Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Dan,

 

That sounds pretty normal for a leaky seal to not hold pressure.  It’s odd that 
you leaked so much fluid though.  The backstay is the highest part of the 
system.  I would think that the pressure would eventually leak down to zero and 
then stop leaking altogether.

 

I’ve had my seals replaced before.  Cheap and easy fix.  I’ve also noticed that 
if you keep the top seal covered, it lasts longer.  Some folks use a foam can 
holder for this, although it doesn’t look that great.  Keeping the seal out of 
the sun will keep it lasting longer.

 

Jake

 

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA



 

 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dan via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 23:18
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan 
Subject: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

 

Hey everyone,

I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low as 
-19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal with 
a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics exposed to 
the harsh cold environment?

 

Thanks,

 

Dan

Breakaweigh

C&C44

Halifax, NS

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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[David via CnC-List]

Bring it a hydraulic shop that fixes trucks.  Much much cheaper than a navico 
shop

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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:18:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan
Subject: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

Hey everyone,
I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low as 
-19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal with 
a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics exposed to 
the harsh cold environment?

Thanks,

Dan
Breakaweigh
C&C44
Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Defender Sale

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Chuck,

Thanks for the reminder.  Hope it is worth the trip for you.

Joel

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 3:48 PM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Come Wind, Rain, and Snow, Defender’s annual warehouse sale starts this
> afternoon online and will run all weekend at their facility in Waterford,
> Ct.  I’ll be there representing my company Novatec Braids (Novabraid Rope)
> from Yarmouth, NS and there will be a myriad of other factory reps on hand
> to answer questions and give recommendations on everything from
> refrigeration to anchor chain to foul weather gear and more.  I was told by
> one of the GM’s at Defender that in celebration of their 80th year in
> business, the normal discount for virtually every item in the store has
> been increased from 7-10% in past years up to 20% for the sale.  Thursday
> is typically mobbed at the warehouse, but I suspect that the weather is
> going to keep more than a few folks at home.
>
> Should you be in the area, it is truly worth stopping by if for no other
> reason than to peruse the clothing selection.  I’ve bought a brand new
> Henri Lloyd Dry Suit (for dinghy racing) there for $150 when the regular
> retail was well over $500.  Item such a bottom paint, brushes, fenders,
> electronics, close outs on radios and speakers, and the largest inflatable
> boat assortment in the country very  aggressively priced.
>
> Stop by and ask for me in the rope and cut goods area.  Would love to talk
> C&Cs with anyone interested..  Put the SUV in 4WD and bash through the
> drifts to go shopping for the boat!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V Half Magic
>
> 1983 35 Landfall
>
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Daniel Cormier via CnC-List]

Will do- thanks guys, I'm glad it's only a regular maintenance thing :)

Dan

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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:18 AM, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
> and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low 
> as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal 
> with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics 
> exposed to the harsh cold environment?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Dan- I have Sailtec backstay that is completely self contained. 
 The factory told me to bring it inside in the winter and store it vertically. 
Something to consider once yours is repaired. 



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On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:21 AM -0500, "Daniel Cormier via CnC-List" 
 wrote:










Will do- thanks guys, I'm glad it's only a regular maintenance thing :)

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:18 AM, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
> and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low 
> as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal 
> with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics 
> exposed to the harsh cold environment?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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Stus-List Old style aluminum frame portlight gasket

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Almost time to replace the lenses in Touche's old style aluminum frame
portlights.  The "D" shape EDPM inner seal is easy to find at big box
stores.

However, I can only find the gray outer gasket at Holland Marine for
$5/foot.  Gaskets for newer hatches at hatchmasters.com (Select Plastics
site) are in the same price range.  Internet search reveals some that are
close but not exact.

I can reuse the old gasket and have some old gasket if need be.  However,
I'd like to find another source for the gasket at a reasonable price.

Some on the list claim it's a readily available storm door or window gasket
or such.   I've taken a sample of the gasket to several glass shops and
door repair places in my area with no luck at all.

Can anybody find a manufacturer, supplier or part number for the exact
replacement gasket?  Has anybody found a similar gasket that worked?  If
so, what is part number?  There's a lot of us that would like that
information.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Thomas Delaney via CnC-List]

Hi listers,

I'm planning on buying new sheets during the Defender Sale. We're a novice
club-racing boat most of the time, but also do short trips around western
long island sound.

I've got old polyester core/cover sheets now, and will continue using them
with my cruising headsails, but I'm thinking of getting Samson XLS Extra-T
in the same diameter as i have now (3/8") to replace the mainsheet, and for
my racing headsails. Is there any other type of line I should consider
before pulling the trigger?

Thanks,
Tom

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C&C 35-1
City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I have always been competitive using double braid polyester line for my
main and jib sheets, not going with the more expensive hi tech line.  I use
7/16" line because it's easier to handle than 3/8".

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi listers,
>
> I'm planning on buying new sheets during the Defender Sale. We're a novice
> club-racing boat most of the time, but also do short trips around western
> long island sound.
>
> I've got old polyester core/cover sheets now, and will continue using them
> with my cruising headsails, but I'm thinking of getting Samson XLS Extra-T
> in the same diameter as i have now (3/8") to replace the mainsheet, and for
> my racing headsails. Is there any other type of line I should consider
> before pulling the trigger?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> ---
> Snow Goose
> C&C 35-1
> City Island, NY
>
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

You could source new seals on McMaster-Carr which will probably be the
cheapest route.

A hydraulic shop will probably have the seals on hand and be able to
install at their hourly rate - second cheapest.

When I sent my Navtec cylinders (2) to Lew Townsend (+1 206-498-7282) at
Sound Rigging in Seattle WA, I didn't exactly expect much more than a
typical hydraulic shop with the exception that it would be done with
authentic Navtec parts.  When he called to tell me that one of my pistons
was bent (out of true) and that he had straightened it, I was surprised.
When he further relayed that he was in the process of polishing the
pistons, I was more shocked.  And then he described having performed a 24
hour pressure drop test.  These interactions reassured me that while he may
not have been the cheapest he was certainly very high quality and high
value.

As a comparison, when I bought the boat, back in May of 2012, the PO was
dismayed by the small ring of oil accumulating around the pistons.  In
frustration he stated that he had just had the cylinders rebuilt at a local
hydraulic shop.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 11:19 PM Dan via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked
> out and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures
> as low as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking
> is normal with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my
> hydraulics exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Old style aluminum frame portlight gasket

[schiller via CnC-List]

Dennis,

When I redid Corsair's portights, I ordered a large window repair kit 
from Southshore.  Came with D gasket and neoprene foam. Pricey, but made 
the job much easier.


Neil Schiller
Old: 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7, Corsair
New: 1983 C&C 35-3, Hull #28, Grace
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 3/22/2018 11:20 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
Almost time to replace the lenses in Touche's old style aluminum frame 
portlights.  The "D" shape EDPM inner seal is easy to find at big box 
stores.


However, I can only find the gray outer gasket at Holland Marine for 
$5/foot.  Gaskets for newer hatches at hatchmasters.com 
 (Select Plastics site) are in the same price 
range.  Internet search reveals some that are close but not exact.


I can reuse the old gasket and have some old gasket if need be.  
However, I'd like to find another source for the gasket at a 
reasonable price.


Some on the list claim it's a readily available storm door or window 
gasket or such. I've taken a sample of the gasket to several glass 
shops and door repair places in my area with no luck at all.


Can anybody find a manufacturer, supplier or part number for the exact 
replacement gasket?  Has anybody found a similar gasket that worked?  
If so, what is part number?  There's a lot of us that would like that 
information.


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Lew Townsend did my hydraulics.  He is very professional, and he does a lot
more than just replacing parts.  I am sure you will not find better quality
work from anyone than you will get from him.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:43 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> You could source new seals on McMaster-Carr which will probably be the
> cheapest route.
>
> A hydraulic shop will probably have the seals on hand and be able to
> install at their hourly rate - second cheapest.
>
> When I sent my Navtec cylinders (2) to Lew Townsend (+1 206-498-7282) at
> Sound Rigging in Seattle WA, I didn't exactly expect much more than a
> typical hydraulic shop with the exception that it would be done with
> authentic Navtec parts.  When he called to tell me that one of my pistons
> was bent (out of true) and that he had straightened it, I was surprised.
> When he further relayed that he was in the process of polishing the
> pistons, I was more shocked.  And then he described having performed a 24
> hour pressure drop test.  These interactions reassured me that while he may
> not have been the cheapest he was certainly very high quality and high
> value.
>
> As a comparison, when I bought the boat, back in May of 2012, the PO was
> dismayed by the small ring of oil accumulating around the pistons.  In
> frustration he stated that he had just had the cylinders rebuilt at a local
> hydraulic shop.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 11:19 PM Dan via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone,
>> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid
>> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs
>> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked
>> out and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures
>> as low as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking
>> is normal with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my
>> hydraulics exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
>> Breakaweigh
>> C&C44
>> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

There is compelling reason to use a single piece of line with an alpine
butterfly knot and a soft shackle to connect to the clew.

https://stingysailor.com/2015/06/27/diy-soft-shackles-for-quick-and-easy-headsail-changes-2/

As for type of line, I'm not convinced that anything high dollar makes
sense.  Sta-set double braid or equivalent is probably fine.  I would only
advise that you keep feel-in-the-hand and workability on your winches in
mind.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Thu, Mar 22, 2018, 11:24 AM Thomas Delaney via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi listers,
>
> I'm planning on buying new sheets during the Defender Sale. We're a novice
> club-racing boat most of the time, but also do short trips around western
> long island sound.
>
> I've got old polyester core/cover sheets now, and will continue using them
> with my cruising headsails, but I'm thinking of getting Samson XLS Extra-T
> in the same diameter as i have now (3/8") to replace the mainsheet, and for
> my racing headsails. Is there any other type of line I should consider
> before pulling the trigger?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> ---
> Snow Goose
> C&C 35-1
> City Island, NY
>
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[jhnelson24 via CnC-List]

Dan,  I think Graham had his done locally here in Halifax. If he doesn't 
respond to the list you might try Thursday night's at compass distillers. He 
has a jazz night there and I believe usually attends.


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Daniel Cormier via CnC-List 
 Date: 2018-03-22  10:18  (GMT-04:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Daniel Cormier  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List hydraulic backstay 
Will do- thanks guys, I'm glad it's only a regular maintenance thing :)

Dan

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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:18 AM, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
> and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low 
> as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal 
> with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics 
> exposed to the harsh cold environment?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Old style aluminum frame portlight gasket

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Hi Dennis

In 2003 I bought the gasket from South Shore Marine.  Actually I even bought 
new (sitting for 30 years) 35 inch aluminum frames as well.  At the time 
someone told me I could have tried an RV supplier for the spline.  That was for 
a Niagara 26 BTW

Mike

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 12:20 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Stus-List Old style aluminum frame portlight gasket

Almost time to replace the lenses in Touche's old style aluminum frame 
portlights.  The "D" shape EDPM inner seal is easy to find at big box stores.

However, I can only find the gray outer gasket at Holland Marine for $5/foot.  
Gaskets for newer hatches at hatchmasters.com (Select 
Plastics site) are in the same price range.  Internet search reveals some that 
are close but not exact.

I can reuse the old gasket and have some old gasket if need be.  However, I'd 
like to find another source for the gasket at a reasonable price.

Some on the list claim it's a readily available storm door or window gasket or 
such.   I've taken a sample of the gasket to several glass shops and door 
repair places in my area with no luck at all.

Can anybody find a manufacturer, supplier or part number for the exact 
replacement gasket?  Has anybody found a similar gasket that worked?  If so, 
what is part number?  There's a lot of us that would like that information.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Wow, We must be getting carried away for using ¾” Stay Set, because we like the 
handling!

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PAanimated_favicon1

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 11:33 AM
To: C&C
Cc: ALAN BERGEN
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

 

I have always been competitive using double braid polyester line for my main 
and jib sheets, not going with the more expensive hi tech line.  I use 7/16" 
line because it's easier to handle than 3/8".




Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

 

 

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi listers,

I'm planning on buying new sheets during the Defender Sale. We're a novice 
club-racing boat most of the time, but also do short trips around western long 
island sound.  

I've got old polyester core/cover sheets now, and will continue using them with 
my cruising headsails, but I'm thinking of getting Samson XLS Extra-T in the 
same diameter as i have now (3/8") to replace the mainsheet, and for my racing 
headsails. Is there any other type of line I should consider before pulling the 
trigger?

Thanks,
Tom

---
Snow Goose
C&C 35-1
City Island, NY

 


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Re: Stus-List US/NOTL manufacturing location identifier?

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

They must have transferred the CCY ID # to RI, because my 73 was made at NOTL 
in 1973 and is CCY

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 7:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest
Subject: Re: Stus-List US/NOTL manufacturing location identifier?

 

My Rhodi Built boat has a manufacturer’s plate in the center of the cockpit 
that says “built in Rhode Island, USA.

1983 build with a CCY HIN.

Chuck Gilchrest 

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall 

Padanaram, MA

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On Mar 21, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Actually, I believe the two prefixes will be ZCC or CCY, generally depending on 
the factory location; ZCC for Niagara-On-The-Lake and CCY for Rhode Island.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(





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 wrote:

 

I believe NOTL boat S/N s on the transom started with 5xx.

 

From: mark graham 

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 3:04 PM

To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com 

Subject: Stus-List US/NOTL manufacturing location identifier?

 

Hi all,  

Brand new to the site. Potentially buying 1984 35 mk III. How do I find out if 
it was built in Niagara on the Lake or in the states?

Thanks, Mark

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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Lots of thoughts on this one.

First, in the interest of candidness, I use 3/8" VPC with an eye on each
end.  I attach EACH sheet to the clew with a soft shackle.  Why?  If I ever
want to do a sail change on the fly, each sheet must be attached
separately.  OK, I'm probably more on the racing end of the spectrum than
most.

Here's the picture (ignore that it's my blown out cruising sail rather than
my nice Mylar/Kelar racing genoa):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsMU9xOXBVd3F5Slk

However, cruiser or racer, you will benefit from soft shackles.  My 35-1,
like yours, has double lower shrouds.  Sheets attached with bowline knots
hang up on the forward lowers.  The difference between bowlines and soft
shackles is significant.  Our 155% genoa now glides through the
foretriangle rather than hanging up.

So, a strong vote for sheets with an eye and soft shackles.  Whether you
use one or two soft shackles is your choice.

Also, why do I put an eye in each end of the sheet?  Simple, at some point
in time you may want to swap ends.

Now, what line?  Do you primarily sail with a 155% genoa?  If so, the the
distance from the clew to the winch is not great.  On Touche' it might be 6
feet.  At 2% stretch, that's 1.5 inches.  However, a 155% is the LEAST
loaded sail.  The foretriangle on a 35-1 is about 320 sq. feet.  155% of
that is about 500 sq. feet.  At 10 knots of breeze, that's about 215 pounds
sheet load.

http://www.harken.com/content.aspx?id=9096

215 pounds of sheet load is only about 5% of 3/8" StaSet's 4400 pound
breaking strength which equates to about 0.7% stretch (
https://www.ropeinc.com/sta-set.htm).  So now 6 feet of sheet will stretch
about 1/2 inch.

If you sail with a 100% jib in 20 knots and 12-14 feet of sheet that's a
whole different scenario and I'd recommend upgrading to a more high tech
line with more strength or to a larger line.  The load goes up to 550
pounds.

Probably too much info but shows you that what seems like a simple decision
is really not.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi listers,
>
> I'm planning on buying new sheets during the Defender Sale. We're a novice
> club-racing boat most of the time, but also do short trips around western
> long island sound.
>
> I've got old polyester core/cover sheets now, and will continue using them
> with my cruising headsails, but I'm thinking of getting Samson XLS Extra-T
> in the same diameter as i have now (3/8") to replace the mainsheet, and for
> my racing headsails. Is there any other type of line I should consider
> before pulling the trigger?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> ---
> Snow Goose
> C&C 35-1
> City Island, NY
>
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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Hi Dennis

Your soft shackle sheet connection looks very interesting.  I wonder if a 
flogging sail during a messy tack might result in a soft shackle releasing.  
Any thoughts?

Thanks

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:03 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

Lots of thoughts on this one.

First, in the interest of candidness, I use 3/8" VPC with an eye on each end.  
I attach EACH sheet to the clew with a soft shackle.  Why?  If I ever want to 
do a sail change on the fly, each sheet must be attached separately.  OK, I'm 
probably more on the racing end of the spectrum than most.

Here's the picture (ignore that it's my blown out cruising sail rather than my 
nice Mylar/Kelar racing genoa):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsMU9xOXBVd3F5Slk

However, cruiser or racer, you will benefit from soft shackles.  My 35-1, like 
yours, has double lower shrouds.  Sheets attached with bowline knots hang up on 
the forward lowers.  The difference between bowlines and soft shackles is 
significant.  Our 155% genoa now glides through the foretriangle rather than 
hanging up.

So, a strong vote for sheets with an eye and soft shackles.  Whether you use 
one or two soft shackles is your choice.

Also, why do I put an eye in each end of the sheet?  Simple, at some point in 
time you may want to swap ends.

Now, what line?  Do you primarily sail with a 155% genoa?  If so, the the 
distance from the clew to the winch is not great.  On Touche' it might be 6 
feet.  At 2% stretch, that's 1.5 inches.  However, a 155% is the LEAST loaded 
sail.  The foretriangle on a 35-1 is about 320 sq. feet.  155% of that is about 
500 sq. feet.  At 10 knots of breeze, that's about 215 pounds sheet load.

http://www.harken.com/content.aspx?id=9096

215 pounds of sheet load is only about 5% of 3/8" StaSet's 4400 pound breaking 
strength which equates to about 0.7% stretch 
(https://www.ropeinc.com/sta-set.htm).  So now 6 feet of sheet will stretch 
about 1/2 inch.

If you sail with a 100% jib in 20 knots and 12-14 feet of sheet that's a whole 
different scenario and I'd recommend upgrading to a more high tech line with 
more strength or to a larger line.  The load goes up to 550 pounds.

Probably too much info but shows you that what seems like a simple decision is 
really not.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi listers,

I'm planning on buying new sheets during the Defender Sale. We're a novice 
club-racing boat most of the time, but also do short trips around western long 
island sound.

I've got old polyester core/cover sheets now, and will continue using them with 
my cruising headsails, but I'm thinking of getting Samson XLS Extra-T in the 
same diameter as i have now (3/8") to replace the mainsheet, and for my racing 
headsails. Is there any other type of line I should consider before pulling the 
trigger?

Thanks,
Tom

---
Snow Goose
C&C 35-1
City Island, NY


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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Not if it is made properly.



Rod



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CnC-List
Sent: March-22-18 3:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?



Hi Dennis



Your soft shackle sheet connection looks very interesting.  I wonder if a 
flogging sail during a messy tack might result in a soft shackle releasing.  
Any thoughts?



Thanks



Mike

Persistence

Halifax



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:03 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?



Lots of thoughts on this one.



First, in the interest of candidness, I use 3/8" VPC with an eye on each end.  
I attach EACH sheet to the clew with a soft shackle.  Why?  If I ever want to 
do a sail change on the fly, each sheet must be attached separately.  OK, I'm 
probably more on the racing end of the spectrum than most.



Here's the picture (ignore that it's my blown out cruising sail rather than my 
nice Mylar/Kelar racing genoa):



https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsMU9xOXBVd3F5Slk



However, cruiser or racer, you will benefit from soft shackles.  My 35-1, like 
yours, has double lower shrouds.  Sheets attached with bowline knots hang up on 
the forward lowers.  The difference between bowlines and soft shackles is 
significant.  Our 155% genoa now glides through the foretriangle rather than 
hanging up.



So, a strong vote for sheets with an eye and soft shackles.  Whether you use 
one or two soft shackles is your choice.



Also, why do I put an eye in each end of the sheet?  Simple, at some point in 
time you may want to swap ends.



Now, what line?  Do you primarily sail with a 155% genoa?  If so, the the 
distance from the clew to the winch is not great.  On Touche' it might be 6 
feet.  At 2% stretch, that's 1.5 inches.  However, a 155% is the LEAST loaded 
sail.  The foretriangle on a 35-1 is about 320 sq. feet.  155% of that is about 
500 sq. feet.  At 10 knots of breeze, that's about 215 pounds sheet load.



http://www.harken.com/content.aspx?id=9096



215 pounds of sheet load is only about 5% of 3/8" StaSet's 4400 pound breaking 
strength which equates to about 0.7% stretch 
(https://www.ropeinc.com/sta-set.htm).  So now 6 feet of sheet will stretch 
about 1/2 inch.



If you sail with a 100% jib in 20 knots and 12-14 feet of sheet that's a whole 
different scenario and I'd recommend upgrading to a more high tech line with 
more strength or to a larger line.  The load goes up to 550 pounds.



Probably too much info but shows you that what seems like a simple decision is 
really not.



Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA



On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hi listers,

I'm planning on buying new sheets during the Defender Sale. We're a novice 
club-racing boat most of the time, but also do short trips around western long 
island sound.

I've got old polyester core/cover sheets now, and will continue using them with 
my cruising headsails, but I'm thinking of getting Samson XLS Extra-T in the 
same diameter as i have now (3/8") to replace the mainsheet, and for my racing 
headsails. Is there any other type of line I should consider before pulling the 
trigger?

Thanks,
Tom

---
Snow Goose
C&C 35-1
City Island, NY




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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

My opinion, soft shackle release is highly unlikely.  I've never heard of
one.  Been using them for 4-5 years now.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Dennis
>
>
>
> Your soft shackle sheet connection looks very interesting.  I wonder if a
> flogging sail during a messy tack might result in a soft shackle
> releasing.  Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

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Hey Bill

We use 5/5 to 3/4 inch line on Honey based on the sail used and wind
conditions. The only 3/8" line on Honey are the light air spinnaker sheets.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY
US12788
Savannah, GA
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On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
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> Wow, We must be getting carried away for using ¾” Stay Set, because we
> like the handling!
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 Erie, PA[image: animated_favicon1]
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *ALAN
> BERGEN via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 11:33 AM
> *To:* C&C
> *Cc:* ALAN BERGEN
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?
>
>
>
> I have always been competitive using double braid polyester line for my
> main and jib sheets, not going with the more expensive hi tech line.  I use
> 7/16" line because it's easier to handle than 3/8".
>
>
> Alan Bergen
>
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>
> Rose City YC
>
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi listers,
>
> I'm planning on buying new sheets during the Defender Sale. We're a novice
> club-racing boat most of the time, but also do short trips around western
> long island sound.
>
> I've got old polyester core/cover sheets now, and will continue using them
> with my cruising headsails, but I'm thinking of getting Samson XLS Extra-T
> in the same diameter as i have now (3/8") to replace the mainsheet, and for
> my racing headsails. Is there any other type of line I should consider
> before pulling the trigger?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> ---
> Snow Goose
> C&C 35-1
> City Island, NY
>
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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Agree with Dennis. Soft shackles don't release on their own though I've only 
used them for the headsails for three continuous years. My genoa sheets are 
both red, 3/8" maxibraid, after my last genoa was impaled by the spreader when 
a very experienced and knowledgeable person crewing for me failed to lift his 
foot off of the sheet when we tacked. I was trying to tack but instead we "hove 
to". And I had to pay to repair the rip in the leech of my racing genoa. It's 
moot now that I mostly singlehand.

Singlehanding is very cool.
No arguments of any kind with crew and no one reminds me later about some 
screwup I made long ago. I've made them and learned from them. But some crew 
love to share their "total recall" memories just to beat down others. Miss the 
comraderie, but not the bullshit. Anyway, try solo. It's zen like.


> On March 22, 2018 at 2:40 PM "Dennis C. via CnC-List"  
> wrote:
> 
> My opinion, soft shackle release is highly unlikely.  I've never heard of 
> one.  Been using them for 4-5 years now.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > Hi Dennis
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Your soft shackle sheet connection looks very interesting.  I 
> > wonder if a flogging sail during a messy tack might result in a soft 
> > shackle releasing.  Any thoughts?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > Persistence
> > 
> > Halifax
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
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Stus-List Barient 28 vs 28+

[Steve Martin via CnC-List]

Does anyone know the difference between the barient 28 and the 28+.I had never 
heard of the 28+ until my recent purchase of a C&C custom 44 that has them.Any 
info is appreciated ThanksSteve

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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - soft shackle question

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

  Mike, I went with the soft shackle last spring and I was skeptical about the 
shackle openingnot one time all season...so, I am now a believer!  I bought 
the ready made one and it went on easily, no hanging on the shrouds, (my pet 
peeve,) either!

 


Richard

s/v Bushmark 4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 601 ( on the hard);
Richard N. Bush  
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Sent: Thu, Mar 22, 2018 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?



Hi Dennis
 
Your soft shackle sheet connection looks very interesting.  I wonder if a 
flogging sail during a messy tack might result in a soft shackle releasing.  
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks
 
Mike
Persistence
Halifax
 



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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[G Collins via CnC-List]

Integrated Hydraulic & Industrial Services, at 24 Simmonds Drive in Burnside 
(very close to Burnside Fiberglass).

They did it twice - first time was good for a year, started to leak at the end 
of the season because they didn't replace all the seals - just the ones they 
thought looked bad.  2nd time they changed them all.  So make them change 'em 
all...  they will be the same age.

Jazz tonight - Pat Healy and Luke Arsenault.  They are very good, but not as 
good as Jeff's nephew who performed for us last week.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2018-03-22 1:06 PM, jhnelson24 via CnC-List wrote:
Dan,
  I think Graham had his done locally here in Halifax. If he doesn't respond to 
the list you might try Thursday night's at compass distillers. He has a jazz 
night there and I believe usually attends.



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 Original message 
From: Daniel Cormier via CnC-List 

Date: 2018-03-22 10:18 (GMT-04:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Daniel Cormier 
Subject: Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

Will do- thanks guys, I'm glad it's only a regular maintenance thing :)

Dan

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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:18 AM, Dan via CnC-List 
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>
> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
> and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low 
> as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal 
> with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics 
> exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Barient 28 vs 28+

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Sorry, I don't know the difference but the 28+ is mentioned in the Barient
Catalog on Stu's C&C Photo Album Website and there is info on the 28 there
too.

Look here: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/indexes/winches.htm

Ken H.

On 22 March 2018 at 18:15, Steve Martin via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Does anyone know the difference between the barient 28 and the 28+.
> I had never heard of the 28+ until my recent purchase of a C&C custom 44
> that has them.
> Any info is appreciated
> Thanks
> Steve
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Re: Stus-List New 1974 C&C MKII 35 Owner

[Bill Hoyne via CnC-List]

Congratulations Kevin!!
I also have a ’74 C&C MKII it is located in Victoria BC. I have been down to 
see Dennis’s Touche a few times. I pass through NOLA several times a year for 
work. Hopefully You, Dennis and I can get together and yammer on about C&C’s.


Bill Hoyne
Mithrandir
’74 C&C35 MkII
in Victoria,BC



> On Mar 18, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Kevin Benoit via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi C&C Listers, 
> 
> I'm a happy new owner of a '74 MKII 35'.  I was told of your fine little list 
> here by Dennis Cheuvront of Touche' fame.  Dennis taught me to sail over the 
> past decade or so racing and cruising on his boat.  I have him to now 
> thank(or blame) for the help and guidance during the search and purchase of 
> my first boat.  I looked at quite a few Pearsons, Morgans, and many others 
> but in the end I decided on a boat I already new pretty well.  I'm excited to 
> get started and proud to own a boat with such a proud and respected pedigree. 
>  
> 
> I am taking delivery of Second Wind (new name definitely forthcoming), from 
> Savannah to Pensacola Shipyard this week where I plan to do repairs and 
> refits to turn her into a little less of a racer and a little more of a 
> coastal cruiser.  I just wanted to say how much help I've already gotten from 
> the site, the pics and from searching the archives.  While compiling my to-do 
> and inspection lists, it was so much easier to plan for those tasks having 
> those resources.  Just about every question I've had or modification I've 
> pictured have been discussed at some point.  
> 
> I'm sure I'll have many more questions as the repairs and refits move along, 
> but for now I just wanted to introduce myself and say thanks for keeping this 
> resource alive and available.  I hope to become an active member of the group 
> as soon as I have something worthy to contribute.  
> 
> Many pics of Second Wind in her current condition for those interested:  
> https://imgur.com/a/wcw3H 
> 
> Kevin Benoit
> Name TBD
> 1974 C&C MKII 35
> Baton Rouge, LA 
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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Regular XLS would be preferable to Extra T for sheets. Extra T is a better low 
stretch halyard line but tends to be rather stiff and holds a set when wrapped 
tight on a winch.
Stretch isn’t as big an issue with jib and main sheets that get constantly 
adjusted.
My $.02 as a Rope guy.
Chuck Gilchrest 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 22, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
> I'm planning on buying new sheets during the Defender Sale. We're a novice 
> club-racing boat most of the time, but also do short trips around western 
> long island sound.  
> 
> I've got old polyester core/cover sheets now, and will continue using them 
> with my cruising headsails, but I'm thinking of getting Samson XLS Extra-T in 
> the same diameter as i have now (3/8") to replace the mainsheet, and for my 
> racing headsails. Is there any other type of line I should consider before 
> pulling the trigger?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 
> ---
> Snow Goose
> C&C 35-1
> City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Thomas Delaney via CnC-List]

Thanks, everyone, for your input! I might go slightly bigger on the jib
sheets, but worry that a thicker line wouldn't work well with my mainsheet
winch. Anything will feel nicer to handle than the current sheets.

Dennis - I was only going to splice an eye at one end and whip the other
but you make a great case for having eyes at both ends and being able to
flip ends.

Like Dennis' setup, I am planning on using two soft shackles  to reeve the
sheets to my headsail. The Stingy Sailor post inspired me to buy  a set of
fids and a whole spool of 5/32" UHMWPE a few weeks ago. As a result I ended
up with a pile of 30 soft shackles (
https://photos.app.goo.gl/0N7BRteov5LhP0JE3). We'll see how well they hold
up over the season.

Thanks again,
Tom

---
Snow Goose
C&C 35-1
City Island, NY

-- Forwarded message --
From: "Dennis C." 
To: CnClist 
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 13:40:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?
My opinion, soft shackle release is highly unlikely.  I've never heard of
one.  Been using them for 4-5 years now.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Dennis
>
>
>
> Your soft shackle sheet connection looks very interesting.  I wonder if a
> flogging sail during a messy tack might result in a soft shackle
> releasing.  Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

My wife recommends 400-count and only embroidering the boats name on the top 
sheet.

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 22, 2018, at 20:50, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, everyone, for your input! I might go slightly bigger on the jib 
> sheets, but worry that a thicker line wouldn't work well with my mainsheet 
> winch. Anything will feel nicer to handle than the current sheets. 
> 
> Dennis - I was only going to splice an eye at one end and whip the other but 
> you make a great case for having eyes at both ends and being able to flip 
> ends.  
> 
> Like Dennis' setup, I am planning on using two soft shackles  to reeve the 
> sheets to my headsail. The Stingy Sailor post inspired me to buy  a set of 
> fids and a whole spool of 5/32" UHMWPE a few weeks ago. As a result I ended 
> up with a pile of 30 soft shackles 
> (https://photos.app.goo.gl/0N7BRteov5LhP0JE3). We'll see how well they hold 
> up over the season.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Tom
> 
> ---
> Snow Goose
> C&C 35-1
> City Island, NY
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Dennis C." 
> To: CnClist 
> Cc: 
> Bcc: 
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 13:40:57 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?
> My opinion, soft shackle release is highly unlikely.  I've never heard of 
> one.  Been using them for 4-5 years now.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Dennis
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Your soft shackle sheet connection looks very interesting.  I wonder if a 
>> flogging sail during a messy tack might result in a soft shackle releasing.  
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Persistence
>> 
>> Halifax
>> 
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Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

[Ted Drossos via CnC-List]

Putting an eye on both ends of your genoa sheets is a good idea for when you 
change your sheets end for end. Just make sure that the bulk of the eye splice 
will still fit through a turning block if you are using them. Otherwise you 
will have to disassemble the turning block to reeve the sheet through it.  


Ted Drossos
C&C 110
Lady in Red
Long Island, NY


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