Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

[Nauset Beach via CnC-List]

APS has some that might work:  

 

http://www.apsltd.com/cleat-chocks-pair.html 

 

 

Or maybe with the strong dollar they are less $ if sourced from the UK: 

 

http://www.yachtingsolutions.co.uk/cleat-boot-cleat-cover-2-pack.ir?cName=bo
at-classes-squib-accessories 

 

Brian

 

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Brass via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 9:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Stus-List Cleat covers

 

Has anyone had successful experience using these on a 70s vintage C&C?

 

http://www.solvingideas.com/Cleat_Info.html

 

The recent discussion about attaching sheets ( and getting them hung up on
the baby stay) reminded me about the times my sheets have gotten snagged by
the cleats on the cabin top near the mast. So I thought I would give myself
a set of cleat covers for Christmas.

 

But the cleats on Imzadi (original 8" cleats) look suspiciously like the
ones shown that are not compatible with the covers. 

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

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Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

I even get sheets caught on the forward hatch sometimes. Maybe add a sexy 
looking fairing? 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

 Nauset Beach via CnC-List  wrote: 
APS has some that might work:  

 

http://www.apsltd.com/cleat-chocks-pair.html 

 

 

Or maybe with the strong dollar they are less $ if sourced from the UK: 

 

http://www.yachtingsolutions.co.uk/cleat-boot-cleat-cover-2-pack.ir?cName=bo
at-classes-squib-accessories 

 

Brian

 

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Brass via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 9:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Stus-List Cleat covers

 

Has anyone had successful experience using these on a 70s vintage C&C?

 

http://www.solvingideas.com/Cleat_Info.html

 

The recent discussion about attaching sheets ( and getting them hung up on
the baby stay) reminded me about the times my sheets have gotten snagged by
the cleats on the cabin top near the mast. So I thought I would give myself
a set of cleat covers for Christmas.

 

But the cleats on Imzadi (original 8" cleats) look suspiciously like the
ones shown that are not compatible with the covers. 

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 



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Stus-List sheets snagging

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Steve

We put a short length of line under the lip around our head hatch to prevent 
our lines from snagging.  This trick was passed to us from friends with a C&C 
99.  It works (more or less).  If you are not using the foredeck hatch wile 
sailing it may work there as well

Mike
Persistence
Freezing in Halifax

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:32 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Steve Thomas
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

I even get sheets caught on the forward hatch sometimes. Maybe add a sexy 
looking fairing? 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

 Nauset Beach via CnC-List  wrote: 
APS has some that might work:  

 

http://www.apsltd.com/cleat-chocks-pair.html 

 

 

Or maybe with the strong dollar they are less $ if sourced from the UK: 

 

http://www.yachtingsolutions.co.uk/cleat-boot-cleat-cover-2-pack.ir?cName=bo
at-classes-squib-accessories 

 

Brian

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 9:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Stus-List Cleat covers

 

Has anyone had successful experience using these on a 70s vintage C&C?

 

http://www.solvingideas.com/Cleat_Info.html

 

The recent discussion about attaching sheets ( and getting them hung up on the 
baby stay) reminded me about the times my sheets have gotten snagged by the 
cleats on the cabin top near the mast. So I thought I would give myself a set 
of cleat covers for Christmas.

 

But the cleats on Imzadi (original 8" cleats) look suspiciously like the ones 
shown that are not compatible with the covers. 

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 



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Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

Get the adjustable ones fro APSLTD--held under cleat with bungee cords and easy 
on and off-~ $35/pair.


Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb



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-Original Message-
From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2016 9:10 pm
Subject: Stus-List Cleat covers



Has anyone had successful experience using these on a 70s vintage C&C?
 
http://www.solvingideas.com/Cleat_Info.html
 
The recent discussion about attaching sheets ( and getting them hung up on the 
baby stay) reminded me about the times my sheets have gotten snagged by the 
cleats on the cabin top near the mast. So I thought I would give myself a set 
of cleat covers for Christmas.
 
But the cleats on Imzadi (original 8” cleats) look suspiciously like the ones 
shown that are not compatible with the covers. 
 
Rick Brass
Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2
la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1
Washington, NC
 

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Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

My winterizing consists of plugging in the "flying saucer" heater, the
Caframo Stor-Dry.

No problems in decades of doing that.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 14 December 2016 at 14:26, Nate Flesness via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I usually just pull the thermostat in the Fall as part of winterizing -
> means the antifreeze circulates right away.
> Raw water cooled in freshwater, so its a good time to pull the leaves and
> pine needles out of it anyway...I keep thinking i'll install a filter
>
> Nate
> Sarah Jean
> 1980 30-1
> on the hard by the St. Croix River, WI
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Michael Brown via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> The pink RV style antifreeze does freeze solid though it is suppose to
>> not expand enough
>> to break copper pipes at least down to the rated temperature. It may
>> break plastic before
>> the rated temperature.
>>
>> Michael Brown
>> Windburn
>> C&C 30-1
>>
>>
>> From: RANDY 
>>
>> Thanks Rick, that's a relief to hear. I've been worried that I didn't let
>> my A4 warm up enough to open the thermostat before sucking anti-freeze
>> through it. I did run about five gallons of fresh water through it before
>> two gallons of pink anti-freeze, and I did confirm pink anti-freeze was
>> coming out the exhaust before shutting it down. Will find out next spring
>> whether my winterizing was good enough, and will be more thorough next
>> fall. Meanwhile it's too late now - we've already had a sub-zero night, and
>> the lake is iced over enough to hold my stupid dogs up on the ice.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Randy Stafford
>> S/V Grenadine
>> C&C 30-1 #7
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then laying in LOTS of rum for the 
winter…   :^)

Nice storm coming today/tonight; snow starts before rush hour, with several 
inches forecast overnight; then temps drop to a low on Saturday of -24F, with 
winds gusting over 20…  Sunday the temps get back up to about -5F…   I might 
need more rum...

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Dec 16, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> My winterizing consists of plugging in the "flying saucer" heater, the 
> Caframo Stor-Dry. 
> 
> No problems in decades of doing that. 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC

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Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

We got down to 25 degrees with a ton of wind. Cabin heat is set on about 50 
degrees on the 500 watt setting and the lowest cabin temp I saw was 38. I can 
click here and see my cabin temps from work or my phone:
http://aprs.fi/info/a/N3HGB-5

One of these days I am going to get shore power voltage telemetry on there. 
Temps are supposed to be in the mid 50s at least by Sunday, so I can go mess 
around with my pond-pump deicer scheme and get the dinghy around to my ramp and 
take it home.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I




From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 13:07
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then laying in LOTS of rum for the 
winter…   :^)

Nice storm coming today/tonight; snow starts before rush hour, with several 
inches forecast overnight; then temps drop to a low on Saturday of -24F, with 
winds gusting over 20…  Sunday the temps get back up to about -5F…   I might 
need more rum...

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Dec 16, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

My winterizing consists of plugging in the "flying saucer" heater, the Caframo 
Stor-Dry.
No problems in decades of doing that.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

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Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

24 below!!!I'm not so sure I want to visit my wife's folks in MPLS afterall 
this winter.Do you have to heat your words up on a frying pan to hear each 
other talk???Can't get the docklines out of the cockpit now; they're 
frozen.RonWild Cheri CYC 30-1In STL at a nice 32 with 15 above for sunday's 
high.


  From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
 Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing
   
Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then laying in LOTS of rum for the 
winter…   :^)
Nice storm coming today/tonight; snow starts before rush hour, with several 
inches forecast overnight; then temps drop to a low on Saturday of -24F, with 
winds gusting over 20…  Sunday the temps get back up to about -5F…   I might 
need more rum...

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Dec 16, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
wrote:
My winterizing consists of plugging in the "flying saucer" heater, the Caframo 
Stor-Dry. 

No problems in decades of doing that. 

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


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Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

-24F is only… oh, wait… -31C.  Okay, so maybe not better for the Canadians.

Maybe the cold will be gone by the time you visit.  Or maybe not.  Bring warm 
clothes.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Dec 16, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 24 below!!!
> I'm not so sure I want to visit my wife's folks in MPLS afterall this winter.
> Do you have to heat your words up on a frying pan to hear each other talk???
> Can't get the docklines out of the cockpit now; they're frozen.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri 
> CYC 30-1
> In STL at a nice 32 with 15 above for sunday's high.

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Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

[Paul E via CnC-List]

These look like the armpit pads for crutches.  You can get them for cheap on 
Amazon in all types and sizes.  

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=pad+for+crutches&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=74799218443&hvpos=1t1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4792383117181230537&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011582&hvtargid=kwd-613839835&ref=pd_sl_1zor4oukfo_b
 




-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Dec 16, 2016, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 21:09:56 -0500
> From: "Rick Brass" mailto:rickbr...@earthlink.net>>
> To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List Cleat covers
> Message-ID: <01d25741$7f9d1f20$7ed75d60$@earthlink.net 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Has anyone had successful experience using these on a 70s vintage C&C?
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.solvingideas.com/Cleat_Info.html 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The recent discussion about attaching sheets ( and getting them hung up on
> the baby stay) reminded me about the times my sheets have gotten snagged by
> the cleats on the cabin top near the mast. So I thought I would give myself
> a set of cleat covers for Christmas.
> 
> 
> 
> But the cleats on Imzadi (original 8" cleats) look suspiciously like the
> ones shown that are not compatible with the covers. 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Brass
> 
> Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2
> 
> la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1
> 
> Washington, NC

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Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

This sounds like a really good DIY project.  Not much on the Web other than
the couple of products posted (I like the apsltd cleat cover best).  So
here's one idea.

The goal is to make something that lifts a line over the cleat keeping it
from going under the horn(s).  So a vertical sided thingie won't really
work.  What is needed is an angle, like the apsltd cover.

Here's an idea.  Measure the cleat and make two trapezoids from wood or
StarBoard.  Place one on either side of the cleat.  They could be held in
place with some bungee through holes or machine screws with cap nuts.  From
the side they would look like this:
  ___
 /  \
   /_\

You could use a router to round all the edges.

OK, that's Prototype CC Ver. 1.0.  Improvements???

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

You’ve done it again Dennis,

Now you are going to have another thousand emails hashing out the suddle angle 
differences, line wear patterns, and attachment methods. Might need a 
political/ technical committee, and Cad drawings for Christmas list projects.  
There will be reports of competitive varnishing, and with a new 
naming/copyright/branding group, the intellectual property lawyers will try to 
put their valley girls through college.  Yea, probably even a photo contest and 
yet another C&C meme. 

I came in to late to know how that foredeck weather cow got it’s start, but 
this time I’m documenting just who started this prototype version!
Probably want to switch to digest mode. . .

Ha, Lee
Cold Scrooge in Seattle 


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> This sounds like a really good DIY project.  Not much on the Web other than 
> the couple of products posted (I like the apsltd cleat cover best).  So 
> here's one idea.
> 
> The goal is to make something that lifts a line over the cleat keeping it 
> from going under the horn(s).  So a vertical sided thingie won't really work. 
>  What is needed is an angle, like the apsltd cover.
> 
> Here's an idea.  Measure the cleat and make two trapezoids from wood or 
> StarBoard.  Place one on either side of the cleat.  They could be held in 
> place with some bungee through holes or machine screws with cap nuts.  From 
> the side they would look like this:
>   ___
>  /  \
>/_\
> 
> You could use a router to round all the edges.
> 
> OK, that's Prototype CC Ver. 1.0.  Improvements???
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Been using those for a few yrs.
Jim
Galaxy 34
Brielle nj




Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
Date: 12/16/16 11:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

Get the adjustable ones fro APSLTD--held under cleat with bungee cords and easy 
on and off-~ $35/pair.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb


cenel...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2016 9:10 pm
Subject: Stus-List Cleat covers

Has anyone had successful experience using these on a 70s vintage C&C?

http://www.solvingideas.com/Cleat_Info.html

The recent discussion about attaching sheets ( and getting them hung up on the 
baby stay) reminded me about the times my sheets have gotten snagged by the 
cleats on the cabin top near the mast. So I thought I would give myself a set 
of cleat covers for Christmas.

But the cleats on Imzadi (original 8" cleats) look suspiciously like the ones 
shown that are not compatible with the covers.

Rick Brass
Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2
la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1
Washington, NC

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Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Winter in eastern NC is really strange this year. Last night was 18F. Today was 
33F. Tomorrow is 60. Sunday is 78. And by mid-week next week it is supposed to 
be in the 40s. 

 

I suppose both sides on the issue of climate change will find evidence in there 
somewhere.

 

I just wish it would hang around closer to our long term average (60F) so I 
could go sailing.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:55 PM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

 

We got down to 25 degrees with a ton of wind. Cabin heat is set on about 50 
degrees on the 500 watt setting and the lowest cabin temp I saw was 38. I can 
click here and see my cabin temps from work or my phone:

 

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Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Here in Denver we get 50-degree temperature swings in a day. Thursday high: 64 
(and sunny and calm) in mid-afternoon. Friday low: 14 (and snowing and blowing) 
after dark. Saturday forecast: high of 7 at noon, low of -9 by midnight. That's 
a 73-degree swing in two days. 

Incidentally I recently read 
https://www.amazon.com/Soon-Heard-Roaring-Wind-Natural/dp/0316410608, more or 
less a history of weather forecasting. It's written by a newbie sailor and 
biologist from the University of Alaska, who bought a boat and sailed it from 
Galveston to Guatemala. So each chapter is a mix of weather forecasting 
history, and voyage log. Informative and entertaining; it kept me engaged. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C&C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

- Original Message -

From: "Rick Brass via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Rick Brass"  
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:54:15 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing 



Winter in eastern NC is really strange this year. Last night was 18F. Today was 
33F. Tomorrow is 60. Sunday is 78. And by mid-week next week it is supposed to 
be in the 40s. 



I suppose both sides on the issue of climate change will find evidence in there 
somewhere. 



I just wish it would hang around closer to our long term average (60F) so I 
could go sailing. 



Rick Brass 

Washington, NC 








From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:55 PM 
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'  
Cc: Della Barba, Joe  
Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing 




We got down to 25 degrees with a ton of wind. Cabin heat is set on about 50 
degrees on the 500 watt setting and the lowest cabin temp I saw was 38. I can 
click here and see my cabin temps from work or my phone: 




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