Re: Stus-List PFD sale

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

I got 2 myself. Great price. 


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Rebecca Leah LF39 
 Original message From: "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" 
 Date: 11/1/17  21:58  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Matthew L. Wolford"  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List PFD sale 



Figured out the coupon code issue.  My apologies.  Thanks for the 
heads-up.


 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 10:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List PFD sale
 




We have 2 of these.

This week the Defender 1st 
exclusive offer is an incredible value.  The
USCG approved Crewsaver 
Crewfit 35 Sport Inflatable PFDs are available
in both manual and 
automatic models. They incorporate Crewsaver's
"Fusion" 3D technology, so 
the PFD molds to the shape of your body.  Its
form-fitting neckline 
offers complete freedom of movement and maximizes
comfort. These life 
jackets feature 35 lbs. of buoyancy. The built-in,
unique chin support keeps 
your head tilted back so airways remain clear.
Its bladder will turn you 
on your back, and support your head. The
Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport can be fitted with a personal 
AIS device for
added safety, and all lifejackets include a light 
attachment point,
which is essential if you are making a long voyage or 
night passage.

The Crewsaver Crewfit 35 
Sport Inflatable PFDs are available in (3)
colors: Red, Blue and 
Navy.

Hurry! This offer is limited to stock on hand, so get 
yours while
supplies last!

Check out all the details 
and get the AC code at the link below.

Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport 
USCG Inflatable PFD Manual Activation:
$34.99. (Special Buy Price: $74.99, Regularly: $119.99, 
List: $149.99)

Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport 
USCG Inflatable PFD Automatic Activation:
$39.99 (Special Buy Price: 
$79.99, Regularly: $131.99, List: $165.99)

Special ends: November 7, 2017 at 11:59 PM ET

Get the special price and learn more at:
http://www.defender.com/activecaptain.jsp

Wow, you will not find a great price like anywhere. 
Ensure your crew is
safe, you can't afford not to. But hurry supplies are 
limited.

 -- 

Joel 
301 541 8551


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Re: Stus-List PFD sale

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Figured out the coupon code issue.  My apologies.  Thanks for the heads-up.

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 10:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List PFD sale



We have 2 of these.


This week the Defender 1st exclusive offer is an incredible value.  The
USCG approved Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport Inflatable PFDs are available
in both manual and automatic models. They incorporate Crewsaver's
"Fusion" 3D technology, so the PFD molds to the shape of your body.  Its
form-fitting neckline offers complete freedom of movement and maximizes
comfort. These life jackets feature 35 lbs. of buoyancy. The built-in,
unique chin support keeps your head tilted back so airways remain clear.
Its bladder will turn you on your back, and support your head. The
Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport can be fitted with a personal AIS device for
added safety, and all lifejackets include a light attachment point,
which is essential if you are making a long voyage or night passage.

The Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport Inflatable PFDs are available in (3)
colors: Red, Blue and Navy.

Hurry! This offer is limited to stock on hand, so get yours while
supplies last!

Check out all the details and get the AC code at the link below.

Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport USCG Inflatable PFD Manual Activation:
$34.99. (Special Buy Price: $74.99, Regularly: $119.99, List: $149.99)

Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport USCG Inflatable PFD Automatic Activation:
$39.99 (Special Buy Price: $79.99, Regularly: $131.99, List: $165.99)

Special ends: November 7, 2017 at 11:59 PM ET

Get the special price and learn more at:
http://www.defender.com/activecaptain.jsp

Wow, you will not find a great price like anywhere. Ensure your crew is
safe, you can't afford not to. But hurry supplies are limited.


-- 

Joel 
301 541 8551



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Re: Stus-List PFD sale

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I tried the link, which lists the price as you state.  However, when I add the 
PFDs to the cart, I get the $74.99 price.

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 10:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List PFD sale



We have 2 of these.


This week the Defender 1st exclusive offer is an incredible value.  The
USCG approved Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport Inflatable PFDs are available
in both manual and automatic models. They incorporate Crewsaver's
"Fusion" 3D technology, so the PFD molds to the shape of your body.  Its
form-fitting neckline offers complete freedom of movement and maximizes
comfort. These life jackets feature 35 lbs. of buoyancy. The built-in,
unique chin support keeps your head tilted back so airways remain clear.
Its bladder will turn you on your back, and support your head. The
Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport can be fitted with a personal AIS device for
added safety, and all lifejackets include a light attachment point,
which is essential if you are making a long voyage or night passage.

The Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport Inflatable PFDs are available in (3)
colors: Red, Blue and Navy.

Hurry! This offer is limited to stock on hand, so get yours while
supplies last!

Check out all the details and get the AC code at the link below.

Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport USCG Inflatable PFD Manual Activation:
$34.99. (Special Buy Price: $74.99, Regularly: $119.99, List: $149.99)

Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport USCG Inflatable PFD Automatic Activation:
$39.99 (Special Buy Price: $79.99, Regularly: $131.99, List: $165.99)

Special ends: November 7, 2017 at 11:59 PM ET

Get the special price and learn more at:
http://www.defender.com/activecaptain.jsp

Wow, you will not find a great price like anywhere. Ensure your crew is
safe, you can't afford not to. But hurry supplies are limited.


-- 

Joel 
301 541 8551



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Re: Stus-List Check stays for baby stay?

[Charles Nelson via CnC-List]

Great analysis of the forces on the various stays Chuck. 

When I ordered my C&C I liked the idea of so many ways  to adjust my mast 
feeling it would be 'fast'. In practice not so much--getting a 155 around the 
baby stay chewed up the sail and was slow--not to mention temporarily removing 
the baby stay when going downwind with a kite. 

Although my mast is 'bendy'--definitely not an aluminum telephone pole, when my 
sailmaker(who in a former life crewed on an Americas Cup boat ) suggested that 
with spreaders that are perpendicular to the centerline (not swept aft) I could 
remove it, I agreed and took it off. Since my mast remains 'bendy', I did not 
remove the check stays which I rely on, with the adjustable back stay, to 
stabilize the mast fore and aft against 'pumping' in that plane.
I am not an expert, naval architect, etc. and I think Rob Ball designed very 
fast boats, including the 37/40 and it's down-sized cousin, the 36 XR/XL/+ 
series of the early 90s.

However, I also think that the baby stay and check stays may have been kept on 
the 36 XL (and maybe the 36+) as a marketing tool to entice novices like myself 
to believe that with all those stays, the boat should be faster than it's 
similarly sized racer/cruiser competitors of the time such as the Sabre 36-2 
and others. 

In fact it probably is faster than those boats-- mine certainly is even without 
the baby stay.

In any case, for the way and where I use my boat, any speed increase provided 
by the baby stay, even with a main designed for using a baby stay, is 
relatively marginal compared to the hassle of using it.

My that's my story and I'm sticking to it--FWIW!!

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom 
1995 C&C 36XL/kcb

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'll bite since I have owned a 34R now for 15 years with runners and 
> checkstays. They are a PITA. So is a Baby Stay and that's why you won't find 
> them on modern designs. Baby Stays went out of vogue in the 80's with most 
> designers except C&C who kept them longer than anyone else. To be honest, I 
> bought my boat because it had runners and checkstays and I wanted to learn 
> all I could about making a sailboat go fast. I don't regret it. 
> 
> Runners and Checkstays make a difference but I wouldn't add them to an 
> existing design. They complicate the mast with so many anchor points and the 
> deck too, requiring another set of winches or heavy duty purchases. Research 
> has shown me that the forces on the runner block and deck anchor point are 
> close to the breaking strength of the backstay. This requires large expensive 
> blocks and beefy anchor points on deck w heavy backing plates to spread the 
> loads properly. 
> 
> Harken has some great spreadsheets on this but if memory serves, my "end of 
> boom" mainsheet load is around 600# max. I have a 5:1 course with a 20:1 fine 
> tune. The halyards are 1500# max. The genoa sheet is about the same1500 to 
> 2000#. The #3 jib sheet in 40 knots of wind is 3000# plus. While the runner 
> is closer to 1#. 
> 
> BTW, the highest load for running gear for a typical sloop is the #3 jib 
> sheet in high winds. The highest load for a sailboat with a bowsprit will be 
> the bobstay, which is many times higher than the backstay. It's all physics.
> 
>> On November 1, 2017 at 3:34 PM jacob fuerst via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Furthering the baby stay thread, has anyone considered replacing the baby 
>> stay with check stays? Still controls the mast pump, more versatile, 
>> adjustable from the cockpit, and it gets the baby stay out of they way. I 
>> could be way off base here. Thoughts?
>> 
>> Jacob Fuerst
>> 303-520-4669
>> Ventura, CA
>> '78 C&C 36
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Re: Stus-List Check stays for baby stay?

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

I'll bite since I have owned a 34R now for 15 years with runners and 
checkstays. They are a PITA. So is a Baby Stay and that's why you won't find 
them on modern designs. Baby Stays went out of vogue in the 80's with most 
designers except C&C who kept them longer than anyone else. To be honest, I 
bought my boat because it had runners and checkstays and I wanted to learn all 
I could about making a sailboat go fast. I don't regret it.

Runners and Checkstays make a difference but I wouldn't add them to an existing 
design. They complicate the mast with so many anchor points and the deck too, 
requiring another set of winches or heavy duty purchases. Research has shown me 
that the forces on the runner block and deck anchor point are close to the 
breaking strength of the backstay. This requires large expensive blocks and 
beefy anchor points on deck w heavy backing plates to spread the loads properly.

Harken has some great spreadsheets on this but if memory serves, my "end of 
boom" mainsheet load is around 600# max. I have a 5:1 course with a 20:1 fine 
tune. The halyards are 1500# max. The genoa sheet is about the same1500 to 
2000#. The #3 jib sheet in 40 knots of wind is 3000# plus. While the runner is 
closer to 1#.

BTW, the highest load for running gear for a typical sloop is the #3 jib sheet 
in high winds. The highest load for a sailboat with a bowsprit will be the 
bobstay, which is many times higher than the backstay. It's all physics.


> On November 1, 2017 at 3:34 PM jacob fuerst via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Furthering the baby stay thread, has anyone considered replacing the baby 
> stay with check stays? Still controls the mast pump, more versatile, 
> adjustable from the cockpit, and it gets the baby stay out of they way. I 
> could be way off base here. Thoughts?
> 
> Jacob Fuerst
> 303-520-4669
> Ventura, CA
> '78 C&C 36
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Re: Stus-List Check stays for baby stay?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

The thing about the baby stay is that it induces bend aft--pulling the
center of the mast forward--which is good. Check stays will bend the center
of the mast aft, which is very bad. I could see having both, but if I was
to only have one--which I do--I would go for a baby stay.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:34 PM, jacob fuerst via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Furthering the baby stay thread, has anyone considered replacing the baby
> stay with check stays? Still controls the mast pump, more versatile,
> adjustable from the cockpit, and it gets the baby stay out of they way. I
> could be way off base here. Thoughts?
>
> Jacob Fuerst
> 303-520-4669 <(303)%20520-4669>
> Ventura, CA
> '78 C&C 36
>
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Stus-List 110 Owners Group

[Stu via CnC-List]

I have just been informed that there is a fairly active Facebook Group for
110 C&C Yachts Owners.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/206427463229026/

Stu


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Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

And all of it has 10 year warranty 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would consider replacing the whole thing with Garhauer. I am happy with a 
> boat full of that stuff.
>  
> Gary
> 30-1
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick 
> G Street via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:25 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Frederick G Street 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts
>  
> Back when I owned my 30mkI (hard to believe it’s over a dozen years ago…), I 
> replaced the whole traveller with Ronstan.  It worked well.
>  
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>  
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
> I have a Nicro-Fico X-Track traveller on my 1979 30 mk1. The adjustable track 
> stops are now virtually non-adjustable, because the spring-pin mechanism has 
> corroded. I have tried to order replacements from RigRite on a number of 
> occasions. They always seem to be back-ordered. I'm now wondering if that is 
> a euphemism.
>  
> Has anyone tried using Ronstan Series 22 parts with this traveller?
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Derek Kennedy
> 1979 C&C 30 mk1- Tortuga
> Ballantyne's Cove, NS
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Stus-List Check stays for baby stay?

[jacob fuerst via CnC-List]

Furthering the baby stay thread, has anyone considered replacing the baby
stay with check stays? Still controls the mast pump, more versatile,
adjustable from the cockpit, and it gets the baby stay out of they way. I
could be way off base here. Thoughts?

Jacob Fuerst
303-520-4669
Ventura, CA
'78 C&C 36
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Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I’ve mentioned this before: I like the Schaefer traveler that I installed on my 
42.  Very robust, but operates smoothly and easily.

From: Rod Stright via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 2:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Rod Stright 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

I’d go with Garhauer, excellent quality and good prices

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: November-01-17 2:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

 

Back when I owned my 30mkI (hard to believe it’s over a dozen years ago…), I 
replaced the whole traveller with Ronstan.  It worked well.

 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

  On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List  
wrote:

   

  I have a Nicro-Fico X-Track traveller on my 1979 30 mk1. The adjustable track 
stops are now virtually non-adjustable, because the spring-pin mechanism has 
corroded. I have tried to order replacements from RigRite on a number of 
occasions. They always seem to be back-ordered. I'm now wondering if that is a 
euphemism.

   

  Has anyone tried using Ronstan Series 22 parts with this traveller?

   

  Thanks

   

  Derek Kennedy

  1979 C&C 30 mk1- Tortuga

  Ballantyne's Cove, NS


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Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I had an A-4 on my C&C 34 and had the alternator rebuilt by a local shop. 
Worked great -- no issues.


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Wooden via CnC-List

Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 2:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Wooden
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices

I have an old A-4...  Alternator failed a couple of years ago (might have
just been the built in voltage regulator as it overcharged greatly).

I had it rebuilt and the rebuilder assured me that he rebuilt to the marine
standard.  He also noted that it was a very standard alternator available
for $50 new for a Chevy; but not with the marine rating.  As I recall,
rebuild was about $80 and I have been very happy.  There are lots of
rebuilders out there.

Bob Wooden
C&C 27 Mk 3 - Rhapsody
In the barn near Holland, MI






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Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

He was wrong. The GM product that fits an A4 is the 10si series and they are 
available in marine versions for under $100, but they are not stock on A4s. A4s 
used 35 or 50 amp Motorola alternators.

Joe
Coquina

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert 
Wooden via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 2:45 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Wooden 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices

I have an old A-4...  Alternator failed a couple of years ago (might have
just been the built in voltage regulator as it overcharged greatly).  

I had it rebuilt and the rebuilder assured me that he rebuilt to the marine
standard.  He also noted that it was a very standard alternator available
for $50 new for a Chevy; but not with the marine rating.  As I recall,
rebuild was about $80 and I have been very happy.  There are lots of
rebuilders out there.

Bob Wooden
C&C 27 Mk 3 - Rhapsody
In the barn near Holland, MI


 



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Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Mike,

They had one for my 44!  Thanks!!

Joel

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Mike Macdonald via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Try HMP in Toronto
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Back when I owned my 30mkI (hard to believe it’s over a dozen years ago…),
> I replaced the whole traveller with Ronstan.  It worked well.
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I have a Nicro-Fico X-Track traveller on my 1979 30 mk1. The adjustable
> track stops are now virtually non-adjustable, because the spring-pin
> mechanism has corroded. I have tried to order replacements from RigRite on
> a number of occasions. They always seem to be back-ordered. I'm now
> wondering if that is a euphemism.
>
> Has anyone tried using Ronstan Series 22 parts with this traveller?
>
> Thanks
>
> Derek Kennedy
> 1979 C&C 30 mk1- Tortuga
> Ballantyne's Cove, NS
>
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Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices

[Robert Wooden via CnC-List]

I have an old A-4...  Alternator failed a couple of years ago (might have
just been the built in voltage regulator as it overcharged greatly).  

I had it rebuilt and the rebuilder assured me that he rebuilt to the marine
standard.  He also noted that it was a very standard alternator available
for $50 new for a Chevy; but not with the marine rating.  As I recall,
rebuild was about $80 and I have been very happy.  There are lots of
rebuilders out there.

Bob Wooden
C&C 27 Mk 3 - Rhapsody
In the barn near Holland, MI


 



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Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I would consider replacing the whole thing with Garhauer. I am happy with a 
boat full of that stuff.

 

Gary

30-1

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

 

Back when I owned my 30mkI (hard to believe it’s over a dozen years ago…), I 
replaced the whole traveller with Ronstan.  It worked well.

 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

I have a Nicro-Fico X-Track traveller on my 1979 30 mk1. The adjustable track 
stops are now virtually non-adjustable, because the spring-pin mechanism has 
corroded. I have tried to order replacements from RigRite on a number of 
occasions. They always seem to be back-ordered. I'm now wondering if that is a 
euphemism.

 

Has anyone tried using Ronstan Series 22 parts with this traveller?

 

Thanks

 

Derek Kennedy

1979 C&C 30 mk1- Tortuga

Ballantyne's Cove, NS

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[Mike Macdonald via CnC-List]

Try HMP in Toronto 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Back when I owned my 30mkI (hard to believe it’s over a dozen years ago…), I 
> replaced the whole traveller with Ronstan.  It worked well.
> 
> ― Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have a Nicro-Fico X-Track traveller on my 1979 30 mk1. The adjustable 
>> track stops are now virtually non-adjustable, because the spring-pin 
>> mechanism has corroded. I have tried to order replacements from RigRite on a 
>> number of occasions. They always seem to be back-ordered. I'm now wondering 
>> if that is a euphemism.
>> 
>> Has anyone tried using Ronstan Series 22 parts with this traveller?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Derek Kennedy
>> 1979 C&C 30 mk1- Tortuga
>> Ballantyne's Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

I’d go with Garhauer, excellent quality and good prices



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: November-01-17 2:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts



Back when I owned my 30mkI (hard to believe it’s over a dozen years ago…), I 
replaced the whole traveller with Ronstan.  It worked well.



— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(



On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:



I have a Nicro-Fico X-Track traveller on my 1979 30 mk1. The adjustable track 
stops are now virtually non-adjustable, because the spring-pin mechanism has 
corroded. I have tried to order replacements from RigRite on a number of 
occasions. They always seem to be back-ordered. I'm now wondering if that is a 
euphemism.



Has anyone tried using Ronstan Series 22 parts with this traveller?



Thanks



Derek Kennedy

1979 C&C 30 mk1- Tortuga

Ballantyne's Cove, NS



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Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

There is that, you need the ignition-protected version. Given the prevalence of 
propane on newer C&Cs, I wouldn’t use a non-marine alternator on a diesel 
either.
YMMV

I had the stock Motorola, then I got a marine version 110 amp 10si that got a 
bad bearing, and finally got a 65 amp Balmar that is the best of the bunch. 
Install details here: 
http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10322&highlight=balmar
Joe
Coquina

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gmail via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Bina - gmail 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices


The point is that not all alternators are safe for use with gasoline present. 
Mounting is a very secondary consideration! :-)

Bill Bina

On 11/1/2017 1:11 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:
The 2 inch single-foot alternator mount on A4s is very easy to source, tons of 
gas and diesel inboards use it, not to mention cars.



Joe Della Barba
Coquina




From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina - 
gmail via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 10:48 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Bina - gmail 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices


Unless, like many on this list, you have an engine that uses gasoline!

Bill Bina

On 11/1/2017 10:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:
FYI there are only about 3 ways to mount alternators on small engines. There is 
NO reason to stick to OEM branded alternators.
Joe
Coquina




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Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I've been looking for a Fico traveller car for my 44.  RigRite wanted 1300
for one.  Garhauer will replace the track and car for 750.

I also checked with a dealer in Australia.  He said the Ronstan track was
different (but I have a heavier track than you).

Joel

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Back when I owned my 30mkI (hard to believe it’s over a dozen years ago…),
> I replaced the whole traveller with Ronstan.  It worked well.
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I have a Nicro-Fico X-Track traveller on my 1979 30 mk1. The adjustable
> track stops are now virtually non-adjustable, because the spring-pin
> mechanism has corroded. I have tried to order replacements from RigRite on
> a number of occasions. They always seem to be back-ordered. I'm now
> wondering if that is a euphemism.
>
> Has anyone tried using Ronstan Series 22 parts with this traveller?
>
> Thanks
>
> Derek Kennedy
> 1979 C&C 30 mk1- Tortuga
> Ballantyne's Cove, NS
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Back when I owned my 30mkI (hard to believe it’s over a dozen years ago…), I 
replaced the whole traveller with Ronstan.  It worked well.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a Nicro-Fico X-Track traveller on my 1979 30 mk1. The adjustable track 
> stops are now virtually non-adjustable, because the spring-pin mechanism has 
> corroded. I have tried to order replacements from RigRite on a number of 
> occasions. They always seem to be back-ordered. I'm now wondering if that is 
> a euphemism.
> 
> Has anyone tried using Ronstan Series 22 parts with this traveller?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Derek Kennedy
> 1979 C&C 30 mk1- Tortuga
> Ballantyne's Cove, NS
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[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

The point is that not all alternators are safe for use with gasoline 
present. Mounting is a very secondary consideration! :-)


Bill Bina


On 11/1/2017 1:11 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:


The 2 inch single-foot alternator mount on A4s is very easy to source, 
tons of gas and diesel inboards use it, not to mention cars.


*/Joe Della Barba/*

Coquina

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List

*Sent:* Wednesday, November 01, 2017 10:48 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices

Unless, like many on this list, you have an engine that uses gasoline!

Bill Bina

On 11/1/2017 10:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:

FYI there are only about 3 ways to mount alternators on small
engines. There is NO reason to stick to OEM branded alternators.

Joe

Coquina




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Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

The 2 inch single-foot alternator mount on A4s is very easy to source, tons of 
gas and diesel inboards use it, not to mention cars.



Joe Della Barba
Coquina




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gmail via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 10:48 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Bina - gmail 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices


Unless, like many on this list, you have an engine that uses gasoline!

Bill Bina

On 11/1/2017 10:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:
FYI there are only about 3 ways to mount alternators on small engines. There is 
NO reason to stick to OEM branded alternators.
Joe
Coquina



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Stus-List Nicro-Fico 599-600 traveller parts

[Tortuga via CnC-List]

I have a Nicro-Fico X-Track traveller on my 1979 30 mk1. The adjustable
track stops are now virtually non-adjustable, because the spring-pin
mechanism has corroded. I have tried to order replacements from RigRite on
a number of occasions. They always seem to be back-ordered. I'm now
wondering if that is a euphemism.

Has anyone tried using Ronstan Series 22 parts with this traveller?

Thanks

Derek Kennedy
1979 C&C 30 mk1- Tortuga
Ballantyne's Cove, NS
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[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Unless, like many on this list, you have an engine that uses gasoline!

Bill Bina


On 11/1/2017 10:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:


FYI there are only about 3 ways to mount alternators on small engines. 
There is NO reason to stick to OEM branded alternators.


Joe

Coquina




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FYI there are only about 3 ways to mount alternators on small engines. There is 
NO reason to stick to OEM branded alternators.
Joe
Coquina


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Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 10:02 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices

Jack,

I buy a lot of boat stuff off Amazon.  Usually cheaper than Defender or 
Fawcetts.  If Prime, free shipping.
When I needed a hot water heater I googled the part number and found the exact 
unit at an RV store for $50 less than any chandlery.  Money is finite!

Joel

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have a new 30-amp that I bought for my 3hm and never used.

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Oct 31, 2017, at 19:22, Jack Brennan via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

So here’s a cautionary tale on buying diesel parts:

The bearings went bad on the alternator on my Yanmar 2gm20f. This is an 
alternator once made by Hitachi that used to run about $120 or so. Yanmar would 
rebrand them and sell the units as its own for many dollars more.

I did an Internet search and discovered Hitachi apparently no longer makes 
these alternators. The good news (I think)): Some nameless offshore company is 
manufacturing replacements. Companies are selling them as their own (most with 
the same stock photo) for $70 to $130.

So, before ordering, I call my local Yanmar dealers to see whether he has it in 
stock and whether I can do my bit to keep him solvent by buying from him.

Sure, we have them, the saleswoman says. Yanmar brand: $850. I choke and ask 
about aftermarket: $400. Remanufactured? $210. I end up saying sorry, but I can 
have it delivered to my door in four days for $79.

All of my customer loyalty went out the window with those kinds of markups on 
an alternator that sells for maybe $30 wholesale.  Now I’m wondering whether I 
can buy my filters, impellers, hoses, etc., at a deep discount by shopping 
online.

Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.









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Stus-List PFD sale

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We have 2 of these.

This week the Defender 1st exclusive offer is an incredible value.  The
USCG approved Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport Inflatable PFDs are available
in both manual and automatic models. They incorporate Crewsaver's
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form-fitting neckline offers complete freedom of movement and maximizes
comfort. These life jackets feature 35 lbs. of buoyancy. The built-in,
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Its bladder will turn you on your back, and support your head. The
Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport can be fitted with a personal AIS device for
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The Crewsaver Crewfit 35 Sport Inflatable PFDs are available in (3)
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Hurry! This offer is limited to stock on hand, so get yours while
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Re: Stus-List Wild alternator prices

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Jack,

I buy a lot of boat stuff off Amazon.  Usually cheaper than Defender or
Fawcetts.  If Prime, free shipping.
When I needed a hot water heater I googled the part number and found the
exact unit at an RV store for $50 less than any chandlery.  Money is finite!

Joel

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have a new 30-amp that I bought for my 3hm and never used.
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Oct 31, 2017, at 19:22, Jack Brennan via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> So here’s a cautionary tale on buying diesel parts:
>
> The bearings went bad on the alternator on my Yanmar 2gm20f. This is an
> alternator once made by Hitachi that used to run about $120 or so. Yanmar
> would rebrand them and sell the units as its own for many dollars more.
>
> I did an Internet search and discovered Hitachi apparently no longer makes
> these alternators. The good news (I think)): Some nameless offshore company
> is manufacturing replacements. Companies are selling them as their own
> (most with the same stock photo) for $70 to $130.
>
> So, before ordering, I call my local Yanmar dealers to see whether he has
> it in stock and whether I can do my bit to keep him solvent by buying from
> him.
>
> Sure, we have them, the saleswoman says. Yanmar brand: $850. I choke and
> ask about aftermarket: $400. Remanufactured? $210. I end up saying sorry,
> but I can have it delivered to my door in four days for $79.
>
> All of my customer loyalty went out the window with those kinds of markups
> on an alternator that sells for maybe $30 wholesale.  Now I’m wondering
> whether I can buy my filters, impellers, hoses, etc., at a deep discount by
> shopping online.
>
> Jack Brennan
> Former C&C 25
> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Lost at sea...um , yeah

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

This is the old out-of-gas trick ROFLMAO
(A long time ago we took some damage in a hurricane and it took a few days to 
get the boat going again. My friend’s girlfriend was on here first sailing trip 
and over the barely readable radio connection it sounded like her parents 
suspected similar. The girl in question had no idea this wasn’t a routine event 
and had a great time)

Joe
Coquina
My wife is too smart to fall for this and is handy with the electrical fly 
shocker


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Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 8:59 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lost at sea...um , yeah

After discussing this with my wife, her take on it was that the blond enticed 
the other woman (non sailor) into taking the voyage with the notion of a 
romantic escape.  When it turned out to be somewhat different than all fun and 
relaxation, the communication devices went inoperative and the boat became 
mysteriously un-sailable (rigging damage, etc).  So in effect, a kidnapping.   
I think when authorities start interviewing both parties separately, the 
non-sailor may not have the same enthusiasm about returning to sea with Ms. 
Appel in the future.  And as with most everything, my wife’s intuition about 
being trapped on a boat would be spot on.  She’s certainly felt that way on our 
boat before (seasick, 3 months pregnant, in 4-6’ quartering seas..”It’s OK 
honey, it will just be for a couple more hours..”).

Chuck “Captain Bligh” Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA

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I couldn't agree more. There is deffenetly something fishy here. Nothing adds 
up.



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Rebecca Leah
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I almost think that we give them too much attention

Marek


Indeed. I was at the dentist today and when I mentioned I'm into sailing, the 
dental hygienist asked if I had heard of the two lost sailors. And that 
apparently they had some electronic gizmo ("epirb" I said).

When your dental hygienist has heard of them but probably never heard of 
Clipper, America's Cup, or Slocum, it's definitely a bit ridiculous (how easily 
manipulated the media and public attention are).

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Re: Stus-List Lost at sea...um , yeah

[mike amirault via CnC-List]

Here's a link to CBC's story.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/lost-at-sea-women-dogs-1.4379649

Looks like you guys are onto something.

 

Mike Amirault

Lovely Cruise

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[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

After discussing this with my wife, her take on it was that the blond enticed 
the other woman (non sailor) into taking the voyage with the notion of a 
romantic escape.  When it turned out to be somewhat different than all fun and 
relaxation, the communication devices went inoperative and the boat became 
mysteriously un-sailable (rigging damage, etc).  So in effect, a kidnapping.   
I think when authorities start interviewing both parties separately, the 
non-sailor may not have the same enthusiasm about returning to sea with Ms. 
Appel in the future.  And as with most everything, my wife’s intuition about 
being trapped on a boat would be spot on.  She’s certainly felt that way on our 
boat before (seasick, 3 months pregnant, in 4-6’ quartering seas..”It’s OK 
honey, it will just be for a couple more hours..”).

 

Chuck “Captain Bligh” Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall

Padanaram, MA

 

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I couldn't agree more. There is deffenetly something fishy here. Nothing adds 
up. 

 

 

 

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Doug Mountjoy 

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I almost think that we give them too much attention

 

Marek

 

 

Indeed. I was at the dentist today and when I mentioned I'm into sailing, the 
dental hygienist asked if I had heard of the two lost sailors. And that 
apparently they had some electronic gizmo ("epirb" I said). 

 

When your dental hygienist has heard of them but probably never heard of 
Clipper, America's Cup, or Slocum, it's definitely a bit ridiculous (how easily 
manipulated the media and public attention are). 

 

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