Stus-List Maintenance that makes the boat work easier

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

I'd like to share something most of you know but some may not and it's 
something I learned the hard way.  Before hoisting sails for the first time 
this season, check that all your blocks and deck organizer sheaves turn 
properly and the sail tracks are clean.   Use a finger to check that the sheave 
turns freely in each block.  Things work easier if everything actually works, 
and if you do this the sails will thank you.

Earlier I reported that I raise the mainsail on my 36 ft saiboat by hand.  Well 
I couldn't do that when I first got my boat and needed to use a winch on 
halyards.  My sailing friends told me that was normal and winches were always 
necessary to hoist such large  sails.  My mainsail weighs only 55 to 60 pounds, 
so I thought they might be wrong.  Later, I spent some time checking all of the 
mast base halyard blocks and freeing a few frozen sheaves in the deck 
organizer, I found I could raise the mainsail by hand very easily.  These 
sheaves are deceptive when frozen and allow a halyard to pass unimpeded 
initially when there is no load, but once the strain comes on, if they are 
frozen, the halyard becomes bar taught and the job requires a winch.  I also 
learned from reading the winch catalog that the largest loads; the genoa and 
main halyards work best if reeved along the most direct path to the right side 
of a winch drum.  So now I pick the clutch directly in line with the right side 
of 
 the Starboard winch drum for my main halyard.  All my winch drums turn 
clockwise.  My genoa halyard is reeved through the clutch directly in line with 
the right side of the Port winch drum.   I run the spinnaker halyards through 
the outermost clutches and all the other lines have lower loads so can be run 
as you like.  And I label the clutches.

I also hoist the Genoa by hand onto the furler and because I clean the foil 
grooves and spray the sail tabbing with MackLube, it goes up pretty easily.  
The lube also allows easy adjustment of the halyard tension when shaping the 
sail while sailing.  I usually pick a lightwind day and extend the genoa 
halyard so I can wrap the tail round the winch drum and lead it to the bow 
where I feed the sail into the groove as I pull the halyard.  I can clear any 
snags as they develop and the sail goes up happy and quick.

So clean and lube your winches and the clutches too.
Mark your halyards so you can repeat proper settings.
These things make operating the boat so much easier.

Sorry for the long rant.

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Pasadena Md

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Stus-List Re: Winch bit

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

FWIW,  My main's sail slides are nylon and I spray the mast groove with 
MackLube and I sail solo 90% of the time.  I hoist the main from either the 
cockpit or at the mast by hand.  I use a winch to put the final tension on the 
luff, but not to hoist it up.  Hoisting by hand is so much faster.  The sail 
weighs 60# but I'm not pulling the entire weight until the head is very near 
the top of the mast.  (My main is 330 Sq Ft compared to a 44's 410 sq ft.)


Chuck Scheaffer  

> On 01/26/2021 4:33 PM Don Newman via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> Milwaukee 90 degree Hole Hawg will hoist my main to the top.  I have to 
> finish manually.
> It means that I don't have to leave the cockpit to pull it up by hand 
> when solo. 
> Manually grinding it up would be a killer.
>  
> It will hoist a person up (others have done it).
> 
> --
> Don Newman
> C 44
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Stus-List Re: Winch bit

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Dwight,

This is why I don't like an electric winches in the first place. If all works 
well, the electrically propelled winch is a great tool. But if there is a 
problem, especially, if hoisting a person, all bets are off.

Marek

From: dwight veinot via CnC-List 
Sent: January 26, 2021 18:31
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Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch bit

But if there is a snag what happens. I have experienced snags hoisting mu msin

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 5:33 PM Don Newman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Milwaukee 90 degree Hole Hawg will hoist my main to the top.  I have to finish 
manually.
It means that I don't have to leave the cockpit to pull it up by hand when solo.
Manually grinding it up would be a killer.

It will hoist a person up (others have done it).


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Stus-List Re: Winch bit

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

But if there is a snag what happens. I have experienced snags hoisting mu
msin

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 5:33 PM Don Newman via CnC-List <
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> Milwaukee 90 degree Hole Hawg will hoist my main to the top.  I have to
> finish manually.
> It means that I don't have to leave the cockpit to pull it up by hand when
> solo.
> Manually grinding it up would be a killer.
>
> It will hoist a person up (others have done it).
>
>
> --
> Don Newman
> C 44
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Stus-List Re: Voyage Recorder

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Maybe. I got polars for the mkii. Generally correct but you gottsvfo some
good stuff someyomes

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 5:14 PM Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
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> Speaking of polars.  Are there polars for the C 35 mk I.
>
> Thanks.
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> Speaking of data, I just purchased a Voyage Recorder,
>
> Has anyone else gone down this rabbit hole? It seems like a good way to
> keep logs of all your activity autonomously, as I never seem to get around
> to jotting this stuff down  on my own.
>
> You can export it into excel, Google Earth, and even generate your own
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Stus-List Re: Winch bit

[Don Newman via CnC-List]

Milwaukee 90 degree Hole Hawg will hoist my main to the top.  I have to
finish manually.
It means that I don't have to leave the cockpit to pull it up by hand when
solo.
Manually grinding it up would be a killer.

It will hoist a person up (others have done it).

-- 
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C 44
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Stus-List Re: Voyage Recorder

[Glen Eddie via CnC-List]

Speaking of polars.  Are there polars for the C 35 mk I.

Thanks.



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From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Date: 2021-01-26 4:03 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Voyage Recorder

Speaking of data, I just purchased a Voyage Recorder,
Has anyone else gone down this rabbit hole? It seems like a good way to keep 
logs of all your activity autonomously, as I never seem to get around to 
jotting this stuff down  on my own.
You can export it into excel, Google Earth, and even generate your own polars 
with their software –

https://www.yachtd.com

[ydvr_300.jpg]

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA

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[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Speaking of data, I just purchased a Voyage Recorder,

Has anyone else gone down this rabbit hole? It seems like a good way to keep 
logs of all your activity autonomously, as I never seem to get around to 
jotting this stuff down  on my own. 

You can export it into excel, Google Earth, and even generate your own polars 
with their software – 

 

https://www.yachtd.com

 

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Stus-List Re: weather station (update)

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

I like the Davis instruments; they are well made and long lasting, which is
a rarity these days. I had an old spare unit installed at home for a while
but decided to sell it, as there are enough local stations near me that I
don't need it. When I was working, we hosted one of the local stations for
the Island Weather research project out of UVic. Some really interesting
weather data can be collected when you have dozens of these units spread
across an area:

http://www.islandweather.ca/

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 6:38 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> A while back I asked for help with selecting a weather station. This is a
> quick update.
>
> Thanks to everyone who provided input.
>
> The Club decided to select the Davis system. It has been purchased in the
> fall and we have it installed in a temporary location on the Clubhouse. It
> will move to a better location in the Spring.
>
> If anyone is interested, here is a link to the weather page:
> *https://nsc.ca/nsc_weather/dev.php* .
>
> We are still working on the design.
>
> Thank you again
>
> Marek Dziedzic
> Nepean Sailing Club
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
> _
> *From:* Marek Dziedzic
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 7:16 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Subject:* weather station
>
>
> Hi,
>
> This is not C related, but certainly sailing-related…
>
> I have a general question to anyone who is involved in running a weather
> station for the sailing club (or similar). Our Club had various weather
> stations over the years, but the last one failed about a year ago and we
> did not have anything this season. I was asked to investigate what we could
> use.
>
> I have two options already: Davis Vantage Pro 2 and WeatherFlow Tempest.
>
> Davis w/s is reasonably high-end, but it also has a rather high-end price.
> WeatherFlow is very new, has very attractive pricing and no moving parts.
>
> This will be a Sailing Club w/s, so the most important parameters are wind
> speed and direction; anything else is a bonus.
>
> Thanks
>
> Marek Dziedzic
> Ottawa, On
>
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Stus-List Re: C 35 Mk 1

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

True for the 35 mkii as well

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 9:24 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My boat has 3 bilge pumps. I have electric pumps at the aft end of the
> bilge and in the sump. The manual pump also runs to the sump. The get a 35
> totally dry you would need about 6 bilge pumps at least, the bilge does not
> flow evenly to either end.
>
> Offshore in rough conditions you pay for the speedy hull design, the low
> point is frequently not the bilge at all and keeping water out of the
> lockers and so on is a nuisance.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
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> C 35 MK I
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Stus-List Re: Teak Sole

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Just my $.02: I would not consider replacing the teak and holly sole on a
C with anything but the real thing. C are basically the Canadian-built
equivalent of a Swan (only better looking). Not to put too fine a point on
it: A classy yacht like a C deserves a classy interior. Plastic
"flooring" just doesn't cut it as far as I'm concerned!

Andy
Formerly C 40 Peregrine
(Now Baltic 47 Masquerade)

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

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Stus-List Re: Teak Sole

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

I doubt any vinyl plank flooring exposed to the NC sun would last more than 1 
season--OTOH for those who hardly ever see their shadow, maybe not!!
Charlie NelsonGreenville, NC


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From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Kevin Driscoll 
Sent: Mon, Jan 25, 2021 8:13 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Teak Sole

Unless your boat never leaves the slip, I would not personally do vinyl plank 
flooring. I work in multifamily development (apartment buildings) and we have 
miles of vinyl plank installed in our projects. While it is a great product, I 
think it would not provide great footing at any kind or heel and it would be 
difficult to finish the edges precisely and aesthetically. It also 'moves' 
quite a bit, i.e. expands and contracts so that when it is installed one has to 
leave 1/4"-1/2" gap at any fixed element, like a wall or cabinets, which is 
covered by the wall base trim. This allows for the vinyl to expand and not push 
up when constrained.  It is also heavy, even for our not lightweight boats. 



On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:29 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I wonder what vinyl plank flooring would look like. 
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 5:10 PM Adam Hayden via CnC-List 
 wrote:

John
We are looking at doing the same.  Our sole is pretty worn as well.  That same 
plywood here is about double in price.  I think a number of the group here have 
done this already.

Would love to see your before and after pictures as we have a 36 as 
well.AdamPictou NS

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Stus-List Re: weather station (update)

[Jeff Nelson via CnC-List]

I think someone is spoofing a location on you.   :-)

I mostly use this one these days.
https://www.smartatlantic.ca/station_alt.html?id=halifax

I'd like to get one up and running at our club here at AYC.

Cheers,
  Jeff Nelson
  Muir Caileag
  C 30 0549

On 2021-01-26 11:22 a.m., Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:


Jeff,

There was even talk about putting the weather station on one of the 
buoys (!). Fortunately, cool heads prevailed.


Btw. there is a PWS that reports that it is right in the middle of the 
Lac Deschenes (https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IOTTAW95 
). A few of us 
tried to find it at its coordinates, but nobody, so far, was successful.


Cheers

Marek






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Stus-List Re: weather station (update)

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Jeff,

There was even talk about putting the weather station on one of the buoys (!). 
Fortunately, cool heads prevailed.

Btw. there is a PWS that reports that it is right in the middle of the Lac 
Deschenes (https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IOTTAW95). A few of us 
tried to find it at its coordinates, but nobody, so far, was successful.

Cheers

Marek

From: Jeff Nelson via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:16 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jeff Nelson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: weather station (update)

Cool.  I think NSC had something like this many years ago, was located on one 
of the towers
of the main clubhouse that no longer exist.  Lighthouse will be an excellent 
choice for location.
Closer to the race venue and in largely clear air.

Cheers,
   Jeff Nelson
   Muir Caileag
   C 30 0549
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Stus-List Re: weather station (update)

[Jeff Nelson via CnC-List]

Cool.  I think NSC had something like this many years ago, was located 
on one of the towers
of the main clubhouse that no longer exist.  Lighthouse will be an 
excellent choice for location.

Closer to the race venue and in largely clear air.

Cheers,
   Jeff Nelson
   Muir Caileag
   C 30 0549

 Original message 
From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
Date: 1/26/21 09:37 (GMT-05:00)
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Stus-List Re: weather station (update)

Hello,
A while back I asked for help with selecting a weather station. This 
is a quick update.

Thanks to everyone who provided input.
The Club decided to select the Davis system. It has been purchased in 
the fall and we have it installed in a temporary location on the 
Clubhouse. It will move to a better location in the Spring.
If anyone is interested, here is a link to the weather page: 
_https://nsc.ca/nsc_weather/dev.php_ .

We are still working on the design.
Thank you again
Marek Dziedzic
Nepean Sailing Club
Ottawa, ON
_
*From:* Marek Dziedzic
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 7:16 PM
*To:* Stus-List 
*Subject:* weather station
Hi,
This is not C related, but certainly sailing-related…
I have a general question to anyone who is involved in running a 
weather station for the sailing club (or similar). Our Club had 
various weather stations over the years, but the last one failed about 
a year ago and we did not have anything this season. I was asked to 
investigate what we could use.

I have two options already: Davis Vantage Pro 2 and WeatherFlow Tempest.
Davis w/s is reasonably high-end, but it also has a rather high-end 
price. WeatherFlow is very new, has very attractive pricing and no 
moving parts.
This will be a Sailing Club w/s, so the most important parameters are 
wind speed and direction; anything else is a bonus.

Thanks
Marek Dziedzic
Ottawa, On

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Stus-List Re: weather station (update)

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

Nice. Lots of information. Doug Mountjoysv Rebecca Leah C Landfall 39Port 
Orchard yacht club
 Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 Date: 1/26/21  09:37  (GMT-05:00) To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Marek Dziedzic  Subject: 
Stus-List Re: weather station (update) 

Hello,
 
A while back I asked for help with selecting a weather station. This is a quick 
update.
 
Thanks to everyone who provided input.
 
The Club decided to select the Davis system. It has been purchased in the fall 
and we have it installed in a temporary location on the Clubhouse. It will move 
to a better location in the Spring.
 
If anyone is interested, here is a link to the weather page: 
https://nsc.ca/nsc_weather/dev.php.
 
We are still working on the design.
 
Thank you again
 
Marek Dziedzic
Nepean Sailing Club
Ottawa, ON
 
 
 
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From: Marek Dziedzic 

Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 7:16 PM

To: Stus-List 

Subject: weather station
 
 
Hi,
 
This is not C related, but certainly sailing-related…
 
I have a general question to anyone who is involved in running a weather 
station for the sailing club (or similar). Our Club had various weather 
stations over the years, but the last one failed about a year ago and we did 
not have
anything this season. I was asked to investigate what we could use.
 
I have two options already: Davis Vantage Pro 2 and WeatherFlow Tempest.
 
Davis w/s is reasonably high-end, but it also has a rather high-end price. 
WeatherFlow is very new, has very attractive pricing and no moving parts.
 
This will be a Sailing Club w/s, so the most important parameters are wind 
speed and direction; anything else is a bonus.
 
Thanks
 
Marek Dziedzic
Ottawa, On
 
 

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Stus-List Re: weather station (update)

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Hello,

A while back I asked for help with selecting a weather station. This is a quick 
update.

Thanks to everyone who provided input.

The Club decided to select the Davis system. It has been purchased in the fall 
and we have it installed in a temporary location on the Clubhouse. It will move 
to a better location in the Spring.

If anyone is interested, here is a link to the weather page: 
https://nsc.ca/nsc_weather/dev.php.

We are still working on the design.

Thank you again

Marek Dziedzic
Nepean Sailing Club
Ottawa, ON



_
From: Marek Dziedzic
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 7:16 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: weather station


Hi,

This is not C related, but certainly sailing-related...

I have a general question to anyone who is involved in running a weather 
station for the sailing club (or similar). Our Club had various weather 
stations over the years, but the last one failed about a year ago and we did 
not have anything this season. I was asked to investigate what we could use.

I have two options already: Davis Vantage Pro 2 and WeatherFlow Tempest.

Davis w/s is reasonably high-end, but it also has a rather high-end price. 
WeatherFlow is very new, has very attractive pricing and no moving parts.

This will be a Sailing Club w/s, so the most important parameters are wind 
speed and direction; anything else is a bonus.

Thanks

Marek Dziedzic
Ottawa, On


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Stus-List Re: Kiwi Grip

[Stephen Kidd via CnC-List]

Applying kiwi grip has been the easiest thing I've ever done on a boat. We
did our cockpit non-skid areas a couple of years ago and it looks great. We
applied more to the cabin top after refinishing and rebedding the handrails
this spring. Since I plan on refinishing the rest of the cabin top and deck
non-skid, I did minimal prep as an experiment - just a rough sanding,
cleaning, and taping. I normally fret a lot about prep. The whole thing was
super quick with just the single coat. It looks great and no evidence of
any trouble so far. The fact that you most likely do not need a primer or
multiple coats makes it pretty economical, especially considering the time
savings.

My only gripe is that rougher textures can be a little hard to keep clean,
but that doesn't seem unique to kiwi grip. There are tons of great videos
and info on getting various textures. I went with a foam roller on the
cabin top to get a smoother look.

The kiwi grip I got last spring came in plastic pouches instead of cans.
You just squeeze it out as you go, and it keeps very well. It's actually
pretty fun.

Regards,
Stephen
C 25
Washington DC

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 9:01 AM WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I did my cockpit sole about 5 years ago.  Still looks great.  I am a OEM
> kind of guy, and it looks and feels like original.  Two suggestions, 1.
> Practice a little on a piece of plywood to get the feel for texture you
> want. 2. Get a bunch of paint chips from Home Depot, etc. to match your
> color and they will tint for free, at least mine did.
> Took less than one quart.
> Bill Walker
> C & C 36
> Pentwater, Mi.
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Kiwi Grip

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Cool – I need a few sunny days in a row here 
Joe
Coquina
From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:49 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Kiwi Grip

40-90F.  You can find the info at: 
https://www.pyiinc.com/downloads/kiwigrip/kiwigrip-instruction-booklet.pdf



On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I need to do that – how warm does it have to be for that to dry/set?
Joe
Coquina

From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 6:58 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Kiwi Grip

I did my cockpit with Kiwi grip about 5 years ago and am still very happy with 
the results.  I only needed a liter and my wife and I had an easy time applying 
it.   About $50 at Defender.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT





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S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT

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Stus-List Re: Kiwi Grip

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

 I did my cockpit sole about 5 years ago.  Still looks great.  I am a OEM kind 
of guy, and it looks and feels like original.  Two suggestions, 1. Practice a 
little on a piece of plywood to get the feel for texture you want. 2. Get a 
bunch of paint chips from Home Depot, etc. to match your color and they will 
tint for free, at least mine did.Took less than one quart.Bill WalkerC & C 
36Pentwater, Mi.
On Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 07:36:10 AM EST, David Knecht via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 I did my cockpit with Kiwi grip about 5 years ago and am still very happy with 
the results.  I only needed a liter and my wife and I had an easy time applying 
it.   About $50 at Defender.  Dave
S/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, CT


On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:50 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 
  Hey Tom,   Do you remember how many gallons of Kiwi Grip were used on your 35 
and what they cost?       Thanks,   Chuck S  
  On 01/25/2021 10:44 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
wrote:           We used Kiwi grip on our 35 MK 1.  Once the masking was done 
it went on easily.  I can’t say how long it held up since we got 5 footitis and 
got Alera within a year or two. 
 
  Tom Buscaglia  S/V Alera    1990 C 37+/40   Vashon WAP 206.463.9200   C 
305.409.3660     
 
 On Jan 25, 2021, at 7:40 PM, cenelson via CnC-List  
wrote: 
 
 
  
   Any thoughts about Kiwi grip?.  
  Relatively cheap, easily applied and tinted by DIYers and it holds up well. 
 
 
 Sent from the all new Aol app for iOS 
 

On Monday, January 25, 2021, 7:31 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 
I bought the same stuff off Amazon a few years ago that George referenced 
above. It was such a nice change and from a grip, comfort, and cooling 
standpoint. I will say that the grey layer on top is thin and became unbonded 
to the black substrate below, eventually falling off completely. This may have 
been from sun/rain exposure over the two years. The black substrate makes up 
the bulk of the thickness and is the EVA foam I believe. While it is still 
comfortable and slip resistant, the aesthetics are not ideal. I rubbed off what 
grey was left  and now the aesthetic is a uniform black.   I have considered 
re-applying with a solid color grey or similar and not the faux weathered teak. 
I can not justify at this time the Raptor Deck expense, but would say that it 
is a superior product.    I do think this budget material would work great down 
below and would have many benefits. The only caveat being that dust and grit 
obviously will seek the low point in the profile and so you will probably need 
a dustbuster handy in lieu of the standard dust pan.    KD 
  
 

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:37 PM George Cone via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:  
  
Bruno, 

 

I offer this as a thought, I purchased some of this material as a test, 
planning to remove it and buy the real expensive stuff,  because I was 
concerned how it would hold up under the stress of my dog. An active retriever. 
I was amazed how good it has worked and in-fact bought some more to finish the 
job.

 
 
Take a look on amazon -- CHURERSHINING EVA Teak Decking Sheet for Boat Yacht 
Marine Floor Carpet Non-Slip and Self-Adhesive Bevel Edge 94.5"x35.4"
 
 
 
Thanks,
 
George Cone
 
C 40 

 

 
  
From: Bruno Lachance via CnC-List  
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 4:26 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bruno Lachance 
Subject: Stus-List Seadeck / Raptor deck eva foam for cockpit
  
 
 
Hi,
  
 
  
The cockpit antiskip is long overdue on our 1987 33-2 and even with really good 
deck shoes it is now just unsafe. Our plan is to cover the cockpit sole, 
benches and bridgedeck with 5 mm light grey. The templates are made and both 
companies (Seadeck and Raptor) do custom work. You send theme the templates and 
they send you a quote. But before i send them my precious templates,  I would 
like to have a ballpark estimate, anybody on the list that have done the same 
and could give me a rough estimate. It could be from a C 29 to a let's say 37.
  
 
  
I have sailed on boats where the cockpit sole was covered with Raptor deck as 
antiskid. I loved the feel of it and the grip is really good and more comfy. I 
would prefer this to paint.
  
 
  
I know i could also buy a sheet of the same stuff and cut it myself, but i want 
it to look professional if the price is not outrageous.
  
 
   
Thank you!
   
 
  
Bruno Lachance
  
Bécassin, C 33-2
  
New-Richmond, Qc
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Stus-List Re: Kiwi Grip

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

40-90F.  You can find the info at: 
https://www.pyiinc.com/downloads/kiwigrip/kiwigrip-instruction-booklet.pdf


> On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I need to do that – how warm does it have to be for that to dry/set?
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: David Knecht via CnC-List  > 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 6:58 AM
> To: CnC CnC discussion list  >
> Cc: David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Kiwi Grip
>  
> I did my cockpit with Kiwi grip about 5 years ago and am still very happy 
> with the results.  I only needed a liter and my wife and I had an easy time 
> applying it.   About $50 at Defender.  Dave
>  
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>   Thanks - Stu

David Knecht
S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Stus-List Re: Kiwi Grip

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I need to do that – how warm does it have to be for that to dry/set?
Joe
Coquina

From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 6:58 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Kiwi Grip

I did my cockpit with Kiwi grip about 5 years ago and am still very happy with 
the results.  I only needed a liter and my wife and I had an easy time applying 
it.   About $50 at Defender.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT

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Stus-List Re: C 35 Mk 1

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

My boat has 3 bilge pumps. I have electric pumps at the aft end of the bilge 
and in the sump. The manual pump also runs to the sump. The get a 35 totally 
dry you would need about 6 bilge pumps at least, the bilge does not flow evenly 
to either end.
Offshore in rough conditions you pay for the speedy hull design, the low point 
is frequently not the bilge at all and keeping water out of the lockers and so 
on is a nuisance.

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I
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Stus-List Re: Teak Sole

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

In Halifax january 2016 4 x 8 teak & holly sole was $600 CAD. Expect has gone 
up in price since then

From: Adam Hayden via CnC-List 
Sent: January 25, 2021 5:10 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Adam Hayden 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Teak Sole

John

We are looking at doing the same.  Our sole is pretty worn as well.  That same 
plywood here is about double in price.  I think a number of the group here have 
done this already.


Would love to see your before and after pictures as we have a 36 as well.
Adam
Pictou NS


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Stus-List Re: Kiwi Grip

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I did my cockpit with Kiwi grip about 5 years ago and am still very happy with 
the results.  I only needed a liter and my wife and I had an easy time applying 
it.   About $50 at Defender.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:50 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Tom,
> Do you remember how many gallons of Kiwi Grip were used on your 35 and what 
> they cost?
>  
> Thanks,
> Chuck S
>> On 01/25/2021 10:44 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> We used Kiwi grip on our 35 MK 1.  Once the masking was done it went on 
>> easily.  I can’t say how long it held up since we got 5 footitis and got 
>> Alera within a year or two. 
>> 
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> S/V Alera 
>> 1990 C 37+/40
>> Vashon WA
>> P 206.463.9200
>> C 305.409.3660
>>  
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2021, at 7:40 PM, cenelson via CnC-List  
>>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>>  Any thoughts about Kiwi grip?.
>>> 
>>> Relatively cheap, easily applied and tinted by DIYers and it holds up well. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from the all new Aol app for iOS 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Monday, January 25, 2021, 7:31 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bought the same stuff off Amazon a few years ago that George referenced 
>>> above. It was such a nice change and from a grip, comfort, and cooling 
>>> standpoint. I will say that the grey layer on top is thin and became 
>>> unbonded to the black substrate below, eventually falling off completely. 
>>> This may have been from sun/rain exposure over the two years. The black 
>>> substrate makes up the bulk of the thickness and is the EVA foam I believe. 
>>> While it is still comfortable and slip resistant, the aesthetics are not 
>>> ideal. I rubbed off what grey was left  and now the aesthetic is a uniform 
>>> black. 
>>> I have considered re-applying with a solid color grey or similar and not 
>>> the faux weathered teak. I can not justify at this time the Raptor Deck 
>>> expense, but would say that it is a superior product. 
>>> I do think this budget material would work great down below and would have 
>>> many benefits. The only caveat being that dust and grit obviously will seek 
>>> the low point in the profile and so you will probably need a dustbuster 
>>> handy in lieu of the standard dust pan. 
>>> KD 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:37 PM George Cone via CnC-List < 
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
>>> Bruno,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I offer this as a thought, I purchased some of this material as a test, 
>>> planning to remove it and buy the real expensive stuff,  because I was 
>>> concerned how it would hold up under the stress of my dog. An active 
>>> retriever. I was amazed how good it has worked and in-fact bought some more 
>>> to finish the job.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Take a look on amazon -- CHURERSHINING EVA Teak Decking Sheet for Boat 
>>> Yacht Marine Floor Carpet Non-Slip and Self-Adhesive Bevel Edge 94.5"x35.4" 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> George Cone
>>> 
>>> C 40
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Bruno Lachance via CnC-List >> > 
>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 4:26 PM
>>> To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>>> Cc: Bruno Lachance >> >
>>> Subject: Stus-List Seadeck / Raptor deck eva foam for cockpit
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The cockpit antiskip is long overdue on our 1987 33-2 and even with really 
>>> good deck shoes it is now just unsafe. Our plan is to cover the cockpit 
>>> sole, benches and bridgedeck with 5 mm light grey. The templates are made 
>>> and both companies (Seadeck and Raptor) do custom work. You send theme the 
>>> templates and they send you a quote. But before i send them my precious 
>>> templates,  I would like to have a ballpark estimate, anybody on the list 
>>> that have done the same and could give me a rough estimate. It could be 
>>> from a C 29 to a let's say 37.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have sailed on boats where the cockpit sole was covered with Raptor deck 
>>> as antiskid. I loved the feel of it and the grip is really good and more 
>>> comfy. I would prefer this to paint.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I know i could also buy a sheet of the same stuff and cut it myself, but i 
>>> want it to look professional if the price is not outrageous.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Bruno Lachance
>>> 
>>> Bécassin, C 33-2
>>> 
>>> New-Richmond, Qc
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>>> PayPal to send contribution --https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>>>   Thanks - Stu
>>>  
>>> Thanks to all