Re: Stus-List Photo Album update

2013-09-13 Thread Andrew Burton
Stu, it's US WaterCRAFT. They've been making my Shields and J/80 fast and
beautiful for years and I know them well. In fact, Will used to sail with
me on the Shields and sailed at least 25,000 miles with me on deliveries.
He's a really good guy and one of the smartest people I know. My opinion is
that they will do great things with the brand. I'm pretty excited they're
involved.
Andy
CC 40
Peregrine



On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com wrote:

   Since USWatersports acquired CC Yachts I have been in contact with
 them and hope they give full support to the Photo Album.

 In order to keep everyone up-to-date, I have added a new category on our
 Forum strictly pertaining to USWatersports and the new CC’s.  It’s right
 at the top of the page.

 I have also added an area where you can add your comments and ask your
 questions – hopefully Will Harris, Barry Carroll and others will post.

 You must be registered as a user in order to post on the Forum.

 Stu



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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread dwight veinot
Good advice Marek, thank you.right now I have about 40 GB backed up on a 1
TB external hard drive that sits beside my HP desktop.never thought about it
but that's not enough if real tragedy strikes.  I can probably dump all of
that to a memory stick and store outside of my home.mostly photos, music and
documents I have written.

 

Dwight Veinot

CC 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek
Dziedzic
Sent: April 5, 2013 3:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

A piece of advise to all of us. Someone already provided a longer list of
things one should do to protect our files form theft.

 

I hesitate to say this, especially, since this is too late for Stu. But I
learned this the hard way, as well, so at least I know how it feels when
your home is burglarised and your privacy violated.

 

One thing that many of us don't think in protecting our files is the
off-site backup. Many of us, if not most, have learned that having some
backup is a good thing, especially if the things go wrong. One step further
is the off-site backup. the process is very simple: buy a portable disk
drive (nowadays you can get multiple TBs for around $100); do a full backup
of all your files (pay extra attention to pictures and personal records
(most of the time if the electronic copies are gone, there is no way to
retrieve this information)), store the disk OUTSIDE of your home (if you
still work, your office is a good place; if you don't, put it in your bank's
safety deposit box, at your children's, at your friends'). Bring the disk in
every 3-6 months (depending on your personal level of paranoia) and repeat
the procedure. If you are as paranoid as I am, by a second HD and rotate
(each is used on a 6-month period, but the procedure is repeated every 3
months).

 

The problem is that we learn these things after the fact.

 

(a full disclosure - I do not have any interest in any HD manufacturing
company (would we notice an uptick in HD prices over the next month or so?))

 

good luck, Stu and Gladys, in recovering form the disaster.

 

Marek (in Ottawa)

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread Joel Aronson
I have a HD and use SugarSync - similar to DropBox - so a copy is in the
cloud.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis


On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM, dwight veinot
dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.cawrote:

 ** ** **

 Good advice Marek, thank you…right now I have about 40 GB backed up on a 1
 TB external hard drive that sits beside my HP desktop…never thought about
 it but that’s not enough if real tragedy strikes.  I can probably dump all
 of that to a memory stick and store outside of my home…mostly photos, music
 and documents I have written…

 ** **

 Dwight Veinot

 CC 35 MKII, Alianna

 Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 ** **
  --

 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek
 Dziedzic
 *Sent:* April 5, 2013 3:06 PM
 *To:* **cnc-list@cnc-list.com**
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 ** **

 A piece of advise to all of us. Someone already provided a longer list of
 things one should do to protect our files form theft.

  

 I hesitate to say this, especially, since this is too late for Stu. But I
 learned this the hard way, as well, so at least I know how it feels when
 your home is burglarised and your privacy violated.

  

 One thing that many of us don't think in protecting our files is the
 off-site backup. Many of us, if not most, have learned that having some
 backup is a good thing, especially if the things go wrong. One step further
 is the off-site backup. the process is very simple: buy a portable disk
 drive (nowadays you can get multiple TBs for around $100); do a full backup
 of all your files (pay extra attention to pictures and personal records
 (most of the time if the electronic copies are gone, there is no way to
 retrieve this information)), store the disk OUTSIDE of your home (if you
 still work, your office is a good place; if you don't, put it in your
 bank's safety deposit box, at your children's, at your friends'). Bring the
 disk in every 3-6 months (depending on your personal level of paranoia) and
 repeat the procedure. If you are as paranoid as I am, by a second HD and
 rotate (each is used on a 6-month period, but the procedure is repeated
 every 3 months).

  

 The problem is that we learn these things after the fact.

  

 (a full disclosure - I do not have any interest in any HD manufacturing
 company (would we notice an uptick in HD prices over the next month or so?))
 

  

 good luck, Stu and Gladys, in recovering form the disaster.

  

 Marek (in Ottawa)

  

  
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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread Neil Andersen
And exposed to security breaches and policy changes regarding ownership and
privacy (just like the recent picture sharing site notified that pictures
posted become their property).  Use with an awareness of what the 'cloud'
means (including it may exist outside the US and subject to different laws.

 

Neil

CC32

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 2:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

I have a HD and use SugarSync - similar to DropBox - so a copy is in the
cloud.

 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis

 

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM, dwight veinot dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca
wrote:

Good advice Marek, thank you.right now I have about 40 GB backed up on a 1
TB external hard drive that sits beside my HP desktop.never thought about it
but that's not enough if real tragedy strikes.  I can probably dump all of
that to a memory stick and store outside of my home.mostly photos, music and
documents I have written.

 

Dwight Veinot

CC 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek
Dziedzic
Sent: April 5, 2013 3:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

A piece of advise to all of us. Someone already provided a longer list of
things one should do to protect our files form theft.

 

I hesitate to say this, especially, since this is too late for Stu. But I
learned this the hard way, as well, so at least I know how it feels when
your home is burglarised and your privacy violated.

 

One thing that many of us don't think in protecting our files is the
off-site backup. Many of us, if not most, have learned that having some
backup is a good thing, especially if the things go wrong. One step further
is the off-site backup. the process is very simple: buy a portable disk
drive (nowadays you can get multiple TBs for around $100); do a full backup
of all your files (pay extra attention to pictures and personal records
(most of the time if the electronic copies are gone, there is no way to
retrieve this information)), store the disk OUTSIDE of your home (if you
still work, your office is a good place; if you don't, put it in your bank's
safety deposit box, at your children's, at your friends'). Bring the disk in
every 3-6 months (depending on your personal level of paranoia) and repeat
the procedure. If you are as paranoid as I am, by a second HD and rotate
(each is used on a 6-month period, but the procedure is repeated every 3
months).

 

The problem is that we learn these things after the fact.

 

(a full disclosure - I do not have any interest in any HD manufacturing
company (would we notice an uptick in HD prices over the next month or so?))

 

good luck, Stu and Gladys, in recovering form the disaster.

 

Marek (in Ottawa)

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread Joel Aronson
Neil,

You are correct.  You pay your money, you take your chances.

Joel


On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Neil Andersen
neil.eric.ander...@gmail.comwrote:

 And exposed to security breaches and policy changes regarding ownership
 and privacy (just like the recent picture sharing site notified that
 pictures posted become their property).  Use with an awareness of what the
 ‘cloud’ means (including it may exist outside the US and subject to
 different laws.

 ** **

 Neil

 CC32

 ** **

 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
 Aronson
 *Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2013 2:25 PM

 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 ** **

 I have a HD and use SugarSync - similar to DropBox - so a copy is in the
 cloud.

 ** **

 Joel

 35/3

 Annapolis

 ** **

 On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM, dwight veinot 
 dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca wrote:

 Good advice Marek, thank you…right now I have about 40 GB backed up on a 1
 TB external hard drive that sits beside my HP desktop…never thought about
 it but that’s not enough if real tragedy strikes.  I can probably dump all
 of that to a memory stick and store outside of my home…mostly photos, music
 and documents I have written…

  

 Dwight Veinot

 CC 35 MKII, Alianna

 Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

  
 --

 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek
 Dziedzic
 *Sent:* April 5, 2013 3:06 PM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

  

 A piece of advise to all of us. Someone already provided a longer list of
 things one should do to protect our files form theft.

  

 I hesitate to say this, especially, since this is too late for Stu. But I
 learned this the hard way, as well, so at least I know how it feels when
 your home is burglarised and your privacy violated.

  

 One thing that many of us don't think in protecting our files is the
 off-site backup. Many of us, if not most, have learned that having some
 backup is a good thing, especially if the things go wrong. One step further
 is the off-site backup. the process is very simple: buy a portable disk
 drive (nowadays you can get multiple TBs for around $100); do a full backup
 of all your files (pay extra attention to pictures and personal records
 (most of the time if the electronic copies are gone, there is no way to
 retrieve this information)), store the disk OUTSIDE of your home (if you
 still work, your office is a good place; if you don't, put it in your
 bank's safety deposit box, at your children's, at your friends'). Bring the
 disk in every 3-6 months (depending on your personal level of paranoia) and
 repeat the procedure. If you are as paranoid as I am, by a second HD and
 rotate (each is used on a 6-month period, but the procedure is repeated
 every 3 months).

  

 The problem is that we learn these things after the fact.

  

 (a full disclosure - I do not have any interest in any HD manufacturing
 company (would we notice an uptick in HD prices over the next month or so?))
 

  

 good luck, Stu and Gladys, in recovering form the disaster.

  

 Marek (in Ottawa)

  

  
 --

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread Neil Andersen
FYI:

 

Some research and it appears that upon receiving a request from law
enforcement for your files, they will provide the information without your
consent. It doesn't specify about files that have been deleted, but they are
obligated to provide any information they have about you, which would likely
include deleted files. 

Here is the quote from Dropbox Terms of Service: 

Compliance with Laws and Law Enforcement Requests; Protection of Dropbox's
Rights.   We may disclose to parties outside Dropbox files stored in your
Dropbox and information about you that we collect when we have a good faith
belief that disclosure is reasonably necessary to (a) comply with a law,
regulation or compulsory legal request; (b) protect the safety of any person
from death or serious bodily injury; (c) prevent fraud or abuse of Dropbox
or its users; or (d) to protect Dropbox's property rights. If we provide
your Dropbox files to a law enforcement agency as set forth above, we will
remove Dropbox's encryption from the files before providing them to law
enforcement. However, Dropbox will not be able to decrypt any files that you
encrypted prior to storing them on Dropbox.(Dropbox, 2012)

Dropbox. (2012, Oct 15). Dropbox privacy policy. Retrieved on 30 Mar 2013
from https://www.dropbox.com/privacy

 

 

From: Neil Andersen [mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 2:41 PM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
Subject: RE: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

And exposed to security breaches and policy changes regarding ownership and
privacy (just like the recent picture sharing site notified that pictures
posted become their property).  Use with an awareness of what the 'cloud'
means (including it may exist outside the US and subject to different laws.

 

Neil

CC32

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 2:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

I have a HD and use SugarSync - similar to DropBox - so a copy is in the
cloud.

 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread Frederick G Street
Guys -- all this is great info.  But what exactly are we doing to financially 
support Stu, so he can afford all this stuff?

Contribute now -- operators are standing by...

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Neil Andersen neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com wrote:

 FYI:
  
 Some research and it appears that upon receiving a request from law 
 enforcement for your files, they will provide the information without your 
 consent. It doesn't specify about files that have been deleted, but they are 
 obligated to provide any information they have about you, which would likely 
 include deleted files. 

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread dwight veinot
Fred

 

I am not exactly sure that is a good idea yet. Maybe Stu doesn't even know
yet what will be covered by his insurance and he may get some things
replaced with better than he lost.  That takes time and usually it's a PITA
dealing with insurance companies about claims.  However, what I understand
is that he won't be able to replace those precious personal belongings which
got stolen and that there will be a lot of work involved with getting back
to where he was with the website, but he seems determined to get on with
that.   Monetary contributions can't help to get those precious personal
belongings back or to relieve the lasting feelings that result from having
his private personal space violated.  I am sure it is comforting for him and
Gladys to know that members here stand ready to help as best we can.

 

Dwight Veinot

CC 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street
Sent: April 5, 2013 3:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

Guys -- all this is great info.  But what exactly are we doing to
financially support Stu, so he can afford all this stuff?

 

Contribute now -- operators are standing by...


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Neil Andersen neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com
wrote:





FYI:

 

Some research and it appears that upon receiving a request from law
enforcement for your files, they will provide the information without your
consent. It doesn't specify about files that have been deleted, but they are
obligated to provide any information they have about you, which would likely
include deleted files. 

 

  _  

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread Frederick G Street
Right -- but we don't necessarily cover his costs for the Photo Album now; if 
everyone's suggesting he buy this hard drive or that Cloud backup service to 
protect his (our) stuff, he'll be even more out-of-pocket than he is already.

This group is an incredibly valuable resource -- definitely worth supporting 
monetarily.  Let's put our money where our mouths are, and show Stu we support 
him in more than just thanks.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:30 PM, dwight veinot dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca wrote:

 Fred
  
 I am not exactly sure that is a good idea yet. Maybe Stu doesn’t even know 
 yet what will be covered by his insurance and he may get some things replaced 
 with better than he lost.  That takes time and usually it’s a PITA dealing 
 with insurance companies about claims.  However, what I understand is that he 
 won’t be able to replace those precious personal belongings which got stolen 
 and that there will be a lot of work involved with getting back to where he 
 was with the website, but he seems determined to get on with that.   Monetary 
 contributions can’t help to get those precious personal belongings back or to 
 relieve the lasting feelings that result from having his private personal 
 space violated.  I am sure it is comforting for him and Gladys to know that 
 members here stand ready to help as best we can.

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread dwight veinot
I don't think everyone is suggesting he do that type of backup but I
personally valued the suggestions on back up because I am not adequately
backed up now and I did not realize that so I will address it personally
right away.

 

No dispute from here on the value of the group resource; that I assure you.
Contribute freely if you wish, I think that's the way it is setup.it's just
that money does not solve all problems

 

Dwight Veinot

CC 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street
Sent: April 5, 2013 6:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

Right -- but we don't necessarily cover his costs for the Photo Album now;
if everyone's suggesting he buy this hard drive or that Cloud backup service
to protect his (our) stuff, he'll be even more out-of-pocket than he is
already.

 

This group is an incredibly valuable resource -- definitely worth supporting
monetarily.  Let's put our money where our mouths are, and show Stu we
support him in more than just thanks.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:30 PM, dwight veinot dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca
wrote:





Fred

 

I am not exactly sure that is a good idea yet. Maybe Stu doesn't even know
yet what will be covered by his insurance and he may get some things
replaced with better than he lost.  That takes time and usually it's a PITA
dealing with insurance companies about claims.  However, what I understand
is that he won't be able to replace those precious personal belongings which
got stolen and that there will be a lot of work involved with getting back
to where he was with the website, but he seems determined to get on with
that.   Monetary contributions can't help to get those precious personal
belongings back or to relieve the lasting feelings that result from having
his private personal space violated.  I am sure it is comforting for him and
Gladys to know that members here stand ready to help as best we can.

 

  _  

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread sam . c . salter
It would solve most of mine! sam :-) 403-617-6280From: dwight veinotSent: Friday, April 5, 2013 4:06 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update



















I don’t think everyone is
suggesting he do that type of backup but I personally valued the suggestions on
back up because I am not adequately backed up now and I did not realize that so
I will address it personally right away.



No dispute from here on the value of the
group resource; that I assure you. Contribute freely if you wish, I think
that’s the way it is setup…it’s just that money does not
solve all problems





Dwight Veinot

CC 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS













From: CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of Frederick G
  Street
Sent: April 5, 2013 6:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album
Update





Right -- but we don't
necessarily cover his costs for the Photo Album now; if everyone's suggesting
he buy this hard drive or that Cloud backup service to protect his (our) stuff,
he'll be even more out-of-pocket than he is already.









This group is an
incredibly valuable resource -- definitely worth supporting monetarily.
Let's put our money where our mouths are, and show Stu we support him in
more than just thanks.






Fred
  Street -- Minneapolis
S/VOceanis(1979
CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield,
 WI:^(















On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:30
PM, dwight veinot dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca
wrote:









Fred











I am
not exactly sure that is a good idea yet. Maybe Stu doesn’t even know yet
what will be covered by his insurance and he may get some things replaced with
better than he lost. That takes time and usually it’s a PITA
dealing with insurance companies about claims. However, what I understand
is that he won’t be able to replace those precious personal belongings
which got stolen and that there will be a lot of work involved with getting
back to where he was with the website, but he seems determined to get on with
that. Monetary contributions can’t help to get those precious
personal belongings back or to relieve the lasting feelings that result from
having his private personal space violated. I am sure it is comforting
for him and Gladys to know that members here stand ready to help as best we
can.















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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread dwight veinot
Sam

 

You have a good life.health, relationships, etc., others may not be so lucky

 

Dwight Veinot

CC 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: April 5, 2013 7:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

It would solve most of mine! 

sam :-) 403-617-6280


From: dwight veinot

Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 4:06 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

I don't think everyone is suggesting he do that type of backup but I
personally valued the suggestions on back up because I am not adequately
backed up now and I did not realize that so I will address it personally
right away.

 

No dispute from here on the value of the group resource; that I assure you.
Contribute freely if you wish, I think that's the way it is setup.it's just
that money does not solve all problems

 

Dwight Veinot

CC 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street
Sent: April 5, 2013 6:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

Right -- but we don't necessarily cover his costs for the Photo Album now;
if everyone's suggesting he buy this hard drive or that Cloud backup service
to protect his (our) stuff, he'll be even more out-of-pocket than he is
already.

 

This group is an incredibly valuable resource -- definitely worth supporting
monetarily.  Let's put our money where our mouths are, and show Stu we
support him in more than just thanks.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:30 PM, dwight veinot dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca
wrote:






Fred

 

I am not exactly sure that is a good idea yet. Maybe Stu doesn't even know
yet what will be covered by his insurance and he may get some things
replaced with better than he lost.  That takes time and usually it's a PITA
dealing with insurance companies about claims.  However, what I understand
is that he won't be able to replace those precious personal belongings which
got stolen and that there will be a lot of work involved with getting back
to where he was with the website, but he seems determined to get on with
that.   Monetary contributions can't help to get those precious personal
belongings back or to relieve the lasting feelings that result from having
his private personal space violated.  I am sure it is comforting for him and
Gladys to know that members here stand ready to help as best we can.

 

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread Rich Knowles
My own experience at the office and at home suggests that, unless you need a 
daily data backup for monetary (you own a bank, lucky you) or legal (you live 
in a volatile world and get sued often) reasons, a simple weekly backup to an 
external, portable hard drive is entirely adequate for most small businesses 
and home computer setups. The frequency of the backup I generally make a 
function of how often the data is changed, the extent of the data and it's 
relative and monetary importance. 

I have become a big fan of NAS (Network-Attached Storage) boxes which quietly 
store the files and can back the data up to a USB hard drive whenever one 
decides that's a good thing to do. I'm just changing out our office's 
three-year-old 4 drive Western Digital RAID 5 box for a new 4 drive Synology 
unit. I'm also upgrading the LAN gear to gigabit speeds. All that change for 
less than 2 grand in a small architectural office with about ten work stations 
is very economical. 

We do weekly backups at a minimum and take the backup drives off site. No big 
deal. I looked into off-site net-based backup storage but we decided our way is 
more secure as we are in control of our own digital destiny. It's also 
significantly less expensive. 

The new boxes are also capable of doing a variety of useful functions such as 
site hosting and remote data access. Check out:
http://www.synology.com/us/resources/getting_started.php?lang=us

All this to say that Stu should be able to get up and running with only a 
moderate expenditure, and be protected against future major data loss  with a 
bit of new gear and some due diligence. If only it were as easy to replace the 
lost memorabilia and undo the emotional distress. Spilt milk etc.

I think there is a moderate financial middle road that will give Stu the 
support he needs to pursue his passion and also maintain the resource we have 
come to enjoy. I propose we give Stu and Gladys a bit of time to catch their 
breath and wait for him to tell us what will work best for all of us. This 
should not be a financial burden to anyone. 

I'm going to make my usual periodic contribution and wait for the white smoke. 

Pardon me for going on a bit. It's Friday evening and there's zip on TV. 

Cheers to all.

Rich Knowles
Indigo - CC LF38
Halifax - Nova Scotia


On 2013-04-05, at 15:52, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote:

 Guys -- all this is great info.  But what exactly are we doing to financially 
 support Stu, so he can afford all this stuff?
 
 Contribute now -- operators are standing by...
 
 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
 
 On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Neil Andersen neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 FYI:
  
 Some research and it appears that upon receiving a request from law 
 enforcement for your files, they will provide the information without your 
 consent. It doesn't specify about files that have been deleted, but they are 
 obligated to provide any information they have about you, which would likely 
 include deleted files. 
 
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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread dwight veinot
Rich

 

My concern is about loss due to fire or theft...I back up regularly to an
external hard drive and to memory sticks, but stupid as I am sometimes I
keep all of that back up in the same cabinet that my desktop resides in
right here in my home.  I need to store that backup outside of my home if I
want to preserve my digital photos and music collection and any other
documents which I created.  The posts here lately awakened me to that.

 

Dwight Veinot

CC 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Knowles
Sent: April 5, 2013 11:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

My own experience at the office and at home suggests that, unless you need a
daily data backup for monetary (you own a bank, lucky you) or legal (you
live in a volatile world and get sued often) reasons, a simple weekly backup
to an external, portable hard drive is entirely adequate for most small
businesses and home computer setups. The frequency of the backup I generally
make a function of how often the data is changed, the extent of the data and
it's relative and monetary importance. 





I have become a big fan of NAS (Network-Attached Storage) boxes which
quietly store the files and can back the data up to a USB hard drive
whenever one decides that's a good thing to do. I'm just changing out our
office's three-year-old 4 drive Western Digital RAID 5 box for a new 4 drive
Synology unit. I'm also upgrading the LAN gear to gigabit speeds. All that
change for less than 2 grand in a small architectural office with about ten
work stations is very economical. 





We do weekly backups at a minimum and take the backup drives off site. No
big deal. I looked into off-site net-based backup storage but we decided our
way is more secure as we are in control of our own digital destiny. It's
also significantly less expensive. 

 

The new boxes are also capable of doing a variety of useful functions such
as site hosting and remote data access. Check out:

http://www.synology.com/us/resources/getting_started.php?lang=us

 

All this to say that Stu should be able to get up and running with only a
moderate expenditure, and be protected against future major data loss  with
a bit of new gear and some due diligence. If only it were as easy to replace
the lost memorabilia and undo the emotional distress. Spilt milk etc.

 

I think there is a moderate financial middle road that will give Stu the
support he needs to pursue his passion and also maintain the resource we
have come to enjoy. I propose we give Stu and Gladys a bit of time to catch
their breath and wait for him to tell us what will work best for all of us.
This should not be a financial burden to anyone. 

 

I'm going to make my usual periodic contribution and wait for the white
smoke. 

 

Pardon me for going on a bit. It's Friday evening and there's zip on TV. 

 

Cheers to all.

 

Rich Knowles

Indigo - CC LF38

Halifax - Nova Scotia

 


On 2013-04-05, at 15:52, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote:

Guys -- all this is great info.  But what exactly are we doing to
financially support Stu, so he can afford all this stuff?

 

Contribute now -- operators are standing by...




Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Neil Andersen neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com
wrote:





FYI:

 

Some research and it appears that upon receiving a request from law
enforcement for your files, they will provide the information without your
consent. It doesn't specify about files that have been deleted, but they are
obligated to provide any information they have about you, which would likely
include deleted files. 

 

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-05 Thread Knowles Rich
Dwight,  creating a foolproof system is always a delicate balance between 
system design and training the fools. Pick your poison:)

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-06, at 1:30, dwight veinot dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca wrote:

Rich
 
My concern is about loss due to fire or theft...I back up regularly to an 
external hard drive and to memory sticks, but stupid as I am sometimes I keep 
all of that back up in the same cabinet that my desktop resides in right here 
in my home.  I need to store that backup outside of my home if I want to 
preserve my digital photos and music collection and any other documents which I 
created.  The posts here lately awakened me to that.
 
Dwight Veinot
CC 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles
Sent: April 5, 2013 11:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update
 
My own experience at the office and at home suggests that, unless you need a 
daily data backup for monetary (you own a bank, lucky you) or legal (you live 
in a volatile world and get sued often) reasons, a simple weekly backup to an 
external, portable hard drive is entirely adequate for most small businesses 
and home computer setups. The frequency of the backup I generally make a 
function of how often the data is changed, the extent of the data and it's 
relative and monetary importance. 


I have become a big fan of NAS (Network-Attached Storage) boxes which quietly 
store the files and can back the data up to a USB hard drive whenever one 
decides that's a good thing to do. I'm just changing out our office's 
three-year-old 4 drive Western Digital RAID 5 box for a new 4 drive Synology 
unit. I'm also upgrading the LAN gear to gigabit speeds. All that change for 
less than 2 grand in a small architectural office with about ten work stations 
is very economical. 


We do weekly backups at a minimum and take the backup drives off site. No big 
deal. I looked into off-site net-based backup storage but we decided our way is 
more secure as we are in control of our own digital destiny. It's also 
significantly less expensive. 
 
The new boxes are also capable of doing a variety of useful functions such as 
site hosting and remote data access. Check out:
http://www.synology.com/us/resources/getting_started.php?lang=us
 
All this to say that Stu should be able to get up and running with only a 
moderate expenditure, and be protected against future major data loss  with a 
bit of new gear and some due diligence. If only it were as easy to replace the 
lost memorabilia and undo the emotional distress. Spilt milk etc.
 
I think there is a moderate financial middle road that will give Stu the 
support he needs to pursue his passion and also maintain the resource we have 
come to enjoy. I propose we give Stu and Gladys a bit of time to catch their 
breath and wait for him to tell us what will work best for all of us. This 
should not be a financial burden to anyone. 
 
I'm going to make my usual periodic contribution and wait for the white smoke. 
 
Pardon me for going on a bit. It's Friday evening and there's zip on TV. 
 
Cheers to all.
 
Rich Knowles
Indigo - CC LF38
Halifax - Nova Scotia
 

On 2013-04-05, at 15:52, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote:

 Guys -- all this is great info.  But what exactly are we doing to financially 
 support Stu, so he can afford all this stuff?
  
 Contribute now -- operators are standing by...
 
 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
  
 On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Neil Andersen neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 FYI:
  
 Some research and it appears that upon receiving a request from law 
 enforcement for your files, they will provide the information without your 
 consent. It doesn't specify about files that have been deleted, but they are 
 obligated to provide any information they have about you, which would likely 
 include deleted files. 
  
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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-03 Thread Colin Kilgour
Sucks indeed.

Sorry to hear that, Stu

Cheers
Colin


On 4/3/13, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote:
 That sucks. May all their fingers and toes fall off. Repeatedly and
 painfully.


 On 2 April 2013 16:16, John and Maryann Read johnpr...@comcast.net wrote:

 Stu and Gladys

 ** **

 Our hearts and prayers go to you both at this most distressing time.  The
 good news is you are both safe and unharmed.  The bad news is much of
 your
 work efforts dedication and stuff are lost or compromised.  The good news
 is you have lots and lots of friends on this site to help you rebuild
 J**
 **

 ** **

 At the risk of repeating what you may already know, I offer a few
 thoughts:
 

 **1)  **Notify everyone you can about the break in.  Police of
 course, but also all your financial institutions – especially credit
 cards.  Identity theft is a real threat in this instance, so suggest you
 notify all credit bureaus so someone else can not open an account in your
 name.

 **2)  **Did you have any back up routine in play for your files?  I
 learned a long time ago the value of daily backups for my old business
 and
 certainly recommend that for everyone on this list.  If so that should be
 a
 big help in recovering data files.

 **3)  **Do you need help obtaining replacement computer hardware and
 software?  Just holler 

 ** **

 We all could very easily be in your shoes – but you have all of us to
 help
 rebuild

 ** **

 Chin up, smile on and carry forward

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 John and Maryann

 Legacy III

 1982 CC 34

 Noank, CT

 ** **

 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of
 *Stu
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:59 AM

 *To:* CC Email List
 *Subject:* Stus-List Photo Album Update

 ** **

 Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an
 unfortunate incident.

  

 Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our
 house was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing
 but so far we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop
 computer,
 flat screen monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the
 software
 related to the Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the
 decals, etc. is gone forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting
 machine.
 

  

 Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of
 computerized embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they
 broke one hoop for doing the hats and it is close to $100.

  

 They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of
 booze” I won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition
 HO electric steam engines and every one is gone and will never be
 replaced
 or seen again.

  

 We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out
 the motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to
 remove
 a security bar preventing the door from opening.

  

 Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running
 once the insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on
 the
 items.

  

 FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every
 precaution you can and even then it will not be enough.

  

 Stu ‘n’ Gladys

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-03 Thread Patrick Wesley
Stu, sorry to hear of the burglary.  We had a comparatively minor one some 
years ago but the unpleasant feeling is still with us. Rgds, Patrick Wesley 

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-03 Thread dwight veinot
Dear Stu and Gladys

I was also saddened to learn of your recent ordeal.  It seems that most of
us on this list are aware first hand of the turmoil this has caused because
we too have been down that same road at least once in our lives.  Invasion
of ones privacy and theft of ones belongings is all too common and often the
culprits are not held to account and the belongings are lost forever.  I
don't know the best advice but I know that good strong people move forward
and eventually get most of their belongings replaced and their lives on
track again and I feel confident that you will do that too.  I wish you all
the best as you put things back in order and I want to thank you very much
for all of your efforts over the years with this group of CC owners.  It is
a great group and we are very fortunate that you had the foresight and made
the effort to get the ball rolling.

Thanks

Dwight Veinot
CC 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
 



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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread JOHN D IRVIN
So sorry to hear this. Good luck rebuilding.



 From: Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com
To: CC Email List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 11:59:19 AM
Subject: Stus-List Photo Album Update
 

Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
unfortunate incident.
 
Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our 
house was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing 
but so far we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer, 
flat screen monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software 
related to the Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the 
decals, etc. is gone forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting 
machine.
 
Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they broke one hoop 
for doing the hats and it is close to $100.
 
They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of 
booze” I won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition 
HO electric steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or 
seen again.
 
We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs 
out the motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove 
a security bar preventing the door from opening.
 
Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once 
the insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the 
items.
 
FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every 
precaution you can and even then it will not be enough.
 
Stu ‘n’ Gladys
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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread Knowles Rich
So sorry to hear this Stu!  Best to you and Gladys as you make your way through 
what I know is a troubling time bout thoughts are with you!

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-02, at 12:59, Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com wrote:

Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
unfortunate incident.
 
Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our house 
was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing but so far 
we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer, flat screen 
monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software related to the 
Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the decals, etc. is gone 
forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.
 
Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they broke one hoop for 
doing the hats and it is close to $100.
 
They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of booze” I 
won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition HO electric 
steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or seen again.
 
We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out the 
motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove a 
security bar preventing the door from opening.
 
Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once the 
insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the items.
 
FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every precaution 
you can and even then it will not be enough.
 
Stu ‘n’ Gladys
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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread Josh Muckley
Sucks man.  Sorry to hear that.  Glad for the service that you so willingly
provide to all of us.  Hang in there.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
On Apr 2, 2013 12:00 PM, Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com wrote:

   Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to
 an unfortunate incident.

 Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our
 house was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing
 but so far we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer,
 flat screen monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software
 related to the Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the
 decals, etc. is gone forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.

 Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of
 computerized embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they
 broke one hoop for doing the hats and it is close to $100.

 They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of
 booze” I won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition
 HO electric steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced
 or seen again.

 We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out
 the motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove
 a security bar preventing the door from opening.

 Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running
 once the insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the
 items.

 FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every
 precaution you can and even then it will not be enough.

 Stu ‘n’ Gladys

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread Frederick G Street
Stu -- I work at a facility with lots of graphic designers and software and 
tools for design; let me know what I can do to help replace all your designs 
and patterns.  We can generate just about anything here.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Apr 2, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com wrote:

 Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
 unfortunate incident.
  
 Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our house 
 was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing but so far 
 we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer, flat screen 
 monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software related to 
 the Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the decals, etc. is 
 gone forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.
  
 Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
 embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they broke one hoop 
 for doing the hats and it is close to $100.
  
 They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of booze” 
 I won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition HO 
 electric steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or 
 seen again.
  
 We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out the 
 motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove a 
 security bar preventing the door from opening.
  
 Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once 
 the insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the items.
  
 FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every precaution 
 you can and even then it will not be enough.
  
 Stu ‘n’ Gladys
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2013-04-02 Thread sthoma20
Sorry to hear that Stu. 
I know what getting broken in feels like. 
I don't have any faith that the London police will recover any of your property 
either.

The things they are good at recovering, were never missing in the first 
place.  

From: s...@cncphotoalbum.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:59:19 -0400
Subject: Stus-List Photo Album Update





Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
unfortunate incident.
 
Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our 
house was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing 
but so far we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer, 
flat screen monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software 
related to the Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the 
decals, etc. is gone forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting 
machine.
 
Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they broke one hoop 
for doing the hats and it is close to $100.
 
They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of 
booze” I won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition 
HO electric steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or 
seen again.
 
We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs 
out the motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove 
a security bar preventing the door from opening.
 
Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once 
the insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the 
items.
 
FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every 
precaution you can and even then it will not be enough.
 
Stu ‘n’ Gladys

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread Joseph Bognar
OMG Stu and Gladys. That is terrible, If there is anything that I can do to 
help [please let me know. I have the CC Logo for embroidered clothing still 
that I can give to you again. 

 

Joe

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu
Sent: April-02-13 11:59 AM
To: CC Email List
Subject: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
unfortunate incident.

 

Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our house 
was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing but so far 
we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer, flat screen 
monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software related to the 
Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the decals, etc. is gone 
forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.

 

Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they broke one hoop for 
doing the hats and it is close to $100.

 

They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of booze” I 
won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition HO electric 
steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or seen again.

 

We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out the 
motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove a 
security bar preventing the door from opening.

 

Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once the 
insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the items.

 

FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every precaution 
you can and even then it will not be enough.

 

Stu ‘n’ Gladys

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread Danny Haughey
Sorry for your troubles stu...That totally sucks.  I know what it's like to get 
your stuff stolen...even the irreplaceable stuff.  Your story brings it all 
very present again...

I really feel for you and gladys...

Danny

From my Android phone

 Original message 
From: Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com 
Date:  
To: CC Email List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Photo Album Update 
 
Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
unfortunate incident.
 
Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our house 
was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing but so far 
we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer, flat screen 
monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software  related to the 
Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the decals, etc. is gone 
forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.
 
Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they broke one hoop for 
doing the hats and it is close to $100.
 
They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of booze” I 
won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition HO electric 
steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or seen again.
 
We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out the 
motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove a 
security bar preventing the door from opening.
 
Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once the 
insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the items.
 
FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every precaution 
you can and even then it will not be enough.
 
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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread Joel Aronson
Stu,

At least you guys are safe.  I'm sure it sucks, but most of it is
replaceable.  Wish I could help!
Joel


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com wrote:

   Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to
 an unfortunate incident.

 Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our
 house was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing
 but so far we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer,
 flat screen monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software
 related to the Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the
 decals, etc. is gone forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.

 Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of
 computerized embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they
 broke one hoop for doing the hats and it is close to $100.

 They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of
 booze” I won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition
 HO electric steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced
 or seen again.

 We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out
 the motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove
 a security bar preventing the door from opening.

 Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running
 once the insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the
 items.

 FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every
 precaution you can and even then it will not be enough.

 Stu ‘n’ Gladys

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread Bill Coleman
That sounds like quite a series of unfortunate events indeed.  If London police 
are as inept as mentioned, maybe you should put some ‘watch’ feelers up on your 
EBay Acct for your items – 

Crooks generally are not too bright, this technique brought down some upper 
level employees at a local school district hawking stolen AV  and other type 
equipment.

 

Bill Coleman

CC 39 animated_favicon1


Subject: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
unfortunate incident.

 

Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our house 
was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing but so far 
we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer, flat screen 
monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software related to the 
Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the decals, etc. is gone 
forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.

 

Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they broke one hoop for 
doing the hats and it is close to $100.

 

They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of booze” I 
won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition HO electric 
steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or seen again.

 

We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out the 
motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove a 
security bar preventing the door from opening.

 

Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once the 
insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the items.

 

FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every precaution 
you can and even then it will not be enough.

 

Stu ‘n’ Gladys

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2013-04-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe
☹
So sad –
Also look on Craigslist. Crooks ARE kind of dumb. When I was running a marine 
consignment store we had a guy steal a GPS from Boater’s World and bring it to 
us. He left his work number – AT BOATER’S WORLD – as his contact ROFLMAO.

Joe Della Barba Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

That sounds like quite a series of unfortunate events indeed.  If London police 
are as inept as mentioned, maybe you should put some ‘watch’ feelers up on your 
EBay Acct for your items –
Crooks generally are not too bright, this technique brought down some upper 
level employees at a local school district hawking stolen AV  and other type 
equipment.

Bill Coleman
CC 39 [cid:image001.gif@01CE2FBB.ED5FEE40]

Subject: Stus-List Photo Album Update

Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
unfortunate incident.

Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our house 
was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing but so far 
we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer, flat screen 
monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software related to the 
Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the decals, etc. is gone 
forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.

Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they broke one hoop for 
doing the hats and it is close to $100.

They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of booze” I 
won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition HO electric 
steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or seen again.

We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out the 
motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove a 
security bar preventing the door from opening.

Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once the 
insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the items.

FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every precaution 
you can and even then it will not be enough.

Stu ‘n’ Gladys
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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread Chuck S
Sorry to hear about the break-in Stu. 
Most stuff can be replaced, but it's a shame about the trains and personal 
stuff, and time lost dealing with theft. 

Thanks for keeping the website running. I checked and it's running fine. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
- Original Message -
From: Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com 
To: CC Email List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 11:59:19 AM 
Subject: Stus-List Photo Album Update 




Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
unfortunate incident. 

Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our house 
was broken into. We are still trying to determine what is missing but so far we 
have estimated close to $10,000 worth. My desktop computer, flat screen 
monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software related to the 
Photo Album. All of the software and patterns for the decals, etc. is gone 
forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine. 

Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
embroidery machines and just left them alone. Mind you they broke one hoop for 
doing the hats and it is close to $100. 

They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of booze” I 
won at Christmas time. I had a collection of 15 limited edition HO electric 
steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or seen again. 

We had security in place and it was by-passed. They took the bulbs out the 
motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove a 
security bar preventing the door from opening. 

Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once the 
insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the items. 

FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure. Take every precaution 
you can and even then it will not be enough. 

Stu ‘n’ Gladys 
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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread sam . c . salter
+1Stu, let us know what you need and I'll bet someone on the list has got it and will donate it. sam :-) 403-617-6280From: Richard N. BushSent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 12:35 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album UpdateStu, if there's anything you need to replace any CC paraphernalia I don't have a lot, but will gladly donate whatever I have... 





Richard



Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
502-584-7255





-Original Message-
From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com
To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update





Sorry to hear, that really sucks.

Thank you for continuing to provide a great resource for us and I hope everything works out.






Steve


CC 32


Toronto







On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Joseph Bognar jbog...@sympatico.ca wrote:







OMG Stu and Gladys. That is terrible, If there is anything that I can do to help [please let me know. I have the CC Logo for embroidered clothing still that I can give to you again. 





Joe









From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu
Sent: April-02-13 11:59 AM
To: CC Email List



Subject: Stus-List Photo Album Update
















Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an unfortunate incident.















Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our house was broken into. We are still trying to determine what is missing but so far we have estimated close to $10,000 worth. My desktop computer, flat screen monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software related to the Photo Album. All of the software and patterns for the decals, etc. is gone forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.











Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized embroidery machines and just left them alone. Mind you they broke one hoop for doing the hats and it is close to $100.











They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of booze” I won at Christmas time. I had a collection of 15 limited edition HO electric steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or seen again.











We had security in place and it was by-passed. They took the bulbs out the motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove a security bar preventing the door from opening.











Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once the insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the items.











FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure. Take every precaution you can and even then it will not be enough.











Stu ‘n’ Gladys








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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread Gary Nylander
Absolutely.
Gary
410-310-0929
  - Original Message - 
  From: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com 
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  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 6:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update


  +1Stu, let us know what you need and I'll bet someone on the list has got it 
and will donate it. 
  sam :-) 403-617-6280

From: Richard N. Bush
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 12:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update 



  Stu, if there's anything you need to replace any CC paraphernalia I don't 
have a lot, but will gladly donate whatever I have... 


  Richard

  Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
  235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
  Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
  502-584-7255



  -Original Message-
  From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com
  To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Sent: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:31 pm
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update


  Sorry to hear, that really sucks. 
  Thank you for continuing to provide a great resource for us and I hope 
everything works out.


  Steve
  CC 32
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  On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Joseph Bognar jbog...@sympatico.ca wrote:

OMG Stu and Gladys. That is terrible, If there is anything that I can do to 
help [please let me know. I have the CC Logo for embroidered clothing still 
that I can give to you again. 

Joe

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu
Sent: April-02-13 11:59 AM
To: CC Email List

Subject: Stus-List Photo Album Update

Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
unfortunate incident.

Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our 
house was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing but so 
far we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer, flat screen 
monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software related to the 
Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the decals, etc. is gone 
forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.

Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they broke one hoop for 
doing the hats and it is close to $100.

They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of 
booze” I won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition HO 
electric steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or seen 
again.

We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out the 
motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove a 
security bar preventing the door from opening.

Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once 
the insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the items.

FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every 
precaution you can and even then it will not be enough.

Stu ‘n’ Gladys

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2013-04-02 Thread John and Maryann Read
Stu and Gladys

 

Our hearts and prayers go to you both at this most distressing time.  The good 
news is you are both safe and unharmed.  The bad news is much of your work 
efforts dedication and stuff are lost or compromised.  The good news is you 
have lots and lots of friends on this site to help you rebuild  J

 

At the risk of repeating what you may already know, I offer a few thoughts:

1)  Notify everyone you can about the break in.  Police of course, but also 
all your financial institutions – especially credit cards.  Identity theft is a 
real threat in this instance, so suggest you notify all credit bureaus so 
someone else can not open an account in your name.

2)  Did you have any back up routine in play for your files?  I learned a 
long time ago the value of daily backups for my old business and certainly 
recommend that for everyone on this list.  If so that should be a big help in 
recovering data files.

3)  Do you need help obtaining replacement computer hardware and software?  
Just holler 

 

We all could very easily be in your shoes – but you have all of us to help 
rebuild

 

Chin up, smile on and carry forward

 

 

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 CC 34

Noank, CT

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:59 AM
To: CC Email List
Subject: Stus-List Photo Album Update

 

Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an 
unfortunate incident.

 

Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our house 
was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing but so far 
we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer, flat screen 
monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software related to the 
Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the decals, etc. is gone 
forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.

 

Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of computerized 
embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they broke one hoop for 
doing the hats and it is close to $100.

 

They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of booze” I 
won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition HO electric 
steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced or seen again.

 

We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out the 
motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove a 
security bar preventing the door from opening.

 

Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running once the 
insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the items.

 

FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every precaution 
you can and even then it will not be enough.

 

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Re: Stus-List Photo Album Update

2013-04-02 Thread Jim Watts
That sucks. May all their fingers and toes fall off. Repeatedly and
painfully.


On 2 April 2013 16:16, John and Maryann Read johnpr...@comcast.net wrote:

 Stu and Gladys

 ** **

 Our hearts and prayers go to you both at this most distressing time.  The
 good news is you are both safe and unharmed.  The bad news is much of your
 work efforts dedication and stuff are lost or compromised.  The good news
 is you have lots and lots of friends on this site to help you rebuild  J**
 **

 ** **

 At the risk of repeating what you may already know, I offer a few thoughts:
 

 **1)  **Notify everyone you can about the break in.  Police of
 course, but also all your financial institutions – especially credit
 cards.  Identity theft is a real threat in this instance, so suggest you
 notify all credit bureaus so someone else can not open an account in your
 name.

 **2)  **Did you have any back up routine in play for your files?  I
 learned a long time ago the value of daily backups for my old business and
 certainly recommend that for everyone on this list.  If so that should be a
 big help in recovering data files.

 **3)  **Do you need help obtaining replacement computer hardware and
 software?  Just holler 

 ** **

 We all could very easily be in your shoes – but you have all of us to help
 rebuild

 ** **

 Chin up, smile on and carry forward

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 John and Maryann

 Legacy III

 1982 CC 34

 Noank, CT

 ** **

 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stu
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:59 AM

 *To:* CC Email List
 *Subject:* Stus-List Photo Album Update

 ** **

 Updating the Photo Album is going to be pretty slow for a while due to an
 unfortunate incident.

  

 Gladys and I were away for a couple of nights and during that time, our
 house was broken into.  We are still trying to determine what is missing
 but so far we have estimated close to $10,000 worth.  My desktop computer,
 flat screen monitor, and accessories are gone – and almost all the software
 related to the Photo Album.  All of the software and patterns for the
 decals, etc. is gone forever – at least they left the vinyl cutting machine.
 

  

 Fortunately the culprits did not value Gladys’ $8,000 worth of
 computerized embroidery machines and just left them alone.  Mind you they
 broke one hoop for doing the hats and it is close to $100.

  

 They found every drop of alcohol in the house including the “bucket of
 booze” I won at Christmas time.  I had a collection of 15 limited edition
 HO electric steam engines and every one is gone and will never be replaced
 or seen again.

  

 We had security in place and it was by-passed.  They took the bulbs out
 the motion detection system, broke the door window and crawled in to remove
 a security bar preventing the door from opening.

  

 Sorry for the long blog – short part is we will be back up and running
 once the insurance companies decided on what value they are putting on the
 items.

  

 FWIW – don’t assume your house, car or boat is secure.  Take every
 precaution you can and even then it will not be enough.

  

 Stu ‘n’ Gladys

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