bear to
get the pole set.  Once you've clipped in the outboard end it
takes a strong person at the mast to extend, plus good
coordination with the sheets. If you don't mind the windage I
think the mast mount would be great for cruising.

Not sure about the asym, would you use it to windward as with the
genoa, or to leeward?

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 5/19/2016 12:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:


I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24)
for my C 37+.  I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option
as well.  I would be poling out a 145% furling headsail and an
asymmetric spinnaker.  Does anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks,

Josh Muckley
S /V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



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Re: Stus-List Whisker pole?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

As for the asym, yes, same as the 145%.  The asym dies as it gets hidden by
the mainsail so poling out can help.  Forespar sells one called the
tri-reacher.  I was considering it but you have to pre-set the pole length
instead of being able to set the length on the fly with a control line.

Neil,

Is yours a line control model by forespar?  What makes it hard to extend?
The YouTube video by Forespar shows extending the pole while the sail is
still furled.   They even state that jibes are best when you furl the
headsail, unclip the outboard end, dip the pole, reclip, and finally unfurl
on your new tack.

Do you have topping lift and down haul?  What about fore and aft guy
lines?  Any problems or complications?  I initially imagined a system where
I could simply set the pole height at the mast, clip on the working sheet
of an unfurled headsail and then extended the pole with the control line.
Most, if not all, of this could be accomplished at the mast.  I can see how
a topping lift would be helpful since during the jibes nothing else is
available to support the sail.  I can also see how a topping lift would
help keep a full shape instead of weighing down the clew.

Thanks,
Josh
On May 19, 2016 1:09 PM, "Neil Gallagher via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I got one for my 35-1 with a 145%, and am really happy with it.  Best
> thing for cruising, especially light air (ie, Long Island Sound), not to
> mention an essential item for non-spinnaker racing.  I didn't go for the
> mast-mount, and it  can be a bear to get the pole set.  Once you've clipped
> in the outboard end it takes a strong person at the mast to extend, plus
> good coordination with the sheets. If you don't mind the windage I think
> the mast mount would be great for cruising.
>
> Not sure about the asym, would you use it to windward as with the genoa,
> or to leeward?
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
>
> On 5/19/2016 12:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24) for my C
> 37+.  I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option as well.  I would be
> poling out a 145% furling headsail and an asymmetric spinnaker.  Does
> anyone have any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh Muckley
> S /V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Whisker pole?

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

I have a similar pole from Forte, not Forespar, with line control. I chose it 
instead of Forespar (many years ago) because it cost less (but still at least a 
boat buck, the surface was not as slippery (you can see/feel the carbon fibers) 
and they made one of the tubes for it match the same diameter as an aluminum 
pole of the same length. (One of the tubes was a stock tube but the other was 
custom made.) Plus, I thought the way they 'wound the carbon fiber on a very 
fancy 'mandrell' (picture in their literature) would make the pole pretty 
strong.

Forespar might do the same thing but either they would not make a custom tume 
for me or the cost was too much--don't remember which. In any event, the pole 
is still going strong. I do keep it below, however, out of the NC sun.

The line control works fine also, as long as there is NO pressure on it. If 
there is, forgetaboutit!

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C 36 XL/kcb
 
cenel...@aol.com

 
 
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To: C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Sent: Thu, May 19, 2016 12:40 pm
Subject: Stus-List Whisker pole?



I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24) for my C 37+. 
 I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option as well.  I would be poling 
out a 145% furling headsail and an asymmetric spinnaker.  Does anyone have any 
thoughts?
Thanks,
Josh Muckley
S /V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD 

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Re: Stus-List Whisker pole?

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Josh,

I have the carbon fiber Forespar line control whisker pole for my C 39TM.
We had it overbuilt by Forespar so that we can use it a spinnaker pole for
the asymmetrical spinnakers as well as the symmetrical spinnakers. The
thing works perfectly, but is heavy as heck and you must keep it covered or
the UV we eat it alive. However, it is great piece of equipment to have on
board and if built properly can be a useful sailing tool

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY
C 39TM - US12788
Savannah, GA

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Josh,
>
> I’d suggest waiting till you can get the carbon spinnaker pole.  It will
> make all the difference in how often you use it.  It will take the
> compression load to crank the Asym around to allow you to sail deeper, and
> maybe line up better with the waves, a good offshore trick.  Any two-part
> adjustable pole will be heavy and much harder to manage.  A good rigger can
> help with the track cars and clamp to keep the rattling and banging to a
> min.
>
> 2 cents, Lee
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I got one for my 35-1 with a 145%, and am really happy with it.  Best
> thing for cruising, especially light air (ie, Long Island Sound), not to
> mention an essential item for non-spinnaker racing.  I didn't go for the
> mast-mount, and it  can be a bear to get the pole set.  Once you've clipped
> in the outboard end it takes a strong person at the mast to extend, plus
> good coordination with the sheets. If you don't mind the windage I think
> the mast mount would be great for cruising.
>
> Not sure about the asym, would you use it to windward as with the genoa,
> or to leeward?
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
>
> On 5/19/2016 12:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24) for my C
> 37+.  I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option as well.  I would be
> poling out a 145% furling headsail and an asymmetric spinnaker.  Does
> anyone have any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh Muckley
> S /V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Whisker pole?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

The pole is essential for running wing and wing if there's any kind of
chop. I wouldn't be without one during a cruise.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I got one for my 35-1 with a 145%, and am really happy with it.  Best
> thing for cruising, especially light air (ie, Long Island Sound), not to
> mention an essential item for non-spinnaker racing.  I didn't go for the
> mast-mount, and it  can be a bear to get the pole set.  Once you've clipped
> in the outboard end it takes a strong person at the mast to extend, plus
> good coordination with the sheets. If you don't mind the windage I think
> the mast mount would be great for cruising.
>
> Not sure about the asym, would you use it to windward as with the genoa,
> or to leeward?
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
>
> On 5/19/2016 12:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24) for my C
> 37+.  I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option as well.  I would be
> poling out a 145% furling headsail and an asymmetric spinnaker.  Does
> anyone have any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh Muckley
> S /V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Whisker pole?

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

Hi Josh,

I’d suggest waiting till you can get the carbon spinnaker pole.  It will make 
all the difference in how often you use it.  It will take the compression load 
to crank the Asym around to allow you to sail deeper, and maybe line up better 
with the waves, a good offshore trick.  Any two-part adjustable pole will be 
heavy and much harder to manage.  A good rigger can help with the track cars 
and clamp to keep the rattling and banging to a min. 

2 cents, Lee 
  


On May 19, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
 wrote:

> I got one for my 35-1 with a 145%, and am really happy with it.  Best thing 
> for cruising, especially light air (ie, Long Island Sound), not to mention an 
> essential item for non-spinnaker racing.  I didn't go for the mast-mount, and 
> it  can be a bear to get the pole set.  Once you've clipped in the outboard 
> end it takes a strong person at the mast to extend, plus good coordination 
> with the sheets. If you don't mind the windage I think the mast mount would 
> be great for cruising.
> 
> Not sure about the asym, would you use it to windward as with the genoa, or 
> to leeward?
> 
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
> 
> 
> On 5/19/2016 12:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
>> I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24) for my C 
>> 37+.  I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option as well.  I would be 
>> poling out a 145% furling headsail and an asymmetric spinnaker.  Does anyone 
>> have any thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S /V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Whisker pole?

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

I got one for my 35-1 with a 145%, and am really happy with it. Best 
thing for cruising, especially light air (ie, Long Island Sound), not to 
mention an essential item for non-spinnaker racing. I didn't go for the 
mast-mount, and it  can be a bear to get the pole set.  Once you've 
clipped in the outboard end it takes a strong person at the mast to 
extend, plus good coordination with the sheets. If you don't mind the 
windage I think the mast mount would be great for cruising.


Not sure about the asym, would you use it to windward as with the genoa, 
or to leeward?


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 5/19/2016 12:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:


I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24) for my 
C 37+.  I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option as well.  I 
would be poling out a 145% furling headsail and an asymmetric 
spinnaker.  Does anyone have any thoughts?


Thanks,

Josh Muckley
S /V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



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Stus-List Whisker pole?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I'm considering a Forespar Line Control whisker pole (LC 13-24) for my C
37+.  I'd like to use the mast mounted storage option as well.  I would be
poling out a 145% furling headsail and an asymmetric spinnaker.  Does
anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks,

Josh Muckley
S /V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
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Re: Stus-List Removing Polyglow

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Having used Poliglow for a number of years, I would support using it. The
major task is to get all the old stuff off the boat, wax, dirt, etc. The
PoliPrep should be used to make sure the surface is not full of blemishes or
oxidation. It should be an even, dull finish if it had been badly oxidized.
Then the coats (generally six to eight - they go on as fast as you can walk
around the boat - and they look crappy for the first three or four, then
start to shine) will make it look better. 

Gary

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Removing Polyglow

So bottom line is poly Glow good or not so much?  Friend of mine has a badly
chalked Santana and received for free an almost full kit of Polyglow he
asked me if it was worth using.

Gary Kolc
 Joseph Bognar via CnC-List  wrote: 
> I found that if your fenders rub the hull in the same spot . It will wear
the Polyglow off. 
> 
> Sent from Joe Bognar
> 
> 
> >

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Re: Stus-List Removing Polyglow

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

I followed this regimen on our previous boat. Long, arduous, back breaking 
work. But the results were amazing. 


http://www.sailnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52772



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> On May 18, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Some people like buffing and waxing. I don't. PoliGlow works just fine for 
> me. 
> 
> http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_0863.jpg
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
>> On 18 May 2016 at 18:45, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> I really think that the answer lies in how bad your gel coat is.  If it us a 
>> dark or colored hull that is chalked then you will probably like the results 
>> of polyglow.  If its a white hull that has been maintained or is new enough 
>> that it hasn't chalked then buffing and waxing will keep it looking good.
>> 
>> I buff and wax.  Almost 30 years old.  Take a look at the results.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yRHJmRThKbl9aN0U
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, May 18, 2016, 5:25 PM ahycrace--- via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> So bottom line is poly Glow good or not so much?  Friend of mine has a 
>>> badly chalked Santana and received for free an almost full kit of Polyglow 
>>> he asked me if it was worth using.
>>> 
>>> Gary Kolc
>>>  Joseph Bognar via CnC-List  wrote:
>>> > I found that if your fenders rub the hull in the same spot . It will wear 
>>> > the Polyglow off.
>>> >
>>> > Sent from Joe Bognar
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> 
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