Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection

[Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List]

 Hi,   If the soleonid moves but motor does not turn it may well be the 
solenoid itself, assuming all high amperage connexions are clean and tight . 
When this happens and a screwdriver between the 2 + posts make it work  then it 
is the connexion between the 2 posts inside the solenoid.
beware of sparks when you perform tests ( I have an Atomic 4 )
SylvainC MkIII

On Friday, July 3, 2020, 2:22:46 PM EDT, General Gao via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi everyone,

I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually rotate. 
I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not turn.
Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter issue? 
Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at?
Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced community.
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Re: Stus-List Starter or wire connection

[Ray Kennedy via CnC-List]

Bo

As stated earlier, corrosion is our enemy. You state that you usually need
to turn the key a couple of times - not familiar with your model, mine has a
key that simply turns on the ignition circuit and a push button that
energizes the starter solenoid. Yanmar keys are very poor pieces of
engineering, if you actually have a start position on your key, as in an
automobile, you might want to look there for a worn out contact. But first
priority would be ALL of the battery wiring: battery(s) ground cable(s),
battery positive terminal, battery positive cable to starter/solenoid
terminal(s). Remove each one at a time, degrease if dirty, use fine
sandpaper like 220 or higher on the terminals to remove any corrosion, and
re-attach each one. Solenoid will have a small gauge (maybe 16 or 18 awg)
wire (maybe red) that provides the circuit from the engine control panel to
the starter; clean that as the battery cables. If still you still have
problem, look at the key/starter button - start by cleaning terminals there,
then check the switch.starter button with a continuity checker for "flaky"
operation.

RayK
S/V Genesis
C 32

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Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

I had the same problem about 5 years ago!

After 40 or so years, it’s usually corrosion on terminals or untined original 
wiring!
Check and clean the ground connection (usually on one of the transmission 
casing bolts on the back of the gearbox).
After all these years, it may be prudent to change out the 
battery/starter/ground main cables. You can buy pre-made cables with ends at 
Canadian Tire (not sure about US, but somewhere like Pep-Boys?)
These won’t be tinned either, but the first set lasted 40 years 路‍♂️

Sam Salter
C 26 Liquorice 
Ghost Lake  Alberta 


On Jul 3, 2020, at 12:22 PM, General Gao via CnC-List  
wrote:


Hi everyone,

I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually rotate. 
I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not turn.

Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter issue? 
Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at?

Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced community.

thank you,

Bo
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Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection

[T Sutton via CnC-List]

I agree, clean the terminals first, it’s worked for me on cars a couple times.  
A lot easier than replacing starter motors if it works.

Tom S

Usually corrosion is the culprit. Clean the terminals on the starter wires. 



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wrote:

Hi everyone,


I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually 
rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not turn.

Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter 
issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at?

Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced 
community.

thank you,

Bo
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Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 Check the battery terminals as well for corrosion and the condition of the 
battery.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL


On Friday, July 3, 2020, 01:50:35 PM CDT, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Is it a Yanmar?  If so, try running a temporary dedicated wire from the "I" 
connection on the ignition switch or the positive side of the starter button to 
the solenoid.  If it starts strongly, make the wire permanent bypassing the 
harness near the engine.
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Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection

[General Gao via CnC-List]

thanks for the kind suggestions.

the engine is a universal 3 cylinder diesel. I will see if I can at least
take a look at the wires.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:50 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Is it a Yanmar?  If so, try running a temporary dedicated wire from the
> "I" connection on the ignition switch or the positive side of the starter
> button to the solenoid.  If it starts strongly, make the wire permanent
> bypassing the harness near the engine.
>
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 1:22 PM General Gao via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually
>> rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not
>> turn.
>>
>> Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter
>> issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at?
>>
>> Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced
>> community.
>>
>> thank you,
>>
>> Bo
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Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Is it a Yanmar?  If so, try running a temporary dedicated wire from the "I"
connection on the ignition switch or the positive side of the starter
button to the solenoid.  If it starts strongly, make the wire permanent
bypassing the harness near the engine.


-- 
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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 1:22 PM General Gao via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually
> rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not
> turn.
>
> Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter
> issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at?
>
> Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced
> community.
>
> thank you,
>
> Bo
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Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection

[Chris Riedinger via CnC-List]

Hitting electric motors often results in broken magnets inside the motor
and then more problems.

I would pull the starter and have it bench tested. Likely you will find
some crunchy/corroded wiring in the process.
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Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Usually corrosion is the culprit. Clean the terminals on the starter wires.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:31 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Get a second person to help.  While they are attempting to start, you can
> be down below giving the starter a love tap with a heavy implement.  If it
> starts then you probably need to rebuild the starter.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 14:22 General Gao via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually
>> rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not
>> turn.
>>
>> Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter
>> issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at?
>>
>> Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced
>> community.
>>
>> thank you,
>>
>> Bo
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Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Get a second person to help.  While they are attempting to start, you can
be down below giving the starter a love tap with a heavy implement.  If it
starts then you probably need to rebuild the starter.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 14:22 General Gao via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually
> rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not
> turn.
>
> Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter
> issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at?
>
> Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced
> community.
>
> thank you,
>
> Bo
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Stus-List starter or wire connection

[General Gao via CnC-List]

Hi everyone,

I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually
rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not
turn.

Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter
issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at?

Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced
community.

thank you,

Bo
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Stus-List Starter switch in engine compartment

[James Nichols via CnC-List]

Are your there starter switches momentary switches that are all attached to the 
same relay for starting and stopping?
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Re: Stus-List starter switch in engine compartment

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Just pay extra attention to where your fingers are resting before using it!

Bill Bina

On 4/12/2016 1:57 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:


I have one. I have a fuse in line with it that is not normally kept in 
so that it does not get activated accidently.


It is very handy when you are working on the engine.

Joe

Coquina




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Re: Stus-List starter switch in engine compartment

[Stu via CnC-List]

No reason why it won’t work.  In our motor home, we have 3 start/run/stop 
switches for the generator.  1 on the dash, 1 on the kitchen range hood and 1 
on the generator.  No problems starting from one position and stopping from 
another.

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Re: Stus-List starter switch in engine compartment

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have one. I have a fuse in line with it that is not normally kept in so that 
it does not get activated accidently.
It is very handy when you are working on the engine.
Joe
Coquina


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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 13:36
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Subject: Stus-List starter switch in engine compartment

Sometimes it is desirable to be able to have a starter switch inside when 
working on my motor.

How have people on this list accomplished this?  Is it a temporary or permanent 
solution?

Mike

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Re: Stus-List starter switch in engine compartment

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

If the terminals on your starter solenoid are easily accessible a hand held
switch like this with a couple of alligator clips and a few feet of wire
would work well.

http://www.vetco.net/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=10984=t1h0qv9lp0843n8nhkltoav8j1

http://www.vetco.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=10984

Ken H.

On 12 April 2016 at 14:35, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Sometimes it is desirable to be able to have a starter switch inside when
> working on my motor.
>
>
>
> How have people on this list accomplished this?  Is it a temporary or
> permanent solution?
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Sometimes it is desirable to be able to have a starter switch inside when 
working on my motor.

How have people on this list accomplished this?  Is it a temporary or permanent 
solution?

Mike

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Re: Stus-List Starter

[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

Glad to hear it Francois. I ordered a switch and will hopefully have it by next 
week. In the meantime, this weekend I will take the advice of the others and 
will clean all connectors, check engine ground, and solenoid this weekend.

Cheers,
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Stus-List Starter

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

 It's fixed.

 It was either the press-fit connector ( it was pretty corroded / fell apart 
 when I disconnected it) , the push button switch, or both.  I installed the 
 new switch, cleaned all surrounding connections, substituted the connector 
 with a proper shrink wrap crimp connector, and all is well. Starts with a 
 light press every time. 

Weather or not the switch needed to be replaced that was 30 bucks well spent / 
now all is fresh and should stay trouble free for a good long while. 

Plus we came in 2nd in the race.  A pretty good evening altogether.

Francois Rivard
1990 34+ Take Five 
Lake Lanier, Ga




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[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my 
Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts 
right up. 

What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at 
the push button switch or at the solenoid? 

Thanks in advance,

Mike
Atacama, 33 mkii
Toronto 
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Re: Stus-List Starter

[jhnelson via CnC-List]

Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then could be 
fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground at the 
transmission to enginebolt.  Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to 
check.


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Date: 07-28-2015  11:51  (GMT-04:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net 
Subject: Stus-List Starter 

I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my 
Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts 
right up. 

What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at 
the push button switch or at the solenoid? 

Thanks in advance,

Mike
Atacama, 33 mkii
Toronto 
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Re: Stus-List Starter

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Mike,

I had this issue on the Enterprise-A (1978 CC 34) once. It was the solenoid. 

All the best,

Edd

Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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On Jul 28, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
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I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my 
Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts 
right up. 

What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at 
the push button switch or at the solenoid? 

Thanks in advance,

Mike
Atacama, 33 mkii
Toronto 
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[Edward Levert via CnC-List]

Start first at the switch. Test for power across the terminals with the
button pushed. If no voltage is seen on the 1st push, it is likely the
contacts within the switch are dirty. You can sometimes temporarily clean
the contacts by multiple pushes of the starter button with the ignition key
off. If you have voltage across the button, then check for voltage between
the button and the solenoid. Clean the terminals on the wires, button, and
solenoid. That you can start on the 2nd button push suggest that the
solenoid and fuses are OK.

Ed
CC 34 Briar Patch
New Orleans

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, jhnelson via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then
 could be fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground
 at the transmission to engine
 bolt.  Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check.



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 Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00)
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 Subject: Stus-List Starter

 I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for
 my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine
 starts right up.

 What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start
 up at the push button switch or at the solenoid?

 Thanks in advance,

 Mike
 Atacama, 33 mkii
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Re: Stus-List Starter

[Russ Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Mike,

This happens to me a few times each year. I will 
try to start with the switch up to 3 times before 
I go looking. Most times it starts on the second 
or third attempt. FTC (failure to crank) is most 
often resolved by wiggling the connections on the 
fuse at the back of the head. A couple of times 
the connections at the back of the panel enjoyed caressing.


Someday I will deal with the issue but today is 
not the day. Tomorrow doesn't look so good 
either. :) The weather is truly grand on the West Coast these past months.


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
Ex A4, current is Yanmar 2QM20, next is 
a Universal 25 (on a dolly in the shed)



At 07:51 AM 28/07/2015, you wrote:
I've noticed a few times this season that when i 
push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F 
nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up.


What is the most efficient way of debugging this 
problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid?


Thanks in advance,

Mike
Atacama, 33 mkii
Toronto
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Stus-List Starter

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

Hi Mike, 

My guess is bad contacts on the switch. I am starting there as it is a 
cheap and easy fix. Since it's a 25 year old switch that makes sense to 
replace anyway.  I have noticed that the switch feels 'mushy and it's 
been doing the miss intermittently over the past 2-3 times I've used the 
boat.I am replacing mine this evening or tomorrow.

It's Yanmar part # 124070-91300

I ordered it from Marine Outfitters of Canada   
http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/1-888-732-8883 

I Had to order it from Canada as Yanmar has territories in the US and 
none of the authorized online guys seem to ship to Georgia. He has good 
prices and a good selection too.  He's in Kingston.

I hope that does the trick. 

-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ Take Five
Lake Lanier


 Subject: Stus-List Starter

 I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button 
for
 my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the 
engine
 starts right up.

 What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start
 up at the push button switch or at the solenoid?

 Thanks in advance,

 Mike
 Atacama, 33 mkii
 Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Starter

[Nauset Beach via CnC-List]

Had the same symptoms last year.  Tested the voltage across the start button 
terminals on the back of the panel and found 12+ volts so concluded that was 
not the issue, but could not find the cause.  The mechanic tested and found the 
same voltage, but insufficient current.  There were partial breaks in some of 
the wires at / inside the wire harness that at times would connect and other 
times not, until it quit completely.  He cut the harness out and using butt 
connectors directly wired the panel.  Worked every time since.   

 

Moral of the story; check voltage and current.  And any wiring fault can lead 
to what appears to be a faulty start button.

 

Brian

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edward 
Levert via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:18 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edward Levert weeselev...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Starter

 

Start first at the switch. Test for power across the terminals with the button 
pushed. If no voltage is seen on the 1st push, it is likely the contacts within 
the switch are dirty. You can sometimes temporarily clean the contacts by 
multiple pushes of the starter button with the ignition key off. If you have 
voltage across the button, then check for voltage between the button and the 
solenoid. Clean the terminals on the wires, button, and solenoid. That you can 
start on the 2nd button push suggest that the solenoid and fuses are OK.

 

Ed

CC 34 Briar Patch

New Orleans

 

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, jhnelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:

Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then could be 
fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground at the 
transmission to engine

bolt.  Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check.

 

 

 

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Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net mailto:mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net  
Subject: Stus-List Starter 

I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my 
Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts 
right up. 

What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at 
the push button switch or at the solenoid? 

Thanks in advance,

Mike
Atacama, 33 mkii
Toronto 
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Re: Stus-List Starter

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I've had owners call me a couple times on this issue with Yanmars.  Most
likely problems have been either the start button switch or the connector
in the wiring harness.

Test the start button by jumping across the back.  If starter engages
strongly, push the button,  If starter is weak or doesn't engage, then
contacts on inside of start button are carboned up.

As for the connector, remove any tape, pull apart, spread TefGel in both
sides, connect and pull apart several times.  Try it.  If it works, re-tape
it.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Nauset Beach via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Had the same symptoms last year.  Tested the voltage across the start
 button terminals on the back of the panel and found 12+ volts so concluded
 that was not the issue, but could not find the cause.  The mechanic tested
 and found the same voltage, but insufficient current.  There were partial
 breaks in some of the wires at / inside the wire harness that at times
 would connect and other times not, until it quit completely.  He cut the
 harness out and using butt connectors directly wired the panel.  Worked
 every time since.



 Moral of the story; check voltage and current.  And any wiring fault can
 lead to what appears to be a faulty start button.



 Brian



 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edward
 Levert via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:18 AM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Cc:* Edward Levert weeselev...@gmail.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Starter



 Start first at the switch. Test for power across the terminals with the
 button pushed. If no voltage is seen on the 1st push, it is likely the
 contacts within the switch are dirty. You can sometimes temporarily clean
 the contacts by multiple pushes of the starter button with the ignition key
 off. If you have voltage across the button, then check for voltage between
 the button and the solenoid. Clean the terminals on the wires, button, and
 solenoid. That you can start on the 2nd button push suggest that the
 solenoid and fuses are OK.



 Ed

 CC 34 Briar Patch

 New Orleans



 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, jhnelson via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then
 could be fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground
 at the transmission to engine

 bolt.  Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check.







 Sent from my Samsung device



  Original message 
 From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00)
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net
 Subject: Stus-List Starter

 I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for
 my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine
 starts right up.

 What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start
 up at the push button switch or at the solenoid?

 Thanks in advance,

 Mike
 Atacama, 33 mkii
 Toronto
 Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
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Re: Stus-List Starter

[Wally Bryant via CnC-List]

Everything everyone else said is good.

My 2 cents: sometimes a tiny break in a wire or contact will prevent 
current from flowing, but after a few seconds of power the wire heats up 
from the resistance and expands enough to close the circuit.  Wire does 
get old.


Wal

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