Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

I had Garhauer custom make a traveler for my LF38. Was about $500. Great 
investment.  Turn time was about 3 weeks because I had my sailmaker handle it. 

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus (for sale)Lf38 
Significant Other LF39 
 Original message From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/11/17  11:08  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II 
Call Guido at Garhauer. He made the traveler for my 38 with a tall track and 
the car sized to fit the well in the bridge deck. The hole spacing was made to 
match the pattern of the OEM traveler track. The length was custom for the 
boat. The turning blocks and cleats for the 6:1 adjuster lines were angled to 
allow adjusting from the helm when single handing. 
No extra charge for all the custom work.
And it probably cost less than half the cost of the Lewmar traveler.
Rick Brass

Sent from my iPad
On Jul 11, 2017, at 10:11, Sean Richardson via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi Sylvain,

 

I’m looking to upgrade the original pin stop traveler on my
27 mkIII. How well did the Lewmar fit down in the original track recess and
does it clear the cockpit lockers on either side no problem? Would you happen to
have any pictures?

 

 

Sean

C&C 27 MKIII

LYNX
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine on my 27 
( up to 36 feet supposedly), it runs on Torlon bearings an requires no 
drilling. Price was 400 can$ 3 years ago.Sylvain C&C 27 mkIII

Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 2 mai 2017 à 07:58, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  a 
écrit :

I had a Harken.  Garhauer is 1/3 the price.
Joel
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM Jim Watts via CnC-List  
wrote:
Harken Big Boat Traveler system, if you have a spare G-note or two lying in 
between the cushions on your couch. The original Schaefer stuff is obsolete at 
best, and not worth repairing. 

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 May 2017 at 19:10, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List  
wrote:





My track slide is very difficult to move. The wheels are worn and do not turn 
easily any more. Has anyone found a suitable replacement system or parts to 
repair the existing system?



Cheers, J-G 




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Re: Stus-List Thinking about a new boom - where to start?

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I replaced my boom, a few months ago, with a Selden boom.  All lines are
internal, and the outhaul has an internal 3:1 purchase.  This was the
result of a cracked boom when we got hung up on a crab pot.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Andrew Means via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Some of you may remember a thread about a year ago where I was soliciting
> opinions on how to get a single-line reefing system to work on S.V. Safari,
> my C&C 34.
>
> I can say that I got it working well enough to take us safely to Tofino
> and back, along with a year’s worth of great sailing. The single line
> reefing made reefing with an inexperienced crew much safer and smoother.
> However, it’s not perfect. The reefing lines (along with the outhaul,
> topping lift, etc.) had to contend with a fair amount of friction and
> frozen hardware that will never come off, and as such our reefs tend to not
> be as crisp as they could/should be.
>
> So I’m contemplating what a new boom might look like. Something with
> internal reefing lines, outhaul, topping lift, etc.. I’m not sure where to
> start. What are my options?
>
> Andrew
>
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> Seattle, WA
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Stus-List Thinking about a new boom - where to start?

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

Some of you may remember a thread about a year ago where I was soliciting
opinions on how to get a single-line reefing system to work on S.V. Safari,
my C&C 34.

I can say that I got it working well enough to take us safely to Tofino and
back, along with a year’s worth of great sailing. The single line reefing
made reefing with an inexperienced crew much safer and smoother. However,
it’s not perfect. The reefing lines (along with the outhaul, topping lift,
etc.) had to contend with a fair amount of friction and frozen hardware
that will never come off, and as such our reefs tend to not be as crisp as
they could/should be.

So I’m contemplating what a new boom might look like. Something with
internal reefing lines, outhaul, topping lift, etc.. I’m not sure where to
start. What are my options?

Andrew

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S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 Mk I
Seattle, WA
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Stus-List c&c 27

[Bev Parslow via CnC-List]

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Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

I agree.  I moved to a Schaefer traveler on my C&C32.

Neil Andersen, M.Sc., CISSP, CISM
Auburn, NY 13021
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From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II
To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford mailto:wolf...@erie.net>>


FWIW, I have a Schaefer traveler and am very pleased it.  It is robust but easy 
to operate.  Don’t know about your hole spacing, but for my previous boat 
Schaefer sold me a length of undrilled track for my babystay so I could match 
it to the existing holes.

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:00 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II

Sean,

I have Lewmar Ocean 1 ball bearing genoa cars and a Harken traveler.  In my 
opinion, the Harken is superior.  Harken does make a high beam variable spacing 
traveler track (Harken R32HB) which may fit your application.  Harken tends to 
be a "bit" more pricey, however.  Here's a link to Touche's traveler setup:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsX0dGcEV2Mm1QNUE

It has a 4:1 endless traveler sheet which passes through bulkhead mounted 
swivel cam cleats.  It can be operated easily from forward or aft of the 
traveler.

While I don't have experience with Garhauer travelers, many on the list speak 
highly of them.  I have other Garhauer items on my boat and am positively 
impressed with them.  I have also had Garhauer make custom items for both my 
boat and clients boats.  Good stuff.

A traveler that operates well is, in my opinion, a safety item.  Many 
port/starboard collisions are partially to blame because a traveler would not 
drop quickly or a mainsheet would not release easily.  The port boat was not 
able to turn down due to being extremely powered up.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Sean Richardson via 
CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Certainly seems Garhauer is the way to go Rick. What was the turnaround time 
like on your order?

The Lewmar looks like it could be a quick “off the shelf” solution though.

PS. The old pin stop is a PIA

Sean
C&C 27 MKIII
LYNX

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Rick Brass via 
CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Call Guido at Garhauer. He made the traveler for my 38 with a tall track and 
the car sized to fit the well in the bridge deck. The hole spacing was made to 
match the pattern of the OEM traveler track. The length was custom for the 
boat. The turning blocks and cleats for the 6:1 adjuster lines were angled to 
allow adjusting from the helm when single handing.

No extra charge for all the custom work.

And it probably cost less than half the cost of the Lewmar traveler.

Rick Brass

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 11, 2017, at 10:11, Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hi Sylvain,

I’m looking to upgrade the original pin stop traveler on my 27 mkIII. How well 
did the Lewmar fit down in the original track recess and does it clear the 
cockpit lockers on either side no problem? Would you happen to have any 
pictures?


Sean
C&C 27 MKIII
LYNX

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Sylvain Laplante via 
CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine on my 27 
( up to 36 feet supposedly), it runs on Torlon bearings an requires no 
drilling. Price was 400 can$ 3 years ago.
Sylvain
C&C 27 mkIII


Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 2 mai 2017 à 07:58, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

I had a Harken.  Garhauer is 1/3 the price.

Joel
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM Jim Watts via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Harken Big Boat Traveler system, if you have a spare G-note or two lying in 
between the cushions on your couch. The original Schaefer stuff is obsolete at 
best, and not worth repairing.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 1 May 2017 at 19:10, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
My track slide is very difficult to move. The wheels are worn and do not turn 
easily any more. Has anyone found a suitable replacement system or parts to 
repair the existing system?

Cheers, J-G

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Re: Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 General Questions

[RANDY via CnC-List]

My 1972 30 MK I (hull #7) has the same metal brackets, which go through slots 
in a piece of plywood that slides inboard to make a wider berth. The plywood 
piece has a piece of trim along the inboard edge that acts as a fiddle to hold 
the cushion in place. I'll try to remember to snap a couple pictures tomorrow 
night to post for you. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "Joseph Bognar via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Joseph Bognar"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:13:07 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 General Questions 

I would replace the water tank and not take any chances with it . Some photos 
of your sette would help also. My 30 is of the 1979 vintage . I have an extra 
piece of plywood on top of the sette . It slides between the metal brackets and 
pulls out to make the bed a bit bigger to lay on . 

Sent from Joe Bognar 


On Jul 11, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Steven A. Demore via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 






Need some help/advice from some more experienced C&C people. I am rebuilding a 
’73 30 MK1 project boat, that was started a few years ago by another person and 
abandoned along the way. I am focused on the settee area right now. First, I 
think I can get the mold cleaned out of the water tank, but it looks like there 
are some fine cracks in the bottom. Is there something that I can do to seal it 
up (paint, liner, ?) that would be safe for potable water? 



Second, the settee itself has a couple of metal brackets on the top that would 
keep cushions from sitting flat. Can somebody tell me how the settee goes 
together, i.e. is there a board on top or something? A picture might be helpful 
as well, since I am going to have to build whatever goes in there. 



I’m sure that I’ll have a lot more questions as this project commences, so 
thanks in advance! 


Steve 



SV Doin’ It Right 
1973 C&C 30 MK1 
Pasadena, MD 







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Re: Stus-List repacking toerails

[John Russo via CnC-List]

https://www.grainger.com/product/4PDE9 

 
&AL!2966!3!166593199800!!!g!109227747717!?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg-Kuo8qC1QIVo7vtCh0IwQpeEAQYAiABEgKoc_D_BwE&cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA?campaignid=719344945&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!166593199800109227747717!&ef_id=V584xwAAADhfkeRa:20170712012221:s

 

John 

C&C 32 Arpeggio

Norwalk, CT

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sippel 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Tim Sippel
Subject: Re: Stus-List repacking toerails

 

Ran across this .. haven’t used it or anything but … 

 

 

 
http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/index.cfm?page=search&eSearch1=butyl+tape&CFID=159386617&CFTOKEN=70447718

 

 

Tim

 

Matico

33mk ii

 

 

rom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List
Sent: July 8, 2017 1:34 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List repacking toerails

 

Many listers use this:  http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape

 

I simply put a few applications of Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure between 
the toe rail and deck every other year or so.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Jesse A. Rieber via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 

I need to repack the toe rails on my 32 C&C.  The original packing was butyl.  
Compass Marine sells this but it is a very narrow and extremely thin material, 
less wide than the toe rails. Does anyone have a source or know the original 
source of the material used by C&C?  If so please contact me at JARieber@aol.  
Thanks


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Re: Stus-List repacking toerails

[John Russo via CnC-List]

Check out Butyl tape on Google and look for Grainger. I saw 2” wide x 1/8 thick 
by 30Ft for about $14. I have a  C&C 32 so 3 rolls can do the entire boat.

 

John

C&C 32 

Arpeggio 

Norwalk CT

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sippel 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Tim Sippel
Subject: Re: Stus-List repacking toerails

 

Ran across this .. haven’t used it or anything but … 

 

 

 
http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/index.cfm?page=search&eSearch1=butyl+tape&CFID=159386617&CFTOKEN=70447718

 

 

Tim

 

Matico

33mk ii

 

 

rom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List
Sent: July 8, 2017 1:34 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List repacking toerails

 

Many listers use this:  http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape

 

I simply put a few applications of Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure between 
the toe rail and deck every other year or so.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Jesse A. Rieber via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 

I need to repack the toe rails on my 32 C&C.  The original packing was butyl.  
Compass Marine sells this but it is a very narrow and extremely thin material, 
less wide than the toe rails. Does anyone have a source or know the original 
source of the material used by C&C?  If so please contact me at JARieber@aol.  
Thanks


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Re: Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 General Questions

[Joseph Bognar via CnC-List]

I would replace the water tank and not take any chances with it . Some photos 
of your sette would help also. My 30 is of the 1979 vintage . I have an extra 
piece of plywood on top of the sette . It slides between the metal brackets and 
pulls out to make the bed a bit bigger to lay on . 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On Jul 11, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Steven A. Demore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Need some help/advice from some more experienced C&C people.  I am rebuilding 
> a ’73 30 MK1 project boat, that was started a few years ago by another person 
> and abandoned along the way.  I am focused on the settee area right now.  
> First, I think I can get the mold cleaned out of the water tank, but it looks 
> like there are some fine cracks in the bottom.  Is there something that I can 
> do to seal it up (paint, liner, ?) that would be safe for potable water?
>  
> Second, the settee itself has a couple of metal brackets on the top that 
> would keep cushions from sitting flat.  Can somebody tell me how the settee 
> goes together, i.e. is there a board on top or something?  A picture might be 
> helpful as well, since I am going to have to build whatever goes in there.
>  
> I’m sure that I’ll have a lot more questions as this project commences, so 
> thanks in advance!
> 
> Steve
>  
> SV Doin’ It Right
> 1973 C&C 30 MK1
> Pasadena, MD
> 
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Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 General Questions

[Steven A. Demore via CnC-List]

Need some help/advice from some more experienced C&C people.  I am
rebuilding a '73 30 MK1 project boat, that was started a few years ago by
another person and abandoned along the way.  I am focused on the settee area
right now.  First, I think I can get the mold cleaned out of the water tank,
but it looks like there are some fine cracks in the bottom.  Is there
something that I can do to seal it up (paint, liner, ?) that would be safe
for potable water?

 

Second, the settee itself has a couple of metal brackets on the top that
would keep cushions from sitting flat.  Can somebody tell me how the settee
goes together, i.e. is there a board on top or something?  A picture might
be helpful as well, since I am going to have to build whatever goes in
there.

 

I'm sure that I'll have a lot more questions as this project commences, so
thanks in advance!


Steve

 

SV Doin' It Right
1973 C&C 30 MK1
Pasadena, MD

 

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Re: Stus-List Anyone in Oriental to look at a boat?

[Charles Nelson via CnC-List]

Be there on Saturday to work on my boat so could have a look. Just let me know 
which boat/broker if I need to get inside.
Charlie Nelson

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> On Jul 11, 2017, at 9:41 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
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> 
> Joe
> Coquina
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Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 27

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

  Wasn't this post originally about a 27 traveller track?I have a 26. Replaced the original pin stop track with a Harken.It fit perfectly in the slot in the bridge deck and left plenty of room for the new harken traveller. No need for a raised traveller. The track had a slot all along the bottom, so the bolts could use the original holes. Nice solution and works great.I also have a Gaurhauer rigid boom vang ‎and Garhauer adjustable genoa sheets - they make great stuff too. But the harken traveller fitted perfectly and no messing with bolt spacings.sam :-)C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: Dennis C. via CnC-ListSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:01 PMTo: CnClistReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Dennis C.Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk IISean,I have Lewmar Ocean 1 ball bearing genoa cars and a Harken traveler.  In my opinion, the Harken is superior.  Harken does make a high beam variable spacing traveler track (Harken R32HB) which may fit your application.  Harken tends to be a "bit" more pricey, however.  Here's a link to Touche's traveler setup:https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsX0dGcEV2Mm1QNUEIt has a 4:1 endless traveler sheet which passes through bulkhead mounted swivel cam cleats.  It can be operated easily from forward or aft of the traveler.While I don't have experience with Garhauer travelers, many on the list speak highly of them.  I have other Garhauer items on my boat and am positively impressed with them.  I have also had Garhauer make custom items for both my boat and clients boats.  Good stuff.A traveler that operates well is, in my opinion, a safety item.  Many port/starboard collisions are partially to blame because a traveler would not drop quickly or a mainsheet would not release easily.  The port boat was not able to turn down due to being extremely powered up.Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LAOn Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Sean Richardson via CnC-List  wrote:Certainly seems Garhauer is the way to go Rick. What was the
turnaround time like on your order?

 

The Lewmar looks like it could be a quick “off the shelf”
solution though.

 

PS. The old pin stop is a PIA SeanC&C 27 MKIIILYNXOn Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  wrote:Call Guido at Garhauer. He made the traveler for my 38 with a tall track and the car sized to fit the well in the bridge deck. The hole spacing was made to match the pattern of the OEM traveler track. The length was custom for the boat. The turning blocks and cleats for the 6:1 adjuster lines were angled to allow adjusting from the helm when single handing. No extra charge for all the custom work.And it probably cost less than half the cost of the Lewmar traveler.Rick BrassSent from my iPadOn Jul 11, 2017, at 10:11, Sean Richardson via CnC-List  wrote:Hi Sylvain,

 

I’m looking to upgrade the original pin stop traveler on my
27 mkIII. How well did the Lewmar fit down in the original track recess and
does it clear the cockpit lockers on either side no problem? Would you happen to
have any pictures?

 

 

Sean

C&C 27 MKIII

LYNXOn Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List  wrote:Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine on my 27 ( up to 36 feet supposedly), it runs on Torlon bearings an requires no drilling. Price was 400 can$ 3 years ago.Sylvain C&C 27 mkIIIEnvoyé de mon iPhoneLe 2 mai 2017 à 07:58, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  a écrit :I had a Harken.  Garhauer is 1/3 the price.JoelOn Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM Jim Watts via CnC-List  wrote:Harken Big Boat Traveler system, if you have a spare G-note or two lying in between the cushions on your couch. The original Schaefer stuff is obsolete at best, and not worth repairing. Jim WattsParadigm ShiftC&C 35 Mk IIIVictoria, BC
On 1 May 2017 at 19:10, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List  wrote:




My track slide is very difficult to move. The wheels are worn and do not turn easily any more. Has anyone found a suitable replacement system or parts to repair the existing system?

Cheers, J-G 



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Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

FWIW, I have a Schaefer traveler and am very pleased it.  It is robust but easy 
to operate.  Don’t know about your hole spacing, but for my previous boat 
Schaefer sold me a length of undrilled track for my babystay so I could match 
it to the existing holes.

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:00 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II

Sean, 

I have Lewmar Ocean 1 ball bearing genoa cars and a Harken traveler.  In my 
opinion, the Harken is superior.  Harken does make a high beam variable spacing 
traveler track (Harken R32HB) which may fit your application.  Harken tends to 
be a "bit" more pricey, however.  Here's a link to Touche's traveler setup:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsX0dGcEV2Mm1QNUE


It has a 4:1 endless traveler sheet which passes through bulkhead mounted 
swivel cam cleats.  It can be operated easily from forward or aft of the 
traveler.

While I don't have experience with Garhauer travelers, many on the list speak 
highly of them.  I have other Garhauer items on my boat and am positively 
impressed with them.  I have also had Garhauer make custom items for both my 
boat and clients boats.  Good stuff.

A traveler that operates well is, in my opinion, a safety item.  Many 
port/starboard collisions are partially to blame because a traveler would not 
drop quickly or a mainsheet would not release easily.  The port boat was not 
able to turn down due to being extremely powered up.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Certainly seems Garhauer is the way to go Rick. What was the turnaround time 
like on your order?



  The Lewmar looks like it could be a quick “off the shelf” solution though.



  PS. The old pin stop is a PIA 



  Sean

  C&C 27 MKIII

  LYNX


  On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Call Guido at Garhauer. He made the traveler for my 38 with a tall track 
and the car sized to fit the well in the bridge deck. The hole spacing was made 
to match the pattern of the OEM traveler track. The length was custom for the 
boat. The turning blocks and cleats for the 6:1 adjuster lines were angled to 
allow adjusting from the helm when single handing. 

No extra charge for all the custom work.

And it probably cost less than half the cost of the Lewmar traveler.

Rick Brass

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 11, 2017, at 10:11, Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
 wrote:


  Hi Sylvain,



  I’m looking to upgrade the original pin stop traveler on my 27 mkIII. How 
well did the Lewmar fit down in the original track recess and does it clear the 
cockpit lockers on either side no problem? Would you happen to have any 
pictures?





  Sean

  C&C 27 MKIII

  LYNX


  On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine 
on my 27 ( up to 36 feet supposedly), it runs on Torlon bearings an requires no 
drilling. Price was 400 can$ 3 years ago.
Sylvain 
C&C 27 mkIII


Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 2 mai 2017 à 07:58, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 a écrit :


  I had a Harken.  Garhauer is 1/3 the price.

  Joel

  On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM Jim Watts via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Harken Big Boat Traveler system, if you have a spare G-note or two 
lying in between the cushions on your couch. The original Schaefer stuff is 
obsolete at best, and not worth repairing. 


Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 May 2017 at 19:10, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  My track slide is very difficult to move. The wheels are worn and 
do not turn easily any more. Has anyone found a suitable replacement system or 
parts to repair the existing system?


  Cheers, J-G 


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Stus-List 35-2 traveler

[Howard and Skippy via CnC-List]

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:08:13 -0400
From: Rick Brass
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II
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Call Guido at Garhauer. He made the traveler for my 38 with a tall track and 
the car sized to fit the well in the bridge deck. The hole spacing was made to 
match the pattern of the OEM traveler track. The length was custom for the 
boat. The turning blocks and cleats for the 6:1 adjuster lines were angled to 
allow adjusting from the helm when single handing.

No extra charge for all the custom work

Ditto on the suggestion. Garhauer made the traveler for my 35-3. Fits 
perfectly. It feeds quick release, flick up flick down cleats so you can move 
the traveler even when loaded. Garhauers products are all excellent. They will 
work with you and you will have a very workable, affordable product.
Howard Paul, Skipper Knot Again 35-3

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Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Sean,

I have Lewmar Ocean 1 ball bearing genoa cars and a Harken traveler.  In my
opinion, the Harken is superior.  Harken does make a high beam variable
spacing traveler track (Harken R32HB) which may fit your application.
Harken tends to be a "bit" more pricey, however.  Here's a link to Touche's
traveler setup:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsX0dGcEV2Mm1QNUE

It has a 4:1 endless traveler sheet which passes through bulkhead mounted
swivel cam cleats.  It can be operated easily from forward or aft of the
traveler.

While I don't have experience with Garhauer travelers, many on the list
speak highly of them.  I have other Garhauer items on my boat and am
positively impressed with them.  I have also had Garhauer make custom items
for both my boat and clients boats.  Good stuff.

A traveler that operates well is, in my opinion, a safety item.  Many
port/starboard collisions are partially to blame because a traveler would
not drop quickly or a mainsheet would not release easily.  The port boat
was not able to turn down due to being extremely powered up.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Sean Richardson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Certainly seems Garhauer is the way to go Rick. What was the turnaround
> time like on your order?
>
>
>
> The Lewmar looks like it could be a quick “off the shelf” solution though.
>
>
>
> PS. The old pin stop is a PIA
>
>
> Sean
>
> C&C 27 MKIII
>
> LYNX
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Call Guido at Garhauer. He made the traveler for my 38 with a tall track
>> and the car sized to fit the well in the bridge deck. The hole spacing was
>> made to match the pattern of the OEM traveler track. The length was custom
>> for the boat. The turning blocks and cleats for the 6:1 adjuster lines were
>> angled to allow adjusting from the helm when single handing.
>>
>> No extra charge for all the custom work.
>>
>> And it probably cost less than half the cost of the Lewmar traveler.
>>
>> Rick Brass
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 10:11, Sean Richardson via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sylvain,
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m looking to upgrade the original pin stop traveler on my 27 mkIII. How
>> well did the Lewmar fit down in the original track recess and does it clear
>> the cockpit lockers on either side no problem? Would you happen to have any
>> pictures?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> C&C 27 MKIII
>>
>> LYNX
>>
>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine
>>> on my 27 ( up to 36 feet supposedly), it runs on Torlon bearings an
>>> requires no drilling. Price was 400 can$ 3 years ago.
>>> Sylvain
>>> C&C 27 mkIII
>>>
>>>
>>> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>>>
>>> Le 2 mai 2017 à 07:58, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>> I had a Harken.  Garhauer is 1/3 the price.
>>>
>>> Joel
>>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM Jim Watts via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Harken Big Boat Traveler system, if you have a spare G-note or two
 lying in between the cushions on your couch. The original Schaefer stuff is
 obsolete at best, and not worth repairing.

 Jim Watts
 Paradigm Shift
 C&C 35 Mk III
 Victoria, BC

 On 1 May 2017 at 19:10, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List <
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My track slide is very difficult to move. The wheels are worn and do
> not turn easily any more. Has anyone found a suitable replacement system 
> or
> parts to repair the existing system?
>
> Cheers, J-G
>
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Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II

[Sean Richardson via CnC-List]

Certainly seems Garhauer is the way to go Rick. What was the turnaround
time like on your order?



The Lewmar looks like it could be a quick “off the shelf” solution though.



PS. The old pin stop is a PIA


Sean

C&C 27 MKIII

LYNX

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Call Guido at Garhauer. He made the traveler for my 38 with a tall track
> and the car sized to fit the well in the bridge deck. The hole spacing was
> made to match the pattern of the OEM traveler track. The length was custom
> for the boat. The turning blocks and cleats for the 6:1 adjuster lines were
> angled to allow adjusting from the helm when single handing.
>
> No extra charge for all the custom work.
>
> And it probably cost less than half the cost of the Lewmar traveler.
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 11, 2017, at 10:11, Sean Richardson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Sylvain,
>
>
>
> I’m looking to upgrade the original pin stop traveler on my 27 mkIII. How
> well did the Lewmar fit down in the original track recess and does it clear
> the cockpit lockers on either side no problem? Would you happen to have any
> pictures?
>
>
>
>
>
> Sean
>
> C&C 27 MKIII
>
> LYNX
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine on
>> my 27 ( up to 36 feet supposedly), it runs on Torlon bearings an requires
>> no drilling. Price was 400 can$ 3 years ago.
>> Sylvain
>> C&C 27 mkIII
>>
>>
>> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>>
>> Le 2 mai 2017 à 07:58, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>> a écrit :
>>
>> I had a Harken.  Garhauer is 1/3 the price.
>>
>> Joel
>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM Jim Watts via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Harken Big Boat Traveler system, if you have a spare G-note or two lying
>>> in between the cushions on your couch. The original Schaefer stuff is
>>> obsolete at best, and not worth repairing.
>>>
>>> Jim Watts
>>> Paradigm Shift
>>> C&C 35 Mk III
>>> Victoria, BC
>>>
>>> On 1 May 2017 at 19:10, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 My track slide is very difficult to move. The wheels are worn and do
 not turn easily any more. Has anyone found a suitable replacement system or
 parts to repair the existing system?

 Cheers, J-G

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Re: Stus-List Anyone in Oriental to look at a boat?

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I will be in Oreintal with a charter group tomorrow afternoon. I can also drive 
down one day next week. It is lass than an hour from home.

Rick Brass

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> On Jul 11, 2017, at 09:41, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Joe
> Coquina
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Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Call Guido at Garhauer. He made the traveler for my 38 with a tall track and 
the car sized to fit the well in the bridge deck. The hole spacing was made to 
match the pattern of the OEM traveler track. The length was custom for the 
boat. The turning blocks and cleats for the 6:1 adjuster lines were angled to 
allow adjusting from the helm when single handing. 

No extra charge for all the custom work.

And it probably cost less than half the cost of the Lewmar traveler.

Rick Brass

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 11, 2017, at 10:11, Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sylvain,
> 
>  
> 
> I’m looking to upgrade the original pin stop traveler on my 27 mkIII. How 
> well did the Lewmar fit down in the original track recess and does it clear 
> the cockpit lockers on either side no problem? Would you happen to have any 
> pictures?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Sean
> 
> C&C 27 MKIII
> 
> LYNX
> 
> 
>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine on my 
>> 27 ( up to 36 feet supposedly), it runs on Torlon bearings an requires no 
>> drilling. Price was 400 can$ 3 years ago.
>> Sylvain 
>> C&C 27 mkIII
>> 
>> 
>> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>> 
>>> Le 2 mai 2017 à 07:58, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  a 
>>> écrit :
>>> 
>>> I had a Harken.  Garhauer is 1/3 the price.
>>> 
>>> Joel
 On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM Jim Watts via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 Harken Big Boat Traveler system, if you have a spare G-note or two lying 
 in between the cushions on your couch. The original Schaefer stuff is 
 obsolete at best, and not worth repairing. 
 
 Jim Watts
 Paradigm Shift
 C&C 35 Mk III
 Victoria, BC
 
> On 1 May 2017 at 19:10, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> My track slide is very difficult to move. The wheels are worn and do not 
> turn easily any more. Has anyone found a suitable replacement system or 
> parts to repair the existing system?
> 
> Cheers, J-G 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Night Racing Photos

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

The moon shot is a keeper!Jim Schwartz SEA YA!38 LFWashington nc 


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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Stus-List Night Racing Photos 
The moon shot is nice!

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Subject: Stus-List Night Racing Photos

Listers-

Colorado Sail & Yacht Club held its annual Fugawi night race Saturday night in 
the full moon.  In case you're interested I added two photos to the end of 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTVnJfSm9lRnZNa1E.  One shows the 
raft-up beforehand from a drone's perspective; Grenadine is third from right, 
with the tallest mast.  In the other one, someone captured Grenadine's 
spinnaker casting a moon shadow, which was kind of a cool shot.  It's a bit 
blurry, but that's how I was seeing things at the time, too - lots of Captain 
Randy's Famous Rum Punch consumed :)

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

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Re: Stus-List Anyone in Oriental to look at a boat?

[james via CnC-List]

Joe,

Beside myself, Charlie Nelson and Mark Baldridge are in Oriental. I'll 
be back down on the boat in a couple of weeks and would be happy to go 
looking


James

SV Delaney

1976 C&C 38

Oriental, NC


On 7/11/2017 9:41 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:


Joe

Coquina



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Re: Stus-List repacking toerails

[Tim Sippel via CnC-List]

Ran across this .. haven’t used it or anything but …

http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/index.cfm?page=search&eSearch1=butyl+tape&CFID=159386617&CFTOKEN=70447718


Tim

Matico
33mk ii


rom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List
Sent: July 8, 2017 1:34 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List repacking toerails

Many listers use this:  http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape

I simply put a few applications of Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure between 
the toe rail and deck every other year or so.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Jesse A. Rieber via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I need to repack the toe rails on my 32 C&C.  The original packing was butyl.  
Compass Marine sells this but it is a very narrow and extremely thin material, 
less wide than the toe rails. Does anyone have a source or know the original 
source of the material used by C&C?  If so please contact me at JARieber@aol.  
Thanks

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Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

[Dan via CnC-List]

this prop is a 3 blade geared folding prop. It may not be the original prop
though... I remember being told this was a $2000 prop at the time I viewed
the boat :)

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A geared folding prop does not have the same problem and is also fast (and
> a great way to spend another $2000)
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Della
> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:05 AM
> *To:* Dan; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not
>
>
>
> Looking back, you can check the shaft tube and strut for damage. It could
> also just be a leaky stuffing box. Going forward, if you persist with the
> folding prop (I totally hate them but the boat sails faster), if it does
> not open, STOP RIGHT THEN and fix it before it does some damage. The more
> you use the boat, the less likely you are to have issues too.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Dan [mailto:dgcorm...@gmail.com ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:00 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not
>
>
>
> Very helpful, thank you so much - and also very scarey... This boat does
> have a folding prop but it looks brand new. I think this surveyor has more
> to say but is waiting to get right into the full survey. I did discover
> that there is about an inch of standing water under the engine and around
> the prop shaft that could account for the high external meter readings in
> that area. The area near the bow of the boat is still a mystery. I've
> learned that all C&C's from this era over 32' have coring below the
> waterline down to about 12" from the centerline where it becomes solid
> glass. Hopefully this spot is just a tank and not wet core.
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Besides for that, I would expect a surveyor to TELL ME things like that,
> not me tell him!
>
> Do note a half-open folding prop can do extensive damage. When my parents
> had Coquina out in the 1980s they had to do an emergency haul-out because
> the f%$%^&% Martec stuck half-open and nearly ripped the strut off the
> boat. I suspect this could be much worse with a diesel on rubber mounts too.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt,
> Mike via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:21 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike 
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not
>
>
>
> The shaft exists the hull thru the Stern Tube.  Is possible there was some
> damage or vibration at some point that created a crack which has likely
> been repaired since.  Normally areas such as stern tube, strut, etc … are
> solid rather than cored.  Find out because is possible is not moisture
> being read and maybe just an epoxy repair which can read differently on
> moisture meters…
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *William Walker via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 7:38 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* wwadjo...@aol.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not
>
>
>
> I am shocked too...i think I would be careful answering for him..this is
> what you pay for...
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> --
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 John Irvin via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I'm surprised the surveyor doesn't know most of these answers himself.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Regarding the 1986 C&C 44 I'm buying:
>
>
>
> My surveyor got back to me having done only the moisture meter readings on
> the hull and topsides. The results were not horrific but there are some
> areas of concern and I have some questions for other C&C owners with Balsa
> cored boats from around 1986.
>
>
>
> 1. The surveyor asked if the balsa extends below the water line or is the
> boat solid glass waterline down?
>
>
>
> 2. There was a high moisture content found in the bow area, starboard side
> below the waterline just below the chain locker area. Is there a water tank
> there or could this be wet balsa?
>
>
>
> 3. There was a very high moisture content all around the shaft log (where
> the propeller shaft protrudes) - Does anyone know why that would be?
>
>
>
> 4. There was slightly elevated moisture around the anchor windlass and
> foot pedals. Was an electric windlass a standard install on a C&C44 or
> could this moisture be due to someone cutting a hole themselves without
> isolating the core?
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone, sorry, I know this was a little longer but It'd be gre

Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk II

[Sean Richardson via CnC-List]

Hi Sylvain,



I’m looking to upgrade the original pin stop traveler on my 27 mkIII. How
well did the Lewmar fit down in the original track recess and does it clear
the cockpit lockers on either side no problem? Would you happen to have any
pictures?





Sean

C&C 27 MKIII

LYNX

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine on
> my 27 ( up to 36 feet supposedly), it runs on Torlon bearings an requires
> no drilling. Price was 400 can$ 3 years ago.
> Sylvain
> C&C 27 mkIII
>
>
> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>
> Le 2 mai 2017 à 07:58, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> a écrit :
>
> I had a Harken.  Garhauer is 1/3 the price.
>
> Joel
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM Jim Watts via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Harken Big Boat Traveler system, if you have a spare G-note or two lying
>> in between the cushions on your couch. The original Schaefer stuff is
>> obsolete at best, and not worth repairing.
>>
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C&C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>>
>> On 1 May 2017 at 19:10, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My track slide is very difficult to move. The wheels are worn and do not
>>> turn easily any more. Has anyone found a suitable replacement system or
>>> parts to repair the existing system?
>>>
>>> Cheers, J-G
>>>
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Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

A geared folding prop does not have the same problem and is also fast (and a 
great way to spend another $2000)

Mike
Persistence

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:05 AM
To: Dan; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

Looking back, you can check the shaft tube and strut for damage. It could also 
just be a leaky stuffing box. Going forward, if you persist with the folding 
prop (I totally hate them but the boat sails faster), if it does not open, STOP 
RIGHT THEN and fix it before it does some damage. The more you use the boat, 
the less likely you are to have issues too.

Joe
Coquina


From: Dan [mailto:dgcorm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

Very helpful, thank you so much - and also very scarey... This boat does have a 
folding prop but it looks brand new. I think this surveyor has more to say but 
is waiting to get right into the full survey. I did discover that there is 
about an inch of standing water under the engine and around the prop shaft that 
could account for the high external meter readings in that area. The area near 
the bow of the boat is still a mystery. I've learned that all C&C's from this 
era over 32' have coring below the waterline down to about 12" from the 
centerline where it becomes solid glass. Hopefully this spot is just a tank and 
not wet core.

Dan

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Besides for that, I would expect a surveyor to TELL ME things like that, not me 
tell him!
Do note a half-open folding prop can do extensive damage. When my parents had 
Coquina out in the 1980s they had to do an emergency haul-out because the 
f%$%^&% Martec stuck half-open and nearly ripped the strut off the boat. I 
suspect this could be much worse with a diesel on rubber mounts too.

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:21 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>>

Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

The shaft exists the hull thru the Stern Tube.  Is possible there was some 
damage or vibration at some point that created a crack which has likely been 
repaired since.  Normally areas such as stern tube, strut, etc … are solid 
rather than cored.  Find out because is possible is not moisture being read and 
maybe just an epoxy repair which can read differently on moisture meters…

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of William 
Walker via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not


I am shocked too...i think I would be careful answering for him..this is what 
you pay for...
Bill Walker
CnC 36

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail


On Monday, July 10, 2017 John Irvin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I'm surprised the surveyor doesn't know most of these answers himself.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Regarding the 1986 C&C 44 I'm buying:

My surveyor got back to me having done only the moisture meter readings on the 
hull and topsides. The results were not horrific but there are some areas of 
concern and I have some questions for other C&C owners with Balsa cored boats 
from around 1986.

1. The surveyor asked if the balsa extends below the water line or is the boat 
solid glass waterline down?

2. There was a high moisture content found in the bow area, starboard side 
below the waterline just below the chain locker area. Is there a water tank 
there or could this be wet balsa?

3. There was a very high moisture content all around the shaft log (where the 
propeller shaft protrudes) - Does anyone know why that would be?

4. There was slightly elevated moisture around the anchor windlass and foot 
pedals. Was an electric windlass a standard install on a C&C44 or could this 
moisture be due to someone cutting a hole themselves without isolating the core?

Thanks everyone, sorry, I know this was a little longer but It'd be great to 
know what I'm dealing with! :)

Dan

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Dan 
mailto:dgcorm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry if this was sent twice - the first time I tried it I was not registered 
but had no responses...

I'm looking at a 1986 C&C 44 to buy. Before I get into paying for a survey to 

Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Looking back, you can check the shaft tube and strut for damage. It could also 
just be a leaky stuffing box. Going forward, if you persist with the folding 
prop (I totally hate them but the boat sails faster), if it does not open, STOP 
RIGHT THEN and fix it before it does some damage. The more you use the boat, 
the less likely you are to have issues too.

Joe
Coquina


From: Dan [mailto:dgcorm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

Very helpful, thank you so much - and also very scarey... This boat does have a 
folding prop but it looks brand new. I think this surveyor has more to say but 
is waiting to get right into the full survey. I did discover that there is 
about an inch of standing water under the engine and around the prop shaft that 
could account for the high external meter readings in that area. The area near 
the bow of the boat is still a mystery. I've learned that all C&C's from this 
era over 32' have coring below the waterline down to about 12" from the 
centerline where it becomes solid glass. Hopefully this spot is just a tank and 
not wet core.

Dan

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Besides for that, I would expect a surveyor to TELL ME things like that, not me 
tell him!
Do note a half-open folding prop can do extensive damage. When my parents had 
Coquina out in the 1980s they had to do an emergency haul-out because the 
f%$%^&% Martec stuck half-open and nearly ripped the strut off the boat. I 
suspect this could be much worse with a diesel on rubber mounts too.

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:21 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>>

Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

The shaft exists the hull thru the Stern Tube.  Is possible there was some 
damage or vibration at some point that created a crack which has likely been 
repaired since.  Normally areas such as stern tube, strut, etc … are solid 
rather than cored.  Find out because is possible is not moisture being read and 
maybe just an epoxy repair which can read differently on moisture meters…

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of William 
Walker via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not


I am shocked too...i think I would be careful answering for him..this is what 
you pay for...
Bill Walker
CnC 36

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail


On Monday, July 10, 2017 John Irvin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I'm surprised the surveyor doesn't know most of these answers himself.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Regarding the 1986 C&C 44 I'm buying:

My surveyor got back to me having done only the moisture meter readings on the 
hull and topsides. The results were not horrific but there are some areas of 
concern and I have some questions for other C&C owners with Balsa cored boats 
from around 1986.

1. The surveyor asked if the balsa extends below the water line or is the boat 
solid glass waterline down?

2. There was a high moisture content found in the bow area, starboard side 
below the waterline just below the chain locker area. Is there a water tank 
there or could this be wet balsa?

3. There was a very high moisture content all around the shaft log (where the 
propeller shaft protrudes) - Does anyone know why that would be?

4. There was slightly elevated moisture around the anchor windlass and foot 
pedals. Was an electric windlass a standard install on a C&C44 or could this 
moisture be due to someone cutting a hole themselves without isolating the core?

Thanks everyone, sorry, I know this was a little longer but It'd be great to 
know what I'm dealing with! :)

Dan

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Dan 
mailto:dgcorm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry if this was sent twice - the first time I tried it I was not registered 
but had no responses...

I'm looking at a 1986 C&C 44 to buy. Before I get into paying for a survey to 
check the core out with a moisture meter I'm wondering if any 44 owners out 
there have had any problems with wet core? - when you remove through hull 
fittings is the core isolated with solid glass to prevent egress or can you 
visibly see the balsa core layer?

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Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

[Dan via CnC-List]

Very helpful, thank you so much - and also very scarey... This boat does
have a folding prop but it looks brand new. I think this surveyor has more
to say but is waiting to get right into the full survey. I did discover
that there is about an inch of standing water under the engine and around
the prop shaft that could account for the high external meter readings in
that area. The area near the bow of the boat is still a mystery. I've
learned that all C&C's from this era over 32' have coring below the
waterline down to about 12" from the centerline where it becomes solid
glass. Hopefully this spot is just a tank and not wet core.

Dan

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Besides for that, I would expect a surveyor to TELL ME things like that,
> not me tell him!
>
> Do note a half-open folding prop can do extensive damage. When my parents
> had Coquina out in the 1980s they had to do an emergency haul-out because
> the f%$%^&% Martec stuck half-open and nearly ripped the strut off the
> boat. I suspect this could be much worse with a diesel on rubber mounts too.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt,
> Mike via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:21 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike 
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not
>
>
>
> The shaft exists the hull thru the Stern Tube.  Is possible there was some
> damage or vibration at some point that created a crack which has likely
> been repaired since.  Normally areas such as stern tube, strut, etc … are
> solid rather than cored.  Find out because is possible is not moisture
> being read and maybe just an epoxy repair which can read differently on
> moisture meters…
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *William Walker via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 7:38 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* wwadjo...@aol.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not
>
>
>
> I am shocked too...i think I would be careful answering for him..this is
> what you pay for...
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> --
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 John Irvin via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I'm surprised the surveyor doesn't know most of these answers himself.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Regarding the 1986 C&C 44 I'm buying:
>
>
>
> My surveyor got back to me having done only the moisture meter readings on
> the hull and topsides. The results were not horrific but there are some
> areas of concern and I have some questions for other C&C owners with Balsa
> cored boats from around 1986.
>
>
>
> 1. The surveyor asked if the balsa extends below the water line or is the
> boat solid glass waterline down?
>
>
>
> 2. There was a high moisture content found in the bow area, starboard side
> below the waterline just below the chain locker area. Is there a water tank
> there or could this be wet balsa?
>
>
>
> 3. There was a very high moisture content all around the shaft log (where
> the propeller shaft protrudes) - Does anyone know why that would be?
>
>
>
> 4. There was slightly elevated moisture around the anchor windlass and
> foot pedals. Was an electric windlass a standard install on a C&C44 or
> could this moisture be due to someone cutting a hole themselves without
> isolating the core?
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone, sorry, I know this was a little longer but It'd be great
> to know what I'm dealing with! :)
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Dan  wrote:
>
> Sorry if this was sent twice - the first time I tried it I was not
> registered but had no responses...
>
>
>
> I'm looking at a 1986 C&C 44 to buy. Before I get into paying for a survey
> to check the core out with a moisture meter I'm wondering if any 44 owners
> out there have had any problems with wet core? - when you remove through
> hull fittings is the core isolated with solid glass to prevent egress or
> can you visibly see the balsa core layer?
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Besides for that, I would expect a surveyor to TELL ME things like that, not me 
tell him!
Do note a half-open folding prop can do extensive damage. When my parents had 
Coquina out in the 1980s they had to do an emergency haul-out because the 
f%$%^&% Martec stuck half-open and nearly ripped the strut off the boat. I 
suspect this could be much worse with a diesel on rubber mounts too.

Joe
Coquina

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:21 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

The shaft exists the hull thru the Stern Tube.  Is possible there was some 
damage or vibration at some point that created a crack which has likely been 
repaired since.  Normally areas such as stern tube, strut, etc … are solid 
rather than cored.  Find out because is possible is not moisture being read and 
maybe just an epoxy repair which can read differently on moisture meters…

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

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Walker via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not


I am shocked too...i think I would be careful answering for him..this is what 
you pay for...
Bill Walker
CnC 36

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On Monday, July 10, 2017 John Irvin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I'm surprised the surveyor doesn't know most of these answers himself.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Regarding the 1986 C&C 44 I'm buying:

My surveyor got back to me having done only the moisture meter readings on the 
hull and topsides. The results were not horrific but there are some areas of 
concern and I have some questions for other C&C owners with Balsa cored boats 
from around 1986.

1. The surveyor asked if the balsa extends below the water line or is the boat 
solid glass waterline down?

2. There was a high moisture content found in the bow area, starboard side 
below the waterline just below the chain locker area. Is there a water tank 
there or could this be wet balsa?

3. There was a very high moisture content all around the shaft log (where the 
propeller shaft protrudes) - Does anyone know why that would be?

4. There was slightly elevated moisture around the anchor windlass and foot 
pedals. Was an electric windlass a standard install on a C&C44 or could this 
moisture be due to someone cutting a hole themselves without isolating the core?

Thanks everyone, sorry, I know this was a little longer but It'd be great to 
know what I'm dealing with! :)

Dan

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Dan 
mailto:dgcorm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry if this was sent twice - the first time I tried it I was not registered 
but had no responses...

I'm looking at a 1986 C&C 44 to buy. Before I get into paying for a survey to 
check the core out with a moisture meter I'm wondering if any 44 owners out 
there have had any problems with wet core? - when you remove through hull 
fittings is the core isolated with solid glass to prevent egress or can you 
visibly see the balsa core layer?

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Stus-List Anyone in Oriental to look at a boat?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Joe
Coquina
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Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

[Dan via CnC-List]

Thanks Mike! - I'm also in Halifax and plan to bring this boat here if the
sale goes through.

Dan

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The shaft exists the hull thru the Stern Tube.  Is possible there was some
> damage or vibration at some point that created a crack which has likely
> been repaired since.  Normally areas such as stern tube, strut, etc … are
> solid rather than cored.  Find out because is possible is not moisture
> being read and maybe just an epoxy repair which can read differently on
> moisture meters…
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *William
> Walker via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 7:38 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* wwadjo...@aol.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not
>
>
>
> I am shocked too...i think I would be careful answering for him..this is
> what you pay for...
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> --
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 John Irvin via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I'm surprised the surveyor doesn't know most of these answers himself.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Regarding the 1986 C&C 44 I'm buying:
>
>
>
> My surveyor got back to me having done only the moisture meter readings on
> the hull and topsides. The results were not horrific but there are some
> areas of concern and I have some questions for other C&C owners with Balsa
> cored boats from around 1986.
>
>
>
> 1. The surveyor asked if the balsa extends below the water line or is the
> boat solid glass waterline down?
>
>
>
> 2. There was a high moisture content found in the bow area, starboard side
> below the waterline just below the chain locker area. Is there a water tank
> there or could this be wet balsa?
>
>
>
> 3. There was a very high moisture content all around the shaft log (where
> the propeller shaft protrudes) - Does anyone know why that would be?
>
>
>
> 4. There was slightly elevated moisture around the anchor windlass and
> foot pedals. Was an electric windlass a standard install on a C&C44 or
> could this moisture be due to someone cutting a hole themselves without
> isolating the core?
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone, sorry, I know this was a little longer but It'd be great
> to know what I'm dealing with! :)
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Dan  wrote:
>
> Sorry if this was sent twice - the first time I tried it I was not
> registered but had no responses...
>
>
>
> I'm looking at a 1986 C&C 44 to buy. Before I get into paying for a survey
> to check the core out with a moisture meter I'm wondering if any 44 owners
> out there have had any problems with wet core? - when you remove through
> hull fittings is the core isolated with solid glass to prevent egress or
> can you visibly see the balsa core layer?
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

The shaft exists the hull thru the Stern Tube.  Is possible there was some 
damage or vibration at some point that created a crack which has likely been 
repaired since.  Normally areas such as stern tube, strut, etc … are solid 
rather than cored.  Find out because is possible is not moisture being read and 
maybe just an epoxy repair which can read differently on moisture meters…

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of William 
Walker via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not


I am shocked too...i think I would be careful answering for him..this is what 
you pay for...
Bill Walker
CnC 36

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail


On Monday, July 10, 2017 John Irvin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I'm surprised the surveyor doesn't know most of these answers himself.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Regarding the 1986 C&C 44 I'm buying:

My surveyor got back to me having done only the moisture meter readings on the 
hull and topsides. The results were not horrific but there are some areas of 
concern and I have some questions for other C&C owners with Balsa cored boats 
from around 1986.

1. The surveyor asked if the balsa extends below the water line or is the boat 
solid glass waterline down?

2. There was a high moisture content found in the bow area, starboard side 
below the waterline just below the chain locker area. Is there a water tank 
there or could this be wet balsa?

3. There was a very high moisture content all around the shaft log (where the 
propeller shaft protrudes) - Does anyone know why that would be?

4. There was slightly elevated moisture around the anchor windlass and foot 
pedals. Was an electric windlass a standard install on a C&C44 or could this 
moisture be due to someone cutting a hole themselves without isolating the core?

Thanks everyone, sorry, I know this was a little longer but It'd be great to 
know what I'm dealing with! :)

Dan

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Dan 
mailto:dgcorm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry if this was sent twice - the first time I tried it I was not registered 
but had no responses...

I'm looking at a 1986 C&C 44 to buy. Before I get into paying for a survey to 
check the core out with a moisture meter I'm wondering if any 44 owners out 
there have had any problems with wet core? - when you remove through hull 
fittings is the core isolated with solid glass to prevent egress or can you 
visibly see the balsa core layer?

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Re: Stus-List Night Racing Photos

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

The moon shot is nice!

From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of RANDY via CnC-List 
[cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: July 11, 2017 2:04 AM
To: cnc-list
Cc: RANDY
Subject: Stus-List Night Racing Photos

Listers-

Colorado Sail & Yacht Club held its annual Fugawi night race Saturday night in 
the full moon.  In case you're interested I added two photos to the end of 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTVnJfSm9lRnZNa1E.  One shows the 
raft-up beforehand from a drone's perspective; Grenadine is third from right, 
with the tallest mast.  In the other one, someone captured Grenadine's 
spinnaker casting a moon shadow, which was kind of a cool shot.  It's a bit 
blurry, but that's how I was seeing things at the time, too - lots of Captain 
Randy's Famous Rum Punch consumed :)

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

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