Stus-List C ownership

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Don't let having a child stop you from sailing, Stephan. When our son was
just six months old, we put him in a car seat, strapped it to a winch and
went sailing.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

I have owned DejaVu, a 1990 34/36 for the past 7 years.  She is my third
C before her a 24' then another 34'.  We sailed the hell out of her all
around the Gulf of Mexico but now she sits on a custom trailer in Pensacola
Shipyard Marina.  The birth of a child will do that to you ;)   Thought
long and hard about parting ways with her but I cant do it, so she remains
sidelined and dearly missed for all the great adventures she surely brought
to us all who sailed her.  Maybe I will bring her up to Lake Lanier and
someday give her to my son Max, who is 2 years old.

Stephen Thorne
C 34/36 DejaVu
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Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[Fred Hazzard via CnC-List]

I was 5 when I got my first boat, a row boat. I began sailing opt’s at 12.
Although I sailed through college,  I did not own another boat until I
bought a flattie ( Gary 18) after college.
My first keel boat was a San Juan 24. From there I got a C 34. It was a
great family cruiser that we owned for 8 years.

>From there it was a couple of racer cruisers for the next 20 years.

Ten years ago we got Fury, a C 44.  It is primarily our cruiser with a
few races thrown in. Our great adventure with Fury was taking it to the Sea
of Cortez for the winter 5 years ago.

During the last 20 years I have very actively raced a Cal 20 in a one
design fleet of 12 to 20 Cal’s.

That brings me to the ripe old age of 76 with 71 years of boating and 69
years of sailing and 18 years in C’s.

Wahoo!!  Still sailing after all these years.

Fred Hazzard
Fury
Portland, Or


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:54 PM Allen Miles via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I've owned Septims for 24 years.
>
> Allen Miles
> C 30-2
> Hampton, VA
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 6:45 AM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I have owned Thirsty for eighteen years.  This is my third boat; first
>> C I have been sailing for fifty-two years, and racing for almost as
>> long. I'm still racing at age seventy-nine.
>>
>> Alan Bergen
>> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>> Rose City YC
>> Portland, OR
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 6:36 AM, Howard and Skippy via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Al,
>>> I have a question for the list.
>>> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
>>>
>>> I bought Knot Again in 1993 and have owned her for 25 years.
>>> Howard Paul, 35-3
>>>
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Stus-List Long time C owner

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

We have owned our 1974 C since 1994, over 24 years. We are the third 
owners and we paid almost the exact same price as the original owner paid, 
exactly 20 years earlier! We have the original invoice that shows it...  
ironically, I worked for the dealership that sold her, new, so that means that 
I would have commissioned her, new! She was sold out of Burr Sailboats in Mt. 
Clemens, Mi and is still kept and sails on Lake St. Clair, with trips to Lake 
Huron and Lake Erie. 
Greg and Patti Swetka
Grosse Pointe Park, MI
S.V. Piper
C 
North Star Sail Club 

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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 152, Issue 102

[Stephen Thorne via CnC-List]

I have owned DejaVu, a 1990 34/36 for the past 7 years.  She is my third
C before her a 24' then another 34'.  We sailed the hell out of her all
around the Gulf of Mexico but now she sits on a custom trailer in Pensacola
Shipyard Marina.  The birth of a child will do that to you ;)   Thought
long and hard about parting ways with her but I cant do it, so she remains
sidelined and dearly missed for all the great adventures she surely brought
to us all who sailed her.  Maybe I will bring her up to Lake Lanier and
someday give her to my son Max, who is 2 years old.

Stephen Thorne
C 34/36 DejaVu

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> 24 years and counting.
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> Gary 30-1 #593 ? 1980 vintage
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> From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Jack
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> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 8:51 AM
> To: C 
> Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question
>
>
>
> Hello Al,
>
>
>
> I have a question for the list.
>
>
>
> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
>
>
>
> FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second
> owners.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald,
>
> HONEY - US12788
>
> 1974 C 39 TM
>
> Savannah, GA 31410 USA
>
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> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:
>
> Question for Rob:
>
> At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most
> boats ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?
>
> We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is ? knock on FRP ? on track to
> be sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.
>
> I recall a frustrated C broker telling me ?No one trades up. Catalina
> owners buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!?
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I
>
>
>
> BTW ? thread creep ? Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like
> having a Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because
> someone else had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like
> we were aground :)
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> I owned "Moonstruck", a 1977 C 27 MKIII from 1999 to 2015 before

Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[Allen Miles via CnC-List]

I've owned Septims for 24 years.

Allen Miles
C 30-2
Hampton, VA

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 6:45 AM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have owned Thirsty for eighteen years.  This is my third boat; first
> C I have been sailing for fifty-two years, and racing for almost as
> long. I'm still racing at age seventy-nine.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 6:36 AM, Howard and Skippy via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Al,
>> I have a question for the list.
>> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
>>
>> I bought Knot Again in 1993 and have owned her for 25 years.
>> Howard Paul, 35-3
>>
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I’ve owned my 25, la Belle Aurore, since June, 1994. Just over 24 years.

 

Imzadi, my 38, was bought in May, 2003. So that’s a bit over 15 years now.

 

In response to a comment in another thread, My Grandfather and I built my first 
sailboat during the summer that I turned 14 – a bit over 54 years ago. She was 
really a crappy sailboat – he was a carpenter and I was a kid, and neither of 
us knew crap about boats at the time – but beamy and stable and a boat I 
couldn’t get in much trouble with.

 

And most of my best friends own C Can’t say if they are good friends 
because they like C, or if they bought C because they are great folks who 
became good friends. And I suppose it doesn’t really matter which.

 

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47

la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack 
Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 8:51 AM
To: C 
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

 

Hello Al,

 

I have a question for the list.

 

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

 

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.

 




Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald, 

HONEY - US12788

1974 C 39 TM

Savannah, GA 31410 USA

 

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Question for Rob:

At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most boats 
ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?

We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.

I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina owners 
buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”

 

Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I

 

BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having a 
Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone else 
had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were aground :)

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Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

We have owned Legacy for 19 years.  One of the last ones of the model built.
We are second owners.  Originally fresh water Lake Erie Rochester NY.  Just
a well designed, well built very handsome boat

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C 34
Noank, CT



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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Howard
and Skippy via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:37 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Howard and Skippy
Subject: Stus-List years a C owner

Hello Al,
I have a question for the list.
How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

I bought Knot Again in 1993 and have owned her for 25 years.
Howard Paul, 35-3


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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[G Collins via CnC-List]

Here - collect the data.  Click the link, takes 10 seconds...  (unless you have 
a crappy internet connection, I can't be blamed for that...)

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FFVJKWL

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2018-09-27 9:50 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List wrote:
Hello Al,

I have a question for the list.

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.


Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald,
HONEY - US12788
1974 C 39 TM
Savannah, GA 31410 USA

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Question for Rob:
At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most boats 
ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?
We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.
I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina owners 
buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having a 
Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone else 
had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were aground ☺
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Or the Nonsuch! :)

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
www.flirtingwithfire.net


On Sep 27, 2018, at 9:21 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Don’t tell her about the self tacking Freedom boats!

Joe
Coquina


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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Richard Bush; 
j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

Jack; I have owned my current C, a 37 CB for 4 years, however, it is my 4th 
C, ( a 25 II, 29 II, 33II and this 37)  I purchased the 25 in 
1987...don't know where that puts me on the scale.  As an aside, I did promise 
my wife that I wasn't going to move up to a 40 or more, because we sail on a 
riverlots of tacking!

Richard
s/v Bushmark 4, 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 602.5

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255

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Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

I had Pegasus my LF38 for 10 years, sold her when I bought my LF39 last
year.




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Re: Stus-List Me Love C Long Time

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

The Enterprise-A, a 1978 C 34, was in the family starting from 1979, and was 
still going strong until Superstorm Sandy destroyed her.

I’ve had the current Enterprise, a 1990 C 37+, since 2005 (Commissioned 
Stargate 10547.2). 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 



On Sep 27, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List  
wrote:

I've owned:
Expresso '75 C 35 Mk II 17 years
Kaylarah  '90 C 37+3 years

Gary
~~~_/)~~



On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 8:57 AM robert via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Jack:

Hope you are going to keep score.I am also the second owner of a 1984 C 
32...have had AZURA since 200612 years now and plan to keep her for many 
more.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List C Owner

[Jeff Bechtel via CnC-List]

>
> I just purchased Georgian Pearl (1976 30 MK1 ) this year  in Scarborough,
> ON and sailed her to Southampton, ON.

It's been an amazing and rewarding experience learning about this boat.
I'm already looking forward to next year!

Jeff Bechtel
Kitchener, ON


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> From: lklarchite...@gmail.com
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> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 09:28:03 -0500
> Subject: Stus-List C Owner
> With great help from Bill Coleman and the late Rich Loesel in Erie, PA
> I purchased * Finesse *in 2011 from the estate of Doug James, the
> original owner.
> I feel so very lucky to be the present owner and steward of this fine
> yacht and sailing vessel.
>
> Lloyd Lippe
> Finesse
> LF 39
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>
>
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> From: "Matthew L. Wolford" 
> To: 
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> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 10:41:34 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C Owner
> *Finesse* is a great boat.  Doug owned a C 39 for years before that
> (also *Finesse*).  We were all amazed when he returned his original 39 to
> Niagara-on-the-Lake and had a replacement deck installed.
>
> Rich Loesel was a great sailor and another very tough competitor against
> our Cal 33 back in the day.  He owned his 33-1 from sometime in the 70s
> (new at the time) until he died last year.  *Airborne* remains in our
> club and still looks great.
>
> Bill, who is lurking on this list, recently “upgraded” to a non-C
> Shameful.  His 70s-vintage 39, which I believe was the *Devshire* (also
> in Erie since new), is sitting on the hard.  Pity.
>
> *From:* LKL via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2018 10:28 AM
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> *Cc:* lklarchite...@gmail.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List C Owner
>
> With great help from Bill Coleman and the late Rich Loesel in Erie, PA
> I purchased *Finesse *in 2011 from the estate of Doug James, the original
> owner.
> I feel so very lucky to be the present owner and steward of this fine
> yacht and sailing vessel.
>
> Lloyd Lippe
> Finesse
> LF 39
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Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

I owned "Moonstruck", a 1977 C 27 MKIII from 1999 to 2015 before moving from 
Chicago to Tampa and have a 1994 37+ noa very good friend bought her.
Gotta love the C!
Bruce Whitmore 


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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

24 years and counting.

Gary 30-1 #593 – 1980 vintage

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 8:51 AM
To: C 
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

 

Hello Al,

 

I have a question for the list.

 

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

 

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.

 




Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald, 

HONEY - US12788

1974 C 39 TM

Savannah, GA 31410 USA

 

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Question for Rob:

At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most boats 
ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?

We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.

I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina owners 
buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”

 

Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I

 

BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having a 
Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone else 
had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were aground :)

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Re: Stus-List C Owner

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Fun for me to stroll down memory lane.  Sorry for boring nearly everyone 
else.


An Erie rendezvous sounds like fun.

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Subject: Stus-List C Owner

Thanks again Mattfor all you have shared on Doug and Rich.
I understand Doug and his father were both sailing and racing icons on the 
Great Lakes.

I think it’s time for an Erie Yacht Club Rendezvous.

Lloyd Lippe
Finesse
LF39

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Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

Owned Water Phantom since 1995–only boat I would move up to would be C 37/40 
KCB or 40 or 41–all with KCBs.

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On Thursday, September 27, 2018, Howard and Skippy via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hello Al,
I have a question for the list.
How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

I bought Knot Again in 1993 and have owned her for 25 years.
Howard Paul, 35-3


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[LKL via CnC-List]

Thanks again Mattfor all you have shared on Doug and Rich.
I understand Doug and his father were both sailing and racing icons on the 
Great Lakes.
I think it’s time for an Erie Yacht Club Rendezvous.

Lloyd Lippe 
Finesse 
LF39

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Re: Stus-List C long time question

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

I've owned:
Expresso '75 C 35 Mk II 17 years
Kaylarah  '90 C 37+3 years

Gary
~~~_/)~~



On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 8:57 AM robert via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Jack:
>
> Hope you are going to keep score.I am also the second owner of a 1984
> C 32...have had AZURA since 200612 years now and plan to keep her for
> many more.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2018-09-27 9:50 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Hello Al,
>
> I have a question for the list.
>
> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
>
> FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second
> owners.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald,
> HONEY - US12788
> 1974 C 39 TM
> Savannah, GA 31410 USA
>
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Re: Stus-List Winter cover C 40

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Patricia:
If you like to sew, you can make a cover. Sailrite (www.sailrite.com) has a
DVD which is currently on sale for $9.95. You can use a standard sewing
machine for sewing sunbrella.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:52 AM, Patricia Walsh via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The boat had a custom made frame and cover.  I still have the frame,
> however, I had to throw the cover out as it had rotted due to a leaking
> roof where it was stored. (I wish they had told us.)
> The frame is metal pipe.  I have four clamps to support the frame. I don't
> know if I should have more??
> I want to cover the boat.
> I would like to either buy a used cover or a tarp to put over the frame
> but I do not know the dimensions of the original cover or who made it so I
> could call and ask.
> My husband passed. He would have known. Can anyone help me?
> Thank you.
> Patricia
>
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Re: Stus-List Winter cover C 40

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I would post some pics of the parts you have.  May be able to determine 
who made it from the fittings.  Do you remember what color the cover 
was?  Where was the boat located when the cover was made?


On 9/27/2018 10:52 AM, Patricia Walsh via CnC-List wrote:
The boat had a custom made frame and cover.  I still have the frame, 
however, I had to throw the cover out as it had rotted due to a 
leaking roof where it was stored. (I wish they had told us.)
The frame is metal pipe.  I have four clamps to support the frame. I 
don't know if I should have more??

I want to cover the boat.
I would like to either buy a used cover or a tarp to put over the 
frame but I do not know the dimensions of the original cover or who 
made it so I could call and ask.

My husband passed. He would have known. Can anyone help me?
Thank you.
Patricia


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Re: Stus-List Winter cover C 40

[Chad Osmond via CnC-List]

Quinte Canvas has most dimensions and made a lot of covers for C's.


http://www.topshop.on.ca

They can probably assist with dimensions.
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Thomas Perison via CnC-List]

Jack -
I’m the 2d owner of my 1984 29mk2; “Therapy”.  Purchased her in 2010. 
R
Tom

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> On Sep 27, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Al,
> 
> I have a question for the list.
> 
> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
> 
> FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
> owners.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald, 
> HONEY - US12788
> 1974 C 39 TM
> Savannah, GA 31410 USA
> 
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> communication is strictly prohibited.  Please reply to the sender that you
> have received this message in error, then delete it.  Thank you
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> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Question for Rob:
>> 
>> At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most 
>> boats ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?
>> 
>> We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
>> sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.
>> 
>> I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina 
>> owners buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>> C 35 MK I
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having 
>> a Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone 
>> else had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were 
>> aground J
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C Owner

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Both great guys.  Before his first Finesse, Doug had an Alberg 35 named 
Blitzen.  My Dad and older brother crewed for him in the 60s and early 70s, 
until my Dad bought a Cal 33 (when I started "big boat" racing).  We sailed 
circles around the hobby-horsing Alberg, so Doug promptly bought his C 39.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 10:57 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: lklarchite...@gmail.com
Subject: Stus-List C Owner

Thanks Matt for your nice reply and interesting update.  I only met Doug 
James oncehaving lunch with him and Rich Loesel at the Erie Yacht 
Club.both were outstanding gentlemen and a most memorable experience.


Lloyd Lippe
Finesse
LF 39

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Re: Stus-List Rob - Edge: survival

[Mark Baldridge via CnC-List]

Richard,

I anchored her out on Tuesday, 9/11. I was the only boat there at the 
time. I've anchored my 35mk2 in that location many times. I like it 
because no one else anchors there and there is enough deep water that if 
it blows out I don't pound the bottom.


Two other boats later anchored out with me, a Catalina 25 and a Nonsuch. 
Both of them blew on shore. The Catalina was retrieved before the waters 
dropped and was re-anchored. No such luck for the Nonsuch (see pic).


I put out a delta 35lb on 200 ft or rode with new chafe guard. I put out 
a 35lb CQR with 200ft of chain and snubber. When I found her, she had 
drug .42 miles. Good thing I didn't have the spot tracker running or I 
would have gone crazy. The delta was not holding and was wrapped up in a 
ghost crabpot. The CQR was holding and the snubber had come unattached 
and the chain spun the release on the windlass so that all the chain 
plus 150ft of rode ran out. Good thing the rode was well attached to the 
bow. It took about 15 minutes to get the CQR up with the windlass and 
assistance from a powerboat. Next time I will use my 45lb danforth as 
the secondary anchor. Lesson learned.


When I retrieved the boat the engine would just bump and not turn over. 
I hand turned it back and it would stop at the same spot going forward. 
Figured water may have entered it. I keep a head sail on board, so we 
sailed her back in the slip. That was Monday 9/17. Still blowing, but 
had help putting her in the slip. Motor is fine after getting the water 
out and changing oil/filter. So, not a scratch on her!


Everyone that stayed at the Washington Country Club docks in Broad Creek 
did fine. Figure that! I just can't leave a boat in the slip during high 
water. Boats also came off their stands in the yards due to high water. 
A lot of boats anchored in Broad Creek also went in the trees. I'll take 
my chances out at anchor in the big water.


Here are a couple of pics: 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1v3Z3rHK-NMiGZEvN47q7LTNQ6hVHZgbi?usp=sharing


Mark


On 9/27/2018 9:45 AM, Richard Bush wrote:
Mark, that's an awesome story about Edge surviving Florence; do you 
have any film footage of the boat before or after (possibly during) 
the storm?  what type of bottom did the anchor eventually catch on? 
Were there other boats around? Thanks


Richard
s/v/ Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 602.5
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: Mark Baldridge via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Mark Baldridge 
Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2018 9:34 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

1975 C 27 'Twain' for 12 years
1974 C 35 MkII 'The Edge' for 25 years
1989 C 37/40+ 'The Edge' for 1 1/2 years and current boat

BTW, 'The Edge' survived Florence just fine. She drug about half a 
mile in the Pamlico river, but never ventured into shallow water. 
Water entered though the exhaust and into the M35 cylinders. Glad I 
left a sail inside so I could sail back to the slip. Pulled the glow 
plugs, got the water out and after a couple of oil/filter changes is 
running fine.


Mark Baldridge
~~_/)
'89 C/40+ "The Edge"
Surf City, NC





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Stus-List C Owner

[LKL via CnC-List]

Thanks Matt for your nice reply and interesting update.  I only met Doug James 
oncehaving lunch with him and Rich Loesel at the Erie Yacht Club.both 
were outstanding gentlemen and a most memorable experience.

Lloyd Lippe 
Finesse
LF 39

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Stus-List Winter cover C 40

[Patricia Walsh via CnC-List]

The boat had a custom made frame and cover.  I still have the frame,
however, I had to throw the cover out as it had rotted due to a leaking
roof where it was stored. (I wish they had told us.)
The frame is metal pipe.  I have four clamps to support the frame. I don't
know if I should have more??
I want to cover the boat.
I would like to either buy a used cover or a tarp to put over the frame but
I do not know the dimensions of the original cover or who made it so I
could call and ask.
My husband passed. He would have known. Can anyone help me?
Thank you.
Patricia
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Stus-List Long time sailing experience??

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Interesting thread on the longevity of both individual and
family C ownership.  Also interesting is the length of sailing experience
on the list.  52 years, etc.!  Nice.

Gosh, I feel like a newbie having started in the late 70's.  Hate to admit
it but I'm a recovering beach cat sailor.  Started my racing career on the
fore deck and still occasionally work the "pointy end".  Just happy to be
on the water these days.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Rob - Edge: survival

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

Mark...happy to hear you survived florence. I'll pass the info to the other 
edge owner. He likes to stay in contact.  Our floating docks did what they were 
supposed to.   We had about 5 more feet to go upwards on the pilings. Making 
and serving food to all this weekJim Schwartz SEA YA!38 LFWashington nc


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Richard Bush via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/27/18  9:45 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard Bush  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Rob - Edge: survival 

 Mark, that's an awesome story about Edge surviving Florence; do you have any 
film footage of the boat before or after (possibly during) the storm?  what 
type of bottom did the anchor eventually catch on? Were there other boats 
around? Thanks



 




Richard


 

s/v/ Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 602.5



Richard N. Bush



2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 



Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 



502-584-7255


 



 



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To: cnc-list 

Cc: Mark Baldridge 

Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2018 9:34 am

Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question






1975 C 27 'Twain' for 12 years

1974 C 35 MkII 'The Edge' for 25 years

1989 C 37/40+ 'The Edge' for 1 1/2 years and current boat



BTW, 'The Edge' survived Florence just fine. She drug about half a
mile in the Pamlico river, but never ventured into shallow water.
Water entered though the exhaust and into the M35 cylinders. Glad I
left a sail inside so I could sail back to the slip. Pulled the glow
plugs, got the water out and after a couple of oil/filter changes is
running fine.



Mark Baldridge


~~_/)


'89 C/40+ "The Edge"


Surf City, NC











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Re: Stus-List C Owner

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Finesse is a great boat.  Doug owned a C 39 for years before that (also 
Finesse).  We were all amazed when he returned his original 39 to 
Niagara-on-the-Lake and had a replacement deck installed.

Rich Loesel was a great sailor and another very tough competitor against our 
Cal 33 back in the day.  He owned his 33-1 from sometime in the 70s (new at the 
time) until he died last year.  Airborne remains in our club and still looks 
great.

Bill, who is lurking on this list, recently “upgraded” to a non-C  Shameful. 
 His 70s-vintage 39, which I believe was the Devshire (also in Erie since new), 
is sitting on the hard.  Pity.  

From: LKL via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 10:28 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: lklarchite...@gmail.com 
Subject: Stus-List C Owner

With great help from Bill Coleman and the late Rich Loesel in Erie, PA I 
purchased Finesse in 2011 from the estate of Doug James, the original owner. 
I feel so very lucky to be the present owner and steward of this fine yacht and 
sailing vessel.  

Lloyd Lippe 
Finesse
LF 39


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Stus-List C Owner

[LKL via CnC-List]

With great help from Bill Coleman and the late Rich Loesel in Erie, PA I 
purchased  Finesse in 2011 from the estate of Doug James, the original owner.
I feel so very lucky to be the present owner and steward of this fine yacht and 
sailing vessel.  

Lloyd Lippe 
Finesse
LF 39

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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Also, there is a 35-1 that I raced against as a kid (on my Dad’s 1972 Cal 33) 
over 45 years ago that is still at our local club.  Fun rivalry.  The original 
owner died not too long ago, but the boat remains in the family (his daughter 
and son-in-law).  My brother has owned the Cal 33 since my Dad died (about 30 
years ago).  Both boats still look great and remain competitive, although 
neither is raced regularly these days.

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:58 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

I've owned Touche' for 19.5 years.  Have logged over 13,000 nm since purchase. 

I am 5th owner.  Touche' was ordered in April 1971 as Touche'.  Delivered 
through Walet Yacht Sales in New Orleans in September 1971.  The original price 
was $19,807 US.  Touche' has always been a Lake Pontchartrain boat although it 
has been docked in Pensacola for several months.

Touche' was 1st to finish the Gulfport Pensacola Race in June 1972.  Went 
through a couple of quick owner changes and was then purchased and raced 
extensively by a local dentist until 1981.  The 4th owner cruised Touche' for a 
while then let the boat go idle for several years.  After watching it for a 
couple years, I contacted him in April 1999 and convinced him to sell it.

For those newer to the list, if your boat is USCG documented, you can order an 
abstract of title online from the USCG Vessel Documentation Center here:

https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/Assistant-Commandant-for-Prevention-Policy-CG-5P/Inspections-Compliance-CG-5PC-/National-Vessel-Documentation-Center/National-Vessel-Documentation-Center-Instructions-and-Forms/


It will show all transactions including ownership transfers, liens, etc.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA




On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:52 AM Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Hello Al,

  I have a question for the list.

  How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

  FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.


  Best regards,
  Jack Fitzgerald, 
  HONEY - US12788
  1974 C 39 TM
  Savannah, GA 31410 USA


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  On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Question for Rob:

At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most 
boats ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?

We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.

I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina 
owners buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”



Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I



BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like 
having a Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because 
someone else had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we 
were aground J

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Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[Tortuga via CnC-List]

We are coming up on our 9th anniversary with Tortuga. Previously we sailed
a Tanzer, another victim of 80's Canadian bank foreclosures. Here, outside
of  Antigonish NS, we're surrounded by Tanzers and C

Derek Kennedy
SV Tortuga, 1979 C mk1, #553
Ballantyne's Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List C long time question

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Hi all, I purchased C ’Est La Vie (C 26) seven years ago in 2011. The 
previous owner was Bob Montgomery who bought it in Detroit and loved it so much 
that he hauled it with him to Oklahoma.

Steve Staten
“C’ Est La Vie”
C 26
Langley, Oklahoma
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Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Would it count that I owned my previous C 24 for 7 years?

Incidentally, I, too, sail now for 52 years, but I started earlier (well, when 
I was younger).

Marek
ex. 1974 C 24 “Fennel”
Ottawa, ON

From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 09:45
To: C
Cc: ALAN BERGEN
Subject: Re: Stus-List years a C owner

I have owned Thirsty for eighteen years.  This is my third boat; first C I 
have been sailing for fifty-two years, and racing for almost as long. I'm still 
racing at age seventy-nine.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 6:36 AM, Howard and Skippy via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hello Al,
I have a question for the list.
How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

I bought Knot Again in 1993 and have owned her for 25 years.
Howard Paul, 35-3


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Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearings

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I tried making one from G10.  I was not able to get the collett sized
correctly.  Eventually I paid my mechanic who had the right tool.  The
smaller the shaft, the thinner the collett and bearing.

Joel

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 6:52 AM Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Here is a video, showing the generic tool and procedure.  The tool isn't
> that difficult to make if you have access to a drill press and a way to cut
> metal plate.  What they didn't show in the video is first finding and
> loosening the set screws that hold the cutless bearing into the strut.
> They can be difficult to find due to years of paint hiding them.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZQHLvUUyuE
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 18:20, Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a 1" shaft
>>
>> Gerald Fennessey
>> gfennes...@verizon.net
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>> To: cnc-list 
>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
>> Sent: Mon, Sep 24, 2018 5:03 pm
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearings
>>
>> The thinner the shaft the less likely those things are to work. The yard
>> that did mine removed the prop shaft to do the job, their tool would not
>> work on a 7/8” shaft.
>> The tool is essentially a pipe that fits over the prop shaft that presses
>> the bearing out with a way to grab the strut and not try and wrench the
>> strut off the boat. The thicker the cutless bearing (NOT cutlass), the
>> better they work.
>>
>>
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Gerald Fennessey via
>> CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 4:44 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Gerald Fennessey 
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearings
>>
>> Do you have any info on the gadget?
>> Gerald Fennessey
>> gfennes...@verizon.net
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JP Mail via CnC-List 
>> To: cnc-list 
>> Cc: JP Mail 
>> Sent: Mon, Sep 24, 2018 4:20 pm
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearings
>> We replaced shaft with rudder in place. There is a gadget that presses
>> the cutlass bearing out with shaft in place. I got me one. I’ve read
>> they’re finicky. As in, they work great on brand new cutlass bearings.
>> Never used it because we changed the CB when new shaft installed.
>> J
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Looking to replace the cutlass bearing
>> on my 1985 35 mk3.
>> Any info would be helpful.
>>  Does the rudder have to be removed or will the shaft slide by it?
>> Is there a special tool for removing it without removing the shaft?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gerry Fennessey
>> Fianna
>>
>>
>> gfennes...@verizon.net
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I've owned Touche' for 19.5 years.  Have logged over 13,000 nm since
purchase.

I am 5th owner.  Touche' was ordered in April 1971 as Touche'.  Delivered
through Walet Yacht Sales in New Orleans in September 1971.  The original
price was $19,807 US.  Touche' has always been a Lake Pontchartrain boat
although it has been docked in Pensacola for several months.

Touche' was 1st to finish the Gulfport Pensacola Race in June 1972.  Went
through a couple of quick owner changes and was then purchased and raced
extensively by a local dentist until 1981.  The 4th owner cruised Touche'
for a while then let the boat go idle for several years.  After watching it
for a couple years, I contacted him in April 1999 and convinced him to sell
it.

For those newer to the list, if your boat is USCG documented, you can order
an abstract of title online from the USCG Vessel Documentation Center here:

https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/Assistant-Commandant-for-Prevention-Policy-CG-5P/Inspections-Compliance-CG-5PC-/National-Vessel-Documentation-Center/National-Vessel-Documentation-Center-Instructions-and-Forms/

It will show all transactions including ownership transfers, liens, etc.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA




On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:52 AM Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello Al,
>
> I have a question for the list.
>
> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
>
> FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second
> owners.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald,
> HONEY - US12788
> 1974 C 39 TM
> Savannah, GA 31410 USA
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> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Question for Rob:
>>
>> At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most
>> boats ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?
>>
>> We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to
>> be sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.
>>
>> I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina
>> owners buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Coquina
>>
>> C 35 MK I
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like
>> having a Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because
>> someone else had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like
>> we were aground J
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Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

8 years for us.

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html




On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 10:37, Howard and Skippy via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello Al,
> I have a question for the list.
> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
>
> I bought Knot Again in 1993 and have owned her for 25 years.
> Howard Paul, 35-3
>
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Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C 30 MK I?

[Rob Ball via CnC-List]

Randy,
I worked one summer while going to Michigan, and started at Cuthbertson and 
Cassian in 1969 when I graduated . . .
In 1973, Big George wanted to retire early, and he handed me the Chief Designer 
job (much to my surprise).
The C 30 was very much a development of the C 27, and I did the lines 
drawing, my first, but very much from Big George’s direction . . . I also did 
the sail plan . . .
From 73 to 1990, I was the Chief Designer . . .
There were even a couple of Wind Surfers  . . .
There are 7,480 boats out there that I counted once, not counting the Boston 
Whalers  . . . . ( I have Harpoon 5.2 Number 505)  . . .


Cheers,
Rob Ball
Chief Design Engineer  Tel 508-995-9711
[http://www.edsonintl.com/signature/image001.gif]
Edson International
Email: r...@edsonintl.com[Edson - Home] 

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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I have owned my 1976 C 42 Custom for about eight years – no plan to sell.  
Still working on projects.  I am the third owner.

Prior to the 42, I owned a 1978 C 34 for about a decade.  The design of the 
34 is similar to the 42 (and the 36 and 38 of the same vintage).

Matt Wolford
Erie, PA

From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 8:50 AM
To: C 
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

Hello Al,

I have a question for the list.

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.


Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald, 
HONEY - US12788
1974 C 39 TM
Savannah, GA 31410 USA


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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Question for Rob:

  At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most 
boats ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?

  We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.

  I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina 
owners buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”



  Joe

  Coquina

  C 35 MK I



  BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having 
a Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone 
else had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were 
aground J

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Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C 30 MK I?

[robert via CnC-List]

Ken:

Thank you for the correctionI said I was no C authority.did 
some homework after my incorrect post.Rob Ball became C's Chief 
Designer in 1973 according to the Photo Album site.


Rob

On 2018-09-27 10:40 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:


Robert H. Perry Interviews Rob Ball - *C Yachts, Chief of Design.* *
*

*Quote: **http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/archive/ballinterview.htm*

*Rob Ball:* I started working part time in 1966 and I started full 
time in 1969. We had four people then, one of the four being a summer 
student.



On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 10:36, robert via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Randy:

I shouldn't but in here because I am no authority on the C
history but I doubt the 'initials in the Drawn block' for your C
30 MK I are those of Rob Ball as the 'designer'..I believe
George Cuthbertson designed 30 MK I.   I think Rob Ball joined the
C company in the early 1980's, maybe 1983.Rob can correct me
if I am wrong.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 -84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-09-26 5:08 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote:

Hi Rob,

Since we’re discussing the 30 MK I on the mail list today, I
thought I’d share a blast from the past - a drawing of the sail
plan for the 24’9” LWL Auxiliary Sloop (i.e. the 30 MK I), dated
Dec. 22, 1970.  See
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LNnF3ohhpfxYPndc528aTh6uvJHhPOel.
Are those your initials in the Drawn By block?

This drawing came in the records with my boat, 30 MK I hull #7
(HIN 30007972).  A4, tiller steering, boom-end sheeting to
traveler on transom - love the cockpit room.  Her first owner was
Bob Andrews of Traverse City, MI, who raced her in the Mac (the
Chicago Yacht Club Race to Mackinac).  She spent her first 40
years in Traverse City under four different owners, then moved to
Colorado in 2012.  I am her sixth owner and have raced her weekly
for three years at my local club.  At age 46 she’s still
competitive and sharp-looking and a lot of fun.

Thank you for the 30 MK I.  I love that boat.  I’ve had her up to
7.6 knots on GPS, and I’ve had her out in gale-force winds
multiple times.  She’s stiff and stable as hell, and I love
that.  If you’re interested, there are photos of my boat
including various projects at
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTaUlpUkZJWGt5RVk.

Thanks Again,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO


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Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Congrats Alan,

I hope that you get in another 50+ years on the water.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:45 AM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have owned Thirsty for eighteen years.  This is my third boat; first
> C I have been sailing for fifty-two years, and racing for almost as
> long. I'm still racing at age seventy-nine.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 6:36 AM, Howard and Skippy via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Al,
>> I have a question for the list.
>> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
>>
>> I bought Knot Again in 1993 and have owned her for 25 years.
>> Howard Paul, 35-3
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C 30 MK I?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

*RB: The 33 was (my first design as chief designer), I guess. I became in
charge here in 1973 and that was the first boat that was all my design.*

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 10:40, Ken Heaton  wrote:

> Robert H. Perry Interviews Rob Ball - *C Yachts, Chief of Design.*
>
> *Quote: **http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/archive/ballinterview.htm
> *
>
> *Rob Ball:* I started working part time in 1966 and I started full time
> in 1969. We had four people then, one of the four being a summer student.
>
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 10:36, robert via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Randy:
>>
>> I shouldn't but in here because I am no authority on the C history but
>> I doubt the 'initials in the Drawn block' for your C 30 MK I are those of
>> Rob Ball as the 'designer'..I believe George Cuthbertson designed 30 MK
>> I.   I think Rob Ball joined the C company in the early 1980's, maybe
>> 1983.Rob can correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 -84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>> On 2018-09-26 5:08 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Since we’re discussing the 30 MK I on the mail list today, I thought I’d
>> share a blast from the past - a drawing of the sail plan for the 24’9” LWL
>> Auxiliary Sloop (i.e. the 30 MK I), dated Dec. 22, 1970.  See
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LNnF3ohhpfxYPndc528aTh6uvJHhPOel. Are
>> those your initials in the Drawn By block?
>>
>> This drawing came in the records with my boat, 30 MK I hull #7 (HIN
>> 30007972).  A4, tiller steering, boom-end sheeting to traveler on transom -
>> love the cockpit room.  Her first owner was Bob Andrews of Traverse City,
>> MI, who raced her in the Mac (the Chicago Yacht Club Race to Mackinac).
>> She spent her first 40 years in Traverse City under four different owners,
>> then moved to Colorado in 2012.  I am her sixth owner and have raced her
>> weekly for three years at my local club.  At age 46 she’s still competitive
>> and sharp-looking and a lot of fun.
>>
>> Thank you for the 30 MK I.  I love that boat.  I’ve had her up to 7.6
>> knots on GPS, and I’ve had her out in gale-force winds multiple times.
>> She’s stiff and stable as hell, and I love that.  If you’re interested,
>> there are photos of my boat including various projects at
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTaUlpUkZJWGt5RVk.
>>
>> Thanks Again,
>> Randy Stafford
>> S/V Grenadine
>> C 30-1 #7
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Rob - Edge: survival

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Mark, that's an awesome story about Edge surviving Florence; do you have any 
film footage of the boat before or after (possibly during) the storm?  what 
type of bottom did the anchor eventually catch on? Were there other boats 
around? Thanks
 
Richard
 s/v/ Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 602.5
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
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From: Mark Baldridge via CnC-List 
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Cc: Mark Baldridge 
Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2018 9:34 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

 1975 C 27 'Twain' for 12 years
 1974 C 35 MkII 'The Edge' for 25 years
 1989 C 37/40+ 'The Edge' for 1 1/2 years and current boat
 
 BTW, 'The Edge' survived Florence just fine. She drug about half a mile in the 
Pamlico river, but never ventured into shallow water. Water entered though the 
exhaust and into the M35 cylinders. Glad I left a sail inside so I could sail 
back to the slip. Pulled the glow plugs, got the water out and after a couple 
of oil/filter changes is running fine.
 
 Mark Baldridge 
 ~~_/) 
 '89 C/40+ "The Edge" 
 Surf City, NC 
 
 

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Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C 30 MK I?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Robert H. Perry Interviews Rob Ball - *C Yachts, Chief of Design.*

*Quote: **http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/archive/ballinterview.htm
*

*Rob Ball:* I started working part time in 1966 and I started full time in
1969. We had four people then, one of the four being a summer student.

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 10:36, robert via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Randy:
>
> I shouldn't but in here because I am no authority on the C history but I
> doubt the 'initials in the Drawn block' for your C 30 MK I are those of
> Rob Ball as the 'designer'..I believe George Cuthbertson designed 30 MK
> I.   I think Rob Ball joined the C company in the early 1980's, maybe
> 1983.Rob can correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 -84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2018-09-26 5:08 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Since we’re discussing the 30 MK I on the mail list today, I thought I’d
> share a blast from the past - a drawing of the sail plan for the 24’9” LWL
> Auxiliary Sloop (i.e. the 30 MK I), dated Dec. 22, 1970.  See
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LNnF3ohhpfxYPndc528aTh6uvJHhPOel. Are
> those your initials in the Drawn By block?
>
> This drawing came in the records with my boat, 30 MK I hull #7 (HIN
> 30007972).  A4, tiller steering, boom-end sheeting to traveler on transom -
> love the cockpit room.  Her first owner was Bob Andrews of Traverse City,
> MI, who raced her in the Mac (the Chicago Yacht Club Race to Mackinac).
> She spent her first 40 years in Traverse City under four different owners,
> then moved to Colorado in 2012.  I am her sixth owner and have raced her
> weekly for three years at my local club.  At age 46 she’s still competitive
> and sharp-looking and a lot of fun.
>
> Thank you for the 30 MK I.  I love that boat.  I’ve had her up to 7.6
> knots on GPS, and I’ve had her out in gale-force winds multiple times.
> She’s stiff and stable as hell, and I love that.  If you’re interested,
> there are photos of my boat including various projects at
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTaUlpUkZJWGt5RVk.
>
> Thanks Again,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
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Re: Stus-List years a C owner

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I have owned my Landfall 38 since 1986--32 years!

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
Annapolis, MD 

> On Sep 27, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Howard and Skippy via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Al,
> I have a question for the list.
> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
> 
> I bought Knot Again in 1993 and have owned her for 25 years.
> Howard Paul, 35-3
> 
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Stus-List years a C owner

[Howard and Skippy via CnC-List]

Hello Al,
I have a question for the list.
How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

I bought Knot Again in 1993 and have owned her for 25 years.
Howard Paul, 35-3


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Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C 30 MK I?

[robert via CnC-List]

Randy:

I shouldn't but in here because I am no authority on the C history but 
I doubt the 'initials in the Drawn block' for your C 30 MK I are those 
of Rob Ball as the 'designer'..I believe George Cuthbertson designed 
30 MK I.   I think Rob Ball joined the C company in the early 1980's, 
maybe 1983.Rob can correct me if I am wrong.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 -84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-09-26 5:08 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote:

Hi Rob,

Since we’re discussing the 30 MK I on the mail list today, I thought 
I’d share a blast from the past - a drawing of the sail plan for the 
24’9” LWL Auxiliary Sloop (i.e. the 30 MK I), dated Dec. 22, 1970. 
 See 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LNnF3ohhpfxYPndc528aTh6uvJHhPOel. 
Are those your initials in the Drawn By block?


This drawing came in the records with my boat, 30 MK I hull #7 (HIN 
30007972).  A4, tiller steering, boom-end sheeting to traveler on 
transom - love the cockpit room.  Her first owner was Bob Andrews of 
Traverse City, MI, who raced her in the Mac (the Chicago Yacht Club 
Race to Mackinac).  She spent her first 40 years in Traverse City 
under four different owners, then moved to Colorado in 2012.  I am her 
sixth owner and have raced her weekly for three years at my local 
club.  At age 46 she’s still competitive and sharp-looking and a lot 
of fun.


Thank you for the 30 MK I.  I love that boat.  I’ve had her up to 7.6 
knots on GPS, and I’ve had her out in gale-force winds multiple times. 
 She’s stiff and stable as hell, and I love that.  If you’re 
interested, there are photos of my boat including various projects at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTaUlpUkZJWGt5RVk.


Thanks Again,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO


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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Mark Baldridge via CnC-List]

1975 C 27 'Twain' for 12 years
1974 C 35 MkII 'The Edge' for 25 years
1989 C 37/40+ 'The Edge' for 1 1/2 years and current boat

BTW, 'The Edge' survived Florence just fine. She drug about half a mile 
in the Pamlico river, but never ventured into shallow water. Water 
entered though the exhaust and into the M35 cylinders. Glad I left a 
sail inside so I could sail back to the slip. Pulled the glow plugs, got 
the water out and after a couple of oil/filter changes is running fine.


Mark Baldridge
~~_/)
'89 C/40+ "The Edge"
Surf City, NC


On 9/27/2018 9:30 AM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List wrote:


We’ve had Perception C 33-II for 18 years now more to come! Had a 
C 27-III for 10 years before that. Only looked at C’s when we were 
moving up …..


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*Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List

*Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2018 8:51 AM
*To:* C mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
*Cc:* Jack Fitzgerald >

*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

Hello Al,

I have a question for the list.

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the 
second owners.



Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald,

HONEY - US12788

1974 C 39 TM

Savannah, GA 31410 USA

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
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Question for Rob:

At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer
than most boats ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad
thing?

We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on
track to be sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her
since I was 12.

I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up.
Catalina owners buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for
decades!”

Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I

BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was
like having a Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We
bought one because someone else had one on the river and that boat
passed the rest of us like we were aground J

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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

We’ve had Perception C 33-II for 18 years now more to come! Had a C 27-III 
for 10 years before that. Only looked at C’s when we were moving up …..

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack 
Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 8:51 AM
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Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
mailto:j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

Hello Al,

I have a question for the list.

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.


Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald,
HONEY - US12788
1974 C 39 TM
Savannah, GA 31410 USA

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
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Question for Rob:
At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most boats 
ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?
We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.
I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina owners 
buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having a 
Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone else 
had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were aground ☺
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Jack,

My current hobby is our 1982 C 37, hull 18. We bought it as a dilapidated 
bank-repo in 1997. Looks like we are the third owners with the first one a 
Canadian and the second someone who had no business owning such a fine sailing 
vessel...

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

> On Sep 27, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Al,
> 
> I have a question for the list.
> 
> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
> 
> FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
> owners.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald, 
> HONEY - US12788
> 1974 C 39 TM
> Savannah, GA 31410 USA
> 
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> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Question for Rob:
> 
> At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most 
> boats ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?
> 
> We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
> sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.
> 
> I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina 
> owners buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”
> 
>  
> 
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
> C 35 MK I
> 
>  
> 
> BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having 
> a Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone 
> else had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were 
> aground J
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Jim Reinardy via CnC-List]

  
  
  

We are finishing our 6th season with Firewater, our 1988 30-2.  No 
plans to trade up at this point, though I would look at C’s first if we did.
Jim ReinardyMilwaukee, WI



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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 8:52 AM -0400, "Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List" 
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Hello Al,
I have a question for the list.
How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald, HONEY - US127881974 C 39 TMSavannah, GA 31410 USA

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 wrote:










Question for Rob:


At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most boats 
ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?


We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.


I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina owners 
buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”


 


Joe


Coquina


C 35 MK I


 


BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having a 
Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone else
 had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were aground 
J



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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[David via CnC-List]

Purchased Corsair (1981 40-2) in 2004.   Will never sell her and will pass 
along to my son.   I may buy another boat for the south however.

FYI...began as a fore-deck monkey on a 1972 35.  Then the owner bought a 38 
(Golden Peace on Long Island Sound). He then went on to buy a 40 after I moved 
on.   Who says C & C owners don't trade up!

Seemed a bit prophetic now that I have a 40.


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650


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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Richard Bush; j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

Jack; I have owned my current C, a 37 CB for 4 years, however, it is my 4th 
C, ( a 25 II, 29 II, 33II and this 37)  I purchased the 25 in 
1987...don't know where that puts me on the scale.  As an aside, I did promise 
my wife that I wasn't going to move up to a 40 or more, because we sail on a 
riverlots of tacking!

Richard
s/v Bushmark 4, 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 602.5

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
To: C 
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2018 8:52 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

Hello Al,

I have a question for the list.

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.


Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald,
HONEY - US12788
1974 C 39 TM
Savannah, GA 31410 USA

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Question for Rob:
At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most boats 
ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?
We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.
I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina owners 
buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having a 
Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone else 
had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were aground :)
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Don’t tell her about the self tacking Freedom boats!

Joe
Coquina


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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

Jack; I have owned my current C, a 37 CB for 4 years, however, it is my 4th 
C, ( a 25 II, 29 II, 33II and this 37)  I purchased the 25 in 
1987...don't know where that puts me on the scale.  As an aside, I did promise 
my wife that I wasn't going to move up to a 40 or more, because we sail on a 
riverlots of tacking!

Richard
s/v Bushmark 4, 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 602.5

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255

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[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Jack; I have owned my current C, a 37 CB for 4 years, however, it is my 4th 
C, ( a 25 II, 29 II, 33II and this 37)  I purchased the 25 in 
1987...don't know where that puts me on the scale.  As an aside, I did promise 
my wife that I wasn't going to move up to a 40 or more, because we sail on a 
riverlots of tacking!  
 
Richard
 s/v Bushmark 4, 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 602.5

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
To: C 
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2018 8:52 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

Hello Al,
I have a question for the list.
How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald, HONEY - US127881974 C 39 TMSavannah, GA 31410 USA

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Question for Rob:At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far 
longer than most boats ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad 
thing?We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to 
be sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.I recall a 
frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina owners buy boats 
every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!” JoeCoquinaC 35 MK I BTW – 
thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having a 
Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone else 
had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were aground 
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I sold Peregrine after only having her five years. It felt wrong to let her go. 
But her new owner loves her and is taking good care of her. 

Andy

Andrew Burton
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> On Sep 27, 2018, at 08:56, robert via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Jack:
> 
> Hope you are going to keep score.I am also the second owner of a 1984 C 
> 32...have had AZURA since 200612 years now and plan to keep her for many 
> more.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
>> On 2018-09-27 9:50 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List wrote:
>> Hello Al,
>> 
>> I have a question for the list.
>> 
>> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
>> 
>> FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
>> owners.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Jack Fitzgerald, 
>> HONEY - US12788
>> 1974 C 39 TM
>> Savannah, GA 31410 USA
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

Jack

/Fireball /has been owned by my family since 1980. Has had four 
generations on her in offshore races and is still racing successfully. 
Third owners.


Best regards,
Don Kern
Fireball - 12708
1974 C 35 Mk2
Bristol, RI 02809


On 9/27/2018 8:50 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List wrote:

Hello Al,

I have a question for the list.

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the 
second owners.



Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald,
HONEY - US12788
1974 C 39 TM
Savannah, GA 31410 USA

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Question for Rob:

At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer
than most boats ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad
thing?

We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on
track to be sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her
since I was 12.

I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up.
Catalina owners buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for
decades!”

Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I

BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was
like having a Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We
bought one because someone else had one on the river and that boat
passed the rest of us like we were aground J

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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

We’ve had Perception C 33-II for 18 years now more to come!

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack 
Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 8:51 AM
To: C 
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

Hello Al,

I have a question for the list.

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
owners.


Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald,
HONEY - US12788
1974 C 39 TM
Savannah, GA 31410 USA

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Question for Rob:
At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most boats 
ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?
We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.
I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina owners 
buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having a 
Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone else 
had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were aground ☺
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Re: Stus-List C long time question

[Dan via CnC-List]

I dunno, I'm loving my C - no plans whatsoever to part with her, but I've
had 2 offers to buy her since I took possession... There's a mixture of
flattery and disgust followed by and immediate impulse to use profanity
and/or violence, but I refrain and politely decline :)

Dan
Breakaweigh
C
Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Thanks..

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
Savannah, GA 31410 USA



On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 8:59 AM Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I’m the second owner of *Oceanis*, Landfall 38 hull #009 (1979); I’ve
> owned her for twelve years.  Before that, I had another *Oceanis*, 30mkI
> hull #677 (1981); I was probably the fourth owner, and had her for ten
> years.
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>
> On Sep 27, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Al,
>
> I have a question for the list.
>
> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
>
> FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second
> owners.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald,
> HONEY - US12788
> 1974 C 39 TM
> Savannah, GA 31410 USA
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C long time question

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Hello Robert,

Thanks, no score to keep more curios than anything else.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald - export department
Fitzgerald Forwarding Co. Inc. FMC license no:1966F
260 Oatland Island Road, Savannah, GA 31410 USA
Tel. no: 912 898.1069 - Fax no: 912 898.9458 - 24/7 mobile number: 912
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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 8:57 AM robert  wrote:

> Jack:
>
> Hope you are going to keep score.I am also the second owner of a 1984
> C 32...have had AZURA since 200612 years now and plan to keep her for
> many more.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2018-09-27 9:50 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Hello Al,
>
> I have a question for the list.
>
> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
>
> FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second
> owners.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald,
> HONEY - US12788
> 1974 C 39 TM
> Savannah, GA 31410 USA
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I’m the second owner of Oceanis, Landfall 38 hull #009 (1979); I’ve owned her 
for twelve years.  Before that, I had another Oceanis, 30mkI hull #677 (1981); 
I was probably the fourth owner, and had her for ten years.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Sep 27, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Al,
> 
> I have a question for the list.
> 
> How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.
> 
> FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second 
> owners.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald, 
> HONEY - US12788
> 1974 C 39 TM
> Savannah, GA 31410 USA

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Stus-List C long time question

[robert via CnC-List]

Jack:

Hope you are going to keep score.I am also the second owner of a 
1984 C 32...have had AZURA since 200612 years now and plan to keep 
her for many more.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-09-27 9:50 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List wrote:

Hello Al,

I have a question for the list.

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the 
second owners.



Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald,
HONEY - US12788
1974 C 39 TM
Savannah, GA 31410 USA


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Re: Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Hello Al,

I have a question for the list.

How many of you have owned your current C yacht for 5 years or longer.

FYI - we have owned Honey since October 1976 and are currently the second
owners.


Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald,
HONEY - US12788
1974 C 39 TM
Savannah, GA 31410 USA

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Question for Rob:
>
> At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most
> boats ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?
>
> We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to
> be sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.
>
> I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina
> owners buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I
>
>
>
> BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like
> having a Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because
> someone else had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like
> we were aground J
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Re: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C 30 MK I?

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Hi Randy

We had a lot of C 30-1 at BHYC (they still do there).  A hull dimple seemed 
pretty common near the shrouds from tightly tensioning the rig.  The former 
owner of the marina was also a boat builder and he would bring in boats (mostly 
C 30s in the end), paint them and resell them.  When painting this he always 
took care of the dimple

Thanks for sharing your albums

Mike

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Stafford via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 5:09 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Randy Stafford
Subject: Stus-List Rob Ball Drawing of C 30 MK I?

Hi Rob,

Since we’re discussing the 30 MK I on the mail list today, I thought I’d share 
a blast from the past - a drawing of the sail plan for the 24’9” LWL Auxiliary 
Sloop (i.e. the 30 MK I), dated Dec. 22, 1970.  See 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LNnF3ohhpfxYPndc528aTh6uvJHhPOel. Are those 
your initials in the Drawn By block?

This drawing came in the records with my boat, 30 MK I hull #7 (HIN 30007972).  
A4, tiller steering, boom-end sheeting to traveler on transom - love the 
cockpit room.  Her first owner was Bob Andrews of Traverse City, MI, who raced 
her in the Mac (the Chicago Yacht Club Race to Mackinac).  She spent her first 
40 years in Traverse City under four different owners, then moved to Colorado 
in 2012.  I am her sixth owner and have raced her weekly for three years at my 
local club.  At age 46 she’s still competitive and sharp-looking and a lot of 
fun.

Thank you for the 30 MK I.  I love that boat.  I’ve had her up to 7.6 knots on 
GPS, and I’ve had her out in gale-force winds multiple times.  She’s stiff and 
stable as hell, and I love that.  If you’re interested, there are photos of my 
boat including various projects at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTaUlpUkZJWGt5RVk.

Thanks Again,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO
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Stus-List Rob - C long time question

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Question for Rob:
At the time, was the fact that C seem to be owned far longer than most boats 
ever discussed ? Was this considered a good or bad thing?
We have owned Coquina since 1977 and she is – knock on FRP – on track to be 
sailed by the third generation. I have sailed her since I was 12.
I recall a frustrated C broker telling me “No one trades up. Catalina owners 
buy boats every 5 years and you all keep them for decades!”

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

BTW – thread creep – Having a C 35 in the early or mid 70s was like having a 
Ferrari when everyone else had a golf cart. We bought one because someone else 
had one on the river and that boat passed the rest of us like we were aground ☺
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Stus-List Grateful 34+ sailor

[Francois Rivard via CnC-List]

Hi Rob,

Very cool to "see" you on the list.  I have the privilege to own a 1990 34+
and 5 years into owning it I'm still amazed at how far ahead of its time
this boat was.

My boat was originally a NY great lake boat, then moved to Florida, and
eventually Lake Lanier (Near Atlanta).  I believe I'm the 4th owner and I'm
fortunate enough to know the prior owners personally. I love to hear the
tales of Mahi caught off the walk through transom and how they sailed my
boat across the Caribbean all the way down to Tortuga.

We race the boat regularly and even my good racer friends love to hate us
on the race course.  Comments like: "It's not fair to have a boat with a
wine cabinet out-point my sport boat" and "how much diesel did you burn to
go this fast in this little wind?", and "there should be a class just for
C's" abound.  :-)

All that in a boat with a comfortable cabin for my family of 4 to spend
weekends.  Another comment from a fellow weekender regarding our boat's
accommodations was: "I'm staying at Motel 6, y'all are at the Marriott"

I love that dual personality of the helm responding like my old 470's
tiller and the Marriott accommodations.

Thanks for creating such a fantastic package.

Best Regards,
Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearings

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Here is a video, showing the generic tool and procedure.  The tool isn't
that difficult to make if you have access to a drill press and a way to cut
metal plate.  What they didn't show in the video is first finding and
loosening the set screws that hold the cutless bearing into the strut.
They can be difficult to find due to years of paint hiding them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZQHLvUUyuE

Ken H.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 18:20, Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have a 1" shaft
>
> Gerald Fennessey
> gfennes...@verizon.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
> Sent: Mon, Sep 24, 2018 5:03 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearings
>
> The thinner the shaft the less likely those things are to work. The yard
> that did mine removed the prop shaft to do the job, their tool would not
> work on a 7/8” shaft.
> The tool is essentially a pipe that fits over the prop shaft that presses
> the bearing out with a way to grab the strut and not try and wrench the
> strut off the boat. The thicker the cutless bearing (NOT cutlass), the
> better they work.
>
>
> Joe
> Coquina
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Gerald Fennessey via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 4:44 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Gerald Fennessey 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearings
>
> Do you have any info on the gadget?
> Gerald Fennessey
> gfennes...@verizon.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JP Mail via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: JP Mail 
> Sent: Mon, Sep 24, 2018 4:20 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearings
> We replaced shaft with rudder in place. There is a gadget that presses the
> cutlass bearing out with shaft in place. I got me one. I’ve read they’re
> finicky. As in, they work great on brand new cutlass bearings. Never used
> it because we changed the CB when new shaft installed.
> J
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Looking to replace the cutlass bearing
> on my 1985 35 mk3.
> Any info would be helpful.
>  Does the rudder have to be removed or will the shaft slide by it?
> Is there a special tool for removing it without removing the shaft?
>
> Thanks
> Gerry Fennessey
> Fianna
>
>
> gfennes...@verizon.net
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