Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
Russ Someone hit and damaged my daughters car while it was parked. They left with no note and no contact information. She was pissed because this will have to be her own cost or at the very least her own insurance claim. When boating if some other boat hits me through a fault deemed theirs and not mine I would far rather their premiums take the hit than mine since it was their own issue or even negligence that caused the problem. You are not supposed to drive if uninsured. Yous should never be on a boat without insurance either. My 0.02 Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ Melody Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com mailto:CADdEvn5eBVA9ow1XPrcExSZmf91JV+jz-ThGsuxVrzgSMbef7w@mail.gmail.c om Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
True and I totally agree with you Mike but I am still amazed that sail boat insurance covers while racing.seems to me more collisions happen on the race course between racing boats than what ever happen between cruisers.could be it's only a matter of time before premiums for those who race their boats go up _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike Sent: April 7, 2014 9:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Russ Someone hit and damaged my daughters car while it was parked. They left with no note and no contact information. She was pissed because this will have to be her own cost or at the very least her own insurance claim. When boating if some other boat hits me through a fault deemed theirs and not mine I would far rather their premiums take the hit than mine since it was their own issue or even negligence that caused the problem. You are not supposed to drive if uninsured. Yous should never be on a boat without insurance either. My 0.02 Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ Melody Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: mailto:caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
I always found it quite interesting that insured boats were covered by their policies while racing. From my experience racing seemed a higher risk activity for collisions that at least might rate a higher premium for special coverage for racing compared to the premiums for boats that did not race, but I don't think that is the case yet. _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of johnr...@aol.com Sent: April 4, 2014 11:40 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
Our insurance covers us for regular racing with standard deductibles, but has far higher deductibles for sail and rig damage in named races like Southern Straits or Swiftsure. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 5 April 2014 03:19, dwight dwight...@gmail.com wrote: I always found it quite interesting that insured boats were covered by their policies while racing. From my experience racing seemed a higher risk activity for collisions that at least might rate a higher premium for special coverage for racing compared to the premiums for boats that did not race, but I don't think that is the case yet. -- *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of * johnr...@aol.com *Sent:* April 4, 2014 11:40 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis C. *Sent:* April-04-14 17:53 *To:* CnClist *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
But you drive every day with uninsured motorists... At usually dangerous speeds Ron C. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:39 PM, johnr...@aol.com wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu mailto:rtaill...@eastlink.cartaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown mailto:m...@tkg.cam...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.comstevanpla...@gmail.com To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: mailto:caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.comcaddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.comhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comwww.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.comhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.comhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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If you are a racer, you should have the integrity to get the proper insurance. John McLaughlin CC29MKII Falcon -Original Message- From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance toprotect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'mcovered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In thecase of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurancecompany wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't neednor am I entitled to. Cheers,Russ Sweet35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race againstuninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I'venever been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, avalid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionallyhave to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverageis adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieurtaill...@eastlink.cawrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 millionliability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be onfile in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've neverhad to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brownm...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell.Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier,even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy ofwelcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS onTuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYCalso starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have twoAround the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You willneed a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loanyou. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsastevanpla...@gmail.com To:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some funraces the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races thisyear. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date:04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Hi John, That's my point. I have the proper insurance. I am bemused why the pointy heads insist that I protect my asset...because it's in the Sailing Instructions?!! and that makes it right? It is a simple fact that you should buy insurance to protect yourself. Maybe it's the herd instinct, I have it, so should everybody. I buy insurance to protect my net worth, not yours! Why is this so difficult for people to understand? In the old days an insurance guy would distract you with terms fancy terms and threaten that you could not collect on a judgement if the other guy wasn't insured. But under-insured protection, it is standard in my policy, has thrown out that argument a long time ago. But the mystery remains.. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:31 PM 05/04/2014, you wrote: If you are a racer, you should have the integrity to get the proper insurance. John McLaughlin CC29MKII Falcon -Original Message- From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.comcapt...@gmail.com To: CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu mailto:rtaill...@eastlink.cartaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown mailto:m...@tkg.cam...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.comstevanpla...@gmail.com To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: mailto:caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.comhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comwww.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14
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It's quite simple, the insurance companies want to make it easy. If the guy who just drove his bow through your wet locker has no insurance, they will have to go to great extremes to make it good. If he has insurance, then it's no problem, it's an internal paper chase. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 5 April 2014 20:49, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Hi John, That's my point. I have the proper insurance. I am bemused why the pointy heads insist that I protect my asset...because it's in the Sailing Instructions?!! and that makes it right? It is a simple fact that you should buy insurance to protect yourself. Maybe it's the herd instinct, I have it, so should everybody. I buy insurance to protect my net worth, not yours! Why is this so difficult for people to understand? In the old days an insurance guy would distract you with terms fancy terms and threaten that you could not collect on a judgement if the other guy wasn't insured. But under-insured protection, it is standard in my policy, has thrown out that argument a long time ago. But the mystery remains.. Cheers, Russ *Sweet *35 mk-1 At 08:31 PM 05/04/2014, you wrote: If you are a racer, you should have the integrity to get the proper insurance. John McLaughlin CC29MKII Falcon -Original Message- From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ *Sweet *35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.comcnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area.Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc
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I may be stunned, what with living in Eastern Canada and all, but I don't understand the difficulty with the insurance question. My insurance covers me for both self inflicted silliness like repairs resulting from running aground, and also provides me with some monetary protection in the event I am held accountable for physical damage to other persons or their property, whether I am racing, cruising or at anchor. All in all, a very sensible thing to have in my opinion. Rich On Apr 6, 2014, at 0:49, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Hi John, That's my point. I have the proper insurance. I am bemused why the pointy heads insist that I protect my asset...because it's in the Sailing Instructions?!! and that makes it right? It is a simple fact that you should buy insurance to protect yourself. Maybe it's the herd instinct, I have it, so should everybody. I buy insurance to protect my net worth, not yours! Why is this so difficult for people to understand? In the old days an insurance guy would distract you with terms fancy terms and threaten that you could not collect on a judgement if the other guy wasn't insured. But under-insured protection, it is standard in my policy, has thrown out that argument a long time ago. But the mystery remains.. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:31 PM 05/04/2014, you wrote: If you are a racer, you should have the integrity to get the proper insurance. John McLaughlin CC29MKII Falcon -Original Message- From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Hi John, The prevalent attitude that forces other people to buy insurance to protect themselves really confuses me. I have insurance and it includes under-insured protection, so I'm covered. It doesn't matter if the other guy won't carry insurance. In the case of an incident my policy will cover off my losses. If the insurance company wants to recover then they go after the other guy, I don't need nor am I entitled to. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:39 PM 04/04/2014, you wrote: I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I
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Pretty standard in Ontario in order to keep a boat at a club/marina as well as register to race. Don On Apr 4, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Our Shields fleet requires liability insurance. mind you, there have been more than a few collisions. Something to do with 30+ boats on the line every Wednesday night and they don't stop, accelerate, or turn very well. Not to mention that some of the crews get into the adult bevies on the way out to the line. http://www.shieldsfleet9.org/ Andy CC 40 Peregrine 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis C. *Sent:* April-04-14 17:53 *To:* CnClist *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance?
I certainly would not race against uninsured boats. John McLaughlin CC29-2 Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Guess I'm in a weird area. Louisiana is fairly litigious but I've never been asked for insurance for dockage or racing. For racing, a valid PHRF certificate is all I've been asked for. We occasionally have to sign a liability waiver for some races. I have been asked for it for dockage in Florida. I think the race organizers around here think that the USSailing coverage is adequate. Dennis C. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca wrote: Dennis, Pretty much all the clubs in the area require at least $1 million liability insurance. My club requires a current copy of the insurance certificate to be on file in the office to keep a boat here. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April-04-14 17:53 To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - Now racing insurance? Mike, $2 million insurance? Hmmm. Interesting policy. How many other racing organizers require insurance? I've never had to show in any race in my area. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote: Well, $100 was pretty cheap. I have a twist lock that I may sell. Since getting the larger line control I have not used it much. As mentioned earlier, even at 17' it is small for a #1. If you would like to race National Yacht Club has a policy of welcoming racers from nearby clubs to join us for week night racing. You could race NFS on Tuesdays, FS on Wednesday, and there is a special beginners NFS on Thursdays. NYC also starts the race for the Alexandra Yacht Club on Thursdays. We have two Around the Island weekend races a year with an open invitation. You will need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindling but yeah, I plan to participate in the weekly races this year. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7302 - Release Date: 04/04/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
