Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mk II for sale

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

I also have a 35 Mk II with below deck autopilot. It was a major challenge but 
the only good way to go due to the layout of the binnacle and engine 
controls... My main problem with this unit is that I lost about 20% of total 
steering control from lock to lock, due to the length of the steering arm on 
the pilot. Did you have the same issue?

Greg Swetka
S. V. Piper
C&C 35 Mk II
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>   1. Re:  C&C 35 Mk II for sale (Gary Russell)
>   2. Re:  C&C 37+ Repower -- Ugh (John and Maryann Read)
>   3. Re:  2015 Sailstice umbrella race (dwight veinot)
>   4. Re:  C&C 37+ Repower -- Ugh (Dennis C.)
>   5. Re:  Marion Bermuda Race (David)
>   6. Re:  Races underway (David)
>   7. Re:  Races underway Bermuda to Marion (Richard N. Bush)
>   8. Re:  Marion Bermuda Race (Andrew Burton)
>   9. Re:  C&C 37+ Repower -- Ugh (Edd Schillay)
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 07:14:38 -0400
> From: Gary Russell 
> To: "C&C List" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mk II for sale
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> Hi Burt,
>Actually, she is not red, but Awl-Grip Cork Brown (thus Expresso)
> currently duplicated in Imron MS600.  I highly recommend Imron over
> Awl-Grip.  It is much easier to repair if you have a mishap (not that I
> ever would [?]).  I am embarrassed to admit how much i have sunk into that
> boat over the years, but she is not just a pretty face.  She is probably
> the only 35 Mk II with a below deck autopilot.  There is actually not
> enough room down there for an autopilot, and the installation required many
> custom stainless steel fabrications to make it work.
> 
> Best regards,
> Gary
> 
> ~~~_/)~~
> 
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> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> Gary,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would jump on that boat based on the pictures alone for that price?...
>> If I had it ):  She will go fast (and sell quickly)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I?m sure we have seen her in our travels. It is exactly what my wife wants
>> and she looks absolutely beautiful! I am planning a paint job on my 33 and
>> suddenly red has become a consideration.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good luck and congrats.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Burt
>> 
>> 1974 C&C 33 three quarter tonner
>> 
>> On the hard in Walpole, MA
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 07:29:08 -0400
> From: "John and Maryann Read" 
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> HI Edd
> 
> 
> 
> Our prior boat was a Galaxy 32 with a Mitsubishi 3 cylinder that blew a hole 
> in a piston which was traced to an improperly installed exhaust that allowed 
> water back to the cylinders.  This was about 20 years ago.  We went to a Beta 
> (30??) and were very pleased with the result ? brand new everything, easily 
> installed after some minor tweaks to the engine beds, started and ran like a 
> dream, easily maintained.  We sold her 16 years ago and a definite plus to 
> the sale was the ?new? engine.  The boat is still in the area and as far as I 
> know that Beta just keeps chugging along.  On another note, our insurance 
> paid for the engine and install but not for redoing the exhaust.  They would 
> not pay for the cause of the problem but would pay for resulting damage.  I 
> want to say we had Boat US at the time.  Might want to make inquiry with your 
> agent.
> 
> 
> 
> Best of luck
> 
> 
> 
> John and Maryann
> 
> Legacy III
> 
> 1982 C&C 34
> 
> Noank, CT
> 
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> T

Stus-List Long time C&C owner

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

We have owned our 1974 C&C35mkII since 1994, over 24 years. We are the third 
owners and we paid almost the exact same price as the original owner paid, 
exactly 20 years earlier! We have the original invoice that shows it...  
ironically, I worked for the dealership that sold her, new, so that means that 
I would have commissioned her, new! She was sold out of Burr Sailboats in Mt. 
Clemens, Mi and is still kept and sails on Lake St. Clair, with trips to Lake 
Huron and Lake Erie. 
Greg and Patti Swetka
Grosse Pointe Park, MI
S.V. Piper
C&C35mkII 
North Star Sail Club 

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Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains - stories version

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

I also have a 35mkII and I know for a fact that there were never 4 thru hulls. 
Mine aft ones were always teed to the forward ones. The aft ones always held 
water as the hoses went straight down and looped back up over the partial 
bulkheads before connecting to the forward ones. I recently improved that 
condition by attaching 90 degree elbows directly to the drain and then routing 
to the forward tee. 
Greg Swetka 
S.V. Piper
C&C35MKII 
Lake Ste. Clair, MI

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Stus-List Anchor windlass C&C 35 MK II

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

I am having a new stemhead fitting with bow roller fabricated this winter
for Piper. My next step, is looking into a windlass for Piper, as the new
anchor that I purchased is a 35lb Lewmar Delta and I'm not as young as I
used to be. I really like the looks of the low profile Lewmar windlasses but
am not sure if they will work with my mostly rope (with 10' of chain at the
end). Do any listers have experience with installing windlasses on one of
these older 35's? Btw, Piper does not have a deck hatch for the anchor rode,
the rode just enter the bow anchor rode locker through a dorade vent at the
aft end of the locker.

 

Greg Swetka

583 Barrington

Grosse Pointe Park, MI 48230

Ph: 313-207-7704 (mobile)

Email: swe...@att.net

S.V. Piper C&C 35mkII

 

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Stus-List C&C 35mkII Windlass

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

I am having a new stemhead fitting with bow roller fabricated this winter
for Piper. My next step, is looking into a windlass for Piper, as the new
anchor that I purchased is a 35lb Lewmar Delta and I'm not as young as I
used to be. I really like the looks of the low profile Lewmar windlasses but
am not sure if they will work with my mostly rope (with 10' of chain at the
end). Do any listers have experience with installing windlasses on one of
these older 35's? Btw, Piper does not have a deck hatch for the anchor rode,
the rode just enter the bow anchor rode locker through a dorade vent at the
aft end of the locker.

 

Greg Swetka

583 Barrington

Grosse Pointe Park, MI 48230

Ph: 313-207-7704 (mobile)

Email:   swe...@att.net

S.V. Piper C&C 35mkII

 

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Re: Stus-List black water tanks on C&C 35mkII

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

I have a C&C 35mkII 1974 hull #277 and sailed another one when they were new 
and worked at a C&C dealership as a teenager, at about the time they were 
built. They were delivered with a dinky tank, sandwiched between the hull and 
the bulkhead in the head compartment. It was a very unique construction 
technique that incorporated a double wall bladder that was placed through a 
small opening in the head compartment in the shelf. There was a solution of 
epoxy and vermiculite in between the double walls and then they were inflated 
until the epoxy set up. The tank was rated at about 11 gallons but most would 
realistically hold only about 8 if they were lucky. Here in the Great Lakes, 
that just didn't cut it. On Piper, I installed a 40 gallon bladder under the 
forepeak and the removal of the old tank, involved dismantling the cabinetry in 
the head, to then pull the outer bulkhead away enough to remove the old tank. 
It was quite a job, but well worth it in the long run.

Greg Swetka
S.V. Piper
C&C35mkII
Lake St. Clair
Grosse Pointe Park, MI
> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:04:47 -0500
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> That is a good question. I have a 35mkii and it has a black water ?tank? 
> behind the head. It is not connected and I would like to reconnect it. Does 
> any one know what size (gallons) it is? It seem to be somewhat collapsable - 
> is it? Are they robust? Can they be removed/replaced? The only outlet is the 
> pump out on the deck. Can I replumb it so I can pump it out through the 
> thru-hull?
> 
> Cheers,
> Bill Hoyne
> Mithrandir
> ?74 C&C35 MkII
> in Victoria,BC
> 
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:19 PM, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
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>> Does anyone know if the 35MK2 were fitted with black water tanks when 
>> manufactured in the mid-70?s?
>> 
>> Cheers, J-G 
>> Callisto, 33 mk2
>> Victoria BC
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> Subject: Stus-List Volvo Penta 2003 flow lines
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> Hi All,
> I have a Volvo Penta 2003 in my C&C 35 and I developed a leak in the flow 
> line that screws into the injector. Diesel is leaking ( spurting) out between 
> the bolt and the line just above the injector. I cleaned about 500cc out of 
> the bilge :-(  I have not unscrewed it yet and before I do I would like to 
> know what are the options? Can the fitting be re-soldered? Does it have to be 
> replaced? Does anyone know where I can find  replacement flow lines - it?s 
> from the early ?80?s. ( At a reasonable cost?)
> 
> Cheers,
> Bill Hoyne
> Mithrandir
> ?74 C&C35 MkII
> in Victoria,BC
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> I would say that it probably could be repaired but probably won't be worth
> it.  Just get new ones.  I looks like the volvo site should be helpful.  I
> didn't have your engine model so I got stopped pretty early in the search.
> 
> http://www.volvopentastore.com/Engine-Part-Catalog/dm/cart_id.769140284--func.volvo--session_id.100217069--store_id.366
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
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> On Jul 8, 2017 8:14 PM, "Bill Hoyne via CnC-List" 
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>> Hi All,
>> I have a Volvo Penta 2003 in my C&C 35 and I developed a leak in the flow
>> line that screws into the injector. Diesel is leaking ( spurting) out
>> between the bolt and the line just above the injector. I cleaned about
>> 500cc out of the bilge :-(  I have not unscrewed it yet and before I do I
>> would like to know what are the options? Can the fitting be re-soldered?
>> Does it have to be replaced? Does anyone know where I can find  replacement
>> flow lines - it?s from the early ?80?s. ( At a reasonable cost?)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> *Bill Hoyne*
>> Mithrandir
>> ?74 C&C35 MkII
>> in Victoria,BC
>> 
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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 149, Issue 6

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

Re: autopilot selection and installation 

I have a 35mkll that would not work with any of the wheel pilots so I had to go 
with an under deck installation. It is great... quiet unobtrusive and 
responsive. I went with the Raymarine because it was the most popular at the 
time. The installation was tricky due to the lack of exposed rudder shaft, so I 
designed and had a local machine shop fabricate two plates that sandwiched the 
quadrant and gave me the correct distance from the post for mounting the pilot 
ram. I designed it so that bolts fit into the openings in the casting, snug 
against the inner wall so that there was no need to drill holes in the 
quadrant, possibly weakening it. I have been very happy with the installation. 
I believe that I still have templates in Autodesk Inventor. 
Greg Swetka 
S.V. Piper
Lake Ste. Clair, MI


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> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 11:45:31 -0400
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> Hi Tom
> 
> I also have a Harken roller and have been looking for roll pins.  On mine the 
> pins are 1/8? dia and about an inch long.  Canadian Tire has 1/8X3/4.  Also 
> Princess Auto as a package of 120 roll pins of various sizes.  Once I find a 
> 1 inch one I?ll have to file/grind to the right length.
> 
> I believe you will do more damage if you try to drill the roll pins.  They 
> are very hard.  Use a new roll pin and clamp to press the old pin out.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Mike
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>> Hi everyone, I need to replace a foil on my elderly harken furler. They are 
>> joined with roll pins,
>> which will need to be drilled out. Anyone have any idea what size they would 
>> be. Thanks for any help
>> 
>> Tom Power
>> Invictus
>> C&C 30 MK1
>> Fredericton, NB
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> Hi Fred and listers,
> 
> 
> As you know, I am considering a new autopilot. Autopilots are something I 
> know nothing about.
> 
> The Raymarine ST4000 currently installed works but it is very old and is not 
> capable of steering the boat straight in anything other than a relatively 
> flat sea state.
> 
> However, it does the job, after a fashion. Its also quite noisy. Everytime it 
> adjusts course it squeaks. It may only need some lubrication. I will 
> lubricate the wheel over the next few days. Are the new units noisy?
> 
> I have been in the port side lazarette many times. As you can appreciate it 
> is a cramped space. I installed a new Espar heater last winter and crawling 
> in that hole was very uncomfortable even with the port scupper hose removed. 
> 
> I have no plans to sail offshore in a C&C 35. So I wonder if the added 
> expense and difficulty of install for an under deck autopilot is really 
> necessary? Perhaps the new wheel pilots will track better than my old ST4000 
> and offer 
> strong, reliable, quiet performance? 
> 
> I have taken a cursory look the quadrant and rudder post in the past. It 
> doesn't appear to me there is any room to attach anything to the post. I 
> think my only option in that regard is doing what Paul did on his LF 38 and 
> attach 
> 
> the drive to the quadrant.
> 
> This is a project that I will tackle after the current sailing season. At 
> this point I am looking for advice from those who have experience in this 
> area.
> 
> Thanks in advan

Stus-List Best self tailing primary winch replacement for 35 Mk II

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

I love the looks of my beautiful Stainless Barient 28's on my C&C 35MkII, but 
am facing the reality that as I age, self tailing winches are becoming more of 
a necessity rather than a luxury... What have other owners found as the best 
replacement? I want to stay with stainless and fitting the existing hole 
pattern would be a plus... Equal or slightly increased power ratio would also 
be important. Any thoughts would be appreciated. 

Greg
S.V. Piper
C&C 35 MkII
Lk. Saint Clair

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Re: Stus-List Butyl sealant

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Has anyone used the butyl sealant for bedding down the teak handrails?

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Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C&C 35 mkll

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

I am having a bow roller/stemhead fitting made for my C&C 35 mkll... I am 
looking for advice an choosing the proper size and type of anchor to use. My 
fabricator wants to know what I am going to use to properly size the 
fabrication. I am leaning towards the Delta or a cqr/plow style of anchor. I am 
in the Great Lakes, so most of my anchoring is in weeds, mud, clay and some 
sand. 

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>   2. Re:  Butyl sealant (Dennis C.)
>   3. Re:  Butyl sealant (Kevin Driscoll)
>   4.  Slip Choice (robert)
>   5. Re:  Slip Choice (Dennis C.)
>   6. Re:  Slip Choice (Gary Russell)
>   7.  Possible bargain C&C (Chuck Gilchrest)
>   8. Re:  Slip Choice (Steve Thomas)
>   9.  Slip Choice (robert)
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> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:29:06 -0400
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> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
> my old hard drive which cratered... can anyone give me the best source?
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> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
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> Dennis C.
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> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>> my old hard drive which cratered?.. can anyone give me the best source?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Gary
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> What Dennis said. Don't bother with anything else. (I've tried others...)
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>> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>> my old hard drive which cratered?.. can anyone give me the best source?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Gary
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