Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Rick
So that’s topsides and boot stripe(s) only, or hole Hull as well?

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On Mar 12, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
wrote:


I had Imzadi painted in the early spring of 2017 - almost exactly 3 years ago. 
On the recommendation of the guy who does most of th ework I can't do myself, 
we used Alexseal 2-part paint. Alexseal is an alternative to Awlgrip or Imron. 
William reports very good results, and uses it for most of the paintwork he 
does. Comes on a pretty wide range of colors, one of which was a bit darker 
than the faded smoke white of Imzadi's hull and might be a close match to the 
original C color. One big advantage of the Alexseal paint is that it is about 
half the cost of Awlgrip. My cost for getting the boat prepped and painted 
(white topsides, triple red boot stripe, red cove stripe, red transom) was 
$125/foot - about $4800.

The paint has held up very well. Have had some black streaks from black 
rubstrips on an floating dock that washed right off. Had one scratch from a 
bolthead sticking out of a piling, which turned out to be an easy repair using 
some surplus from the original paint. The red transom shows no signs of fading 
yet.

Maintenance is to wash every 3 to 6 months with mild soap and water, and to 
wash annually with a product they sell which I presume is similar to Awlcare. 
BTW, the Alexseal website also lists other alternatives to their maintenance 
product - one of which I recall is made by Meguiars and is available from my 
local West Marine.

In all honesty, there was one small problem when the boat was painted. When 
they sprayed the red for the boot stripes and cove stripes over the white hull, 
the thin red paint leached under the edge of the green 3M masking tape amd left 
a fuzzy edge. So William had to touch up the white, remask the stripes with 
this fiendishly expensive 3M gold masking tape, and reshoot the red stripes. No 
 problem using the higher quality tape.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC
-Original Message-
From: Richard Bush via CnC-List
Sent: Mar 6, 2020 2:45 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Richard Bush
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if so, 
what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are 
there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!

Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255

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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

The best tape to use to get a sharp line is green Frog Tape. It's available
at Home Depot.

Alan Bergen

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:50 AM Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had Imzadi painted in the early spring of 2017 - almost exactly 3 years
> ago. On the recommendation of the guy who does most of th ework I can't do
> myself, we used Alexseal 2-part paint. Alexseal is an alternative to
> Awlgrip or Imron. William reports very good results, and uses it for most
> of the paintwork he does. Comes on a pretty wide range of colors, one of
> which was a bit darker than the faded smoke white of Imzadi's hull and
> might be a close match to the original C color. One big advantage of the
> Alexseal paint is that it is about half the cost of Awlgrip. My cost for
> getting the boat prepped and painted (white topsides, triple red boot
> stripe, red cove stripe, red transom) was $125/foot - about $4800.
>
> The paint has held up very well. Have had some black streaks from black
> rubstrips on an floating dock that washed right off. Had one scratch from a
> bolthead sticking out of a piling, which turned out to be an easy repair
> using some surplus from the original paint. The red transom shows no signs
> of fading yet.
>
> Maintenance is to wash every 3 to 6 months with mild soap and water, and
> to wash annually with a product they sell which I presume is similar to
> Awlcare. BTW, the Alexseal website also lists other alternatives to their
> maintenance product - one of which I recall is made by Meguiars and is
> available from my local West Marine.
>
> In all honesty, there was one small problem when the boat was painted.
> When they sprayed the red for the boot stripes and cove stripes over the
> white hull, the thin red paint leached under the edge of the green 3M
> masking tape amd left a fuzzy edge. So William had to touch up the white,
> remask the stripes with this fiendishly expensive 3M gold masking tape, and
> reshoot the red stripes. No  problem using the higher quality tape.
>
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Bush via CnC-List
> Sent: Mar 6, 2020 2:45 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Richard Bush
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls
>
> This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls;
> if so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the
> work; are there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots,
> etcthanks!
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I had Imzadi painted in the early spring of 2017 - almost exactly 3 years ago. On the recommendation of the guy who does most of th ework I can't do myself, we used Alexseal 2-part paint. Alexseal is an alternative to Awlgrip or Imron. William reports very good results, and uses it for most of the paintwork he does. Comes on a pretty wide range of colors, one of which was a bit darker than the faded smoke white of Imzadi's hull and might be a close match to the original C color. One big advantage of the Alexseal paint is that it is about half the cost of Awlgrip. My cost for getting the boat prepped and painted (white topsides, triple red boot stripe, red cove stripe, red transom) was $125/foot - about $4800.The paint has held up very well. Have had some black streaks from black rubstrips on an floating dock that washed right off. Had one scratch from a bolthead sticking out of a piling, which turned out to be an easy repair using some surplus from the original paint. The red transom shows no signs of fading yet.Maintenance is to wash every 3 to 6 months with mild soap and water, and to wash annually with a product they sell which I presume is similar to Awlcare. BTW, the Alexseal website also lists other alternatives to their maintenance product - one of which I recall is made by Meguiars and is available from my local West Marine.In all honesty, there was one small problem when the boat was painted. When they sprayed the red for the boot stripes and cove stripes over the white hull, the thin red paint leached under the edge of the green 3M masking tape amd left a fuzzy edge. So William had to touch up the white, remask the stripes with this fiendishly expensive 3M gold masking tape, and reshoot the red stripes. No  problem using the higher quality tape.Rick BrassWashington, NC-Original Message-
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Richard Bush 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls



 This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!


 



Richard

 

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;





Richard N. Bush Law Offices 


2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 


Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 


502-584-7255


 



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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

I had my topsides painted with awlgrip 3 years ago.  It looks fantastic and
maintenance is pretty straight forward It takes a lot less effort than
gelcoat in the spring.  I follow the recommended cleaning and protection 2x
per season.

However, as I found out while docking single handed in a very high
cross-wind, it can scratch easily.  Also, if you shrink-wrap your boat in
the winter, you can't do that if you have awlgrip.

Cheers,

Mike
Atacama C 33 mkii
Toronto

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020, 1:46 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

> This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls;
> if so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the
> work; are there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots,
> etcthanks!
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Callisto was rolled and tipped with Pettit EzPoxy (I think, that is the can
on the boat) in red about 4-5 years ago, and is not holding up well.
Polishing and waxing brought the colour back, but a few months into summer,
it was already showed signs of oxidation.

I agree on the comment about keeping gelcoat if you can, unless it's red.
In that case, trying to keep it bright will drive you crazy. Callisto came
with a letter from C to the original owner, dated 1979 (so 5 years old),
responding to his complaint about fading red gelcoat; they stated that it
was "normal".

She faces East in her slip, so the transom is baked in the afternoon sun,
and the starboard side is noticeably more faded than port; I suppose I
should rotate her to even things out...

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:22 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> When I got Peregrine, my C 40,  her topsides were painted Awl Grip Pearl
> Gray. The paint was 10 years old when I sold her and still looked great. I
> maintained the paint by washing it with a soft brush and Awl Wash every 3
> or 4 weeks or so, and waxing with Awl Care at the beginning and end of the
> season.
> I really like Awl Grip for topsides or decks; it's fabulous paint. But I
> would only resort to painting my topsides if I'd exhausted all efforts to
> bring the gel coat back up to snuff. For a fiberglass boat, gelcoat is far
> better. the gelcoat on my current boat is 25 years old and looks terrific.
> No paint will last that long. But don't be fooled into thinking that
> spraying on new gel coat over old will work. In that case Awl Grip is the
> better choice, because you get a better bond with the substrate.
> Andy
> Masquerade
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> https://burtonsailing.com/
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 2:04 PM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I had my hull painted dark green (previously black); it was not Awlgrip,
>> but a suitable Imron-like PPG paint as I recall; the cost for my 42 (about
>> seven or eight years ago) was around $7K; it was done outdoors, so there
>> are a few minor imperfections – but it looked great (lots of compliments);
>> aside from a few scrapes (mostly my human error), it has held up quite
>> well; no maintenance issues – I use a one-step cleaner/wax in the spring,
>> like you might use for a car, and I’m good to go.  I can get the name of
>> the paint if you would like.  As I recall, the painter chose the paint
>> because it is relatively easy to do repair work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Richard
>> Bush via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2020 1:46 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Richard Bush 
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls;
>> if so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the
>> work; are there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots,
>> etcthanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
>>
>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>>
>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
>>
>> 502-584-7255
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Had Touche' painted with Awlcraft 2000 Sunfast Red in 2011.  (Awlcraft is
easier to repair than AwlGrip.)

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsZWl4THRKbnNmbGM

Wash it periodically with AwlWash and polish it with AwlCare.  Sides still
look great.  Seeing a bit of fading on the transom.  In Touche' Pensacola
slip. the transom faces the sun most of the day.  Accordingly, I apply
AwlCare polish to the transom much more often than the sides.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 12:46 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls;
> if so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the
> work; are there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots,
> etcthanks!
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

It does look great, but it is hot. For a balsa core boat probably not 
noticeable, but for a solid boat it is.


Joe

Coquina

original color 1973 to 1979:

http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/earlycoquina1.jpg

dark blue 1979-2020:

http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/coquina1.jpg


On 3/6/2020 2:56 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List wrote:
I have received the "don't go with a dark color" advice many times, 
but if you look at the vast majority of anything that isn't a form of 
white, they are invariably Navy or Flag blue...and they look great!


Thanks for all the responses thus far... (and keep 'em coming!);

Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Joe Della Barba 
Sent: Fri, Mar 6, 2020 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

Coquina was painted dark blue in 1979 and again in 1985. The paint has
done well, no fading or anything, more like just gloss fading to not so
glossy. The boat *really* needs another paint job, but that is from
getting run into or other signs of use over the decades, not paint
failure. I am not sure I would do a dark color on a solid glass boat
again, you get solar heating in December and also July.

Joe

Coquina



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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List]

Previous owner had Caposhi awl gripped in 2006. Still looks good. There is
some deck spots that need to be touched up due to previous owner neglect.

Jeff
Caposhi C 35 mk 1 #54
Port Stanley On.

On Fri., Mar. 6, 2020, 1:46 p.m. Richard Bush via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls;
> if so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the
> work; are there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots,
> etcthanks!
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

That would undoubtedly be PPG Concept. I used that as well, at least as good as 
Awlgrip.

 

Bill Coleman

 

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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 2:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

 

I had my hull painted dark green (previously black); it was not Awlgrip, but a 
suitable Imron-like PPG paint as I recall; the cost for my 42 (about seven or 
eight years ago) was around $7K; it was done outdoors, so there are a few minor 
imperfections – but it looked great (lots of compliments); aside from a few 
scrapes (mostly my human error), it has held up quite well; no maintenance 
issues – I use a one-step cleaner/wax in the spring, like you might use for a 
car, and I’m good to go.  I can get the name of the paint if you would like.  
As I recall, the painter chose the paint because it is relatively easy to do 
repair work.

 

Good luck.

 

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CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 1:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Richard Bush 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

 

This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if so, 
what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are 
there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!

 

Richard

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 

2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 

Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 

502-584-7255

 

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[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Red is the absolute hardest color to make colorfast. 

 

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Alimenti via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

 

I applied Awlgrip to my topsides and deck in 2001.   The ‘vivid red’ on the 
topsides is fading but polishes up well in the Spring.  I have had to repaint 
the transom on my 29 Mk1 twice since then and I repainted the deck (offwhite) 
in 2017.

 

Greg Alimenti

St. Joseph, MI

C 29 Mk1

 

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via CnC-List
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

 

This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if so, 
what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are 
there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!

 

Richard

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 

2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 

Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 

502-584-7255

 

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[Greg Alimenti via CnC-List]

I applied Awlgrip to my topsides and deck in 2001.   The ‘vivid red’ on the 
topsides is fading but polishes up well in the Spring.  I have had to repaint 
the transom on my 29 Mk1 twice since then and I repainted the deck (offwhite) 
in 2017.

Greg Alimenti
St. Joseph, MI
C 29 Mk1

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Cc: Richard Bush 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if so, 
what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are 
there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!

Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255

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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 I have received the "don't go with a dark color" advice many times, but if you 
look at the vast majority of anything that isn't a form of white, they are 
invariably Navy or Flag blue...and they look great!

 Thanks for all the responses thus far... (and keep 'em coming!); 
Richard
 s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Joe Della Barba 
Sent: Fri, Mar 6, 2020 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

Coquina was painted dark blue in 1979 and again in 1985. The paint has 
done well, no fading or anything, more like just gloss fading to not so 
glossy. The boat *really* needs another paint job, but that is from 
getting run into or other signs of use over the decades, not paint 
failure. I am not sure I would do a dark color on a solid glass boat 
again, you get solar heating in December and also July.

Joe

Coquina


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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

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Depends on who is doing the prep work? Is it being done in the yard or at a 
proper Marine shop?  Mine should have come in at under C$20K but I did a lot of 
the deck removal, sanding and prep work.  Actual cost was much higher (don’t 
ask).  I was quoted $25K for the deck by a Marine shop.   The topsides would 
have been about the same cost.

Really, labour is the major cost for the job in my experience.  If you are down 
south you could probably get the job done at a cheaper rate.

Glen Eddie
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

Glen $$$?
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On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List  
wrote:

We did our C 35 Mk I two years ago.  Both topsides and deck.  Topsides were 
done with Awlcraft plus clear coat and awlgrip for the deck.  I am very happy 
with the result.  Make sure you get someone who is a professional on the gun 
for painting.

Glen Eddie
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

Richard,

Our boat was originally red and painted dark blue with Awlgrip at least 15 
years ago.  We are the 3rd owner since it was painted so I am a little unsure 
of the exact time frame.  The previous owner recommended the Awlgrip soap and 
polish in the spring, and we have continued that.  We have some spider 
cracking, but for the most part the hull looks beautiful.  We get a lot of 
compliments on the appearance of the boat and people are amazed to find out 
that it is a 15 year old paint job.

Jim Reinardy
C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI

- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls
From: "Richard Bush via CnC-List" 
Date: 3/6/20 11:45 am
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: "Richard Bush" 
This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if so, 
what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are 
there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!

Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255

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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

Coquina was painted dark blue in 1979 and again in 1985. The paint has 
done well, no fading or anything, more like just gloss fading to not so 
glossy. The boat *really* needs another paint job, but that is from 
getting run into or other signs of use over the decades, not paint 
failure. I am not sure I would do a dark color on a solid glass boat 
again, you get solar heating in December and also July.


Joe

Coquina


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Glen $$$?

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List  
wrote:


We did our C 35 Mk I two years ago.  Both topsides and deck.  Topsides were 
done with Awlcraft plus clear coat and awlgrip for the deck.  I am very happy 
with the result.  Make sure you get someone who is a professional on the gun 
for painting.

Glen Eddie
Tel:  416-777-5357
Fax:  1-888-812-2557
Torkin Manes LLP
Barristers & Solicitors
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Reinardy 
via CnC-List
Sent: March-06-20 02:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: firewa...@reinardy.us
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

Richard,

Our boat was originally red and painted dark blue with Awlgrip at least 15 
years ago.  We are the 3rd owner since it was painted so I am a little unsure 
of the exact time frame.  The previous owner recommended the Awlgrip soap and 
polish in the spring, and we have continued that.  We have some spider 
cracking, but for the most part the hull looks beautiful.  We get a lot of 
compliments on the appearance of the boat and people are amazed to find out 
that it is a 15 year old paint job.

Jim Reinardy
C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI

- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls
From: "Richard Bush via CnC-List" 
Date: 3/6/20 11:45 am
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: "Richard Bush" 
This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if so, 
what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are 
there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!

Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255

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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

When I got Peregrine, my C 40,  her topsides were painted Awl Grip Pearl
Gray. The paint was 10 years old when I sold her and still looked great. I
maintained the paint by washing it with a soft brush and Awl Wash every 3
or 4 weeks or so, and waxing with Awl Care at the beginning and end of the
season.
I really like Awl Grip for topsides or decks; it's fabulous paint. But I
would only resort to painting my topsides if I'd exhausted all efforts to
bring the gel coat back up to snuff. For a fiberglass boat, gelcoat is far
better. the gelcoat on my current boat is 25 years old and looks terrific.
No paint will last that long. But don't be fooled into thinking that
spraying on new gel coat over old will work. In that case Awl Grip is the
better choice, because you get a better bond with the substrate.
Andy
Masquerade


Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
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On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 2:04 PM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had my hull painted dark green (previously black); it was not Awlgrip,
> but a suitable Imron-like PPG paint as I recall; the cost for my 42 (about
> seven or eight years ago) was around $7K; it was done outdoors, so there
> are a few minor imperfections – but it looked great (lots of compliments);
> aside from a few scrapes (mostly my human error), it has held up quite
> well; no maintenance issues – I use a one-step cleaner/wax in the spring,
> like you might use for a car, and I’m good to go.  I can get the name of
> the paint if you would like.  As I recall, the painter chose the paint
> because it is relatively easy to do repair work.
>
>
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Bush via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2020 1:46 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Richard Bush 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls
>
>
>
> This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls;
> if so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the
> work; are there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots,
> etcthanks!
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
>
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
>
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
>
> 502-584-7255
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

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Grenadine is going into her second season with a hull paint job done in October 
2018.  It was four coats of Interlux Brightside, rolled and tipped, with 
successively finer sanding before each coat and successive thinning of the 
paint each coat.  I let the paint harden over the winter of 2018/2019, then put 
on two coats of carnuba wax in the spring (after repainting the boot stripe and 
putting her name decals back on).  I hired the bottom and hull painting out to 
a guy named Larry Hofarth whose business is named Sailboat Spa.  Very happy 
with his work, and how the boat looked last season (photos at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AgG7585KNUspS1W8TsyUGq8hFgeP997h 
).  He 
power-sanded the bottom and put on two coats VC-17, and last summer he painted 
the deck, cabintop, and cockpit for me while the boat was in her slip.

In the next few weeks I’m going to touch up a couple scratches and put on 
another coat of wax.  Too early to tell how well the paint job will hold up 
over time.

This was at least her second paint job.  I could tell from scratches before 
getting her painted that a previous owner had put grey primer over the gelcoat, 
then painted the boat her original red color.  The original gelcoat had faded, 
and the previous paint job was badly oxidized.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30 MK I #79
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Mar 6, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if 
> so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; 
> are there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, 
> etcthanks!
> 
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
> 
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
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Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

[Glen Eddie via CnC-List]

We did our C 35 Mk I two years ago.  Both topsides and deck.  Topsides were 
done with Awlcraft plus clear coat and awlgrip for the deck.  I am very happy 
with the result.  Make sure you get someone who is a professional on the gun 
for painting.

Glen Eddie
Tel:  416-777-5357
Fax:  1-888-812-2557
Torkin Manes LLP
Barristers & Solicitors
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Cc: firewa...@reinardy.us
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

Richard,

Our boat was originally red and painted dark blue with Awlgrip at least 15 
years ago.  We are the 3rd owner since it was painted so I am a little unsure 
of the exact time frame.  The previous owner recommended the Awlgrip soap and 
polish in the spring, and we have continued that.  We have some spider 
cracking, but for the most part the hull looks beautiful.  We get a lot of 
compliments on the appearance of the boat and people are amazed to find out 
that it is a 15 year old paint job.

Jim Reinardy
C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI

- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls
From: "Richard Bush via CnC-List" 
Date: 3/6/20 11:45 am
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: "Richard Bush" 
This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if so, 
what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are 
there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!

Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255

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[Jim Reinardy via CnC-List]

Richard,
 
Our boat was originally red and painted dark blue with Awlgrip at least 15 
years ago.  We are the 3rd owner since it was painted so I am a little unsure 
of the exact time frame.  The previous owner recommended the Awlgrip soap and 
polish in the spring, and we have continued that.  We have some spider 
cracking, but for the most part the hull looks beautiful.  We get a lot of 
compliments on the appearance of the boat and people are amazed to find out 
that it is a 15 year old paint job.  
 
Jim Reinardy
C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI
 
- Original Message - Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip 
Hulls
From: "Richard Bush via CnC-List" 
Date: 3/6/20 11:45 am
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: "Richard Bush" 

  This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if 
so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are 
there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!
 
Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
 

 
Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
 
502-584-7255

 
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[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

I had my hull painted dark green (previously black); it was not Awlgrip, but a 
suitable Imron-like PPG paint as I recall; the cost for my 42 (about seven or 
eight years ago) was around $7K; it was done outdoors, so there are a few minor 
imperfections – but it looked great (lots of compliments); aside from a few 
scrapes (mostly my human error), it has held up quite well; no maintenance 
issues – I use a one-step cleaner/wax in the spring, like you might use for a 
car, and I’m good to go.  I can get the name of the paint if you would like.  
As I recall, the painter chose the paint because it is relatively easy to do 
repair work.

 

Good luck.

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Richard Bush via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 1:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Richard Bush 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

 

This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if so, 
what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are 
there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!

 

Richard

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 

2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 

Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 

502-584-7255

 

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[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if 
so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are 
there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks!
 
Richard
 s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
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